Gamers Nexus told me I needed this... so here it is!
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2024
- Gamers Nexus said I needed to check out the EKWB Loophole! But how should I use this $490 distro plate and pump res combo?!
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Before watching the video, I had no idea what practical use there could possibly be for this thing. After watching the video, I'm pretty sure there's none.
I totally agree. Completely unnecessary expense.
@@johndegnan5703 like %99 of modern PC builds
I mean you could….. yep no idea
Slap some RGB on anything and it would sell
some coloured sleeves with that +50$
Hyyyyype!!! This is everything I wanted hahaha. You have more patience than I do for these kinds of projects. Looking forward to seeing this in a case!
Thanks Steve.
You can literally see it!
Definitely
Poppa is here
He's gotta show us young'ins how to do it!
It would look cool in a duel loop system, have different coloured fluids, and have them crossing into each others distro thing. Dont know how well they'd show up through the tubes and liquid, but might be a neat idea
If he did one clear and one a dark color would probably sort of work.
Duel loop system! 🔫🔫🔫
who are they fighting?
This was my first thought, too. Depending on colors and their opacity there could be some really interesting combinations. Experimenting with different combinations would be a lot of fun. Like, would running a tube of blue through a block of yellow make the tube look green? Or what happens when you run a tube of Mystic Fog through a reservoir of (see through) color? And those are just a couple initial ideas.
some kind of red vs blue where they both cross over between the manifolds multiple times would be cool.
seeing the gamers nexus video on ek today made me think about the opening quote of "nevermind the condition ek sent them to me in." i dont think these are guna leave their inventory anytime soon...
so what's the difference between torque and horse power?🤔
If you build a loop inside of the res, then run sub ambient coolant through it, you could use it as a heat exchanger!
this needs explored lol
Yes, you could but you also need something to remove that heat and since it's going inside a PC... the only place that heat is going is the surrounding so you'd end up higher ambient temps lol. Unless you have ducting through a wall or something lol...
@@earthtaurus5515 I hear pools are good for that.........
So is that sub ambient coolant in the room with us right now?
Doubt it would be effective unless you were using crazy cold coolant. With pipes that large and runs that short the amount of surface area available to carry out the exchange is minimal.
They say 32 options, and what I hear is "32 possible points of failure."
But at least you know where those are 😅
You the kinda dude that looks a 10 million dollar house and goes who's gonna clean that
Thirty three - the entire device as well
So, what you do is put this inside of an even bigger reservoir.
@@jimmycakes12 As a German, that would be me.
I’m a pipe fitter and push lock fittings work fine I use them all the time. Just make sure you don’t have a super sharp edge so it doesn’t cut the o-ring.
Yup, especially when, as Jay said - the pump is low pressure high flow. If anything were to take out one of those fittings it would be a pressure build up which is mega unlikely.
they are not push lock i believe, just two orings queezing the tube with no physical lock. But yea, the D5 and DDC have nowhere enough pressure to make one of those come out.
Make all the inner tube run as the component loop. Then cool the outer liquid with its own loop. That's why Steve said, water cool the water cooler.
Idea: if you're using two of these, use one on the gpu loop and one on the cpu loop. use copper tubing inside the reservoir as a heat exchanger between the two loops. Connect one of the outputs from one into the array of copper tubes in the other. That way, if one loop gets too hot and has to spool up, the other takes on some of the heat. You'd have to use the topmost center input ports, so it would probably be best to use glass tubing to minimize air ingress as water would slowly leave through plastic tubes (to prevent air getting mixed down into the loops), but it would look sick as hell.
Is it ludicrous overkill? Sure. That's part of the fun though.
EDIT: this might actually make the individual loops easier to do depending on the cases fan mounts. The cpu loop could be on the back, with the radiator IO towards the back, and the GPU could be on the front, completely avoiding the area where the CPU loop parts would go. Then you could have that go-between fit right in the middle between the two.
uhh nice idea, I second this.
could even solder on some fins to the copper tubing to increase heat transfer.
These ideas are worth testing.
