Drummer reacts to "Mrs. Robinson" / "A Hazy Shade of Winter" by Simon & Garfunkel
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Well shoot... I thought I was gonna get through 2 Simon & Garfunkel songs without totally rethinking my existence. I was in the clear... and then the second half of "A Hazy Shade of Winter" hits and yeah... damn.... Paul Simon really was a genius...
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Amazing that Paul Simon was only 24 or 25 years old when he wrote Hazy Shade of Winter. How does a man that young even begin to understand the passing of the springtime and summer of life, finding oneself in the late autumn, and facing the shade of winter? That is the genius of Paul Simon, the poet. His manifold skills as a musician are in a class that defies description.
We all thought we were going to die at 30. Forgive me, but your depth of feeling makes you a beautiful person even though you don't see it yet. Just wait, you will 💕
I turned 65 this year. You are still plenty young enough to pursue your dreams.
You're 28 ~ I'm 68 ~ I Hear You. Please remind yourself ~ when you feel regret ~ you have today and probably many years ahead of you to do what matters most to you. One day at a time ~ is all any of us has. Learn from the past to recreate your future. Much Love to you ~
This song won Simon and Garfunkle their first Grammy. It was used in the film "The Graduate", but wasn't eligible for an Oscar nomination because it wasn't written exclusively for the film as required.
I was there at 28 when I lost my first wife, and at 40 when my son died. I became a meth addict and then I made the decision you made. To live. Keep going. You'll find more and live so much more. You may be surprised how happy you are at 65 and how quickly it seems to come. Memories are always awesome, but try to remember there are new ones to make everyday. You are an awesome young man.
You are so right
Art is a great singer but Paul is a genius
Art is a great singer and arranger and Paul is a great writer and guitarist.
Yep
“Hazy Shade of Winter” was covered by the Bangles back in the 80s.
Ugh.
Ha! That’s right. I knew Lee was right about a cover, but I couldn’t think of it.
And it sucked.
I think its a great cover.
@@sheilaholmes8455 seriously !!!!!! how can you say that
At the ripe old age of 60, I’ve learned to like where I am. The “regrets” of the past shaped who I am today. If they hadn’t happened, I wouldn’t be able to be the person I am now. The same will apply to you.
"How terribly strange to be seventy". - Old Friends
You seem intelligent, thoughtful and have a good heart. Pretty good taste too! You'll be ok at 60. I wish you well. 🙏
When Joe DiMaggio heard his name in this song, he couldn’t grasp why they were saying he was gone. He said, I’m right here. I’m alive.
He didn’t see a deeper meaning. I understood it to mean that the era in which he was popular was gone, never to return. An innocent age.
That's exactly what it meant!
Of course, every generation has nostalgia for their past. As a kid, the world is so much simpler. We hang on to that, some more than others.
I once read something like you say that he represented a golden age. And also, he married Marilyn Monroe.. the golden American Dream.
An interesting thought you have there. I remember watching a PBS series from the mid-80s called MAKING SENSE OF THE SIXTIES. It was a 6 part series, quite good, in fact. In any case, the first episode was called "THE SEEDS OF THE SIXTIES," and detailed this "innocent age" you seem to be referencing. The best quote regarding this, I thought, from the show, was when a sociologist reminded us that even OZZIE AND HARRIET (as depicted on their TV show) bore little resemblance to OZZIE AND HARRIET (the actual family that produced the show).
I, personally, am now 62 years old, so I remember The Beatles on the radio as a child, but I would NEVER call the 1960s an innocent age, even though I was just a babe-in-the-woods then. (But then again, maybe I'm just wrong about all this - you see, decades of drug abuse... has... oh, whatever... nevermind... ;)
Now you need to watch the movie The Graduate, for which this song was written. An absolute classic movie, and Dustin Hoffman's first leading role. Mrs. Robinson is one of the main characters. The rest of the soundtrack is older S&G songs.
