@@canarychrome7012 In 2012 I bought SS-1000XP. Then in 2016 - SSR-750TD. But that one was not for me. It was for a family member's PC. Another one that I did not use was Prime Snow Silent 750 SS-750XP2S. Man, that was for an all-white build I did for a schoolmate. That one was a blast. We used the PSU as an exhaust fan. Assembled in 2018. Still working as if it was brand new to this day. The next one I bought for myself was Prime TX-1000. That was last year. Apparently Seasonic's 10-year warranty is legit.
I had one let me down, though I don't hold it against the brand, I kind of blame Amazon because of the way they shipped it. But there was a persistent "new electronics smell" that lasted over a week and gave me a headache it was so strong while gaming. Eventually the PSU started making a high pitched electrical harmonic noise so since it was still in the return period for Amazon, I sent it back. Mine was a Focus 1000w gold.
With news of the forthcoming CEM 5.1 specification that will serve as the basis for the ATX 3.1 standard, I cancelled my pre-order of this Seasonic Prime ATX 3.0 TX-1600 and will await Seasonic’s response to the situation. For me, the selling point of the PSU is the 12VHPWR for my 3090 Ti and future 5090 Ti. Unfortunately, the 12VHPWR connector has a known flaw and is very much dead in the water and won't be utilized going forward, even if the 12V-2x6 power connector has backward compatibility with the 12VHPWR connector. It's one thing if the PSU was mid-tier, but as the most expensive PSU on the market, I'm not going to shell out top dollar for technology with a known issue as well as knowing it's already obsolete before it hits the shelves.
Update: I went ahead and purchased this PSU, despite the known issue. After doing some more research, the problem quite minimal, situational, easily identifiable, and avoidable if you're ensuring a tight fit of the connector and not forcing any extreme bends, both of which are standard good practices when building your own PC and what I've already followed for years in all my builds. Simple solutions are already being brought to market such as Corsair’s 90 degree connector and will be available to purchase long before any manufacturer produces PSUs with ATX 3.1. ATX 3.1 still needs to go through a formal approval process from the governing body of that specification which will likely be a drawn out process.
I recently bought a very expensive Vertex GX 1200, figured it would last a very long time indeed. Now we have the uprated 12vhpwr connection coming out, I don’t think I would recommend anyone buys a ATX 3 PSU until the dust settles. I contacted seasonic and they said they were investigating, I sure hope they can offer replacement cables. The problem is all of Seasonic’s ATX 3 PSU’s (like many other brands) use the 12vhpwr on both ends - so it will mean the end on the PSU itself is now the ‘old’ style connection. Very frustrating this whole mess.
Great video Leo,,, I've never used a Seasonic PSU in my personal build before but after see the cables included and your explanation; i'll be choosing one of those in my next upgrade.
Seasonic actually supplies a lot of PSUs to others that stick their name on the case as they are one of the OEMs. Superflower is also an OEM rising name in the game that used to just make PSUs for others. If I recall correctly, Superflower makes Corsair PSUs, at least some of them. Corsairs does not manufacture their CPUs, they design them and an OEM builds them.
After trying 2 ASUS TUF ATX 3.0 and 2 ASUS SFX ATX 3.0 and their noisy fan, went back to Seasonic. Bought the “lesser” 1200W Vertex for 230 pounds and can’t fault it at all. Very quiet, no coil whine and the fans aren’t intrusive when on. Cables from ASUS slightly softer, easier to manage, but Seasonic’s aren’t bad either.
Guys, I gota say they had the newer atx 3.1 psus at computex. The 3.1s should be hitting the selves soon. They will have the new 12v-2x6 cable. Some psus that are 3.0 don't use the 12vhpwr on the psu end. Those are future proof. That is a great psu although I'd wait.
