Since recording this, two people have separately (and without being prompted) spoken to me about my photographic style...! Now I'm not sure what to think 😂 Recent photo books I've bought that I've been enjoying: Phil Penman - New York Street Diaries (geni.us/Kc52sZu) Fred Herzog - Modern Colour (geni.us/fmuUO) And yes, this was my second take as I didn't plug the mic in on the first take 🤦🏻♂
Let me be the third. I don't know jack about photography, but I do know styles, and I tells ya, you got a pretty consistent style. If I saw a bunch of photographs from different photographers, I'd be able to pick yours out in a lickety split 🙃
I hear couple of words recurring: 'style', 'cohesive', 'body of work' - maybe you just expect too much of yourself. I wanted to be a photographer and found out during the study that I did not have it in me (90% is organisation). Since then I'm just making photo's for myself. Finding your style is a bit easier if you know what you want to say. I like your photo's of the windmil and the industrial landscape. It's an angle that I like too. The human impact on the world.
"Maybe you just expect too much of yourself"..... Yep, you've nailed it. It's been an ongoing battle for some time now in all honesty, and I hadn't realised it had seeped into this area of my life as well. This is probably a major contributor to the feelings of burnout I've been having too. Thank you for what you've said, that was important to hear 🙏🏻
I'm lucky, I make a living as a programmer, so photography is a hobby; a very different type of creativity. If I might observe, photography might be harder for you due to it being so close to your day job. I don't know if it is possible, maybe separate the two? Completely different sets of kit for personal vs. professional? Never take what you use professionally out for your personal gig? Things we love/want to do should not be a struggle. To me, the photography is just fun. I truly hope you find the groove you're looking for. The image @ 6:41 is spectacular, BTW.
I think it is Brian, I can definitely see a link between when I started to take on paid work in photography and who my love for the hobby began to dwindle. I've mentioned separating my kit before actually, and I think that's job number one, plus making sure my work is only every video based (no photography) - that's as much as I can realistically do for now!! Thanks, I really appreciate it :)
Rick, I have spoken to a lot of influencers on RUclips and a lot of them do not get to make images as often as they would like they just get caught up in the business of being a social media influencer and get little time to make images. The secret to developing a style is to immerse yourself in a project and make lots of images and look for the mistakes that point to images that you love. Once you see them then go in those directions. I once interviewed PAUL GRAHAM and he said to me that every project he did he looked for the image that was the key to the way the project would work and then work from there. That makes sense to me as it allows for experimentation and learning from mistakes as those can be clues to new ways of seeing.
I think that a problem for almost every photographer. But I think it’s very interesting to watch your journey. I love landscape photography, but I also love everyday life and urban photography. So now I shoot everything I like, it’s for my self and the most important thing is that you enjoy your photography journey
This is a great video! Whilst watching I was wondering if it's not that you don't have a style... you certainly do, but possibly it's a similar style to others, e.g. Nigel. After all, you visit these tremendous locations at the same time as him... therefore you experience the same conditions, seasons, etc. It's not a bad place to be in my opinion, and I think your photos stand up on their own. If you take 20 photographers who have visited Luskentyre and compare their images, there will be a lot of overlap and similarities. I'm not sure I could necessarily pick out any photographer in particular because the landscape is really the star of the show. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Martin. Maybe that's it, maybe I feel that given its similarity to others, it's not 100% me.... Something to consider anyway. I appreciate your kind words, thanks!
"Style" is like going on a journey without a final destination. Your style will only developed over time. This will require patience, determination and the realisation that you are not in control. For your professional work you could focus on "consistency" within your work since this is what customers / clients expect, value and are paying for.
Thank you for sharing.. That feeling is gives you the freedom to find your style - also another way is to start a project of something close to you like your home town - ive been through this stage of not knowing what my style is I didn't worry about I embraced it
Thanks, that's a project I've had on my list for about a year actually.... with no reasonable excuse for not starting it! I think I know what to do....
Your message has struck a chord in me. Thank you for your honesty and insight. I'm guessing so many people feel like you (and I), and this is encouraging! I live in Ohio and am trying to accept that my location/environment still has something to offer photographically, but the struggle is real!!!
Thanks Aaron, I appreciate it. I think feeling like this can be quite a lonely experience, so knowing and sharing with others who are going through similar is definitely helpful! I know very little of Ohio I'm afraid (if it's a struggle to shoot there, then maybe that's why?!), but I guess it comes down to accepting the limitations, trying to not compare with what others are doing (as in people in incredible locations), and just altering expectations. Easier said than done, I know. I hope the struggle lessens anyway 🙏🏻
I grew up in Ohio and lived there part of my adult life as well and it can be challenging. However, just for some ideas, the small towns that dot Ohio are full of old buildings, old signs, there are numerous barns and lots of rural scenes. I found a few abandoned one room school houses and even covered bridges that were fun to shoot. There are also some amazing state parks, which are great for landscape as well as wildlife. Lake Erie, the Ohio River, lots of other scenic locations. Just throwing out some ideas for you, almost every place has something to offer photographically, you just have to search harder in some places.
Books are good and they are a part of my workflow. However, if I'm in a rut, which I was recently, what I've found is that action is the antidote. My suggestion is take a trip by yourself, even if it's only a few towns over. I know that I can take images, good ones, close to home, but for me, something special happens when I travel. That realization is what got me out of my recent rut.
