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Starmer lied. This is the only time I would give credit to Rishi for not lying.
Yeah but it's easy to say yes to a question like that when you're worth a billion quid . People need to get out of the mindset we only have two choices.
Rishi has his moments of honesty, he’s just a big bender
Edit: of truth
@@jordan3400Thanks for clarifying 😂
Well he was also able to define a "Woman", which I understand is a big deal in gender confused western countries
Rishi just understood that telling the truth is what people wanted to hear in this instance
Starmer gave a political answer. Money is not a problem for both, and if your loved one required emergency treatment you would obviously seek private treatment.
Not necessarily they don't have resus teams and if anything goes wrong during a private surgery you then have to be rushed to an NHS hospital a lot of people don't make it.
No. I had private insurance and used it to jump the long queue. I had to go to some remote hospital, still had to wait for quite a long time for the procedure and Bupa hospital was awful. Never again and I no longer have private insurance, not worth it.
Emergency treatment does not have long waiting list.
Emergency and waiting list are two different situations.
No choice today, my own family members left the NHS, one after 43 years of service. I can not say why on here. I can say that patient care has long gone and is now profit before care.
Starmer should prepare for his families demise if he is telling the truth! It is also no longer the NHS - it should be transparently rebranded as the GHS, global health service that operates within the UK.
At least Sunak was honest
Even poor people will try and use private care
Not all
Yeah even nurses like me who knows about the lack of resources and issues surrounding it
Errr what ???
@@YourballixCongrats on missing the point.
I did cuz i was on the bring of ending myself
Anyone who cared about their family would do anything to get them the care they need. So Imo is clearly lying
He would jump any waiting list and get a private room in the NHS In Ireland a patient was moved from a single room For our Taoiseach at 2am a number of years ago The Powerfull will Allways be prioritised
He did sort of insinuate that he would get special treatment when he mentioned his wife
he’s saying that he supports the nhs and would improve it
@@supersimple1686then that’s even worse
@@phonographradio that’s capitalism buddy
At least Sunak was honest. Every person in the world would pay for quicker help if they could afford it. That doesnt mean we should its just the reality of NHS waiting lists
Ofcourse he was honest. Using tax payers money while loading up on his offshore accounts.
Can't really win then starmer can he? If he'd said yes he would have received criticism for paying what others can't afford.
@@jackd9928if by ‘can’t win’ you mean is he ever not gonna get criticised for his answer? No. As a politician that’s impossible to avoid. Rishi will get called out for using private healthcare, but he gave an honest answer. Starmer gave a clearly dishonest answer to gain political votes by pretending to be virtuous as we all know he would 100% pay for private if a loved one’s life was on the line. Worst of all, he then insinuated he would receive special treatment at the NHS because his wife works there.
@@phonographradio Agree. A lot of Starmer's campaign has appeared to be to just say what people want to hear. Same goes for most of his time in opposition.
honest lol, spose you didnt watch the entire debate
Least rishi was honest - and those who have the money would do anything to protect their families. I certainly do and would
Only if there is no better alternative
lol, if my wife worked at Morrisons it doesn’t mean I’d have to shop there 😅
Funnily enough.. you'd get benefits, discounts and insights..
But fr his answer sounded like he was going to add 'and my brother who cleans floors in the local library'
Liar, of course you would because he can afford it.
Who can afford it?
Normal people can't afford private healthcare
Exactly, at least Rishi is honest
No he has integrity
sunak honest lol ,that's why he got fined for breaching his own covid rules.
This is Labour in a nutshell! Trying to impress with no real substance.
''I will earn your trust'' - Rishi Sunak, Day One
''got other stuff to do'' - Rishi Sunak, D-Day
The point being there shouldn't be long waiting lists. You can thank the tories for that.
Don't be such a prat. Can't really win then can they?