Following on from the amusement of a power supply line being called "Hydro", now we've got one named after the T-X terminator model in T3-Rise of the Machines... 😂
Great PSU but I don't understand why they don't implement a monitoring solution like Corsair through internal USB2 connector on the Mobo, I have the Corsair HX1200i and I really like that I can monitor the PSU power, voltage, amps, temps, control the fan and the rails through iQue, you can buy the AX1600i for the same price.
I think kitguru never want to do this stuff, but based on their posts on youtube, people want more PSU content - but i suppose you can never win on youtube lol
That 90° coupler is like nails on a chalkboard, it's too much leverage on the pcb connector. Often the grommet is right under connector, they could have gone 180°, or at that price, include both
Hoping someone can answer my question. If I currently have a Prime TX-1600 with CableMod braided cables, aside from the new 16 pin (12VHPWR) cables, would I be able to reuse the CableMod cables with the TX/PX -1600 ATX 3.0?
Late reply but my buddy runs a home media server with a crap ton (like 10 or 12 HDD) of hard drives so that requires a good amount of power. But other than that, I don't think you'd come close to needing that unless you're able to run a 14900k on max overclock (which I don't recommend right now for obvious reasons) and a 4090.
Have Seasonic improved there psu fans? i have seasonic prime 850 plat from 2017 and fan got louder since then, it feels even loder in my new pc, loudest part in my pc when fan spins up right now, i rly start to look at other brands with better fan quality such a shame tho
have you cleaned out the fan in the last 7 years? it could be fan motor wear, but sometimes if you use a good air duster and blast it out, it might help.
@@KitGuruTech psu is clean from dust , that was 1st thing i checked back then And i dont wana deal with rma warranty coz i only have one psu and i read it online if seasonic sends replacement usualy it has the same fan problem
The only problem is. In Australia the supplier's hate seasonic. Always telling me to get something else ot flst out wont deal with you. One even said they not the best psu company. Still after 4 weeks cant get one.. its s shame
@@KitGuruTech Emailed the locals that deal with Seasonic, was told there was no ATX 3.0 version, so I emailed seasonic asking them who in australia they have them shipped too, so seasonic replied to me with the distributor confirming they had stock, then talking to the sale team of that place they said they had the wrong power cable and could not sell them, so found another place they said they had one in stock , but turned out to be the TX not the PX version, so I've given up at this point and looking at corsair or therminaltake . it should not be this hard go get a high quality product.
@@LaOguldonI’m going through the same process as you right now, guess you’ve been communicating with PCpowerhouse. I noticed that on their website it notes that you may need a 16A 3pin adapter, for an $700 Aud psu you shouldn’t need an adapter…
Exactly..... Poor people are gonna be poor though..... 😉. I have an RTX4080 Asus Tuf OC GPU and Intel i713700k as a result I bought a proper 1200 watt EVGA platinum or titanium (can't remember ,sue me) power supply. I built a combo that made sense price to performance and within my means without causing me financial struggle of any kind. Had I went I913900k and 4090 I'd have a 1600watt power supply and absolutely it'd be EVGA, Master Cooler if they have 1600 (their 750 to 1200 V series are really good) or seasoning like this model. Platinum or titanium would be fine.... I'd prolly just go platinum as I don't keep mine doing hard crunching 24/7. I'd go titanium if it was a workstation, editing station and game rig. For me it's just a game rig.... People need to be realistic
I'm sorry, but I have to point out that the price of that PSU seems quite steep at £500. It's understandable to feel frustrated when companies charge exorbitant prices for their products. It's important to be honest with subscribers and not try to sell them something that isn't worth the cost. Additionally, the adapter you just showed me confirms that it's not a good deal and could be considered a rip-off.
[Username_1], I believe the price for a power unit is still too high. It seems like companies are simply following the trend of overcharging, instead of offering fair prices.
@@jonathanmaybury5698 they offer cheaper ones. These are 1600w flagship models. It’s not for you. It’s very fair for what it is. Buy one lower in their range and pay less ? Seems an obvious move.
