@@DelightfulTyrant They also lost all their data to a leak a few years back. So your DNA along with your entire extended family can be on the darknet, too.
I have a female friend who really likes assassins creed, played all of them for years. Ezio was her favorite character from his journey in the early games. When they made newer games, where you can play as a woman, she just made a guy and made him look like ezio. Thats your female audience. Good story regardless of gender politics.
True. What women want to see is not a girl boss elbowing men twice their size in the face, they want to see themselves being violently dominated by an alpha male.
Yep. Good to hear it, too. I stopped paying for Assassin's Creed games several releases ago. Hope AC Shadows fails hardcore. It's basically DEI: The Game.
@@brandongray1059 exactly. She was really pretty too. So had plenty of things better to do than game, but she loved AC franchise. She doesn't play it anymore because as you said, it's become DEI the game. So in trying to make it more inclusive, they managed to get her to stop playing 🤣
They came up with a "great" concept for sagas: Indiana Jones WITHOUT Indiana Jones, Star Wars WITHOUT Luke Skywalker, Mad Max WITHOUT Mad Max, Mandalorian WITHOUT Mandalorian, and so on...
Well, you miss the point, it is a movie that lectures and does not entertain. Whoever thought that the one thing most of us are missing in our daily lives is having some schoolmarm lecture us on irrelevant things we don't care about?
My wife and I love going to the theater. It really helps when there are movies we want to see. One whiff of "THE MESSAGE" and we're done. Absolutely will not tolerate woke bullshit. I personally hate streaming due to a lot of technical glitches. We are happily adding to our DVD/Blu-ray collection on a regular basis.
Good, get DVDs for stuff that you like and are actually good, not this inclusively/"updated for modern audiences" garbage that preaches instead of doing what it was supposed to do: entertain.
Just remember..... Blackrock and Vanguard funding these movies.... You think that money comes out of thin air? Thats YOUR stock portfolio and 401k going down the drain with all these DEI mandates in movies. They dont care if it flops - theyre spending your money to make them in the first place. Thats why theyre laughing. Thats why they wont stop.
Once more it is time to point out: Representation does not matter in fiction. What matters is _relatability_ . It is not seeing yourself in the characters, it is seeing the characters in you. And in society as a whole.
Furiosa was great. If you want great action movies, you should have supported it. Don't complain about there not being great movies when great movies are there, you just don't want to support them
“@SamtheBravesFan” your statement here is pretty ironic considering Zack has basically become what he built his whole channel and career criticizing. He is gaslighting people on what they actually like and trying to get them to pay for products that they don’t won’t because their opinions are wrong or not even their own. He has become a disingenuous hypocrite and he doesn’t even realize that. It gets even more pathetic because he still criticizes all the woke comics and creators, stuff he cares about, but every other woke media garbage is fine a everyone should shut up and just consume. Sadly, even though I actually like Zack and think he is a good guy and good comic creator, he has become obsessed with this “anti anti-sjw” crusade. I think it will cost him a lot of customers and ultimately harm his dream job.
It was absolutely not a girl boss film. But, because Hollywood makes so many of those, some people assume every movie with a woman in it, is a girl boss movie. Hollywood did that to themselves. The backlash will be that no movies will ever have a female lead again.
Furiosa is everything that felt was missing or deliberately left out in Fury Road. Places referred or even shimmering on the horizon, are now visited and their inner workings exposed. It's such a satisfying movie in that sense.
The Acolyte is not tormenting me at all, because I haven't seen it. I'm enjoying the pain expressed by those who've suffered to review it, though! I salute your courage and fortitude!
Your reasoning is as sounds as always, Andre. I really, really don’t get how so many people in Hollywood can’t understand this, and quite frankly people desperately seem to fishing around for any other excuse. It’s costing them tons of money. Pretty soon, it may cost them their very existence.
Furiosa's domestic boxoffice is at $64 mil after a $2.6 mil weekend. The film may not reach $70 mil. That is disastrous given the films $168 mil budget.
It is not that bad. It will make about $200 million box office alone so plus DVD sales and rentals it'll add another $150 million so it'll break even at least.
@@jonfreeman9682 No it won't. Furiosa has a reported budget of $168 mil with marketing cost of about half that at $80 mil. Theaters get about half the ticket sales. So Furiosa would need to earn about $420 mil to break even. It currently sits at $161 mil worldwide. Since it was a flop in theaters whether it will be a big seller on DVD remains to be seen.
This is so spot on for me sad to say. I am so fed up with girlbosses and agenda driven movies. I go to watch a great story with well written characters, not the agenda of the writer/director.
You make some great points. I am one of those females who likes male franchises: Star Wars, Terminator, X-men, Mortal Kombat, MCU, Aliens, Star Trek, horror movies in general. I like the male hero as much as the old-school female hero--I did not care about the gender nearly as much as the character. I loved imagining myself as Rogue or Ripley, but certainly had fun watching Thor or Luke Skywalker kicking butt and relate to them as well. But now, when I see a female lead, I roll my eyes because I don't trust the studio to have made her into a well-rounded character with flaws, who struggles, who has to learn and grow, and Heaven forbid she has a male spiritual guide or--oh, no!--a male love interest. Um...I like a little sprinkle of sugar in my action movies, because, you know--I'm a girl! Why is this bad now???
Anyone outside the Hollywood bubble could've told the studio that made the Furiosa movie that Furiosa has never been a popular character. She barely even made the least bit of a cultural imprint when she debuted in 2015, and 9 years later she's completely irrelevant. Not deserving of her own movie in the slightest, despite how many boxes she checks.
If they wanted Furiosa they should have been SMARTER and simply brought back gibson and theron being old as shit versus a newer younger breed of road warriors.
Godzilla Minus One wasn't something you could easily get for about half a year. It exited theaters in January and wasn't easily able until June, by which point audiences were antsy for it and it's since topped the charts on Netflix. People were annoyed at the time but keeping it scarce for half a year built up hype.
The movie is more about exploring the society, or what passes for it, on the wasteland in which Fury Road is set. Hemsworth's Dementus is a boss caught between the three major fortifications and what follows is a game of political musical chairs as he goes from one to other creating a giant mess of a relatively stable political situation.
In my long boring life I’ve noticed this. A good movie is coming out and my friends and coworkers start looking forward to seeing it. They even plan on going as a group for opening day. So these 7 guys go and watch it. I don’t remember a group of girls or an individual being a part of that. The only time I remember girls going to watch movies is with their boyfriend or husband. This is only my belief but I can confidently stand by it. Especially in the last 25 years with all the monster blockbusters that have been released. So making movies that are aimed towards ladies & LGBT and not everyone is a death wish in my eyes.
At my local theater, a group of grandmas get together and have a ladies night out watching a movie together in theaters every so often. It’s like 7 of them taking up an isle. Pretty cool to see the grandmas enjoying a movie.
Personally, I didn't really hate on this movie. I just wasn't really that interested in it. I'm tired of sequels for the most part really and from what I read online about it, it just didn't appeal to me. There was an element of a lack of faith in big AAA Hollywood movies, which I rarely go out to see much anymore, with a few exceptions here and there. I'm much more of a fan of indie smaller production movies these days.
Well it's not a bad movie as George Miller knows how to direct big action blockbusters. This is basically fast and furious in the desert. But yeah I get it's kinda same ol' same ol' as it's not that different from the last one.
@@jonfreeman9682 That's a fair statement. I guess though I felt Furiosa's story was already told in Fury road, which was more about her than Max, who played a periphery role really. I just didn't need to see another movie about her (or at least not where she's the main character). Still, I'll probably see it on streaming some time. At least for the action scenes. Which are probably awesome.
Having personal taste is still seen as a problem if you aren't easily brainwashable or blindly eat whatever visual slop they give you. Its good to like things that resonate with you, but you'd still been seen as "toxic" or "the problem" since you have tastes that differ from what certain people want you to want, and have no desire to watch something that starts with "The Message" and ends with "Being insane is good and all men are evil". I say just keep liking whatever you like.
I really miss being able to actually own my movies with a physical copy. They want to keep us on streaming so they can edit movies at a later date and then gaslight us when we call them out for the edits!
@@jonfreeman9682 apparently you haven’t been paying attention. They DO edit movies. Disney edited the scene in A New Hope where Han shoots Greedo to add a completely unnecessary line of dialogue from Greedo that doesn’t change the subtitle translation. Other films have also received edits. Even The Lord of the Rings had a few inexplicable changes to the lighting filter in certain scenes in the 4K release. So yes, movies do sometimes get edited.
@@John-fk2kyThat newly added Greedo's line was added by George Lucas before he sold Lucasfilm to Disney (but after Star Wars came out on bly ray in 2011). There's so much to blame on Disney, but this isn't one of those things.
