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I really recommend the channel 'not just bikes' to get to learn the how and why of Dutch roads and traffic rules. Lots of comparisons with Northern American roads and rules. (also about the wide roads that really dont solve the traffic problem) It really made me understand and appreciate Dutch traffic and other things I took for granted but now see how much thought was put in it.
I totally agree. The guy from that channel actually understands how roads and traveling works over here and the reasoning behind it. He explains exactly why the North American road system sucks and why the Dutch system is so much better.
In the Netherlands I could drive from anywhere to anywhere without any issue. In the USA I need the GPS because when you’re not on a main road it’s hard to find the street signs. Almost nowhere a direction is given to the next big city, they expect you to know which cities you need to cross to get to that next big city. If you already get a direction, you can not calculate the remaining time because no remaining distance is given. Stop signs on every street, traffic lights that just change every few minutes and hardly react to the amount of traffic. Speed signs that sometimes are covered by overgrown trees or bushes and you cant tell the speed any other way because a 25mph road is exactly the same as a 55mph road. 90% Of traffic speeds by at least 10mph… I prefer the Dutch traffic.
If the narrow roads with bike lanes on the side feel narrow then they are doing the job we design them that way on purpose. It means that you have t be attentive and can't go this is my lane i can drive 85 km here when and how i want!. Sharing is caring people say and it's practiced on these roads.
Checking the blindspot by look over your shoulder? Yes, I absolutely learned that in the Netherlands! Most things "lane" related annoy me as a Dutchie just as much as it does you. So your reaction is pretty Dutch 🤣😉 Turn right on red isn't done here, that's because of the bicycles! Dan is right on the right 😂
You always look over your shoulder. That is what you get tought. Makes no sense your fellow drivers find it strange, because that is what you should do and everybody I know does it.
I got my drivers license here in Germany and it is mandatory to check your blind spots by turning your head and looking. If you forget to do it during the test they will fail you. Turning right on red would be practical but considering that the Netherlands and Germany as well have a lot of bikes and pedestrians its an higher risk of hitting someone crossing the street. And I have noticed here in Germany on streets were there are no crosswalks or bike lanes crossing that street we get the green arrow pointing to the right a lot more nowadays, allowing the cars that want to go right to go even on red.
Yes, that is the main reason. In Europe in general, but the Netherlands specifically, you have a lot more pedestrians and cyclists and they want to cross streets too.
@@TheSeNaBi Yes you do. You forget to do it once during the exam and you MIGHT still pass. Second time you forget the examiner will just go "okay I've seen what I need to see".
"The green arrow" is often attached at intersections where almost every traffic light phase is switched separately and pedestrians / cyclists can only cross the street late when it is "green" without using an extra traffic light with a turning arrow for cars.
Drivers feeling scared on narrow roads: that is exactly the purpose of those roads. Careful / scared drivers kill less people. Those smaller rural roads used to be notorious killing fields with cars racing along at 80 or 100 km/h who are suddenly surprised by hikers, bikers, tractors, horses or even a herd of sheep on the road. So now they are designed to make drivers scared instead of the other people using them.
One thing you didn't mention is "the Dutch Reach" when opening your car door. Now being taught to new drivers in the UK. This involves opening your door with the hand furthest from the door so that you remember to look back and make sure you are not opening your door into the path of a cyclist.
It’s so funny to hear someone complaining about the way Dutch traffic works, while traffic in the USA is sooooo bad. In the Netherlands you generally have to wait until the traffic from the other side is done. That is noticed by the traffic infrastructure immediately and turns the light to red and yours to green. In the USA the “right on red” is done in a lot of states since 1973 because of the oil crisis. They should have just implemented a better infrastructure so nobody has to wait for minutes, while there is no traffic coming from other crossing directions. I have to drive 35 miles (56 km) to work. It’s mostly a 55 mph road. The average speed is a lot less because there are 36 traffic lights. Some are green when there is no traffic, while others are waiting for minutes on the crossroads. Then when you’re close it turns to red. With the proper infrastructure there would be so much more savings on gas than just being able to turn on red. The same can be said about a stop sign on every street. There are so many that 95% of traffic doesn’t fully stop at the stop sign but rolls or drive through it. The stop sign is just a measure which can’t explain the guilty one, when there is a collision without witnesses, it’s your word against theirs. When you must yield for traffic from the right it’s simple and clear: the car from the left is wrong in case of a collision. Most drivers in the USA are bad drivers. They don’t give a dam* because the chance of getting caught is too slim. Keep right and only pass on the left? Over half the cars just keep driving left. Passing on the right is not allowed but due to lots and lots of drivers staying in the left lane, lots and lots of drivers pass on the right as well. Stop on red and on yellow if you can? Nope, most add more speed when the lights are turning yellow because they stay yellow for about 4 seconds and so there’s plenty of time to speed through it. Don’t make it at yellow? Then just speed through the just turned red light! I see this multiple times daily. Speed limit? Not really, the average American drives 10 to 15 mph faster, even with a speed limit of just 25 mph. But hey, that’s what you get when you make everyone so dependent on cars that it’s very easy to pass the exam. You can just learn in your won car with someone who has a license and drives for at least two years. Great teachers! NOT. I live in New Jersey where the chance of getting killed in a car accident is over 800% of that in the Netherlands. It’s for a reason. Drivers drive unsafe, roads are unsafe, drivers license are very easy obtainable, traffic rules are not enforced enough, and so on…
Several states, such as Missouri, had right turn on red before 1973. DC didn't have it until fairly recently and is considering doing away with it. There is also left turn on red, when both streets are one-way streets.
I agree completely about street signs, on buildings and only on one side. If you come from the 'wrong' direction you won't be able to see the sign at all.
That was a really good list of reason as to why driving in the US is a lot less safe then in EU :D Just about every one of them have been proven to lower safety. That said, you might want to take a look at "NotJustBikes" here on youtube, he is from Canada and also live in the Nederland and talk about urban planning and why traffic/etc is the way it is in the Nederland.
Safe!!! I wouldn't cycling in that lane showed in the video which is next to a car lane like that in NL. If really concerning about the safety 4 both cyclists and car drivers why not build /have a dividers or barrel in between -stupid ! And to @JoviesHome who complain about driving in narrow and next to bicyclist gie a "love" to above seem odd. I can tell that you scare of Dutch being/feel defend. lol.What a kiss ass.
Going slow in busy bike area's is intended and build into the road design. For all you foreign viewers, go and binge watch "not just bikes" and you will get it!
For biking in the Netherlands, see channel Not just bikes. The streets are narrow with a purpose; it’s to slow down car traffic where necessary. Overtaking a car, they learned it differently to what they’re doing. After overtaking you only go to the right as the whole car you overtook is visible in the rear view mirror. They learned to check over their shoulder before changing lanes.
I find the "right turn on red" in the US so weird. Everything is my body is just screaming not to drive through a red light. Why don't they just change the trafficlight with a green arrow to the right or something? It is so confusing. The "right of way" rule in NL is mostly to slow down traffic. If straight ahead never needs to stop you have a way bigger risk of people speeding, which causes unsafe situations especially for other road users (pedestrians/cyclists).
You aren't required to turn on red. It is your decision, when feel it is safe to turn and if that is to wait for the green light, that's fine. There is also left turn turn on red. This requires that both streets are one-way streets. Turning on red, requires stopping before turning.
@@jimjungle1397 I know, but when I don't I get people honking behind me. It just a weird concept to me. If you want people to drive through it (or give them the option to), why not make the light green or orange?
@@Nienke131 In most places in America it is illegal to honk a horn, unless it is an emergency, such as to avoid an accident. I don't enter intersections, especially with a red light, because somebody is annoyed and illegally horks their horn. Here in DC 99 percent of the intersections have no turn on red signs. There is one I know that doesn't have a sign posted, but wait for the green light, because there are some many traffic cameras. DC prohibited turning on red, unless there was a sign allowing it, for many years, but decided to allow it not long ago, because so many people here are from out of town. Now there are signs at every intersection saying no turn on red. Right now they are debating returning to doing away with turning on red, for city safety.
You don't pass on the right. The only time I ever pass on the right is when there is a traffic jam or traffic is slowed down and left lane is not moving as fast as right. Under normal driving conditions it is far safer to have a rule which restricts passing on the left only. Also part of this is that you should be moving to the right if the lane to your right becomes free. This helps for traffic to move better. Having driven in the States for 20 years of my life where people travel at any speed in any lane, having these rules here in NL (here for now 30) makes driving decisions much easier and safer.
This is the textbook theory yes. But in reality? If I'm driving in the right lane and there's plenty of room in front of me? I'm gonna stay in that right lane. I'm not gonna move two lanes left, overtake a slow car in the middle and move two lanes to the right again. I will keep an eye on that car the whole time, to check of they are moving to the right but I usually drive around the speed limit, a bit faster of I'm overtraking to the left, so if I can pass you on the right? You're not paying attention.
@@gert-janvanderlee5307 En toch is deze methode fout. Rechts inhalen mag alleen wanneer de weggebruiker heeft aangegeven links voor te sorteren. De plek op de weg is steeds zo rechts mogelijk. Dat er mensen zijn die zich daar niet aan houden, is vervelend, maar rechtvaardigt niet dat je ze rechts mag inhalen. Zo simpel is het.
@@donarnoldus7884 Volgens mij zei ik dat ook. Maar van rijstrook wisselen is ook nooit zonder risico. Dus blijf ik liever rechts rijden en houd ik die ene auto goed in de gaten dan 4x van rijstrook te wisselen.
@@gert-janvanderlee5307 Ik snap het wel, maar het blijft fout. Op de weg tussen Utrecht en Amsterdam stapelen dit soort fouten zich op. Je moet ogen van voren en van achteren hebben en iedereen doet maar wat hij/zij goeddunkt. Het komt de verkeersveiligheid niet ten goede
About the overtaking and looking over your shoulder. I am a driving instructor (I even teached our queen to drive on the truck): the way you describe is not the way people are being teached to drive. You have to wait untill you see the car you are overtaking in your inside mirror. Then you check the outside mirror and your shoulder. Then blink and turn to the right.
Dutch people just a few days ago nearly destroyed downtown Rotterdam because they don’t like something. So you are definitely allowed to say some negative stuff! Those narrow streets aren’t divided up in a part for cars and a part for bikes. Those red parts with the bashed line are “bike suggestion lanes.” It’s a shared space and the whole idea is that you slow down and carefully pass cyclists. So you’re actually doing a good job if you slow down! So we’ll done! “Keep your lane” has been proven to cause more accidents than overtaking on the left. Staying in the left lane is also illegal here and always in the top 3 of the most annoying things. The police use that list to see what they should look out for extra. You’re supposed to do the shoulder check. You will fail your exam if you don’t do a shoulder check. So people who get angry at you for doing it should turn their license in😂 When the lanes get closed, it’s because of safety. The government chooses safety over wait time. I actually think it’s better. “Turn on red” has also been proven to cause a lot of extra accidents in the US. Which is why more and more states where it’s legal are looking into making it illegal. I’m not sure if any actually done that yet. The right of way thing is this way because it’s simpler. You can’t always see if someone is going to make a turn or go straight. So this way, it’s just always clear. Someone coming from the right? They have the right of way.