@@bobsmithson8592Is a PSU really groundbreaking technology? It seems to be just a more powerful version of a less impressive PSU. Who even needs a 1600 watt PSU? Maybe if you were into crypto mining or a similar activity that requires a lot of power. I don't see the point of promoting this. I thought the company behind these videos was sensible and British, but this kind of thing seems more like what you'd expect from Americans.
@@jonathanmaybury5698 You thought we were American? Everyone speaking on Kitguru has an english accent. And we are unsure what you mean you would expect this from Americans? an unboxing video highlighting the technology and pointing to a review on the main website which is a technical analysis of a new platform which hits titanium standards (over 96% efficiency - 96.5% in our tests which is class leading)? bit.ly/3K1VGgq. Not sure if you are complaining about the video, whats in the video, or the quality of the power supply, but the fact you think we are american (even if its a sarcastic snide remark) and are insulting americans for a reason we can't work out - baffles us. If you don't want us to cover technology then maybe you need to find a different channel, thats all we do. This Seasonic unit uses high grade 105C Japanese capacitors throughout the design, with high grade Nippon Chemi Con caps making up the primary stage. Three massive 420v 820uF capacitors deliver a total of 2460uF. This is significantly higher uF than the 2022 version of this supply which we reviewed back in September 2022. Due to this massive capacity we noticed Seasonic have used dual NTC thermistors with 20ohm x2 resistance. These are installed on a vertically mounted board into the main PCB to save horizontal foot print. Seasonic are using a full bridge topology inside this power supply with an LLC resonant converter alongside a bridgeless interleaved PFC. The power for the 12V rail is created via 16 FETs. The minor rails are generated by a pair of DC to DC converters. It is a class leading design and one of the best we have tested. If you don't understand that, then stop arguing about it. If its just the price you dont like, we get it. but you can hardly claim on any technical level its not worth covering. At this point I would just say you are best moving on rather than arguing about pricing and get something you can afford. The world is a big place - some people want power supplies at this quality and this capacity - otherwise they wouldn't still make them. It might be surprising but the world doesn't revolve around what 'you' think. Its a big place with a lot of different opinions and demands. Also the Platinum unit is NOT £500, its £380. The titanium one is just under £500. We unboxed the platinum, we reviewed the titanium. - Allan, Kitguru Editor In Chief.
You think so? They do quite a range of units, but they are a premium brand. I don't think this one is marketed for your 800 dollar system, its more for the ultra high end, with 4080 or 4090 gpus in the mix, and even for workstations and home server racks etc.
Better buying quality once, than many times and getting crap. ive had a power supply take out my motherboard and CPU before when I skimped. lesson learned
Read the indepth technical analysis of the TX-1600 ATX 3.0 TITANIUM review over here: bit.ly/3K1VGgq
I love Seasonic's PSUs. They have never let me down, no matter the form factor.
they are great, what one do you own?
@@canarychrome7012 In 2012 I bought SS-1000XP. Then in 2016 - SSR-750TD. But that one was not for me. It was for a family member's PC.
Another one that I did not use was Prime Snow Silent 750 SS-750XP2S. Man, that was for an all-white build I did for a schoolmate. That one was a blast. We used the PSU as an exhaust fan. Assembled in 2018. Still working as if it was brand new to this day.
The next one I bought for myself was Prime TX-1000. That was last year. Apparently Seasonic's 10-year warranty is legit.
I had one let me down, though I don't hold it against the brand, I kind of blame Amazon because of the way they shipped it. But there was a persistent "new electronics smell" that lasted over a week and gave me a headache it was so strong while gaming. Eventually the PSU started making a high pitched electrical harmonic noise so since it was still in the return period for Amazon, I sent it back. Mine was a Focus 1000w gold.
With news of the forthcoming CEM 5.1 specification that will serve as the basis for the ATX 3.1 standard, I cancelled my pre-order of this Seasonic Prime ATX 3.0 TX-1600 and will await Seasonic’s response to the situation.
