Will Palestine Join the UN?
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
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In today’s episode, we run through whether or not the UN will recognise Palestine for membership. Also, we discuss the protests in Armenia calling for Pashinyan's resignation; the surprising growth of the UK economy; and devastating floods in Brazil.
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00:00 Intro
00:23 Will Palestine Join the UN?
03:40 Armenia Protests Call for PM to Resign
05:31 UK Economy Grows
06:48 Floods in Brazil
07:43 TLDR Good News
08:23 Sponsor
My predictions on Palestine: veto.
Probably
I mean, it makes no sense. What is Palestine, the west bank or gaza? They're two governments that hate each other...
99% Approved 1% disprove (us veto included)
There are no vetos in the General Assembly. A veto can only be used in the Security Council.
@@MarcusAureliusTitusdid you not listen? He said that for palestine to become a UN member it needs to be approved by the security council, where the US has Veto powers. Watch 1:26
Sometimes you wonder if the UN seriously should be reformed to the point where permanent positions and veto powers are not needed...
Same day no one has nukes
The question is where will it's power come from?
Exactly this is reason why I think vetos are important. Even if ours important agendas won't pass either.
Yes. those things never should've existed. WW2 victorious nations shouldn't have unlimited power compared to everyone else.
@@AL-lh2ht Pakistan has nukes but not permanent member status, DPRK, India, and arguably Iran too. Should they be given vetos? No. So it’s not about nukes.
Permanent member status was built on the five main members of the allied powers in WWII, and the time has long passed when some members had global relevance.
Same just like lifting up Cuba embargo. 99% vote yes and US veto it.
Maybe because people were voting to remove it that have no sea border with them
Fun fact: usually, cubans are the ones supporting the embargo
Remind of Malaysia statement on Veto
"It has lost its meaning and has no rights in todays democracy"
Malaysia isn't a Super Power.
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"No" has no meaning or right in a democracy? Seems pretty fundamental to democracy.
Malaysia is a dictatorship
@@westrim Fundamental to democracy that one country is favoured above the majority of the world?
You lost the main idea of the veto. It is to allow the world super power countries to carry their will through their veto.
Without it they could just threaten to live if the UN decides something they don't agree with. You don't want a world power like US, Russia or China to leave the UN unless you want UN to become irrelevant. That is why they have the veto privilege in UN.
Same for vetos inside EU, there every EU member has been considered important from the moment they joined. Otherwise you'd end up with losing the EU expansion in all the Eastern members.
Could you guys stop asking questions in the title to which the answer is very obviously: ''no''? It feels way too much like clickbait.
Better yet keep asking those clickbait questions, but start the episode with a full screen NO
more like "maybe, if the US isnt fucking around"
It's 50/50
It is
"Why Palestine won't be a UN Member" would've been a more appropriate title. Though the current title to me, doesn't seem harmful unless there are actual masses watching the video with false hope.
Will Palestine join the UN?
"No!" in whatever language vetoes.
Latin. That's the language of the word "veto".
I am not surprised Carmelo was smart enough to get on the roof but that the roof was strong enough to hold a 1000lb horse.
Carmelo Anthony?
If Palestine joins the UN then Taiwan, Kosovo, Transnistria, Somaliland, etc. should be also be allowed to join as well.
not ruzzian "Transnistria" 🤡
All of those countries should be recognized imo
@@thischannel4326 I don't think you fully grasp how much of a geopolitical headache this will cause to the world.
Transnistria? Let’s take this one step at a time.
someone really commented first on news
Some one really commented "someone really commented first on news" on news
What a time we live in
@@metamorphis7 someone really commented “Some one really commented ‘someone really commented first on news’ on news” on news
@@moneyhuge someone really commented “someone really commented “someone really commented first “someone really commented first on news” on news” on news” on news
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!
