Fake Martial Arts vs Natural Instincts - Are Natural Reactions Better Than Bullshido?

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  • Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024

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  • @FightCommentary
    @FightCommentary  2 года назад +39

    Shoutout viewer Sov Ciel for giving me a concept called the Spear System by Tony Blauer. I heard about this years before too on Shane Fazen's channel: www.youtube.com/@tonyblauer
    Sov said this about the SPEAR System:
    By nature we do this. Reflex and arms up.
    My son is so good on getting away from my holds and grabs by using his weight like it's so hard to lift him sometimes.
    Haha
    I replied to him:
    Yeah. It's so funny. I got stories I'll tell you more in depth another time. But briefly, I remember one time I tried putting another kungfu friend in a standing choke (this was when I was young in my kungfu days). By instinct, he just rammed his hip into my balls. I was like, "Wow, didn't know the glutes could be used as a weapon like that." Or like you said, trying to put someone into a full nelson and having them just slip out of it so easily if they drop their weight and wiggle correctly. Again, I didn't know anything about grappling as a kid, so the way I went about grappling probably mimics that of an untrained attacker. I will say the human instinct is much more prepared under the right circumstance (and against the right untrained attacker).
    Sov's reply:
    True true.
    Try carrying a kid who doesn't want to leave, they feel like sacks of rice haha.
    Also observe how they know how to use their forearms to push you away. Especially when they use it to jam your neck
    ~~~
    Do you like this idea of getting people's natural reactions and comparing them to the effectiveness of bullshido techniques? Let me know! What modifications/variations do you recommend? Also, here's a sequel to this: ruclips.net/video/_dlmkNFmeHQ/видео.html

    • @atomic_wait
      @atomic_wait 2 года назад +4

      This would definitely help answer the question of 'are these instructions worse than having no instructions at all?'

    • @cahallo5964
      @cahallo5964 2 года назад +4

      it's a subject worth studying!

    • @kevinlobos5519
      @kevinlobos5519 2 года назад +4

      It's a very Interesting and fun idea. Wouldn't mind if you made more videos like this

    • @Lasombrosidad
      @Lasombrosidad 2 года назад +2

      I have an idea, is possible to develop self defense skills just practicing different types of combat using fast and light attacks that gives you the opportunity of accumulate experience. I have a system of 23 exercises that cover all the distances of combat including weapons, the only problem is to have a partner, because each exercise needs a partner.
      Is like a system of various types of light sparring. The teaching of techniques is not the main works, the focus is on instinctive combat.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      @@Lasombrosidad what's your system called?

  • @TheMATEMAGICIAN
    @TheMATEMAGICIAN 2 года назад +54

    Jerry the moustashe looks amazing combine that with the shaved head and it gives u the misterious kung fu master vibe ftw

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +23

      HAHAHAH ;) Cool! I might wear monk robes in a video just to fit the look!

  • @hard2hurt
    @hard2hurt 2 года назад +50

    This is a really interesting conversation to have. Lots of people claim that poor training is worse than no training. I think there's just so many variables that it's an impossible thing to _know_ for certain. Some people are naturally more comfortable and adept at violence than others... their untrained instincts will be more effective than someone who is very timid and weak. Would watching a video of some terrible technique make them less capable? I doubt it. And if they were already incapable, it likely won't make them worse. There is a huge component of my position that most of the critics are missing though... and that's that any asshole who is delusional and stupid enough to try something after watching a video was likely such a delusional, stupid asshole that they would have done something terrible and stupid without watching a video. I think this is the disconnect between martial artists who are stuck in their own perspective and people who can't fight at all watching youtube videos about fighting.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +19

      Yeah, I was thinking about this more after talking to a few more friends, and I thought about some more aspects of self defense that I didn't really mention in this video. One is general fitness level, which can also be expanded to what you said about "comfort and adept at violence." Some people just are more ready to strike or grapple. Some people are more ready to run. So this type of test would have to have more variables. For example, a person who is active and a person who is not active. Then bullshido vs instinct. So we should have a 2 by 2 table to document the results. This is getting me thinking. Time to get more volunteers in the next one!

    • @riskybitness
      @riskybitness 2 года назад +2

      Mike, I love the way you think, man. You've got a gift for seeing things objectively.

