I suspect that Michael Jackson was easy to love. He was a lovable person. Trouble was, no one wanted to commit to him. He wanted to have marriage and a family. Hollywood stars do not always go for that.
Hes always shown some kinda distain towards sex. Everytime he speaks about it its with disgust or shyness/nervousness. Most likely due to his jehova witness upbringing and his father and brothers cheating and sleeping with gitls in the same room as him when he was just a child.
I hate how the public are so obsessed with a star's s*x life. Thats private. i get angry hearing people asking mj or anyone about who they have slept with. its no ones business and nothing to do with their art whether someones a music star, actor,sports star, business leader etc. private is private is private.
PRE-FRICKIN-CISELY!!! Any person's sexual history should remain strictly between them and their partner, famous or not. Sadly, our current culture is beyond obsessed with the subject, and its all completely insane.
You live in the age of internet sex porn education, lgbtquia, gay marriage, abortion, militant feminism and more liberal filth. So I’m not surprised sex within marriage is abnormal now.
I wonder about the full impact of his father's abuse.....was he sexually abusive to Michael too ? As Latoya acused her father of.....and I believe her.....messed up family.
Amen 🙏 she was the aggressor. Thank God he didn't give in to the lil Jessabelle because if anything had happened, MJ would have been the one in jail 😒😬🤯🤢🤮
@@christinascibetta1043 Your going overboard, as his father didn't sexually abuse him or LaToya. LaToya was in an abusive relationship with a man called Jack Gordon who forced her to lie that Joseph Jackson sexually abused her.
Their love affair just wasn't ment to be. Michael had no luck with women and yet he was deeply loved by millions all around the World. In fact still is. Great job "the Detail" Thank you ✌
He had a 9 year relationship with Lisa Marie Presley, including marriage & after they divorced, Everyone who knew Michael said that Lisa Marie WAS Michael's love life.
If anyone doesn’t know Tatum O’Neal and her past,, how her horrible parents let her be in Hollywood, you need to read. They exploited her at a very young age , and she was THAT kind of girl. If you listen to these interviews, she gets words and other things wrong.. i guess she’s still abusing, or it’s highly affected her thoughts… Geez at 8 years old she was bad.. and about being asked about Leaving Neverland? She’d rather agree with the thought of him being that way instead of getting booted worse from Hollywood, and getting the hate she already experienced from the wrath of Michael fans…. Anyone that’s been secretly investigated by the FBI for 11 years and didn’t find ANYTHING should be plenty of proof… All weirdos have all the evidence on their computers and phones…Michael had NOTHING.. because he was innocent and proven innocent. Wade and James both were in financial problems, with lawsuits and all of a sudden want to turn their stories around and accuse, and want millions.. WAKE UP!
I just goggled who she is. Is she MK Ultra controlled ? Or Monarch ? It's a sex kitten program too they use. They use it on playboy bunnies. The logo ! She has 🇮🇱 ancestry so that's how they work in Hollywood. Perfect toe in too, Hugh Hefner is 🇮🇱 also. What others go to jail for, he did for 50 years unimpeded.
@@levallewis5626 just speaking to the ones that claimed he was this or that, and the haters that doesn’t care to learn anything about him, but loves to post horrible things 😉
I think it was more-so the "lack" of evidence, at least in the press. Michael was rarely seen going out with women other than Tatum and Brooke Shields, but since he never married till his mid-30s there was a lot of speculation, especially since he was reported as being a virgin up until the early 90s.
Girl, neither you nor your family deserved MJ. I'm so glad he walked away. When he was rejected by you, you know what they say: REJECTION IS GOD'S PROTECTION. Not saying that someone is innocent, even if it's just in your eyes, is exactly like saying he's guilty. He treated you so well and that's the appreciation you showed. YOU DID NOT DESERVE HIS GENTLE SOUL.
I think if MJ had the right woman who understood and could help him in his life, he would have been happy. Great video from the detail. Long live the king of pop. 💖🎉
And I think it was that woman that was in the way you make me feel music video forget her name but they made her cut ties with mj but he hand picked herself for the music video cause he liked her and thought she was cute but I think that’s the one woman he could’ve had something real with including marriage and kids
Of course, Michael Jackson is a very complex person. And if Tatum'o Neal said: “I 🤷♀️ don’t know” - this means that she really didn’t know him for real.
@@MegaAndjacit’s NOT Lisa. Lisa is 10 years younger than him, Michael mentioned the lady being older and standing up for him against his dad? Who did that? Diana Ross, she’s the only one that was close to Michael that stood up against his father.
My god….😢 I still smile when I see Michael. I never cared how much his condition changed him. I loved him regardless. *Sigh* my heart broke the way he described how shy he got. And I Absolutely Hear him. He just…Wanted to find Real love before he died….I hear you Michael. I hear you….I am happy he got to at least accomplish his life by becoming a father…
If there's one particular bugbear that grinds my gears, it's how journalists seem to have a negativity arsenal primed and ready for MJ, as if they're his personal paparazzi with a hotline to pessimism
the timeline doesnt add up, she says their friendship ended because of the wiz premiere but that was 1978 and clearly a lot of those pics are late 1979/1980
Tatum was a train wreck who’s been abused and damaged by her own father and the industry. She was hot and ready since a kid. Michael wasn’t and refused her. That’s caused her to resent him now she tries to make him look like a freak.
Michael's view(s) on sex got warped when he was almost a baby. He and his brothers were performing in strip clubs when he was 5 (seeing stuff he shouldn't see), he knew his dad was cheating on his mom when they were on the road and he couldn't say anything, his brothers were having sex with groupies while he was in the room, older girls/women were throwing themselves at him when it was TOTALLY age-inappropriate, and he wasn't in school around other kids his age (going through the normal "rites of passage" and comparing notes) to even know what "normal" was. That HAS to affect how you feel about physical intimacy - even when you're older. And let's remember, he said he didn't even have friends for most of his life. The idea of being naked and vulnerable with someone - not really knowing their intentions - was a helluva hurdle to get over. Also (and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way), he just didn't seem to have the highest sex drive in the world. Sexy? Absolutely. But offstage, it just didn't seem like his interests ran in that direction. Obviously, at a certain point, he couldn't go out to "chase women," but he didn't seem to have any interest in having them come to him either. I think he got stuck thinking of "romantic love" in a childlike way for a long time - and the things that came with an "adult" relationship terrified him. I do think it's interesting that his religion (or "saving myself for marriage") didn't seem to have anything to do with his hesitancy though; he knew what Tatum was planning, went to her house, and got on the bed anyway; apparently, he tried, but just couldn't muster up the courage to go through with it.