That's a great idea actually, I love the sound of doing that! I've got a few weeks where that's not going to be possible, but I'll plan something in for later next month. Thanks!!
Good thoughtjful video again and sort of challenge a lot of people am sure struggle with. Your video work with Nigel is top notch, you can always tell when you are involved. Your images are very good give yourself more credit, do you have a style probably not but is that a big issue. I know i struggle with style i love landscape and wildlife but do i have a distinctive style no, but then i not too worried i focus on what i enjoy doing otherwise find i get hung up on style. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Bernard. I appreciate your kind words ☺️ that's what I've lost a bit of and need to get back, the enjoyment.... it's probably in part because I'm overthinking the other aspects!
Wow, love this new…”style” 😂 of video Rick! Feels heartfelt and genuine and appreciate the work that went into the introspection here. I’m looking forward to seeing what emerges from you Monday adventures and am confident that a style that resonates with your artist’s mind will be born eventually!
Thanks Moly - I'm excited about it too. Feels a lot more 'me' and hopefully I can put a bit more time into making these videos what I want them to be and express.
I'm looking forward to see you on this journey. Seeing you build yourself more on your photography and having a better connection to you photographs it be an inspiration to watch, but don't put yours under to much pressure as you could burn yourself out mentally.
Thanks Neil. I'll try not to... not something I've been great at previously(!!) but having digested the comments so far, I want to put my enjoyment above everything 👍🏻
Looking at the beautiful photos you included in the video, and taking them in the spur of the moment, I feel you might just be over thinking things a bit. I loved every one of them. Sometimes I think when you just relax you start to see more, and if your photos don’t look a certain style you’ve seen, well maybe that’s your style 😊I know I’m not making much sense, but the photos were beautiful
This video was very well done but it also made me sad. I realize I haven't walked in your shoes nor will I ever understand your life generally. However, from what you present, you have a great job, a dream job many would say, traveling and doing cinematography for a fellow RUclipsr, getting to go to amazing places and having a chance to point your camera at beautiful scenes. Your photography is solid, really nice images. You seem to have great gear. These are things most photographers go to their 9 to 5 jobs every day in order to have a chance to spend their weekends and maybe a couple of weeks a year doing. You live in that world. Yes, you're working while there, but you're there. Your portfolio contains images mine never will. The hard truth in this world is that very, very, very few photographers ever have any significant number of people care about their images, or even a single image. Everyone knows the image of the Afghan Girl. Can you name one other Steve McCurry image? If you're a working professional, having a style or vibe or look to your photos is important. Clients can look at a series of photographs and say I love this look, the colors, whatever, and you can then replicate that for them. If you're not or don't intend to be a working professional, I'm not sure why it's important at all. Just shoot what makes you happy. This is what this is about, capturing the world in a way that brings joy to you. If it happens to make others smile, bonus points. For most of us, no one else really cares. That shouldn't make you love photography any less, do it for your own happiness. Getting out, as you plan to do, and shooting what makes you happy is the best medicine.
Thanks, appreciate your response. I see that the on the surface portrayal probably comes across very differently to the internal battles I feel like I've faced... I'm yet to decide on whether or not it's a good idea to talk about that on YT or not!! The latter part of your email has made me think though. Maybe it's not as important as I'm making it out to be. First and foremost, it does need to be for my own happiness, you are correct. That's what I'll base things around I think rather than assuming that chasing certain things will lead to that happiness. Thanks 🙏🏻
I've only recently begun to think of it in this way and in terms of 'seasons' - you are completely right. I hope so too, it's either that or I become a landscape gardener or something!
Wow …thanks for sharing. I feel very similar and what I realize is: I don’t want a single style. The way my mind works I would quickly fall out of love with photography if I was doing only one style. A lot of my work looks similar, but I am trying new things and working to build more knowledge about different types of images. Getting out there is a big part of it. I am trying to get out more …but just don’t feel like I will find anything interesting some days. Your video encourages me to get out whether or not I find a good image …being out there is part of why I love photography.
Thanks Douglas. I think maybe that's it. I'm just doing landscapes and it doesn't seem as fun as it used to. I'll make sure that a big part of this new routine is doing different things 👍🏻
An interesting and open video Rick. Good on you for sharing. The work you do with Nigel is quality but appreciate how that can but your own portfolio on the back burner and maybe create frustration as you will be so close to shooting create images but can't because you are shooting for him. Good to have a plan and commit some time for your own work again and I hope it goes well.
@@RickBebbington Yeah not easy. Make the plan easy to stick to at the start with lots of small steps to build momentum, and overtime hopefully make the transformation. You may be a lot closer than you think you are to making it a reality again.
Just saw a RUclips site I think you'll like, Frames, features well known?? photographers with their narration of their work and what drives them. It gives me lots of ideas, except our weather isn't cooperating.
I think you have made the big decision and that is to go out every week without fail and take some pictures. I, throughout my career, and I'm 70 now have suffered from "imposter syndrome," although I doubt anybody else realised. This has become much more prevalent in my hobbies and I have found that making myself go out on a fixed day has helped enormously as I can't give myself an excuse and not go out. Please don't stop taking photos when you are out with Nigel, as the ones you have shown are superb. Looking forward to the next video.