@@wisehippo3072yes I’m well aware that you can. However, it is getting more difficult to find blu-ray copies as the brick-and-mortar stores are carrying fewer and fewer items in stock. The only way to get a physical copy these days it seems is through mail-order/online sales. Which is the very sad thing.
I saw Mad Max sidelined in "Fury Road" before the Girl-Bosses-Who-Don't-Need-No-Man appeared in every movie. The film had great practical effects, but Max was a side character in a film bearing his name. I wasn't very impressed with the Furiosa character then, and I'm not interested in an origin story for her now. That she isn't exactly a Girl-Boss-Who-Don't-Need-No-Man in another film (which also bears Max's name) is immaterial to me. It's just sad that George Miller ruined his own franchise rather than someone else doing it. Either way the results are the same.
Furiosa was conceived in the early 2000's and Tom Hardy was such an absolute d!ck during filming he actually apologized to the cast and crew afterwards.
Except Max was *always* the wandering stranger, was *vital* to Fury Road and Furiosa wasn't *remotely* close to being a 'girlboss.' 'That she isn't exactly a Girl-Boss-Who-Don't-Need-No-Man in another film (which also bears Max's name) is immaterial to me.' That this isn't an example of what you're talking about doesn't matter to you-- sounds familiar.
@@jonfreeman9682 Tom Hardy was an absolute pain to work with, He even apologized for his moody temper and showing up late to shoots and bickering with Charlize Theron. The biggest girl on the Mad Max set was him by all accounts. And Furiosa was a movie conceived in the early 2000's as the creator was pitching his idea for Fury Road. Waaaaaay before the girl boss era.
Meanwhile Five Nights At Freddys, "Hey we realeased both in streaming and theaters, boom, insta box office win", so whats the moral lesson here?, people are sick of movies made with an agenda or that they look they will change something to push that agenda. FNAF production, "Oh we hope to make something that the players will like", web pages don say anithing, people gave it a chance, Furiosa production nobody says anithing, web pages, F"uriosa will take on the theaters with feminine power", people didnt care to see it.
Five nights is different though. It had the added benefit of video game fanbase just like Mario Bros. There was a time when video game adaptations into movies were all terrible and bombed but lately they've been hits. Even TV shows based on games like fallout have done really well. And movies based on toys like Barbie and transformers still continue to do well. Even movies based off mobile game angry birds did really well. So the moral of the lesson is makes movies off popular games.
@@franciscomap75 These guys are exposing themselves. They don't want to see any action movie with a female lead no matter how good the movie is. Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga is a really good movie and they still refuse to see it. Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga will have the last laugh though because it's such a fantastic film it's almost guaranteed to become a cult classic.
@@dannyknightblade4592 agree and you know what is worse, I also don’t like woke movies and movies with girl bosses and Mary sues, but this isn’t one of them
Good comparison. Hollywood, like the AAA gaming industry needs to go under for a while. It's the only way to jettison the woke whackadoodles who are running around vandalizing franchises people care about.
They are tanking physical medias sales too by not putting them out in stores either. Once they end theaters and physical versions, I'll never see another new film again.
Studios by and large have decided that they would rather put their movies on streaming services to encourage subscribers to pay in regularly rather than a one time purchase. The death of physical media isn’t a bug it’s a feature.
There’s another side to this equation, though. I asked one of the guys in the electronic section at Walmart why they have DVDs, but almost no Blu-rays. I asked the folks at Best Buy why they had deleted what used to be the most extensive DVD section of any store in town. They both had the same answer: they said it was because they didn’t sell. So I can’t say that the studios are tanking physical media sales, or if they’re responding to a lack of demand, because people prefer streaming or digital releases. I know folks who got rid of their physical media collections because they have all their movies on some digital service and liked having that whole wall back that used to be shelves of VHS tapes and DVDs.
I don't blame people for being wary of these shows and movies. Lately my brain has also been conditioned into automatically assuming the worst of everything that comes out. Even with films with directors who I know aren't like that. I hope that one day it can go back to how it was before, back when we just had fun
Perhaps there are so many bad female-Ied films because studios keep putting out sub-par ones the 80s Supergirl film and string of comic book films in the 90s..
The 90s gave us two fantastic comic book movies in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Blade. Or maybe that was just new line cinema that gave us two great comic book movies.
Well girl boss movies can make money. Big time. Just look at Barbie, captain Marvel , WW 1, black Panther 2, black widow and even Fury Road did $400 million which is pretty darn good for an old IP.
Really, the female lead isn't the problem. It's recognized as a red flag now. The deeper problem is the woke hollywood culture in general. They disrespect the past, they disrespect the canon, they disrespect the fans. Why would I want to see anything that is made by a bunch of cultural vandals?
@@jonfreeman9682 Barbie isn’t a girl boss in the general sense of the term. Captain Marvel was released between Infinity War and Endgame; its sequel crashed. Black Panther 2 underperformed from the original despite the boost from inflation and the opening being a tribute to the original Black Panther who had died. And $400,000,000 isn’t that impressive given what a ticket costs these days.
I have no problem with going to the theater to see a movie I’m interested in. But I’m also perfectly willing to let any film or franchise burn to the ground. Hollywood conditioned the audience to apathy being the first response not waiting for a movie to arrive on streaming.
They've been doing that for a long time. Ghostbusters 2016 was when the practice became known mainstream, but it's really just a modern extension of yellow journalism.
I never understood the thinking behind studios wanting to set up their own streaming services. There is little to no money in it and it has totally destroyed physical media sales which used to make them a lot of money on an IP long after its release. The idea of putting movies on streaming literally weeks after theatrical release is also cannibalising their box office especially in a cost of living crisis. No, streaming has been a huge own goal for Hollywood.
The logic is there. If they have tons of subscribers that pay every month, they could get a stable source of income and more money in the long run. The problem is everybody thought the same and decided to make their own streaming. Because not every service can survive they spend tons of money in new content to attract subscribers. This lost them money and saturated the market with bad movies and series. This also trained customers to stop paying until something good comes out, so the constant income of subscriptions also was affected.
@@juan0808 Even a simple analysis would have told them the market would become saturated and the most likely outcome would be huge losses. Their arrogance inflated the value of their content and they ignored reality. Any stock market trader could have told them they were losing objectivity as this is one thing that traders also have to be very wary of. They would have been much better just leveraging the current streaming providers to licence content. That would have given them a steady income stream at almost no cost. They got greedy and weren't as smart as they thought they were.
@@jonfreeman9682 There is only money in being an established streaming service, Netflix lost money for years before getting to a critical mass where they could offer enough content to get mass appeal. New shows are the only thing that really drive subscriptions and making decent new shows is extremely expensive.
You hit the nail on the head, but there's another big reason people didn't bother seeing it - we just don't care. We're not interested in putting in the time for another cookie-cutter product.
The studios need to commit to a theatrical release of 3 months and then don’t release on streaming until 6 months. Make box office money, give people a reason to watch it in theaters, and make streaming worthwhile waiting for last summer’s blockbusters to come out at Christmas
You, my friend, have common sense. These people are morons. In an effort to control the media we wat h they've s rewed themselves. Tubing has a larger market share now and duhsney paid for it. Turner and the people at comcast are laughing their assed off. They made iger look like a fool who only knows how to spend other people's money. No wonder he wanted to be president. Access to everyone money. 😢😢
Year. There needs to be a year between theatrical and streaming, and that could be extended based on popularity and the sales of other formats such as Physical sales and vid on demand sales.
@@joshuastoughton1693 People are willing to go to theaters, and pay for streaming IF your first condition is met: The content is worth paying for. Too often it isn’t, and nothing will help that. High seas types aren’t even stealing The Acolyte LOL
The problem with a theatrical release of 3 months is that, when the movie stinks and drives away audiences, as it so often does these days, keeping it on the screens just hurts the theaters.
My wife has admitted that she likes the leading men in movies. She doesn’t want to see a Mary Sue female boss lady. There are countless movies with an action female lead that don’t elevate her by putting down the male characters. Until Hollywood understands that, they will continue to put out bad movies and shows.
@@nicholasrockall7308 , My personal favorite is Aliens. The only guy made to be really stupid is the greedy corporation guy. The Lieutenant is just green and does the most character growth of anyone during the movie. Ripley's character is show as trying to over come her fear, but doesn't want to sit around when someone is in trouble. The entire end fight is her alone, because everyone else was injured. That is a hero that anyone can identify with. But I agree La Femme Nikita and Joan of Arc are also good examples.
If the Barbie Movie and "Inside Out 2" doing exceptionally well, it's clear a film that appeals to women can do very well. However, if you try to make the kind of action film that appeals to a primarily male audience, but attempt to make it more women centered, not enough men or women will show up to buy tickets, to make the film successful.