Or maybe he was gay. It doesn’t have to be that deep people. I am a big fan, being gay is not an issue now but maybe it was in the 70s and 80s, specially for a black man
@@fraynelisulerio418Tatum said that He was in love with Diana Ross and that was real . In another interview. He did not wanted any other woman . That was it .
@@fraynelisulerio418 He wasn't gay, why do you want to force that idea? He never even gave any sign of it. But yes, he gave indications that he was very shy, with a baggage with more trauma than meets the eye. And yes, it's hard to believe his shyness, given that he sang and danced like no one else. But when you sat down and talked to him, you could already see that especially on certain topics.
@@sarahfaithfk888 Maybe yes and maybe not. But those who knew him said he fell in love with Lisa Presley, and the thing with Diana was an adoration from when he was younger. I don't remember where I read this, but it was said that she was the love of his life, but circumstances acted against it. Even more so that she didn't get pregnant because it wasn't in the plans and Michael really wanted to start a family.
Diana Ross is too classy and old school to tell whatever happened with Michael. She will die with her secrets . They may reveal everything when she dies . But she will never speak .
In some of the audio from the Glenda Stein tapes, Michael is actually talking about an older woman he was in love with (presumably Diana Ross) and not Tatum. I can only imagine how the juxtaposition of being a sheltered, devout Jehovah's Witness and superstar in Hollywood might've caused some serious whiplash. It was really interesting learning about this relationship/part of his life so please keep the videos coming. Love the channel!
Great dichotomy. The 🇮🇱 girl was aggressive and sexual and Michael was modest and pious. He was raised in the hall and did work undercover until thriller came out. They excommunicated him !
@@thedetail. I’ve listened to the Glenda tapes myself, some of the audio footage is cut up so in most tapes he’s talking about different women. Tatum was a child so I doubt that he’d be buying her jewellery, houses, cars and all of that stuff.
@@thedetail. He does! But then the audio breaks and he speaks about having his 'nose wide open' for an older woman who stood up to his father a little after he mentions Tatum
She confuses name of the album, she confuses Priscilla with Lisa or maybe Michael with Elvis.. She thought She's out of my life was about her, but Michael didn't write it. He was a Nga so she stopped dating him, then he become no 1 and she had a second thought
Well, that is your hypothesis and it may be correct, however, in the "Off the Wall" documentary, the producers mentioned that he did not write that song but when he performed it he was crying the entire time during the recordings and they asked him what's wrong with you? are you OK? Who do you dedicate it to?
@@3776-d8nThat looked fake anyway. He always put on fake drama... Fake flights with his brothers on stage etc. Breaking down in man on the mirror he liked to be entertaining.
@@chrissylew4669 Yes, as a kid, Drew was at adult parties too, seeing all kinds of things a kid shouldn't. Can't remember if she was SA'd at one too, but I know that's how she started drinking and sniffing. Some people just shouldn't become parents.
I think he was a sensitive soul and what I mean by that is if in fact his dad was very stern on the guys dating and so forth I can see why Mj was so patient on when he was ready but was so loving i can imagine him being the one that truly wanted love and just not sex but love and again if he grew up to no about women and you a star they just want this n that i can Honestly understand why the man waited Perioddd...he dated some of the most beautiful women in the world and was one amazing guy and entertainer
The calls you are showing here were for Diana Ross not Tatum. She was just a girlfriend bcoz Diana Ross was only fooling around with him while he was pretty serious for Diana since he was younger, according to Jermaine n everyone who knows Michael. He was doing the Wiz just bcoz of her. Tatum was just an infatuation.
It reminds me of Andy Gibb and Victoria Principal. Both women older than their admirers, both women who didn't take their love seriously. Andy was deeply depressed after that and sank even deeper into drugs. As for Michael and Diana and the supposed passion, I think what he felt cooled down over the years and all that was left was admiration. Or not, and he just tried to get over it and move on. Sometimes it's better to keep things as they are.
Yes you do stop there you judgemental t**t. There were many back then who were underage who went to these places. Brooke Sheilds, Drew Barrymore… so please stop acting like you know something that the world was unaware of. Times were so much different then than they are now so get off your high horse.
It was during Micheal's late teens that he was also deeply involved with singer Stephanie Mills. And at 19 or 20 yrs of age, he had become heavily involved with his "older crush" - Dianna Ross- so much so that they were even "engage". 😏Haters leave out so many facts.
They had a 5 year age difference, which when you're 18 and somebody is 13 you're gonna think twice before putting your hands-on them sexually. I can understand why Michael was not too happy about getting involved with her like that. He always stated firmly that he was a gentleman first and foremost. Shy or not.
Tatum O'Neal was so high she called MJJ's album, "DYNASTY!" Instead of DESTINY 😅and then Tatum said it was mjj's first album with the Jacksons. Tatum, you're not that high😅
It's getting little irritating when Someone famous passes and all of the sudden every Woman that is also famous comes out of the shadows and says intimate things that the Person cannot say is true or NOT! Her dates are off for MJ, I knew him 37 years and so he was at Rod Stewart's house for a Party and Tatum was there and so MJ went to the Restroom and Tatum and her Friend bet each other that one of Them could be MJ's "FIRST TIME"...but, see They said THAT in front of the Restroom Door...and MJ HEARD ALL OF IT! And after that he and Tatum had a FEW "PR" dates and it all ENDED. She also tried to set him up to get intimate and he took off. MJ was incredibly decent and SHY. She was NOT his first time. SORRY. LET HIM REST TODAY is FIFTEEN YEARS he's GONE.
She was way too wild for Michael. He wasn't brought up that way. She basically raised herself so she didn't know right from wrong. Michael did. He knew respect and morals.
I feel bad for Michael. She had a sweet innocent pure heart and just wanted to be respectful but unfortunately he was in an environment where people had different intentions.