Hi. I am a driving instructor with over 34 years experiance. Worked lot of years at the a.n.w.b. Thing we teach people to view their blind spot but Also teach the that during looking in your blind blind spot your shoulders should not move because of two reasons. When you move your shoulders you also unintensionaly
Turn your steering wheel. Secconds reading is that if you look to deel info the blind spot you losse contact with whats happening in front of you like a cat that starts to brake and in you perivial sights you would miss the brakel lights of the car in front. When the mirrors are set correctly than a to deep look over your shoulders isnt nessesary. Its also in the drivers procedure the CBR uses during their test. Turning right through red light is something i learned fast while i was in the States lol. Cutting you off like you dircribed isnt normal and that's something you only see a lot in the bigger citys. Where i live here in Friesland you dont see that as much and the driving procedure also wants you to wat until you see the car you overtake in your insider mirror. Soms people make the mistake is shiftng back to right if they see you in the right mirror, wich causses to cut you off. Did a lot of advanced driving courses and thing that i experianced a lot was that a lot of people dont set their mirrors right and they dont know exactly were the blind spot is. And wich mirror to use while overtaking. Correct viewing techniques is Essentials. Love your blogg by the way. Love to help you out if you want more advice about anything concerning traffic.
Reclame vind ik oervervelend, je komt bovendien bijzonder hebberig over. Een Vlog maak je omdat je het leuk vindt. Je moet met je auto helemaal niet meer in een binnenstad komen maar ook met de fiets of het goede openbaar vervoer gaan. (neem de fiets, dan gebeurt je niets) - Wel goed dat je voorzichtig rijdt - Ga te paard als Sinterklaas dan ben je het straatraadsel te baas! Achterom kijken tijdens het rijden is simpelweg verboden omdat je niet ziet wat er voor je gebeurt en veel mensen hun stuur een beetje meedraaien. Als je je punt hebt gemaakt, vertel je het vaak nog 3x, we snappen het na 1x ook wel, hoor.
We are trained to look over our shoulder. If you don’t you will fail the exam. I don’t know who you drive with but its weird you get commented on that. I often look over my shoulder, especially on the right. Please do not overtake on the right. Ever. Just move two lanes. Red is stop, dont go. Pretty easy to remember ;) We dont use stop signs as much as they have shown to not work or provide false sense of security. We have right of way from the right. You don’t have to remember who came first, person right of you goes first. Easy. Signs always superceed that. If you are on a ‘voorrangsweg’ you have the priority over right.
I made this video based on my observations of not only how people drive around me but how they are with other drivers as well. I’m just making comments about what I’m seeing. Just because I say things in this video doesn’t mean I do them. I do follow the rules. I don’t have to like it to do it. I don’t have to find it easy or simple or easy to get used to. I’m just making commentary about what I observe.
0. it's ok to criticize, your one of us now ( one of us, one of us, ... ) 1. the aim of Dutch traffic is "slow down and pay attention". narrow roads "feel" dangerous, that is on purpose, because you will automatically "slow down and pay attention" without any sign forcing you too. it is kind of brilliant 2. street signs is really a problem, I was lost a while ago and it took me 15 min to find a street sign and of course with numbered streets it's much easier to find your way 4. it is illegal to overtake on the right side. you have to allow for the car on the left to overtake you. it's to prevent a situation where the right car doesn't allow the left car to overtake, it could cause accidents especially when you're on a normal road with traffic coming from the opposite side 5. yes, looking over your shoulder is part of the driver test, and a whole ( big ) car or bicycle can disappear in your blind spot , so you should definitely check, especially on roundabouts 7. right turns on red are very, very, very dangerous especially for bicycles and pedestrians 8. having priority going straight over turning only applies when you're on the same road, where the opposing car wants to turn there are a million RUclips clips about car accidents, and there a small number of reasons. 1. speed, about half of all those accidents are because people drive too fast, that's why roads are narrow so you are deliberately stuck behind somebody that does not speed 2. turning traffic combined with traffic going straight, that's why you can't turn on red, or why there are separate traffic lights for turning and straight 3. cars that loose wheels or cargo, so thank you APK and having to put a net over cargo this was a really nice episode!
Right on Red is an American and Canadian practice. It was started during the 70s oil embargo. The idea was to reduce fuel waste by idling at red lights. Right on Red is basically a stop sign.
If you stand next to a highway with traffic going about 100km/h, you'll know why they chose 2 lanes when there is an emergency.... It's too make sure everyone is safe... And everyone that learns to drive in the Netherlands learns to look over the shoulder, many just don't do it
No, it's not because of the speed, it's because most Dutch drivers are too stupid to follow the rules: if a lane is crossed out, you're not allowed to drive there anymore for whatever reason. An increasing amount of drivers feel that crossed out lanes are always done for no reason at all and thus feel they can drive there. The second is speed: many people actually completely ignore those electronic signs above the road. If they display 70, people will usually drive 90. If they display 50, people will usually drive 70. If people would actually stick to the rules, look around them instead of only slightly beyond their own bonnet (or at their phone/tablet!), crossing out two lanes of traffic because there's a problem on the hard shoulder would not be necessary. But instead, people get angry about the current measures, without knowing how f-ing dangerous roadwork (whatever it is) is. A few months ago I witnessed how someone nearly drove into a redirection arrow-trailer. While my dance teacher (who I was hiking along with) was in the right lane already, a person had missed the crossed out lane to the most right. This means that person had passed the redirection-arrow that flashes before crossing out the lane already, and had missed it. But it continued to miss the next 4 red crosses as well. Only when it hit the first Andreas-strip (this is a kind of speedbump always placed in front of obstacles on provincial and motorways that normally aren't there, as a final warning that you're heading for collision if you don't act), it swerved in full panic. Because those strips are in well visible range of the trailer with the redirection-arrow flashing at you, (which is quite blinding when you drive straight towards it) I just can't imagine how you can miss ALL of those signals. My teacher also noticed it: 'What is he doing... Come on! YOU NEED TO MOVE!' About 30 minutes later, the trailer was actually hit by someone who wasn't paying attention as well.
Many roads and streets are actually designed small forcing people to drive no faster than 30kph. That is actually a lot safer than making the road wider.
No free right turn at a red light makes total sense! There can be a bike or a pedestrian crossing. Even if there is no crossing light for them they have right of way for ‘rechtdoor op dezelfde weg gaat voor’. It would be very difficult to decide if it’s safe to cross if at a red light every car can decide to ignore it and just go right . I think we would get many accidents with pedestrians and cyclists. I taught my kids to watch the lights for cars too, when crossing roads. We now live in an area with much less traffic (you can literally sit 5 minutes in the middle of a road without being hit by anything except maybe a insect), but they use their skills when they go to Amsterdam or Utrecht by themselves now. And they’re teaching their friends to navigate city traffic.
I often watch those bad drivers/crashes from US drivers a lot of the problems i see come from the keeping your lane doctrine and consequently passing on the right and the turn right on red . In the Netherlands you should not have to feel the turn right on red a lot because there is a difference in the way the traffic lights work. In the US it is mostly everything going in a certain direction gets green at the same time and then everything from another direction and it does not matter if there is traffic there. The lights in the Netherlands are supposed to be more dynamic so that you do not have to wait as long.
Yes, we are trained to look over our shoulders before signaling to turn or change lanes in the Netherlands. I know because I could not transfer my driver license from Brazil and I had to take driving lessons and pass the exam in the Netherlands.
You are correct. Also, in the US if there is a four-way stop and two cars get to the intersection at the same time, the person to the right has the right of way. And my biggest pet peeve that is not followed properly in the states is traffic circles...the people inside the circle have the right of way because they are already in the circle and need to exit...that is why stop/yield signs are on the outside of the circle. No one in my city seems to understand that.
In Germany this is all clear. We always look over our shoulders and look for pedestrians and we do overtake on the left hand side and we are mostly not allowed to turn on red because that is better tnan to harm any biker or person.
Lots off things you mention have also been covered in the videos by "not just bikes" and in essence it is because we are not a "car centric" infrastructure but definitely have a look at some of the videos from not just bikes (who now lives in Amsterdam).
I've no idea who you are riding with, but we still learn to look over our shoulder before going to the left lane. This is not necessary when going to the right lane.
Jovie, you know I love your video’s and comments - but this one… 👎🏼 and especially on 2 lanes being closed ❌❌ when there’s an accident, technical problems or whatever: ask the Wegenwacht, ambulance, towtruck or whomever, about working on a road, with cars speeding along with at least 80 km/h. That’s why. The extra ❌ is for them. Let’s appreciate that.
I made this video based on my observations of not only how people drive around me but how they are with other drivers as well. I’m just making comments about what I’m seeing. Just because I say things in this video doesn’t mean I do them. I do follow the rules. I don’t have to like it to do it. I don’t have to find it easy or simple or easy to get used to. I’m just making commentary about what I observe.
We can all agree on the fact that Americans can't drive. A few rounds around the church with your mom or dad next to you and then have your exam, yeah, great excercise. For the Dutch it's normal to check the deadspots, right and left, it's mandatory on your exam.
I made this video based on my observations of not only how people drive around me but how they are with other drivers as well. I’m just making comments about what I’m seeing. Just because I say things in this video doesn’t mean I do them. I do follow the rules. I don’t have to like it to do it. I don’t have to find it easy or simple or easy to get used to. I’m just making commentary about what I observe.
Well, priority from the right is primarily to prevent drivers from going too fast, it's mostly on roads that have max speed of 30 kph, when you are on 50 kph roads, mostly the traffic going straight has right of way. If you're taught this from primary school age, it's actually very logical :)
Interesting video! It's funny, while in the US I find it very unorganized and stressful that people on the highway take all over from all lanes. I find the Dutch system more clear when slow(er) traffic keeps right.
n the Netherlands, you learn during the driving lessons how important it is to look over your shoulder. If you forget this during your exam, you have a problem. You have to take the driving test again. But once some have their driver's license 🤷🏽 ♀️ But how did you learn to drive ??
@@TheSeNaBi je blijft dat zeggen maar dat is gewoon niet waar! Overal kijk je over je schouder als je van baan verwisseld Levensgevaarlijk om dat niet te doen Als je dat niet doet tijdens je examen zak je!
@@TheSeNaBi Lijkt mij heel sterk dat jij op de snelweg rijdt, dan 1 baan naar rechts verplaats, en strak voor je uit blijft kijken. Helemaal in auto's zonder rechter buitenspiegel.