I don't think it's the streaming-too-soon that's undermining the box office. People don't go to theaters simply because they get movies first - they go there because they're willing to pay for the big-screen experience for seeing big-screen movies. The problem is, Hollywood isn't making enough good blockbusters, and theaters are charging so much it is driving away casual moviegoers.
With how Inside Out 2 is killing it at the box office, the Disney excuse of people don't go to theaters anymore or how the audience is trained to wait for streaming just falls apart. People don't want to watch blatantly woke shit.
@@bassage13, is the movie good? What makes a good movie for one person may not be good for the next person. I’m not getting a Disney+ subscription for at least another 3 years. I had Disney+ during the lock downs for 3 months. My wife and I bookmarked everything we wanted to see. Watched it all in two and a half months. Reviewed the catalog again for anything new. Watched those few shows and canceled. This movie is not something I would sign up for Disney+ to see. I’m not interested in the subject matter of the story.
1) Female protagonist 2) Prequel If there's anything that stops guys from buying tickets to movies, it's those 2 things. You can cope about Sarah Connor and Ellen Ripley all you want but they are the extreme exception, not the rule.
Since theater prices are so high and movie quality so inconsistent, people like myself can only afford to go once or twice a year - and then only if it is a movie I want to see and it has been getting good reviews. We used to be able to take a risk on a smaller movie because it didn't cost much but can't risk wasting $100 just to see a movie with my wife that might be bad.
I for one am tired of girl boss movies. I am not saying there were not good female lead movies, aliens, terminator come to mind, but all these movies are force feeding us women bosses. If it isn't girl bosses it is race swapped characters for inclusion purposes. I do not want to see a movie with black scandanavian vikings or a black queen of England. Tire of the woke DEI.
I was exactly the audience you are talking about. I didn't go to see this intentionally at the movies. And by the time that I learned, from videos such as this one, that the movie itself was actually quite good, then it was far too late for me, or anyone I knew, to go see it at the movies. Thank you for another informative video. Cheers from Australia.
Real girl boss don't give no shits about your money, your culture, your opinion, your logic (above all else)... real girl boss just needs your subservience.
Well it's set in the mad Max universe. Not sure why Tom Hardy didn't come back but his was supposed to be a prequel. I think it's poor marketing. But fans should support this or you won't get anymore mad Max movies. George Miller has a script for two more sequels but if this bombs then that's it. The franchise won't be coming back.
@@jonfreeman9682 I could not disagree more. I once thought like that, so I understand where it comes from. However, after seeing reboot after reboot get the Hollywood treatment and damage the IPs they were supposed to celebrate and expand, I have changed my mind. I would rather the classics remain untouched and preserved for future generations, rather than undermined and desecrated by "creative reinterpretations" and woke messaging being forced into them by ideologues who don't care about the franchises that they've inherited. There are fates worse than death. Let the old franchises that have run their course lie.
For half the movie Furiosa was portrayed by a child actress, exceptionally gifted. It felt like she could carry most of the story if they kept Furiosa a bit younger throughout (and obviously ditched the romance part).
It sucks that we’ve been waterboarded with the forced strong female protagonist because furiosa was actually a kickass movie. Everyone just assumed this movie was gonna be another mary sue girl boss movie. It was more about expanding and explaining how immortan joe’s empire functions. Furiosa’s revenge story isn’t till the end of the movie. And she’s not the typical good at everything female lead everyone was expecting. Like she plays a support role in almost every fight. And the movie is well aware that any woman would easily be overpowered by the average wasteland raider which is why they made her a sniper. She has to be taught everything she knows in fury road and the most standout thing for me was that she has so sit out the biggest battle in the movie simply because she’s too wounded to participate. Disney writers would never have their female lead sit out on the final battle let alone let them take enough damage to cripple them. The movie is worth watching just for the war rig chase in the middle with the Octoboss’s gang
Hollywood ruined a family tradition. So, my uncle has lived out of state most of my life. Whenever he came home for the holidays, hed have us 4 nephews agree on what movie we wanted to go see, and we all would. The prequel trilogy, the first 2 toy story movies, I even saw my first boobies in Starship Troopers with him. Hes coming out to visit me in a few days. Asked me if I wanted to see a movie. We both agreed, that there is nothing we want to see. This was one of my favorite traditions. I rarely got to go to the movies as a boy. I loved the excited conversations we'd have after. Fuck Hollywood.
I had faith in George Miller to deliver another great outing in the Mad Max world. As soon as I saw it featured a girl bosswhen the first teaser appeared, I checked it off my list. I've had my fill of that.
Well not all girl boss is bad. It has to be done right. Thor 4 is an example of what not to do where girl boss and kid boss saves Thor. Just terrible. But here she's not totally girl boss and had help. Give it a chance. You might enjoy it.
I understand not wanting to see a Mad Max movie without Mad Max, but George Miller made a great movie with Furiosa. She was not at all a girl boss in the move, and Chris Hemsorth's Dementus was great. The sad part is this movie flopping may doom the third movie George Miller was talking about making being a conclusion to Max's saga with an "old man Max". But I understand not wanting to take a chance on a girl boss bait and switch. Check this movie out on streaming, or sail the seas. If you are a George Miller fan you will like it.
@RenlangRen Where did you read that he wanted to do an old man Max story? I read that he said he had no ideas for that. His next Mad Max movie would've been another prequel, this time starring Max played by Hardy.
Furiosa was a good movie tho i paid to watch it my brothers girlfriend waked out she said she couldn't follow the story that made it a 10/10 for me she has the worst taste
Agreed had a convo with several agents and managers at the bafta screening of this film. Streaming is cannibalizing the feature business after digesting TV and breaking that model. It’s reversible.
Furiosa is a good example of a movie I figured I’d wait to see for free on streaming…was lightly interested but not interested enough to go see it at the theatre and spend $50-75
Honestly yea. I heard buzzwords saw the "girlboss" poster and thought here we go again. Wrote it off and just didn't go watch it. Wasn't till I saw kojima saying good things about it that I gave it a chance. I would 100% have made more money if the well hadn't been poisoned.
Yeah, I thought it was going to be another Mary Sue movie, so I didn't go and I'm a huge Mad Max fan. I'll probably wait till I go streaming to watch it now.
I was one of those who didn't give _Furiosa_ a chance, even before any reviews came out. But it wasn't due to fear of it being a girl-boss movie. It was because I didn't care for _Fury Road._ I watched it once and felt no need to see any more. I never watched it again. I never felt like watching it again. I don't regret never watching it again. So why would pay to see this one?
I think Furiosa did fine for a sequel/prequel of a movie that made roughly it's money back Domestically and a little over double it's budget world wide. It made about half the money the original did which is very common for most franchises. They simply spent way to much money on the sequel/prequel. Some how believing it would do better.
I think Furiosa looked cool enough to check out at some point, but since I'm on limited income it would be more likely to be by picking up a used copy of the DVD at the local used media store. But with everyone in Hollywood cramming themselves onto the Titantic that is called streaming, there likely won't be a physical copy to buy, so i just won't see it. A shame really. The original Mad Max movies weren't big budget flicks, they were lower budget with lower expectations that for a variety of reasons, not the least being Mel Gibson as the title character, ended up becoming a phenomenon with a large cult following that became very successful over time. If Hollywood reversed course to being smart and pragmatic, they'd focus on doing more lower budget films that have the potential for great success because they'd put their money on hiring one or two actually talented writers for a project, getting great actors and skilled directors, and then hoping for a surprise runaway hit that struck a chord with the wider populations. Instead they spend a hundred million plus on a narrowly targeted project that appeals to the claimed liked of a very narrow audience (i.e. other people in Hollywood) and then are shocked when no one else wants to see it. Furiosa deserves better perhaps. And perhaps, like the original, people will watch it on cable or several friends gather and put it on as background noise and be drawn into it and then maybe it'll become unexpectedly successful in the years after its release. It's a much better bet than the one Hollywood has made on it.
In the days before home play, it was often three or more years before the feature made it to OTA. More recently it was months, maybe 6 or 8, until recordings became available. But if it's weeks, there's little reason to buy the theater ticket.
Honestly, “Game of Thrones” was already about 85 percent girl bossy. Tyrion starts off being clever but then just wants to placate the women in his life. Rob Stark bows and bends to his mother’s will and gets killed being stupid. Jaime is driven by his sister. Strong women - Daenerys, Sansa, Cersei, Arya, etc - drive the story. I like strong women but I’d like the guys to have a spine of their own too.
@@coloradospacegeek4226 season 1 was not but then beginning in season 2 you are absolutely correct it became an intersectionally feminist show more with every season. And it's frustrating because the books are not like that at all.
furiosa was awesome... some comments from people they wanted mad max back not a girl lead ..movie was good enough they can still make another mad max film and bring in mad max
Can we talk about just how awful the theater experience is? You pay a ton of money for tickets, God help you if you want drinks and popcorn too. Then you have about a 40% chance of some B.S. at the theater completely ruining the experience. Why risk all that? The drinks and popcorn are cheap at my house and my big ass TV works just fine.
