True, Jumping, Dead Seconds
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- This is a short introduction to watches with second hands that jump from second to second rather than smoothly flow from one to the other. In mechanical watches, these deadbeat second are relatively rare while all quartz watches have jumping seconds. Very interesting movements are requird for mechanical seconds to be ‘true,’ ‘dead’ or ‘jump.'
Great video Bill. True/Dead seconds are by far my favourite complication.
Thanks NSsomething. That A&S chronograph with both a sweeping second for the chrono and jumping for the time (or the other way around?) could be mesmerizing! Cheers, Bill
Interesting clip. Thank you.
Thanks, NRS! Cheers, Bill
Very interesting subject Bill. My favorites of the bunch is the JLC Geophysic and that Dial Side Arnold & Son. Thanks for the great video Bill.
Bruce, I can see you in a Jaeger-LeCoulre...just your style. Cheers, Bill
The Arnold & Son TBR is also a Grand Seconde. The CBT is very cool, as the chrono second and dead beat second chase each other around the dial. Great video.
Hi SouthNC! A&S has a whole bunch that I think had jumping seconds but were also tourbillons ... I just samples where the only complication was the deadbeat seconds. Now I've got to get one~instead of just looking at a quartz watch! Cheers, Bill
Always enjoy your videos Bill ,At those prices I'll stick with the quartz jumping seconds !!
Well Junior, that those prices, I don't blame you! Cheers, Bill
Posted a comment on your lovely Facebook page linking to the TBR and here I see you talking about it on your YT! Love this page and interacting you bill, keep it up!
The pleasure is mine TetrixJ! Cheers, Bill
Paul gerber has one as well. Switching between sweeping and jumping
I've got to get a Paul Gerber one of these days, Dhanajay. Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci would love to see on the channel as well. love your work.
@@dhananjayringe Now that's a good idea! Thanks man! Take care, Bill
Arnold & Son created some really interesting pieces when Sebastien Chaulmontet was leading the brand and a lot of the pieces seemed to focus on the dead beat seconds on top of other complications like the split second chronograph, the equation of time, the symmetrical Time Pyramid etc. It's a pity they didn't manage to keep him on board.
Another brand that did the dead beat seconds complication is Debethune.
Hi Omg, even without Chaulmontet, I like what Arnold and Son have been doing lately. What do you think? Take care and be safe, Bill😷
@@watchartsci I think since he left they haven't really created anything new, just minute updates on existing models. Same with Angelus, which Chaulmonet helped revive. But the models that he has created for them are really quite something.
Its also quite sad that Beat Weimann has left Ochs un Junior for Chronoswiss, hopefully Ochs will continue to be able to create interesting complications.
Are there any brands that you feel have seem to gone quiet as of late?
$21,700 RRP vs. $7,300 street? Holy Moly, wouldn't a manufacturer adjust their expectations at that point?
Hi Invalid, some models just don't fly. Watch companies are concerned that lowering their prices will hurt their "image." One company that kept the high quality and lowered prices has been H. Moser et Cie. Exceptional Horology at about 50% of previous models and now installing automatic movements. New movement the HMC 200 is automatic ... what do you think of this one? www.cellinijewelers.com/watches/brands/h-moser-cie/heritage-center-seconds-funky-blue Take care, bill
@@watchartsci I think I actually found out about H. Moser & Cie. on your channel. That's a nice watch -- especially that dial -- although for my (quite hypothetical) personal tastes I think 37-39mm would be nicer. Also I've always found that lug style a bit too... eh... "retrograde."
I have a Rolex True Beat Ref. 6556 and a Habring Jumping Second Pilot!
Both amazing watches, O Bud! Those Rolex True Beats are rare indeed! Love the Habring! Cheers, Bill
Ooh, maybe a Geneva Seal Best Buys", like the Roger Dubuis La Monegasque, second hand, under $8k
Hey John, that's a great sounding deal for a RD! Thank you! Bill
Funny you talking about Arnold & Son sent you a link to one on Instagram because didn't know how else to reach you it was a three hand manual wind for a incredible price under 5 grand and know you like high Horololgy and manual wind watches. 😁
Hey Mark, thanks man. I appreciate it. Right now, I'm back in the savings mode after that new H. Moser Endeavour Center Seconds and the Bvlgari Octo for our son. I'll check it out, though. Kindest regards, Bill
@@watchartsci yes Bill I saw that congratulations. Follow you pretty good so been trying to get some people from my Facebook groups to watch your channel told them about the video were you got your Octo and were and how to look because someone posted a Octo they just bought and commented there a site got them for 3700 .00 dollars and everyone wanted to know the site told them they'd have to watch your video. 😂😂
Hey Bill, A. Lange & Söhne also has the Richard Lange Jumping Seconds, which combines a Seyfert regulator layout, a dead second, a constant-force mechanism, and an end of life indicator! Much more expensive than Arnold & Son. :(
Yes, Gilberto, a number do, including F.P. Journe (Chronometre Optimum-one of his early watches), and others as well. What interests me the most is the type of mechanism used to effect jumping seconds. Cheers, Bill
@@watchartsci I remember reading somewhere that there's no one single correct answer to that. Supposedly there are as many dead beat second mechanisms as there are watchmakers.
Yes, there seem to be a lot of different approaches, Gilberto. Where there are several solutions, for me, it's far more interesting. Take care, Bill
I was just trying to "collect" information on dead beat seconds... And Skeleton dials, with date (so far affordable Zenith Defy Classic skeleton).
Timing is everything John! Cheers, Bill
Grt the defy lab watch instead
De Bethune have a fancy jumping second watch!
Hello Mohamed! What mechanism did De Bethune use? Thank, Bill
WatchArtSci dead beat second mechanism
Mohamed, there are several such mechanisms ... would you happen to know which one? Thanks ,Bill
Why the large difference in list and street price?
I imagine, Alton, that Arnold & Son watches just cannot sell for the higher price ... so some dealer clears his inventory by lowering the price. Take care, Bill
what does w-s complication shows? It s on one of the watches on video. Thny
Winter-Spring. Used in setting for standard or daylight time Mate. Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci Thank you!
Hey, I think Arnold & Son refers to the Breguet's best friend that invented the tourbillion.
See if you can find a reference for that Tippy. Thanks, Bill
@@watchartsci Here it is
www.arnoldandson.com/home/history.aspx
Thanks, Tippy! I couldn't find the part where Arnold invented the tourbillon; just his friendship with Breguet. Thanks anyway. Bill
@@watchartsci I was pretty sure Arnold invented the tourbillion and Breguet implemented it to a watch to honor Armold's death.
journal.hautehorlogerie.org/en/abraham-louis-breguet-john-arnold-and-the-very-first-tourbillon/
@@tippykaffu4047 This sounds more like Breguet took one of Arnolds watches and converted it into a tourbillon of Breguet's invention: Check this out, "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourbillon" ... Kindest regards, bill
Habring2 Erwin
Hi MG-yes, that's a perfect example. Take care, Bill