Why Austerity is Returning to Europe

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  • Опубликовано: 11 янв 2025

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  • @supernoodles908
    @supernoodles908 8 месяцев назад +790

    Time to listen to my daily dose of economic problems via a soothing voice

    • @underratedbub
      @underratedbub 8 месяцев назад +9

      😂

    • @user-gw3hq4mb7m
      @user-gw3hq4mb7m 8 месяцев назад +1

      who

    • @MenkoDany
      @MenkoDany 8 месяцев назад +3

      Remember to listen to different voice. You're not so special that you're immune to propaganda, nobody is.

    • @littlerage4u799
      @littlerage4u799 8 месяцев назад +28

      ah yes crisis asmr

    • @elenigeorgiou87
      @elenigeorgiou87 8 месяцев назад

      🤣

  • @Rui301
    @Rui301 8 месяцев назад +591

    Imagine calling us lazy and irresponsible back in the debt crisis and now only 2 countries are doing better than Portugal debt wise. Lmao.

    • @FlanPoirot
      @FlanPoirot 8 месяцев назад +33

      ya, eu também ri quando vi esse gráfico hahaha

    • @luismadeira3101
      @luismadeira3101 8 месяцев назад +30

      I don't remember calling us lazy,but heavy spenders it was kinda true before but not now

    • @NottoriousGG
      @NottoriousGG 8 месяцев назад +8

      A dica do Medina de orçamentar e não executar a dar frutos diplomáticos.

    • @Jonas_M_M
      @Jonas_M_M 8 месяцев назад +4

      You have followed austarity closer than we..

    • @Xtrems
      @Xtrems 8 месяцев назад +34

      As an eastern european I feel empathy for southern europe when I hear such prejudiced opinions. Though negative stereotypes about us are completely different than about you - we are never assumed to be lazy and you are never assumed to be drunken dummies - both are equally detached from reality.

  • @MegaSavvis
    @MegaSavvis 8 месяцев назад +39

    Thank you for providing links to your sources. I'm from Cyprus so my interest was piqued when you said that the Cyprus budget surplus in 2023 was due to Russian money laundering. You cite two articles that were published in 2023, but they actually detail Russian money laundering in Cyprus from before the Ukraine invasion, with some brief mentions of the impact of the outbreak of the 2022 Ukraine invasion. I am not denying that Russian money laundering was the bedrock of our economy the past couple of decades, but I'm not sure whether it's accurate to say it was responsible for the 2023 government surplus, it's not clear to what extent Russian money is still being laundered in Cyprus.

    • @nettcologne9186
      @nettcologne9186 8 месяцев назад +1

      TLDR research is always poor, don't worry

    • @MegaSavvis
      @MegaSavvis 8 месяцев назад +8

      @@nettcologne9186 I’m still a big fan, I think it’s a good channel to get an overview of current affairs. I like how they condense and simplify information and cover a broad scope of news, hence their name, can’t blame them for occasionally making errors.

  • @RLDPI
    @RLDPI 8 месяцев назад +146

    Last week „wages are to low“ today „austerity” make up your mind Europe

    • @NorroTaku
      @NorroTaku 8 месяцев назад +93

      Fuck austerity
      Tax the rich if you are really concerned about debt
      Gotta spend money to make money

    • @jonasastrom7422
      @jonasastrom7422 8 месяцев назад +48

      ​@@NorroTakuWow what a great idea, I wonder if it's been tried and failed for the last 70 years in europe..

    • @inbb510
      @inbb510 8 месяцев назад +28

      @@NorroTaku , Europe is already the most taxed continent in the world.
      Anymore reckless increase in tax will just kill innovation and make Europe an extremely unattractive place to do business.
      Also if you want public services to be funded better in the long-term, you'll need to address your low fertility rates.

    • @Betweoxwitegan
      @Betweoxwitegan 8 месяцев назад +15

      ​​@@inbb510Europe is also the best continent in the world, correlation? I think not. I would advocate for a corporate tax reduction, import tax and low bracket income tax. Ireland has a healthy corporate tax rate and VAT for example and I would increase in RCGT, LVT, CAT, VAT in many nations. Corporate taxes are a highly inefficient form of taxation and only really serve a few functions, 0-15% is ideal I would say.
      Everyone needs to stop acting like Europe is a terrible place to do business or that it's stifling innovation due to their welfare state and more liberal policies. It's the complete opposite, Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Norway are all more innovative than The USA in qualitative metrics like startups per capita, international patents filed per capita, research papers published per capita, etc. Stockholm is just behind San Francisco for example.
      Furthermore, Ireland has a fertility rate above The USA slightly but it's still under the replacement rate and is something to address.

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox 8 месяцев назад +22

      @@inbb510 The most taxed (in the "developed" world) sure but that has little do with how those taxes are distributed. And I'd argue most places are severely undertaxed.
      Also a lot of money to be made from consumers is attractive to business. Taxing business and investing in social services leads to more consumption overall. It's not that simple.

  • @underratedbub
    @underratedbub 8 месяцев назад +175

    Another day, another economic problem in Europe

    • @sewur5034
      @sewur5034 8 месяцев назад +6

      But we have rainbows!

    • @MoravianMugiFan
      @MoravianMugiFan 8 месяцев назад +2

      We just live in pain

    • @The_Jester
      @The_Jester 8 месяцев назад +11

      That's what analysts and economist do, they find problems to discuss solutions indefinitely... if you don't talk, then you have no problems like China, nothing to talk, everything is perfect 🤣

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox 8 месяцев назад +1

      Well I think the graph at 1:25 puts things a little into perspective. In fact Europes fiscal balance % GDP remains one of the highest in the world.

    • @Dendarang
      @Dendarang 8 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, it's pretty funny. EU's been "falling apart" every week since 2002 and we're still here.

  • @kevinrichard100
    @kevinrichard100 8 месяцев назад +106

    The EU changed the fiscal rules in 2023.
    It's more flexible now.
    This video addresses the old fiscal rules.

    • @brownbear1657
      @brownbear1657 8 месяцев назад +30

      How convenient....

