Help Me Resolve This Night Sky Anomaly
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- On the night of 22 August 2024, I was shooting a night sky time lapse with a mirrorless camera when two frames were subjected to an unknown, bright, fast moving, airborne light. I have been puzzling over what could have caused this but remain uncertain and would appreciate input. First event happens about 1:55 in.
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I think the consensus, and one I agree with, is that it was probably a bolide. No way to ever be certain but Occam's Razor and all. Thank you to everyone who contributed.
I think it is a power transformer blowing out in the distance.
But the light then moves to overhead and behind, coming from above south.
that's what I thought at first glance, colour matches an electrical flashover
Interesting! So great that you live in dark skies, you can capture great astro photos for us to enjoy 😁
dark skies are a boon, but with lot of patience you can do it from city lights too. I took these from Chicago
facebook.com/groups/ASIAIR/permalink/2935018006661403/ - HOO (Veil and Wizard)
drive.google.com/file/d/1bDaj7DfIpDGtqiA1hV-UPefaJf2x4xo6/view?usp=sharing - HaRGB (Andromeda)
However, the dark skies are still better. Waiting for my opportunity when I retire
Thanks, now you have enlightened my head wondering
The closest similar phenomena I've seen is the arcing from an electrical contact of a passing train at distance. I don't think the second 'back illumination' is a connected phenomenon. Only other thought is clear air lightning discharge - but one would expect to see more cues for that.
It was a clear night of excellent seeing, no atmospheric turbulence. We don't usually even get heat lightning on such nights. Though it's possible.
If I had to venture a guess, it may be an opening of a portal whereby a group of Sasquatch came into our realm, probably for space tourism or a group of Sabe people who are researchers checking in on the evolutionary progress of the humans in this sector of our galaxy. That's my guess... ;-) Cheers my friend ! ( I just hope they closed the door behind them ! )
I think there is a very high probability of this.
Maybe two smaller meteors from the same origin. One in front of the camera, one a bit later behind the camera. Both are close because they split when touching the atmosphere or something like a ufo maybe?
Statistically unlikely but possible.
Did you mention sea or a lake? I would check vessels of some kind.
Ship headlights are extremely powerful, but it can't be that because a few seconds later the light was coming from overhead and behind.
You said that there is a farmstead 1 km away...It looks like a flash of headlights as a vehicle turns briefly towards the camera .....I get a similar thing in my time lapse at Haleakala because of the observatories and the comings and goings of people ....since your subs are 20 seconds long it would capture this light on a moonless night like you have here and 1km that's only .6mi plenty close enough for car lights to be captured !
It can't be that because seconds later the light was coming from above and behind in the next frame.
@@SKYST0RY usually the simplest explanation is the correct one im sticking with headlights! the original light and possibly your camera articulating view finder came on as the exposure changed and gave off light , i have to close mine or it shows up in my frames....what we do know is it is NOT aliens or a Meteor ! its man made 100%
You are assuming the light in the two frames are connected. That might be an invalid assumption.
On a slightly different topic, as the video plays, the stars change brightness. For example, start at 1:02 and play to 1:12. With the controls YT offers, I can’t go frame by frame. But in that time, there is a rather dramatic change in the brightness of the stars. Is this something to do with the processing you are doing or perhaps a YT artifact? It happens more than once.
@@SKYST0RY it is possible that the flash caused the Viewfinder to come on and the light you see is the light from the viewfinder you ISO is really high so it could pick up that light in 20 second time..
Very interesting event.tectonic lights?
I'll have to look into that. It's not a phenomenon I know much about. But we don't really have much in the way of active tectonics in the Maritime region.
Either transformer or lightning way in distance.
I've seen similar living in Florida with clear skies where I am and lightning way out in distance.
The thing is the light source moved to above and behind the camera in the next frame, over a period six seconds (the delay the camera needs to process extended exposures).
I think with the increased solar activity that we are experiencing cool anomalies. I live in the Santa John area and on sept 7th I was shooting C20 and while I was looking up at Cygnus I saw a cool light show on the opposite side on Deneb. It was similar to a series of scattered camera flashes with some purple jets emitting from 2 of them. Of course my camera was in the wrong area so I didn't catch it. I'm convinced it was solar activity interacting with space junk. If it was just space junk I would have seen a trail.
Falling space junk is a possibility, especially as it moved so fast.
Hard to make a reasonable guess because there is no reference for distance except we can say it is beyond trees. If you can be certain that there are no humans or thunderstorms in that field for several hundred miles, then you may inferre it as a mystery. I lived in a very dark with low density of people area and saw things like that many times that seem to defy easy explanation. I always assumed they were man made. Finally, never underestimate the military to be doing something that might generate a large energy flash.
It is possible it may have been something like heat lightning, first to the north then to the south. I can't rule that out and it would fit the scenario. I think the bolide that others have suggested is most likely.
Looks like a power transformer if you have any that way.
The color is right but in the next frame the light is from overhead and a bit behind.
Well, I think the problem is the timelapse, which takes so much data out to interpret. First of all I was thinking about an atmospheric phenomenon, but at least I think you are totally right. It must be a meteor. For other explanation there is to less data. But hey, cool stuff, never seen that before.
I also photograph the sky with a, (or several) wide angle lenses. Clear nights and during lightning storms. I've captured some strange things as well.
Me, too. Usually I can explain them. This one though is strange because of how fast the light shifted from the horizon in front to the sky behind the camera.
Hi, if this is a bright firebal meteor then may be there is a website to look it up? I know in Spain we have a website that logs and track them. However, Sinds I've been spending a lot of time outside under the nights sky photographing for many years now, I've seem something simular. Sitting out site there have been moments that it looks like the complete sky liths up for a moment. Over the years (2007 till now) I think I've seen it around 10 to 15 times. No idea what it is, I guess it some thing natural.