Well, it was in a kind of way, but none of the songs chosen have any direct references to the film's plot or characters other than the song title 'Mrs Robinson', which was an after thought, and was first called 'Mrs Roosevelt'.
See the movie,
The Graduate. That will explain Mrs. Robinson.
Dustin Hoffman starred in the movie when he was a young man. It’s a good movie.
Everyone does things they regret. No one has a totally blameless life Lee. Looking forward is always better than looking back.
Being an island, you may want to check out Simon and Garfunkel's "I Am A Rock."
You'll know what I mean when you hear it.
The Graduate is one of THE best movies of all time. Simon and Garfunkle music throughout the movie. It's what put Dustin Hoffman on the road to a successful career. ❤😊
DUDE, I’m 69! Never thought I’d live this long. lol. You are still so young. Wish I could go back sometimes.
Same. How terribly strange it is to be (almost) 70.
@@procopiusaugustus6231 Isn’t it though? I wish I could remember parts a little better. Lol.
I'll turn 69 next week. Unbelievable! 😅
@@KimSimfulMusic helps me remember a lot.
@@SpuzzyLargo Music and PHOTOS. They even refer to this "memory" thing on the album.
Make no mistake, you are still in the springtime of your life...don't miss it! How much I would like to do 60 again, but now at 72 I've never been happier, never had more hope for what I will still accomplish. It can get better every decade, if you pay attention and live consciously;)
Look at it this way, you attended the school of Hard Knocks and graduated.. at a young enough age that your maturity can take advantage of what you've experienced, what you've learned. Don't look back, don't bemoan what was. You know stuff now, so appreciate that.
Yes, forgive the past and make the best choices you can each now moment.
All you have is NOW brother. Things always change. Live now so you don't have regrets. Don't be hindered by the past, and make your future now.
Your kids would love at the zoo Lee. Thank you for getting back to The legendary Simon & Garfunkel!
I think they're probably a bit too young to be "loving" at the zoo...
@kathybwell - I agree! A song written in such a brilliant way that it can be appreciated by both young and old......and sometimes, even certain "adults" don't get it!
Hey Lee! Quick story. My high school sweetheart and I used to listen to this album together throughout our senior year in high school. There's a song on the Bookends album called "Old Friends." One of the lines in it is, "How terribly strange to be 70." On my birthday in 2022, (when we were both 70) we exchanged that song with each other. Of course I'm in Iowa, and she's in Australia. But we've kept in touch all these years. Please check it out.
When I was 33, I was divorced, heartbroken and destitute. AS it turned out, 60 years of age was not so bad when I got there later. Take care of yourself, do the right thing, and be reasonable.
No man is an island -he's a peninsula! --Jefferson Airplane
No use in living in the past, there's no future in it.
"Koo Koo ka Choo" - said Paul Simon in 1968. "Goo Goo ga Joob " - said John Lennon in 1967. Who wrote it in their notebook first?
@heartoftherose: "Koo Koo ka Choo" is what Paul Simon - in 1968 - thought was actually in fact what John Lennon - in 1967 - FIRST "said" on "I AM THE WALRUS".
@meyerhave Wow, I have really wondered about that, it's great to hear the real story - thanks!
You can't change the past, you can't erase your mistakes - but you can learn from them. The time you're going through right now might be challenging and frustrating, but you'll get through this time and be better on the other side of it more solid and together than ever. You're a smart, sensitive guy with a lot of self-awareness. Not only that, you've got great taste in music. Keep on rollin'.
I just turned 71; Simon and Garfunkel were a staple in my entire home. My parents loved them and I would stare at the album covers throughout the entire play. Now on to you: you are one of the best “reactors” out there! Deep, honest, emotional and I can relate to your life’s journey. And please know that you actually are an inspiration to others. You are musically gifted, so you bring essential experience and nuance to your reactions. You are “humanly” gifted, in that you f’d up at a young and vulnerable age and are now doing your best to put your (and your family’s) life in order.