@@TheSeNaBi Sorry @TheSeNaBi los van dat ik ook geleerd heb over mijn schouder te kijken, heb je ongelijk dat een rechter spiegel verplicht is. Mijn auto heeft er geen en is ook zo uit de fabriek gerold. Of een rechter spiegel verlicht is hangt af can het bouwjaar van de auto. Tot 1992 was het niet verplicht. Gister nog 300km over de snelweg in mijn 2cv zonder rechter spiegel. Al moet ik zeggen dat vooral goede lichten, achterruitverwarming zijn belangrijker voor goed zicht. Helaas heeft mijn auto dat alles ook niet. 😄
@@TheSeNaBi jou of mijn mening heeft hier niks mee te maken als je examen doet en je kijkt niet over je schouder (ook op de snel weg) dan zak je gewoon iets met wet en regelgeving daar heeft jou of mijn mening niets mee te doen🤷♀️
Googlen in forums?? Zou het gewoon navragen bij het CBR lijkt me verstandiger Een andere mening hebben mag altijd maar een regel is een regel Ben het ook niet altijd eens met de regels maarja heb me er wel aan te houden Fijne avond verder
Dutch drivers are also riding a bicycle so they know where to look in a car . Maybe you should check " not just bikes" about driving in the US and the Netherlands.
I had a mean teacher for Driver’s Training class in high school in the Midwest. He emphasized always checking for blind spots. I have poor spatial skills but he still taught me to parallel park better than most drivers. He made us sit through real life movies of the police at car crashes pulling out dead bodies even kids. Graphic. Freaked me out. But now I am glad mean old Mr. Moore taught me back in the day.
Hi Jovie, my first time commenting here. I have the feeling that you have never take a driving lesson in the Netherlands? All the road & traffic rules are meant to firstly promote safety and secondly smooth flow of traffic. Overtaking only from the left, looking over the shoulder, the 2 lane closures, leaving enough space when overtaking etc, are just examples of it.
Yes actually she had to retake all the driving courses in the netherlands, because her US driving license wasn’t valid, and failed her first test, because she was “too polite” while driving, she needed a lot more aggressive type of driving
I made this video based on my observations of not only how people drive around me but how they are with other drivers as well. I’m just making comments about what I’m seeing. Just because I say things in this video doesn’t mean I do them. I do follow the rules. I don’t have to like it to do it. I don’t have to find it easy or simple or easy to get used to. I’m just making commentary about what I observe.
@@JoviesHome you copies this response on a couple of posts didn't you? It doesn't reply to his remark (ie. Did you take driving lessons here?). Not withstanding thst you probably did (isn't it mandatory?) But positing an only half related reply to his ppst, a reply you copied a few times, feels a little rude to me.
You should check the mirror, then look over the shoulder and then use the indicator.. because is you use the indicator when someone is next to you they will think your about to drive into them
I made this video based on my observations of not only how people drive around me but how they are with other drivers as well. I’m just making comments about what I’m seeing. Just because I say things in this video doesn’t mean I do them. I do follow the rules. I don’t have to like it to do it. I don’t have to find it easy or simple or easy to get used to. I’m just making commentary about what I observe.
When you take driving lessons you must look over your shoulder, ‘binnen, buiten, naast je’ (like, look into your inside mirror, side mirror and then over your shoulder. I don’t know how to explain it better) is what I have learned when I got my license 10 years ago. If you didn’t do that you’ll fail your exam.
The alternative to the right of way from the right is the way it is done in the US. A stop sign at every junction and you have to negotiate who goes first.
I thought long and hard about the differences with NL roads. In the end, I see it this way -- their "built environment" is designed for humans, whether walking, cycling, pushing a pushchair, using a walking aid, even socialising on the street... Our built environment SHOULD be designed with us humans at the centre, I think. However, the (Anglo-)American approach is to prioritise motor vehicles above all else (despite them being two-tonne killing machines and often terrible for the environment), in terms of not having to give way to humans, in terms of speeds and sheer propagation ahead, in terms of the amount of tarmac dedicated to them of the space available. It's actually quite insane! (There is definitely a desire for efficiently getting places though -- big fast uninterrupted roads, just not through the centre of our liveable built-up environment.) So, not turning right on red in a town is about priority for pedestrians, other human-scale highway users, a more efficient traffic-light sequencing system that is better overall, and giving priority to the right has a "total flow" benefit alongside avoiding one residential street becoming a rat-run at the expense of others, and so on.
Ik heb geleerd dat je na het inhalen pas naar rechts mag gaan als de ingehaalde auto zichtbaar is in je rechter buitenspiegel. Dat waarborgt voldoende afstand. Ik weet dat niet iedereen op de Nederlandse wegen zich hieraan houdt. Wat dat betreft moeten veel automobilisten in Nederland wat beter gaan rijden, want het wordt steeds erger op onze wegen. En de regels handhaven...? Ho maar.
Oh, the correct way in the Netherlands is to check the mirrors, check the blind spot (over your shoulder) and then switch on the indicator light. So indicator light only after you confirmed it is clear to go.
Go right by a red light is not a good idea. Bikes have there own trafficlight so maybe there light is green and it would become very dangerous for the bikes
Stopping in a lane is forbidden so even with a flat tire you have to steer to the emergency lane and better when possible into the grass next to it. Then all lanes stay open.
If someone is being really slow in the left lane then pretty much everyone will overtake them on the right, we like to follow the rules but if someone is being an ass than screw them. You can also be fined for driving in the left lane for a long period of time while the right lane is clear. Also the looking over the shoulder thing is ABSOLUTELY taught during driving lessons. I still remember the looking rule: "backwards mirror, side mirror, over your shoulder". it's one of the main reasons people fail their driving test. I failed my first time because I did not look over my shoulder enough. The people on the right having priority has a lot to do with a concept know as 'traffic calming' it's a really interesting subject. People have already suggested it, but Not Just Bikes is a good channel that explains this.
Oh, I still have nightmares about going for my driving test in The Netherlands after having a licence and driving in all sorts of conditions and terrains for 25 years in Australia. First test I was failed on and my English ex-pat instructor was close to punching the testing officer over it. I did a perfect test, including parallel park....then got failed. My instructor asked the testing officer why I failed and was told it was because I did a perfect test drive and that in his opinion that was not normal!!! I also had countless discussions with my instructor over the passing rules, especially about when to indicate. I was used to indicating to give fair warning, then moving over to pass, indicating again with fair warning to go back into previous lane, leaving ample space between my car and the car I was pulling in front of. The space was not an issue, but the rule here is you only indicate when you start to make your move, not before. The instructor said if you do it before moving, people are confused as to what you want to do. Huh?!! Indicators are not there for decoration. The looking for blind spots is in the training here too, just not many people do it, and I suspect with the blind spot assisstance now on many cars, it is going to become even less of a practice.
Hi from Scotland. Love watching your channel. You seem to be a very genuine person. Also wanted to add that the Glaswegians are also extremely direct. No BS and also everybody talks to you.
checking over shoulder is extremely weird that its mentioned, i always check. well maybe i dont when i know there is nothing to the back, because we always drive on right lane, and usually bikes have their own lane. but definetly when i see a cycling road which i need to cross, ill look over my shoulder
When we go on vacation to The Netherlands, where I was born, my children always tell me that the Dutch drive much better then the Americans. Especially my son loves to drive in Nederland.
about that lane closure: 1 When you are late, you are late. Don't blame lane closures, blame your timetable. 2 laneclosures are a safety issue. Road inspectors ( you know - them annoying guys in the yellow pick up trucks with orange lights and a drip notifying you that the lane is closed ) have one of the most dangerous jobs in this country next to roadworkers that maintain our high quality roadsystem. Unfortunately there are a boatload of nuckleheads outthere that are able to miss all the warning signs, informationdisplays above the road with a red X on it, cones, emergency lights and still manage to hit those mentioned yellow pick up trucks that are positioned in the fend off position on the highway. Hence double lane closures. Same goes for emergency services. You think it is annoying - them guys just want to kick of their own boots when they get home and not have them removed at the ER or morgue.
I was learned that when I want to turn, I need to watch my inside mirror, then the outside mirror of the side I am turning to, and then (without moving my body) look behind me over my shoulders. Though I always look in the inside and outside mirror, this last move I barely ever use. But it was taught to me.
When you drive on a right lane, we have a rule here, that you never drive pass on the right lane, while overtake or drive a bit faster. You should do that on on the left lane! Because nobody is prepared for that.
After driving in Italy for many years, I find driving in the US frightening and frustrating. 1 No roundabouts 2 WAY too many fucking lanes 3 Americans use too many stoplights. Literally takes an hour to go 10 miles. 4 Americans make death defying Kamikaze left hand turns (again, no roundabouts) 5 So many drunk/high drivers 6 Americans don’t ever have to get their cars maintained or inspected (depending on the state). People literally drive around the biggest non road worthy, unsafe pieces of shit. 7 Lorries drive in the passing lane on the freeway and just ride next to another without overtaking. WTF. Get out of the passing lane. What we DO get right in the States is when it comes to accidents. In England, if there’s an accident they will shut the WHOLE FUCKING road down for HOURS while the Police perform a full forensics investigation on every single piece of the broken bits and chunks of shit on the road. In the States they will move the disabled vehicle(s) and broken bits out of the way so people can go on with their life.
We look over our left shoulder not the right one and looking over your right shoulder for 1 second with a speed of 130 km/h can cause an accident because you have te move your upperbody to look between the frontseats than you have to do over your left shoulder
You first have to check mirrors, right or left shoulder, whichever way you want to go, then put the blinker out. Not first the blinker. If I overtake you, and I see a blinker, I assume you didn't see me with the checks, and immediately will make the turn. So I probably have to let go of my gas, or use my brakes. Which in turn, you have to wait for me to overtake you. The process will be longer in the end for both of us. When it's free to go, use your blinker.
Hello Jovie, your suggestion for bigger streetname signs is really good, I 'm used to the streetname being on the housecorners but they are too small to read from a car. The overtaking on the left side only is in our traffic rules Closing a few lanes is indeed annoying but very nessessary. LOL from Amsterdam
i dont think a flat tire will close any lanes, almos all road has a flee section which people can go to when they have a flat tire. add to that that these times might be the only times you get stuck in traffic here in the netherlands which is why it is so great :3
If you don't look over your shoulder during a traffic exam, you fail in NL and I still do it like you. Turn Right on red is not allowed anywhere in the EU. To my knowledge it is typically USA. And cars, bikes, motorcycles coming from the right have priority. That's it. How do I know who is making which turn in a narrow street? Or should we have different priority rules in narrow and wide streets? We do have the rule that all traffic (except pedestrians) if they go straight on the SAME road, have priority over all turning traffic. ONLY on the same road (including adjacent bicycle paths!).
@@robin.n Nope, only "bestuurders" (people driving something. Pedestrians don't drive something. They are not bestuurders, so no priority. Cyclists and horsemen drive something. They get priority.
@@robin.n Oops, you are right. Well I'll be damned. I could have sworn I learned something different. I think maybe it changed in the past 50 years or so?