Yep, I'm ready for this. I know some weeks something will happen and I won't make it, but as long as I keep going then I'll be a lot happier with the direction I am going. I too have suffered with the dreaded imposter syndrome, so it's encouraging to know that doing something similar helped you - thank you. I won't do - some exciting destinations coming very soon!! Thanks Chris.
Good thoughtful video Rick personally I go through phases I shoot full time for newspapers so subjects vary massively on my own time I mix things up I shoot anything I can I love street, protests, documentary sport and landscapes I love them all. I do find when I’m in a bit of a down headspace I go for landscapes they seem easier and tend to cheer me up, being in nature does that, I generally record a video for my channel which keeps my creativity flowing. My best advise is forget about finding a style just shoot what makes you happy. Cheers Paul. Liked n subbed.
Been following the channel for a while. I really appreciate the sincerity of your videos and the intention to 'let us in' on your journey and way of thinking. So thank you! Interesting discussion around styles, and how that's influenced by what you enjoy capturing (and what you're doing). I keep on thinking about about setting myself rules to ensure I get out with the camera at least once a week. But I find excuses not to commit! I look forward to seeing how that goes for you, as I really enjoy your photography. But it's probably more important that you do.
Thank you Paul! I'm a master of finding excuses. Weather is a particular favourite, and it's pretty easy to blame that in the North West of England!! There was a quote on Peter McKinnon's most recent video..... "The magic you are looking for lies in the work you are avoiding." I've a feeling that's going to live in my head for some time. Thanks for your comment anyway, it means a lot.
@RickBebbington that's a great quote .. yep. I hear you on the weather. The wife played a blinder when I use the weather for procrastination "but you upgraded so it was weather sealed!"
Love to see this introspection about where you're at, and why you've not been taking as many images as you feel you should. I'm there with my writing too - burned out by life, but also just exhausted in general and needing to look at WHY I am avoiding the words (and feeling like a fraud for talking about writing when right now the only writing I'm doing is journaling and planning). Looking forward to seeing where this takes you
Thanks Cassie, appreciate it! It's tough isn't it, I feel your pain. That's exactly it, looking for the WHY we aren't doing things just compounds the exhaustion, it feels like a question I've been trying to answer for so long.... Kinda wish I'd just put that energy into doing something 😂 at least I realise that now!!
Good thoughtful video Rick personally I go through phases I shoot full time for newspapers so subject vary massively on my own time I mix things up I shoot anything I can I love street protests documentary and landscapes I love them all I do find when I’m in a bit of a down headspace I go for landscapes they seem easier and tend to cheer me up I generally record a video for the channel which keeps my creativity flowing. I’m on another device at the mo so soon as I get back to the primary thing I’ll sub ya Chan keep em coming. My best advise is forget about finding a style just shoot what makes you happy. Cheers Paul
great video on multiple levels, first you should look at your video as a series of individual photographs. You often include people (Nigel) and man-made structures/influences which show a bit of your style. As you point out maybe this is more "work" than you like. 2. Try carrying your camera everywhere and take photos whether on the spur of the moment or planned and after a month/week/ or more look at what is catching your eye. 3. Others - Gary Gouge??? sp?? and his fine art style; Hugh Brownstien/stone "3 Blind Men and An Elephant", James Appleton, James Burns and Gareth Danks.
Based on what you expressed in terms of photography interests, I recommend you look at Edward Burtynsky's work. He is a Canadian photographer who take photos that comment on the human impact on the world. I saw his work at the Royal Ontario Museum and some of his pieces moved me to tears. I met him once over a decade ago, and I was such an awkward little dumpling, tripping over my words about how his work was inspiring, etc. I'm sure he forgot about the interaction and I don't remember anything he said to me, but he was such a lovely, zen, and grounded person.
A very moving video to which I’d like to respond. First, your images are much better than you give them credit for being. I don’t know how to suggest you learn to look at your images more “objectively”, but if you could do that, your satisfaction would increase dramatically. Also, style comes from the images you produce and you already have the roots of a terrific one; photographic style does not come from a person imagining and defining a style and then taking pictures to fit that definition. Your plan to shoot once a week is a good one but keep taking images whilst out with Nigel. Best of luck to you!
Thanks Stuart, that means a lot to me. I hope I've not come across as fishing for compliments as that's absolutely not what I wanted to do!! I think finding what triggers my satisfaction as you say is key, and I guess that will become more obvious as I go out more.
I can so relate to this, ive been there and are still there. Not sure whether my photographic life has come to an end. I believe that landscapes are the reasons I keep sane, and I hike almost every day. But the traditional landscape does not do it for me. I ask myself whether a beautifully printed image, even though painfully achieve, (temperature and up at the crack of dawn) would keep me interested beyond 5 minutes on my wall. And the answer is, many don't. I am wondering whether I should separate my experience of being in the wilderness from my creative arts and seek either another medium or a different type of photography. ONe book that inspired me has been More than a rock by Guy Tal, who convinced me that creativeness and real meaning comes from within and melding of these emotions with your medium. He also has some videos which explain his experiences in the southwest. He does not, however, give any indication as to how to tap into your own emotions and project them in an image. I am still stuggling with this. Please do let us know your creative jouney and if you have any succcess is busting out of your rut.