I watch very little on RUclips but will not miss any of your reactions because you are musically well-informed and you are courageous. Thank you.
This was the 1st rock song to win record of the year at the 1969 Grammys. Also won for best vocals duo or group.
More classics! There was a female band in the 80's called the Bangles who did a good cover of A Hazy Shade of Winter
Their cover was excellent, though they had to delete the line about “vodka & lime.” I think they put it back in later performances.
"A Hazy Shade of Winter" this song never gets the attention it deserves! Love it, Still!
Some of Simon's solo work, after they split up, is also great. "Mother and son Reunion," others. Joe DiMaggio had a special place in American culture, when baseball was king
Mother and child, not son.
I am a 72 year old woman, and I have been there, regret so much, But today I would not change a thing, it made me who I am today. Learning from the past, now I cherish my 2 daughters, granddaughter, 3 grandsons ( one I just lost to fentanyl 😭 ) 2 great granddaughters, there is much more than my past, my future! You have a future also, embrace it, the past is just water under a bridge.
So sorry for your loss. 😢💙
If you’ve taken a lifetime to come up with an idea … Paul Simon can express it in three lines … he’s that good ;)
Oh yes, and he can really play :)
“ Someone told me it’s all happening at the zoo…”
@debbiephillips4163 I'm sceptical, but then I can't help it, I am a orangutan after all.
Gotcha!!
We were raised on these songs. I was 11 or so and the teachers in Catholic chatachism school used S&G songs to instruct us in morals, ethics and religion. Songs like Richard Cory, I Am a Rock, Old Friends/Bookends and Most Peculiar Man, among others.
S&G were hired to write the soundtrack for The Graduate. They went to meet Mike Nichols the director but they didn’t have a finished song, just the chords, so they started the song with the “deet-dee-dee’s” in the beginning of Mrs. Robinson.
We never know what we don’t know, so I thought I was finished at 30. MY mother used to say, “Life begins at 40.” and she was right. Now at 66 I AM living my best life in Paris with joyful things to do, writing, playing music, giving tours of Paris, etc. Friends are starting to pass on, but they are here with me, and I acknowledge their spirits, their presence in my life still.
Live each day as if it were your last, and you’ll never have regrets!!
My friend, do not despair! I don't mean to minimize your experience of life, but I do know there is light at the end of the tunnel. Suffering is the inevitable teacher that carves an ever deepening capacity to find joy and meaning in life as we learn to ride the changing tides of our existence. Hopefully, we learn these life lessons without causing too much harm to ourselves. Many of us get seriously caught in the undertow of depression and addiction. But there is always hope if one follows one's urging to seek support, community, love.....My two cents from a 72 year old, still being taught lessons in living.
You know something man. You've got to make a point of watching the movie The Graduate. For one thing, it's got all the songs in that 1 movie that you've already reacted to. Second off. You'll really see the context of all the songs because it was really done. Well, mixing the movie and the songs together, which is a major compliment to Paul because he was able to formulate these songs with this script in mind. And Scarborough Fair was perfect at the section of the movie that it was played. And interestingly enough Mrs. Robinson, which was my second favorite song in the movie, was the only song that wasn't written for the movie because it was one that Paul had already penned for an album and they made minor changes in the wording to fit the movie. For instance, the phrase Mrs. Robinson wasn't in his original draft. He did it because that was her name in the movie. And another piece of trivia the part where he refers to Joe Demaggio was only put in there for the simple reason that it was the only name of the baseball player that would fit in there perfectly. He want.
Ed to use Mickey Mattel, who was his hero, but there was no way that name was going to fit. And I don't know when you just played it if you caught right. After her mentioning Joe demajio his
Where where he called Joe DiMaggio, jolton Joe, which was his nickname back in the 1940 some 50s.
Good job bro. Keep on keeping on. Now I want to watch the movie again. Ha
We love you too, Lee!!