    • @paul1979uk2000
      @paul1979uk2000 8 месяцев назад +14

      @@brownbear1657 He's right thought, there's been a lot of complaints about the system for well over a decade with how inflexible the older system was.
      Maybe a more flexible system was needed to give countries more room to breath, as long as there is pressure to brings debts under control.

    • @jal051
      @jal051 8 месяцев назад +9

      Sounds like USA's debt ceiling

    • @JSK010
      @JSK010 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@paul1979uk2000 "Maybe a more flexible system was needed to give countries more room to breath, as long as there is pressure to brings debts under control."
      So lower the "pressure to bring debts under control", so that there is a flexible system in which... there is "pressure to bring debts under control"? Escalate to deescalate

    • @grimaffiliations3671
      @grimaffiliations3671 8 месяцев назад

      The us debt ceiling isn't real because they controls their own currency, the EU countries do not

  • @ahmed51988
    @ahmed51988 8 месяцев назад +14

    Austerity is the government saying: The structural problems of the system are bringing closer its end, but as we won't implement radical changes that will make some people less rich, you're gonna be poor for some time, it won't last long (wink wink).

    • @appstratum9747
      @appstratum9747 8 месяцев назад +2

      You hit the nail right on the head. Austerity doesn't work and hasn't ever worked. It merely perpetuates and deepens inequality and kills economic investment, growth and productivity (which makes us all yet poorer). And as you allude to, austerity doesn't begin to address the elephant in the room: the effective economic enslavement - and we're not being over-dramatic here - of the vast majority of the population to a tiny but incredibly wealthy fraction of the population who can afford to exist entirely detached from the miserable reality that the rest of us occupy.
      The transfer of wealth from those of working age (particularly the young) and those in employment to those who are rent-seekers and economically inactive (and giving tax benefits to encourage and facilitate this trend) is strangling the life out of society. The inequality has always existed but is now really noticeable, even to those who are firmly well up the middle classes yet still starting to struggle. For those bumping along the bottom it is incredibly hard to see any way out of this perpetual misery.
      Which simply invites ever worsening political stability, populism and - eventually - results in democracies in existential crises. And that's particularly true when amplified by the corrosive effect of social media. Where fostering rage amongst the downtrodden is the most lucrative way for large big-tech social media platforms to make money. There's a huge profit motive in leveraging poverty and outrage that - as with Brexit - turns up at the ballot box and causes yet more havoc.
      You can understand some people who want to "burn the system to the ground". Because honestly, in their position why wouldn't they?

    • @ahmed51988
      @ahmed51988 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@appstratum9747
      I agree 100% with your analysis. I hope that we can see in our lifetimes systems that put the well-being of people as its sole goal , not growth, not capital, not meaningless indexes and stats, just the well-being of people and the quality of their lives.

    • @appstratum9747
      @appstratum9747 8 месяцев назад

      @@ahmed51988 Indeed. Totally agree. And we're going to have to because with automation and AI (what I do for living) being able to replace people like never before in a wide range of (up until now lucrative) professions (including my own), the whole concept of distributing wealth in exchange for labour goes right out of the window. That leaves all the money in the hands of a tiny few who own all of that automation (or the infrastructure that it runs on). The rest of society becomes redundant from these owners of said capital.
      But the bottom line is that the rest of us will not accept starving to death and having no education and healthcare. And will lash out, self-destructively if necessary.
      So we really are going to have to have a major rethink of society putting people, quality of life and happiness/wellbeing/satisfaction right at society's core. Because all the traditional measures that you've mentioned become meaningless if they're relevant only to half a dozen global trillionaires (and even then in the abstract because that wealth is so obscene that it becomes meaningless to them, too).
      As we know, the growth figures say one thing and people's experience is already quite another, because that growth in GDP isn't shared equitably across the population. The stats have already become meaningless drivel for the majority of ordinary people. And they know and feel it. And are voting for destabilising populists because they feel powerless, are getting to the point of desperation and willing to vote for anything that upsets the apple cart and (they hope) gives them a chance.
      We cannot continue down that road. We just can't. It's a shame that politicians (at least for the most part) have their heads stuck in the sand. They're so addicted to the concept of growth (to make their lives easy, because traditionally economic growth leads to political success) that they don't really think much about the situation when that scenario no longer applies and/or when growth no longer happens at all (at least per capita) as processes and workflows reach as close as possible to 100% efficiency.
      Most politicians don't understand that the concept of economic growth is historically a very recent thing (from the industrial revolution onwards) but that always was going to be limited by maximum attainable efficiency and finite natural resources to consume.
      The bottom line is that we've all become fixated on the numbers and stats rather than what really counts: living a happy, fulfilling, emotionally satisfying and stimulating life and for us all to be able to do that sustainably and securely wherever we live in this world. Ultimately the economy is just a toolbox to facilitate that. The tools are not the be all and end all in themselves.

  • @thijmstickman8349
    @thijmstickman8349 8 месяцев назад +63

    Slow growth and a high tax burden, but rent keeps rising. Maybe tax the land owners?

    • @houseplant1016
      @houseplant1016 8 месяцев назад +9

      And the multinationals, who not only made huge profit because of corona, but also although inflation is decreasing still keep the high food prices

    • @andymurdoch2776
      @andymurdoch2776 8 месяцев назад +1

      “but also although inflation is decreasing still keep the high food prices“
      You obviously don’t understand inflation.

    • @looseycanon
      @looseycanon 8 месяцев назад +6

      That won't help. Landowners have the right to set their prices and the need for housing is extremely price inflexible. The landlords would simply forward that tax increase to tenants.

    • @thijmstickman8349
      @thijmstickman8349 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@looseycanon Thats the opposite of how an inflexible (supply-inelastic) market works.
      The supply is constant, so in a P Q diagram the S curve is a vertical line. The equilibrium is solely determined by demand. Taxing would keep the price constant, only decreasing the supply surplus.
      Google georgist economics for a more comprehensive breakdown.
      Land taxes are the most liked taxes by economists across the political spectrum for a reason.