What was their master plan with streaming anyway? Did they think people would buy movie tickets at the same rate, subscribe to 10 services simultaneously, and still buy the blu-ray? Because that's the only way that this model could have worked out.
I think the reason why women check out of girl-bosses movies quicker than men is because, those of us watching these action films in the first place already grew up with female-inclusive stories, whether it was from watching shows like the X-Files and Farscape or films like Aliens and Red Sonja. Additionally, we know these Girl Boss films come from a place of narcissism and virtue signaling more than telling a good story. A woman has less tolerance for that kind of bullshit than a man (who, let's be real, will typically stick around for the explosions 😄). But I think the main reason why Girl Boss films push us the wrong way comes down to the definition and implementation of today's 'strong female character'. Whereas strong male characters are allowed to have flaws and gain their strength/charm from hardships and mistakes, the strong female character MUST be perfect in every way. She is the Disney Princess amplified by ten, full of virtue. Her strength doesn't come from hardships and mistakes. Rather, the entire game is simply rigged in her favor, from male buffoons who just can't keep up with her, to her obtaining power without having to work for it. She really has no agency to call her own because she isn't allowed to make shitty decisions and suffer any consequences from it. For me, the most disrespectable thing you can do to a woman is treat her like a baby, manipulating her environment with electric plug covers and layers of soft padding so she won't hurt herself. That's how Hollywood is treating us right now. Hollywood doesn't think we're emotionally mature enough to handle complex female characters (with good/bad traits) or strong enough to climb up the social ladder on our own. As a result, we get these Baby Girl Boss films inadvertently look down at us. And to add salt to the wound, we're expected to APPLAUD these efforts. The very term 'Mary Sue' originated from female fanfic readers/writers who were just as equally annoyed and frustrated by Baby Girl Boss stories. In fact, the harshest criticism in fanfic websites of the 2000s CAME from women. So is it really a surprise that we quickly check out when we smell bullshit in the air?
Furiosa was an amazing film. I don't know what it has to do with all this wave of hating on hollywood, but all i know is it was a great film. Made by a great director who raised alot of the money himself cause this was his vision. I mean he is nearly 80 years old. Just leave Furiosa out of all this mess.
A lot of these RUclips reviewers are losing credibility with me. They're so quick to label any action movie with a female lead as "woke" or "girlboss" or "Mary Sue" that they call movies that that don't even fit that description. I've heard people claim Furiosa beats up a group of big powerful men single handed which doesn't even happen in the movie! A lot of these dudes are celebrating Furiosa's financial failure as if it sends a message to hollyweird to not make woke movies. Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga isn't woke so this movie not doing well isn't the win for anti sjws that numerous anti sjws claim it is.
I will check it out if it's on one of the services I am subscribed to. I really don't care anymore if Hollywood crashes down. There is a market for good, big budget movies, so if Hollywood dies, then there is an opportunity for another provider to be built up. If they are that stupid, they deserve it. If I get some movies out of the subscriptions I already pay for, I will take it.
@@snakeplisken8665 Mad Max still exists in The Mad Max universe. Furiosa didn't replace Max. Just because Furiosa got her own prequel movie doesn't mean Mad Max no longer exists.
Guilty. I saw a Furiosa trailer and thought more gender swapped nonsense and just didn't bother. I would have gone to see an old man Mel Gibson Mad Max, though.
Excellent summary of most probable reasons for this early movie perceived and actual financial failure. - I could t agree more - I trust the truth will rise in the future to show that this was gravely miss marketed and mistimed release of a great movie. -- many great movies bombed initially until the truth was realized. Scarface and Zoolander are good examples but there are many many others
Perfect Example, I had no interest in going to see the Expendables in theater, and was content on waiting for it to release on DVD when it was coming out, but my Wife really wanted to go see it for date night because she thought it would be a really fun one, so We went to that one specifically because my wife asked me to and it was awesome and fun, loved it
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4 minutes of BS and for a company why claims ownership over your DNA if you use them. Nice.
@@DelightfulTyrant They also lost all their data to a leak a few years back. So your DNA along with your entire extended family can be on the darknet, too.
@@DelightfulTyrant Yeah, these ridiculous ad reads are making me and thousands of others unsubscribe to channels like this.
its another act, its not 4 real circus and bread
The problem with tricking audiences into watching propaganda is that they eventually get wise and stop watching altogether.
The reality thus destroying any chance for future films that are not those.
@@frankgesuele6298 It's already happening . . . a lot of people aren't worried about missing what could be a good movie anymore.
I have a female friend who really likes assassins creed, played all of them for years. Ezio was her favorite character from his journey in the early games.
When they made newer games, where you can play as a woman, she just made a guy and made him look like ezio.
Thats your female audience. Good story regardless of gender politics.
True. What women want to see is not a girl boss elbowing men twice their size in the face, they want to see themselves being violently dominated by an alpha male.
Yep. Good to hear it, too. I stopped paying for Assassin's Creed games several releases ago. Hope AC Shadows fails hardcore. It's basically DEI: The Game.
Is she straight?
@@brandongray1059 exactly. She was really pretty too. So had plenty of things better to do than game, but she loved AC franchise.
She doesn't play it anymore because as you said, it's become DEI the game. So in trying to make it more inclusive, they managed to get her to stop playing 🤣
They're are very few out there but yes, female gamers for most part will take the good looking hero dude with a dark past over a girl boss weirdo.
They came up with a "great" concept for sagas: Indiana Jones WITHOUT Indiana Jones, Star Wars WITHOUT Luke Skywalker, Mad Max WITHOUT Mad Max, Mandalorian WITHOUT Mandalorian, and so on...
Well, you miss the point, it is a movie that lectures and does not entertain. Whoever thought that the one thing most of us are missing in our daily lives is having some schoolmarm lecture us on irrelevant things we don't care about?
My wife and I love going to the theater. It really helps when there are movies we want to see. One whiff of "THE MESSAGE" and we're done. Absolutely will not tolerate woke bullshit. I personally hate streaming due to a lot of technical glitches. We are happily adding to our DVD/Blu-ray collection on a regular basis.
But you can ignore the message and just enjoy the movie.
Good, get DVDs for stuff that you like and are actually good, not this inclusively/"updated for modern audiences" garbage that preaches instead of doing what it was supposed to do: entertain.
Just remember..... Blackrock and Vanguard funding these movies.... You think that money comes out of thin air? Thats YOUR stock portfolio and 401k going down the drain with all these DEI mandates in movies. They dont care if it flops - theyre spending your money to make them in the first place. Thats why theyre laughing. Thats why they wont stop.
Don't be a knob. You have no idea where the money is coming from.
@@SamtheBravesFan have you noticed, that everything becomes more expensive while the quality is dropping?
there is your answer.
Good for them than. Furiosa was awesome. Also my 401k has done great this year as has my crypto
@@kendallandrews8691Shills are the first to go when tyrants take over. Enjoy while you can!
And you know who partially funds these companies? YOU DO. Through your taxes, because governments (All of them) fund these investment firms.
Streaming has become everything Hollywood incorrectly feared VHS would be back in the day.
Once more it is time to point out: Representation does not matter in fiction. What matters is _relatability_ . It is not seeing yourself in the characters, it is seeing the characters in you. And in society as a whole.
This is what Zack doesn’t get, it wasn’t the fans that caused Furosia’s demise, it was Hollywood that did it.
I can understand him being mad about people who act like those they criticize, but that doesn't mean people disliking Furiosa was born from it.
Furiosa was great. If you want great action movies, you should have supported it. Don't complain about there not being great movies when great movies are there, you just don't want to support them
I refuse to watch any warrior girl movies. period.
@@kendallandrews8691It was a redundant film.
“@SamtheBravesFan” your statement here is pretty ironic considering Zack has basically become what he built his whole channel and career criticizing. He is gaslighting people on what they actually like and trying to get them to pay for products that they don’t won’t because their opinions are wrong or not even their own. He has become a disingenuous hypocrite and he doesn’t even realize that. It gets even more pathetic because he still criticizes all the woke comics and creators, stuff he cares about, but every other woke media garbage is fine a everyone should shut up and just consume.
Sadly, even though I actually like Zack and think he is a good guy and good comic creator, he has become obsessed with this “anti anti-sjw” crusade. I think it will cost him a lot of customers and ultimately harm his dream job.
It was definitely the fact that it looked like another girl-boss film, that I didn’t give it a second look.
Same.