I totally agree, the RUclips channels that are just “that was a good song” are boring. I really appreciate your input from a musician’s point of view. I especially appreciate how you connect to the songs and share your vulnerability without shame. Music is therapy. It connects us through the most primal parts of our humanity. Thanks for sharing yourself and this music.
Yeah, Paul had (has) quite the poetic vision. So many great songs. Glad you're appreciating them.
The Bangles did an awesome cover of Hazy Shade. They kept the essense with an 80s twist.
They are big fans of the band. I really discovered this great song by their awesome rocking version, in that movie "Less Than Zero". What an opener.
Don't know if it'll make you feel any better about the whole age thing, Lee, but I'm getting ready to turn 70 in a couple of weeks and I bought this album the week it came out when I was 13 going on 14. At that point in time, a piece of music that was as old as these two songs are today would have come out just before the Titanic sank. This won't surprise you, but I was not listening to a lot of 1912 tunes in '68.😂 Speaks to how well a lot of this music you're discovering has held up in comparison. Still loving the channel even if I'm not commenting as often - keep up the good work, enjoy the journey and hang in there!
Mrs. Robinson was a huge #1 record in 1968. ❤
Mrs. R was the theme song to the academy award winning movie "the graduate" starring a young Dustin hoffman.
It’s from “The Graduate “a movie starring a very young Dustin Hoffman.
Thanks for opening up and sharing some of your story. At 61 years old, I've had some dark times as well, doing regrettable things that hurt the ones I love. But at my lowest point I finally committed my life to God, trusting that He would help lead me down a better path, and boy has He. He's brought healing, inner peace, security, wisdom and purpose to my life. It's still not easy, but He continues to lead me to a much better life, and uses me to help others. Most so called Christians and churches have unfortunately strayed from God's ways, calling Him Lord but never understanding the power of actually treating Him as Lord. Like Jesus said, only those that lose their life will find it. Psalm 139
if it's any comfort, Hazy Shade of Winter always makes me feel the same. And I am nearly 60. It's chills and tears in equal measure.
There is nothing more expensive than regret.
John Lennon said it best in his song Beautiful Boy... "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans!" Here I am, at 64, knowing now how those times, regrets, losses, shaped the person I am today. Keep keeping on, Lee!! You are doing a wonderful thing here...
No need for regrets. Everyone is bungling their way through as best they can. The thing is to try to learn from it, appreciate the fact that you're trying your best, and focus on the good and what you want to experience in your life. The make moves in that direction.
Ahh your so young -I’m 71 now but don’t feel it-I’ve always felt that every ten years was a different life-I had a good life especially growing up when I did-I got married -had kids and then my husband died suddenly when we were 40-you can plan all you want but life is what happens when you’re making other plans -hang in there-you just never know what life has in store
You should also see "The Graduate" to appreciate just how masterfully Paul Simon adapted his developing song "Mrs. Robinson" (a work in progress at the time of filming) to fit the movie. 😊
Brilliant tunes. Mrs Robinson covered by The Lemonheads.
"Mrs. Robinson" only makes sense if you have seen the movie "The Graduate".
There's a great backstory on how director Mike Nichols and Simon & Garfunkel created the soundtrack for "The Graduate." "Mrs. Roosevelt" was an existing song and it was changed to "Mrs. Robinson."
I heard it many times as a young child before I ever saw the movie and I loved it so much, so I vehemently disagree. Incredible song though; I'm sure we can agree on that.
Ha ha! Mrs Robinson! The times I have had 'Here's to you, Mrs Robinson' sung down the phone when giving my name lol! Hazy shade wins over Mrs R for me :D
I agree.
Me too, especially when hazy shade is followed by at the zoo
It wasn't a very big song for them but if you want to be blown away by Paul Simon's guitar playing, listen to his song "Anji". It has a great walking bass line and two other parts going at the same time. He also does a little "self quotation" in it by playing a snippet of "We've Got A Groovy Thing Going" in the middle of it. I've been playing guitar for over 50 years and love that song.