    • @grimaffiliations3671
      @grimaffiliations3671 8 месяцев назад +2

      Land value taxes are the only taxes that cant be passed on to a consumer, because ant increase in rent will open you up to an identical increase in taxes

  • @Jordan-fd6cx
    @Jordan-fd6cx 8 месяцев назад +34

    In the UK it feels like we've been in a perma-crisis ever since 2008. When's the last time we had a 'good' year?

    • @grimaffiliations3671
      @grimaffiliations3671 8 месяцев назад +8

      Before Tory austerity

    • @terryj50
      @terryj50 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@grimaffiliations3671 since when did the tories run europe

    • @terryj50
      @terryj50 8 месяцев назад +1

      what has that got to do with this this is the eu countries

    • @MathewLewit
      @MathewLewit 8 месяцев назад +2

      From macroeconomic view, 2016 was last OK one, then large companies freaked out due Brexit uncertainity and reduced investments. Rest of EU had good time until 2019. Since then, all Europe is in some sort of mess with no end in sight. Some minor rebound here and there, but my wallet says "No".

    • @grimaffiliations3671
      @grimaffiliations3671 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@terryj50 the comment I was replying to is about the uk

  • @tomybartok99
    @tomybartok99 8 месяцев назад +38

    Funny how Hungary has one of the biggest deficits and the yearly budget has already been spent. Not to mention the highest tax rate in the region. But the government invests mostly in propaganda. Any other public institutions are kept on a bare minimum budget

    • @edc1569
      @edc1569 8 месяцев назад +13

      Corruption is expensive

    • @tomybartok99
      @tomybartok99 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@edc1569 Exactly

  • @albevanhanoy
    @albevanhanoy 8 месяцев назад +103

    The fuck you mean "Returning" ? Like it has ever stopped since 2008 lmao.

    • @nadie8093
      @nadie8093 8 месяцев назад +14

      They have been spending like crazy since 2016

    • @gaborrajnai6213
      @gaborrajnai6213 8 месяцев назад

      No we didnt.@@nadie8093

    • @pax6833
      @pax6833 8 месяцев назад +4

      this is obviously wrong if you even just watch the video

    • @albevanhanoy
      @albevanhanoy 8 месяцев назад

      @@nadie8093 Government spending a lot doesn't mean the average person sees a dime. Most of this spending goes to pensioners.

    • @stefamart7
      @stefamart7 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@albevanhanoythe fact that it goes to the pensioners is, again, the electorate fault because it doesn't vote to cut pensions, but it still isn't austerity. In the same way that you can be "austere" and give a bit of money to those who really need it in the right way, you can be a heavy spender and give it to people who don't need it.

  • @Crusader-tu9gb
    @Crusader-tu9gb 8 месяцев назад +12

    CYPRUS MENTIONED LETS GOOOO

  • @davidray6962
    @davidray6962 8 месяцев назад +37

    Austerity is the same as "false economy" - shortsighted penny pinching which will end up costing more in the future. The slow growth and increased spending on defense currently in Europe is at least mostly to blame on past austerity - missed opportunities and inadequate maintenance in the past costs more now. Doubling down on austerity will only exacerbate the problem.

    • @yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649
      @yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649 8 месяцев назад +6

      Wrong, high spending is shortsighted. Austerity is spending less so it cant end up costing more, is impossible by definition

    • @davidray6962
      @davidray6962 8 месяцев назад +17

      @@yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649 quick economics lesson: If you try to save money on your car by not getting oil changes or replacing worn tires, you soon won't have a car. Spending on maintenance, whether infrastructure or military or healthcare, is cheaper than repairing or replacing it later. A lot of the current rise in government costs is having to replace things like militaries and infrastructure which were allowed to fall into disrepair or disarray under previous austerity measures. Further austerity won't help replace them, and despite what libertarians, neo-liberals and anarchists say they are considered necessary by modern societies.

    • @pax6833
      @pax6833 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@davidray6962 this. Austerity only makes sense if governments were wildly overspending/printing money (IE hyperinflation) which is pretty rare. Otherwise it's bad policy.

    • @panzerofthelake506
      @panzerofthelake506 8 месяцев назад

      ​​@@davidray6962 The vast majority of expenses of these European countries are not just merely maintenance. It takes very little to maintain infrastructure, even healthcare when managed properly isn't all that expensive.
      You literally can't keep spending money you don't have without consequences, inflation and interest payments will destroy you. Austerity is only necessary when governments keep making short sighted decisions, deficit spending to gain quick political wins.

    • @oifikd1
      @oifikd1 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@pax6833That's exactly what they did.

  • @dankspain
    @dankspain 8 месяцев назад +3

    Denmark should be an example administration efficiency and fiscal policy for the rest of Europe.

  • @RamasArrow
    @RamasArrow 8 месяцев назад +24

    I just saw thru the window. Even the sun is going down. What a crisis.

  • @paul1979uk2000
    @paul1979uk2000 8 месяцев назад +4

    Considering how things have gone with Covid, the energy crisis, plus all the other commitments, they are actually holding up quite well, but it was never going to be easy during a transition which is what is going on in Europe right now, especially on the energy sector and military.
    Is it that big of a deal? Not in the short term, but changes will have to be made with reforms to kick-start the economy, after all, remember, we are in a transition that's impacting Europe far more than the rest of the world, especially when it comes to energy, but that's a short term problem, the long term problem is that Europe and especially the EU needs to start being a lot more competitive with high-tech.
    In any case, having debt isn't a bad thing if it's managed debt, and honestly, looking at the overall numbers, they're not that bad but could be better.

  • @NorroTaku
    @NorroTaku 8 месяцев назад +8

    Good dept is so much more important then "osterity"
    If you cant build the road you cant reap the benefits of the factory
    Tax the rich if you are concerned about the the black zero

    • @esanahka9284
      @esanahka9284 8 месяцев назад

      Rich are already getting taxed. EU has the worlds highest taxes

  • @Miamcoline
    @Miamcoline 8 месяцев назад +41

    Its actually crazy that not more is being done to rethink budgets. It is a moral and existential must for us to deal with cost of living, housing, climate, Russia at an absolute minimum, so we have to spend more, but we are already absolutely drowning under debt.
    We have to reinvent ourselves. Austerity was a disaster in countries like the UK and ended up being counterproductive. On top of that we have to massively rebuild and modernise our infrastructure, and reinvest in our healthcare, transportation, immigration, social housing, and utilities systems. We can do all of it like we've done before but its going to take a monumental effort and amount of money. Its far past the time.

