How Busta Rhymes & Leaders of the New School Broke Up on Yo! MTV Raps
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- Опубликовано: 17 мар 2022
- Dante Ross tells Open Mike Eagle the story of how Busta Rhymes & the Leaders of the New School essentially broke up live on Yo! MTV Raps in 1993.
From the What Had Happened Was podcast, season 3.
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L.O.N.S. T.I.M.E. is a Dope album. I still play it to this day. I remember watching Fab 5 interview them and this going down back then. The look on Milo's face when Brown said "learning about myself and my capabilities" was like"Yo WTF is this dude on?" lol
Busta was the real standout star of the group, his energy was unparalleled, if the LONS album didn’t work, didn’t sell and no hype, it’d have been a waste of investment for a third album budget. Bus was right to listen to Dante Ross, because if he stayed with LONS and the album performed poorly then they would’ve gotten dropped and written off
Going Solo was the best move for his career 30 plus years later he's still here and rocking.
"The Leaders was over" but featured on The Coming
Yeah because Busta Rhymes was loyal and show love to the rest of L.O.N.S., when the hip-hop world didn't show them no love at all !.
Charlie Brown always came off as the ultimate hater.
When one door closes, another door opens. This was the best thing to happen for Bus. So glad Bus went solo. Forever changed hip-hop.
I like the album- I just listened to it again recently.
Dinco D was the nicest at that time to me.. His lack of work ethic hurt him I think.
I met dinco.hes a real solid dude.
Yeah but in Dincos defense, At that time Hip Hop was still fairly new and not Near as a popular and lucrative genre as it is now! A lot of talented rappers back then Especially New York knew felt that Rap was more of a hobby and if you blow up you BLOW UP. So once leaders broke up he probably just said Forget it
Busta was going solo,regardless have you notice how each members career since?Busta is one of the best rappers all time,got BET lifetime acheivement award.where's the others at?
True, but also Busta had love for them! I'm pretty sure that Busta learned from groups like NWA even Brand Nubian! Busta didn't wanna do that to his friends in his crew he looked at as brothers. Charlie Brown should've put his pride to the side as they all are committed to the group! It was all about the fight for the leader position smh. I'm sure that haunted C.Brown for years.
If you put in Busta's ear to be solo. It was kinda your fault.
He was leaps ahead of the group and everyone saw it out the gate.. This was bound to happen regardless
@@MelquanKatz I don't know it wasn't until Scenario for me but I was always a C Brown fan.
@@TheUnorthodoxx I hear ya but I remember when they performed PTA on In Living Color everyone was talking about Buster's delivery and performance energy.. C Brown was entertaining for sure. I really thought he was going to have success as a solo artist as well. btw Dinco D has been making songs and is working on a project now with a few other artists.
@@MelquanKatz You right, look at Busta now... but where is Brown!? Good looking out, imma look up Dinco D.
@@TheUnorthodoxx Here is a joint he featured on. I think they are doing more songs together. ruclips.net/video/eshXvT9sflk/видео.html
That was a disaster on Yo! MTV Raps.
LONS was a hip hop -pilot group that was a like a lot of hip hop coming of age groups and artists at that time. They were the offspring of the likes of ATCQ Jungle Brothers, De La just to name a few. From their very first appearance and song “Case of the PTA,” you could easily hear that Busta was the most talented lyricist. His unique rambunctious wordplay -rhyme style, delivery and voice to a C Brown’s more chaotic-choppy with lil screams here and there that appeared a bit disjointed and out of sync at times was unequal and unmatched in energy to Bustas. And while Dinco D’s style was more mellowed and smooth flowing, he and C Brown’s lyrics had no major sustenance that made their rhymes enjoyable nor memorable. You can hear in all of their songs from their first album and even in their second album “ The Inner Minds Eye” which I like more so, that Busta overshadowed his group mates with lyrical creativity and style. Yes Busta may have been loyal to the group at first, ( especially on the come up), but when others in the industry only notice the sheer raw talent of his to who’s the weakest link of that LONS group, it’s easy to say that Busta stood out and spit fire on anything he touched like a dungeon dragon 🐉 literally, it burn-branded his name and guaranteed his solo success. In fact an honorable mention, it really wasn’t until Busta’s appearance on ATCQ’s -Scenario that really sealed the deal and foundation towards his solo career and success. In hindsight Busta was already a solo artist waiting for his chance and opportunity in a group that wasn’t unfortunately substantial enough to last long anyway, due to lack of creativity and talent. And C Brown hated that so much of fact that Busta was just better than him lyrically no matter how hard he tried and Dinco D knowing this wasn’t gonna last forever but seemed just appreciative to be a part of hip hop history at a time when Hip Hop was at its best!