No one is defending rishi sunak here. Labour is known to lie a lot. Starjer even said hes a socialist @Manu-Official
He was asked a question and he answered it. Clown
Sir Kier is in the top 3% of all earners. Should he really be using up NHS resources and contributing to the queues?
The NHS is for everybody, I'll point out that as a high earner more of their income is being used to fund the NHS.
Your rhetoric is only one step away from being "Person X has chosen not to work/pay taxes, should they really be using up NHS resources and contributing to the queues?" (Which I obviously also completely disagree with)
NHS is for all or its for nobody.
The point of free healthcare is to provide the opportunity of healthcare for people who can't afford it. We say it is for all so that it is uncontestable that those people who don't work or can't afford it have the right to free healthcare. So I don't think it is one step away as that "person X" belongs to the income class which is the reason free healtcare exists and needs to exist. Obviously the rich should be allowed to use it too as discriminating on income either way is controversial. But what positive impact would it have. With private healthcare, they'd be shortening waiting lists for the NHS and helping the economy by spending in the private sector. Their greater contribution may make that negative impact on the NHS look smaller in contrast to that contribution but would not change the fact that it is a negative impact nonetheless. You could argue it draws doctors away from the NHS which would be a potential argument but that's not what you're arguing here. @charleslatrom7658
- edit: definitely not a conservative btw
It’s the same resources most of the time, private health just gets you up the line quicker
What an evil comment. The NHS is for every single citizen of this country, rich or poor, working or unemployed. Not to mention his NI payment is higher than yours, his contribution is greater and you question whether he should be allowed to use a system he pays into that is designed to help all people including those that don't pay into it. It's people like you that shouldn't vote or concern yourself with anything about the running of the country
I actually respect Sunak for being honest here.
Who does he think he’s gonna win over by saying that
Bro doesn't understand politic, by saying that he won votes,
@@SAGGGGGGG did he?
@@Darwizzy_9 yes, anyone who will benefit or believe he will do better to decrease the waiting time, those especially who can only afford public hospitals, he just need to be able to maintain that image and he has there votes
A lot of people, I wouldn’t use private health care either.
@@Philljagand why do you have a picture of Dale Cregan as your profile picture ? Do you live in fantasy land and want people to think that's you ? 😂
So Starmer has a net worth of 7m+ and wouldn’t use private healthcare for a loved one?? 🐂 💩
Absolute bullshit isn't it. if anyone had the opportunity to have private health care. You would take it. If your employer provides this as a benefit do you say sorry I'm on the NHS waiting list.. I'll claim ssp instead. You understand don't you?!
Mr. Sunak is a billionaire and doesn't care about normal people who really need the NHS
@@fryerturk127why should people have to go to private health care when the NHS is their to help people but most hospitals have lazy employees thaf just stand around talking to each other it's a disgrace
Have you ever heard of having principles? Probably not
@os3990 What about his environmental policy then proceeds to go in a private jet, that isn't having principles 🤔
I respect Sunak for at least being honest. For what it's worth at this point, he comes across as more sincere and human.
🤡
The best answer is quite clear: "yes, of course I would, but I shouldn't have to, and none of us should have to."
You should consider becoming an MP or at least advising one! That is indeed the best answer!
My wife works in McDonald’s so I only eat Big Macs. What a silly argument.
I’ll do another one
My wife works for rolls Royce so I only will buy a rolls Royce. Cant afford one yet it’s been a pretty tough time with no car for the past 10 years. One day I’ll have the rolls Royce though
Literally the best comment ever😂
MPs should only use NHS ,public transport, tap water and local schools.
Is it a big McDonald's though?
Is your wife working in McDonald's a moral decision though, or is she just useless at everything else?
I don’t believe a word out of his mouth.
You can't believe either of them
Whoever the news and newspapers scrutinise is the person you vote for
If you can't believe a word out of his mouth but believe Sunak, you need mental help.
@jackd9928 what so you think Rishi wouldn't use private healthcare, you're delirious!
@@CricketBoy_ ????
