That fact that, Microsoft recall is enabled even on non co-pilot+pc despite lack of setting pages to turn off many options that are present on a co-pilot+pc, just sends shivers down my spine. I'm sure that someone tech savvy enough will be able to find a loophole into removing this spyware that no one asked for.
@@Britec09 will do, once have upgraded. I mean, surely it must be doing something in the background otherwise what's the point of it being enabled by default on a non co-pilot+pc after a fresh install
@@Britec09 The issue isn't that you can disable it. The issue is that Microsoft in the past has ignored user choice and enabled things users have disabled in the past. Microsoft has proven they can't be trusted.
@@martinpetrov7228 I moved to Linux specifically because of Recall. Nothing of real value was lost and I gained my freedom to OWN my computer and not be spied on. LInux won't be for everyone...but there has to be an option to get away from Microsoft's rapist mentality of forcing their new "features" on users.
@BlackCrypt Never said they was. I said people assuming Microsoft are using Recall to now on windows 11 24h2 and copying your data and sending it back to Microsoft without your knowledge are misinformed and spreading lies. This is conspiracy theorists at its best.
@@Britec09 Seriously? Have a look at an application called privacyfix and the hundreds of telemetry avenues that MS uses to capture your data. THEY SELL OUR DATA and make tons of money without your ever knowing why you get so many targeted ads. After switching to Mint Linux; targeted ads are few and far between! If you think that it's a coincidence; I have a nice bridge for sale!
I'm planning some sort of switch as well. Looks like Linux Mint cinnamon is one of the best distros, and Libre office is the best substitute for Microsoft Office. Especially since you can still save in DocX format
WTF is wrong with just using your memory? Can't anybody remember what they just did? Is it now a defacto crime to understand that everything used to be different than it is now, including the state of your work on your own computer?
Let's say a young dentist sets up his surgery in a small town with no other dentists. He does good dentistry & people are very happy. However, after 15 years he gets greedy & starts recommending treatments that no-one needed or even wanted. A few more years go by & the dentist has fewer and fewer patients coming to him. The people are driving to another town for their dental care. That is the slippery slope Microsoft is on.
So if Copilot relies on the hardware, why TF are MS installing copilot on Windows 10 computers that don't have the correct hardware to even run it? I rebooted into Windows on one of my laptops a couple days ago to find copilot reinstalled (probably after one of Windows updates). This is the second time I've had to uninstall it.
Explain to me why we need this feature? Most people have been using computers most of their life. They don't need to 'recall' anything. They can just rebuild it from scratch. Never mind that most software creates backup of everything you do, Like MS Office, so you don't really lose anything. Especially if it's in your OneDrive folder. So I ask again, why do we need recall?
@RaymondSwanson-u9y While their are quite a few conspiracy theories about Recall, it's actual purpose is not one. Recall is Microsoft's opportunity to expand ad / marketing revenue, due to Windows 11 adoption, forced by the deprecation of Windows 10. The end user feature bit, is an afterthought at best. Microsoft is attempting to pitch what would have been discovered sooner than later as additional telemetry.
Exactly. He goes to a website and reads exactly what Microsoft states. Oh well then it must be true. If (recall_enabled) {collectdata()}Else{collectdata()}
@@Britec09 What sort of useless response is this? Questioning trusting Microsoft on data privacy given even the limited history of security issues with Recall is met with a "quit moaning?" Don't make the video if you can't handle the responses.
For full truth two details must be underlined: 1) MS past record of "mission creep" of unwanted stuff in Windows. The best example is ability to log in with just local account. It was normal behavior. MS started putting obstructions and hiding it. Now it requires actively fighting with the system... They want Recall benefits for THEM, mission will creep, we must be watchful. 2) Your misconception about data being sent to MS. No, they never imagined to send all the data back, not feasible as you noted. They know it. But, they WANT it. Hence, plausible usage of the local AI analysis (just as the Apple infamous ""local CSAM detection") is to analyze everything locally and send to MS AI interpretation hashes, very tiny in size but packed with info MS wants to know. That is in the future, near future. You couldn't easily prove it either as this would be small encrypted data streams, trivial to hide.
These are the same guys who think it's a good idea to hide cut and paste. They're very actively trying to exhaust us, to make us just give up and stop trying to change the configuration. Mission creep, concentric attack, drowning us in BS
@SDAnime Linux mint is an absolute great dist, I love it. I can steam all my games out of the box, and all my apps are open source with the exception of DaVinci Resolve
When M$ announced W11 right after I built my Ryzen 5600X based system and purchasing W10 I was angry. I've tried a few Linux distros, settled on MX23 (Debian based) and have never looked back nor thought about upgrading W10 to W11. I do not trust M$ and want nothing to do with ANY of their products or experiences.
@@Britec09 I know in 10 I was able to close at least 50 Back Doors, but can't seem to find the remaining 1 or 2 (they/someone still keeps messing with it).
Many are afraid of what they are already in. All Tech industries (Apple, Android, Windows and all) fetches your data one way or the other without your knowledge They are just disguising to us all as if they are secure. So if you're not confortable with any of their inventions or their AI shenanigans just disable it. Even at that, they still have your data. 😢😢😢
We live in difficult times, trolls, misinformation, less privacy, with fans of Windows, Linux, Mac, etc. Windows, like all technology, is going in one direction, less privacy.
Linux - no. By dint of the various distros. Linux is not one operating system. It's just the kernel with other bits added. If you figure one distro is spying on you (very arguably Ubuntu, say) you can switch to, say, Mint. But even as it stands there is NOTHING like Co-pilot or Recall or Microsoft telementry under ANY Linux distro. BSD is also very anti-spyware but I grant is not ready for use by the general public. I hope, seriously, one day it will be.
It seems to me that if Recall is not doing all the things that people are worried about the what is the point of it? Why would anyone want to use any PC that is recording everything you do every 3 seconds. Its worth noting that if Microsoft are not using this to gather information because they'd never have the storage facilities for it then its not going to take long for even the largest hard disks to end up stuffed to the gunnels with screen shots. I don't trust this any further than I can throw it. Microsoft wouldn't be pushing this as such great helpful tool for the consumer unless they had an angle. As for the creator of this video , he seems to be getting a bit under hot under the collar over this issue. Any system that wants to record your activities every 3 seconds and make screenshots of your screen is absolutely not there to look after the privacy of the user... BIG BROTHER
It's not about storage space, it's about training a form of "global AI" with PC user data and storing a unique user profile that Microsoft has unique access to.
@@kikiryki If you watch the video the bloke trying to defend this says that Microsoft couldn't possibly collect screenshots from every user on the planet because they'd never be able to store it all. So if they can't store it and they know we don't want it. Why are they installing it into Windows? We need to be looking at the motivation.
@@Midiroms My idea is that a complex AI-based profiling system is being implemented that will underpin the future social credit system, a kind of "Real-time Judgment Day every day" for every man on the planet. That the system will run locally or in the cloud are already details. And these systems will be implemented so you can't stop them
I just find it weird that Microsoft products used to be so user friendly years ago now they are trying to constantly include features that the 95% of us will never use or need. All I need and want is a pc that can run office. Run a browser. Run a game here and there. I’m not really a gamer. But it just seems like all these newer versions of windows are more and more full of unnecessary bloat every day. I’ve dabbled in Linux a few times to keep older hardware useful with great success. But certain editions of windows it was basically released and well guess it’s time to buy a new pc. When vista came out. I stayed on xp because of the requirements. When 8 came out I stayed on 7 because of the interface. Now 10 is being replaced by 11 and my hardware that doesn’t meet the requirements can clearly run it perfectly.. Just has more hoops thrown in the way and junk included in 11 than I want to deal with. Seriously considering switching to Linux for a simpler headache free experience for me.
I've tried Linux can't get around the system without using Sudo or whatever commands you have to use in order to install certain software.Like for instance steam and proton is really not ideal for gaming.
Just like encryption used to be an optional feature and is now forced in 24H2. Can still be turned off, but requires work. Recall is force installed now, even if not working sitting and waiting to be turned on, or just on and giving MS everything anyway. This was shown by people making custom debloated builds of 11 and shoed that the system in crippled without Recall installed, and no way to uninstall. Very soon it will be forced and not controllable as MS wants it.
Nobody wants this program, I mean why build it in the first place? People are already finding ways to block MS from interfering with the PCs in terms of telemetry, diagnostics, etc. Why doesn't MS get the message.
@@mikespangler98 I agree. I think those sweet, sweet advertising dollars is what this is all about. They will be using AI on your machine to look over your data in order to push focused advertising on you. There's always the chance that there will be more nefarious stuff happening further down the track but the advertising bucks is where it will start as they can do all this without breaching any of the claims they've made to date.
Information is THE global currency. Probably every government around the Earth that has the money is accumulating personal data as fast as they can. Those attempting to implement a global government included. "Mr. Microsoft" Bill Gates is a true, blue global fascist. Do the math. There is NO GOOD REASON for this software EXCEPT for collecting data and monetizing it.