@@ronaldderooij1774 You did make me doubt myself but this was what I learned ;) I got my license about 12 years ago, don't know if it has changed before that. :)
I also hate the fact that in The Netherlands the lane next to the emergency lane is blocked if there is a car with trouble on the emergency lane. I experienced it a few times that the right lane was blocked (with a red cross above the lane) so I couldn’t take the exit I needed to take. The fine for illegally crossing a blocked lane is very high and often the police is noting number plates at the bottom of the exit. The fine is €250 plus €9 administrative fee. Because you’re not allowed to drive on or cross a blocked lane. I had to take the next exit, turn and drive in the direction I came from to get the exit I need. Especially in rush hours it is annoying because there is every day a traffic jam in that direction, so I had to close behind a traffic jam after the turn and it took me half n hour to get to my exit. If there wouldn’t have been a red cross above the right lane, I would already been home, but I was stuck in traffic in the direction I came from. So very annoying.
Dutchie here, and I I'm totally with you on the street signs. I have the feeling it's been getting worse in the past decades as well. The signs used to be on both sides of the street on the houses or on lantern poles, but now ... Yech - navigation needed badly. Overtaking on the right side - I had to get used to that in US traffic. It's prohibited here, save for when driving in a traffic jam. But the agressive overtaking ... I don't notice it that much up here in Friesland and in driving school, leaving that extra room is most definitely taught. I do notice however that in the Randstad people are much more agressive when driving. Turning right on red will have you killing a cyclist ... ☻
Street signs in the Netherlands (and other European countries) were never designed for motorized traffic, hence it's not that useful anymore for navigating on main roads.
Not overtaking in the right lane, is an old rule from the time, that cars only had a left mirror. My first two cars in the seventies had no mirror on the right side.
Street signs in the uk are small and on buildings as well the sign for my street as been screwed to my garden wall. I came home one day and it was there now one asked if they could do it
I'm always checking the blind spot over my shoulder when I have to change the drive lane. It was something that was told to me when I learned to drive.
you have to look over your shoulder most people do it you learn to do it with bikes in the city but if you dont look over the shoulder you will fail the driving test so as a dutch person i would make a comment if you would not look over your shoulder
Ever been to Italy with your own car? Speaking about narrow roads. I've been to the states a couple of times and the roads and signs are terrible. Potholes and just bad quality roads everywhere and signs are hard to find when you leave the bigger roads. They also do not have much matrix signs to warn drivers about jams or accidents ahead, so lanes are not closed by signs above it (the red cross we have) what causes dangerous situations. Also truckdrivers drove faster than me in my regular car, how is that safe?? After 25 years of driving I can't agree with being overtaken by a car like that. Or maybe its just the way we drive, but to be honest, I never have to touch my brakes while being overtaken.
Right on red is only in the US (since the 1990's) In the rest of the world turning traffic yields for ongoing traffic. And there pedestrians and cyclists are considered traffic.
Within a week of moving to the Netherlands (1968), I had my only collision there. Turning left, I watched for oncoming traffic but did not notice the fietspad beyond. The fast cyclists, but only two were able to avoid my car. The other went over the top. Nobody was injured. When I apologized, they have each other knowing looks, and have me a pass since my stupidity was recognizable by my Texan English.
Bij het inhalen mag je pas terug naar de rechterbaan als de auto in je achteruitkijkspiegel ziet. En ja, het kijken in de dode hoek is ook iets wat je geleerd wordt. En als je dat op je examen niet goed doet, zak je gewoon.
You are supposed to look directly to your sides, not slightly behind. That is covered by your mirrors, but the area exactly to your right or left is not. So a look over to the right or left is normal, looking more to the back (both on the right or left side) is not adding lot, as that is not the blindspot.
Checking over shoulder is trained on the Dutch driving school. You are told to overdo it, so the examiner can see it. Also on a bike you have to look over your shoulder taking a left turn. Not doing this is ignorance or lazyness.
:) What I kinda missed was the thing that annoys me a lot here, i.e. that traffic lights are often high on a pole and on your own side of the intersection. In the States they are on the other side or hang in the middle which makes them very visible. But here, esp if you're the first car at the light, you basically have to lay your head on the dash to look up and see if the light up above turns green! Btw. The person you pass on the right has no right to complain, he/she should not be in the middle/left lane anyway unless overtaking. Driving needlessly left is also a no go and can give you huge fine too... But, the being overtaken left AND right in the States drives me crazy :D Never seen right-on-red anywhere but the US, maybe Canada? Instead, in several countries where turning right is OK, you'd have a separate lane that bypasses the traffic light.
We have had a few places in The Netherlands where they set up traffic lights in the 'American' way (it's not really American, there are other countries as well), only to find out people would be driving the wrong way, as we usually have traffic lights in front of the junction they secure, instead of passed the junction they secure.
In on the right driving countries priority for equal roads on the right is usually because the driver from the left can see the front passenger side of the car coming from the right side before the driver from the right can see the driver side of the car from the left after any obstruction near the crossing. This is assuming both drivers are seated on the most left seat of their cars, which is the usual default configuration for cars when produced for on the right driving countries. This means the driver that has to give priority can anticipate earlier and has if needed a bit more reaction time available to come to a full stop.
Checking blind spots is completely normal. Especially if people take right over which is not allowed in the Netherlands Unless you are in a lane of another direction. Later go to the right is what I do. I always get upset of they go too early to the right.
not overtaking from the right, makes it eazier, as you only really have to look out for one side. besides, everyone here should drive on the right most lane when possible, if someone is stuck in the middle lane cuz there issnt a space on the right most lane it is normal to give them some space. i dont know who gives weird looks for driving faster in the right lane when middle or left is slow :3
the other lane also closed during an accident is because we like our paramedics and such alive when helping people. funny how you think that because you have to drive 5 meters more you should have the right of way.
If I didn't look over my shoulder, my driving instructor would yell at me. Don't try skipping that part on your driving exam in the Netherlands either. Those who tell you it's not necessary haven't had a something suddenly show up from their blind spot. You're just doing what you should do, so don't let anyone convince you you can skip it here. As for right having right of way. If the rule is the same, regardless of the turns you make, you don't have to pay close attention to turn signals. And turning isn't as time consuming as you might think. Unless you have other traffic that has right of way, of course. But it's the consistency that keeps it clear and simple, just like with our red lights. Right has right of way at unmarked crossings, regardless of drivers' intentions. Because we can't read minds, and we can't always trust that people use their turn signals (you should check the song Pinker by Fleddy Melculy to get an idea of how annoyed we already get when people don't use their turn signals) And the extra lane closing at busy times is simply because that's when most drivers are in a hurry and a bit more careless.
Maybe, when you find yourself driving faster than the car(s) on your left, you should move to the fastest lane, so you don't overtake cars on the wrong (right) side.
Ben ik niet met je eens. Mensen rijden op de tweede baan ook wanneer de eerste compleet leeg is, die bestuurder zit ook fout. Wanneer ik 100 op de eerste rij en de auto op de tweede gaat langzamer,daar ga ik echt niet omheen
Ben ik het ook niet mee eens. Mensen in Amerika kijken gewoon goed naar rechts voordat ze een baan naar rechts gaan. En ze kijken goed naar links als ze een baan naar links gaan. De enige reden waarom in Nederland rechts inhalen gevaarlijk is, is omdat we het niet gewend zijn. En omdat we het vanwege de verkeersregels niet verwachten. In Amerika is rechts inhalen echt niet gevaarlijk.
@@womenfrom0202 ik meestal ook niet , maar je moet het wel volgens de regels, irriteer mij mateloos aan bestuurders die niet rechts houden als de rechterbaan vrij is.
@@womenfrom0202 En toch is dat fout. Rechts inhalen mag in zo'n situatie doodeenvoudig niet. Ik heb wel eens een bekeuring gekregen omdat ik te lang links bleef rijden. En terecht! De rechterkant is de primaire kant voor elke weggebruiker. Strikt genomen mag ook een fiets of bromfiets een auto niet rechts inhalen.
We must do something right here, US 2020 38.000 traffic fatalities, in NL 610, if the population would be the same (330 Miljoen against 17 Miljoen) there would be fatalities 11.000 in NL.
Funny, that first point of sharing and being forced to keep your attention and limiting your speed around bikes is exactly as intended and clearly it is working :D
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Checking over your shoulder is even a big thing if you do not do it properly you will fail…
checking the blindspot is definitely part of learning to drive.
Well it would not be as bad as people think. They could use public transport. Which is excellent here.
you can actually fail your driving test if you don't do it.
@@darinakalinova2180 not everywhere
Not on the highway
@@TheSeNaBi Also on the highway. When you don't do that in your driving test you at minimum will get a comment about it from the examinor.
Imagine all the bikers climbing into their cars and join the rush hour traffic, now THAT would take the rush hour to another level!
Add everyone that takes public transportation and put them in a car and the roads wouldn't move! It would basically be a parking lot at rush hour.
@@michellezevenaar And that's exactly what happens in north America.
@@gert-janvanderlee5307 exactly!
I really recommend the channel 'not just bikes' to get to learn the how and why of Dutch roads and traffic rules.
Lots of comparisons with Northern American roads and rules.
(also about the wide roads that really dont solve the traffic problem)
It really made me understand and appreciate Dutch traffic and other things I took for granted
but now see how much thought was put in it.
That's a good channel indeed
I totally agree. The guy from that channel actually understands how roads and traveling works over here and the reasoning behind it. He explains exactly why the North American road system sucks and why the Dutch system is so much better.
In the Netherlands I could drive from anywhere to anywhere without any issue. In the USA I need the GPS because when you’re not on a main road it’s hard to find the street signs. Almost nowhere a direction is given to the next big city, they expect you to know which cities you need to cross to get to that next big city. If you already get a direction, you can not calculate the remaining time because no remaining distance is given. Stop signs on every street, traffic lights that just change every few minutes and hardly react to the amount of traffic. Speed signs that sometimes are covered by overgrown trees or bushes and you cant tell the speed any other way because a 25mph road is exactly the same as a 55mph road. 90% Of traffic speeds by at least 10mph… I prefer the Dutch traffic.
Thanks for the recommendation!
@@JoviesHome you're welcome!
Checken over your shoulder, yeah that's taught during driving lessons. If you don't do it during the exam you will fail.
Yes, but there's a difference between turning your head 90 degrees and fully turning your head 180 degrees. That's not how it's taught here.
If you'd turn your head 180 degrees for a full second every time you turn or switch lanes, you will fail.
If the narrow roads with bike lanes on the side feel narrow then they are doing the job we design them that way on purpose. It means that you have t be attentive and can't go this is my lane i can drive 85 km here when and how i want!. Sharing is caring people say and it's practiced on these roads.
yuup, if the road feels narrow, you are going too fast
Checking the blindspot by look over your shoulder? Yes, I absolutely learned that in the Netherlands!