Would be good to do the stand clear tube test. Get baselines. Then do the copper tubing and/or copper tubing with fins.
@@Rangerthelonewolf Linus already did something like this but on a MUCH bigger scale. They did a wholeass heat exchanger block in a custom desk PC for some minecraft youtuber/streamer person with a huge manifold of copper tubes between the loops. It's the "$100k gaming pc" or something like that if you wanna look it up.
Just stop... run a full loop then
0:21 oddly prophetic, given the recent news
the box is a little damaged it's still good it's still good
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue and EK still sucks.
Falcon northwest still making fragboxes makes me so happy. Back in the mid 2000s as a diehard maximumpc reader it was my dream to own one, always seeing their ads. And now I still can!
So this is why ekwb has a liquidity problem. 500$ usd for a shell over top of your runs. It doesnt save you money on tubing r fittings, its litrally just a shell
This video didn't age well.... super awkward watching this AFTER the EK fallout.
@Jayztwocents engineering nerd tip. That distribution plate sort of works like a tube and shell heat exchanger. The benefit of using this is that you cool the water mid loop before it reaches the next component. Tube and shell heat exchangers operate at maximum efficiency when the cooling water, and the water being cooled flow in opposite directions. So any loop segments routed internally should flow in closer to the pump suction, and flow out further away from the pump suction to get the maximum cooling effect. It would be great to see you discuss this in a future video, and implement this concept into your build to the maximum practical extent. I'm excited to see how the build turns out, and am a big fan of both you and @GamersNexus!
that only works if the tubing you use has good thermal transfer. acrylic wouldn't work for that. This is just for show. Something made with purpose would have been made with copper tubing and directed flow channels where there was a clearly marked chilled side and hot side.
Hmmm 2 loops different colors. Have the opposite color going into reservoir would look cool.
does not work if they are mixing with each other though🤣🤣
you'll figure it out when your like why are both loops changing to the same color? and be like oh🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Take off the fittings that are blocked due to internal tubing and put rgb lights in them.
You can sync them to indicate the hot/cold water and/or cpu/gpu. As well as pulsating the flow orientation.
Phanteks NV9 White, if you want a white and black water build.
Im using the nv9 case myself.
Funny watching this after the release of Steve's EK takedown 😬
As for case: How about the Lian Li V3000+? Go big or go home.
build in the green neighborhood power box by the sidewalk
A fish tank. Then the 32 points of failure would make sense. Scuba Steve would love it
Got to be an Inwin case. Also you can have 2 different colour loops with the internal tubes being different to the filled liquid
In win 915 would be fun
500$ before tax for this plate without fittings is absolutely insane.. Who buys this??
no one that's using it for a practical build.. definitely something aimed more at the exhibition/display custom build at shows type stuff.
Enthusiast
The easily led hobbyist with plenty of disposable cash
People who sold their 3080 for a 4090.
Someone at EK was being a troll, and the CEO said "bet? put it in production.."
Case idea: Phanteks NV9
It would be interesting to see considering that Bykski have a distro/pump specifically designed for the NV7.
Although what would be really interesting is have 2 loops (contrasting colours) where the loops go into the opposite distro plates!
Great idea! Also vote for nv9... 🤞
Use them in the Phanteks NV9 🤘🏻
Hey Jay, you wanted to build in the Phanteks NV9 , maybe you can use that case here.
I think you should use the two of those as the ends of your case and build copper tubing runs between them as the frame of your custom built case....
The Thermaltake CTE E600 MX would be a cool case for this as it fits up to 3x 140s in the back 👍
You can use this in a dual loop set up where each loop is a different color and fill this block with one color and pipe the other color through the block so you can see it going through. Maybe clear yellow in the block and blue in the pipe throughs so you see green piping through.
Use glass tubing - you can buy 12mm OD borosilicate glass tubes with 90-degree bends - also, you'll know if any of the fittings leak because the colors will blend
Like this idea I hope he tries it
Phanteks NV9 with the double loop could be sick
Nv9 case. Huge and plenty of room to work and full glass to show it off.