Every one of your videos makes me want to stay with Windows 10 until October 14, 2025. Perhaps Windows 12 will be out by then. Windows 11 is a bloody nightmare.
They can't do it yet, not possible and when they do or if they do, it will need a NPU chip to run, maybe intel or AMD will add this to motherboards or specials CPU for desktop PC's. Again this will NOT be mandatroy
@@Britec09 i dont believe this bs whatsoever, spyware program existed a long time ago ... so i am pretty sure recall can work on every modern pc maybe not easily but it is possible and maybe without the local llm but with the cloud llm ....
Think about it! Why is MS insisting on putting Recall on all computers if only a handful of those computers are going to be using it? MS with Recall is like a psychopath with a loaded gun. He may not shoot that gun this second, but he will surely shoot it at some point. It's not about what MS is doing at this second: it's about what MS can and will do in the future. Don't just sit there and trust the psychopath not to shoot!
Or it could be enabled by China to monitor Chinese abroad. Or to gather info on scientists, politicians, financial managers. Lots of potential for abuse by bad actors.
If the service is not doing anything, then WHY DOES IT SHOW UP IN 24H2 on non Copilot+ PCs!?!? NO, NOT IN THE SETTINGS APP. In your own screenshots in this video and the last video, you showed that it not only exists, but also how to disable it on the command line using the dism command. Plus, you have also demonstrated it being enabled (even if it's not doing anything that we can prove) by default and without any of the GUI prompts to turn it on when it's supposed to be "opt in". Maybe Microsoft decided there's no need for any GUI prompts or settings for it when it doesn't do anything on Copilot+ PCs, but with the current flood of "answers" online about it, many just doing research to try and find out the truth would probably say that's a "BIG" assumption. If we are to believe Microsoft's official answer on their website as you have shown us, then why does the service exist on non Copilot+ PCs if it's not supposed to be doing anything? Why is it enabled by default on non Copilot+ PCs even though there's no prompt to the user about its existence and no reference to it anywhere in the graphical settings app? These are not unreasonable questions to be asked. Regardless of all the panic flying around the Internet over it, simply asking why it exists on a non Copilot+ PC and what it's for is only logical. Going through Microsoft's website on what Recall does and it's system requirements does not properly answer these questions. You know, Microsoft could just come out and say that the binary exists because Windows 11 on Copilot+ PCs and traditional PCs share the same code base and it doesn't actually do anything on traditional PCs. That would be a simple technical answer, but where's that statement? Why haven't they come out and said that Windows shares code among different types of computers and that there will be some "overlap" but it doesn't mean it's doing anything? None of what you have shown on Microsoft's website states this flat out. Microsoft's bad handling of questions from the tech community isn't helping the situation. I personally think it exists on non Copilot+ PCs because of that shared code base and as a result is probably benign, but given all the bad PR around Windows 11 and the fact that it's hidden away and you need to use the command line to disable it with the dism command, Microsoft's failure to come out and address it directly has allowed all the conspiracy theories, FUD, and what ever "answer" people come up with on their own to spread like wildfire. Why Microsoft has been silent on this to allow the tech community run wild with their own "answers" is another perfectly reasonable question for people to be asking. Lastly, when you pointed out that Recall won't be sending screenshots to Microsoft, that same page makes no mention of anything from the database formed by it reading those screenshots getting sent to Microsoft. I agree, sending screenshots would be ridiculous given the amount of storage Microsoft would need, but why haven't they made the same statement about the database? We know that the processing occurs locally on the Copilot+ PC and the screenshots never leave, but there isn't a statement stating the database (or even meta data from it) would never get sent to Microsoft. Without going into the conspiracy theories about this (seriously, others are WAY more creative than I could ever be), it's not unreasonable to ask why they haven't made a statement about it. I get what you're trying to do here and be the level headed person in the sea of crazy people, but if you put aside the conspiracies and only look at the questions being asked that frankly don't have good answers, then your own explanations (which are very reasonable) don't resolve anything either. The only one who can actually resolve this is Microsoft, but until they do, the mess will continue. It's not a conspiracy theory to say that this mess was created by Microsoft. The tech community wants proper answers, but in the absence of such answers, the void will be filled by something else, as "colorful" as it may be.
Microsoft are incapable of giving information, straight answers to straight questions, and have always been the same. Their normal comment (if they comment) is usually "We have nothing to share at this time".
I really do not see why a person would want or need this feature. If I wanted this feature, I would rather prefer to use a third party app. The fact that Microsoft is adding this feature is to benefit them or perhaps the government. Yes I know we can disable it, but it still creaps me out that the feature is on there in the first place.
Sure files are local, but not data Ai will create and sumarize in text form, feature exist for making money of you, otherwise they would not create sometching so unwanted and controversial and still push it so hard on people.
Very level headed video explanation Brian. Thank you. 👍 (Although I had already ran out and blocked all our business PC's upgrading to 24H2 just in case on Sunday afternoon 😂)
Chears mate, just trying to help people understand and stop people believing some of the rubbish I have read in comments, most are just illinformed or paranoid. Maybe the internet is not for them.
I'm still using XP, Win7, Win10, and Server 2003. I will continue to use them. I will NEVER use Windows 11. The only reason I'm not using Linux is the applications I use. It would be a real chore to find replacements for some of them. Fortunately I am a programmer since 1984 and know my way around, and have written numerous programs to get around MS crap and even get MS crap to work properly.
Music to my ears. I have a PC running XP and Battlefield 2 connected to the internet without being hacked for 17 years. I just bought two powerful, expensive PCs to be able to run Windows 10 before chipset and drivers demand Windows 11. I've worked in IT since the 80s. I had Windows 7 on my home computer until six months ago, when I bought a new PC to run video editing software I needed. I dislike Windows 11. The interface is ridiculous - imagine "hiding" copy and paste functions??! Microsoft changes things just for the sake of it, without any good reason. Why rearrange everything when you've just learned the interface well? It takes 8-10 years to make an operating system stable and good. Before everyone has switched to Windows 11, they'll probably release Windows 12. I left the IT industry this summer when I felt fed up about how bad it is these days. I now only do small jobs when I feel like it on systems I like to work with.
It is all well and good saying that MS have announced what they are doing through blog posts, but the problem Brian is that even if MS aren’t doing anything nefarious, they should make their users more aware of new features such as Recall. I was speaking to my brother about the problems 24H2 is giving people. He isn’t a big computer nerd, and when i brought up about Recall, his first response was what’s that? And there is your problem, the average unsavvy user doesn't know about these changes. And some are probably wondering why there’s this 8GB of space now being taken up or why their computer is laggy because Recall is enabled by default. I wasn’t able to test 24H2 on my main machine to see for myself what it’s like on that as it gives me a boot error. So i wasn’t able to see all they’ve done. But they do need to do better in making their users aware of a new feature, what it does and if they would like it enabled.
I just got Copilot on my Windows 10 machine, so I am anticipating and expecting them with great certainty to add recall to it too. I'm seriously considering trying to switch to Linux full time now.
While this is undoubtedly correct ,Microsoft rarely does things that don't benefit Microsoft in some way. Incorporating Internet Explorer into the core of the operating system 20+ years ago required anti-trust action to overcome. As Brian says, choose your operating system based on the features you want or require and weigh up their respective benefits and detriments. As a relatively savvy retiree who does not require any gaming beyond sudoku and solitaire Linux does everything I require daily for personal use. For my voluntary work I still require access to an old copy of MYOB running on a local Windows machine but I will probably recommend that we move to cloud based accounting software, expensive as that is, then move to Linux for that purpose too.
I use W10. This morning, Windows update KB5045594 installed itself and COPILOT has now ensconced itself on my taskbar!! I don't want it, so I'm now going to spend ages trying to figure out how to get rid of it. Is it okay to uninstall CoPilot completely, or will that have an adverse effect on any other functions? Any comment would be very much appreciated, thank you.
One thing i disagree with is that theyd need petabytes to grab screen records. All you have to do is have the ai on system detect if something is criminal (i.e. cee pee) and then send it to a databank for further investigation or processing.
@@notanimufailzone Not full proof but you separate enough of the stuff where you can analyze what is left. Places already do this with cloud storage and email solutions, I'm pretty sure google got caught doing it with gmail.
all information in this video was just quoting what microsoft has told us, to truly disprove the misconceptions you need to prove it yourself by peering through a windows 11 system and showing precisely what its doing in the background.
Its funny how so many people did not even know the infomation on Microsoft sites, because if they did, they would not be so wrong and saying silly stuff. The information is out there.