Life! Awesome! Beauty only exits because human beings intuit it. After a while your focus will narrow (I know that's a negative term, but I mean focus more sharply) on what's motivating you to take photos in the first place. The answer is not `photos.' The photo is the physical mean. The motivation is the spiritual mean. The source of the motivation is the destination and it's never a photo. Art is not the destination but the journey to it. And a journey, of itself, is meaningless if it goes no-where; it's just a dead end. You wont get answers to `why,' straight away. It comes slowly over time, 30 years and still counting for me. Don't fret about `the struggle.' The `struggle' IS the thing. If we don't struggle with life and its meaning we are already dead. The fact you have this struggle means you're alive so be of good cheer Rick because the struggle is worth it. You don't have to `win' anything but simply see a little more clearly as the struggle continues that the victory was always there.
Really enjoyed listening to this one quietly taking it all in. The unsociable time and effort in night life photography too I hope will interest you i love seeing those. Mali Davies does some great street life work reach out to him maybe? The video work can you simply treat as separate? So two business heads video and photo and I think it’s a good thing they (styles) don’t complement….. best of luck and we all look forward to the your “found” video at the end of the year ❤
Thanks Andy, I'll give Mali a shout!! Someone else mentioned separating my video work and the photography and I think that's definitely part of the puzzle. I look forward to that video too, I'm committed to it now!! Thanks again 👍🏻
When I'm at a loss what to take photos of, I dig out my Macro lenses and try to improve - another 20 years and I may even be good at it - which refreshes the attitude to 'normal' photos for me. I hope you can find a similar solution! (I think I have the benefit of having photography as a hobby too, rather than needing to be on-form as it is my income also)
You asked for other photographers to look at to help you out of a rut. Might I suggest Andy Mumford on his YT channel with the same name. UK photographer based in Lisbon. While he too is mostly a landscape photographer...he uses somewhat different vocabulary when speaking about images and experiences. He also seems to never take pix in the British Isles or at least does not show them on his channel. Hope this helps. Could perhaps suggest additional channels but then you would spend too much time watching others and less time out yourself.
Dear Rick, You seem a little bit depressed to me. You do not have to compare yourself with Nigel nor live up to him either. I think your images are really wonderful and shades of Mads Peter Iverson in them. You are a brilliant videographer and nothing to prove. Motivation is always an issue and what I have done is take on the 52Frames challenge , where every week there is a designated topic and you have to shoot for it. The themes are wide ranging and can be general or specific. It gets me thinking and trying all manner of things I would never have thought of before. Also, it is good to see what other people come up with. It is called "52 Frames" if you fancy it. You have all week and no pressures at all. If you try and stick to a Monday for You Tube's sake, I think you will find pressure there. Stick to what you love, play to your strengths and just be the one and only, beautiful, imperfect, unique Rick Bebbington and shoot whatever you damn well please.❤❤❤
Fair point, maybe something isn't quite right... I don't think I am comparing myself, just feeling like something is missing.... I appreciate your kind words about my work ☺️ I'll definitely have a look at 52 frames, thanks. I think I need some pressure, it's in my nature. I'll do nothing otherwise so I need to try something new. I'll see how it goes!! Thanks Chris, that means a lot!
Who are you trying to impress? Stop doing it, it's time for you to do it for yourself, photograph what you want, when you want and how you want! I wonder about some of the vloggers at times and who they are pitching their vlogs at, I can only assume it's at beginners or people who more interested in cameras and lenses than the finished image. There is an essay on line "Equivalence by Minor White" please give it a read it may direct you to better things. Learn to love your own work Rick.
Is developing a style more important than joyfully taking photographs? I don't know. I've been making videos for 4 years, but only started focusing on photography one year ago. I'm at the place where I want to explore and try all sorts of subjects. I've photographed the chipmunk in my yard and attended skijoring events to practice photographing horses pulling skiers at high speed. So much fun!!! Normally we make videos of traveling in our DIY camper van. We explore and take folks along with us. That has created an amazing opportunity to take photos every day, many opportunities to fail, and many opportunities to learn... and occasionally get a good photo. I wish you well on your journey. I believe you'll find your style over time. In the meantime, have fun doing it. I look forward to following your journey. BTW Do you follow Thomas Heaton? @ThomasHeatonPhoto It looks like he's having fun most of the time even when he's slogging through the mud. Cheers ~ Kristina
Thanks Kristina. That first point you make us something I’ve had in mind the later we weeks… it’s not, and I’ve realised that. The style will come from the time I put in, and that will only be enough if I’m enjoying what I’m doing. So I’m chasing the joy ☺️
Since recording this, two people have separately (and without being prompted) spoken to me about my photographic style...! Now I'm not sure what to think 😂
Recent photo books I've bought that I've been enjoying:
Phil Penman - New York Street Diaries (geni.us/Kc52sZu)
Fred Herzog - Modern Colour (geni.us/fmuUO)
And yes, this was my second take as I didn't plug the mic in on the first take 🤦🏻♂
Let me be the third. I don't know jack about photography, but I do know styles, and I tells ya, you got a pretty consistent style. If I saw a bunch of photographs from different photographers, I'd be able to pick yours out in a lickety split 🙃
I hear couple of words recurring: 'style', 'cohesive', 'body of work' - maybe you just expect too much of yourself. I wanted to be a photographer and found out during the study that I did not have it in me (90% is organisation). Since then I'm just making photo's for myself. Finding your style is a bit easier if you know what you want to say. I like your photo's of the windmil and the industrial landscape. It's an angle that I like too. The human impact on the world.