This video didn't survive long.
Jay, it would be interesting for you to go really obscure with the build with one distro plate for the cpu and gpu, which is transferring the heat of these components to the other distroplate with just radiators.
It would be interesting to see how much heat can be removed from the loop by just fitting and cables inside of the reservoir combo.
This is pretty dope and the possibilities are quite versatile. EK makes some neato stuff. Also, use it in the NV9
Exactly what makes that thing neat? In all my years doing water cooling, I have never needed that, and I never will.
@@AB-80X Watercool inception bro. Tubing in the front waterfall in the back! all contained! You could even do a loop with different colors in the tubing and the waterfall in the back could be on a different loop and be a cool contrast of colors. There's a lot of possiblity with this.
@JayzTwoCents you can open the pump and solder a 4 pin PWM fan wire to the pump. You just have to be careful that the pump doesn't pull more amperage than the motherboard can handle.
When are you going to watercool your favorite RUclipsr?
Linus just did that with the bidet.
That sounds so wrong on so many levels…
Couple options: 4 vertical tubes in two different coolant colors running vertically through clear coolant. Then you can use white colored RGB fans to provide glow.
Second, use short straight pipes and plug into the two port sets. Then alternate the colored coolants between tubes.
Wow, this EK stuff aged well..
Use a case where you can have one in the front, one in the back. Create unnecessary loopage and have different colors for CPU and GPU. Non-opague coolant but 2 different colors so you can see the other color within each resevoir.
aged like milk
The order of operations is important. With the way those 90s are attached you could insert your the tubes first and then screw both sides in the distro plate.
Maybe that was ups, fedex, or usps fault?
Of course it is. It’s the us.
When something is that small, it is easy for the sender to pack it. They know how it is treated. That was on EK.
Build double system with double loops that go through each other's reservoir. Then have different color liquids.
Product would make more sense if it was sectors of holes and plexiglass+o-ring inserts that are positioned & screwed sandwiched inside the reservoir. Less holes, less fittings, factory finished inserts instead of user erroring pipe bending. Could probably get RGB leds inside the fitted parts through unused holes. And about 500 dollar less of expensive special fittings.
Like if you watch this video after the ek scandal 😢
A two loop system would look super cool with two of these. Have one color loop red and the other blue but transparent colored. Then run each loop through each block so the tubes inside the blocks would look purple
Had the same idea. I had yellow and blue in mind to make green
I keep seeing people suggest this idea, but it would only work for a few minutes. After the coolant circulates back into the reservoirs, it will have been mixed. How do you plan to separate the mixed colors?
@@arieshydragaming3334 it would be two separate loops with separate pumps so no mixing
When you use two of these and clear tubes, how about using different dyes and let the loops "cross" so you get a color mix. Let the colored water from the first reservoir flow through the internal loop of the other and visa versa.
~10:30 in, you're talking about the fittings not having any sort of clamping ability like external ones. It's not like you need to worry about them leaking at all. :)
2 of those would be nice for car build, make them as cylinder heads for a v-engine
for a Case you should use a Hyte Y70t. tons of glass to showcase from many different angles. The 45 degree double corner for an added element "Showyness", you can run a loop in between the displays in the 45 degree corner to either the Vertical GPU or to the CPU.
As a diesel mechanic, I agree, compression fittings. Push ins will fail. Just a matter of when.
depends on the pressure the higher the pressure the sooner it will fail💀💀
Would be awesome if you use two plates as you are planning to do. But here comes the kicker: dual loop. One plate holds the liquid for the loop and the other plate contains the pipes for that loop. This means you could do a 2 color loop. Example: having a purple reservoir liquid with green liquid in the tubes inside the reservoir and the other one would be the other way around. So many options, so many headaches.
Who would use all of this and spend thatuch crazy money?
Steve : I know exactly someone who fell through that custom loop rabbit hole.
Regardless of what EKWB offers, if it's acrylic. Expect cracks when used for a short period of time due to thermal expansion.