If he was feeling gay ofc he can talk Abt it or show it he doesn't need to be scared of anyone and other Artists in that time talked Abt their sexuality and that can encourage Him if he was a gay but no he did not say it and all of his songs and his dating life is a big evidence but ppl love to talk shit thats all
Are you forgetting that he grew up in a homophobic family and his own mother used to call him the f slur? There’s no way he couldn’t come out his image would be finish but he was planning to later in his life because he did say I wanna show the world a different side of me that only my close friends know about.
Independente de religião, de preconceito nos anos 80, o Michael, nunca foi “gay”! A Lisa jamais se casaria com ele, se não houvesse Sexo neste relacionamento! É que ele era muito tímido, pra falar sobre o assunto, foi sempre muito discreto! Deixem o cara em paz!
wtf was that last comment? maybe she worded it wrong but i think she meant she’s desensitized by weird things in hollywood. but the way she said it sounded like she wasn’t sickened by the thought of children being molested. sad that she didn’t defend michael
The manager called Michael out his name then when he blew up she was begging for Michael to be involved with Tatum. She sold Tatum to rich men and women
It's in the Bible to abstain from fornication. Jehovah's Witnesses are right because they follow the Bible as closely as possible, the way it should be. I really admire them!
@@girletteShut up!! First of all, he didn't give a damn to have publicity stunts rather he was very private n secret to tell about his women which cancels ur delusions. His bodyguards n close people came forward n told all about his secret relationships if u have got time to do some research other than imposing ur biased illigical delusions everywhere.
❤Michael Jackson the best all time Forever ❤King of Music ❤King of Pop ❤️ King of Rock❤️ King of Humanitarian ❤ King of Gentleman 👏 King of Big Humanitarian👏King of aktor❤️King of singer❤️King of dancer❤️ King of songwriter❤️The best pure soul. He has the purest, greatest magic energy in the world❤ It has the energy of the truest, strongest, purest spiritual Magic❤ The best person in the world who has done a lot for people here. Even for those who hurt him brutally❤🪽🙏 thank you very much for everything. thank you very much for your big heart, your wonderful energy, your help to those who owe their lives to you and to whose lives you bring miracles❤🙏🪽 We love you all Forever ❤️ We miss you all forever ❤️
considering how many falsehoods and hoaxes about michael jackson become the first search result when trying to find out anything about his life, it does make me question the legitimacy of the glenda tapes. it could be parts of the audio recorded were conversations that michael jackson had with that family, and then other parts used an impersonator. the whole thing was just sketchy. idk, when listening to the audio the voice that is supposed to be michael it actually sounds too high pitched.
Whats so crazy is my son is so much like Michael (he even kinda looks like him in his teenage years lol)... he is really shy around girls, wonders if girls really like him, but also at the age of 16 is not yet interested in sex or having a girlfriend yet... his twin on the other hand is the total opposite... my kids are very open and honest with me about everything... sometimes I feel like is this a conversation you should be having with your mom lol... but im glad at the same time that they are not afraid to tell me anything....
What’s the obsession with his sexuality? Media destroyed him because of his monetary power, sure fire way to bring someone down in public eye is to brand them ‘deviant’ in some way. Case for evidence is futile when public decides. We still here debating 15years after his death. Let him be at peace ❤
In Hollywood, children are corrupted both easily and quickly. One example is Drew Barrymore, who was a regular visitor to the infamous Studio 54 in her youth. The club was widely known as a source of rampant drug use and open sex, especially during its heyday from 1976 to 1989. Drew made her first entrance into rehab at age 13, and then attempted suicide at 14.
Do you know how many regular people are sexually active at 13?? Just because she was a celebrity doesn’t make it worse. I was sexually active at 15. Does that mean I’m a bad person or my parents failed me? I made the choice to do it. The girl who I was active with was 14. Doesn’t make us bad people or our parents evil. But because we are not celebrities it’s not a big deal.
No one is saying the child is wrong, but it is inappropriate for children to be sexually active. All I am saying is that why and how is a 13 year old being seductive. That is inappropriate. Talking about their relationship in this way is inappropriate. Just because something happens a lot doesn’t mean that it’s right. This is wrong, their relationship was wrong. Many people don’t understand what is and what is not appropriate. We have to be taught.
I never liked her! She didn't have love for him like Brooke and Lisa always did! I hated that she said Michael was a drug addict or didn't defend him about this disgusting documentary! Michael didn't die because of medicine! He was killed inside his own house! And that killer is free and no one is saying anything!😡😡😡😡😡
Michael had a pure soul to Always respect the people and he'snt the kind of boy's who has grown UP with many girl's he's never was like her brother's that why he gone so far in the music i alway's said micheal was a anger no a man or a little boy's Can act like that actually
Michael was very shy to the point that I wonder if it was because he was a child star and really didn't get the experience. Of growing up and going thru normal teenage events
I think Michael was more like Tito, a family man, when it came to women and relationships as opposed to Jermaine who by all accounts was his polar opposite. Jermaine wanted all the girls. And he got them
@@billyjohn7846 Why wouldn't she? The idea makes her seem more interesting. The fact that Michael never publicly acknowledged Stephanie Mills' existence, but instead eagerly claimed to have dated a 13-year-old Tatum when he was around 18 or 19 years old (which would have been illegal), speaks volumes. My guess is that Michael and Stephanie may have interacted casually once or twice, and she has spun it to mean something much more than it actually was.
Wasn’t he going with Stephanie mills then too? Stephanie said she used to go with him then. They were one year difference in age! Interesting she said it wasn't sick in Hollywood she knew the deal she was a child actress in an adult Hollywood world they probably got her at early age all them child actors/entertainers know. So sad 😢
I remember Stephanie Mills saying in interview videos that her and Michael were like close friends and "dated" but she really liked him and spent time with him while he was filming the Wiz in New York. She said she would come with him on set while he was filming sometimes. She also said that she would be at his apartment at times, cooking for him and washing his laundry, and that they supposedly kissed. (And that she had seen him in his underwear before chile). But it didn't go further than that. They may have liked each other but it seems I guess that they didn't further continue the friendship or relationship. And honestly I've never really seen or heard Michael talk about her. She kept saying she wanted to marry him though....