The world say yes the US say no so no
As everyone knows that veto, it wouldn’t surprise if others say ‘yes’ just to get goodie points back home and abroad even if they don’t want it or would have otherwise abstained
@@gideonmele1556 Yup. The very fact that the veto exists will skew the vote when everyone assumes it will be vetoed. A dangerous game to play, though......
If it does pass, it will be a very interesting precedent considering that the borders of Palestine would have to be undefined or include territory they don't currently control. It will open the door to very interesting possibilities about recognizing "countries" and then endorsing conflicting border claims. I can see why Russia and China would want to make this an exception without precedent. Shame for them, that's not how reality works.
The Palestine vote passed but the text said it was a one time exception to the UN's normal membership process. How it will affect things post-war will be interesting. The West Bank and Gaza might as well be two different countries themselves. The Palestinian UN rep called the vote a rejection of the two state solution. But it's unlikely Israel will get boot out of the UN or the UN write off Palestinians taking over Israeli territory without setting off a bunch of dominos.
@@SEAZNDragon Then the vote is meaningless from the start. They are recognizing a "country" with no government or defined borders and without any intention of addressing those issues. That is hilarious, why even cover it or pretend that it is news?
@@SEAZNDragonoh look Palestine saying this will genocide all the Jews again
@@SEAZNDragon That's not how precedent works. There is no such thing as a one-off exception to international politics or laws. The UN has just green lit the idea of international recognition of a "country" with no defined borders or government. All of the would-be breakaway provinces in China should be paying very close attention to this development.
@CedarHunt Who cares though? Some silly heads in the clouds "international legal precedent" doesn't matter when a genocide is underway. Rules are broken ans new precedents are set every single day, yet some will pretend such and such is "an unprecedented can of worms" when it only disrupts a status quo they care about. Shameful.
7:28 “Who’s horse is that?”
That's a good question
Average TLDR commenter
Tastes just like raisins.
So I honestly don't know how they can gain entrance until Gaza and the West Bank reunite, unless the West Bank claims the title themselves and don't claim the West Bank, which is possible though seems unlikely.
The only real solution is to extend democratic rights and civil liberties to Gazans and West bankers within Israel with a Palestinian right to return tied to the Jewish right to return
@WriteInAaronBushnell I thought you were proposing a real solution... Inviting terrorists that wish death upon your entire culture is the opposite.
@@WriteInAaronBushnell No way Israel will ever accept this, they consider themselves as racially superior to Palestinians.
@@xAnonymousComedia 1/4th of Israel popularion Is made by what you call palestinian. Some are serving in the army right now
Also palestinian as an etnic group do not actually exist, and half of gaza popularion Is etnically egyptian, by hamas admission
@@Zankyo137 The denial of them as an ethnic group is a narrative to push them into other arab countries and empty the territories.
Palestine: I certainly hope Palestine gets full membership. It's the least they can do at the UN. However, I do hope that it does somehow support Kosovo and Taiwan in a roundabout manner.
Armenia: I certainly hope this doesn't trigger further conflict. I'm worried that the war with Azerbaijan will kick off again.
UK: I have to admit, I'm surprised by this. I wonder if they can keep this up through the year, because I am not optimistic.
Brazil: this is an absolute catastrophe. So long as the climate crisis grows worse, this will only become more common around the world
Gene Therapy: this is utterly delightful news! I'm really glad to see this technology becoming more effective at treating more things to a greater level of thoroughness!
Bruh this is youtube, give me my obvious rage bait or bad faith talking points
You can thank USA for supporting some independence and dissapproving others based on their political agenda.
One thing with gene therapy is we need to be extremely careful with them. And need a large and long term studies on them.
i hope scotland, north ireland, catalonia, hawai can be independent too.
Palestine does not even have a real goverment
Yes
The veto must be illegal
after war crimes become illegal, then maybe. But as long as Hamas' actions are labeled "resistance" then the veto stays.
It is resistance right there enshrined in international law 🤧
@@davidh4374 little Zionist
@@davidh4374 are you forgot about 🇮🇱 warcrime?