For me, the selling point of the PSU is the 12VHPWR for my 3090 Ti and future 5090 Ti. Unfortunately, the 12VHPWR connector has a known flaw and is very much dead in the water and won't be utilized going forward, even if the 12V-2x6 power connector has backward compatibility with the 12VHPWR connector. It's one thing if the PSU was mid-tier, but as the most expensive PSU on the market, I'm not going to shell out top dollar for technology with a known issue as well as knowing it's already obsolete before it hits the shelves.
you have a point!
Update: I went ahead and purchased this PSU, despite the known issue. After doing some more research, the problem quite minimal, situational, easily identifiable, and avoidable if you're ensuring a tight fit of the connector and not forcing any extreme bends, both of which are standard good practices when building your own PC and what I've already followed for years in all my builds.
Simple solutions are already being brought to market such as Corsair’s 90 degree connector and will be available to purchase long before any manufacturer produces PSUs with ATX 3.1. ATX 3.1 still needs to go through a formal approval process from the governing body of that specification which will likely be a drawn out process.
I recently bought a very expensive Vertex GX 1200, figured it would last a very long time indeed. Now we have the uprated 12vhpwr connection coming out, I don’t think I would recommend anyone buys a ATX 3 PSU until the dust settles. I contacted seasonic and they said they were investigating, I sure hope they can offer replacement cables. The problem is all of Seasonic’s ATX 3 PSU’s (like many other brands) use the 12vhpwr on both ends - so it will mean the end on the PSU itself is now the ‘old’ style connection. Very frustrating this whole mess.
That is the disadvantage of trying to go with whatever is the latest.
Yep it's called the 12v-2x6
The high end ones have more than enough 2x8 pin connectors to fall back to.
Cant believe how nice a box that is for a power supply!
Great video Leo,,, I've never used a Seasonic PSU in my personal build before but after see the cables included and your explanation; i'll be choosing one of those in my next upgrade.
Seasonic actually supplies a lot of PSUs to others that stick their name on the case as they are one of the OEMs. Superflower is also an OEM rising name in the game that used to just make PSUs for others. If I recall correctly, Superflower makes Corsair PSUs, at least some of them. Corsairs does not manufacture their CPUs, they design them and an OEM builds them.
After trying 2 ASUS TUF ATX 3.0 and 2 ASUS SFX ATX 3.0 and their noisy fan, went back to Seasonic. Bought the “lesser” 1200W Vertex for 230 pounds and can’t fault it at all. Very quiet, no coil whine and the fans aren’t intrusive when on. Cables from ASUS slightly softer, easier to manage, but Seasonic’s aren’t bad either.
Leo is always so busy with his boxes.
The power supply adapter could have been designed to be 180 degree which would then require no cable bending
That 90 degree connector coming off the motherboard is way overdue well done seasonic.
Looks like its full of really nice kit those cables look top end.
I have the PX 1300 Prime. Fantastic PSU.
Guys, I gota say they had the newer atx 3.1 psus at computex. The 3.1s should be hitting the selves soon. They will have the new 12v-2x6 cable. Some psus that are 3.0 don't use the 12vhpwr on the psu end. Those are future proof. That is a great psu although I'd wait.
Following on from the amusement of a power supply line being called "Hydro", now we've got one named after the T-X terminator model in T3-Rise of the Machines... 😂
Great PSU but I don't understand why they don't implement a monitoring solution like Corsair through internal USB2 connector on the Mobo, I have the Corsair HX1200i and I really like that I can monitor the PSU power, voltage, amps, temps, control the fan and the rails through iQue, you can buy the AX1600i for the same price.
Definitely getting one of these!
get ready to change those 12VHPWR cable to the new spec. 12V 2 x 6 cable ...........
Leo looks cheesed off his bench became a mess with all that stuff on it.
Love how unboxing a power supply has become a thing.