Reports do say he was with Stephanie Mills. Basically, they were often together and "dating" but no label. To Stephanie they were lovers, to Michael it meant nothing. Basically, he never claimed her or considered it. Thus, Tatum being his first gf
Theres Many michaels.and he was seen public with some people that he wanted to be seen.and some friendships and romance he wanted to keep private.either cause he wanted to keep his personal Life private or because that person didnt match his King of pop public persona.he carefully crafted an image.Brooke was his PR date.doesnt mean he wasnt seeing other Girls in the back.see we didnt know kobe Bryant was his friend until he died.and so Many others.
Nunca le permitieron socializar. Desde niño le apartaron de sus iguales y no le permitieron ser niño. Creció en un mundo de cristal alejado del resto de seres humanos. Debió ser muy duro para él no saber relacionarse con los demás, crear relaciones más allá de la amistad, pudiendo disfrutar de su sexualidad.
I suspect that Michael Jackson was easy to love. He was a lovable person. Trouble was, no one wanted to commit to him. He wanted to have marriage and a family. Hollywood stars do not always go for that.
I think so
Exactlyy
Also Michael obviously had mental health issues that made having a romantic relationship harder.
If you feel that way, then you don’t know enough about MJ.
Hes always shown some kinda distain towards sex. Everytime he speaks about it its with disgust or shyness/nervousness. Most likely due to his jehova witness upbringing and his father and brothers cheating and sleeping with gitls in the same room as him when he was just a child.
Mike was not 17 during Destiny Era he was 20 which probably explained why he was hesitant to do anything with Tatum who was 15
" That part "!!!!
People wanted with her because she was whyte
True also.
@@levallewis5626 No, he loved her because that was who HE chose! It had NOTHING to do with what everyone else wanted.
Exactly. She was underage by this time although MJ met her when he was underage too at 17.
I hate how the public are so obsessed with a star's s*x life. Thats private. i get angry hearing people asking mj or anyone about who they have slept with. its no ones business and nothing to do with their art whether someones a music star, actor,sports star, business leader etc. private is private is private.
That's what i've always noticed. They're so desperate to know like mind your own business & focus on other stuff. Sheesh 🙄.
PRE-FRICKIN-CISELY!!! Any person's sexual history should remain strictly between them and their partner, famous or not. Sadly, our current culture is beyond obsessed with the subject, and its all completely insane.
Ikr?? It’s so invasive and disrespectful in general!
Exactly!! It's disgusting.
His sexually was perverted....
The way she tries to take credit for his style is typical 🤨Michael was and is the ICON of our time!
Typical women
Very typical
@@BluEx22329 typical woman of no color, that thought she was above him. You missed a few words.
Its like people are always trynna steal from Mike in sum way shape or form 😂💯 its really sad
@@BluEx22329 typical woman of no color. She thought she was above him. You left a few words out.
michael saved himself for marriage and people cant fathom that thats why they gave him such a hard time he grew up religious nothing wrong with that
Idk Diana Ross may have seduce him in 77
You live in the age of internet sex porn education, lgbtquia, gay marriage, abortion, militant feminism and more liberal filth. So I’m not surprised sex within marriage is abnormal now.
Too bad you didn't follow after his lead 🍆😂
he gave up his religion in 1987 and he lost his virginity when he was 19 years old to Diana ross, so he did not save himself for marriage
No they can't
Michael deserved better
He's in a great place now
Exactly
I wonder about the full impact of his father's abuse.....was he sexually abusive to Michael too ? As Latoya acused her father of.....and I believe her.....messed up family.
Amen 🙏 she was the aggressor. Thank God he didn't give in to the lil Jessabelle because if anything had happened, MJ would have been the one in jail 😒😬🤯🤢🤮
@@christinascibetta1043 Your going overboard, as his father didn't sexually abuse him or LaToya. LaToya was in an abusive relationship with a man called Jack Gordon who forced her to lie that Joseph Jackson sexually abused her.
He was so shy, and he was very young, is normal to be that shy even at 20 even though you are a guy, I don't think is that weird.
Especially when you don't have the same kind of life as everyone else...On the road since you are a child. Plus, he was pretty religious back then!
Leave Michael alone! He’s. NOT PERFECT. But who is? Let the Greatest Rest In Peace.
@@leehartlee2970wasn’t he always religious
you think its normal for michael to have sex with a 13 year old girl?
She was younger than him,Michael was not shy,she didn't like girls...we all know what he liked.
I am glad young Micheal didn't get involve with her..
"I was pretty naive, im not joking" 😅 awww punkin 😂 he was such a pure soul 😌
Their love affair just wasn't ment to be. Michael had no luck with women and yet he was deeply loved by millions all around the World. In fact still is. Great job "the Detail" Thank you ✌
They were so young and not mature enough for this
He had a 9 year relationship with Lisa Marie Presley, including marriage & after they divorced, Everyone who knew Michael said that Lisa Marie WAS Michael's love life.
If anyone doesn’t know Tatum O’Neal and her past,, how her horrible parents let her be in Hollywood, you need to read. They exploited her at a very young age , and she was THAT kind of girl. If you listen to these interviews, she gets words and other things wrong.. i guess she’s still abusing, or it’s highly affected her thoughts… Geez at 8 years old she was bad.. and about being asked about Leaving Neverland? She’d rather agree with the thought of him being that way instead of getting booted worse from Hollywood, and getting the hate she already experienced from the wrath of Michael fans…. Anyone that’s been secretly investigated by the FBI for 11 years and didn’t find ANYTHING should be plenty of proof… All weirdos have all the evidence on their computers and phones…Michael had NOTHING.. because he was innocent and proven innocent. Wade and James both were in financial problems, with lawsuits and all of a sudden want to turn their stories around and accuse, and want millions.. WAKE UP!
I just goggled who she is. Is she MK Ultra controlled ? Or Monarch ? It's a sex kitten program too they use. They use it on playboy bunnies. The logo ! She has 🇮🇱 ancestry so that's how they work in Hollywood. Perfect toe in too, Hugh Hefner is 🇮🇱 also. What others go to jail for, he did for 50 years unimpeded.
Everyone knows about her and the rest of the clan
And one of those of “leaving neverland” even testified on his favor in the past 🙄
@@levallewis5626 just speaking to the ones that claimed he was this or that, and the haters that doesn’t care to learn anything about him, but loves to post horrible things 😉
Thanks so much,I agree with you.