It was absolutely not a girl boss film. But, because Hollywood makes so many of those, some people assume every movie with a woman in it, is a girl boss movie. Hollywood did that to themselves. The backlash will be that no movies will ever have a female lead again.
Furiosa is everything that felt was missing or deliberately left out in Fury Road. Places referred or even shimmering on the horizon, are now visited and their inner workings exposed. It's such a satisfying movie in that sense.
@@bassage13exactly this! It was reviews from people I respect that got me into the theater. It was great and in no way woke! It was great!
The Acolyte is not tormenting me at all, because I haven't seen it. I'm enjoying the pain expressed by those who've suffered to review it, though! I salute your courage and fortitude!
Your reasoning is as sounds as always, Andre. I really, really don’t get how so many people in Hollywood can’t understand this, and quite frankly people desperately seem to fishing around for any other excuse. It’s costing them tons of money. Pretty soon, it may cost them their very existence.
Furiosa's domestic boxoffice is at $64 mil after a $2.6 mil weekend. The film may not reach $70 mil. That is disastrous given the films $168 mil budget.
It is not that bad. It will make about $200 million box office alone so plus DVD sales and rentals it'll add another $150 million so it'll break even at least.
@@jonfreeman9682 No it won't. Furiosa has a reported budget of $168 mil with marketing cost of about half that at $80 mil. Theaters get about half the ticket sales. So Furiosa would need to earn about $420 mil to break even. It currently sits at $161 mil worldwide. Since it was a flop in theaters whether it will be a big seller on DVD remains to be seen.
40% of the budget was subsidized by the australian budget
Just because a movie isn't a big box office hit doesn't mean it's bad. Mission Impossible: Dead Reckoning Part One also flopped at the box office.
@@dannyknightblade4592 Dead Reckoning was good up until the end. The ending was terrible.
This is so spot on for me sad to say. I am so fed up with girlbosses and agenda driven movies. I go to watch a great story with well written characters, not the agenda of the writer/director.
You make some great points. I am one of those females who likes male franchises: Star Wars, Terminator, X-men, Mortal Kombat, MCU, Aliens, Star Trek, horror movies in general. I like the male hero as much as the old-school female hero--I did not care about the gender nearly as much as the character. I loved imagining myself as Rogue or Ripley, but certainly had fun watching Thor or Luke Skywalker kicking butt and relate to them as well. But now, when I see a female lead, I roll my eyes because I don't trust the studio to have made her into a well-rounded character with flaws, who struggles, who has to learn and grow, and Heaven forbid she has a male spiritual guide or--oh, no!--a male love interest. Um...I like a little sprinkle of sugar in my action movies, because, you know--I'm a girl! Why is this bad now???
Anyone outside the Hollywood bubble could've told the studio that made the Furiosa movie that Furiosa has never been a popular character. She barely even made the least bit of a cultural imprint when she debuted in 2015, and 9 years later she's completely irrelevant. Not deserving of her own movie in the slightest, despite how many boxes she checks.
Well the last movie did $400 million box office so that's pretty decent money.
@@jonfreeman9682 decent maybe in 2005...
@@jonfreeman9682the thing is, Fury Road was good a whole, taking just Furiosa alone wasn't going to make it
Did she even get nude?
If they wanted Furiosa they should have been SMARTER and simply brought back gibson and theron being old as shit versus a newer younger breed of road warriors.
Godzilla Minus One wasn't something you could easily get for about half a year. It exited theaters in January and wasn't easily able until June, by which point audiences were antsy for it and it's since topped the charts on Netflix.
People were annoyed at the time but keeping it scarce for half a year built up hype.
Didn’t see it as we’ve already had a Mad Max film about Furiosa, didn’t need to see another
Exactly my thoughts.
But this is a prequel about her origin. How she became a fearsome girl boss warrior.
@@jonfreeman9682We already didn't want to see it, you don't need to warn us any further.
The movie is more about exploring the society, or what passes for it, on the wasteland in which Fury Road is set. Hemsworth's Dementus is a boss caught between the three major fortifications and what follows is a game of political musical chairs as he goes from one to other creating a giant mess of a relatively stable political situation.
@@jonfreeman9682 Describe all the ways in which Furiosa is a 'girlboss' in either movie.
In my long boring life I’ve noticed this. A good movie is coming out and my friends and coworkers start looking forward to seeing it. They even plan on going as a group for opening day. So these 7 guys go and watch it. I don’t remember a group of girls or an individual being a part of that. The only time I remember girls going to watch movies is with their boyfriend or husband. This is only my belief but I can confidently stand by it. Especially in the last 25 years with all the monster blockbusters that have been released. So making movies that are aimed towards ladies & LGBT and not everyone is a death wish in my eyes.
I do know a couple of female movie buffs but they too complain that they're an exception and either have to bring a guy to the theater or go alone.
At my local theater, a group of grandmas get together and have a ladies night out watching a movie together in theaters every so often. It’s like 7 of them taking up an isle. Pretty cool to see the grandmas enjoying a movie.
Personally, I didn't really hate on this movie.
I just wasn't really that interested in it. I'm tired of sequels for the most part really and from what I read online about it, it just didn't appeal to me.
There was an element of a lack of faith in big AAA Hollywood movies, which I rarely go out to see much anymore, with a few exceptions here and there.
I'm much more of a fan of indie smaller production movies these days.
Well it's not a bad movie as George Miller knows how to direct big action blockbusters. This is basically fast and furious in the desert. But yeah I get it's kinda same ol' same ol' as it's not that different from the last one.
Yea i enjoyed it. I think the combo of a long running time and R rating killed it
@@jonfreeman9682 That's a fair statement.
I guess though I felt Furiosa's story was already told in Fury road, which was more about her than Max, who played a periphery role really.
I just didn't need to see another movie about her (or at least not where she's the main character).
Still, I'll probably see it on streaming some time. At least for the action scenes. Which are probably awesome.
Having personal taste is still seen as a problem if you aren't easily brainwashable or blindly eat whatever visual slop they give you. Its good to like things that resonate with you, but you'd still been seen as "toxic" or "the problem" since you have tastes that differ from what certain people want you to want, and have no desire to watch something that starts with "The Message" and ends with "Being insane is good and all men are evil". I say just keep liking whatever you like.
I really miss being able to actually own my movies with a physical copy. They want to keep us on streaming so they can edit movies at a later date and then gaslight us when we call them out for the edits!
Well you don't need to own them anymore. Just a subscription and no they don't really edit anything because that costs money.
@@jonfreeman9682 apparently you haven’t been paying attention. They DO edit movies. Disney edited the scene in A New Hope where Han shoots Greedo to add a completely unnecessary line of dialogue from Greedo that doesn’t change the subtitle translation. Other films have also received edits. Even The Lord of the Rings had a few inexplicable changes to the lighting filter in certain scenes in the 4K release. So yes, movies do sometimes get edited.
You know you can still buy physical copies? If you miss it, just start buying movies on blu-ray/4K.
@@John-fk2kyThat newly added Greedo's line was added by George Lucas before he sold Lucasfilm to Disney (but after Star Wars came out on bly ray in 2011). There's so much to blame on Disney, but this isn't one of those things.
@@wisehippo3072yes I’m well aware that you can. However, it is getting more difficult to find blu-ray copies as the brick-and-mortar stores are carrying fewer and fewer items in stock. The only way to get a physical copy these days it seems is through mail-order/online sales. Which is the very sad thing.
I saw Mad Max sidelined in "Fury Road" before the Girl-Bosses-Who-Don't-Need-No-Man appeared in every movie. The film had great practical effects, but Max was a side character in a film bearing his name. I wasn't very impressed with the Furiosa character then, and I'm not interested in an origin story for her now. That she isn't exactly a Girl-Boss-Who-Don't-Need-No-Man in another film (which also bears Max's name) is immaterial to me.
It's just sad that George Miller ruined his own franchise rather than someone else doing it. Either way the results are the same.
Well girl boss is fashionable these days. Tom Hardy didn't want to comeback to be a sidekick to girl boss.
@@jonfreeman9682 yeah 💯
Furiosa was conceived in the early 2000's and Tom Hardy was such an absolute d!ck during filming he actually apologized to the cast and crew afterwards.
Except Max was *always* the wandering stranger, was *vital* to Fury Road and Furiosa wasn't *remotely* close to being a 'girlboss.'
'That she isn't exactly a Girl-Boss-Who-Don't-Need-No-Man in another film (which also bears Max's name) is immaterial to me.'
That this isn't an example of what you're talking about doesn't matter to you-- sounds familiar.
@@jonfreeman9682 Tom Hardy was an absolute pain to work with, He even apologized for his moody temper and showing up late to shoots and bickering with Charlize Theron. The biggest girl on the Mad Max set was him by all accounts. And Furiosa was a movie conceived in the early 2000's as the creator was pitching his idea for Fury Road. Waaaaaay before the girl boss era.