I think kitguru never want to do this stuff, but based on their posts on youtube, people want more PSU content - but i suppose you can never win on youtube lol
Really nice PSU, too bad it is so expensive. Also the 24-pin adapter is too big for most cases I used.
Quality units. 🎉❤
That 90° coupler is like nails on a chalkboard, it's too much leverage on the pcb connector. Often the grommet is right under connector, they could have gone 180°, or at that price, include both
Would like to see how those fanless PSUs perform.
Is another variant 750w with ATX 3.0?…
That gigabyte card is absolutely enormous.
Hoping someone can answer my question.
If I currently have a Prime TX-1600 with CableMod braided cables, aside from the new 16 pin (12VHPWR) cables, would I be able to reuse the CableMod cables with the TX/PX -1600 ATX 3.0?
OK those drawstring bags are a bit excessive - how often are you going to be carrying one of these around?
Surely 1600 watts is reaching the limit of what you can pull out of the wall in the states on 110volt.
Yep. You can’t buy a space heater higher than 1500 watt for that reason.
@@BoomerPlusUltra UK its around 3000 watts due to the 220-240v system, but i wouldn't fancy doing that too long!
When/where is it on sale? Have they said anything about 12v-2x6?
For what do you even need so much power
Late reply but my buddy runs a home media server with a crap ton (like 10 or 12 HDD) of hard drives so that requires a good amount of power. But other than that, I don't think you'd come close to needing that unless you're able to run a 14900k on max overclock (which I don't recommend right now for obvious reasons) and a 4090.
Describe a system requiring 1600W pls. Triple 4090?
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Hi. Which is better, a new gtx 1060 6gb, or a clean used 1080 11gb?
Have Seasonic improved there psu fans?
i have seasonic prime 850 plat from 2017 and fan got louder since then, it feels even loder in my new pc, loudest part in my pc when fan spins up right now,
i rly start to look at other brands with better fan quality
such a shame tho
have you cleaned out the fan in the last 7 years? it could be fan motor wear, but sometimes if you use a good air duster and blast it out, it might help.
@@KitGuruTech psu is clean from dust , that was 1st thing i checked back then
And i dont wana deal with rma warranty coz i only have one psu and i read it online if seasonic sends replacement usualy it has the same fan problem
The only problem is. In Australia the supplier's hate seasonic. Always telling me to get something else ot flst out wont deal with you. One even said they not the best psu company.
Still after 4 weeks cant get one.. its s shame
What suppliers do you deal with? thats interesting to hear ---!
@@KitGuruTech Emailed the locals that deal with Seasonic, was told there was no ATX 3.0 version, so I emailed seasonic asking them who in australia they have them shipped too, so seasonic replied to me with the distributor confirming they had stock, then talking to the sale team of that place they said they had the wrong power cable and could not sell them, so found another place they said they had one in stock , but turned out to be the TX not the PX version,
so I've given up at this point and looking at corsair or therminaltake .
it should not be this hard go get a high quality product.
@@LaOguldonI’m going through the same process as you right now, guess you’ve been communicating with PCpowerhouse. I noticed that on their website it notes that you may need a 16A 3pin adapter, for an $700 Aud psu you shouldn’t need an adapter…
Thing is once you’ve unboxed and installed it’s highly unlikely you are going to be looking at that power supply for the next decade or so.
So many silly comments in here. If you spent 4 grand on your pc 400-500 bucks on a psu is a solid idea.
Exactly..... Poor people are gonna be poor though..... 😉.
I have an RTX4080 Asus Tuf OC GPU and Intel i713700k as a result I bought a proper 1200 watt EVGA platinum or titanium (can't remember ,sue me) power supply. I built a combo that made sense price to performance and within my means without causing me financial struggle of any kind.
Had I went I913900k and 4090 I'd have a 1600watt power supply and absolutely it'd be EVGA, Master Cooler if they have 1600 (their 750 to 1200 V series are really good) or seasoning like this model. Platinum or titanium would be fine.... I'd prolly just go platinum as I don't keep mine doing hard crunching 24/7. I'd go titanium if it was a workstation, editing station and game rig. For me it's just a game rig....