    • @danielwebb8402
      @danielwebb8402 8 месяцев назад +13

      In UK "Austerity" has meant "Spent a higher % GDP on public sector every single year than in any year from 97-07".
      So not austere at all

    • @stevestevenson3791
      @stevestevenson3791 8 месяцев назад +2

      Thats great champ but we need to focus on making the special line go up /s

    • @jacobjones630
      @jacobjones630 8 месяцев назад

      The US pushes austerity to keep you weak and unable to threaten American hegemony.

    • @yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649
      @yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649 8 месяцев назад

      You are wrong, european governments need to spend less

    • @diogorodrigues747
      @diogorodrigues747 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649 Europe needs to spend more but also to grow more. Taxes and regulations need to be cut, as well as some public services need to be concessioned in order to increase efficiency. The pension systems also need to be reformed given the demographic context.

  • @danielvalcarcel8062
    @danielvalcarcel8062 8 месяцев назад +4

    It's funny that we talk about how we aplied austherity when tons of conutries have chronic deficits.

  • @Zzzooooppp
    @Zzzooooppp 8 месяцев назад +12

    If Poland didn’t have to spend 4 percent on its Military because of its Geopolitical situation, it would be almost exactly where Ireland is 🤔

    • @2mek99
      @2mek99 8 месяцев назад +2

      No. Poland spends at least 2 % long term. So the real difference is only 2%. With 5,1% debt in 2023 it would come close to 3% deficit in 2023.

    • @Zzzooooppp
      @Zzzooooppp 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@2mek99 if you’re going to say the long term spending is 2% you need to compare it to long term deficit. It’s dishonest to change only on half of the equation.

    • @2mek99
      @2mek99 8 месяцев назад

      @@Zzzooooppp Deficit is deficit. Long term the goal is to balance the revenues and expenditures.

    • @Zzzooooppp
      @Zzzooooppp 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@2mek99 you don’t understand what is being said

    • @MichaelE.L
      @MichaelE.L 8 месяцев назад +2

      Poland also receives a ton of money from the EU, so without it the situation could be the same as Italy.

  • @viktornovomestsky3999
    @viktornovomestsky3999 8 месяцев назад +14

    Sorry, but the Czech republic has introduced serious measures, partly higher taxes on some products, partly decrease of subsidies and mainly a pension reform which has been 20 years overdue...
    We are therefore expecting our debt to amount to 2,2% in 2024 only, and it might even be much better, as we are expecting serious foreign investments, mainly from South Korea and Taiwan..
    It has even been reflected in our credit ratings, as all agencies have given us the best rating out of all the former USSR countries...
    That all with our defence spending raising to 2% of GDP...

    • @looseycanon
      @looseycanon 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah, problem is, these effects did not come to pass just yet. You know, how things work around here... we try something and it always ends poorly...

    • @viktornovomestsky3999
      @viktornovomestsky3999 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@looseycanon All the measures mentioned above are effective as of January 1st this year...
      Only the pension reform needs to be passed, but I have no doubt it will, thanks to the majority within our current government..
      You're right, that the pension reform will come into effect on the 1st of January 2025, but that will only lead to a further improvement of our budget deficit of 2,2% this year..
      Plus there will be economic growth of course, as the inflation caused by te Russian war is back to 2%..

  • @victorgomez4107
    @victorgomez4107 8 месяцев назад +43

    Austerity never left the chat.

    • @stefamart7
      @stefamart7 8 месяцев назад +6

      There's almost never been such a thing as "austerity" in Europe, expecially in the south, come on. Running deficit after deficit and never cutting spending isn't austerity

    • @elomial724
      @elomial724 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@stefamart7he is a commie

  • @dookdevries8848
    @dookdevries8848 8 месяцев назад

    Love that you've put David Cameron's 'For the Record' on display in EU news

  • @master8127
    @master8127 7 месяцев назад

    The fiscal rules written down in the Maastrich contract have never been enforced, so in praxis there are no fiscal rules in the EU

  • @pistolen87
    @pistolen87 8 месяцев назад +3

    What will probably happen. EU will increase its spending through deficits, increase inflation target to 3 or 4% to decrease the burden of the debt. Let the population pay through increased inflation.

    • @neodym5809
      @neodym5809 8 месяцев назад +2

      Keep up. Inflation is almost down to 2% again.

  • @hchzoz90
    @hchzoz90 8 месяцев назад +1

    It seems worth mentioning that government spending is a part of the GDP. So a comparatively large US deficit and their stronger GDP growth are intrinsically linked. Growing moderately but without a big deficit may - depending on t he country and its economic situation - be the wiser choice. There is demographic change and younger generations have to pay the interest on that debt.

  • @simon2493
    @simon2493 8 месяцев назад +2

    Poland is exception here with high debt dude to military spending.

  • @CorvinJonas
    @CorvinJonas 7 месяцев назад

    Love this channel😁

  • @steffen6987
    @steffen6987 8 месяцев назад +1

    0:21 "European budgets" No, that's just budgets in the EU.

  • @gamecubekingdevon3
    @gamecubekingdevon3 8 месяцев назад +2

    The title is assuming austerity left in the first place lol

    • @elomial724
      @elomial724 8 месяцев назад

      What a commie...

  • @_ata_3
    @_ata_3 8 месяцев назад +1

    Why nobody's looking into rich people's pockets? There's the money countries need to finance and invest on public and private spending.

  • @tommske
    @tommske 8 месяцев назад +1

    maybe do the reforms and austerity in economic prosperous times and stimulate the economy during hard times. but i guess politicians and administrators just can't handle money. Maybe government should be stripped down to the bare essentials and let the people themselves decide what their money is for.