I'm pretty staunchly anti-Tory, but I actually agree with Sunak and disagree with Starmer here. Ultimately, if you're a multi-millionaire I think you have a moral obligation to not put more strain on the NHS if going private isn't going to seriously detrimentally impact upon you
Why are you morally obligated? If you’ve got a well paid job and earned well it’s fair to say you’ve more than paid your way in national insurance
@@BobbySpringer1 for the reasons I just said. If you're wealthy enough that going private and not burdening the NHS has no material impact on yourself or your family, that's ultimately going to be the most beneficial thing for society
I agree, especially if you are saying you care so much about the NHS
Rich people wanting private treatment create the market for private treatment. If you believe in the NHS in principle then you can fairly argue that you wouldn't seek private treatment. There are more viewpoints than you have considered, and this is not the only other one.
@@bertross9727 it’s a natural human trait to seek the best. That’s why people shop around for plumbers, builders, solicitors, accountants, etc
Rishi told the truth and Starmer Lied. If you had the money, you would do it. It's a stupid question. No point in killing a family member to have a sense of moral superiority.
Big Pharma will destroy the NHS so better get your health insurance sorted.
He gulped when he said no 😂
he did that a lot during the labour leadership campaign haha
Starmer is a complete and utter liar!
And Rishi Sunak and the rest of the conservative party always tell the truth
Too bad he's about to become your next PM then isn't it :( vote labour.
And where is your evidence?
I hate starmer
@@jackd9928absolutely not
Sir Keir, he is such an honest guy. He wont use private health care but went to a private school.
Reform.
Farage has said he admires Putin. That sums up Reform and their supporters quite well.
@@carolynm3907😂Fax
Starmer attended Reigate Grammar School, which was a state school when he started his secondary education there. As with any Grammar school, he got into it on merit, by taking the 11+ exam, which is open to all.
@@karmachochi But labour doesn't believe in the grammar schools even though he is proof of their ability to deliver social mobility.
@@karmachochi so I was correct then.
Starmer lied and then tried to justify it
Bollox! How can that clown stand and lie like that? He knows full well he has private medical insurance
He does? Who’s it with?
Really? When did he last use it? When was this information confirmed? Oh, right. You're chatting bollocks.
I’m assuming the two people above me, believe this multimillionaire would rather let his family member die to prove a political point…
So which is it? Is he a disgusting human being, or a liar? Which one?
Because anyone in their right mind would use private healthcare in that position.
What a lie. I would definitely use private if i could afford it. I have a very rare and life-threatening autoimmune disease and have been messed around for 5 years since i was diagnosed at 24. Id absolutely go private if i could because the NHS has become dangerous. Ive been left to have flare ups for months, i almost died and they treated it as if it was a non-emergency. 🤷♂️ took 2 years to finally diagnose me and put me on the correct medication that finally meant i could walk and stand again.
That was thanks to the Tory Vermins deliberate destruction of our NHS!
Crohns Diseaese?
@@atikulhussain7614 Polyarteritis Nodosa
@@atikulhussain7614 no I have PAN. It's called polyarteritis nodosa in full. Comes with other things too like rheumatoid arthritis and IBD. So lots of pain 🤣
@@atikulhussain7614 why are you trying to guess his illness??
Keir Starmer is a compulsive liar. Elsewhere, he said he uses private dentistry.
To be fair dentistry is a bit different. The majority of dentistry is private.
It's not lying, I'm the same, I use the NHS but have a private dentist because I can't get an NHS one!😂
😮 wat!
I don’t know anyone who doesn’t use private dentistry 😂
@@geezer1024I'm lucky enough to still have an NHS dentist but I'm sure it's only a matter of time.
At Least rishi was being honest, tbf I think everyone would if we had the money for it especially with the waiting times as long as they are
Why is it a bad thing to say that if you could afford to give up your space on the waiting list to someone who needs it more is a bad thing?.