"Maybe you just expect too much of yourself"..... Yep, you've nailed it. It's been an ongoing battle for some time now in all honesty, and I hadn't realised it had seeped into this area of my life as well. This is probably a major contributor to the feelings of burnout I've been having too. Thank you for what you've said, that was important to hear 🙏🏻
I'm lucky, I make a living as a programmer, so photography is a hobby; a very different type of creativity. If I might observe, photography might be harder for you due to it being so close to your day job. I don't know if it is possible, maybe separate the two? Completely different sets of kit for personal vs. professional? Never take what you use professionally out for your personal gig? Things we love/want to do should not be a struggle. To me, the photography is just fun. I truly hope you find the groove you're looking for. The image @ 6:41 is spectacular, BTW.
I think it is Brian, I can definitely see a link between when I started to take on paid work in photography and who my love for the hobby began to dwindle. I've mentioned separating my kit before actually, and I think that's job number one, plus making sure my work is only every video based (no photography) - that's as much as I can realistically do for now!! Thanks, I really appreciate it :)
Rick, I have spoken to a lot of influencers on RUclips and a lot of them do not get to make images as often as they would like they just get caught up in the business of being a social media influencer and get little time to make images. The secret to developing a style is to immerse yourself in a project and make lots of images and look for the mistakes that point to images that you love. Once you see them then go in those directions. I once interviewed PAUL GRAHAM and he said to me that every project he did he looked for the image that was the key to the way the project would work and then work from there. That makes sense to me as it allows for experimentation and learning from mistakes as those can be clues to new ways of seeing.
I think that a problem for almost every photographer. But I think it’s very interesting to watch your journey.
I love landscape photography, but I also love everyday life and urban photography. So now I shoot everything I like, it’s for my self and the most important thing is that you enjoy your photography journey
You put into words what so many of us feel. Thank you for what you do.
This is a great video! Whilst watching I was wondering if it's not that you don't have a style... you certainly do, but possibly it's a similar style to others, e.g. Nigel. After all, you visit these tremendous locations at the same time as him... therefore you experience the same conditions, seasons, etc. It's not a bad place to be in my opinion, and I think your photos stand up on their own. If you take 20 photographers who have visited Luskentyre and compare their images, there will be a lot of overlap and similarities. I'm not sure I could necessarily pick out any photographer in particular because the landscape is really the star of the show. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Martin. Maybe that's it, maybe I feel that given its similarity to others, it's not 100% me.... Something to consider anyway. I appreciate your kind words, thanks!
"Style" is like going on a journey without a final destination. Your style will only developed over time. This will require patience, determination and the realisation that you are not in control.
For your professional work you could focus on "consistency" within your work since this is what customers / clients expect, value and are paying for.
Thank you for sharing.. That feeling is gives you the freedom to find your style - also another way is to start a project of something close to you like your home town - ive been through this stage of not knowing what my style is I didn't worry about I embraced it
Thanks, that's a project I've had on my list for about a year actually.... with no reasonable excuse for not starting it! I think I know what to do....
Your message has struck a chord in me. Thank you for your honesty and insight. I'm guessing so many people feel like you (and I), and this is encouraging!
I live in Ohio and am trying to accept that my location/environment still has something to offer photographically, but the struggle is real!!!
Thanks Aaron, I appreciate it. I think feeling like this can be quite a lonely experience, so knowing and sharing with others who are going through similar is definitely helpful!
I know very little of Ohio I'm afraid (if it's a struggle to shoot there, then maybe that's why?!), but I guess it comes down to accepting the limitations, trying to not compare with what others are doing (as in people in incredible locations), and just altering expectations. Easier said than done, I know. I hope the struggle lessens anyway 🙏🏻
I grew up in Ohio and lived there part of my adult life as well and it can be challenging. However, just for some ideas, the small towns that dot Ohio are full of old buildings, old signs, there are numerous barns and lots of rural scenes. I found a few abandoned one room school houses and even covered bridges that were fun to shoot. There are also some amazing state parks, which are great for landscape as well as wildlife. Lake Erie, the Ohio River, lots of other scenic locations. Just throwing out some ideas for you, almost every place has something to offer photographically, you just have to search harder in some places.
Books are good and they are a part of my workflow. However, if I'm in a rut, which I was recently, what I've found is that action is the antidote. My suggestion is take a trip by yourself, even if it's only a few towns over. I know that I can take images, good ones, close to home, but for me, something special happens when I travel. That realization is what got me out of my recent rut.
That's a great idea actually, I love the sound of doing that! I've got a few weeks where that's not going to be possible, but I'll plan something in for later next month. Thanks!!
All the best going forward Rick. 😀👍🏻
Cheers Jon!
Good thoughtjful video again and sort of challenge a lot of people am sure struggle with. Your video work with Nigel is top notch, you can always tell when you are involved. Your images are very good give yourself more credit, do you have a style probably not but is that a big issue. I know i struggle with style i love landscape and wildlife but do i have a distinctive style no, but then i not too worried i focus on what i enjoy doing otherwise find i get hung up on style.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks Bernard. I appreciate your kind words ☺️ that's what I've lost a bit of and need to get back, the enjoyment.... it's probably in part because I'm overthinking the other aspects!