Paul Simon is second only to Bob Dylan as a songwriter, both barely edging Neil Young. I was in eighth grade when the Graduate came out. Mrs. Robinson was the theme song, & I was turned on to Paul Simon. What a trip he’s led me on! Memories are past, but each day gives us a new opportunity to grow, even when you’re in your 60’s (for a few more months)like me. Keep at it.✌️❤️🎶
You’re bringing back my childhood, man. I grew up listening to these guys. My dad had all these LP’s on vinyl and played them often. Been a Paul Simon fan all my life. Dude, you’re not in the fall of your life, the 28th year is a huge pivot for most people. You’re going to have so much more mature fun as your life grows with you. Stop looking back and look forward to. Life at 60 means you don’t have to give any effs about what anyone thinks, you can do what you like, look how you want and be who you are. Start enjoying yourself for who you are. No regrets! Counseling and antidepressants can be helpful for perspective. But don’t fear the future. It gets better with age and practice. Blessings!
I’m 68 and I feel ya word for word on your retrospective of life👍🏻❤️
The Lemonheads covered Mrs. Robinson in 1992.
The s&g version is from the movie, The Graduate. Mrs. Robinson was a character in it.
When I hear both of those songs I really hear influences of the beatles!
Any budding Paul Simon fan should check out GRACELAND.
His work just before “Graceland” seemed very low-key. That record revitalized him.
Mrs. Robinson: How relevant is it for these times!!
Stevie Wonder was an incredible and underrated drummer. I also love his funky keyboard bass lines
Paul Simon's,album Graceland, is a masterpiece! On that album he uses alot of South African musicians to create some fantastic grooves! It,s a Grammy winner!😊😊
Paul Simon's "Slip Sliding Away" is worthy of your reaction. You've got great reaction chops!
Freaking GENIUS SONG! Makes me tear up just reading your comment, and then hearing the chorus and a line or two, in my head, from MEMORY.🥹
When Paul Simon was first developing the lyrics for this song, the subject was Mrs. Roosevelt, as in Eleanor, the wife of FDR. But then S&G signed on to provide the soundtrack for Mike Nichols iconic movie, “The Graduate,” which among other things launched Dustin Hoffman's career. So the title became Mrs. Robinson, one of the main characters in the movie who famously seduces her daughter's boyfriend, played by the aforementioned Dustin Hoffman. The song is about loss of innocence in America.
Simon is great at triggering a gut reaction that makes you think. I enjoy the ride.
Yep, we like it keep talking...
Agreed- we have lost so much more innocence, even the small amount we had 🫣
Hazy shade of winter is probably the fastest tempo song they have
Try to keep the customer satisfied must at least match it.
Me and Julio?
Cecelia?
More than your great reactions, your personal reflections are moving and intensely honest. Lee, we've all made mistakes, all we can do is forge ahead and rebuild. Great work brother.
Mrs. Robinson was written for the movie The Graduate with Dustin Hoffman, so you kinda have to watch the movie to get the context of the song.
Mrs. Robinson has been covered by a number of artists, including Frank Sinatra, the Lemonheads, and Bon Jovi.
Mrs Robinson was written for the movie The Graduate. Classic with a young Dustin Hoffman and the magnificent Ann Bancroft.
The Lemonheads did a punk cover of Mrs. Robinson. Maybe that's what you had heard. But the original is hugely popular so may have heard it somewhere.
@@nonrepublicrat Actually, their cover is a lot of fun 🙂
Hope you are doing well. Really enjoy your reactions/comments. Sometimes they're even more enjoyable than the songs!
LOVE EM, LOVE EM, LOVE EM🥰🎶🎧
This song was a major part of the movie the Graduate.
Love ya bro. Thanks for listening! I had a lot of pain then also. Real friend
Have you listened to any of Paul's solo albums? They're all great too, but I Love Graceland & Rhythm of the Saints
This is what I grew up listening to! 😊
I’ve seen a number of reactors that don’t pick up that parts of Mrs. Robinson are describing her alcoholic life and other parts are what she’d hear being admitted to a what we would now call a rehab center.