Meanwhile Five Nights At Freddys, "Hey we realeased both in streaming and theaters, boom, insta box office win", so whats the moral lesson here?, people are sick of movies made with an agenda or that they look they will change something to push that agenda.
FNAF production, "Oh we hope to make something that the players will like", web pages don say anithing, people gave it a chance, Furiosa production nobody says anithing, web pages, F"uriosa will take on the theaters with feminine power", people didnt care to see it.
That, and I'm sure the budget for FNAF was much smaller, so they made a good profit. I don't know when these people are going to figure that part out.
Five nights is different though. It had the added benefit of video game fanbase just like Mario Bros. There was a time when video game adaptations into movies were all terrible and bombed but lately they've been hits. Even TV shows based on games like fallout have done really well. And movies based on toys like Barbie and transformers still continue to do well. Even movies based off mobile game angry birds did really well. So the moral of the lesson is makes movies off popular games.
Furiosa had no agenda, it’s a great action movie, but wait, are you saying that having a female lead is an agenda?
@@franciscomap75 These guys are exposing themselves. They don't want to see any action movie with a female lead no matter how good the movie is. Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga is a really good movie and they still refuse to see it. Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga will have the last laugh though because it's such a fantastic film it's almost guaranteed to become a cult classic.
@@dannyknightblade4592 agree and you know what is worse, I also don’t like woke movies and movies with girl bosses and Mary sues, but this isn’t one of them
"If he dies, he dies"-Drago same with Hollywood
Good comparison. Hollywood, like the AAA gaming industry needs to go under for a while. It's the only way to jettison the woke whackadoodles who are running around vandalizing franchises people care about.
They are tanking physical medias sales too by not putting them out in stores either. Once they end theaters and physical versions, I'll never see another new film again.
Studios by and large have decided that they would rather put their movies on streaming services to encourage subscribers to pay in regularly rather than a one time purchase. The death of physical media isn’t a bug it’s a feature.
@@Splitter4416 And it makes me hate them more. Streaming can go to hell.
There’s another side to this equation, though. I asked one of the guys in the electronic section at Walmart why they have DVDs, but almost no Blu-rays. I asked the folks at Best Buy why they had deleted what used to be the most extensive DVD section of any store in town. They both had the same answer: they said it was because they didn’t sell. So I can’t say that the studios are tanking physical media sales, or if they’re responding to a lack of demand, because people prefer streaming or digital releases.
I know folks who got rid of their physical media collections because they have all their movies on some digital service and liked having that whole wall back that used to be shelves of VHS tapes and DVDs.
@@liljenborg2517 Not me. I only buy physical. I'll never spend a dime on streaming.
People will hopefully continue learning to ride the high seas, and build Plex servers, etc.
I don't blame people for being wary of these shows and movies. Lately my brain has also been conditioned into automatically assuming the worst of everything that comes out. Even with films with directors who I know aren't like that. I hope that one day it can go back to how it was before, back when we just had fun
Yeah it's sad but we have had so many bad female lead movies that I won't even give a new one a chance.
Perhaps there are so many bad female-Ied films because studios keep putting out sub-par ones the 80s Supergirl film and string of comic book films in the 90s..
The 90s gave us two fantastic comic book movies in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Blade.
Or maybe that was just new line cinema that gave us two great comic book movies.
Well girl boss movies can make money. Big time. Just look at Barbie, captain Marvel , WW 1, black Panther 2, black widow and even Fury Road did $400 million which is pretty darn good for an old IP.
Really, the female lead isn't the problem. It's recognized as a red flag now. The deeper problem is the woke hollywood culture in general. They disrespect the past, they disrespect the canon, they disrespect the fans. Why would I want to see anything that is made by a bunch of cultural vandals?
@@jonfreeman9682 Barbie isn’t a girl boss in the general sense of the term. Captain Marvel was released between Infinity War and Endgame; its sequel crashed. Black Panther 2 underperformed from the original despite the boost from inflation and the opening being a tribute to the original Black Panther who had died. And $400,000,000 isn’t that impressive given what a ticket costs these days.
I have no problem with going to the theater to see a movie I’m interested in. But I’m also perfectly willing to let any film or franchise burn to the ground. Hollywood conditioned the audience to apathy being the first response not waiting for a movie to arrive on streaming.
I find it so weird that Google and Reddit are censoring MANY bad opinions about this show.
They've been doing that for a long time. Ghostbusters 2016 was when the practice became known mainstream, but it's really just a modern extension of yellow journalism.
I never understood the thinking behind studios wanting to set up their own streaming services. There is little to no money in it and it has totally destroyed physical media sales which used to make them a lot of money on an IP long after its release. The idea of putting movies on streaming literally weeks after theatrical release is also cannibalising their box office especially in a cost of living crisis. No, streaming has been a huge own goal for Hollywood.
There is money in streaming and that's where it's at but problem is they spend too much money making movies.
The logic is there. If they have tons of subscribers that pay every month, they could get a stable source of income and more money in the long run. The problem is everybody thought the same and decided to make their own streaming. Because not every service can survive they spend tons of money in new content to attract subscribers. This lost them money and saturated the market with bad movies and series. This also trained customers to stop paying until something good comes out, so the constant income of subscriptions also was affected.
@@juan0808 Even a simple analysis would have told them the market would become saturated and the most likely outcome would be huge losses. Their arrogance inflated the value of their content and they ignored reality. Any stock market trader could have told them they were losing objectivity as this is one thing that traders also have to be very wary of. They would have been much better just leveraging the current streaming providers to licence content. That would have given them a steady income stream at almost no cost. They got greedy and weren't as smart as they thought they were.
@@jonfreeman9682 There is only money in being an established streaming service, Netflix lost money for years before getting to a critical mass where they could offer enough content to get mass appeal. New shows are the only thing that really drive subscriptions and making decent new shows is extremely expensive.
This will only stop when the BlackRock/Vanguard money dries up. I'm not sure that will ever happen.
You hit the nail on the head, but there's another big reason people didn't bother seeing it - we just don't care. We're not interested in putting in the time for another cookie-cutter product.
The studios need to commit to a theatrical release of 3 months and then don’t release on streaming until 6 months. Make box office money, give people a reason to watch it in theaters, and make streaming worthwhile waiting for last summer’s blockbusters to come out at Christmas
You, my friend, have common sense. These people are morons. In an effort to control the media we wat h they've s rewed themselves. Tubing has a larger market share now and duhsney paid for it. Turner and the people at comcast are laughing their assed off. They made iger look like a fool who only knows how to spend other people's money. No wonder he wanted to be president. Access to everyone money.
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Year. There needs to be a year between theatrical and streaming, and that could be extended based on popularity and the sales of other formats such as Physical sales and vid on demand sales.
@@joshuastoughton1693 People are willing to go to theaters, and pay for streaming IF your first condition is met: The content is worth paying for. Too often it isn’t, and nothing will help that.
High seas types aren’t even stealing The Acolyte LOL
There used to be theatrical exclusive windows. Theaters pitched fits when that window shrank due to proprietary streaming services. Theaters lost.
The problem with a theatrical release of 3 months is that, when the movie stinks and drives away audiences, as it so often does these days, keeping it on the screens just hurts the theaters.
I just don't get HOW Hollywoke is still surviving with flop after flop... are they being bailed out by the government or something?
Yes
They have hits that save them like Barbie and Mario Bros and dune so the good saves the bad movies.
Blackrock, Vanguard, and other investment firms actually. They are the ones that want a firm grip on anything that makes culturally relevant stuff.
The one world government
They aren't investing their own money. They are losing somebody else's money.
Imagine that, put an attractive masculine guy in an action film and non lesbian women want to go see it. Who would have guessed. 😂😂
I doubt they believe non-lesbian women exist.
My wife has admitted that she likes the leading men in movies. She doesn’t want to see a Mary Sue female boss lady. There are countless movies with an action female lead that don’t elevate her by putting down the male characters. Until Hollywood understands that, they will continue to put out bad movies and shows.
@@wvanyar1801 Yes, I agree, two good examples are Luc Besson's La Femme Nikita and Joan of Arc
@@nicholasrockall7308 , My personal favorite is Aliens. The only guy made to be really stupid is the greedy corporation guy. The Lieutenant is just green and does the most character growth of anyone during the movie.
Ripley's character is show as trying to over come her fear, but doesn't want to sit around when someone is in trouble. The entire end fight is her alone, because everyone else was injured. That is a hero that anyone can identify with.
But I agree La Femme Nikita and Joan of Arc are also good examples.
@@wvanyar1801 Yes, I forgot about Aliens, Ripley was excellent.