Steve was right: Jay is the right guy for the job.
As for the "two of them in one case", I'd go for a dual-system case (can't remember the name of these) and go all-out on the visual difference. The distro/reservoir are black and silver, instead of matching color ? That's not a bug, that's a feature... if you build two loops, and make them visually distinct with different fittings, different cooolant and so on.
Next step EK is going to make a case with holes. Your case becomes a reservoir with inlet/outlet points.
We do have a compression fitting small enough to fit inside the distro, it's in your hand at 11:47
Copper tubes running into the reservoir from another reservoir. filled with ice water made by a EK TEC cooling block would be a sick build.
V3000+ rotated layout you have rear distro and front distro
Hey Jay. Here is an idea. In each reservoir, have a different color coolant. From each reservoir, run to the other reservoir as the distribution block. This way, the pipes in each block will have the color of the other reservoir, making a nice contrast
that unique design doesnt need to be tubes fit with pressure and stuff... because vacuum from the pump it will make the tubes compress in the fittings making it well fit without too much effort and its a really interesting design to be honest
This feels like its best use would be as a key to mak another distro plate.
This would be awesome to use in a build with two of these distro plates, but run them as to serperate loops with different colours and have them run through each other, so you get like pink tubes in a blue reservoir and blue tubes in the pink res.
It’s been many a decade since I last heard the “yo dawg, I heard you like x” meme
With two blocks/loops, use one with clear water and the other with an intense color. And then run the color tubing through the clear water block.
Two different loops with different colors. So each reservoir would be filled with one color and has a network of internal tubing with a different color.
Based on the video I'm pretty sure it'd work, but testing may disagree.
When fitting/measuring the internal tubing, do the start like you did, fittings inside in place, then take both fittings out when you place the tube into the fittings, then put the fittings with the tubing already connected back in. Since the low profile fittings appear to tighten independently of the connection point quite easily. This should allow you to get a tighter fit to compensate for the loss of a compression connection. Should be able to get the extra mm or 2 you likely lose due to needing some manipulation space.
It's like somebody tried to take the concept of a network patch panel, and apply it to water cooling.
Put your tube connectors on the tubes before installing the tubing. Fit your tubing to the 90 degree fittings, and use your "non compression fittings to lock the seal per tightening. Those fittings seal by bringing the tubing into the threads of the connection.
As much as I'd love to see you complete a build - I fail to see the value of something like this.
Face it - 99.9% of folks would only water-cool the CPU (let's assume) - CPU cooler blocks have one inlet/one outlet - why would anyone use the inner tubing/fixtures to create internal closed-loops?
How does that cool anything?
Using two of these in 2 separate loops with different fluid colors that pass through the other colors blocks would be interesting. Such as a Yellow loop in one with a Blue loop in the other so you get a Green look inside the blocks where the one loop passes through the other.
Should toss it in a Monotech King 95. It has space for two 140mm that pivot, allowing you to use either the glass plate on the front, or a mesh panel. Also, that case comes in many different color options.
im glad to see jay and gamersnexus have a good relation the only two tech reviewers i even care to watch
I just put 2x Alphacool Rise Flat Reservoir D5 with VPP pump in a Haf 700, it filled up quick those are 2 times the size your gonna need a truly huge case.
My biggest concern is having that many options to run tubing inside would increase the risk of a leak over time. As someone who used to do a custom loop I still prefer the pump/res combo. I do like the look of the low profile fittings but would prefer them to come with the metal collar to keep the tube from popping out. I can no longer afford it so i use an AIO.
Jay hear me out 16 loops with 16 pumps but one reservoir using this. No tubes inside, just use every in and out of the reservoir. 16 feeds at the bottom with 16 pumps drawing and then 16 returns at the top. Not sure what would happen, but I doubt anybody tops it,
"Do you want leaks in your case, cause I can get you leaks, as many as you want."
Surely the development of this water block when EK was is good financial status.
I can see you're building up to a 10-part follow up video series here.