I just don’t get why people think Michael was gay or asexual. Like, what evidence was there for it? 🤔
Exactly
Никаких. Ложь
I think it was more-so the "lack" of evidence, at least in the press. Michael was rarely seen going out with women other than Tatum and Brooke Shields, but since he never married till his mid-30s there was a lot of speculation, especially since he was reported as being a virgin up until the early 90s.
Stop facking lieing about my husband
Quincy Jones... IYKYK
This was fascinating. I enjoyed hearing both Michael and Tatum's unique perspectives on their early relationship together.
Thank you, it’s great who have Michael’s side, that is a very rare thing
@@thedetail.I will always have Michaels back
Yes it.. was wasn't it?
Girl, neither you nor your family deserved MJ. I'm so glad he walked away. When he was rejected by you, you know what they say: REJECTION IS GOD'S PROTECTION. Not saying that someone is innocent, even if it's just in your eyes, is exactly like saying he's guilty. He treated you so well and that's the appreciation you showed. YOU DID NOT DESERVE HIS GENTLE SOUL.
Verdade
@@Isa.Ferreira71 Abraço, Isa🌺
Absolutely right
❤
💯💯💯👍🏼👍🏼
I think if MJ had the right woman who understood and could help him in his life, he would have been happy. Great video from the detail. Long live the king of pop. 💖🎉
Thank you!
yes it shouldve been me
😂😂😂😂@@telikaandfam
@@Oghosa_Praise ill always love michael lol
And I think it was that woman that was in the way you make me feel music video forget her name but they made her cut ties with mj but he hand picked herself for the music video cause he liked her and thought she was cute but I think that’s the one woman he could’ve had something real with including marriage and kids
I think she meant the album Destiny not Dynasty
I think Tatums memory is screwed due to years of drug use. 😕
Dynasty is the Kiss album lol
Such a sad story between them. If only the world would listen to it.
Of course, Michael Jackson is a very complex person. And if Tatum'o Neal said: “I 🤷♀️ don’t know” - this means that she really didn’t know him for real.
it was such a long time ago, and remember she was also abused by hollywood, its hard to trust anyone after that.
Mj is innocent and MJ ALWAYS AND FOREVER LOVE you MJ ALWAYS ❤️
With you
always bizarre when people have to start a comment with declaring innocence.
@@coldacre why’s it weird? Lol
@@coldacrehow is it weird it’s the truth
It's not wierd that we believe Michael is innocent..he is and will always be innocent period.
No disrespect to Madonna, but NOBODY WAS BIGGER THAN MICHAEL during his peak dominance in the early 80's thru late 80's...NOBODY!!!!
Even after that... 😊
Facts! Still to this day
Michael
Prince
Madonna
These were the biggest music icons in the 1980’s. Michael had the edge over the other 2.
@@josephedwards2946
I will add Lionel Richie to that list?
King of Pop.
One of his bodyguards set the record straight. Michael was straight and as normal as one could be, given his mega star power.
Tatum is not the woman MJ was speaking about giving her cars, jewelry, or had his nose wide open. That audio is cut, the woman was never named.
Exactly
Diana Ross
It's Diana rose❤️
Lisa Marie
@@MegaAndjacit’s NOT Lisa. Lisa is 10 years younger than him, Michael mentioned the lady being older and standing up for him against his dad? Who did that? Diana Ross, she’s the only one that was close to Michael that stood up against his father.
My god….😢 I still smile when I see Michael. I never cared how much his condition changed him. I loved him regardless. *Sigh* my heart broke the way he described how shy he got. And I Absolutely Hear him. He just…Wanted to find Real love before he died….I hear you Michael. I hear you….I am happy he got to at least accomplish his life by becoming a father…
I found myself smiling too❤
If there's one particular bugbear that grinds my gears, it's how journalists seem to have a negativity arsenal primed and ready for MJ, as if they're his personal paparazzi with a hotline to pessimism
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the timeline doesnt add up, she says their friendship ended because of the wiz premiere but that was 1978 and clearly a lot of those pics are late 1979/1980
I think the wiz kinda killed there close relationship but they continued to be friends afterwards
Exactly. You took the words out of my mouth.
Romantically it ended but they were friends for years after
@@TickingClocksRomanticly it ended?, you said.. But, she was 13.. 🤔
@susannexox Yes unfortunately 🥴
Shes never gave me good vibes when it came to her involvement with him and the way she recalls things.
Tatum was a train wreck who’s been abused and damaged by her own father and the industry. She was hot and ready since a kid. Michael wasn’t and refused her. That’s caused her to resent him now she tries to make him look like a freak.
@@TheGossipGyal right? It’s incredibly sad all around.. 😔
@TheGossipThank You! Fior such spot on comment! you're exactly correct!!!Gyal
Michael's view(s) on sex got warped when he was almost a baby. He and his brothers were performing in strip clubs when he was 5 (seeing stuff he shouldn't see), he knew his dad was cheating on his mom when they were on the road and he couldn't say anything, his brothers were having sex with groupies while he was in the room, older girls/women were throwing themselves at him when it was TOTALLY age-inappropriate, and he wasn't in school around other kids his age (going through the normal "rites of passage" and comparing notes) to even know what "normal" was. That HAS to affect how you feel about physical intimacy - even when you're older. And let's remember, he said he didn't even have friends for most of his life. The idea of being naked and vulnerable with someone - not really knowing their intentions - was a helluva hurdle to get over. Also (and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way), he just didn't seem to have the highest sex drive in the world. Sexy? Absolutely. But offstage, it just didn't seem like his interests ran in that direction. Obviously, at a certain point, he couldn't go out to "chase women," but he didn't seem to have any interest in having them come to him either. I think he got stuck thinking of "romantic love" in a childlike way for a long time - and the things that came with an "adult" relationship terrified him. I do think it's interesting that his religion (or "saving myself for marriage") didn't seem to have anything to do with his hesitancy though; he knew what Tatum was planning, went to her house, and got on the bed anyway; apparently, he tried, but just couldn't muster up the courage to go through with it.
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Or maybe he was gay. It doesn’t have to be that deep people. I am a big fan, being gay is not an issue now but maybe it was in the 70s and 80s, specially for a black man
@@fraynelisulerio418Tatum said that He was in love with Diana Ross and that was real . In another interview. He did not wanted any other woman . That was it .