A few people actually like diverse, queer girl bosses! But only a few. Great idea to make all these movies and shows about them
Yes! I was one of the women picking Rambo 5 over Charlie's Angels! 👏
If the Barbie Movie and "Inside Out 2" doing exceptionally well, it's clear a film that appeals to women can do very well. However, if you try to make the kind of action film that appeals to a primarily male audience, but attempt to make it more women centered, not enough men or women will show up to buy tickets, to make the film successful.
I don't think it's the streaming-too-soon that's undermining the box office. People don't go to theaters simply because they get movies first - they go there because they're willing to pay for the big-screen experience for seeing big-screen movies. The problem is, Hollywood isn't making enough good blockbusters, and theaters are charging so much it is driving away casual moviegoers.
Studio owned streaming outlets have undercut their theatrical releases. Design or happenstance?🤷🏽♀️
Stupidity 🤪
With how Inside Out 2 is killing it at the box office, the Disney excuse of people don't go to theaters anymore or how the audience is trained to wait for streaming just falls apart. People don't want to watch blatantly woke shit.
Isn't Inside Out woke shit?
Zero interest even in sailing the high seas for this.
Time's too precious to be wasted on "meh".
So, you don't like good movies?
@@bassage13, is the movie good? What makes a good movie for one person may not be good for the next person. I’m not getting a Disney+ subscription for at least another 3 years. I had Disney+ during the lock downs for 3 months. My wife and I bookmarked everything we wanted to see. Watched it all in two and a half months. Reviewed the catalog again for anything new. Watched those few shows and canceled.
This movie is not something I would sign up for Disney+ to see. I’m not interested in the subject matter of the story.
1) Female protagonist
2) Prequel
If there's anything that stops guys from buying tickets to movies, it's those 2 things. You can cope about Sarah Connor and Ellen Ripley all you want but they are the extreme exception, not the rule.
Since theater prices are so high and movie quality so inconsistent, people like myself can only afford to go once or twice a year - and then only if it is a movie I want to see and it has been getting good reviews. We used to be able to take a risk on a smaller movie because it didn't cost much but can't risk wasting $100 just to see a movie with my wife that might be bad.
I for one am tired of girl boss movies. I am not saying there were not good female lead movies, aliens, terminator come to mind, but all these movies are force feeding us women bosses. If it isn't girl bosses it is race swapped characters for inclusion purposes. I do not want to see a movie with black scandanavian vikings or a black queen of England. Tire of the woke DEI.
I was exactly the audience you are talking about. I didn't go to see this intentionally at the movies. And by the time that I learned, from videos such as this one, that the movie itself was actually quite good, then it was far too late for me, or anyone I knew, to go see it at the movies. Thank you for another informative video. Cheers from Australia.
Real girl boss don't give no shits about your money, your culture, your opinion, your logic (above all else)...
real girl boss just needs your subservience.
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Surprise, surprise, straight women like to watch strong men
What a mystery
I guess we’ll never figure out why
i still have ZERO desire to see furiosa. no desire to see hemsworth, the alien chick, and no "mad max".
Well it's set in the mad Max universe. Not sure why Tom Hardy didn't come back but his was supposed to be a prequel. I think it's poor marketing. But fans should support this or you won't get anymore mad Max movies. George Miller has a script for two more sequels but if this bombs then that's it. The franchise won't be coming back.
Show a little respect. ATJ is a gutsy and talented actress, not an "alien chick." She's never given a bad performance in a very varied career.
I hate woke movies. But this one wasn't. It was good. It bombed for reasons besides its quality, as laid out in this video
@@jonfreeman9682 I could not disagree more. I once thought like that, so I understand where it comes from. However, after seeing reboot after reboot get the Hollywood treatment and damage the IPs they were supposed to celebrate and expand, I have changed my mind. I would rather the classics remain untouched and preserved for future generations, rather than undermined and desecrated by "creative reinterpretations" and woke messaging being forced into them by ideologues who don't care about the franchises that they've inherited.
There are fates worse than death. Let the old franchises that have run their course lie.
For half the movie Furiosa was portrayed by a child actress, exceptionally gifted. It felt like she could carry most of the story if they kept Furiosa a bit younger throughout (and obviously ditched the romance part).
The takeaway: women want to see feminine women and masculine men.
3:50 to skip the _ridiculously_ long commercial.
I swear Hollywood is so detached from reality and do t listen to the audience.
I love this channel between you nerdrotic and the clinical drinker and geeks and games. Love you guys
They should have replaced Furiosa with Barbie and called it Barbiosa
I can't help it.
You've got to put Gosling in there too, both of them sporting pink leather gear...
With profuse female nudity
...then Immortan Joe rips off his mask and its Geoffrey Rush, and he takes a big bite of a green apple.
Andre on the MyHeritage site, "Huh...what-doya'-know, it turns out I'm Norwegien."
Saw it in the theatres. It was great, but very long. The utility of the pause button was missed.
It sucks that we’ve been waterboarded with the forced strong female protagonist because furiosa was actually a kickass movie. Everyone just assumed this movie was gonna be another mary sue girl boss movie. It was more about expanding and explaining how immortan joe’s empire functions. Furiosa’s revenge story isn’t till the end of the movie. And she’s not the typical good at everything female lead everyone was expecting. Like she plays a support role in almost every fight. And the movie is well aware that any woman would easily be overpowered by the average wasteland raider which is why they made her a sniper. She has to be taught everything she knows in fury road and the most standout thing for me was that she has so sit out the biggest battle in the movie simply because she’s too wounded to participate. Disney writers would never have their female lead sit out on the final battle let alone let them take enough damage to cripple them. The movie is worth watching just for the war rig chase in the middle with the Octoboss’s gang
I’m actually looking forward to buying/watching Furiosa.
Would be hilarious if they tried to “masculinize” female franchises.
Barbie reboot, starring Jason Statham as Ken?
Hollywood ruined a family tradition.
So, my uncle has lived out of state most of my life. Whenever he came home for the holidays, hed have us 4 nephews agree on what movie we wanted to go see, and we all would. The prequel trilogy, the first 2 toy story movies, I even saw my first boobies in Starship Troopers with him.
Hes coming out to visit me in a few days. Asked me if I wanted to see a movie. We both agreed, that there is nothing we want to see.
This was one of my favorite traditions. I rarely got to go to the movies as a boy. I loved the excited conversations we'd have after.
Fuck Hollywood.
I had faith in George Miller to deliver another great outing in the Mad Max world. As soon as I saw it featured a girl bosswhen the first teaser appeared, I checked it off my list. I've had my fill of that.
He did deliver another great outing. Had you not pre-judged it, you would've seen that.
I went to see it, it's no Fury Road but it's quite decent
Hemsworth really steals the spotlight on this movie tho
Well not all girl boss is bad. It has to be done right. Thor 4 is an example of what not to do where girl boss and kid boss saves Thor. Just terrible. But here she's not totally girl boss and had help. Give it a chance. You might enjoy it.
I understand not wanting to see a Mad Max movie without Mad Max, but George Miller made a great movie with Furiosa. She was not at all a girl boss in the move, and Chris Hemsorth's Dementus was great. The sad part is this movie flopping may doom the third movie George Miller was talking about making being a conclusion to Max's saga with an "old man Max".
But I understand not wanting to take a chance on a girl boss bait and switch.
Check this movie out on streaming, or sail the seas. If you are a George Miller fan you will like it.
@RenlangRen Where did you read that he wanted to do an old man Max story? I read that he said he had no ideas for that. His next Mad Max movie would've been another prequel, this time starring Max played by Hardy.
Damn. Typed out a nice long response and it disappeared as fast as I could post it.
Even if I would like this movie, I still will never see it. I despise these people so much I will avoid it just to spite them.
I still have no desire to watch Furiosa, even if she isn't a girl boss. I just don't care about her as a character.
Furiosa was a good movie tho i paid to watch it
my brothers girlfriend waked out she said she couldn't follow the story that made it a 10/10 for me she has the worst taste
Agreed had a convo with several agents and managers at the bafta screening of this film. Streaming is cannibalizing the feature business after digesting TV and breaking that model. It’s reversible.
Furiosa is a good example of a movie I figured I’d wait to see for free on streaming…was lightly interested but not interested enough to go see it at the theatre and spend $50-75
I hope Furiosa does good on streaming. I hope he makes another movie b4 he's unable to
Honestly yea.
I heard buzzwords saw the "girlboss" poster and thought here we go again. Wrote it off and just didn't go watch it.
Wasn't till I saw kojima saying good things about it that I gave it a chance.
I would 100% have made more money if the well hadn't been poisoned.
Yeah, I thought it was going to be another Mary Sue movie, so I didn't go and I'm a huge Mad Max fan. I'll probably wait till I go streaming to watch it now.
I think the lesson of Furiousa is : Strike while its hot
what if i want to make ice cream? 😉🙃😊
So with Furiosa that means never.