@@Britec09 alright so lets assume for the sake of your arguement that recall can be disabled by the user either from the click of a button or a command in the command prompt. what is to stop microsoft from turning it back on after a security update? ive done this myself Ive disabled some things in windows 10 for example and after a security update I had to once again go in and disable certain features. there is no possible way you can defend MS here m8.
omg why are you saying only on co pilot+ pcs only .. i have removed windows from 3 pcs now going to Linux cause i DID find copilot and recall .. also found the file storage for recall that was non removable.. as we all know that Microsoft loves to re enable features that we turn off even to the registry and admin system tools after every little update are you going to trust them not to turn this feature on later down the road .. also the 3 pcs i had with windows wasn't even 11 but windows 10 24h2.. im also a A+,NET+, MSCE,CCNA so tell me i DONT know what im looking at.
You're talking rubbish Christopher and its comments like that trying to fearmonger people. A+,NET+, MSCE,CCNA really? first of all. Windows 10 does not have 24H2. Only has Windows 10 22H2 😂 learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-home-and-pro So you DON'T know what your talking about. 😂 You need better training. NEXT!!!
I do agree for now it's mostly mountains out of molehills. Worth pointing out though that Microsoft has zettabytes of storage available for data collection, not petabytes. What's your take on Titus' coverage yesterday?
Hi Brian, thanks for the video. Yes, many users have misunderstood how the Recall feature works. It is not mandatory on Windows 11 24H2, as you also mention in your video. Microsoft has changed a lot in the Recall feature; it will be an opt-in feature, which I think is very good. It requires a Neural Processing Unit (NPU) and a Copilot+ PC right now. Then the Recall feature will come to Intel and AMD later from what I have heard, but it will also require new hardware, an NPU, and so on. But personally, I will not use the Recall feature if I buy a Copilot+ PC or another computer that supports the Recall feature in the future. Such a great video, Brian, where you also clarify how the feature works. I live in Sweden, so it seems right now I will have the option to uninstall the Recall Feature if I buy a computer that meets the requirements for the Recall Feature, but I think that everyone in the world should also be able to uninstall the Recall Feature if they want to. Take care Brian and have a lovely day in the UK
Thanks for the clarification. I'm still a little leery about updating, but this makes me feel a little bit better. Still haven't seen if they've rolled out a patch for it, yet (so it's still like gambling with loaded dice).
I'm staying on 23H2 until the bugs are ironed out and until the Github community create some tweaking scripts for 24H2. NEVER trust Microsoft's word...they say this but they'll do the opposite.
Copilot (not copilot +) was installed on my Windows 10 Home PC in the last big 22H2 update other day. I did have the option to remove it though "as a new APP installed" during that last update. But my point is. Copilot is being installed on Windows 10 machines in 22H2 update offered
This is one of the most egregious things MS has ever done. AI is still in it's infancy. The devs at MS cannot write even simple OS updates and features, must less something as complicated as AI. AI will take many years to be ready for deployment to home users. SMH. As someone who has used MS since the days of DOS, i may finally make the switch to Linux on all of my computers.
I just want to let you know I'm glad I found you I've been watching tons of your videos it's been very helpful I'm all in thank you keep it up you've extremely help me fix a few things that I was just on the verge of trying to figure out thank you
NVIDIA RTX 4090, boast over 1300 TOPS Copilot+ 40 TOPS u speak in there like this thin and light laptops got some special alien tech there is no way recall is not gonna be forced for everybody at some point
My guess is that, for proprietary reasons, the software was written by dozens of separate offices with no idea how their own little part fits into the whole. No doubt it won't work the way the chiefs hoped, and will remain bug-ridden, glitchy, and need constant updating. The next version in some Windows 13 will work better.
There are guides on YT showing how to strip the windows11 iso of bloat and recall. Ive just done it myself and it's a terrific way to fight back. Don't give up the fight!
Saying that Recall doesn’t send screenshots to MS because that would lead to an unmanageable amount of data doesn’t take into account that the AI will interpret images and all, and could send these very accurate interpretations as relatively small (text) files, thereby eliminating the need for extremely big storage facilities. I am not saying this will happen (right away), but it does invalidate the needed storage argument
I didn't expect MS to copy the images themselves. But does it still store the interpretation by the bot of what it sees in a plain text? That can be easily checked via a backdoor and hackers could also get their hands on it. I have registered that MS is going to secure these materials better now than it initially planned (and received a deserved criticim), but knowing MS even that will have some holes. And pobably the user will be blamed.
1º Make everything depend on it. EVEN ON DEVICES THAT 'DONT SUPPORT'. (If you remove this recall from non copilot+ pcs the file explore stops working) 2º Can't remove only disable because everything depends on it. 3º Updates now enables it by default. Only mentally reparted people cant see where this is going. There is a music named "Comfortably Dumb" that describes people that want's to be ignorant.
You instantly made me think of "Comfortably Numb" by Pink Floyd. I use W10. This morning, Windows update KB5045594 installed itself and COPILOT has now ensconced itself on my taskbar!! I don't want it, so I'm now going to spend ages trying to figure out how to get rid of it. Is it okay to uninstall CoPilot completely, or will that have an adverse effect on any other functions? From what you've said, though, it seems I should only disable it. Any comment would be very much appreciated, thank you.
@@EIRE55 "Is it okay to uninstall CoPilot completely, or will that have an adverse effect on any other functions? " As things are looking you will not be able to uninstall copilit without breaking basic things on windows.
@@nempk1817 Thanks for getting back to me. Funnily enough, I've just got a reply about the same question from the @brentech channel creator, and he says it's okay to uninstall it. I guess I'm going to have to think about this before I do anything. Thanks again and stay safe and well, wherever you are.
Stop panicking it's not enabled on non-copilot pc's... for now ! And you can disable it... until the next upgrade to turn it on again without you to know. Oh and its opt-in... like any microsoft opt-in turning opt-out and mandatory at the end. Really, stop panicking, it's just Microsoft usual thing for your own good.
Hmmm, 3060 apparently has about 100 TOPS so a dedicated NPU is not required ju7st a modern day GPU so basically any modern PC running a modern day GPU can be a Windows Co-pilot recall PC as long as it has the storage space aswell !
Check If Recall Is ON : Dism /Online /Get-Featureinfo /Featurename:Recall Depending on your preference these commands can either ENABLE or DISABLE the software. Disable RECALL: Dism /Online /Disable-Feature /Featurename:Recall Enable RECALL: Dism /Online /Enable-Feature /Featurename:Recall
I use W10. This morning, Windows update KB5045594 installed itself and COPILOT has now ensconced itself on my taskbar!! I don't want it, so I'm now going to spend ages trying to figure out how to get rid of it. Is it okay to uninstall CoPilot completely, or will that have an adverse effect on any other functions? Any comment would be very much appreciated, thank you.
So long it is possible to disable it I won't have any problem. Hade done a few tests on different pc's an with Recall enabled you will lose from 0-10% of pc power, and the worst is on a laptop running on battery. Other than that I still can't see any good use of Recall, so this disable command is copied right on my desktop to use for further updates (We all know how MS pushing things back)
Brian, you said: "(...) it would need petabytes of storage every single day if it was copying everyone's PC in the world (...)" - Actually no... the whole point on forcing Recall on PCs with AI capabilities is to make them do the hard work themselves, at the user's expense. Once the desired info is spotted in a screenshot, e.g. a list of logins and passwords that the user has opened in a password-protected file, that list of logins and passwords is converted into pure text and represents only a few kilobytes to be potentially transmitted.
Copilot is on all iso from Microsoft now and there is no setting to disable it. Wth the hell is there no simple button to just disable copilot.why is this forced. Then theres the fact that the status of snapshots is on even though it is supposedly opt in. How does that make sense?? The theres the other fact that even if you disable it, only eu pc can completely remove the trash spyware. Holy shyt Microsoft. They are as the linux fanboys make them out to be in this case. I am still on windows 10 and will upgrade last minute to 11. Wish linux wasnt as trash an os. I'd have made the switch already if it wasnt.
Microsoft has been preparing to do this for years. It issues a lot of gee-whiz goobledygook because it can't say that keylogging slows down older computers so much you'll notice it. That's why the nonsense about Windows 11 "not working" on older computers that run Windows 10 just fine (even when they do have TPM 2.0 and Bitlocker). That's why Windows 12 will require faster, more-powerful hardware too. That's why "helper" bloatware such as Cortana gets you used to newer computers being no faster than old ones. And that's why they keep moving around and hiding configuration settings. When they DO install and activate real-time monitoring through an overnight update, you'll never notice it. The computer's just as sluggish as ever and the drives and Internet connection are being constantly driven as usual.
What is the difference between the new on processor NPUs and the tensor cores on many graphics cards? Can the NPU be used or shared by any other software - is that hardware feature open to devs? BTW, the NSA has PETA bytes of storage, just saying.
I believe the tensor cores on dedicated GPUs are far more powerful than an NPU, but the NPU is far more power efficient. Or something like that. I'm not completely sure, it was a while ago I checked it, so I might misremember.
I disabled this sh** and my processor is even cooler now! It was strange to me, because Ryzen 5 4600G is a very cool cpu, the fact that it was 4-5 degrees hotter with 24h2 makes me wonder a lot of things!