Most things "lane" related annoy me as a Dutchie just as much as it does you. So your reaction is pretty Dutch 🤣😉
Turn right on red isn't done here, that's because of the bicycles! Dan is right on the right 😂
You always look over your shoulder. That is what you get tought. Makes no sense your fellow drivers find it strange, because that is what you should do and everybody I know does it.
Bij elke zijdelingse verplaatsing: Binnenspiegel, buitenspiegel, schouder, richting aangeven.
And in the past cars didn’t have a mirror at the right! So you had to turn your head.
@@91leonetammie Dus eerst kijken en dan pas - als het veilig is - richting aangeven.
It might be old drivers that not had it thought in the past? Or maybe she turns her head more in 180 degrees than 90 degrees?
I got my drivers license here in Germany and it is mandatory to check your blind spots by turning your head and looking. If you forget to do it during the test they will fail you.
Turning right on red would be practical but considering that the Netherlands and Germany as well have a lot of bikes and pedestrians its an higher risk of hitting someone crossing the street. And I have noticed here in Germany on streets were there are no crosswalks or bike lanes crossing that street we get the green arrow pointing to the right a lot more nowadays, allowing the cars that want to go right to go even on red.
Yes, that is the main reason. In Europe in general, but the Netherlands specifically, you have a lot more pedestrians and cyclists and they want to cross streets too.
You do not check the blind spot by turning your head on a highway. And red is red quite simple
@@TheSeNaBi Yes you do. You forget to do it once during the exam and you MIGHT still pass. Second time you forget the examiner will just go "okay I've seen what I need to see".
"The green arrow" is often attached at intersections where almost every traffic light phase is switched separately and pedestrians / cyclists can only cross the street late when it is "green" without using an extra traffic light with a turning arrow for cars.
If you just slow down it's not all that difficult. And that's exactly what the government wants.
Drivers feeling scared on narrow roads: that is exactly the purpose of those roads.
Careful / scared drivers kill less people.
Those smaller rural roads used to be notorious killing fields with cars racing along at 80 or 100 km/h who are suddenly surprised by hikers, bikers, tractors, horses or even a herd of sheep on the road. So now they are designed to make drivers scared instead of the other people using them.
One thing you didn't mention is "the Dutch Reach" when opening your car door. Now being taught to new drivers in the UK. This involves opening your door with the hand furthest from the door so that you remember to look back and make sure you are not opening your door into the path of a cyclist.
I'm still not sure why it's called that though. I wouldn't think it's a particularly Dutch thing.
There are already systems in certain new cars that can warn passengers and even block car doors, if it's noticing traffic directly next to the car.
I saw that happen in Belgium, but it was the passenger side door and the bike lane was inside of the parking lane.
It’s so funny to hear someone complaining about the way Dutch traffic works, while traffic in the USA is sooooo bad. In the Netherlands you generally have to wait until the traffic from the other side is done. That is noticed by the traffic infrastructure immediately and turns the light to red and yours to green. In the USA the “right on red” is done in a lot of states since 1973 because of the oil crisis. They should have just implemented a better infrastructure so nobody has to wait for minutes, while there is no traffic coming from other crossing directions. I have to drive 35 miles (56 km) to work. It’s mostly a 55 mph road. The average speed is a lot less because there are 36 traffic lights. Some are green when there is no traffic, while others are waiting for minutes on the crossroads. Then when you’re close it turns to red. With the proper infrastructure there would be so much more savings on gas than just being able to turn on red. The same can be said about a stop sign on every street. There are so many that 95% of traffic doesn’t fully stop at the stop sign but rolls or drive through it. The stop sign is just a measure which can’t explain the guilty one, when there is a collision without witnesses, it’s your word against theirs. When you must yield for traffic from the right it’s simple and clear: the car from the left is wrong in case of a collision.
Most drivers in the USA are bad drivers. They don’t give a dam* because the chance of getting caught is too slim. Keep right and only pass on the left? Over half the cars just keep driving left. Passing on the right is not allowed but due to lots and lots of drivers staying in the left lane, lots and lots of drivers pass on the right as well. Stop on red and on yellow if you can? Nope, most add more speed when the lights are turning yellow because they stay yellow for about 4 seconds and so there’s plenty of time to speed through it. Don’t make it at yellow? Then just speed through the just turned red light! I see this multiple times daily. Speed limit? Not really, the average American drives 10 to 15 mph faster, even with a speed limit of just 25 mph. But hey, that’s what you get when you make everyone so dependent on cars that it’s very easy to pass the exam. You can just learn in your won car with someone who has a license and drives for at least two years. Great teachers! NOT.
I live in New Jersey where the chance of getting killed in a car accident is over 800% of that in the Netherlands. It’s for a reason. Drivers drive unsafe, roads are unsafe, drivers license are very easy obtainable, traffic rules are not enforced enough, and so on…
Several states, such as Missouri, had right turn on red before 1973. DC didn't have it until fairly recently and is considering doing away with it. There is also left turn on red, when both streets are one-way streets.
I agree completely about street signs, on buildings and only on one side. If you come from the 'wrong' direction you won't be able to see the sign at all.
That was a really good list of reason as to why driving in the US is a lot less safe then in EU :D Just about every one of them have been proven to lower safety. That said, you might want to take a look at "NotJustBikes" here on youtube, he is from Canada and also live in the Nederland and talk about urban planning and why traffic/etc is the way it is in the Nederland.
He does make mistakes some times in his videos but 95% is correct.
Just watched the video on the Not Just Bikes! Thanks for the suggestion. It was seriously interesting!🙂
He did live in Houston, Texas as well and so knows the traffic in the USA well.
Safe!!! I wouldn't cycling in that lane showed in the video which is next to a car lane like that in NL. If really concerning about the safety 4 both cyclists and car drivers why not build /have a dividers or barrel in between -stupid ! And to @JoviesHome who complain about driving in narrow and next to bicyclist gie a "love" to above seem odd. I can tell that you scare of Dutch being/feel defend. lol.What a kiss ass.
Going slow in busy bike area's is intended and build into the road design. For all you foreign viewers, go and binge watch "not just bikes" and you will get it!
For biking in the Netherlands, see channel Not just bikes.
The streets are narrow with a purpose; it’s to slow down car traffic where necessary.
Overtaking a car, they learned it differently to what they’re doing. After overtaking you only go to the right as the whole car you overtook is visible in the rear view mirror.
They learned to check over their shoulder before changing lanes.
Thanks for the recommendation!
I find the "right turn on red" in the US so weird. Everything is my body is just screaming not to drive through a red light. Why don't they just change the trafficlight with a green arrow to the right or something? It is so confusing.
The "right of way" rule in NL is mostly to slow down traffic. If straight ahead never needs to stop you have a way bigger risk of people speeding, which causes unsafe situations especially for other road users (pedestrians/cyclists).
You aren't required to turn on red. It is your decision, when feel it is safe to turn and if that is to wait for the green light, that's fine. There is also left turn turn on red. This requires that both streets are one-way streets. Turning on red, requires stopping before turning.
@@jimjungle1397 I know, but when I don't I get people honking behind me. It just a weird concept to me. If you want people to drive through it (or give them the option to), why not make the light green or orange?
@@Nienke131 In most places in America it is illegal to honk a horn, unless it is an emergency, such as to avoid an accident. I don't enter intersections, especially with a red light, because somebody is annoyed and illegally horks their horn. Here in DC 99 percent of the intersections have no turn on red signs. There is one I know that doesn't have a sign posted, but wait for the green light, because there are some many traffic cameras. DC prohibited turning on red, unless there was a sign allowing it, for many years, but decided to allow it not long ago, because so many people here are from out of town. Now there are signs at every intersection saying no turn on red. Right now they are debating returning to doing away with turning on red, for city safety.
You don't pass on the right. The only time I ever pass on the right is when there is a traffic jam or traffic is slowed down and left lane is not moving as fast as right. Under normal driving conditions it is far safer to have a rule which restricts passing on the left only. Also part of this is that you should be moving to the right if the lane to your right becomes free. This helps for traffic to move better. Having driven in the States for 20 years of my life where people travel at any speed in any lane, having these rules here in NL (here for now 30) makes driving decisions much easier and safer.
If you RESTRICT passing on the left, like you just said, then your only way to pass is on the right.
This is the textbook theory yes. But in reality? If I'm driving in the right lane and there's plenty of room in front of me? I'm gonna stay in that right lane. I'm not gonna move two lanes left, overtake a slow car in the middle and move two lanes to the right again. I will keep an eye on that car the whole time, to check of they are moving to the right but I usually drive around the speed limit, a bit faster of I'm overtraking to the left, so if I can pass you on the right? You're not paying attention.
@@gert-janvanderlee5307 En toch is deze methode fout. Rechts inhalen mag alleen wanneer de weggebruiker heeft aangegeven links voor te sorteren. De plek op de weg is steeds zo rechts mogelijk. Dat er mensen zijn die zich daar niet aan houden, is vervelend, maar rechtvaardigt niet dat je ze rechts mag inhalen. Zo simpel is het.
@@donarnoldus7884 Volgens mij zei ik dat ook. Maar van rijstrook wisselen is ook nooit zonder risico. Dus blijf ik liever rechts rijden en houd ik die ene auto goed in de gaten dan 4x van rijstrook te wisselen.
@@gert-janvanderlee5307 Ik snap het wel, maar het blijft fout. Op de weg tussen Utrecht en Amsterdam stapelen dit soort fouten zich op. Je moet ogen van voren en van achteren hebben en iedereen doet maar wat hij/zij goeddunkt. Het komt de verkeersveiligheid niet ten goede
Aren't they calling you out, because you turn on your blinker before checking if you can switch lanes. 1. Look 2. All clear? 3.Blinker 4. Action.
About the overtaking and looking over your shoulder. I am a driving instructor (I even teached our queen to drive on the truck): the way you describe is not the way people are being teached to drive. You have to wait untill you see the car you are overtaking in your inside mirror. Then you check the outside mirror and your shoulder. Then blink and turn to the right.
Dutch people just a few days ago nearly destroyed downtown Rotterdam because they don’t like something. So you are definitely allowed to say some negative stuff!
Those narrow streets aren’t divided up in a part for cars and a part for bikes. Those red parts with the bashed line are “bike suggestion lanes.” It’s a shared space and the whole idea is that you slow down and carefully pass cyclists. So you’re actually doing a good job if you slow down! So we’ll done!
“Keep your lane” has been proven to cause more accidents than overtaking on the left. Staying in the left lane is also illegal here and always in the top 3 of the most annoying things. The police use that list to see what they should look out for extra.
You’re supposed to do the shoulder check. You will fail your exam if you don’t do a shoulder check. So people who get angry at you for doing it should turn their license in😂
When the lanes get closed, it’s because of safety. The government chooses safety over wait time. I actually think it’s better.
“Turn on red” has also been proven to cause a lot of extra accidents in the US. Which is why more and more states where it’s legal are looking into making it illegal. I’m not sure if any actually done that yet.