  • @thepax2621
    @thepax2621 8 месяцев назад +41

    At some point, its useless to have a rule regarding debt at all, if everyone and their mother runs a "debt deficit" 😅
    Whats the point? 🙈

    • @Joey-ct8bm
      @Joey-ct8bm 8 месяцев назад +3

      What's the point? I'm voting out of the EU next time. Italy freaking again. For home improvements!? They need to be put on economic quarantine.

    • @nekdo_kavc
      @nekdo_kavc 8 месяцев назад +1

      Some of us follow the rule, the others should be punished!

    • @HahaDamn
      @HahaDamn 8 месяцев назад

      @@Joey-ct8bmbro they literally have some of the best growth rates in Europe, Germans are the idiots for their debt break rule which has literally crippled their infrastructure over many decades and left them out of EV markets

    • @HahaDamn
      @HahaDamn 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@Joey-ct8bmand the historical weakness of the Italian and other southern European economies literally helps German exports by weakening the Euro lmao - there’s a reason Germany wanted the Euro…

    • @thepax2621
      @thepax2621 8 месяцев назад

      @@nekdo_kavc And are they? I think we both know better... 🙄
      These days Europe decided to "share" the debt 🙈

  • @mikkelv7020
    @mikkelv7020 8 месяцев назад +15

    Running a deficit is not inherently bad.. If your country does it every year for 10 years, sure there could be some underlying problems. It all depends on what the money is used for. I would guess a lot of the money spend now is on military, which is a bad thing (economically), but that doesnt mean its been bad all the years.

    • @namelamus8476
      @namelamus8476 8 месяцев назад

      If country is growing, debt automatically becomes easier to control. If you have debt in your currency, you are in charge of the situation as you can always help yourself by "printing".

    • @neodym5809
      @neodym5809 8 месяцев назад +1

      Well, you guess wrong. Most of the money is spend on social welfare, infrastructure and pensions.

    • @inbb510
      @inbb510 8 месяцев назад +1

      The EU barely spends its money on the military.

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox 8 месяцев назад

      @@neodym5809 The new spending is in large parts military. Though even that arguably feeds back into the economy to a degree both through soldiers wages and the arms industry. Just not nearly as effectively as many other things.

    • @pedrorequio5515
      @pedrorequio5515 8 месяцев назад

      @@XMysticHeroxOr US Weapons

  • @LordXamon
    @LordXamon 8 месяцев назад +3

    Returning? It never left

  • @GustavSvard
    @GustavSvard 8 месяцев назад +3

    Returning?
    It never left :(

  • @drjustin84
    @drjustin84 8 месяцев назад +1

    Cause it worked SO WELL the last time!

  • @ChroniclesOfCallum
    @ChroniclesOfCallum 8 месяцев назад +3

    'Fiscal Funk' is the name of the Tory Party's house band.

    • @terryj50
      @terryj50 8 месяцев назад

      can you tell me what eu country the tory party runs

  • @CryptoC4T
    @CryptoC4T 8 месяцев назад +1

    Poland and Estonia would meet Maastricht Criteria if they would spend around 1% of GDP on defence like most of EU.

  • @G_Kchrst
    @G_Kchrst 8 месяцев назад +1

    It never left Greece aside from the 3 covid years of 2021-2023.

  • @sydneylaroche8276
    @sydneylaroche8276 8 месяцев назад

    Did austerity ever leave? We had austerity my entire adult life in the UK (and most of this time was whilst we were in the EU before anyone tries to discredit what I'm saying). I'm 31. Guess what? The deficit grew. We suffered for no reason at all.

  • @spamspam541
    @spamspam541 8 месяцев назад +1

    Romania's deficit isn't because of defense spending. They only brag about 2.5-3% allocated for defense but only like 1.6% is spent and the rest goes into government funds from which they pay teacher's salaries when our ministry of education runs out of money half a year in. Our state is too big for us so no politician wants to cut back on useless ministries and administrative regions. We also have a bunch of people employed by the state to sit around and do nothing who would be upset if their positions were removed. Our government will increase spending to win votes this election year and they will increase VAT and other taxes to not piss off all the useless drags.

  • @GrotesqueSoulthorn
    @GrotesqueSoulthorn 8 месяцев назад

    "Austerity in the 2010s" never happened. Instead of austerity, public spending in Greece grew from 53% of GDP on 2010 to 60.2% in 2020.

  • @3zObafouzr
    @3zObafouzr 8 месяцев назад +1

    what's the rational behind 3%? feels like it's just a random number some economist removed from their rear end

    • @pedrorequio5515
      @pedrorequio5515 8 месяцев назад +1

      Politicians, this was negotiated by politicians, there is no rational basis, they had to put the limit some where and that was that, however it is the point where a modest growth of 1%, and a 2% inflation(assumed as target in the long term) do converge to make your Debt to GDP not grow significantly.

  • @grinsgefal
    @grinsgefal 8 месяцев назад

    1:39 Is there any list where Denmark doesn't come out on top?

    • @960john
      @960john 8 месяцев назад +1

      I believe low taxation, if it can be seen as a good thing.

    • @grinsgefal
      @grinsgefal 8 месяцев назад

      @@960john Low taxation has a price as well: public services must be paid for individually. Which of course is paradoxical since these services ought to be public.

    • @960john
      @960john 7 месяцев назад

      @@grinsgefal who said "those services ought to be public? Pensions can be provided by private as well. And public healthcare is not based on insurance principles, meaning that somebody smoking and doing drugs pay same taxes than someone with lower likelihood of getting sick. Personal opinions and values are at stake. You're leftist, but others are not.

  • @TheInternetcord
    @TheInternetcord 8 месяцев назад +3

    "What the EU can or *should* do"
    Stick with can do and remove the word should. This is better for impartiality.
    Love the channels, also this new reporter! Keep it up.

  • @williambailey1712
    @williambailey1712 8 месяцев назад

    There are massive depts within the target payment system which gives unlimited free credit.

  • @caseclosed9342
    @caseclosed9342 8 месяцев назад

    Whenever Georgia presents half the comments are how everyone loves her and the other half are people arguing about what she’s presenting…

  • @oskars1419
    @oskars1419 8 месяцев назад +3

    eu need trade with china and usa, and be an economic link between China and the USA

  • @theconqueringram5295
    @theconqueringram5295 8 месяцев назад

    I never knew it stopped.