I use W10. This morning, Windows update KB5045594 installed itself and COPILOT has now ensconced itself on my taskbar!! I don't want it, so I'm now going to spend ages trying to figure out how to get rid of it. Is it okay to uninstall CoPilot completely, or will that have an adverse effect on any other functions? Any comment would be very much appreciated, thank you.
@Uchiha409, let's do a thought experiment: you come home one day and you see that your neighbour's house is on fire. you see it's just a small fire and nothing has really burned yet, but you know how fire is. what do you do: 1. nothing. its not your house, after all, so who cares? or; 2. knock on your neighbour's door and inform them that if they dont take care of the fire, their house could burn down...and potentially take the neighbourhood with it. the fire might not affect you at first, but it has the potential to really mess things up for many / everyone. what would you do?
At this point normal people will not swich to linux any time soon tbh the only way make people switching to linux if microsoft start making the Windows OS as subcritption service ( BET your bottom dollar they will do it since they spend billons on AI, the Blizzard-Activition aqusition, etc) then is a total switch to linux.
Also recall will now store the data in a VBS Enclave, which is an encrypted virtual machine. "Supposedly" not even Microsoft could access the data if they wanted to. Of course if you are using your computer for illegal activity, I would probably still not trust doing that activity on a recall enabled computer. For the majority of everyone else, it will probably be safe. But I for one will not have the thing enabled. I don't care to see what I did on my computer 3 weeks ago. If I need to capture something, I use Greenshot as my capture program.
It would be nice if a software engineer or computer programmer can examine the Windows recall feature and clear it up for us if it really sends snapshots to Microsoft. I run Windows 11 23H2 on my AMD Threadripper 3960X build.
This is kind of different, but I was chatting with Copilot AI in Windows, asked me a survey question in the middle of the chat and when I answered, the copilot window flashed white, more than likely took a screenshot without my permission, and my PC is not copilot compatible.
If it's only for copilot+ pcs, why is it installed on my non copilot+ pc? And why did I have to disable in order for it to be labeled as disabled? Also why was it made a dependency of windows explorer and I can't uninstall it. They had to do this for a reason, and I can't think of any that are good.
What stops Microsoft from streamlining ReCall in the future and silently automatically enabling it as a hidden background integrated component without the users knowledge. Screw that I'm moving over to Mint. I have been a windows client and server admin for 25 years and this is the final straw. Goodbye MS.
The issue of MS accessing sensitive user data has nothing to do with Recall or anything forthcoming. And has been around since long before Win 11. If someone is using Windows then they agreed to the “END-USER LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR MICROSOFT SOFTWARE IMPORTANT-READ CAREFULLY:” 12pages of legal jargon but the right for Microsoft to access the data stored in Windows is clearly provided for in paragraph 8” Consent to Use of Data” of the user agreement. A pdf of this agreement can be downloaded from Microsoft.
Recall will be removable do not fall for the scare tactics. So funny when folks decry their leaving for Linux to take control, I say take control of your Windows don't run tail between legs giving up! I do not get automatic updates via group policy editor. Many apps out there to help you take control.
well i just switched to Linux so micro$oft can keep their Recall to them self and now i can use my pc years to come and others will end up in the Landfall what a shame Microsoft
Hi Brian. I want to ask as Microsoft is taking snapshots of everything in 24h2 . Are they uploading all these snapshots in cloud. If not . Than in which directory or folder these snapshots are really going where we can manually delete them. . As u have told we cannot block this recall feature
Doesn't mean because you don't see recall in settings that it is not there were talking about microsoft here they hide stuff in registry and gpedit . You keep saying this is not true coming from a guy 2 years ago that used to say microsoft don't collect data but what do i know i only do crappy windows support on the side but at least i can stay objective and not believe everything microsoft say.
You are one of the conspiracy theory group, assuming they are copying your data and sending back to Microsoft. Don't be that person accusing people, provide evidence Steve to backup your claims, otherwise you are spreding misinformation.
@@Britec09 Evidence of what look at your network connections that are not needed just for data collection or just the fact of every stupid tutorials you do to show privacy you always have to go in registry or gpedit dude im just like you i do tech i see this crap every day and it is border line criminal what microsoft,google,facebook do but google and micosoft is worst because it's not just online service but os level.
Look i'm not part of conspiracy group like you said but i'm just trying to say you can assume that we are all stupid and say something is not possible when they clearly are.
Tell me what user's are asking for this feature and why it's got to go on pc, and by the way I have an i9 pc which is 3yrs old and I have seen copilot and deleted it twice so far
Just did a reinstall, dual booting, windows is strictly for gaming and Linux is for everything else. 🖖 Thank you for showing how to disable recall. My CPU kept going to 100% when gaming after disabling recall it dropped to 70%. 🤘
@@Britec09 Release date is October 24 so fair point. Still I predict much trouble in the future, and not just for MS. For me it's Ntlite FTW, everything is gone on my game box including Defender, onedrive and bitlocker, and I'm sure happy that I have an external firewall that will not give all this junk a free pass to home base.
That fact that, Microsoft recall is enabled even on non co-pilot+pc despite lack of setting pages to turn off many options that are present on a co-pilot+pc, just sends shivers down my spine. I'm sure that someone tech savvy enough will be able to find a loophole into removing this spyware that no one asked for.
Just disable it and turn off in group policy
@@Britec09 will do, once have upgraded. I mean, surely it must be doing something in the background otherwise what's the point of it being enabled by default on a non co-pilot+pc after a fresh install
@@Britec09 The issue isn't that you can disable it. The issue is that Microsoft in the past has ignored user choice and enabled things users have disabled in the past. Microsoft has proven they can't be trusted.
@@StaceyAyodele Yep, and it has nothing to do with "crazy conspiracy theories" - it's a fact, so any reasonable person would be skeptical.
@@martinpetrov7228 I moved to Linux specifically because of Recall. Nothing of real value was lost and I gained my freedom to OWN my computer and not be spied on.
LInux won't be for everyone...but there has to be an option to get away from Microsoft's rapist mentality of forcing their new "features" on users.
People concerned about their privacy are not conspiracy theorists.
As soon as a debate opponent resorts to name-calling, he already lost the argument.
@BlackCrypt Never said they was. I said people assuming Microsoft are using Recall to now on windows 11 24h2 and copying your data and sending it back to Microsoft without your knowledge are misinformed and spreading lies. This is conspiracy theorists at its best.
yep, that needs to stop. gaslighting people like that
Fucking shill @@Britec09
@@Britec09 Seriously? Have a look at an application called privacyfix and the hundreds of telemetry avenues that MS uses to capture your data.
THEY SELL OUR DATA and make tons of money without your ever knowing why you get so many targeted ads.
After switching to Mint Linux; targeted ads are few and far between!
If you think that it's a coincidence; I have a nice bridge for sale!
I trust MS so much that I switched to Linux 4 months ago and never looked back!
Way to go bro, good going.
I'm seriously thinking of going back to Linux, in fact I'm downloading the latest Feren OS.
You have got completely blind and stupid ! Now you have become Torvald's B!TCH WHO WORK FOR FREE so he can ..brag...with your ..sweat...
I'm planning some sort of switch as well. Looks like Linux Mint cinnamon is one of the best distros, and Libre office is the best substitute for Microsoft Office. Especially since you can still save in DocX format
Know who I don't trust? People who use the terms "misinformation", "disinformation", and "malinformation".
WTF is wrong with just using your memory? Can't anybody remember what they just did? Is it now a defacto crime to understand that everything used to be different than it is now, including the state of your work on your own computer?
Let's say a young dentist sets up his surgery in a small town with no other dentists. He does good dentistry & people are very happy. However, after 15 years he gets greedy & starts recommending treatments that no-one needed or even wanted. A few more years go by & the dentist has fewer and fewer patients coming to him. The people are driving to another town for their dental care. That is the slippery slope Microsoft is on.
Spot on, Brent!!
Well said if it weren't for a game or 2 and a few programs I could go to Linux in a heartbeat.
So if Copilot relies on the hardware, why TF are MS installing copilot on Windows 10 computers that don't have the correct hardware to even run it? I rebooted into Windows on one of my laptops a couple days ago to find copilot reinstalled (probably after one of Windows updates). This is the second time I've had to uninstall it.
Explain to me why we need this feature? Most people have been using computers most of their life. They don't need to 'recall' anything. They can just rebuild it from scratch. Never mind that most software creates backup of everything you do, Like MS Office, so you don't really lose anything. Especially if it's in your OneDrive folder. So I ask again, why do we need recall?
Big Companies would benefit from recall, but they also don't trust it.
@RaymondSwanson-u9y While their are quite a few conspiracy theories about Recall, it's actual purpose is not one. Recall is Microsoft's opportunity to expand ad / marketing revenue, due to Windows 11 adoption, forced by the deprecation of Windows 10. The end user feature bit, is an afterthought at best. Microsoft is attempting to pitch what would have been discovered sooner than later as additional telemetry.
RECALL = REC ALL = record all
Everything he said is dependent upon Trusting what Microsoft says, and everyone knows just how open, honest and upfront Microsoft is, ... right?