Because he (and his party) have run it into the ground and ultimately he is the boss of the NHS.
Imagine your boss running the business into the ground and you ask them ‘would you use our services/product’ and they say NO 😂 WHY WOULD YOU WORK THERE? WHY SHOULD THEY BE THE BOSS 😂😂
@@iamjackbrown1Except only the Tories have run it into the ground. Labour’s presided over record high patient satisfaction levels and record low waiting lists, which all changed after the Tories got in in 2010
@@iamjackbrown1 does the CEO of Iceland have to shop at Iceland then?
Because, "look peasants, I'm just like one of you.".
Starmer did quite poorly in this debate, he kept talking about how Truss ruined the economy, no one cares about her anymore
Maybe he's to offer Sunak a job 😂
Just like how the Tories love to bring up Corbyn.
@@DarkCreedtobe fair sunak has never spoken about corbyn, nobody cares about him besides Sky reporters and Angela Rayner for some reason
Economics for dummies here : because the mortgage rate for those coming off fixed rates will be heading their way shortly and Truss fkd. up international confidence in Britain which led to hikes in borrowing.Britain depends upon the kindness of strangers to fund its debt and the jackass Tories have destroyed external investment confidence in this country . The message to overseas investors is that Britain is closed for business exiting its largest export market the EU,shutting the door to qualified migrants but focussing only on keeping Clacton white only and living in the 1950's.
Exactly
What a liar lmao hes got the money he would go private no questions asked.
If your loved ones could die before our NHS got to them & you had money to save them - then you'd save them - so is he a liar or just callous? Both are just as bad. 🇬🇧🏴🏴
Liar wouldn't trust him.
And would trust the urther 😂
That’s the quickest response I’ve ever heard from a politician yes or no instead of keep pivoting like they usually do. Just shows they can say yes and no straight away.
We all know Starmer would say yes if he was being honest. And the best answer is quite clear: "yes, I would, but I shouldn't have to."
Absolutely ridiculous. He would let his family suffer although he could stop that…for what? To win an election 😂😂😂
If you believe Starmer, you’ll believe anything. What a sausage!
VAT on private healthcare will be next focus for Labour. They will say those who go private are rich and shouldn’t be getting a tax break.
Harley street - mri scan £250 - 2 day waiting list. Scan received with report on day. After paying in 9% of my salary for 25 yrs, waiting 1.5yrs to be seen for a back complaint. Then admitted by nhs for instant surgery as they were complicit. I would prefer to share my n.i. contributions, all these years paying in to help others! Shared system is the way.
@@fryerturk127Yep I back this, got an MRI scan and a full diagnosis on Harley street the same day I went for a check up at a private hospital. £150.
75% of UK employers now provide medical health insurance as a work bebefit but no one claims on that as they rather go nhs and wait for hrs
Kier is a LIAR
That lie just decided my vote.
Don't lie, you just wanted an excuse to vote Tory.
I agree, and it's with neither of them.
Reform guys!!!!
@@SirSX3 exactly. Rishi: lies on the daily. Starmer: also lies on the daily. Dude clearly just wants to vote Tory or Reform - and the fact that he needs to cover it up instead of just saying it, says a lot about him 😂
Fwiw Im either abstaining or going yellow 🎉
Lies bother you?
Everyone knows what they would pick if they could afford it. This just shows who is being genuine and who is lying.
You mean who is lying and also who usually lies
This country’s politics is just embarrassing… regardless of what happens in this election, things won’t change
You're like one of 5 people who knows
Being a politician that uses private healthcare, private transport and private education for their children is like owning a restaurant and saying you're too good to eat the food served there. 😂
Mr Stammer, see himself as ordinary citizen he relates with the common people that he leads. Surely, that shouldn’t be a crime.
PM Rishi Sunak is Honest in his answer. This is the hallmark of a good leader
Imagine not wanting to help your loved ones 😂 and people are actually going to vote for that clown!!!!