People need to be realistic
I'm sorry, but I have to point out that the price of that PSU seems quite steep at £500. It's understandable to feel frustrated when companies charge exorbitant prices for their products. It's important to be honest with subscribers and not try to sell them something that isn't worth the cost. Additionally, the adapter you just showed me confirms that it's not a good deal and could be considered a rip-off.
This one is 390. The titanium is around 500
[Username_1], I believe the price for a power unit is still too high. It seems like companies are simply following the trend of overcharging, instead of offering fair prices.
@@jonathanmaybury5698 they offer cheaper ones. These are 1600w flagship models. It’s not for you. It’s very fair for what it is. Buy one lower in their range and pay less ? Seems an obvious move.
@@bobsmithson8592Is a PSU really groundbreaking technology? It seems to be just a more powerful version of a less impressive PSU. Who even needs a 1600 watt PSU? Maybe if you were into crypto mining or a similar activity that requires a lot of power. I don't see the point of promoting this. I thought the company behind these videos was sensible and British, but this kind of thing seems more like what you'd expect from Americans.
@@jonathanmaybury5698 You thought we were American? Everyone speaking on Kitguru has an english accent. And we are unsure what you mean you would expect this from Americans? an unboxing video highlighting the technology and pointing to a review on the main website which is a technical analysis of a new platform which hits titanium standards (over 96% efficiency - 96.5% in our tests which is class leading)? bit.ly/3K1VGgq. Not sure if you are complaining about the video, whats in the video, or the quality of the power supply, but the fact you think we are american (even if its a sarcastic snide remark) and are insulting americans for a reason we can't work out - baffles us. If you don't want us to cover technology then maybe you need to find a different channel, thats all we do.
This Seasonic unit uses high grade 105C Japanese capacitors throughout the design, with high grade Nippon Chemi Con caps making up the primary stage. Three massive 420v 820uF capacitors deliver a total of 2460uF. This is significantly higher uF than the 2022 version of this supply which we reviewed back in September 2022. Due to this massive capacity we noticed Seasonic have used dual NTC thermistors with 20ohm x2 resistance. These are installed on a vertically mounted board into the main PCB to save horizontal foot print. Seasonic are using a full bridge topology inside this power supply with an LLC resonant converter alongside a bridgeless interleaved PFC. The power for the 12V rail is created via 16 FETs. The minor rails are generated by a pair of DC to DC converters. It is a class leading design and one of the best we have tested. If you don't understand that, then stop arguing about it.
If its just the price you dont like, we get it. but you can hardly claim on any technical level its not worth covering. At this point I would just say you are best moving on rather than arguing about pricing and get something you can afford. The world is a big place - some people want power supplies at this quality and this capacity - otherwise they wouldn't still make them. It might be surprising but the world doesn't revolve around what 'you' think. Its a big place with a lot of different opinions and demands. Also the Platinum unit is NOT £500, its £380. The titanium one is just under £500. We unboxed the platinum, we reviewed the titanium.
- Allan, Kitguru Editor In Chief.
Ridiculously over-priced
a PSU costing more then a PC, these brands have lost touch
You think so? They do quite a range of units, but they are a premium brand. I don't think this one is marketed for your 800 dollar system, its more for the ultra high end, with 4080 or 4090 gpus in the mix, and even for workstations and home server racks etc.
Better buying quality once, than many times and getting crap. ive had a power supply take out my motherboard and CPU before when I skimped. lesson learned
It likely now has the legacy ATX12vhpwr connector and not the recently updated ATX12v-2x6
@@boltsandbraces6261 put it which ever way you like but you know its very expensive for what it is, A PSU
It's a top of the line psu.....It's overkill for 99 % of current builds.
Most people don't need anything over 700/800 watt