  • @thelusogerman3021
    @thelusogerman3021 8 месяцев назад +1

    Idk about other countries but austerity worked wonder here in Portugal. Of course it helps that we are usually ruled by the corrupt socialists and during the crisis we elected the also corrupt but not as much social democrats who are also more fiscally responsible (the socialists being populists spend a LOT on things the people like but that we don't have enough money for)

  • @ddp4244
    @ddp4244 8 месяцев назад +1

    So let me summarize what you said : WE ARE FUCKED
    Nice period of time to live in, the weather burn literelly the economy is burning literelly and the geopolitical is chill until gonna start to burn literelly. Nice anything that i missed ?

  • @thedude7319
    @thedude7319 8 месяцев назад

    00:50 how ? Decimation and restarting

  • @mladenmatosevic4591
    @mladenmatosevic4591 8 месяцев назад

    It is not introduction of austerity, it is doubling down on it.

  • @ApinderSingh-b2c
    @ApinderSingh-b2c 6 месяцев назад

    Europe is changed completely

  • @Cicero_de_fato
    @Cicero_de_fato 8 месяцев назад +1

    We could easily abandon the green transition and the military aid for Ukraine…

  • @univeropa3363
    @univeropa3363 8 месяцев назад +16

    That's what we get for following America like trained poodles.

  • @leopard2690
    @leopard2690 7 месяцев назад

    There is no "debt crisis" beyond our mind. As long a country has workforce and Industrial power the debt doesnt Matter.

    • @adamelghalmi9771
      @adamelghalmi9771 7 месяцев назад

      that's becoming a big issue now in europe. manpower isn't going up ever again in like 70% of countries

  • @ChunkyyHD
    @ChunkyyHD 8 месяцев назад +5

    1:38 - United Kingdom is and will always be European; just not in the EU. Annoying when people don't know the basics.

    • @EllieMaes-Grandad
      @EllieMaes-Grandad 8 месяцев назад +2

      There is Europe [geographical] . . . . and there is €Urope [political].

    • @chrimbus71
      @chrimbus71 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@EllieMaes-Grandad genius!!!! we never knew

    • @robertjohn6585
      @robertjohn6585 8 месяцев назад +1

      Shows you the ego of the eu

  • @AlexS-oj8qf
    @AlexS-oj8qf 8 месяцев назад +12

    So UK economic decline is not due to Brexit but due to Europe’s Ecinomy in general is declining 🤔

    • @neodym5809
      @neodym5809 8 месяцев назад +2

      EU economy is not declining. It is simply not growing much.

    • @inbb510
      @inbb510 8 месяцев назад +13

      @@neodym5809 , it is declining.

    • @yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649
      @yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@neodym5809if it doesn't grow its declining

    • @neodym5809
      @neodym5809 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649 no, stagnating.

    • @diogorodrigues747
      @diogorodrigues747 8 месяцев назад +2

      In part the British decline is in part because of Brexit, because it has been worse than Europe in general.

  • @Peeoto
    @Peeoto 8 месяцев назад +1

    Weak gdp growth = lower taxes for the gov.
    I don’t understand the logic here.
    Weak growth means growth right?
    Even if the evonomy stagnate and if tax rate remain the same, ceteris paribus, tax revenue stay the same. No? 😶 I’m genuinely confused.

    • @looseycanon
      @looseycanon 8 месяцев назад

      that is the problem. Ceteris paribus is a strong requirement, which is almost never met. That same 15% VAT means something else in one year and the other, for instance, because of total yearly expanded discretionary income (income after taxes, housing, utilities and expenses to hold down a job). If this is higher, then you earn more on VAT, but if economy is not growing as fast, this discretionary income can even fall year on year despite economic growth, people start saving for worse times and you'll end up paradoxically with lower tax revenue year on year.

    • @grimaffiliations3671
      @grimaffiliations3671 8 месяцев назад

      Weak growth means high unemployment which means larger deficits to support the unemployed

    • @MathewLewit
      @MathewLewit 8 месяцев назад +1

      Governments tend to plan for increase in mandatory spending (for instance pensions and healthcare as population ages). If economy will not keep up with this growing spending demands in the future, they will have an issue. Money markets know that and incorporate higher risk premiums already today, making things even worse. Hence so much panic when growth is weak.

    • @Peeoto
      @Peeoto 8 месяцев назад

      Okay. Got it.
      So essentially it is because “ceteris paribus” is a fantasy scenario only used during theory study.
      Make sense.

  • @MaxiMonkU2B
    @MaxiMonkU2B 8 месяцев назад +29

    Everything is a crisis eheh

    • @legtendgav556
      @legtendgav556 8 месяцев назад +2

      Really make you question the leadership or the reporting
      Or both

    • @MaxiMonkU2B
      @MaxiMonkU2B 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@legtendgav556 Or the incentives made by platforms to force them to do this amount of click baiting... Or even human nature for being so exploitable by tragedy. Who knows....!

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox 8 месяцев назад +1

      Hardly. Europe fiscal balance % GDP remains one of the highest. If this is a crisis the entire world has been in an economics crisis for decades.

    • @legtendgav556
      @legtendgav556 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@XMysticHerox haha wow haha... that would be an unfortunate discovery..............
      haha...

    • @Anonymous-hp1tg
      @Anonymous-hp1tg 8 месяцев назад +1

      Thats just how social media algorithm works today. Negative sells.

  • @demran17
    @demran17 8 месяцев назад

    romnaia is making some huge energy infrastructural projects atm that will benefit the whole of europe... ofc the debt is high now, but it will pay off in the future so i don't see what the problem is

  • @RightCenterBack321
    @RightCenterBack321 8 месяцев назад

    She sounds like that woman from the "Rainbow Six" series who briefs you before every mission.

  • @nutmaster7794
    @nutmaster7794 7 месяцев назад

    Austerity is good as it keeps the cost of living low

  • @chickenfishhybrid44
    @chickenfishhybrid44 8 месяцев назад

    Its funny how one of the main contentions in the comments is if "Europe" was ever even practicing Austerity in the first or on the other hand if it ever stopped.