Don't trust Microsoft? use something else and stop your moaning.
Exactly. He goes to a website and reads exactly what Microsoft states. Oh well then it must be true.
If (recall_enabled) {collectdata()}Else{collectdata()}
@@Britec09 What sort of useless response is this? Questioning trusting Microsoft on data privacy given even the limited history of security issues with Recall is met with a "quit moaning?" Don't make the video if you can't handle the responses.
This brit "tech" guy is sold.and bought for..
@@Britec09”stop moaning” when literally everyone who knows anything about privacy and security is up in arms about this feature
This particular video sounds like it is running cover for MS.
For full truth two details must be underlined: 1) MS past record of "mission creep" of unwanted stuff in Windows. The best example is ability to log in with just local account. It was normal behavior. MS started putting obstructions and hiding it. Now it requires actively fighting with the system... They want Recall benefits for THEM, mission will creep, we must be watchful. 2) Your misconception about data being sent to MS. No, they never imagined to send all the data back, not feasible as you noted. They know it. But, they WANT it. Hence, plausible usage of the local AI analysis (just as the Apple infamous ""local CSAM detection") is to analyze everything locally and send to MS AI interpretation hashes, very tiny in size but packed with info MS wants to know. That is in the future, near future. You couldn't easily prove it either as this would be small encrypted data streams, trivial to hide.
These are the same guys who think it's a good idea to hide cut and paste. They're very actively trying to exhaust us, to make us just give up and stop trying to change the configuration. Mission creep, concentric attack, drowning us in BS
That's right !
You nailed it. You're exactly right
I'm still on Win 10 and been looking over Linux distributions. To see what I like the best.
Start on Linux Mint OS, Zorin OS, Tuxedo OS, use for a year then branch out, when you are comfortable if you like.
@SDAnime Linux mint is an absolute great dist, I love it. I can steam all my games out of the box, and all my apps are open source with the exception of DaVinci Resolve
Ubuntu or Mint. My personal favorites. You wont gain anything from os hopping, I have been there done that. Just use which you like more 😊
I'm still on Win_7, thats all I need ...
i use Linux mint realy easy to use and hundreads of videos to help you set up for games.
This is what finally tipped me over the edge into using Linux as my main desktop OS.
Will do same next year or switch to Apple.
The NSA's Recall delivered and supported by Micro$oft.
Yep 👍
Still not going to install Windows 11; can't and wont trust Microsoft!
When M$ announced W11 right after I built my Ryzen 5600X based system and purchasing W10 I was angry. I've tried a few Linux distros, settled on MX23 (Debian based) and have never looked back nor thought about upgrading W10 to W11. I do not trust M$ and want nothing to do with ANY of their products or experiences.
Windows is Windows, no matter what you use.
@@Britec09 I know in 10 I was able to close at least 50 Back Doors, but can't seem to find the remaining 1 or 2 (they/someone still keeps messing with it).
Many are afraid of what they are already in.
All Tech industries (Apple, Android, Windows and all) fetches your data one way or the other without your knowledge
They are just disguising to us all as if they are secure.
So if you're not confortable with any of their inventions or their AI shenanigans just disable it. Even at that, they still have your data. 😢😢😢
@@terryleach5108 I'm no MS fanboy, but why did that make you angry? A Ryzen 5600X will run Win11, and the upgrade is free.
We live in difficult times, trolls, misinformation, less privacy, with fans of Windows, Linux, Mac, etc. Windows, like all technology, is going in one direction, less privacy.
We have no privacy.
@@Britec09 "Oh dear, you are a frightened person, maybe the internet is not for you buddy."
You retarded troll.
Linux - no. By dint of the various distros. Linux is not one operating system. It's just the kernel with other bits added. If you figure one distro is spying on you (very arguably Ubuntu, say) you can switch to, say, Mint. But even as it stands there is NOTHING like Co-pilot or Recall or Microsoft telementry under ANY Linux distro.
BSD is also very anti-spyware but I grant is not ready for use by the general public. I hope, seriously, one day it will be.
It seems to me that if Recall is not doing all the things that people are worried about the what is the point of it? Why would anyone want to use any PC that is recording everything you do every 3 seconds. Its worth noting that if Microsoft are not using this to gather information because they'd never have the storage facilities for it then its not going to take long for even the largest hard disks to end up stuffed to the gunnels with screen shots. I don't trust this any further than I can throw it. Microsoft wouldn't be pushing this as such great helpful tool for the consumer unless they had an angle. As for the creator of this video , he seems to be getting a bit under hot under the collar over this issue. Any system that wants to record your activities every 3 seconds and make screenshots of your screen is absolutely not there to look after the privacy of the user... BIG BROTHER
It's not about storage space, it's about training a form of "global AI" with PC user data and storing a unique user profile that Microsoft has unique access to.
@@kikiryki If you watch the video the bloke trying to defend this says that Microsoft couldn't possibly collect screenshots from every user on the planet because they'd never be able to store it all. So if they can't store it and they know we don't want it. Why are they installing it into Windows? We need to be looking at the motivation.
@@Midiroms My idea is that a complex AI-based profiling system is being implemented that will underpin the future social credit system, a kind of "Real-time Judgment Day every day" for every man on the planet. That the system will run locally or in the cloud are already details. And these systems will be implemented so you can't stop them
@@kikirykilol
I just find it weird that Microsoft products used to be so user friendly years ago now they are trying to constantly include features that the 95% of us will never use or need. All I need and want is a pc that can run office. Run a browser. Run a game here and there. I’m not really a gamer. But it just seems like all these newer versions of windows are more and more full of unnecessary bloat every day. I’ve dabbled in Linux a few times to keep older hardware useful with great success. But certain editions of windows it was basically released and well guess it’s time to buy a new pc. When vista came out. I stayed on xp because of the requirements. When 8 came out I stayed on 7 because of the interface. Now 10 is being replaced by 11 and my hardware that doesn’t meet the requirements can clearly run it perfectly.. Just has more hoops thrown in the way and junk included in 11 than I want to deal with. Seriously considering switching to Linux for a simpler headache free experience for me.
I think a lot of people will use Linux soon, especially those with old hardware. Linux is not bad if you can get on with it.
I've tried Linux can't get around the system without using Sudo or whatever commands you have to use in order to install certain software.Like for instance steam and proton is really not ideal for gaming.
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These days, when I hear the word misinformation, I automatically assume that whatever is claimed is either lies or that vital information is withheld.
Just like encryption used to be an optional feature and is now forced in 24H2. Can still be turned off, but requires work. Recall is force installed now, even if not working sitting and waiting to be turned on, or just on and giving MS everything anyway. This was shown by people making custom debloated builds of 11 and shoed that the system in crippled without Recall installed, and no way to uninstall. Very soon it will be forced and not controllable as MS wants it.
Nobody wants this program, I mean why build it in the first place? People are already finding ways to block MS from interfering with the PCs in terms of telemetry, diagnostics, etc. Why doesn't MS get the message.
Just like any other Big company they simply stopped caring around wind 8 and windows 7 is where all this garbage stems from.
They get your message, but the 💰🤑💵 from the advertisers speaks louder, far louder.
@@mikespangler98 I agree. I think those sweet, sweet advertising dollars is what this is all about. They will be using AI on your machine to look over your data in order to push focused advertising on you. There's always the chance that there will be more nefarious stuff happening further down the track but the advertising bucks is where it will start as they can do all this without breaching any of the claims they've made to date.
Information is THE global currency.
Probably every government around the Earth that has the money is accumulating personal data as fast as they can.
Those attempting to implement a global government included.
"Mr. Microsoft" Bill Gates is a true, blue global fascist.
Do the math.
There is NO GOOD REASON for this software EXCEPT for collecting data and monetizing it.
Every one of your videos makes me want to stay with Windows 10 until October 14, 2025. Perhaps Windows 12 will be out by then. Windows 11 is a bloody nightmare.
Windows 11 23H2 is stable
@gtech66 What makes you think W12 will be any better than W11? Microsoft will continue this path with W12.
I just got Copilot on my Windows 10 machine, so I'm considering just jumping ship from Windows early and switching full time to Linux.
@@Britec09 Not on my machines
Windows 12 will be even worse knowing Microsoft.
Nope it will not be rolled out to EVERY PC since some of us run Linux 😅. Easy question, even simpler answer 😂.
I don't think Microsoft can resist the urge to put Recall on "non-Copilot+PCS" eventually, unfortunately.
They can't do it yet, not possible and when they do or if they do, it will need a NPU chip to run, maybe intel or AMD will add this to motherboards or specials CPU for desktop PC's. Again this will NOT be mandatroy
@@Britec09 You have no clue what youre talking about. I literally just watched a researcher do it. Go away you pathetic troll.
@@Britec09 They could do it if they don't intergrate high level AI. I have a feeling it will be as mandatory as OneDrive.