The right of way thing is this way because it’s simpler. You can’t always see if someone is going to make a turn or go straight. So this way, it’s just always clear. Someone coming from the right? They have the right of way.
Most of them are Marokkan.
This is the reason why cars go back in the lane so quick. It's called Rechts aanhouden. To give left the space to overtake.
Hi. I am a driving instructor with over 34 years experiance. Worked lot of years at the a.n.w.b. Thing we teach people to view their blind spot but Also teach the that during looking in your blind blind spot your shoulders should not move because of two reasons. When you move your shoulders you also unintensionaly
Turn your steering wheel. Secconds reading is that if you look to deel info the blind spot you losse contact with whats happening in front of you like a cat that starts to brake and in you perivial sights you would miss the brakel lights of the car in front. When the mirrors are set correctly than a to deep look over your shoulders isnt nessesary. Its also in the drivers procedure the CBR uses during their test. Turning right through red light is something i learned fast while i was in the States lol. Cutting you off like you dircribed isnt normal and that's something you only see a lot in the bigger citys. Where i live here in Friesland you dont see that as much and the driving procedure also wants you to wat until you see the car you overtake in your insider mirror. Soms people make the mistake is shiftng back to right if they see you in the right mirror, wich causses to cut you off. Did a lot of advanced driving courses and thing that i experianced a lot was that a lot of people dont set their mirrors right and they dont know exactly were the blind spot is. And wich mirror to use while overtaking. Correct viewing techniques is Essentials. Love your blogg by the way. Love to help you out if you want more advice about anything concerning traffic.
Thank you for the detailed responce, I appreciate it.
Reclame vind ik oervervelend, je komt bovendien bijzonder hebberig over. Een Vlog maak je omdat je het leuk vindt.
Je moet met je auto helemaal niet meer in een binnenstad komen maar ook met de fiets of het goede openbaar vervoer gaan. (neem de fiets, dan gebeurt je niets) - Wel goed dat je voorzichtig rijdt - Ga te paard als Sinterklaas dan ben je het straatraadsel te baas! Achterom kijken tijdens het rijden is simpelweg verboden omdat je niet ziet wat er voor je gebeurt en veel mensen hun stuur een beetje meedraaien. Als je je punt hebt gemaakt, vertel je het vaak nog 3x, we snappen het na 1x ook wel, hoor.
We are trained to look over our shoulder. If you don’t you will fail the exam. I don’t know who you drive with but its weird you get commented on that. I often look over my shoulder, especially on the right. Please do not overtake on the right. Ever. Just move two lanes. Red is stop, dont go. Pretty easy to remember ;) We dont use stop signs as much as they have shown to not work or provide false sense of security. We have right of way from the right. You don’t have to remember who came first, person right of you goes first. Easy. Signs always superceed that. If you are on a ‘voorrangsweg’ you have the priority over right.
I made this video based on my observations of not only how people drive around me but how they are with other drivers as well. I’m just making comments about what I’m seeing. Just because I say things in this video doesn’t mean I do them. I do follow the rules. I don’t have to like it to do it. I don’t have to find it easy or simple or easy to get used to. I’m just making commentary about what I observe.
0. it's ok to criticize, your one of us now ( one of us, one of us, ... )
1. the aim of Dutch traffic is "slow down and pay attention". narrow roads "feel" dangerous, that is on purpose, because you will automatically "slow down and pay attention" without any sign forcing you too. it is kind of brilliant
2. street signs is really a problem, I was lost a while ago and it took me 15 min to find a street sign and of course with numbered streets it's much easier to find your way
4. it is illegal to overtake on the right side. you have to allow for the car on the left to overtake you. it's to prevent a situation where the right car doesn't allow the left car to overtake, it could cause accidents especially when you're on a normal road with traffic coming from the opposite side
5. yes, looking over your shoulder is part of the driver test, and a whole ( big ) car or bicycle can disappear in your blind spot , so you should definitely check, especially on roundabouts
7. right turns on red are very, very, very dangerous especially for bicycles and pedestrians
8. having priority going straight over turning only applies when you're on the same road, where the opposing car wants to turn
there are a million RUclips clips about car accidents, and there a small number of reasons.
1. speed, about half of all those accidents are because people drive too fast, that's why roads are narrow so you are deliberately stuck behind somebody that does not speed
2. turning traffic combined with traffic going straight, that's why you can't turn on red, or why there are separate traffic lights for turning and straight
3. cars that loose wheels or cargo, so thank you APK and having to put a net over cargo
this was a really nice episode!
Right on Red is an American and Canadian practice. It was started during the 70s oil embargo. The idea was to reduce fuel waste by idling at red lights. Right on Red is basically a stop sign.
If you stand next to a highway with traffic going about 100km/h, you'll know why they chose 2 lanes when there is an emergency....
It's too make sure everyone is safe...
And everyone that learns to drive in the Netherlands learns to look over the shoulder, many just don't do it
No, it's not because of the speed, it's because most Dutch drivers are too stupid to follow the rules: if a lane is crossed out, you're not allowed to drive there anymore for whatever reason. An increasing amount of drivers feel that crossed out lanes are always done for no reason at all and thus feel they can drive there.
The second is speed: many people actually completely ignore those electronic signs above the road. If they display 70, people will usually drive 90. If they display 50, people will usually drive 70. If people would actually stick to the rules, look around them instead of only slightly beyond their own bonnet (or at their phone/tablet!), crossing out two lanes of traffic because there's a problem on the hard shoulder would not be necessary. But instead, people get angry about the current measures, without knowing how f-ing dangerous roadwork (whatever it is) is.
A few months ago I witnessed how someone nearly drove into a redirection arrow-trailer. While my dance teacher (who I was hiking along with) was in the right lane already, a person had missed the crossed out lane to the most right. This means that person had passed the redirection-arrow that flashes before crossing out the lane already, and had missed it. But it continued to miss the next 4 red crosses as well. Only when it hit the first Andreas-strip (this is a kind of speedbump always placed in front of obstacles on provincial and motorways that normally aren't there, as a final warning that you're heading for collision if you don't act), it swerved in full panic. Because those strips are in well visible range of the trailer with the redirection-arrow flashing at you, (which is quite blinding when you drive straight towards it) I just can't imagine how you can miss ALL of those signals.
My teacher also noticed it: 'What is he doing... Come on! YOU NEED TO MOVE!'
About 30 minutes later, the trailer was actually hit by someone who wasn't paying attention as well.
Many roads and streets are actually designed small forcing people to drive no faster than 30kph. That is actually a lot safer than making the road wider.
No free right turn at a red light makes total sense! There can be a bike or a pedestrian crossing. Even if there is no crossing light for them they have right of way for ‘rechtdoor op dezelfde weg gaat voor’.
It would be very difficult to decide if it’s safe to cross if at a red light every car can decide to ignore it and just go right . I think we would get many accidents with pedestrians and cyclists. I taught my kids to watch the lights for cars too, when crossing roads. We now live in an area with much less traffic (you can literally sit 5 minutes in the middle of a road without being hit by anything except maybe a insect), but they use their skills when they go to Amsterdam or Utrecht by themselves now. And they’re teaching their friends to navigate city traffic.
I often watch those bad drivers/crashes from US drivers a lot of the problems i see come from the keeping your lane doctrine and consequently passing on the right and the turn right on red . In the Netherlands you should not have to feel the turn right on red a lot because there is a difference in the way the traffic lights work. In the US it is mostly everything going in a certain direction gets green at the same time and then everything from another direction and it does not matter if there is traffic there. The lights in the Netherlands are supposed to be more dynamic so that you do not have to wait as long.
Yes, we are trained to look over our shoulders before signaling to turn or change lanes in the Netherlands. I know because I could not transfer my driver license from Brazil and I had to take driving lessons and pass the exam in the Netherlands.
@7:53 I am pretty sure that traffic law in the US also says that you need to use the left lane when overtaking.
You are correct. Also, in the US if there is a four-way stop and two cars get to the intersection at the same time, the person to the right has the right of way. And my biggest pet peeve that is not followed properly in the states is traffic circles...the people inside the circle have the right of way because they are already in the circle and need to exit...that is why stop/yield signs are on the outside of the circle. No one in my city seems to understand that.
In Germany this is all clear. We always look over our shoulders and look for pedestrians and we do overtake on the left hand side and we are mostly not allowed to turn on red because that is better tnan to harm any biker or person.
Lots off things you mention have also been covered in the videos by "not just bikes" and in essence it is because we are not a "car centric" infrastructure but definitely have a look at some of the videos from not just bikes (who now lives in Amsterdam).
As far as I know, everybody learns to look over there shoulder when they turn the corner.. Specially with all the biks in the Netherlands...
This is a sharp contrast from Not Just Bikes' video about the Netherlands being the best country to drive a car in.
There's always different opinions to be found out there!
I've no idea who you are riding with, but we still learn to look over our shoulder before going to the left lane. This is not necessary when going to the right lane.
Eh, it’s always necessary. Once I forgot and I nearly clipped a Wegenwacht.
Jovie, you know I love your video’s and comments - but this one… 👎🏼 and especially on 2 lanes being closed ❌❌ when there’s an accident, technical problems or whatever: ask the Wegenwacht, ambulance, towtruck or whomever, about working on a road, with cars speeding along with at least 80 km/h. That’s why. The extra ❌ is for them. Let’s appreciate that.
Yes, agree. Beeing in time for an appointment is never a reason to make it less safe for the people who are there tot help.
I made this video based on my observations of not only how people drive around me but how they are with other drivers as well. I’m just making comments about what I’m seeing. Just because I say things in this video doesn’t mean I do them. I do follow the rules. I don’t have to like it to do it. I don’t have to find it easy or simple or easy to get used to. I’m just making commentary about what I observe.
@@JoviesHome i think the point was he feels you should appreciate the rule more and (thus) dislike it less? I think at least.
We can all agree on the fact that Americans can't drive. A few rounds around the church with your mom or dad next to you and then have your exam, yeah, great excercise.
For the Dutch it's normal to check the deadspots, right and left, it's mandatory on your exam.
I made this video based on my observations of not only how people drive around me but how they are with other drivers as well. I’m just making comments about what I’m seeing. Just because I say things in this video doesn’t mean I do them. I do follow the rules. I don’t have to like it to do it. I don’t have to find it easy or simple or easy to get used to. I’m just making commentary about what I observe.
Well, priority from the right is primarily to prevent drivers from going too fast, it's mostly on roads that have max speed of 30 kph, when you are on 50 kph roads, mostly the traffic going straight has right of way. If you're taught this from primary school age, it's actually very logical :)
NONSENSE
Interesting video! It's funny, while in the US I find it very unorganized and stressful that people on the highway take all over from all lanes. I find the Dutch system more clear when slow(er) traffic keeps right.