Everyone on the NHS wishes they can go fast forward on private healthcare but they can't. Unlike Rushi Sunak family
I wouldn’t go private either?
@Philljag that wasn't the question..... the question was to help a loved one who needed it.... and he said no 🤦 if it was my only option to save my child or my partners lives it would be a big YES!
@@reganhumphreys5221 I wouldnt go private either means I wouldn’t pay private for a child either?
My dad had cancer and started receiving treatment the next day with the nhs, you do realise if one hospital is full you can ask to go to another hospital?
@Philljag you are completely missing the point arnt you? The question is IF you have to WOULD you....
LOL The mans a fool.
If this was a boxing match Starmer was KOd in the first round red faced and rattled.
"if you felt that that was the only way forward"
- "no"
Keir Starmer, You are wealthy enough to have private healthcare. Absolutely disgraceful! You prevent someone who is in desperate need and would not be able to afford private healthcare to get the treatment they deserve. Speaks for itself.
Reform all the way
vote reform, get Labour
@@radicalrodriguez5912 listen mate, I don’t like Labour’s current state, but they’re definitely not fascists like the Reform party 😂
Voting for fascists
@@CaspyEdits what?
@@radicalrodriguez5912Better that than the Tories any day
Good old No Health service. Denied me care for decades.
This doesn’t even paint him in a good light anyway, he’s wealthy enough to use private healthcare and yet wastes taxpayers money by using public healthcare unnecessarily and to his own inconvenience?
Only one Tory was telling the truth here and it wasn't Starmer
For reference, my private health and dental in the England costs me 16£ a month. (I have had it since before there was an issue because it’s so cheap) I paid 380£ in National insurance last month. Why should anyone have to use the NHS, which costs more than National Insurance (this is what tax you pay to use it if you work (if you refuse to work you still get to use it)).
Stupid policy
The national inurance also pays for your pension as well as for the NHS
Private healthcare waiting lists are just as long, because its the same doctors.
Definitely not you go to a private hospital for a start and the care is 100 times better
When they're working in the NHS, the doctors pop in once a week. When they have a private patient, the doctors are there every moment they can charge for.
His wife works in the NHS puts his treatment on top of the list no need to wait👍
Absolutely nothing wrong with using private healthcare if you have the money. This is symptomatic of what we'll get with a Labour government: disdain of success, taxes ramped up, your pensions and savings targeted, all the wealth will leave the country, big state telling you what to think and do.
Starmer cares as much about his family as his country.
The man who thinks its acceptable to deny children of food and water
Get over it bud. Labour are in, Tories are out.
@@jackd9928you seem to like the idea of starving children
@@beelzeboss42When did Sir Keir Starmer unveil the big red child starvation that he’s apparently going to push when he becomes Prime Minister?
People think Starmer is lying. The NHS is so corrupt from the top down his loved one would never be on a waiting list
I'm so glad he mentioned his wife works in a hospital. It didn't sink in the first 500 times he mentioned it. Now I know his wife works in a hospital.
Ha ha, of course YES
You can tell Rishi has never struggled with money.
Nor has Starmer 😂😂😂
@@Wil-nh5kzDude grew up in poverty and you think he’s never struggled 💀
@@Randomguy-kz7skwhat world are you in? His father a “tool maker” ran the fecking factory! Never spend a day in poverty in his life!
@@kohtimeSo what? Tony Blair never languished in poverty, nor did Clement Attlee or Harold Wilson, and yet they were the greatest Labour prime ministers in the history of this country and enormously popular in their heyday and through their legacies (barring obvious exceptions like Iraq). Clement Attlee was the son of an earl for gods sake, and because of him we have a National Health Service.
@@dominicchallis2928 did they claim to struggle growing up? Did they profess to relate to the public? The idiocy of it lies in the illusion he is creating! He takes us for mugs!