@@nyrodiana7251 do you know of any such war crimes besides what you "learn" from Al‑Jazeera and its many crying sisters?
When Hamas chose to hide itself and Israeli hostages behind its own neighbors, it committed the root war crime of this entire conflict.
I'd like to thank all other nations who offered or sent help and donations to Brazil to aid in the appalling situation in the south... setting politics aside, it took everyone by surprise because it's a state that you rarely ever hear about natural disasters like those, even more when it left huge portions of the state underwater. Just totally crazy to think how rain dumped 10x the amount of water in a few hours, several of those cities would see in a full month or so. It's like, record levels by far... the second time in history that it rained like that, but still not as much as the past week was before WWII, in early 40s. Several smaller cities are completely underwater, and even big cities such as the capital had lots of neighborhoods who never saw a flooding event close to them getting several meters of it. It's just insanity. Seems to me portions of the state will take decades to recover, if they even can, because it seems this phenomena is here to stay.
That's really the scariest thing about Climate Change - we cannot predict how and what it'll hit with extreme events like those. But we're seeing more and more of these crazy extreme rainfall events that jumps 5 to 10 times over the average suddenly.
A certain rouge state will use their veto
Return of the economy, or "that cat bounced pretty high"
They should be given a seat but it should be empty until a proper government can be created
It would be the PA. Not any Gazan gvt.
who r you to decide what a proper government is
@@Emily-gh2mm One elected for starters and not one that was propped up by Bibi
I wouldn't mind seeing some Palestinian representation in the UN, but I don't want it to be a terrorist group that takes orders from Iran. Hopefully the Palestinian Authority can step up and show some real leadership, because they're the best alternative to Hamas.
@vvav Israel currently has multiple ministers who where terrorists. Not just members of a group that does terrorism. One of them, even recognized by Israeli courts as guilty of terrorism.
We shouldn't hold Palestine to a standard their oppressor fail.
But... I think a lot of Palestinians agree with you. The sad reality is that a Palestinians civil war is likely especially if Iran continues supporting insurgency forces. With wether they end up more aligned with Iran or someone else (my understanding is that Egypt and the EU are the two other main candidates)
how can they become a state if they have no actual border or sovrigenty. this itself is a dangerous precedent for other coutnries.
Oh yeah, it's a dangerous precedent to give a country recognized statehood. Isn't the US in support for a two-state solution? So what's the problem if Palestine actually becomes a recognized state? All hypocrites.
They do have actual borders
Take a look at the walled part and that's the border.
There's also the border recognised internationally ever since Palestine got a seat as an observer state.
Not knowing these just shows how much propaganda has been fed to you. Just like how most Israelis not knowing the Balfour Declaration
Yeah, international rule of law will be more anarchical than it already is. However, resolutions in the General Assembly aren’t really binding though. Diplomats really see them more as an expression of international opinion.
It's actually very easy, the 1967 borders which everyone in the UN agrees to including all the veto members states. And yes that does mean demolishing the illegal Israeli settlements in West Bank Palestine and booting out the far right Israeli Zionists
The veto in general us stupid but the fact that they can veto the existence of a country is BS
if Russia proposed that the UN recognize Dixie as a country, what do you think the world should do? _Vote_ on it? 🤣
@@davidh4374 yes they should, and the fact you think they shouldn't speaks volumes. Why should the security council members have special treatment?
@@fedyx1544 so you're for the enslavement of Africans then? ...just as long as slavery is supported "democratically" ...at least by a few hundred elitist representatives of the worlds' governments?
No system is perfect.
When you _have_ a veto available to you and you _know_ that using it is the right thing for humanity, you _use_ it.
@@fedyx1544 you want to enslave black people? Or you're _personally_ against it but you want a democratic world to _vote_ on it? Which one?