There are definite random changes of luminosity through the night. Sometimes that's heat lightning, and undoubtedly there are other causes. Because the light source was so directional and it moved rapidly, I think bolide is the most likely explanation but I guess I'll have to live with I can never be sure. If it had been a bolide, it would have been incredible to catch it on camera.
Transformer explosion?
I don't think so. The light then moves to overhead and behind, coming from above south in the next frame.
@@SKYST0RY that’s true and it lasting for that long would not match up
Three years ago in the summer I was photographing the Milky Way on the Canary Islands, looking east over the Atlantic Ocean, towards Africa (no land for hundreds of kilometers). I’ve seen a light going from the northern edge of the horizon to the south within 2-3 seconds. Relatively low, fully horizontal trajectory. Still cannot explain what it could have been. Waaay too fast for any plane, too low for a meteor.
Sounds like you saw a bolide. I think that is very likely what is was partially caught in this time lapse.
Just curious, what is behind that camera?
There is a dirt road that about 10 cars use per day, but it is downhill, through woods and over a 100 meters away. Then more woods for 20-30 km all the way to the Atlantic Ocean.
@@SKYST0RY hmmm maybe something reflected from the ocean?
I have a question about your telescope, I have the same c8, unfortunately mine always give to me not round stars, is well colimate, but tested with DSLR, and stick 11000, same results.
I will love to show you some tests photos to get your opinion.
Cheers.
Sure, if you give me a link to them I will be happy to take a look.
@@SKYST0RY hi, thanks, I will take today the samples of colimation with star, focus with bahtinov, and a couple of photos with the 6.3 reducer on place, I will publish it in my website and I will let you know, so you can take a look. All will be available today around 11pm Bonaire time.
Thank you very much.
If you check for Bonaire cloudy nights observatory, you will find the link to the site.
@@SKYST0RY Please open in your Pc for better view.
@@bonairecloudynightsobserva2297 I checked the site but didn't see anything labeled collimation issues. The images in your gallery do tend to be under exposed. That might be part of the issue. If you use BlurXterminator, run it first in correct mode on an image then in standard mode before you begin any editing or even stretch the information.
@@SKYST0RY hi, yes, in the section: what is happening in Bonaire sky, at the end I add under the Sept 15 entry the info and the pictures.
I didn't add anything under the name collimation.
U-F-O! U-F-O! U-F-O! The aliens finally have viseted us (again)! 😄
I think I will place a DSLM outside too when using my astro photography gear.
Its a car. I saw same on '2hrs in the dark' on recent short.
No roads that way, just woods for miles and miles. Besides, in the next frame the light is coming from overhead and behind.
Maybe some kind of sprite atmospheric discharge... I still feel like we don't know much about space weather
It could be. Sometimes we get heat lightning, but that's usually only on nights of high humidity following the passing of storms.
@@SKYST0RY true but it's over the North Pole still makes me question it might be some kind of space weather and with the poles shifting who knows what we might see you soon
It could be anything...?
Helicopterseachlight?
Possible, though I think it was moving too fast.
Power Transformer
The color is right but in the next frame the light is from overhead and a bit behind.
It looks like a distant lightning flash to me.
There was a major high pressure system at the time. No weather for hundreds of km. But heat lightning is a possibility.
Its a meteor. In sweden we call it a "Bolid or in English Bolide". Its a meteror that flashed and often it has an impact. Seen it from stockholm, bright light flashes and i takes couple of seconds to cross the sky. This is a video from "skåne" in south of sweden recorded by a car. Yes as u can se its slow and flashes. Flashes can seen across wast distance. often from many contries. My best bet it that wat is is. Clear skies. Cool channel. Video from the event. ruclips.net/video/n1pse-jmlx4/видео.html
I think you are very likely right. The fireball I saw when I was a kid was so bright it lit up the daytime sky, and it probably took 10 seconds to cross the sky. I sure wish I had been out there to see it. It must have been extraordinary.
@@SKYST0RY This "Boliod" Exploded in the atmosphere and came down 2 years ago and was a hunt for it. The found it and its on a museeum. The Flash was visbile from in all sweden, and Norway.U can find map how wast u could see it. I problably where on the edge of seeing it. Have seen it come down over Sweden cople of times. I am astrophotographer and i am out alot in the night. Picture from the one that landen i sweden 2022 static-cdn.sr.se/images/406/e9cb19ce-4007-4726-a1d4-e97ea2c0caaf.jpg?preset=2048x1152&format=webp
I'm guessing it's that as well
I'm thinking a transformer explosion over the horizon, I've witnessed many of these and it looks very much the same.
Over the horizon it might make sense, but it doesn't explain the light in the next frame coming from overhead and behind (southward).
@@SKYST0RY ... two transformers blowing up? one where the camera is filming and another one opposite to the camera. It miiiiiiiiiight make sense if we really stretch it, but you said it's only acres of forest around, so idk. Judging by the light looking blue, it looks electrical in nature. Maybe a power surge blew up two trannies one after the other? That begs the question: why did you not lose power? I saw a transformer create this sort of discharge just a week ago, during a a night of astrophotography. The transformer did not blow up, but created some sort of arcing in the air...somehow? Don't know too much about power lines and power transformers, but it's plausible.
Yeah, ok. Meteor sounds more probable than this.
@@SKYST0RY they are very bright flashes, so there would be atmospheric reflections especially if there were some cloud or temperature inversion, It happens all the time here in Melbourne when a transformer blows
SpaceX launch? 🤷🏽♂️
The SpaceX launch facility is a long, long way away.
@SKYST0RY we had one making quite a display a few days ago, here in Virginia, so it came to mind. Not sure how far north the flight path is visible.