Oooh, if you had two loops that don’t connect (say for a GPU and CPU) you could use the reservoir for one with a transparent color and then do several tubes inside with like a glitter color additive. Then you get lines of one color running through your other color. Could look neat
Corsair 7000 series case. I'm using one with the intention of one day using a water loop as well, just right now I can't be assed and there's a lot more fudging around with shizz to get it all working. but hey, we got your vids for that, right?
Make a custom case out of Maple. Nice open air water-cooled art piece. Or fabricate one in the auto shop. Or just one of your myriad huge cases you've shown in the past... I don't know. I just really like the thought of a handmade wooden case to attach on a wall somewhere or as part of the desk. Seems really cool.
So you technically can make it into a heat exchanger setup by running chilled water in the reservoir...?
That would be an awesome theme build for the Disney movie Elemental. Have two of the blocks with one holding red "Fire" fluid with the tubing for the red fluid going into the other block that holds the blue "Water" color. Then vise versa. The blue tubing running in the red block. An amazing Fire and Ice build. Please think on it.
I might have an alternative idea for the concept of a watercooling "patch board". Instead of relying on internal tubing, why not have 4 columns of a loop with slots machined to place dams?
this would be cool for a showoff kind of build. with 2 of em you could have 2 independent loops with different color coolants running through. like one loop for CPU and the other for GPU where loop 1 can run through internal routing through manifold 2 and vise versa kinda like the umbrella corp virus tubes.
11:38 If you press the couplings together with the pipe and then screw them into the block, they will be fine👌
make 2 intersecting loops crossing eachother but not mixing in fluid. gives you the option to use 2 different colors fluid
When I got into computers in the 90s, I never thought it would involve plumbing.
use both, make 2 separate loops, and use 2 different color fluids. Run the opposing loops through the opposing reservoirs
Thermaltake The Tower 900. I have one and it is awesome.
even if you dont like coloured fluid, it would be fun to have an am5/nvidia build with one res with green and one with red, but the tubing go through the opposite reservoir making the red and green fluid cross each other in the reservoir.
well, intel in blue would work too.
so if we don't like colored fluid, it'd be fun to have colored fluid?
@@alb9022 yes, because it would be fun :)
Have you considered the possibility of running separate loops for GPU and CPU, while ensuring that the other loops are connected to the reservoir and go back to their respective loops? This could potentially improve the performance and efficiency of the system.
It might be cool if you used coloured tubing inside and a clear fluid that way the submerged tubes still stand out.
I would think you could use it by connecting components in parallel i.e. multiple outs (or split after the outlet using T fittings) to each component then each component returns to a separate inlet port
Oh god, a watercooling breadboard
i think the idea is you fill the thing completely full if on of the fitttings leaks it dosent matter since its submerged
Use the Phanteks NV9; Run one loop with all your components and 2 rads through this distro block where all the tubes are run inside of it, never actually using this res/pump but fed from the other completely separate pump and res. Then have a separate loop with its own radiators using this block that then bathes those pipes that run inside of it and run it out to the huge external watercooling tower you showed a few videos ago thats just loaded up with rads and maybe a second pump/res to help overcome the pressure. That way you're quite literally watercooling your watercooling.
Very late on this one, but Koolance does have some very low-profile 90 degree elbows (NZL-LXG2). Though I used barbed fittings and zip-ties because I was using 16mm tubing.
Please use both blocks and fill up all the ports having tubes go back and forth between them. Make a chaos build with ALL the watercooling
Before I saw the price, my plan for one of these was to replace the front of a meshlicious, use the reservoir and built in pump for the CPU with clear fluid and then run a separate GPU loop with it's own pump with something like red or purple for the runs on the inside with 2 small external radiators under the desk... would have been sweet but I'm pretty sure that the cost of this addition would probably be similar to the cost of the rest of the loop put together... cool idea for somebody who has more $ than sense...
I feel like it would make more sense to use it as a reservoir.
If you had multiple pumps, you could hook up multiple in and out and it would all flow properly. Just want to make sure it goes to your rads first so you don’t risk pulling hot water into your components.