Wow. I loved today's good news section. 👂👍
THE HORSE!!!
rishi sunak really trying to cling to that growth of 0.6% thats sad
…why does the US have a law about denying Palestinian statehood? Recognizing both states seems like the only realistic way to peace, however fragile
Recognize a state that has no leadership. That's not a state. They are a people, but they are not a state. Hamas ain't their ruler and Fatah ain't either. Else there'd be two states like with Korea
@@KaloyanKasabov And Netanyahu and his compatriots have fought very hard to keep things this way, Will Hamas propped up and Fatah dysfunctional and discredited while they "settle" what's left bit by bit.
one word: AIPAC
@@georgeshapiro301oh yea next you’ll say Israel told Hamas to attack Israel. You bigly smart
Because apocalyptic christians have an outsized voice in US government, and they need israel to usher in the end of the world. If Palestine becomes a country, they might have to face mortality before the world ends and that scares them.
Wait 0.6% is the highest growth in the G7? What about the US?
The US had the highest GDP growth of any G7 country in Q1 2024 with 1.6% growth which was actually a bit below expectations
The UK was number 2 in Q1 gdp growth amongst the G7
BBL DRIZZY oh-uh-oh BBL DRIZZY ! ! !
What interesting times!
UNO means P5
Israel opposes it, so Washington will too ..
The vote on Palestine might pass
not if the americans have anything to say about it. just like every other pro-palestinian UN-proposal, they will immediately veto the resolution if it comes to it.
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Aka hypocrisy lol
How can you recognize the "State" of palestine, when said state doesn't have 1 government.
Theres hamas?
@jaxbronson9734 That's no part of this comments argument..?
@@josevictorribeirolisboa7576 there's no hamas in the west bank, the west bank has a government called Fatah
@@josevictorribeirolisboa7576 a terrorist group leading a country? Hell nah
@@nightthemoon8481That would be PA which is controlled by PLO and Fatah is just dominant party in PLO
A new record low morale of the organization
the answer is NO 😂😂😂😂
why give admitance to somewhere that is barely existing?
which one? they are 2 palestinian governments?
dehldeeeraaaarr why did u not tell us that the aurora boralis existed ur a news source, many of our only news sources, why couldnt u fit it into the TLDR good news, these are important things, and u have to tell us these sorts of thing in ADVANCE, not after
at the end during the nebula shoutout, there is an issue with repeating the words “plus nebula” twice I want to let you guys know if you don’t already.
US supports this idea.Fishy.
The people of the U.S. largely support Palestinian statehood (with the exception of some Jewish nationalists and far-rightists). The U.S. government, on the other hand, claims it supports a two-state solution but conveniently always finds a way to backtrack or leave it entirely up to Israel.
welcome to the electoral college! engineered to insure that white landowning christians keep their power, and today pretty much means evanglical christians rule the country. no one else matters.
Good I wouldn't support terrorists hamas either
How do you know that US largely support Palestinian statehood? I saw American users in online supporting Israel.
@@fchowdhury5727it's an exaggeration but only because Americans have been taught all Arabs are bad and Jews are always right if not then you support anti-Semitism
US legally cant fund orgs recognising Pali state? Lol. Its like US is the client state of ISR
it... kinda is? i'd recommend researching the israeli lobbying groups in America. they are by far the most powerful nationality-based lobbying groups, and has had huge influence over american foreign policy, especially in the middle east.
@@kartoffelkaiser322 Ich weiß.
@@jackiecooper9439 Based. very few people actually bother to do research to such an extent, so it's cool to see someone else who has.
@@kartoffelkaiser322guys it’s not anti semetic to say Jews control the US goverment. It’s tots not
@@kartoffelkaiser322said research sources qatar
Does Azerbaijan withdraw from Armenian territories ?
I support Israel but let me be clear I don’t support the relentless bombing of Gaza but I was shocked that the idf is going threw with their attack on rafah
Very simply, both the UK and the EUro-zone have seen far lower growth than virtually anywhere, US included, but the UK has not seen far lower growth on any valid comparative basis than the equivalent major Western European economies IN the EUrozone at all.