@@Britec09 i dont believe this bs whatsoever, spyware program existed a long time ago ... so i am pretty sure recall can work on every modern pc maybe not easily but it is possible and maybe without the local llm but with the cloud llm ....
@@xgui4-studios with m$...if there's a will... there's a way....
coming soon to a w$ pc near you
Windows 12 is expected to be released in July to October 2025 :) a new nightmare begins :)
Expert are saying new requirements needed for 12 CPU+NPU+Turbo charged. Plus we may have to pay monthly or yearly.
@@STONE69_ I hope the rumors are true so that people will finally find Linux / Mac attractive options.
@@STONE69_" turbo charged" got me laughing hard🤣🤣
Think about it! Why is MS insisting on putting Recall on all computers if only a handful of those computers are going to be using it? MS with Recall is like a psychopath with a loaded gun. He may not shoot that gun this second, but he will surely shoot it at some point. It's not about what MS is doing at this second: it's about what MS can and will do in the future. Don't just sit there and trust the psychopath not to shoot!
Or it could be enabled by China to monitor Chinese abroad. Or to gather info on scientists, politicians, financial managers. Lots of potential for abuse by bad actors.
it's not about money, it's about personal profiling ( social credit score, carbon print)
If the service is not doing anything, then WHY DOES IT SHOW UP IN 24H2 on non Copilot+ PCs!?!? NO, NOT IN THE SETTINGS APP. In your own screenshots in this video and the last video, you showed that it not only exists, but also how to disable it on the command line using the dism command. Plus, you have also demonstrated it being enabled (even if it's not doing anything that we can prove) by default and without any of the GUI prompts to turn it on when it's supposed to be "opt in". Maybe Microsoft decided there's no need for any GUI prompts or settings for it when it doesn't do anything on Copilot+ PCs, but with the current flood of "answers" online about it, many just doing research to try and find out the truth would probably say that's a "BIG" assumption.
If we are to believe Microsoft's official answer on their website as you have shown us, then why does the service exist on non Copilot+ PCs if it's not supposed to be doing anything? Why is it enabled by default on non Copilot+ PCs even though there's no prompt to the user about its existence and no reference to it anywhere in the graphical settings app? These are not unreasonable questions to be asked. Regardless of all the panic flying around the Internet over it, simply asking why it exists on a non Copilot+ PC and what it's for is only logical. Going through Microsoft's website on what Recall does and it's system requirements does not properly answer these questions.
You know, Microsoft could just come out and say that the binary exists because Windows 11 on Copilot+ PCs and traditional PCs share the same code base and it doesn't actually do anything on traditional PCs. That would be a simple technical answer, but where's that statement? Why haven't they come out and said that Windows shares code among different types of computers and that there will be some "overlap" but it doesn't mean it's doing anything? None of what you have shown on Microsoft's website states this flat out.
Microsoft's bad handling of questions from the tech community isn't helping the situation. I personally think it exists on non Copilot+ PCs because of that shared code base and as a result is probably benign, but given all the bad PR around Windows 11 and the fact that it's hidden away and you need to use the command line to disable it with the dism command, Microsoft's failure to come out and address it directly has allowed all the conspiracy theories, FUD, and what ever "answer" people come up with on their own to spread like wildfire. Why Microsoft has been silent on this to allow the tech community run wild with their own "answers" is another perfectly reasonable question for people to be asking.
Lastly, when you pointed out that Recall won't be sending screenshots to Microsoft, that same page makes no mention of anything from the database formed by it reading those screenshots getting sent to Microsoft. I agree, sending screenshots would be ridiculous given the amount of storage Microsoft would need, but why haven't they made the same statement about the database? We know that the processing occurs locally on the Copilot+ PC and the screenshots never leave, but there isn't a statement stating the database (or even meta data from it) would never get sent to Microsoft. Without going into the conspiracy theories about this (seriously, others are WAY more creative than I could ever be), it's not unreasonable to ask why they haven't made a statement about it.
I get what you're trying to do here and be the level headed person in the sea of crazy people, but if you put aside the conspiracies and only look at the questions being asked that frankly don't have good answers, then your own explanations (which are very reasonable) don't resolve anything either. The only one who can actually resolve this is Microsoft, but until they do, the mess will continue. It's not a conspiracy theory to say that this mess was created by Microsoft. The tech community wants proper answers, but in the absence of such answers, the void will be filled by something else, as "colorful" as it may be.
Microsoft are incapable of giving information, straight answers to straight questions, and have always been the same. Their normal comment (if they comment) is usually "We have nothing to share at this time".
I really do not see why a person would want or need this feature. If I wanted this feature, I would rather prefer to use a third party app. The fact that Microsoft is adding this feature is to benefit them or perhaps the government. Yes I know we can disable it, but it still creaps me out that the feature is on there in the first place.
Sure files are local, but not data Ai will create and sumarize in text form, feature exist for making money of you, otherwise they would not create sometching so unwanted and controversial and still push it so hard on people.
You would have to use Enable Recall for that to happen. Its not mandatory to use Recall on copilot+ pc
You're wrong, my friend, it's not about money, it's about personal profiling (credit score)
@@kikirykilol
I don’t need AI on my computer…. Let me figure out what I’m looking for.
I hate AI
AI doesnt belong at the OS level, period.
Let's hope Steve Gibson of GRC & Security Now, fame will create a tool to stop Windows Recall completely.
Or just install Linux job done.
Recall won't work on Windows 11 on 24H2 and is not a feature. Just disable it
@@Britec09 You write as well as you read, badly.
Very level headed video explanation Brian. Thank you. 👍 (Although I had already ran out and blocked all our business PC's upgrading to 24H2 just in case on Sunday afternoon 😂)
Chears mate, just trying to help people understand and stop people believing some of the rubbish I have read in comments, most are just illinformed or paranoid. Maybe the internet is not for them.
@@Britec09 You are a misinformation vendor with a really LowIQ. You need to be ignored.
I'm still using XP, Win7, Win10, and Server 2003. I will continue to use them. I will NEVER use Windows 11. The only reason I'm not using Linux is the applications I use. It would be a real chore to find replacements for some of them. Fortunately I am a programmer since 1984 and know my way around, and have written numerous programs to get around MS crap and even get MS crap to work properly.
Music to my ears. I have a PC running XP and Battlefield 2 connected to the internet without being hacked for 17 years. I just bought two powerful, expensive PCs to be able to run Windows 10 before chipset and drivers demand Windows 11.
I've worked in IT since the 80s. I had Windows 7 on my home computer until six months ago, when I bought a new PC to run video editing software I needed. I dislike Windows 11. The interface is ridiculous - imagine "hiding" copy and paste functions??!
Microsoft changes things just for the sake of it, without any good reason. Why rearrange everything when you've just learned the interface well? It takes 8-10 years to make an operating system stable and good. Before everyone has switched to Windows 11, they'll probably release Windows 12.
I left the IT industry this summer when I felt fed up about how bad it is these days. I now only do small jobs when I feel like it on systems I like to work with.
It is all well and good saying that MS have announced what they are doing through blog posts, but the problem Brian is that even if MS aren’t doing anything nefarious, they should make their users more aware of new features such as Recall.
I was speaking to my brother about the problems 24H2 is giving people. He isn’t a big computer nerd, and when i brought up about Recall, his first response was what’s that? And there is your problem, the average unsavvy user doesn't know about these changes.
And some are probably wondering why there’s this 8GB of space now being taken up or why their computer is laggy because Recall is enabled by default.
I wasn’t able to test 24H2 on my main machine to see for myself what it’s like on that as it gives me a boot error. So i wasn’t able to see all they’ve done. But they do need to do better in making their users aware of a new feature, what it does and if they would like it enabled.
Recall is NOT capturing data on Windows 11 24H2.
I just got Copilot on my Windows 10 machine, so I am anticipating and expecting them with great certainty to add recall to it too. I'm seriously considering trying to switch to Linux full time now.
we are still not allowed to delate it so i guess they will still abuse the recall
While this is undoubtedly correct ,Microsoft rarely does things that don't benefit Microsoft in some way. Incorporating Internet Explorer into the core of the operating system 20+ years ago required anti-trust action to overcome. As Brian says, choose your operating system based on the features you want or require and weigh up their respective benefits and detriments. As a relatively savvy retiree who does not require any gaming beyond sudoku and solitaire Linux does everything I require daily for personal use. For my voluntary work I still require access to an old copy of MYOB running on a local Windows machine but I will probably recommend that we move to cloud based accounting software, expensive as that is, then move to Linux for that purpose too.
I use W10.
This morning, Windows update KB5045594 installed itself and COPILOT has now ensconced itself on my taskbar!! I don't want it, so I'm now going to spend ages trying to figure out how to get rid of it.
Is it okay to uninstall CoPilot completely, or will that have an adverse effect on any other functions? Any comment would be very much appreciated, thank you.
What is the point of this ‘feature’ other than to get as much user info as possible?
One thing i disagree with is that theyd need petabytes to grab screen records. All you have to do is have the ai on system detect if something is criminal (i.e. cee pee) and then send it to a databank for further investigation or processing.