    • @lamesurfer1015
      @lamesurfer1015 2 года назад +4

      Natural aptitude is a thing.
      My 30lbs, 3 year old daughter can wrestle my 70lbs pitbull to the ground. She instinctively frames, posts, sprawls, and taps/traps the poor dog's legs. She pins naturally. I've taught her nothing. She just "knows." She has an unusual level of aggression compared to girls her age. As we speak, my wife is yelling "Get off the dog!"
      My 6 year old son is about average, and will often just shirk away from my dog when he wants to wrestle. He's more hesitant and awkward when it comes to getting into scraps. My daughter has been warned not to headbutt people. Sometimes, I worry.
      Can this stuff be trained? Sure. But there is an innate element to it.

    • @samgomez2088
      @samgomez2088 2 года назад

      @@lamesurfer1015 I will subscribe to your channel if you upload a video of your 3 year old wrestling your dog like that 🤣🤣🤣

    • @lamesurfer1015
      @lamesurfer1015 2 года назад +1

      @@samgomez2088 Hahahah I'll let you know when I upload. Gotta make sure my daughter weighs in and gets tested for PEDs in the meantime.

  • @theultimatek.i.m.m1504
    @theultimatek.i.m.m1504 2 года назад +16

    Pepper Potts "invented wing chun"!😂😂😂 Man, I love your vids, sincere truth and info, and sense of humor! Keep on! And thanks!
    And, yes!! More of THIS stuff!

  • @TheTuff199
    @TheTuff199 2 года назад +17

    Jerry, we're a bunch of dudes on the internet watching martial arts videos, OF COURSE we want to see more of the fiesty and attractive hippy chick throwing hands 🤣
    Actually though, she's great. She had great energy and you both had really good chemistry. Also, she actually put effort into it and took it seriously enough to actually try. So yeah, man, bring her back on sometime!

  • @hard2hurt
    @hard2hurt 2 года назад +7

    Wow... without glasses you look like the first bad guy who is already harassing the hero at the beginning of the movie.

  • @nigelcox-hagan6820
    @nigelcox-hagan6820 2 года назад +15

    I think a big part of the reason your friend has natural instincts is that she is athletic. Very quick, relaxed, knows how to move her body with structure and purpose. I was actually most impressed by the way she escaped your hold by just relaxing in a swift, controlled way. Most adults (myself included) would tense up initially.

  • @rohitchaoji
    @rohitchaoji 2 года назад +22

    4:07 that was a very impressive close range head kick for someone who doesn't train in martial arts. Of course her yoga experience gave her that mobility but still impressive nonetheless.

  • @kidd32888
    @kidd32888 2 года назад +8

    What a great idea of a video and also enjoy you guys having so much fun making this.

  • @alfredsparman5165
    @alfredsparman5165 2 года назад +5

    Really good video Jerry. It's a different perspective

  • @OneNvrKnoz
    @OneNvrKnoz 2 года назад +5

    What an awesome friend to be willing to do this with you!

  • @jaeyoungkang5951
    @jaeyoungkang5951 2 года назад +22

    This video brings up an interesting point. Each and every martial art had to have been created at some point in human history (most likely a point in human history more violent than today). The ancestors who first discovered these moves had nothing to go off of except their instincts and what they found worked best every time they got into a fight. I think that's definitely an important thing to consider when examining martial arts moves. Bad martial arts moves don't look like something a caveman could have thought of doing, and good martial arts principles are found throughout nature, by a variety of living organisms that don't deliberate as much as humans do (as just one example, a variety of animals besides humans want to wrestle in a fight).
    Maybe that's what animal kung fu should really be...thinking of the instinctive ways different animals fight, and trying to think of which instinctive principles apply to human fighting as well.

    • @chrisnguyen1186
      @chrisnguyen1186 2 года назад

      Don't want to be hit in the face? Cover your face.
      Want to "show" that bullshito is the best? Don't cover your face because your chi power will protect you.

    • @jaeyoungkang5951
      @jaeyoungkang5951 2 года назад +1

      @Rip Tide And that's my point, animal Kung Fu at this point is purely an art form, but what it should be is people figuring out effective combat movements that look like something animals would do. For example, it would be nice if someone invented "Crocodile-Style Kung Fu" and the style is wrestling (Alligators and crocodiles are some of nature's best wrestlers imao). Or if someone invented "Kangaroo-Style Kung Fu" and the style is kickboxing.

    • @Mrraerae
      @Mrraerae 2 года назад

      @@jaeyoungkang5951 muay thai clinch fighting is "kangaroo kung fu"
      Thai fighters exchanging knees in the clinch looks VERY similar to two kangaroos fighting.
      And a human wrestling match looks A LOT like two bears fighting. They push each other with their heads, fight for underhooksz all that shit.