So nice classic TLDR EUro-lie, but no coconut!
"the U.S. does hold a Vito" Vito Corleone?
We hold a few Vito Corleones
@@BerryFunChannel1 you're abusing Vito's power, people around the world don't appreciate that, they love the Corleones
UN: No Join Palestine
Caramelo is the color of the horse. Caramel color.
Lol the "Juan" meme IRL
Poor horse
I wonder if the better way to demonstrate if the US does walk the walk of the two-state solution is to actually bring that to the Security Council and see if they will actually truly approve it.
the problem is, if that happened the proposal would likely not be a _version_ that America would support: America would veto it, and most critics would rail against America that it is permanently always against the idea no matter what.
We kind of saw a version of that play out back when China and Russia vetoed an American ceasefire proposal, likely because they didn't want America to take _credit_ for a good thing.
If the UN would stop playing politics and start taking ideas _seriously_ then it might do a lot of good in the world. But of course it won't.
America just like Israel puts other countries into a mouse wheel. America is do as I say not as I do, it's hypocrisy and "lying by changing the narrative" over and over again.
You think the number 1 superpower in the world couldn't go a territory the size of Israel-Palestine and force everyone to accept the boundaries the US demands? The US does not give a damn about a Palestine nor human rights. This is the same country mind you that wanted to keep Apartheid South Africa in power!!
They should put a dual full membership proposal where both Palestine and Taiwan will be part of the resolution. See how few member state would vote for the resolution without angering China.
Taiwan itself doesn’t want that
I didn't know China was actively committing genocide in Taiwan.
Also, it's insane to compare Israel and China, one is a superpower, the other is a tiny desert country that's one isolationist president in the US away from a totla destruction.
@@emp437 You must be living under a rock if u think Taiwan doesn't want to be a country itself, they just don't want to be invaded and destroyed but if that is out of the picture, they are declaring a country straight away and no longer a part of China.
@@emp437 You must be living under a rock if u think Taiwan doesn't want to be a country, they just couldn't because China is there not making it happen but if that is out of the picture, Taiwan is calling themselves a country in the next minute.
@@Apocalypse21OGTaiwan still considers itself all of China. It can’t keep that in its constitution while becoming a separate state.
Lol
I hope so
The economy is grows, and the people get poorer, same as the US. The irony.
Bor
if so, then Kurdistan, Tibet, Chechnya and Kosvo should join UN (just saying cus of double standards )
Double standards*
Tibet would be if China wasn't an expansionist state.
That's what the whole thing about "not setting a precedent" is
gotta love how the best Zionist commenters can do is to say "well, other countries oppress their citizens too" you really thought that was a clever argument?
@@grasshopper8901Literally every country is expansionist
Hopefully Taiwan will join first.
If Taiwan can't join, no way I'd support Palestine joining. But this would also prove who's truly behind the whole Palestine agenda (China and Russia) and who's REALLY trying to islamize Europe (China and Russia again, NOT SOROS).
They can vote on it and acknowledge its territory on a map, it doesn't mean that Palestine just won't be a government in exile eventually.
saying that palestinians dont deserve there own state are the same reasoning that said after ww2 that the jewish didnt deserve there own state
@@GlowingRoseDoesGeo Not at the expense of our land and security, palestine will get independence, war breaks out once again, people get killed, mostly palestinians and israel takes over again
@@GlowingRoseDoesGeo the problem with giving Palestinian a state rn imo is the civil war that comes after, there are currently 2 Palestinians territories each with their own government, and I'm pretty sure Hamas attacked the West bank government once, I don't remember why tho (could be to kick them out of Gaza but I don't remember right)
@@GlowingRoseDoesGeo I think the Palestinians should have a state of some kind. It doesn't mean that they will get it, because if no one wants to actually rein in Israel, it will just say Palestine on a map. It will be filled with Israeli settlements on the actual ground there.