There's also false detections. AI isn't exactly fool proof.
@@notanimufailzone Not full proof but you separate enough of the stuff where you can analyze what is left. Places already do this with cloud storage and email solutions, I'm pretty sure google got caught doing it with gmail.
all information in this video was just quoting what microsoft has told us, to truly disprove the misconceptions you need to prove it yourself by peering through a windows 11 system and showing precisely what its doing in the background.
Its funny how so many people did not even know the infomation on Microsoft sites, because if they did, they would not be so wrong and saying silly stuff. The information is out there.
@@Britec09 alright so lets assume for the sake of your arguement that recall can be disabled by the user either from the click of a button or a command in the command prompt. what is to stop microsoft from turning it back on after a security update? ive done this myself Ive disabled some things in windows 10 for example and after a security update I had to once again go in and disable certain features. there is no possible way you can defend MS here m8.
omg why are you saying only on co pilot+ pcs only .. i have removed windows from 3 pcs now going to Linux cause i DID find copilot and recall .. also found the file storage for recall that was non removable.. as we all know that Microsoft loves to re enable features that we turn off even to the registry and admin system tools after every little update are you going to trust them not to turn this feature on later down the road .. also the 3 pcs i had with windows wasn't even 11 but windows 10 24h2.. im also a A+,NET+, MSCE,CCNA so tell me i DONT know what im looking at.
You're talking rubbish Christopher and its comments like that trying to fearmonger people. A+,NET+, MSCE,CCNA really? first of all. Windows 10 does not have 24H2. Only has Windows 10 22H2 😂 learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-10-home-and-pro So you DON'T know what your talking about. 😂 You need better training. NEXT!!!
I do agree for now it's mostly mountains out of molehills. Worth pointing out though that Microsoft has zettabytes of storage available for data collection, not petabytes. What's your take on Titus' coverage yesterday?
The imagery version of Inking & typing (Windows Key Logger) u either live with it or learn how to disable it
Hi Brian, thanks for the video. Yes, many users have misunderstood how the Recall feature works. It is not mandatory on Windows 11 24H2, as you also mention in your video. Microsoft has changed a lot in the Recall feature; it will be an opt-in feature, which I think is very good. It requires a Neural Processing Unit (NPU) and a Copilot+ PC right now. Then the Recall feature will come to Intel and AMD later from what I have heard, but it will also require new hardware, an NPU, and so on. But personally, I will not use the Recall feature if I buy a Copilot+ PC or another computer that supports the Recall feature in the future. Such a great video, Brian, where you also clarify how the feature works. I live in Sweden, so it seems right now I will have the option to uninstall the Recall Feature if I buy a computer that meets the requirements for the Recall Feature, but I think that everyone in the world should also be able to uninstall the Recall Feature if they want to. Take care Brian and have a lovely day in the UK
You to mate
Thanks for the clarification. I'm still a little leery about updating, but this makes me feel a little bit better. Still haven't seen if they've rolled out a patch for it, yet (so it's still like gambling with loaded dice).
Literally nobody wants this, or "ai" slop.
Oh, hell no. Thanks for the explanation.
You're welcome.
I'm staying on 23H2 until the bugs are ironed out and until the Github community create some tweaking scripts for 24H2. NEVER trust Microsoft's word...they say this but they'll do the opposite.
Copilot (not copilot +) was installed on my Windows 10 Home PC in the last big 22H2 update other day. I did have the option to remove it though "as a new APP installed" during that last update. But my point is. Copilot is being installed on Windows 10 machines in 22H2 update offered
This is one of the most egregious things MS has ever done. AI is still in it's infancy. The devs at MS cannot write even simple OS updates and features, must less something as complicated as AI. AI will take many years to be ready for deployment to home users. SMH. As someone who has used MS since the days of DOS, i may finally make the switch to Linux on all of my computers.
I hate AI on Windows
I just want to let you know I'm glad I found you I've been watching tons of your videos it's been very helpful I'm all in thank you keep it up you've extremely help me fix a few things that I was just on the verge of trying to figure out thank you
NVIDIA RTX 4090, boast over 1300 TOPS Copilot+ 40 TOPS
u speak in there like this thin and light laptops got some special alien tech
there is no way recall is not gonna be forced for everybody at some point
Watch the whole video, I said they are working with Intel and AMD in the future, but as of right now, you need a NPU processor
My hope is that this entire Copilot+PC and Recall turn into another "Bob" or "Clippy" scenario. Likely, many will love this or not even care.
My guess is that, for proprietary reasons, the software was written by dozens of separate offices with no idea how their own little part fits into the whole. No doubt it won't work the way the chiefs hoped, and will remain bug-ridden, glitchy, and need constant updating. The next version in some Windows 13 will work better.
If I can't remove copilot completely from my Windows installation, I'm switching back to POP!_OS
There are guides on YT showing how to strip the windows11 iso of bloat and recall. Ive just done it myself and it's a terrific way to fight back. Don't give up the fight!
I'd love to see Microsoft try it with my Manjaro box...
I would like to see Manjaro play Fortnite and Valorant, but it ant going to happen.
Maybe he values performance, privacy and security more than playing Fortnite.
@@alfaxgo 100%
I left the responsibility of MS and Apple, etc. to my employer while using "anything but" at home. It's been nice.
The day recall becomes required, with no way around it is the day Linux becomes my main.
The writing is on the wall bro.
Saying that Recall doesn’t send screenshots to MS because that would lead to an unmanageable amount of data doesn’t take into account that the AI will interpret images and all, and could send these very accurate interpretations as relatively small (text) files, thereby eliminating the need for extremely big storage facilities.
I am not saying this will happen (right away), but it does invalidate the needed storage argument
I didn't expect MS to copy the images themselves. But does it still store the interpretation by the bot of what it sees in a plain text? That can be easily checked via a backdoor and hackers could also get their hands on it. I have registered that MS is going to secure these materials better now than it initially planned (and received a deserved criticim), but knowing MS even that will have some holes. And pobably the user will be blamed.
1º Make everything depend on it. EVEN ON DEVICES THAT 'DONT SUPPORT'. (If you remove this recall from non copilot+ pcs the file explore stops working)
2º Can't remove only disable because everything depends on it.
3º Updates now enables it by default.
Only mentally reparted people cant see where this is going. There is a music named "Comfortably Dumb" that describes people that want's to be ignorant.
You instantly made me think of "Comfortably Numb" by Pink Floyd.
I use W10. This morning, Windows update KB5045594 installed itself and COPILOT has now ensconced itself on my taskbar!! I don't want it, so I'm now going to spend ages trying to figure out how to get rid of it.
Is it okay to uninstall CoPilot completely, or will that have an adverse effect on any other functions? From what you've said, though, it seems I should only disable it. Any comment would be very much appreciated, thank you.
@@EIRE55 "Is it okay to uninstall CoPilot completely, or will that have an adverse effect on any other functions? " As things are looking you will not be able to uninstall copilit without breaking basic things on windows.
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Thanks for getting back to me.
Funnily enough, I've just got a reply about the same question from the @brentech channel creator, and he says it's okay to uninstall it.
I guess I'm going to have to think about this before I do anything. Thanks again and stay safe and well, wherever you are.
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Oh, and I couldn't find a way to just disable it, either.
Mis information? You spread a lot of that. 😂
I'm simply tired of Microsoft's jerking us around and forcing crap on 'Our PCs', that we don't want. Goodbye MicroBloat.
HOW do you know that you actually turned OFF Recall?
Stop panicking it's not enabled on non-copilot pc's... for now !
And you can disable it... until the next upgrade to turn it on again without you to know.
Oh and its opt-in... like any microsoft opt-in turning opt-out and mandatory at the end.
Really, stop panicking, it's just Microsoft usual thing for your own good.
Hmmm, 3060 apparently has about 100 TOPS so a dedicated NPU is not required ju7st a modern day GPU so basically any modern PC running a modern day GPU can be a Windows Co-pilot recall PC as long as it has the storage space aswell !
BS, itis indeed on my Win11, dism reports it as enabled
So disable it.
Check If Recall Is ON : Dism /Online /Get-Featureinfo /Featurename:Recall
Depending on your preference these commands can either ENABLE or DISABLE the software.
Disable RECALL: Dism /Online /Disable-Feature /Featurename:Recall
Enable RECALL: Dism /Online /Enable-Feature /Featurename:Recall
I use W10.
This morning, Windows update KB5045594 installed itself and COPILOT has now ensconced itself on my taskbar!! I don't want it, so I'm now going to spend ages trying to figure out how to get rid of it.
Is it okay to uninstall CoPilot completely, or will that have an adverse effect on any other functions? Any comment would be very much appreciated, thank you.
I can just see when Windows 12 come out, NPU will most likely be a requirement. Otherwise stay on Windows 11.