Wow, love this new…”style” 😂 of video Rick! Feels heartfelt and genuine and appreciate the work that went into the introspection here. I’m looking forward to seeing what emerges from you Monday adventures and am confident that a style that resonates with your artist’s mind will be born eventually!
Thanks Moly - I'm excited about it too. Feels a lot more 'me' and hopefully I can put a bit more time into making these videos what I want them to be and express.
I'm looking forward to see you on this journey. Seeing you build yourself more on your photography and having a better connection to you photographs it be an inspiration to watch, but don't put yours under to much pressure as you could burn yourself out mentally.
Thanks Neil. I'll try not to... not something I've been great at previously(!!) but having digested the comments so far, I want to put my enjoyment above everything 👍🏻
Looking at the beautiful photos you included in the video, and taking them in the spur of the moment, I feel you might just be over thinking things a bit. I loved every one of them. Sometimes I think when you just relax you start to see more, and if your photos don’t look a certain style you’ve seen, well maybe that’s your style 😊I know I’m not making much sense, but the photos were beautiful
This video was very well done but it also made me sad. I realize I haven't walked in your shoes nor will I ever understand your life generally. However, from what you present, you have a great job, a dream job many would say, traveling and doing cinematography for a fellow RUclipsr, getting to go to amazing places and having a chance to point your camera at beautiful scenes. Your photography is solid, really nice images. You seem to have great gear. These are things most photographers go to their 9 to 5 jobs every day in order to have a chance to spend their weekends and maybe a couple of weeks a year doing. You live in that world. Yes, you're working while there, but you're there. Your portfolio contains images mine never will. The hard truth in this world is that very, very, very few photographers ever have any significant number of people care about their images, or even a single image. Everyone knows the image of the Afghan Girl. Can you name one other Steve McCurry image? If you're a working professional, having a style or vibe or look to your photos is important. Clients can look at a series of photographs and say I love this look, the colors, whatever, and you can then replicate that for them. If you're not or don't intend to be a working professional, I'm not sure why it's important at all. Just shoot what makes you happy. This is what this is about, capturing the world in a way that brings joy to you. If it happens to make others smile, bonus points. For most of us, no one else really cares. That shouldn't make you love photography any less, do it for your own happiness. Getting out, as you plan to do, and shooting what makes you happy is the best medicine.
Thanks, appreciate your response. I see that the on the surface portrayal probably comes across very differently to the internal battles I feel like I've faced... I'm yet to decide on whether or not it's a good idea to talk about that on YT or not!!
The latter part of your email has made me think though. Maybe it's not as important as I'm making it out to be. First and foremost, it does need to be for my own happiness, you are correct. That's what I'll base things around I think rather than assuming that chasing certain things will lead to that happiness. Thanks 🙏🏻
Life is cyclical as is photography and can come in waves of good and bad! This I feel will be a good wave
I've only recently begun to think of it in this way and in terms of 'seasons' - you are completely right. I hope so too, it's either that or I become a landscape gardener or something!
Wow …thanks for sharing. I feel very similar and what I realize is: I don’t want a single style. The way my mind works I would quickly fall out of love with photography if I was doing only one style. A lot of my work looks similar, but I am trying new things and working to build more knowledge about different types of images. Getting out there is a big part of it. I am trying to get out more …but just don’t feel like I will find anything interesting some days. Your video encourages me to get out whether or not I find a good image …being out there is part of why I love photography.
Thanks Douglas. I think maybe that's it. I'm just doing landscapes and it doesn't seem as fun as it used to. I'll make sure that a big part of this new routine is doing different things 👍🏻
An interesting and open video Rick. Good on you for sharing. The work you do with Nigel is quality but appreciate how that can but your own portfolio on the back burner and maybe create frustration as you will be so close to shooting create images but can't because you are shooting for him.
Good to have a plan and commit some time for your own work again and I hope it goes well.
Thanks Andrew! Just need to stick to the plan now, easier said than done 😬😂
@@RickBebbington Yeah not easy. Make the plan easy to stick to at the start with lots of small steps to build momentum, and overtime hopefully make the transformation. You may be a lot closer than you think you are to making it a reality again.
Jay Maisel told me “frustration comes from not shooting every day”.
I think Jay Maisel is onto something there... Too much time sat at a desk.
Just saw a RUclips site I think you'll like, Frames, features well known?? photographers with their narration of their work and what drives them. It gives me lots of ideas, except our weather isn't cooperating.
Thanks, I'll take a look!
I love your vulnerability. Get up early, get outside, be simply curious, the pictures take themselves.
I think you have made the big decision and that is to go out every week without fail and take some pictures.
I, throughout my career, and I'm 70 now have suffered from "imposter syndrome," although I doubt anybody else realised. This has become much more prevalent in my hobbies and I have found that making myself go out on a fixed day has helped enormously as I can't give myself an excuse and not go out.
Please don't stop taking photos when you are out with Nigel, as the ones you have shown are superb.
Looking forward to the next video.
Yep, I'm ready for this. I know some weeks something will happen and I won't make it, but as long as I keep going then I'll be a lot happier with the direction I am going.
I too have suffered with the dreaded imposter syndrome, so it's encouraging to know that doing something similar helped you - thank you.
I won't do - some exciting destinations coming very soon!!
Thanks Chris.