@@fraynelisulerio418 He wasn't gay, why do you want to force that idea? He never even gave any sign of it. But yes, he gave indications that he was very shy, with a baggage with more trauma than meets the eye. And yes, it's hard to believe his shyness, given that he sang and danced like no one else. But when you sat down and talked to him, you could already see that especially on certain topics.
@@sarahfaithfk888 Maybe yes and maybe not. But those who knew him said he fell in love with Lisa Presley, and the thing with Diana was an adoration from when he was younger. I don't remember where I read this, but it was said that she was the love of his life, but circumstances acted against it. Even more so that she didn't get pregnant because it wasn't in the plans and Michael really wanted to start a family.
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The person you guys need to interview is Diana Ross.
Diana Ross is too classy and old school to tell whatever happened with Michael. She will die with her secrets . They may reveal everything when she dies . But she will never speak .
@@sarahfaithfk888You're Right!! Also, She would never be Truthful! NEVER!!!
Love your introduction Mike. You brought a lot of memories when my Husband and I used to go to Vegas. It's not the same anymore.
In some of the audio from the Glenda Stein tapes, Michael is actually talking about an older woman he was in love with (presumably Diana Ross) and not Tatum. I can only imagine how the juxtaposition of being a sheltered, devout Jehovah's Witness and superstar in Hollywood might've caused some serious whiplash. It was really interesting learning about this relationship/part of his life so please keep the videos coming. Love the channel!
He mentions Tatum by name in the conversation though
He talked about Diana in phone conversation as well, but it may have been later on than these tapes.
Great dichotomy. The 🇮🇱 girl was aggressive and sexual and Michael was modest and pious. He was raised in the hall and did work undercover until thriller came out. They excommunicated him !
@@thedetail. I’ve listened to the Glenda tapes myself, some of the audio footage is cut up so in most tapes he’s talking about different women. Tatum was a child so I doubt that he’d be buying her jewellery, houses, cars and all of that stuff.
@@thedetail. He does! But then the audio breaks and he speaks about having his 'nose wide open' for an older woman who stood up to his father a little after he mentions Tatum
Destiny! Destiny Destiny! “ Dynasty”😂
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I hope the mj biopic doesn't cover her story.
Right like at all
Ya.. Not significant enough..
@amazingvibes4171 I'm not kidding when I say 300 hours wouldn't be long enough. I don't even see how they are going to pull this off...at all.
@amazingvibes4171Apparently it will be close to 4 hours
There were photos recently of an actress who looks like her on set. Could be anyone though. Maybe even Brooke?
She confuses name of the album, she confuses Priscilla with Lisa or maybe Michael with Elvis.. She thought She's out of my life was about her, but Michael didn't write it. He was a Nga so she stopped dating him, then he become no 1 and she had a second thought
Correct analysis 👍🏼
Well, that is your hypothesis and it may be correct, however, in the "Off the Wall" documentary, the producers mentioned that he did not write that song but when he performed it he was crying the entire time during the recordings and they asked him what's wrong with you? are you OK? Who do you dedicate it to?
@@bssb4779 i think he might've been crying about her? about being lonely? but the song wasnt about her no
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@@3776-d8nThat looked fake anyway. He always put on fake drama... Fake flights with his brothers on stage etc. Breaking down in man on the mirror he liked to be entertaining.
She was like Drew Barrymore as a child in Hollyweird.
As was MJ ❤️
You meant messed up?
@@chrissylew4669 Yes, as a kid, Drew was at adult parties too, seeing all kinds of things a kid shouldn't. Can't remember if she was SA'd at one too, but I know that's how she started drinking and sniffing. Some people just shouldn't become parents.
@@misschin99 i agreeed...
Very much so, the Drew Barrymore of the '70s.
I think he was a sensitive soul and what I mean by that is if in fact his dad was very stern on the guys dating and so forth I can see why Mj was so patient on when he was ready but was so loving i can imagine him being the one that truly wanted love and just not sex but love and again if he grew up to no about women and you a star they just want this n that i can Honestly understand why the man waited Perioddd...he dated some of the most beautiful women in the world and was one amazing guy and entertainer
Hoping they choose Madison Pettis as Tatiana Thumbtzen to play for the upcoming MJ biopic as she an MJ fan.
She would be perfect for the role !!!
Probably not gonna happen but hope for the best
@@Unknown24466 Wrong. The estate know MJ wasn’t into women s*xually anyways
She said Dynasty instead of Destiny LOL 0:15
The calls you are showing here were for Diana Ross not Tatum. She was just a girlfriend bcoz Diana Ross was only fooling around with him while he was pretty serious for Diana since he was younger, according to Jermaine n everyone who knows Michael. He was doing the Wiz just bcoz of her. Tatum was just an infatuation.
It reminds me of Andy Gibb and Victoria Principal. Both women older than their admirers, both women who didn't take their love seriously. Andy was deeply depressed after that and sank even deeper into drugs. As for Michael and Diana and the supposed passion, I think what he felt cooled down over the years and all that was left was admiration. Or not, and he just tried to get over it and move on. Sometimes it's better to keep things as they are.
If she had Any Respect for him she would keep her trap shut!! 💯
At the time she vehemently denied dating him, it hurt to see her act like he was the plague, now it’s on and off for two years gtfoh!!
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Honour and treasure for always, we are one. God bless Michael soul forever presence.
Despite the age gap, Tatum was moving too fast for Michael. Of course she doesn't want to talk about that now. 🤫
Some kids always move fast. BUT that is why the adults in their lives should pause.
@@vivstone4596 Michael was an adult at the time (20), Tatum was 15 and had no family adults in her life.
Michael his shyness is so cute..Love you so much Michael💜✨️💛🫶💞💖😘😘😘😘
At 13-14 she was partying at nightclubs with adults nightly like it was normal. I'll stop there.
Poor girl. Her parents failed her
@@TickingClocks they absolutely did 😔
It was normal for teen actors back then.
Yes you do stop there you judgemental t**t.
There were many back then who were underage who went to these places. Brooke Sheilds, Drew Barrymore… so please stop acting like you know something that the world was unaware of.
Times were so much different then than they are now so get off your high horse.
@@TickingClocks ...wrong "F" word.........and yes, her dad did.