So long it is possible to disable it I won't have any problem. Hade done a few tests on different pc's an with Recall enabled you will lose from 0-10% of pc power, and the worst is on a laptop running on battery. Other than that I still can't see any good use of Recall, so this disable command is copied right on my desktop to use for further updates (We all know how MS pushing things back)
Thx 4 clearing that up. We need facts on this topic.
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Brian, you said: "(...) it would need petabytes of storage every single day if it was copying everyone's PC in the world (...)" - Actually no... the whole point on forcing Recall on PCs with AI capabilities is to make them do the hard work themselves, at the user's expense. Once the desired info is spotted in a screenshot, e.g. a list of logins and passwords that the user has opened in a password-protected file, that list of logins and passwords is converted into pure text and represents only a few kilobytes to be potentially transmitted.
Copilot is on all iso from Microsoft now and there is no setting to disable it. Wth the hell is there no simple button to just disable copilot.why is this forced. Then theres the fact that the status of snapshots is on even though it is supposedly opt in. How does that make sense??
The theres the other fact that even if you disable it, only eu pc can completely remove the trash spyware. Holy shyt Microsoft. They are as the linux fanboys make them out to be in this case. I am still on windows 10 and will upgrade last minute to 11. Wish linux wasnt as trash an os. I'd have made the switch already if it wasnt.
Watching this while tracking my MacBook 😂 Goodbye windows
me watching this on RPiOS Bookworm on RPi4B 4GB.....
Disabled or not if it's on the system it's too much.
Like I said, you have a choice to turn it off or on and you also have a choice to use another OS. Not rocket science
Microsoft has been preparing to do this for years. It issues a lot of gee-whiz goobledygook because it can't say that keylogging slows down older computers so much you'll notice it. That's why the nonsense about Windows 11 "not working" on older computers that run Windows 10 just fine (even when they do have TPM 2.0 and Bitlocker). That's why Windows 12 will require faster, more-powerful hardware too. That's why "helper" bloatware such as Cortana gets you used to newer computers being no faster than old ones. And that's why they keep moving around and hiding configuration settings. When they DO install and activate real-time monitoring through an overnight update, you'll never notice it. The computer's just as sluggish as ever and the drives and Internet connection are being constantly driven as usual.
What is the difference between the new on processor NPUs and the tensor cores on many graphics cards? Can the NPU be used or shared by any other software - is that hardware feature open to devs?
BTW, the NSA has PETA bytes of storage, just saying.
I believe the tensor cores on dedicated GPUs are far more powerful than an NPU, but the NPU is far more power efficient. Or something like that. I'm not completely sure, it was a while ago I checked it, so I might misremember.
I disabled this sh** and my processor is even cooler now! It was strange to me, because Ryzen 5 4600G is a very cool cpu, the fact that it was 4-5 degrees hotter with 24h2 makes me wonder a lot of things!
I use W10.
This morning, Windows update KB5045594 installed itself and COPILOT has now ensconced itself on my taskbar!! I don't want it, so I'm now going to spend ages trying to figure out how to get rid of it.
Is it okay to uninstall CoPilot completely, or will that have an adverse effect on any other functions? Any comment would be very much appreciated, thank you.
Good advice Straight forward! if you don’t like Windows then don’t use it!
That's it
@Uchiha409, let's do a thought experiment:
you come home one day and you see that your neighbour's house is on fire. you see it's just a small fire and nothing has really burned yet, but you know how fire is. what do you do:
1. nothing. its not your house, after all, so who cares? or;
2. knock on your neighbour's door and inform them that if they dont take care of the fire, their house could burn down...and potentially take the neighbourhood with it.
the fire might not affect you at first, but it has the potential to really mess things up for many / everyone.
what would you do?
Linux is going to be rolled out. 1 more year of Windows 10 and that's it
At this point normal people will not swich to linux any time soon tbh the only way make people switching to linux if microsoft start making the Windows OS as subcritption service ( BET your bottom dollar they will do it since they spend billons on AI, the Blizzard-Activition aqusition, etc) then is a total switch to linux.
Also recall will now store the data in a VBS Enclave, which is an encrypted virtual machine. "Supposedly" not even Microsoft could access the data if they wanted to. Of course if you are using your computer for illegal activity, I would probably still not trust doing that activity on a recall enabled computer. For the majority of everyone else, it will probably be safe. But I for one will not have the thing enabled. I don't care to see what I did on my computer 3 weeks ago. If I need to capture something, I use Greenshot as my capture program.
It would be nice if a software engineer or computer programmer can examine the Windows recall feature and clear it up for us if it really sends snapshots to Microsoft.
I run Windows 11 23H2 on my AMD Threadripper 3960X build.
Windows Recall Coming to Every PC ? - Not Mine!
This is kind of different, but I was chatting with Copilot AI in Windows, asked me a survey question in the middle of the chat and when I answered, the copilot window flashed white, more than likely took a screenshot without my permission, and my PC is not copilot compatible.
If it's only for copilot+ pcs, why is it installed on my non copilot+ pc? And why did I have to disable in order for it to be labeled as disabled? Also why was it made a dependency of windows explorer and I can't uninstall it.
They had to do this for a reason, and I can't think of any that are good.
What stops Microsoft from streamlining ReCall in the future and silently automatically enabling it as a hidden background integrated component without the users knowledge. Screw that I'm moving over to Mint. I have been a windows client and server admin for 25 years and this is the final straw. Goodbye MS.
They rolled out co-pilot PCs making Recall exclusive to those --> it failed miserably --> now they force it on everyone
They have not forced it on everyone 😂Don't beleieve everything you read or see.
The issue of MS accessing sensitive user data has nothing to do with Recall or anything forthcoming. And has been around since long before Win 11.
If someone is using Windows then they agreed to the “END-USER LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR MICROSOFT SOFTWARE
IMPORTANT-READ CAREFULLY:”
12pages of legal jargon but the right for Microsoft to access the data stored in Windows is clearly provided for in paragraph 8” Consent to Use of Data” of the user agreement. A pdf of this agreement can be downloaded from Microsoft.
Bootkicking chud.
If you do not need REC. ALL, MS need it! Same as COPILOT!
Recall will be removable do not fall for the scare tactics. So funny when folks decry their leaving for Linux to take control, I say take control of your Windows don't run tail between legs giving up! I do not get automatic updates via group policy editor. Many apps out there to help you take control.
People in EU with have option to uninstall Recall, just like they do Edge.
well i just switched to Linux so micro$oft can keep their Recall to them self and now i can use my pc years to come and others will end up in the Landfall what a shame Microsoft
Hope everything works out for you on Linux Michael
@@Britec09 at lest now i stall can keep my old working pc and not have it go to the Landfall like other good working pc that is running windows 10
Hi Brian. I want to ask as Microsoft is taking snapshots of everything in 24h2 . Are they uploading all these snapshots in cloud. If not . Than in which directory or folder these snapshots are really going where we can manually delete them. . As u have told we cannot block this recall feature
Doesn't mean because you don't see recall in settings that it is not there were talking about microsoft here they hide stuff in registry and gpedit .
You keep saying this is not true coming from a guy 2 years ago that used to say microsoft don't collect data but what do i know i only do crappy windows support on the side but at least i can stay objective and not believe everything microsoft say.
You are one of the conspiracy theory group, assuming they are copying your data and sending back to Microsoft. Don't be that person accusing people, provide evidence Steve to backup your claims, otherwise you are spreding misinformation.
@@Britec09 Evidence of what look at your network connections that are not needed just for data collection or just the fact of every stupid tutorials you do to show privacy you always have to go in registry or gpedit dude im just like you i do tech i see this crap every day and it is border line criminal what microsoft,google,facebook do but google and micosoft is worst because it's not just online service but os level.
Look i'm not part of conspiracy group like you said but i'm just trying to say you can assume that we are all stupid and say something is not possible when they clearly are.
A flashy way to waste my PC's resources. Shall we see the return of Clippy ;-?
I hate AI on computers. Turn it all off.
britec, how much are they paying you huh?
Tell me what user's are asking for this feature and why it's got to go on pc, and by the way I have an i9 pc which is 3yrs old and I have seen copilot and deleted it twice so far
Just did a reinstall, dual booting, windows is strictly for gaming and Linux is for everything else. 🖖
Thank you for showing how to disable recall. My CPU kept going to 100% when gaming after disabling recall it dropped to 70%. 🤘
why did you choose dual booting over running a win11 kvm for gaming?
@@aluzza2541 Runs better on bare metal. I can utilize my entire CPU. ✌
LoL. All the soon to be released Intel 200 SKUs contain 13 TOPS NPUs. So, according to MS they will indeed be CoPilot+ desktop PCs
Like I said in the video, there could be in the future. But we are talking about now.
@@Britec09 Release date is October 24 so fair point. Still I predict much trouble in the future, and not just for MS. For me it's Ntlite FTW, everything is gone on my game box including Defender, onedrive and bitlocker, and I'm sure happy that I have an external firewall that will not give all this junk a free pass to home base.
I permanently moved to Linux nearly half a decade ago. Glad I did.