I was one of those who didn't give _Furiosa_ a chance, even before any reviews came out.
But it wasn't due to fear of it being a girl-boss movie. It was because I didn't care for _Fury Road._ I watched it once and felt no need to see any more. I never watched it again. I never felt like watching it again. I don't regret never watching it again.
So why would pay to see this one?
I think Furiosa did fine for a sequel/prequel of a movie that made roughly it's money back Domestically and a little over double it's budget world wide. It made about half the money the original did which is very common for most franchises. They simply spent way to much money on the sequel/prequel. Some how believing it would do better.
The Fall Guy was actually pretty good though. It's a bummer that it didn't do well.
I think Furiosa looked cool enough to check out at some point, but since I'm on limited income it would be more likely to be by picking up a used copy of the DVD at the local used media store. But with everyone in Hollywood cramming themselves onto the Titantic that is called streaming, there likely won't be a physical copy to buy, so i just won't see it. A shame really. The original Mad Max movies weren't big budget flicks, they were lower budget with lower expectations that for a variety of reasons, not the least being Mel Gibson as the title character, ended up becoming a phenomenon with a large cult following that became very successful over time. If Hollywood reversed course to being smart and pragmatic, they'd focus on doing more lower budget films that have the potential for great success because they'd put their money on hiring one or two actually talented writers for a project, getting great actors and skilled directors, and then hoping for a surprise runaway hit that struck a chord with the wider populations. Instead they spend a hundred million plus on a narrowly targeted project that appeals to the claimed liked of a very narrow audience (i.e. other people in Hollywood) and then are shocked when no one else wants to see it.
Furiosa deserves better perhaps. And perhaps, like the original, people will watch it on cable or several friends gather and put it on as background noise and be drawn into it and then maybe it'll become unexpectedly successful in the years after its release. It's a much better bet than the one Hollywood has made on it.
In the days before home play, it was often three or more years before the feature made it to OTA.
More recently it was months, maybe 6 or 8, until recordings became available.
But if it's weeks, there's little reason to buy the theater ticket.
Theyre doing it with everything. House of the dragon is 85 percent about girl bossery.
Honestly, “Game of Thrones” was already about 85 percent girl bossy. Tyrion starts off being clever but then just wants to placate the women in his life. Rob Stark bows and bends to his mother’s will and gets killed being stupid. Jaime is driven by his sister. Strong women - Daenerys, Sansa, Cersei, Arya, etc - drive the story. I like strong women but I’d like the guys to have a spine of their own too.
@@coloradospacegeek4226 season 1 was not but then beginning in season 2 you are absolutely correct it became an intersectionally feminist show more with every season. And it's frustrating because the books are not like that at all.
furiosa was awesome... some comments from people they wanted mad max back not a girl lead ..movie was good enough they can still make another mad max film and bring in mad max
I have no desire to see Furiosa. Won't even ride the high seas for it.
Incels gonna incel.
Can we talk about just how awful the theater experience is? You pay a ton of money for tickets, God help you if you want drinks and popcorn too. Then you have about a 40% chance of some B.S. at the theater completely ruining the experience. Why risk all that? The drinks and popcorn are cheap at my house and my big ass TV works just fine.
You trained me hollywood to spot out your trash and if I watch your slop and dont like it you attack me so im good.
Where's Max?
That would be an alternate title.
What was their master plan with streaming anyway? Did they think people would buy movie tickets at the same rate, subscribe to 10 services simultaneously, and still buy the blu-ray? Because that's the only way that this model could have worked out.
I saw FURIOSA twice in theaters. It's a very good movie, marketed terribly by L.A. bubble-life morons.
Saw it three times. 😊
I think the reason why women check out of girl-bosses movies quicker than men is because, those of us watching these action films in the first place already grew up with female-inclusive stories, whether it was from watching shows like the X-Files and Farscape or films like Aliens and Red Sonja. Additionally, we know these Girl Boss films come from a place of narcissism and virtue signaling more than telling a good story. A woman has less tolerance for that kind of bullshit than a man (who, let's be real, will typically stick around for the explosions 😄). But I think the main reason why Girl Boss films push us the wrong way comes down to the definition and implementation of today's 'strong female character'.
Whereas strong male characters are allowed to have flaws and gain their strength/charm from hardships and mistakes, the strong female character MUST be perfect in every way. She is the Disney Princess amplified by ten, full of virtue. Her strength doesn't come from hardships and mistakes. Rather, the entire game is simply rigged in her favor, from male buffoons who just can't keep up with her, to her obtaining power without having to work for it. She really has no agency to call her own because she isn't allowed to make shitty decisions and suffer any consequences from it.
For me, the most disrespectable thing you can do to a woman is treat her like a baby, manipulating her environment with electric plug covers and layers of soft padding so she won't hurt herself. That's how Hollywood is treating us right now. Hollywood doesn't think we're emotionally mature enough to handle complex female characters (with good/bad traits) or strong enough to climb up the social ladder on our own. As a result, we get these Baby Girl Boss films inadvertently look down at us. And to add salt to the wound, we're expected to APPLAUD these efforts.
The very term 'Mary Sue' originated from female fanfic readers/writers who were just as equally annoyed and frustrated by Baby Girl Boss stories. In fact, the harshest criticism in fanfic websites of the 2000s CAME from women. So is it really a surprise that we quickly check out when we smell bullshit in the air?
That stuff about your family tree is actually really cool
Yeah, I thought so. Been able to trace one branch all the way back to the 15th century Germany!
Could it be that some women like to go to action movies to see the male leads?
A small quibble: I miss the Chapter Titles in movie-matching fonts 😢.
I think “Furiosa” will do well on streaming.
Furiosa was an amazing film. I don't know what it has to do with all this wave of hating on hollywood, but all i know is it was a great film. Made by a great director who raised alot of the money himself cause this was his vision.
I mean he is nearly 80 years old.
Just leave Furiosa out of all this mess.
A lot of these RUclips reviewers are losing credibility with me. They're so quick to label any action movie with a female lead as "woke" or "girlboss" or "Mary Sue" that they call movies that that don't even fit that description. I've heard people claim Furiosa beats up a group of big powerful men single handed which doesn't even happen in the movie! A lot of these dudes are celebrating Furiosa's financial failure as if it sends a message to hollyweird to not make woke movies. Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga isn't woke so this movie not doing well isn't the win for anti sjws that numerous anti sjws claim it is.
I will check it out if it's on one of the services I am subscribed to. I really don't care anymore if Hollywood crashes down. There is a market for good, big budget movies, so if Hollywood dies, then there is an opportunity for another provider to be built up.
If they are that stupid, they deserve it. If I get some movies out of the subscriptions I already pay for, I will take it.
Couldn't care less about Furiosa. I wouldn't watch it even if it were free.
Maybe if they paid me big bucks... on second thought, no.
Well the last one was pretty good so if you don't support this then it's the end of the mad Max universe.
@@jonfreeman9682 So? There's no Mad Max in the Mad Max universe anymore, so why would I care?
Preach!
I'd even add: you don't give me Mel Gibson, I keep my money.
@@snakeplisken8665 Mad Max still exists in The Mad Max universe. Furiosa didn't replace Max. Just because Furiosa got her own prequel movie doesn't mean Mad Max no longer exists.
Guilty. I saw a Furiosa trailer and thought more gender swapped nonsense and just didn't bother. I would have gone to see an old man Mel Gibson Mad Max, though.
Excellent summary of most probable reasons for this early movie perceived and actual financial failure. - I could t agree more - I trust the truth will rise in the future to show that this was gravely miss marketed and mistimed release of a great movie. -- many great movies bombed initially until the truth was realized. Scarface and Zoolander are good examples but there are many many others
Video starts at 3:55.
It's so crazy these movies comes out a month after being released. That's craaaaazy
Andre, Tom, you guys need to extend an invitation to Grace to talk things over with dual streams. That would do huge numbers.
🎶 What kinda dumb shit did Grace say this week? 🎶
@Ashkihyena We gotta be civil though. She'd probably be hard to convince to walk into the lion's den in the first place.
Don't even dignify Grace's career by acknowledging she exists. Just ignore her.
Nope grace is part of the problem..she needs to go !!!!
No. Tom would manage to blow that up in a heartbeat. I don't think he'd be able to behave himself.
You know jay leno had a skit on the tonight show where he talked about the rapid flip from big screen to rental kiosk…guess it’s true now
Perfect Example, I had no interest in going to see the Expendables in theater, and was content on waiting for it to release on DVD when it was coming out, but my Wife really wanted to go see it for date night because she thought it would be a really fun one, so We went to that one specifically because my wife asked me to and it was awesome and fun, loved it
The abundance of bad female led movies are hurting the few good ones. Well done Hollywood. You played yourself.