Just like some of eastern Ukraine is basically going to be Russia, even if no one changes the maps.
@@matthewburrow3089do you think having Palestine become a state will actually change anything? It wont
Do those armenians even know how Russia eeally views its "allies"
Russia wouls have suported Armenia more if they didnt betray them and supported the Ukraine regime
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People who don't live in the region don't seem to realize that the vast majority of Palestinians themselves don't want a two-state solution, since that would mean recognizing Israel and "giving up the territories lost in the Nakba of 1948".
sounds like you dont know ur shit. The vast majority of Palestinians want the 67 borders and the PLO recognised Israel decades ago, though Israel has never extended the same courtesy
@@nayeemhaider8367 100% this. Everyone has been asking for 1967 borders for ages, it is only the terrorist state of Israel that is duplicitous and has been constantly lying about it. What can you expect from the new Nazi Israel??
The Jew is in full panic. Palestine will be free
UK RAHHHH
You say it's good news, but the idea of a cure to deafness is horrific to me. This could very easiliy lead to the eradication of sign languages and the assosiated cultures as deaf induviduals are likely to be pressured to have this done to them due to the abelist nature of society. I honestly hope the child's hearing degrrades not as a creulty to her but as a saving grace to the lives that could be destroyed if her cure is perminant.
Hopefully not
Keep crying
@@ramy1190 keep attacking civilians
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Can anyone state what Palestine is?
A country that Israel colonised and likes to fuck around with. Where they have some kids from New Jersey bursting into people’s homes at midnight telling them to evacuate because it is his homeland. That’s what Palestine is, the land that Isntreal likes to steal and colonize because some bad things happened back in the 40s so now they can terrorize the civilians in some rectangle in the desert.
Why would you ask questions as world already knows what Palestine is
@@Canodiablo It is country, Wikipedia even stated it and so is vast majority of world and near 90% of world population
Look at a map before WWII and you will know
@@cyclomb the United kingdom?
Armenians cozy up with russia and occupied the villages, now that russia is broken, they had to had it over
DO NOT VETO
They will always veto, no matter what crimes the IDF commit, they will always support it just like how both are afraid of the ICC
Had Abbas called the election in 2021 we wouldn't be in that situation
but hamas than win and yeah we would really have genocide in palestine soil
Dumb article, theres plenty of other news to cover
Add a 'nation' that even on a good day has been politically and geographically divided for the last two decades with few of the fundamental characteristics of a nation state? And they call the US position unsound.
It has all the characteristics of a Nation, what it does not have is all the characteristics of a State, in practice there are two States, one Palestinian Authority considered by the majority to be legitimate, and the other that is Hamas extremist. The UN only recognizes the Palestinian Authority
The Nation is an ethnic and cultural identity, shared by a people in this case Palestine and officially recognized by 142 countries including America, France and the United Kingdom, which have the right to Veto in the UN. What is not recognized or fully recognized is the Palestinian State.
Next up: Will Candyland be accepted into the UN?
K shaped recovery strikes again
You can't be pro-two state solution, and pretend to be a neutral negotiating party, if you're against one side even having recognition, or a voice at the UN
Recognizing Palestine is not going to bring peace. The west fundamentally does not understand what’s going on
"Right to self determination" said the bloke that represents a government that was elected in 2006 and hasnt given up power since
how about the Palestine make a state and then thay get added to the UN, you know, like everyone else in the UN.
How the hell does someone make a state under occupation for 60 years
@@definitelynotgreen6698 IDK that didn't seem to stop the Zionists at 1947, and how is this relevant?
Its called the UNITED STATES not United states wanna be.
@@definitelynotgreen669875+ years
Ever since 1948, it has been under militarian rule
Palestinians have been begging for their state, but Zionazis keep forcibly occupying their land.