It was during Micheal's late teens that he was also deeply involved with singer Stephanie Mills. And at 19 or 20 yrs of age, he had become heavily involved with his "older crush" - Dianna Ross- so much so that they were even "engage". 😏Haters leave out so many facts.
They had a 5 year age difference, which when you're 18 and somebody is 13 you're gonna think twice before putting your hands-on them sexually. I can understand why Michael was not too happy about getting involved with her like that. He always stated firmly that he was a gentleman first and foremost. Shy or not.
So no one is going to mention why her agent told her not to go to the Wiz premiere, and what word she used?!? I can pretty much guess... Very sad.
She called him the N word and kind of something along the lines that going around with Michael would affect her career cause Michael is black
Cause of that n word her and Michael never was the same. Lol
How cute, michael wasnt ready. He was too shy.
Rest in peace Micheal j Jackson 🙏🏻🙌🏿⭐🕊️😇😭💐🌹👑
Tatum O'Neal was so high she called MJJ's album, "DYNASTY!" Instead of DESTINY 😅and then Tatum said it was mjj's first album with the Jacksons. Tatum, you're not that high😅
Thank you Tatum for kind and loving memories of MK.
MJ.
It's getting little irritating when Someone famous passes and all of the sudden every Woman that is also famous comes out of the shadows and says intimate things that the Person cannot say is true or NOT! Her dates are off for MJ, I knew him 37 years and so he was at Rod Stewart's house for a Party and Tatum was there and so MJ went to the Restroom and Tatum and her Friend bet each other that one of Them could be MJ's "FIRST TIME"...but, see They said THAT in front of the Restroom Door...and MJ HEARD ALL OF IT! And after that he and Tatum had a FEW "PR" dates and it all ENDED. She also tried to set him up to get intimate and he took off. MJ was incredibly decent and SHY. She was NOT his first time. SORRY. LET HIM REST TODAY is FIFTEEN YEARS he's GONE.
She was way too wild for Michael. He wasn't brought up that way. She basically raised herself so she didn't know right from wrong. Michael did. He knew respect and morals.
She said Dynasty 😂😂😂 but I know she meant destiny. That was not their first album as the Jacksons.
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It’s his voice and make-up made him seem feminine, and he was also so shy and childlike
How is this relevant here anyway??? He is more handsome than any average man out there so plz get over it.
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R.I.P to a good positive person Michael Jackson .
I feel bad for Michael. She had a sweet innocent pure heart and just wanted to be respectful but unfortunately he was in an environment where people had different intentions.
I always like Tatum O'Neal feel so sad for her. i can understand her pain and suffering from and with loosing a long lost love.
I don't think we need to know any of this.
If he was feeling gay ofc he can talk Abt it or show it he doesn't need to be scared of anyone and other Artists in that time talked Abt their sexuality and that can encourage Him if he was a gay but no he did not say it and all of his songs and his dating life is a big evidence but ppl love to talk shit thats all
exactly!
Are you forgetting that he grew up in a homophobic family and his own mother used to call him the f slur? There’s no way he couldn’t come out his image would be finish but he was planning to later in his life because he did say I wanna show the world a different side of me that only my close friends know about.
@@girletteWait where did you read that about Katherine? Both his parents were dreadful
@@hauntedireland9237 You’re denial.
Independente de religião, de preconceito nos anos 80, o Michael, nunca foi “gay”! A Lisa jamais se casaria com ele, se não houvesse Sexo neste relacionamento! É que ele era muito tímido, pra falar sobre o assunto, foi sempre muito discreto! Deixem o cara em paz!
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HE WAS and IS THE KING !! 👑🌹👑
Love HIM forever, so pitty HE was'nt happy...💧💙💧
From ROMANIA, all my love with the colours of my heart,
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wtf was that last comment? maybe she worded it wrong but i think she meant she’s desensitized by weird things in hollywood. but the way she said it sounded like she wasn’t sickened by the thought of children being molested. sad that she didn’t defend michael
Yaaaaa! She was terrible in the end!!!
The manager called Michael out his name then when he blew up she was begging for Michael to be involved with Tatum. She sold Tatum to rich men and women
Being a star sounds really horrible. Too many hanger-overs want to control you. 😢
He truly gave us his all..
Tatum never love him because if you love somebody ,trust him and she to me was like a ghost .
Lastima que Michael Jackson se fijara en ella por que no lo llego a conocer y que dude de el al final es muy triste 😢
Michael was raised as a Jehovah witness. So was I. No sex before marriage. I don’t know how old he was before he stopped being one.
He left in 1987 but still followed a lot of the beliefs until his death.
He wasn’t a virgin when he had the pr marriages. I believe he lost it some time during off the wall to Diana specifically.
The Jehovah’s girls I know are the BIGGEST purveyors of promiscuity 😂
It's in the Bible to abstain from fornication. Jehovah's Witnesses are right because they follow the Bible as closely as possible, the way it should be. I really admire them!
He was born in 1958, and left the JWs in 1987...which would've made him 29 at the time.
Michael dated lots of big named women.
Many forget that he is black and the majority of these songs are about women so people who think he is homosexual or asexual are wrong
THAT Part!!!
Dating them didn’t mean anything romantic plus it was all publicity stunts.
@@girletteHe was regularly sexual with his wife, Lisa Marie, he was just the type who didn't want to do it outside of marriage.
@@girletteShut up!! First of all, he didn't give a damn to have publicity stunts rather he was very private n secret to tell about his women which cancels ur delusions. His bodyguards n close people came forward n told all about his secret relationships if u have got time to do some research other than imposing ur biased illigical delusions everywhere.
That was very interesting . Never heard they're connection before.
Oh that's who She's Out Of My Life was about
@@levallewis5626 MJ didn't write She's Out Of My Life
@@levallewis5626 Michael didn't write she's out of my life and it was not about her.
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I still don't believe that's actually michael in the Glenda tapes.... its something that's just off to me
That's him they were close friends
considering how many falsehoods and hoaxes about michael jackson become the first search result when trying to find out anything about his life, it does make me question the legitimacy of the glenda tapes.
it could be parts of the audio recorded were conversations that michael jackson had with that family, and then other parts used an impersonator. the whole thing was just sketchy. idk, when listening to the audio the voice that is supposed to be michael it actually sounds too high pitched.