  • @Zzzooooppp
    @Zzzooooppp 8 месяцев назад +1

    Is Wegovy really pronounced with a German/Polish W?

  • @_MrMoney
    @_MrMoney 8 месяцев назад +4

    Gee who would've thought that spending more money than what you get will AGAIN generate a huge deficit.
    Don't start crying again when the whole thing crumbles down and we're forced into austerity again.

  • @alexciocca4451
    @alexciocca4451 8 месяцев назад +1

    Does it really matter cause there ain’t no money anyhow just move the decimal point on paper that’s money

  • @huwgrossmith9555
    @huwgrossmith9555 7 месяцев назад

    Beware. Lies, damb lies, then government stats.

  • @brand8590
    @brand8590 8 месяцев назад +3

    This lovely lady is a very good anchor. Calm and clear. She has all the potential to be a pro. A pleasure to listen to.
    The EU hasn't even begun to realize the depth of their financial problems. Germany and Italy are demographically collapsing. Germany is going to take half of Europe with them. Germany has lost its cheap Russian energy which supported Germany's whole economic model. Losing their gas also cost them the previously huge German chemical sector. Just one result is the loss of fertilizers, which is critical. But the whole world is going to have problem with that soon. Russia's agricultural sector only and finally became viable with western technology and that's gone. These warm winters we've had belay the true problem. You guys really need to look at food supply particularly with the lost Ukrainian supply's and soon Russia's. After the US these two were the major food suppliers to the middle east and Africa.
    On top of that the Russians cannot maintain their oil supplies and equipment. The western experts have left. If the oil becomes too expensive or supplies threatened the US President has automatic authority to close all foreign sales of America's vast oil & gas reserves to others. Venezuela has destroyed its supplies, so we are looking at, at least a third of the world energy supplies disappearing.
    The middle east will then begin to blackmail (charge a fortune) to supply many parts of the world and sadly bidding wars are expected. You can work out the economic disasters yourselves.
    The US is desperately trying to forestall this even unto asking the Ukrainians to not hit Russian oil targets. The US, despite their major differences is even offering Venezuela help to fix their broken oil fields. Ya, it's that bad.
    Food and Energy shortages along with climate disasters that will become common.
    Not everyone's going to make it.
    P.S please tell your countrymen to get on with those untapped North Sea fields asap. Britain will desperately need them themselves. Norway and Britain may even save Europe.
    Or not.
    G/L

  • @Amelos1494
    @Amelos1494 8 месяцев назад

    Can you do a TDLR about the UN Security Council meeting yesterday?

  • @danielmartinezdowsett4776
    @danielmartinezdowsett4776 8 месяцев назад

    Did it ever leave??

  • @ramon475
    @ramon475 8 месяцев назад

    State debt is not that much of a problem, no austerity measures needed

  • @navisoul-oi8mo
    @navisoul-oi8mo 8 месяцев назад

    Gvnt needs to get more efficient and stop wasting money. Easy fix.

  • @Ticklestein
    @Ticklestein 8 месяцев назад

    There is a fully untapped market for an armed populus. It would grow the economy and improve the national defense status whilst 90% of the cost will be consumers spending to purchase arms.

  • @Tlhague998
    @Tlhague998 7 месяцев назад

    It ever left in the first place?

  • @transient_
    @transient_ 8 месяцев назад

    Europe should worry less about deficits and more about borrowing to stimulate the economy.

    • @henrybn14ar
      @henrybn14ar 8 месяцев назад

      VAT, the Eurotax, is the most powerful depressant of the economy that has ever been devised, short of full blown communism.

    • @jonasastrom7422
      @jonasastrom7422 8 месяцев назад

      No it shouldn't 😭 How are you STILL making this mistake?

    • @alfreddergroe4702
      @alfreddergroe4702 8 месяцев назад

      Yes they definitely should spend more as that would boost the economy and in turn result in higher growth which would also shrink the debt to gdp ratio. The whole governments should spend less, is based on absolutely nothing but random shit someone pulled out of his ass. Like the maximum 3% more debt per year is literally a number the french thought of because it was late and they needed a number which wouldn't hurt their budget. The 60% max gdp to debt ratio was the average in the eu at that time.
      Also just look at Japan they have a lot of dept and absolutely no problems. Governments can spend and borrow money differently than individuals as they often also control the currency and can just print more. Sidenote: printing money and increasing inflation have nearly nothing to do with each other. People and politicians should learn how states work and how money works. Dept problems arise when you start spending a huge percentage of your budget to serve the dept not just by having dept. Remember increasing gdp means more taxes means less budget percentage spend on dept as you have a bigger budget. Generally governments should spend more money when the economy is weak or begins to weaken.
      Overall these are things I am desperately missing from this video

    • @yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649
      @yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649 8 месяцев назад +1

      Economy stimulation is stupid and wrong

    • @jonasastrom7422
      @jonasastrom7422 8 месяцев назад

      @@yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649 Thank you, finally someone with a brain

  • @ksj1526
    @ksj1526 8 месяцев назад +2

    How about the uk?

    • @PaulJohn01
      @PaulJohn01 8 месяцев назад +1

      Not in the EU 🤔

    • @ksj1526
      @ksj1526 8 месяцев назад

      @PaulJohn01 I know so that's why I'm asking a video of the economic outlook of the uk.

    • @PaulJohn01
      @PaulJohn01 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@ksj1526 Maybe they covered that on their sister channel TLDR UK ?

    • @ksj1526
      @ksj1526 8 месяцев назад

      @PaulJohn01 I have subscribed that channel as well, but it seems tldr hasn't made a video for the uk yet, so I hope they can make one.

    • @PaulJohn01
      @PaulJohn01 8 месяцев назад

      @@ksj1526 Well if it's negative news about the UK they definitely will 🤣🤣
      I think they removed the "UK" part from their logo but kept it on the channel name unlike all their other channels.

  • @jivkoyanchev1998
    @jivkoyanchev1998 8 месяцев назад

    Increase taxation, lower social spending and end the stupid green new deal and you'll see how most countries will start running surpluses.