Nobody knows how to grow up, even when it looks like they do. On the other hand everybody, looking back, knows how often they took the good things for granted.
Mrs Robinson was the introduction of Simon & Garfunkel as the theme song for the movie The graduate absolutely great movies starring Dustin Hoffman as a recent college graduate
Your appreciation for S&G is spot on. I'm always so impressed with how you grasp the emotional aspects of our music from decades past. Much of it was written in response to what we lived through back then. Somehow, I feel like you were there as well. Parsley, Sage, Rosemary & Thyme was the very first album I bought as a teen. Great introspective reactions ~ can't wait to hear more! ☮️ ❤️ 🎶 🎸 🎶
Many writers and artists describe their youth in their thirties
Paul Simon does show up on the occasional “best guitarist” list!
If it’s acoustic specific, he’s at the top, or very close!
We baby boomers grew up during the best 25 years of music in all of history, the years around Mozart not withstanding.
The whole album is a moodscape of different emotions. These two back to back make up the bangers. Good choice!!
Our human ability to reflect on our past and imagine 'what if'...and 'why did I do X instead of Y' is usually painful for us, but it's also a gift. Sometimes I just remind myself there will be (hopefully) a version of me in 10 or 20 years who'll be looking back at current me...just as current me is looking back critically at teenage me, early 20's me... and right now I should worry more about living my current life in a way that won't disappoint future me when that version of me looks back at this version of me. And current me's decisions will be wiser thanks to insights learned (usually the hard way) by younger me.
🌸 I just re-watched this... Simon and Garfunkel was my very first concert I ever went to. it was their reunion tour I believe 1984
Lee, you remind me of how we Baby Boomers were introspective in the sixties. I don’t see many young people like you around. It’s refreshing. I’m sure that the situations you have endured had a lot to do with your outlook.
To quote CSN & Y,
Carry on.
Oh, wrong group. Not CSN & Y.
Oh my word youve never heard this?? Its amazing isnt it??❤❤
Mike Nichols the film director of 'The graduate' wanted some new songs from Simon for the soundtrack, but Nichols rejected the first two he offered, which were 'Overs' and 'Punky's dilemma', which eventually got their release on the 'Bookends' album. Simon had the beginnings of a song he originally called 'Mrs. Roosevelt', which he then changed to fit with the film's character Mrs. Robinson, as it stilled luckily scanned with the same number of syllables. The catchy 'Dee -di-dees' were intended as only lyric place holders until Simon could write more words, but the director liked them so they stayed. It never got the full finished arrangement as a stand alone song until the recordings for the 'Bookends' album, but by then that hook had stook. The same was true on the duos follow up, and swansong album 'Bridge over troubled water', with the 'Lie-la'-lies' in the majestic 'The boxer', which Simon always felt embarrassed about for not writing a proper lyric. The irony is that those parts are the most catchy and universal elements, which anyone in the world, whatever language they speak, can instantly pick up on and sing along with. In the 70's Simon bumped into Joe Demaggio in a restaurant, and Joe, taking the lyric too literally, wanted to know why Paul had written 'Where did you go?'. He was placated once Simon explained it was a metaphor for a loss of, and nostalgia for better times, and the current lack of America hero's with the calibre and respect such as Joe had had in his prime.
Hazy shade of winter is one of my faves of theirs. Idk, just love it.
I thought it was all over for me when I was in my 50s. I'm in my 70s now and I look back and think I should have just appreciated it. Live one day at a time & be positive. You are really young.
Sit down and watch the movie The Graduate starring Dustin Hoffman it may be his first movie it's a feel good coming of age movie and the soundtrack is basically all Simon and Garfunkel songs
Nice reaction Mrs Robinson, every teenage boy's fantasy.
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