True!!
n the Netherlands, you learn during the driving lessons how important it is to look over your shoulder. If you forget this during your exam, you have a problem. You have to take the driving test again. But once some have their driver's license 🤷🏽 ♀️
But how did you learn to drive ??
@@TheSeNaBi je blijft dat zeggen maar dat is gewoon niet waar!
Overal kijk je over je schouder als je van baan verwisseld
Levensgevaarlijk om dat niet te doen
Als je dat niet doet tijdens je examen zak je!
@@TheSeNaBi Lijkt mij heel sterk dat jij op de snelweg rijdt, dan 1 baan naar rechts verplaats, en strak voor je uit blijft kijken. Helemaal in auto's zonder rechter buitenspiegel.
@@TheSeNaBi Sorry @TheSeNaBi los van dat ik ook geleerd heb over mijn schouder te kijken, heb je ongelijk dat een rechter spiegel verplicht is. Mijn auto heeft er geen en is ook zo uit de fabriek gerold. Of een rechter spiegel verlicht is hangt af can het bouwjaar van de auto. Tot 1992 was het niet verplicht. Gister nog 300km over de snelweg in mijn 2cv zonder rechter spiegel. Al moet ik zeggen dat vooral goede lichten, achterruitverwarming zijn belangrijker voor goed zicht. Helaas heeft mijn auto dat alles ook niet. 😄
@@TheSeNaBi jou of mijn mening heeft hier niks mee te maken als je examen doet en je kijkt niet over je schouder (ook op de snel weg) dan zak je gewoon iets met wet en regelgeving daar heeft jou of mijn mening niets mee te doen🤷♀️
Googlen in forums??
Zou het gewoon navragen bij het CBR lijkt me verstandiger
Een andere mening hebben mag altijd maar een regel is een regel
Ben het ook niet altijd eens met de regels maarja heb me er wel aan te houden
Fijne avond verder
Dutch drivers are also riding a bicycle so they know where to look in a car . Maybe you should check " not just bikes" about driving in the US and the Netherlands.
Thanks for the recommendation!
I had a mean teacher for Driver’s Training class in high school in the Midwest. He emphasized always checking for blind spots. I have poor spatial skills but he still taught me to parallel park better than most drivers. He made us sit through real life movies of the police at car crashes pulling out dead bodies even kids. Graphic. Freaked me out. But now I am glad mean old Mr. Moore taught me back in the day.
You are suppost to check you mirror and blind spot first and THEN turn your blinker on IF it is safe to change your lane.
Hi Jovie, my first time commenting here.
I have the feeling that you have never take a driving lesson in the Netherlands?
All the road & traffic rules are meant to firstly promote safety and secondly smooth flow of traffic.
Overtaking only from the left, looking over the shoulder, the 2 lane closures, leaving enough space when overtaking etc, are just examples of it.
Yes actually she had to retake all the driving courses in the netherlands, because her US driving license wasn’t valid, and failed her first test, because she was “too polite” while driving, she needed a lot more aggressive type of driving
@@willy4170 That answers the agressive part.
@@willy4170 haha thats why i failed my US Texas driver test the first time… to aggressive and to fast
I made this video based on my observations of not only how people drive around me but how they are with other drivers as well. I’m just making comments about what I’m seeing. Just because I say things in this video doesn’t mean I do them. I do follow the rules. I don’t have to like it to do it. I don’t have to find it easy or simple or easy to get used to. I’m just making commentary about what I observe.
@@JoviesHome you copies this response on a couple of posts didn't you? It doesn't reply to his remark (ie. Did you take driving lessons here?). Not withstanding thst you probably did (isn't it mandatory?) But positing an only half related reply to his ppst, a reply you copied a few times, feels a little rude to me.
You should check the mirror, then look over the shoulder and then use the indicator.. because is you use the indicator when someone is next to you they will think your about to drive into them
I made this video based on my observations of not only how people drive around me but how they are with other drivers as well. I’m just making comments about what I’m seeing. Just because I say things in this video doesn’t mean I do them. I do follow the rules. I don’t have to like it to do it. I don’t have to find it easy or simple or easy to get used to. I’m just making commentary about what I observe.
When you take driving lessons you must look over your shoulder, ‘binnen, buiten, naast je’ (like, look into your inside mirror, side mirror and then over your shoulder. I don’t know how to explain it better) is what I have learned when I got my license 10 years ago. If you didn’t do that you’ll fail your exam.
The alternative to the right of way from the right is the way it is done in the US. A stop sign at every junction and you have to negotiate who goes first.
I thought long and hard about the differences with NL roads.
In the end, I see it this way -- their "built environment" is designed for humans, whether walking, cycling, pushing a pushchair, using a walking aid, even socialising on the street... Our built environment SHOULD be designed with us humans at the centre, I think. However, the (Anglo-)American approach is to prioritise motor vehicles above all else (despite them being two-tonne killing machines and often terrible for the environment), in terms of not having to give way to humans, in terms of speeds and sheer propagation ahead, in terms of the amount of tarmac dedicated to them of the space available. It's actually quite insane! (There is definitely a desire for efficiently getting places though -- big fast uninterrupted roads, just not through the centre of our liveable built-up environment.)
So, not turning right on red in a town is about priority for pedestrians, other human-scale highway users, a more efficient traffic-light sequencing system that is better overall, and giving priority to the right has a "total flow" benefit alongside avoiding one residential street becoming a rat-run at the expense of others, and so on.
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12:00 I find it crazy that turning on a red light is encouraged
if they overtake you and go infriont without space most times they are trying to tell you go to the right but i dont like it to
Stay safe out there!
Ik heb geleerd dat je na het inhalen pas naar rechts mag gaan als de ingehaalde auto zichtbaar is in je rechter buitenspiegel. Dat waarborgt voldoende afstand. Ik weet dat niet iedereen op de Nederlandse wegen zich hieraan houdt. Wat dat betreft moeten veel automobilisten in Nederland wat beter gaan rijden, want het wordt steeds erger op onze wegen. En de regels handhaven...? Ho maar.
Oh, the correct way in the Netherlands is to check the mirrors, check the blind spot (over your shoulder) and then switch on the indicator light. So indicator light only after you confirmed it is clear to go.
Go right by a red light is not a good idea.
Bikes have there own trafficlight so maybe there light is green and it would become very dangerous for the bikes
Stopping in a lane is forbidden so even with a flat tire you have to steer to the emergency lane and better when possible into the grass next to it. Then all lanes stay open.
If someone is being really slow in the left lane then pretty much everyone will overtake them on the right, we like to follow the rules but if someone is being an ass than screw them. You can also be fined for driving in the left lane for a long period of time while the right lane is clear.
Also the looking over the shoulder thing is ABSOLUTELY taught during driving lessons. I still remember the looking rule: "backwards mirror, side mirror, over your shoulder". it's one of the main reasons people fail their driving test. I failed my first time because I did not look over my shoulder enough.
The people on the right having priority has a lot to do with a concept know as 'traffic calming' it's a really interesting subject. People have already suggested it, but Not Just Bikes is a good channel that explains this.
Oh, I still have nightmares about going for my driving test in The Netherlands after having a licence and driving in all sorts of conditions and terrains for 25 years in Australia. First test I was failed on and my English ex-pat instructor was close to punching the testing officer over it. I did a perfect test, including parallel park....then got failed. My instructor asked the testing officer why I failed and was told it was because I did a perfect test drive and that in his opinion that was not normal!!! I also had countless discussions with my instructor over the passing rules, especially about when to indicate. I was used to indicating to give fair warning, then moving over to pass, indicating again with fair warning to go back into previous lane, leaving ample space between my car and the car I was pulling in front of. The space was not an issue, but the rule here is you only indicate when you start to make your move, not before. The instructor said if you do it before moving, people are confused as to what you want to do. Huh?!! Indicators are not there for decoration. The looking for blind spots is in the training here too, just not many people do it, and I suspect with the blind spot assisstance now on many cars, it is going to become even less of a practice.
Hi from Scotland. Love watching your channel. You seem to be a very genuine person. Also wanted to add that the Glaswegians are also extremely direct. No BS and also everybody talks to you.
checking over shoulder is extremely weird that its mentioned, i always check. well maybe i dont when i know there is nothing to the back, because we always drive on right lane, and usually bikes have their own lane. but definetly when i see a cycling road which i need to cross, ill look over my shoulder
When we go on vacation to The Netherlands, where I was born, my children always tell me that the Dutch drive much better then the Americans.
Especially my son loves to drive in Nederland.
We are strictly trained to look over the sholders, but after a few months of driving we do that only we think when it is necessary. (Serbia)
Overtaking in the US darn well SHOULD be from the left. Left lane is for passing. The fact this isn't always respected doesn't make it right.
about that lane closure:
1 When you are late, you are late. Don't blame lane closures, blame your timetable.
2 laneclosures are a safety issue. Road inspectors ( you know - them annoying guys in the yellow pick up trucks with orange lights and a drip notifying you that the lane is closed ) have one of the most dangerous jobs in this country next to roadworkers that maintain our high quality roadsystem. Unfortunately there are a boatload of nuckleheads outthere that are able to miss all the warning signs, informationdisplays above the road with a red X on it, cones, emergency lights and still manage to hit those mentioned yellow pick up trucks that are positioned in the fend off position on the highway.
Hence double lane closures. Same goes for emergency services.
You think it is annoying - them guys just want to kick of their own boots when they get home and not have them removed at the ER or morgue.
I was learned that when I want to turn, I need to watch my inside mirror, then the outside mirror of the side I am turning to, and then (without moving my body) look behind me over my shoulders.
Though I always look in the inside and outside mirror, this last move I barely ever use. But it was taught to me.
When overtaking please check BEFORE indicating, NOT AFTER!
Right turn on red will probably kill a lot of cyclists.
When you drive on a right lane, we have a rule here, that you never drive pass on the right lane, while overtake or drive a bit faster. You should do that on on the left lane! Because nobody is prepared for that.
After driving in Italy for many years, I find driving in the US frightening and frustrating.
1 No roundabouts
2 WAY too many fucking lanes
3 Americans use too many stoplights. Literally takes an hour to go 10 miles.
4 Americans make death defying Kamikaze left hand turns (again, no roundabouts)
5 So many drunk/high drivers
6 Americans don’t ever have to get their cars maintained or inspected (depending on the state). People literally drive around the biggest non road worthy, unsafe pieces of shit.
7 Lorries drive in the passing lane on the freeway and just ride next to another without overtaking. WTF. Get out of the passing lane.
What we DO get right in the States is when it comes to accidents. In England, if there’s an accident they will shut the WHOLE FUCKING road down for HOURS while the Police perform a full forensics investigation on every single piece of the broken bits and chunks of shit on the road.
In the States they will move the disabled vehicle(s) and broken bits out of the way so people can go on with their life.