The best answer but "yes but my aim is to restore the NHS to the point where I don't have to"
That tells you he would not let the British people have a choice either, even if their lives depended on it. It’s the government’s way, or no way. End of story.
bro really loves his family if he’s trusting the nhs with their lives
No today, Yes tomorrow. Like all Labour, anything for a vote.
Exactly its obvious they all use private, at least Sunak was honest that time
At least Rishi Sunak is honest enough to say he would use Private Health care.
99.9% of the population would do whatever it takes to care for their family.
In an ideal world we would have a choice of Private or NHS but we haven't lived in an ideal world for many years!
Dentist would be nice
Haven’t had NHS dentist in the last 40 years, none around where I live
2 weak puppets
If you believe, as I think Starmer believes, that it is immoral to jump the queue for access to medical care because you can afford it, he gave the right answer. If Sunak believes that wealth gives you privilege, then Sunak gave the right answer. There is no right answer. Only a moral one and an immoral one.
The biggest lie
Who can afford private healthcare?? Tell me Mr Prime Minister??
My company offers money towards it if you want it.
Have u seen how cheap it is?
@fryerturk127 It's really expensive
Between £12 and £25 a week. That's pretty good in my opinion but I'm too late onto the scheme due to other ailments.
Both these people have money that why she ask
We all go private. All we need 1000% pay rises🤣🤣🤣
Starmer putting more stress on the nhs when he can afford to pay privately, what does that say about you.
Two clowns debating each other.
Vague Starmer.
They’re right about people like you
Him using nhs when he can use private is putting a bigger stress on the NHS. What a doughnut
I earn quite a reasonable amount of money and I needed heart surgery this year and waited 6 weeks and had 2 surgeries both on the NHS. I make large donations to the NHS and both my parents worked in the NHS. HELL NO would I support private health care. My aunt died, again quite wealthy of Covid on a NHS ward. We come from WORKING CLASS AND IT DOESNT LEAVE
Atleast Sunak was Hones 😂
Rishi is an awful person
Why?
And you know him personally Starmer a clown
@@mikecook1537 I mean he's had the opportunity to do anything to fix the country and he hasn't even remotely tried.
@@os3990 he's kept corporation tax low for smaller businesses. He's increased the vat threshold. He's allowed people to invest up to £20k per year tax free.
These are huge benefits which allow people to keep more of their own money.
@@mikecook1537 he's increased taxes. Made immigration worse. Rwanda plan costs £1.8m EACH PERSON. NHS is failing. All our tax money going to his dodgy mates in government contracts. Honestly please respond because I am shocked people don't care about this stuff?
As an American, I'd most definitely vote Reform this time.
If you can afford private health leave the NHS for those who cannot.
At least Sunak is telling the truth.
At least rishi was the honest one here. ... I don't believe kier for a second
Of course he would. Anybody who could afford it would use private healthcare. It also frees up space for the less well off.
Clogging up the NHS when you can help yourself 😢
If he cares so little of his own family. He would care even less about the UK. I don't trust that man at all.😡
starmer is THE biggest liar, can we get his health records
At least rishi was honest
Of course you’d use private healthcare if you had the option
Saying NO is completely absurd
Starmer obviously is not truthful.
‘Would you help your loved one if you could’
‘No.’
About the only true thing Keir has said.
Starmer can't help himself. He lies for fun.
Definitely use private healthcare if you’ve got the money why not! Also it frees up the space for other patients!!
And this is why more people trust conservative’s
The existence of liars makes you trust other liars?
@@DisgruntledPeasant the biggest lie iv seen from a Tory is one from being ill informed. This is a pure intentional lie. Big difference.
Pretty sure this is the first time a politician has told the truth in about 3 years
Rishi told the truth, it’s what he would do. Starmer completely lied!
The way he said “ yes” was proud of his decision 👍 at least he is honest
Another Starmer lie.
He may not use private care now but as PM. Is he going to jump the queue or get fixed and run the country. The guy's thick or lying, take your pick