I feel sad that instead of C.Brown being jealous of Busta? Why couldn't he be happy for him? Busta loved his group but C.Brown made that shit difficult for him, they would fist fight and all? Busta had to be really depressed about that, he wanted to be about unity of something he loved. I'm sure the others felt the same way too but C.Brown was a problem! If you look at certain pictures of them especially one in a limo? You can tell C.Brown mind was just somewhere else! This obviously reminded me of Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers and Busta's Frankie! Everybody just saw Frankie but not the group as a whole, that's when Frankie and Herman Santiago fought maybe more than one time. But luckily Busta wasn't on heavy drugs and career didn't went spiral like Frankie's but I'm saying that Busta was the star of the group.
Never knew this. Didn't read the magazines, only relied on muchmusic and local radio in canada.
This dude caused all that confusion
I sure would have like to hear how the third L.O.N.S. unreleased album called "Lose Over Nonsense" would have sound like without Busta Rhymes ?. We will never know or find out the outcome !. 🌅👋💵💵💵🎤🎤🎤💿💿💿💯👍🌃
Wait a second they had a third unreleased album? When they made that? Cause I'm sure without Busta it wouldn't had made alot of noise! Busta can shine on his own? But the group I believe could shine as well, but Busta is the glue to them like Dirty to Wu Tang! Imagine if Busta didn't live long enough to see the potential he had? That would've ended LONS permanently
@@91Definite Yeah no they never did, Dinco D told me recently had they not broke up as a group that the third album was going to be called that "Lose Over Nonsense", instead Charlie Brown breaks up the group back in 1993 and Busta Rhymes drops his solo album The Coming - 1996 !. Also remember on the coming album they did a track song - Keep It Moving ruclips.net/video/8y5xxDpf7ZE/видео.htmlsi=qZ8RF4QzoouLRFFU.
I wish C. Brown did a solo album
The production of the album wasn't the same sound that made many people like LONS in the first place.
I used to smoke a lot of weed I still do but I used to
Whatever happened to Charlie Brown?
That's bullshit Busta was going solo anyway...This dude says first " They put it in bustas ear " Then he says he was loyal to the LONS...So it was yours fault...
🗣️ “Dante is a scrub!”
The label broke them cuz Charlie allowed them to
I once saw Charlie Brown walking holding a box of pizza in Uniondale, NY around the time when Busta was first making big time money records. Sad. No car, just walked to the pizzeria and I'm assuming back home. Busta is a poser, he went to the same junior high & high school I went to in Uniondale (Turtle Hook & Uniondale High School). It's written on the back of the first song's vinyl cover. The first few videos were filmed in Uniondale. Busta's family lived on Birch Street in Uniondale until he got signed and maybe graduated, but his parents eventually sold the house to my friends parents. His younger brother Paul was like the black sheep of the family cause he was left behind to continue living in Uniondale and going to Uniondale High School. Paul lived a normal life while his brother was a star. Sad shit. Last time I saw Paul was at a small bar in Baldwin, Ny in 2012 sitting in the booth behind me drinking with some woman. Obviously he wasn't rich, he was just another local guy spending a few bucks on a regular weekend. Why doesn't Busta ever mention Paul?
Thanks for sharing
Hmmmm...Dontae.....
Worth knowing..
Hmmmm..
Stall..Selah
cross upside down gets no love from me
reverb lol
Busta was always the standout of the group 👎🏻 for the upside down cross shirt “blakhrts”smh
All there lps were weak tbh and it’s obvious Busta was the only one with real talent and brains.. that was the last you ever heard of the others.. karma
You tripping they shit was good! The chemistry could've been better if C.Brown wasn't against Busta Rhymes all the time
Dante's a scrub 😂
Blasphemy is blasphemy. In Jesus Christs name we pray amen.