    • @Andy-dg1pj
      @Andy-dg1pj 4 месяца назад

      Surplus, but will the money arrive to the lowest of the citizens or the middle class?

  • @Andy-dg1pj
    @Andy-dg1pj 4 месяца назад

    We really need the fiscal union. If we want to be propesrous countries competing against USA and China we need to finally get a federal solution to the debt problem.
    We can't have a european currency and central bank but not a european fiscal union.
    It is... Unlogic...

  • @AnonymousAlcoholic772
    @AnonymousAlcoholic772 8 месяцев назад

    The solution is obvious. We, the Greeks, owe a debt to our neighbors for showing us the way and the benefits of austerity. Thank you for helping us reform. Now, let us help you get rid of your irresponsible and profligate ways. Least we could do. AUSTERITY! AUSTERITY! AUSTERITY!

  • @alko_xo
    @alko_xo 8 месяцев назад

    Debt! Debt! Debt! Debt!

  • @Phil_AKA_ThundyUK
    @Phil_AKA_ThundyUK 8 месяцев назад +3

    I REALLY wish TLDR would learn to use EU and European properly - these are not interchangeable descriptors and your continual lack of accuracy is irritating.

  • @posthocprior
    @posthocprior 8 месяцев назад

    It wasn’t mentioned, why is Ireland the exception? That is, why does Ireland have a budget surplus?

    • @cesare4926
      @cesare4926 8 месяцев назад +8

      Because it is a tax haven for corporations and last few years the tax receipts were huge. It's what's called a windfall tax, which is basically a one off payment

    • @cormacdonnelly365
      @cormacdonnelly365 8 месяцев назад +4

      Strong economic performance boosted by corporation tax receipts, as well as two very capable finance ministers. Last Irish budget also included the creation of a sovereign wealth fund similar to Norway's, storing billions in corporation tax and placing statutory restrictions on accessing it.

  • @Phil_AKA_ThundyUK
    @Phil_AKA_ThundyUK 8 месяцев назад +2

    I know Norway isn't in the EU but you could ask them for their spare pocket money they carry around in a money clip to help out - that'd solve the entire crisis

    • @houseplant1016
      @houseplant1016 8 месяцев назад

      Countries like Norway are the ones that leeched us because of the energy prices. Norway expects us to help them when Russia attacks them, but they didn't even help Europe in the energy crisis

  • @RedXlV
    @RedXlV 7 месяцев назад

    Sure, austerity has never worked before, but Europe is going to try it again anyway.

  • @funnelhacking
    @funnelhacking 8 месяцев назад

    You know the US is in a horrendous debt situation right

  • @ant11368
    @ant11368 7 месяцев назад

    but doesn't Draghi want to raise wages after the elections?

  • @augustiner3821
    @augustiner3821 8 месяцев назад

    It must just be governed correctly: better education, controlled immigration, increasing share of women in work, better playing field for innovations, attracting foreign investment, higher productivity, better budget management, reduction of tax evasion, taxing global (tech-) companies at the source of revenues, ....

  • @nicholaswaple7801
    @nicholaswaple7801 8 месяцев назад

    I didn't know it had left ?

  • @HahaDamn
    @HahaDamn 8 месяцев назад

    The EU the countries with the largest growth rates, have the biggest deficits…

  • @Michaelcj-m2d
    @Michaelcj-m2d 8 месяцев назад +2

    Only if the conservatives and far right wing in EU elections. Like last time.

  • @helmutkohl8336
    @helmutkohl8336 8 месяцев назад

    Maybe i overlooked it in your video but there is also the thing with EU deficit rules, that there is no real scientific evidence for the numbers and rates given. For example why 3 percent for new debt per year is okay and 3.5 percent are not or that public should not be higher than 60% of total gdp and not 90%. Don't get me wrong, debt-rules are useful and important but following them stoically can cause problems like crippling public investment resulting into crumbling infrastructure, schools, etc. which I would call "structural" or "technical" debt

    • @pedrorequio5515
      @pedrorequio5515 8 месяцев назад +1

      You have to put a line somewhere. You are not fined for having more than 60%, but you have to show a path to that 60%, there are very few EU countries below the 60% threshold. The Maastricht Criteria is more complexo involving primary surpluses, Budget deficits and Structural deficits that measures future commitments.

  • @MagicShow-y4e
    @MagicShow-y4e 8 месяцев назад +1

    Another day,another crap disaster

  • @raphym.3666
    @raphym.3666 8 месяцев назад

    I may be a total dumbass in economics but... default on debt ? I mean... it would give more money for the budget, while reducing the risks of economic problems, no ? Sure, it can create some recessions, but there is already one, I don't see how it is so impossible to do. But again, I'm an absolute idiot in economy.

    • @matthewhungerford1861
      @matthewhungerford1861 8 месяцев назад

      if you default once that goes on your track record and you'll be dealing with higher interest rates for the next 60 - 90 years. As people will demand a higher return. Europe and US have lower interest rates on their debt vs other countries with similair debt burdens. Russia defaulting in the 90s still haunts it till this day it had a 8 percent till 2022 interest rate on debt even though it had no debt.

  • @Jokur-km4id
    @Jokur-km4id 8 месяцев назад +3

    Lol, that smile when she said “weak growth”😏

  • @coreymcmahon5144
    @coreymcmahon5144 8 месяцев назад

    It left?

  • @alexlehrersh9951
    @alexlehrersh9951 8 месяцев назад

    Ok where was austerity a failure?

  • @Rgdonaire_07
    @Rgdonaire_07 8 месяцев назад +4

    Mixed messages. I’ve just watched news at DW saying that EU economy is out of recession and growing as Germany is recovering.

    • @LEONSKENNEDY91
      @LEONSKENNEDY91 8 месяцев назад

      same

    • @cow_tools_
      @cow_tools_ 8 месяцев назад

      Running defecits is good for growth.

    • @yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649
      @yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@cow_tools_deficits always destroys the economy on the long term, by debt or inflation, its what happens in venezuela and argentina

    • @cow_tools_
      @cow_tools_ 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@yoroshikuonegaishimasu8649 Many of the world's growing economies have run deficits most of the time.