No those are real tapes
Yeah I agree. That voice sounds nothing like him. Never believed it was him
Those tapes are real, they’re just heavily edited
Whats so crazy is my son is so much like Michael (he even kinda looks like him in his teenage years lol)... he is really shy around girls, wonders if girls really like him, but also at the age of 16 is not yet interested in sex or having a girlfriend yet... his twin on the other hand is the total opposite... my kids are very open and honest with me about everything... sometimes I feel like is this a conversation you should be having with your mom lol... but im glad at the same time that they are not afraid to tell me anything....
So weird how this interviewer is so obsessed with who MJ slept with, like get a life. RIP King MJ❤❤❤❤
It's a good thing Michael never got together with her, doesn't sound like she would have stood up for him on anything.
Tatum .. passed around to service the elite as a tween like a blunt at a snoop after party ..
I think it's all about energy, if the energy doesn't match it's would be disastrous.
What’s the obsession with his sexuality? Media destroyed him because of his monetary power, sure fire way to bring someone down in public eye is to brand them ‘deviant’ in some way. Case for evidence is futile when public decides. We still here debating 15years after his death. Let him be at peace ❤
No one is going to talk about how a 13 year old is so sexual? This is Wildly inappropriate.
I hope she was not ab*sed by Hollywood, that behavior is indicative of some sort of grooming
In Hollywood, children are corrupted both easily and quickly. One example is Drew Barrymore, who was a regular visitor to the infamous Studio 54 in her youth. The club was widely known as a source of rampant drug use and open sex, especially during its heyday from 1976 to 1989. Drew made her first entrance into rehab at age 13, and then attempted suicide at 14.
Do you know how many regular people are sexually active at 13?? Just because she was a celebrity doesn’t make it worse. I was sexually active at 15. Does that mean I’m a bad person or my parents failed me? I made the choice to do it. The girl who I was active with was 14. Doesn’t make us bad people or our parents evil. But because we are not celebrities it’s not a big deal.
@357twilson Good no child came out of that.
No one is saying the child is wrong, but it is inappropriate for children to be sexually active. All I am saying is that why and how is a 13 year old being seductive. That is inappropriate. Talking about their relationship in this way is inappropriate. Just because something happens a lot doesn’t mean that it’s right. This is wrong, their relationship was wrong. Many people don’t understand what is and what is not appropriate. We have to be taught.
Tatum o meal was Mj’s stupid mistake. The problem with the King is he allowed a lot of u classy people into his life .
It seems like the approach was not in balance between them. She may wanted go faster into it and may he is the type who needs to slow down.
I never liked her! She didn't have love for him like Brooke and Lisa always did! I hated that she said Michael was a drug addict or didn't defend him about this disgusting documentary! Michael didn't die because of medicine! He was killed inside his own house! And that killer is free and no one is saying anything!😡😡😡😡😡
Michael had a pure soul to Always respect the people and he'snt the kind of boy's who has grown UP with many girl's he's never was like her brother's that why he gone so far in the music i alway's said micheal was a anger no a man or a little boy's Can act like that actually
he was hooking up with a 13 years old at 17? what the hell?
Michael was very shy to the point that I wonder if it was because he was a child star and really didn't get the experience. Of growing up and going thru normal teenage events
Sad…another Hollywood victim…13 years old telling a 17 year old, what she was going to do to him
I love his original look.
Destiny wasnt the first album as The Jacksons though 🤔
Exactly.
Every video I’ve ever seen of Micheal they always say that he was a real woman’s guy. He loved women.
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I think Michael was more like Tito, a family man, when it came to women and relationships as opposed to Jermaine who by all accounts was his polar opposite. Jermaine wanted all the girls. And he got them
What about Stephanie Mills????
What about her?
@@thedetail. Wasn't she MJ's girlfriend, Michael however never mentioned dating her
@@billyjohn7846 There you go. He never claimed her.
@@pensiveczar2239 then why would she go around and say she was and all those stories about him
@@billyjohn7846 Why wouldn't she? The idea makes her seem more interesting. The fact that Michael never publicly acknowledged Stephanie Mills' existence, but instead eagerly claimed to have dated a 13-year-old Tatum when he was around 18 or 19 years old (which would have been illegal), speaks volumes. My guess is that Michael and Stephanie may have interacted casually once or twice, and she has spun it to mean something much more than it actually was.
Shame on the person recording him. No wonder he stayed so private, with "friends" like that. 🤦♀️
Wasn’t he going with Stephanie mills then too? Stephanie said she used to go with him then. They were one year difference in age! Interesting she said it wasn't sick in Hollywood she knew the deal she was a child actress in an adult Hollywood world they probably got her at early age all them child actors/entertainers know. So sad 😢
He never claimed her. She only stated they were friends and nothing serious happened
@@girlette you talkin bout Stephanie mills or Tatum?
I remember Stephanie Mills saying in interview videos that her and Michael were like close friends and "dated" but she really liked him and spent time with him while he was filming the Wiz in New York. She said she would come with him on set while he was filming sometimes. She also said that she would be at his apartment at times, cooking for him and washing his laundry, and that they supposedly kissed. (And that she had seen him in his underwear before chile). But it didn't go further than that. They may have liked each other but it seems I guess that they didn't further continue the friendship or relationship. And honestly I've never really seen or heard Michael talk about her. She kept saying she wanted to marry him though....
Reports do say he was with Stephanie Mills. Basically, they were often together and "dating" but no label. To Stephanie they were lovers, to Michael it meant nothing. Basically, he never claimed her or considered it. Thus, Tatum being his first gf
Theres Many michaels.and he was seen public with some people that he wanted to be seen.and some friendships and romance he wanted to keep private.either cause he wanted to keep his personal Life private or because that person didnt match his King of pop public persona.he carefully crafted an image.Brooke was his PR date.doesnt mean he wasnt seeing other Girls in the back.see we didnt know kobe Bryant was his friend until he died.and so Many others.
Nunca le permitieron socializar. Desde niño le apartaron de sus iguales y no le permitieron ser niño. Creció en un mundo de cristal alejado del resto de seres humanos. Debió ser muy duro para él no saber relacionarse con los demás, crear relaciones más allá de la amistad, pudiendo disfrutar de su sexualidad.