We look over our left shoulder not the right one and looking over your right shoulder for 1 second with a speed of 130 km/h can cause an accident because you have te move your upperbody to look between the frontseats than you have to do over your left shoulder
You first have to check mirrors, right or left shoulder, whichever way you want to go, then put the blinker out. Not first the blinker. If I overtake you, and I see a blinker, I assume you didn't see me with the checks, and immediately will make the turn. So I probably have to let go of my gas, or use my brakes. Which in turn, you have to wait for me to overtake you. The process will be longer in the end for both of us. When it's free to go, use your blinker.
Usually bikers know what they're doing.
Just go with the flow and don't make any abrupt moves.
Ik had gelukkig een rij-instructeur die me heeft geleerd over mijn schouder te kijken. Blinde hoek is zoooooo gevaarlijk.
Hello Jovie, your suggestion for bigger streetname signs is really good, I 'm used to the streetname being on the housecorners but they are too small to read from a car. The overtaking on the left side only is in our traffic rules Closing a few lanes is indeed annoying but very nessessary. LOL from Amsterdam
i dont think a flat tire will close any lanes, almos all road has a flee section which people can go to when they have a flat tire.
add to that that these times might be the only times you get stuck in traffic here in the netherlands which is why it is so great :3
If you don't look over your shoulder during a traffic exam, you fail in NL and I still do it like you. Turn Right on red is not allowed anywhere in the EU. To my knowledge it is typically USA. And cars, bikes, motorcycles coming from the right have priority. That's it. How do I know who is making which turn in a narrow street? Or should we have different priority rules in narrow and wide streets? We do have the rule that all traffic (except pedestrians) if they go straight on the SAME road, have priority over all turning traffic. ONLY on the same road (including adjacent bicycle paths!).
Pedestrians going straight do have priority. Pedestrians coming from the right don't.
@@robin.n Nope, only "bestuurders" (people driving something. Pedestrians don't drive something. They are not bestuurders, so no priority. Cyclists and horsemen drive something. They get priority.
@@ronaldderooij1774 I'm pretty sure it's about all traffic (verkeer) and not just drivers(bestuurders).
@@robin.n Oops, you are right. Well I'll be damned. I could have sworn I learned something different. I think maybe it changed in the past 50 years or so?
@@ronaldderooij1774 You did make me doubt myself but this was what I learned ;) I got my license about 12 years ago, don't know if it has changed before that. :)
I also hate the fact that in The Netherlands the lane next to the emergency lane is blocked if there is a car with trouble on the emergency lane. I experienced it a few times that the right lane was blocked (with a red cross above the lane) so I couldn’t take the exit I needed to take. The fine for illegally crossing a blocked lane is very high and often the police is noting number plates at the bottom of the exit. The fine is €250 plus €9 administrative fee. Because you’re not allowed to drive on or cross a blocked lane. I had to take the next exit, turn and drive in the direction I came from to get the exit I need. Especially in rush hours it is annoying because there is every day a traffic jam in that direction, so I had to close behind a traffic jam after the turn and it took me half n hour to get to my exit. If there wouldn’t have been a red cross above the right lane, I would already been home, but I was stuck in traffic in the direction I came from. So very annoying.
Dutchie here, and I I'm totally with you on the street signs. I have the feeling it's been getting worse in the past decades as well. The signs used to be on both sides of the street on the houses or on lantern poles, but now ... Yech - navigation needed badly.
Overtaking on the right side - I had to get used to that in US traffic. It's prohibited here, save for when driving in a traffic jam. But the agressive overtaking ... I don't notice it that much up here in Friesland and in driving school, leaving that extra room is most definitely taught. I do notice however that in the Randstad people are much more agressive when driving.
Turning right on red will have you killing a cyclist ... ☻
Things could definitely be better!
Street signs in the Netherlands (and other European countries) were never designed for motorized traffic, hence it's not that useful anymore for navigating on main roads.
Not overtaking in the right lane, is an old rule from the time, that cars only had a left mirror. My first two cars in the seventies had no mirror on the right side.
Street signs in the uk are small and on buildings as well the sign for my street as been screwed to my garden wall. I came home one day and it was there now one asked if they could do it
I'm always checking the blind spot over my shoulder when I have to change the drive lane. It was something that was told to me when I learned to drive.
you have to look over your shoulder most people do it you learn to do it with bikes in the city but if you dont look over the shoulder you will fail the driving test so as a dutch person i would make a comment if you would not look over your shoulder
Jovie,
Wij Nederlanders klagen altijd en overal over.
Gooi het eruit!
Ever been to Italy with your own car? Speaking about narrow roads. I've been to the states a couple of times and the roads and signs are terrible. Potholes and just bad quality roads everywhere and signs are hard to find when you leave the bigger roads. They also do not have much matrix signs to warn drivers about jams or accidents ahead, so lanes are not closed by signs above it (the red cross we have) what causes dangerous situations. Also truckdrivers drove faster than me in my regular car, how is that safe?? After 25 years of driving I can't agree with being overtaken by a car like that. Or maybe its just the way we drive, but to be honest, I never have to touch my brakes while being overtaken.
Right on red is only in the US (since the 1990's)
In the rest of the world turning traffic yields for ongoing traffic. And there pedestrians and cyclists are considered traffic.
Within a week of moving to the Netherlands (1968), I had my only collision there. Turning left, I watched for oncoming traffic but did not notice the fietspad beyond. The fast cyclists, but only two were able to avoid my car. The other went over the top. Nobody was injured. When I apologized, they have each other knowing looks, and have me a pass since my stupidity was recognizable by my Texan English.
Bij het inhalen mag je pas terug naar de rechterbaan als de auto in je achteruitkijkspiegel ziet.
En ja, het kijken in de dode hoek is ook iets wat je geleerd wordt. En als je dat op je examen niet goed doet, zak je gewoon.
You are supposed to look directly to your sides, not slightly behind. That is covered by your mirrors, but the area exactly to your right or left is not. So a look over to the right or left is normal, looking more to the back (both on the right or left side) is not adding lot, as that is not the blindspot.
+1 you look trough the window next to you. Not the one next to the backseats. That is too far looking over your shoulder
Checking over shoulder is trained on the Dutch driving school. You are told to overdo it, so the examiner can see it. Also on a bike you have to look over your shoulder taking a left turn.
Not doing this is ignorance or lazyness.
:) What I kinda missed was the thing that annoys me a lot here, i.e. that traffic lights are often high on a pole and on your own side of the intersection. In the States they are on the other side or hang in the middle which makes them very visible. But here, esp if you're the first car at the light, you basically have to lay your head on the dash to look up and see if the light up above turns green!
Btw. The person you pass on the right has no right to complain, he/she should not be in the middle/left lane anyway unless overtaking. Driving needlessly left is also a no go and can give you huge fine too... But, the being overtaken left AND right in the States drives me crazy :D
Never seen right-on-red anywhere but the US, maybe Canada? Instead, in several countries where turning right is OK, you'd have a separate lane that bypasses the traffic light.
We have had a few places in The Netherlands where they set up traffic lights in the 'American' way (it's not really American, there are other countries as well), only to find out people would be driving the wrong way, as we usually have traffic lights in front of the junction they secure, instead of passed the junction they secure.
In on the right driving countries priority for equal roads on the right is usually because the driver from the left can see the front passenger side of the car coming from the right side before the driver from the right can see the driver side of the car from the left after any obstruction near the crossing. This is assuming both drivers are seated on the most left seat of their cars, which is the usual default configuration for cars when produced for on the right driving countries. This means the driver that has to give priority can anticipate earlier and has if needed a bit more reaction time available to come to a full stop.
Its based on roundabouts...the right goes first....also if you both come to stop sign first...the person to the right has right if way.
Checking blind spots is completely normal. Especially if people take right over which is not allowed in the Netherlands Unless you are in a lane of another direction. Later go to the right is what I do. I always get upset of they go too early to the right.
You can get a fine for passing on the right. I only do it in a traffic jam or on the roads that allow it (have bigger white blocks between lanes).
not overtaking from the right, makes it eazier, as you only really have to look out for one side. besides, everyone here should drive on the right most lane when possible, if someone is stuck in the middle lane cuz there issnt a space on the right most lane it is normal to give them some space. i dont know who gives weird looks for driving faster in the right lane when middle or left is slow :3
the other lane also closed during an accident is because we like our paramedics and such alive when helping people.
funny how you think that because you have to drive 5 meters more you should have the right of way.
If I didn't look over my shoulder, my driving instructor would yell at me.
Don't try skipping that part on your driving exam in the Netherlands either.
Those who tell you it's not necessary haven't had a something suddenly show up from their blind spot.
You're just doing what you should do, so don't let anyone convince you you can skip it here.
As for right having right of way.
If the rule is the same, regardless of the turns you make, you don't have to pay close attention to turn signals. And turning isn't as time consuming as you might think. Unless you have other traffic that has right of way, of course. But it's the consistency that keeps it clear and simple, just like with our red lights. Right has right of way at unmarked crossings, regardless of drivers' intentions. Because we can't read minds, and we can't always trust that people use their turn signals (you should check the song Pinker by Fleddy Melculy to get an idea of how annoyed we already get when people don't use their turn signals)
And the extra lane closing at busy times is simply because that's when most drivers are in a hurry and a bit more careless.
Maybe, when you find yourself driving faster than the car(s) on your left, you should move to the fastest lane, so you don't overtake cars on the wrong (right) side.
Ben ik niet met je eens. Mensen rijden op de tweede baan ook wanneer de eerste compleet leeg is, die bestuurder zit ook fout. Wanneer ik 100 op de eerste rij en de auto op de tweede gaat langzamer,daar ga ik echt niet omheen
Ben ik het ook niet mee eens. Mensen in Amerika kijken gewoon goed naar rechts voordat ze een baan naar rechts gaan. En ze kijken goed naar links als ze een baan naar links gaan.
De enige reden waarom in Nederland rechts inhalen gevaarlijk is, is omdat we het niet gewend zijn. En omdat we het vanwege de verkeersregels niet verwachten. In Amerika is rechts inhalen echt niet gevaarlijk.
@@womenfrom0202 ik meestal ook niet , maar je moet het wel volgens de regels, irriteer mij mateloos aan bestuurders die niet rechts houden als de rechterbaan vrij is.
@@womenfrom0202 En toch is dat fout. Rechts inhalen mag in zo'n situatie doodeenvoudig niet. Ik heb wel eens een bekeuring gekregen omdat ik te lang links bleef rijden. En terecht! De rechterkant is de primaire kant voor elke weggebruiker. Strikt genomen mag ook een fiets of bromfiets een auto niet rechts inhalen.
We must do something right here, US 2020 38.000 traffic fatalities, in NL 610, if the population would be the same (330 Miljoen against 17 Miljoen) there would be fatalities 11.000 in NL.
That's a little bit overraded. It would be around 2000. (38.000/330 Mio x 17 Mio)
@@flower_power Your right
Funny, that first point of sharing and being forced to keep your attention and limiting your speed around bikes is exactly as intended and clearly it is working :D