Good thoughtful video Rick personally I go through phases I shoot full time for newspapers so subjects vary massively on my own time I mix things up I shoot anything I can I love street, protests, documentary sport and landscapes I love them all. I do find when I’m in a bit of a down headspace I go for landscapes they seem easier and tend to cheer me up, being in nature does that, I generally record a video for my channel which keeps my creativity flowing. My best advise is forget about finding a style just shoot what makes you happy. Cheers Paul. Liked n subbed.
Thanks Paul. Shoot what makes you happy keeps coming back.... I think I may just be overthinking it all 😅
haha that's where being a bit thick works well for me I'm incapable of over thinking. @@RickBebbington
Been following the channel for a while. I really appreciate the sincerity of your videos and the intention to 'let us in' on your journey and way of thinking. So thank you!
Interesting discussion around styles, and how that's influenced by what you enjoy capturing (and what you're doing). I keep on thinking about about setting myself rules to ensure I get out with the camera at least once a week. But I find excuses not to commit! I look forward to seeing how that goes for you, as I really enjoy your photography. But it's probably more important that you do.
Thank you Paul!
I'm a master of finding excuses. Weather is a particular favourite, and it's pretty easy to blame that in the North West of England!! There was a quote on Peter McKinnon's most recent video..... "The magic you are looking for lies in the work you are avoiding." I've a feeling that's going to live in my head for some time.
Thanks for your comment anyway, it means a lot.
@RickBebbington that's a great quote .. yep. I hear you on the weather. The wife played a blinder when I use the weather for procrastination "but you upgraded so it was weather sealed!"
An interesting video, I’m in the same boat. I love cities but also love landscapes. Finding a way to mix both would be awesome.
Thanks. I'll document what (if anything) I come up with!!
Love to see this introspection about where you're at, and why you've not been taking as many images as you feel you should. I'm there with my writing too - burned out by life, but also just exhausted in general and needing to look at WHY I am avoiding the words (and feeling like a fraud for talking about writing when right now the only writing I'm doing is journaling and planning).
Looking forward to seeing where this takes you
Thanks Cassie, appreciate it! It's tough isn't it, I feel your pain. That's exactly it, looking for the WHY we aren't doing things just compounds the exhaustion, it feels like a question I've been trying to answer for so long.... Kinda wish I'd just put that energy into doing something 😂 at least I realise that now!!
Good thoughtful video Rick personally I go through phases I shoot full time for newspapers so subject vary massively on my own time I mix things up I shoot anything I can I love street protests documentary and landscapes I love them all I do find when I’m in a bit of a down headspace I go for landscapes they seem easier and tend to cheer me up I generally record a video for the channel which keeps my creativity flowing. I’m on another device at the mo so soon as I get back to the primary thing I’ll sub ya Chan keep em coming. My best advise is forget about finding a style just shoot what makes you happy. Cheers Paul
Photography is fun. Never loose feeling the magic of pressing a button that generates an image.
Yep, that's what I need to get back to.
great video on multiple levels, first you should look at your video as a series of individual photographs. You often include people (Nigel) and man-made structures/influences which show a bit of your style. As you point out maybe this is more "work" than you like. 2. Try carrying your camera everywhere and take photos whether on the spur of the moment or planned and after a month/week/ or more look at what is catching your eye. 3. Others - Gary Gouge??? sp?? and his fine art style; Hugh Brownstien/stone "3 Blind Men and An Elephant", James Appleton, James Burns and Gareth Danks.
Thanks Pete, that's helpful :) I'll be sure to check them out!
Based on what you expressed in terms of photography interests, I recommend you look at Edward Burtynsky's work. He is a Canadian photographer who take photos that comment on the human impact on the world. I saw his work at the Royal Ontario Museum and some of his pieces moved me to tears. I met him once over a decade ago, and I was such an awkward little dumpling, tripping over my words about how his work was inspiring, etc. I'm sure he forgot about the interaction and I don't remember anything he said to me, but he was such a lovely, zen, and grounded person.
Thanks, I'll take a look. I think I'd probably be the same if I met someone I looked up to like that 😂
A very moving video to which I’d like to respond. First, your images are much better than you give them credit for being. I don’t know how to suggest you learn to look at your images more “objectively”, but if you could do that, your satisfaction would increase dramatically. Also, style comes from the images you produce and you already have the roots of a terrific one; photographic style does not come from a person imagining and defining a style and then taking pictures to fit that definition. Your plan to shoot once a week is a good one but keep taking images whilst out with Nigel. Best of luck to you!
Thanks Stuart, that means a lot to me. I hope I've not come across as fishing for compliments as that's absolutely not what I wanted to do!! I think finding what triggers my satisfaction as you say is key, and I guess that will become more obvious as I go out more.
I can so relate to this, ive been there and are still there. Not sure whether my photographic life has come to an end. I believe that landscapes are the reasons I keep sane, and I hike almost every day. But the traditional landscape does not do it for me. I ask myself whether a beautifully printed image, even though painfully achieve, (temperature and up at the crack of dawn) would keep me interested beyond 5 minutes on my wall. And the answer is, many don't. I am wondering whether I should separate my experience of being in the wilderness from my creative arts and seek either another medium or a different type of photography. ONe book that inspired me has been More than a rock by Guy Tal, who convinced me that creativeness and real meaning comes from within and melding of these emotions with your medium. He also has some videos which explain his experiences in the southwest. He does not, however, give any indication as to how to tap into your own emotions and project them in an image. I am still stuggling with this. Please do let us know your creative jouney and if you have any succcess is busting out of your rut.