Let's hope not
I’m not against palestinian statehood, but i do think that granting it now would set a dangerous precedent, rewarding terrorism with a state…
You rewarded the zionist terrorism with a state and then their disrespect of international law and aggression with a recognition of expanding borders
You just have a blind eye for your favourite advanced military base in the heart of the Muslim world
It’s not like Palestine wants statehood
Crazy to think that Hamas, I mean Palestine might join the UN.
Most of Palestine’s de jure land and population is in the West Bank where Khamas is not in charge.
No crazy as Zionist had since 1948
If terrorist state of America and Israel can become members of UN then why not Palestine.
It's unbelievable that a terrorist state like Israel is allowed to even exist. To think we pay every Israeli man, woman, child, baby and senior citizen $40,000 per year for the last few decades. And for what?? To depopulate our own people and feed the disgusting Zionist machine
If Zionazi Pissrael can join the UN, then so can Palestine. And Hamas is not Palestine's government anyway.
Short answer: unfortunately not
No , it doesn't exist (˃̣̣̥▽˂̣̣̥)
It’s up to Africa to decide from now on! There the richest continent in the world, un needs to bow down to Africa during the struggle, cleaning out the baggage
... anyways Veto that Garbage, not how we do things.
then how do you think it should be done?
Short answer: no
Long answer: xdd
The plurality of the world says yes. America and Europe say no. Therefore, no. Democracy, yay!
Well, the plurality of the world is not democratic either. It's funny using democracy as an argument when pretty much every state in support of Palestine are dictatorships or theocracies.
Can you imagine the UN having the Taliban AND Hamas as sitting members while claiming to have any moral authority whatsoever?
Israel killed more people than the Taliban and Hamas combined
Hamas are not officially in charge of Palestine.
They have Saudi Arabia and other gulf states, so...
@AlexVanChezlaw at least saudi arabia provides value. What value did palestine ever provide beyond constant wars over who is god's special person
@@ryboi1337 what value Saudi Arabia provides? They just bring slavery, terrorist organizations and useless and expensive buildings in the middle of the desert
3800 views in 34 mins? y'all fell off fr
Second
Palestine has long deserved full UN membership. It's about time.
I think you meant the increased isolation for the UK, US and Isreal 😂
Isolated by who? The world is smaller than you think.
@@winterinvicta Nah, it's just hilarious when they pretend England is not supporting Israel and try to stay away from it. America is the only one who vetoes Palestine to join the UN, and the rest voted yes. Only the UK abstains. Even Japan and Korean supported the resolution.
How can you have a state with no actual real control of land?! Kurdistan and Somaliland should be recognized any day before Palestine, they actually control some land...
From the river to sea, there will be a united democracy
So what happens to all of those people you don't want that's in between the river and the sea?
@@rmmvwsame thing that happened to while south africans when apartheid ended, they go home
@@kaesdn8017 which is exactly where they are currently? most people in the area only have one citizenship or no citizenship at all, most literally have no where else to go.
@@kaesdn8017 there home are in ukraine,russia or belorus what is not really ideal place for jews
@@kaesdn8017 ...wut? South Africa's demographic didn't really change after apartheid, you do realize that right? White South Africans are very much still there.
Palestine should be recognized as a country. Then the war will be between two countries, not a "poor group of children throwing stones" anymore.
They say two-states solution? But Hamas told us all they don't accept Israel, they want "from the river to the sea". What two-states is that?
Even Hamas has accepted the 67 border lol
US will never allow palestine into the UN unless we get kosovo and taiwan in as well. That is our offer. Take it or leave it
I was going to make a comment about how can you speak on behalf on the entire us but as I clicked on your comment to reply I saw your name and was like oh. ok, yeah that makes sense
Taiwan refused because getting a seat means acknowledging the border of the PRC which they oppose.
And if Kosovo wants a seat, go ahead. Why would we oppose a fellow Muslim majority nation?
470 views in 5 minutes man these guys fell of
Hell no!