Life! Awesome! Beauty only exits because human beings intuit it. After a while your focus will narrow (I know that's a negative term, but I mean focus more sharply) on what's motivating you to take photos in the first place. The answer is not `photos.' The photo is the physical mean. The motivation is the spiritual mean. The source of the motivation is the destination and it's never a photo. Art is not the destination but the journey to it. And a journey, of itself, is meaningless if it goes no-where; it's just a dead end.
You wont get answers to `why,' straight away. It comes slowly over time, 30 years and still counting for me.
Don't fret about `the struggle.' The `struggle' IS the thing. If we don't struggle with life and its meaning we are already dead. The fact you have this struggle means you're alive so be of good cheer Rick because the struggle is worth it. You don't have to `win' anything but simply see a little more clearly as the struggle continues that the victory was always there.
Tony, thank you for this. I think this is something I need to read and remind myself of everyday. I appreciate you posting it 🙏🏻
Great thoughts!!!
Really enjoyed listening to this one quietly taking it all in. The unsociable time and effort in night life photography too I hope will interest you i love seeing those. Mali Davies does some great street life work reach out to him maybe? The video work can you simply treat as separate? So two business heads video and photo and I think it’s a good thing they (styles) don’t complement….. best of luck and we all look forward to the your “found” video at the end of the year ❤
Thanks Andy, I'll give Mali a shout!! Someone else mentioned separating my video work and the photography and I think that's definitely part of the puzzle. I look forward to that video too, I'm committed to it now!! Thanks again 👍🏻
When I'm at a loss what to take photos of, I dig out my Macro lenses and try to improve - another 20 years and I may even be good at it - which refreshes the attitude to 'normal' photos for me. I hope you can find a similar solution! (I think I have the benefit of having photography as a hobby too, rather than needing to be on-form as it is my income also)
I’ve changed my mindset of what I’m willing to shoot recently, and that’s been really helpful. I talked about it in my last vid 👍🏻
@@RickBebbington Typically, I'd watched that one after watching this - I'm looking forward to seeing further videos from you on your journey.
Thank you
You asked for other photographers to look at to help you out of a rut. Might I suggest Andy Mumford on his YT channel with the same name. UK photographer based in Lisbon. While he too is mostly a landscape photographer...he uses somewhat different vocabulary when speaking about images and experiences. He also seems to never take pix in the British Isles or at least does not show them on his channel. Hope this helps. Could perhaps suggest additional channels but then you would spend too much time watching others and less time out yourself.
Making plans for Nigel. That's a song.
In actual fact, it takes about three or four years to develop a style and refine it, and a lifetime trying to change your style.
Dear Rick, You seem a little bit depressed to me. You do not have to compare yourself with Nigel nor live up to him either. I think your images are really wonderful and shades of Mads Peter Iverson in them. You are a brilliant videographer and nothing to prove.
Motivation is always an issue and what I have done is take on the 52Frames challenge , where every week there is a designated topic and you have to shoot for it. The themes are wide ranging and can be general or specific. It gets me thinking and trying all manner of things I would never have thought of before. Also, it is good to see what other people come up with. It is called "52 Frames" if you fancy it. You have all week and no pressures at all.
If you try and stick to a Monday for You Tube's sake, I think you will find pressure there.
Stick to what you love, play to your strengths and just be the one and only, beautiful, imperfect, unique Rick Bebbington and shoot whatever you damn well please.❤❤❤
Fair point, maybe something isn't quite right... I don't think I am comparing myself, just feeling like something is missing.... I appreciate your kind words about my work ☺️ I'll definitely have a look at 52 frames, thanks.
I think I need some pressure, it's in my nature. I'll do nothing otherwise so I need to try something new. I'll see how it goes!! Thanks Chris, that means a lot!
Who are you trying to impress? Stop doing it, it's time for you to do it for yourself, photograph what you want, when you want and how you want! I wonder about some of the vloggers at times and who they are pitching their vlogs at, I can only assume it's at beginners or people who more interested in cameras and lenses than the finished image. There is an essay on line "Equivalence by Minor White" please give it a read it may direct you to better things. Learn to love your own work Rick.
Thanks Iain, that's given me a lot to think about. I'll have a look at that essay 👍🏻
Just take the bloody pictures....stop over thinking.....
Is developing a style more important than joyfully taking photographs?
I don't know.
I've been making videos for 4 years, but only started focusing on photography one year ago. I'm at the place where I want to explore and try all sorts of subjects. I've photographed the chipmunk in my yard and attended skijoring events to practice photographing horses pulling skiers at high speed. So much fun!!!
Normally we make videos of traveling in our DIY camper van. We explore and take folks along with us. That has created an amazing opportunity to take photos every day, many opportunities to fail, and many opportunities to learn... and occasionally get a good photo.
I wish you well on your journey. I believe you'll find your style over time. In the meantime, have fun doing it. I look forward to following your journey.
BTW Do you follow Thomas Heaton? @ThomasHeatonPhoto It looks like he's having fun most of the time even when he's slogging through the mud.
Cheers ~ Kristina
Thanks Kristina. That first point you make us something I’ve had in mind the later we weeks… it’s not, and I’ve realised that. The style will come from the time I put in, and that will only be enough if I’m enjoying what I’m doing. So I’m chasing the joy ☺️