  • @kaneda956
    @kaneda956 2 года назад +5

    my daughter also goes jujitsu on me.. she always bridges and rolls and crawls away when im trying to change her lolz.

    • @JulianoB
      @JulianoB 2 года назад

      As a kid when I would get into fights, I always knew to tuck and lower my chin when someone tried to choke me. A lot of our instincts are good.

  • @mattdowds8505
    @mattdowds8505 2 года назад +9

    We need more of this for sure!

  • @midnightmosesuk
    @midnightmosesuk 2 года назад +3

    You're right and it's something I've said for a while too. Teaching young ladies techniques which don't actually work is dangerous. Building self confidence and self esteem are great but that can also lead to overconfidence which might result in people engaging in risky behaviour that they wouldn't do otherwise. The best self defence technique is to not get yourself in to a dangerous situation in the first place, the second best is to run away if you can.

  • @Domzdream
    @Domzdream 2 года назад +5

    I love what you were say there Jerry. And it just bolsters my opinion on Aikido and to a large extent kung fu, where people forget the simplicity of movement, over-complicate defences/attacks, and people always! end up disappointed with their style, or themselves. It's not their fault as students, not knowing how to react to attacks. The key is always to keep it as simple as possible, and just repeat those simple techniques to a point where you react accordingly due to continuous repetition.
    When you look at Aikido, it looks amazing when you see these students in class. But when you see it being applied to real scenarios, people turn it into a pile of crap, and end up defeated every single time. Now. Compare it to an effective style like BASIC karate, or Muay Thai, Boxing, Wrestling, Judo.....these styles always are effective becuase they are simple.
    I mean, even Bruce Lee once said - when it comes to fighting, the fight gets reduced to a simple front kick, front punch. Didnt even mention the Mawashigeri roundhouse kick.
    Keep it simple people! That's where the magic lies.

  • @zhanibek_kk
    @zhanibek_kk 2 года назад +1

    Great video. You see this with guys just getting into legitimate martial arts as well - they're so obsessed with doing the moves right that when they go live they forget to just be aggressive and focus on the objective.

  • @Groomsman
    @Groomsman 2 года назад +6

    Pink suit lady looks like she belongs on the set of a Hong Kong movie

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +6

      Maybe that's her long play! She wants to get cast in a movie with her choreography ;)

  • @hankwatt
    @hankwatt 2 года назад +3

    Keep these coming! 🙌

  • @danielburgess7785
    @danielburgess7785 2 года назад +6

    1. Fight or Flight that is the bare bones reaction.
    2. Will Flight get me quickly away from perceived danger. If not...
    3. Can I inflict enough damage so #2 becomes a viable option.
    Everything else is technique or window dressing.

  • @aswinmannepalli3212
    @aswinmannepalli3212 2 года назад +6

    More of this content please!

  • @faikhozen5963
    @faikhozen5963 2 года назад +2

    great stuff, jerry
    i always find your stuff entertaining
    glad your stuff comes on my rec first

  • @Domzdream
    @Domzdream 2 года назад +4

    haha, I Love the name -bullshido. It just cracks me up.

  • @cahallo5964
    @cahallo5964 2 года назад +14

    I believe that the most effective martial arts are the one that rely in our instincts, explosivity and reflexes, in fact, blocks, long guards, pinnings and painholds are all instinctual things, we just hone them and modify them slightly to fit our needs.
    Of course this is an overgeneralisation but in principle I believe it to be true.

    • @FirstLast-yj1hp
      @FirstLast-yj1hp 2 года назад +2

      Against a drunk or a regular joe yeah lol

    • @alimmia223
      @alimmia223 2 года назад +5

      It depends on situation, and depends on the person as well. sometimes effective, sometimes bad.

    • @1individeo
      @1individeo 2 года назад +2

      Yes but you need to train your instincts. Modifying slightly is not enough. Just like in any sport or activity. Talent or instincts if not trained over and over again most of the time it wont work. There is no place where natural instincts are more tested than in the military and the more and hardest soldiers train the better they become plus they even earn more instincts than they would have if not trained. Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson, Khabib or Phelps all had to work their ass off to become as good. Of course they had natural instincts or talent but modifign slightly would never made them what they are. The same goes to martial arts or even to fighting

  • @themilesinkorea
    @themilesinkorea 2 года назад +4

    Jerry, the young lady and you have a wonderful energy going there and the natural reactions from you both are very effective on camera. Definitely great to get back to some basics to work out what’s happening with self-defense.
    A story: Two old friends of mine were confronted one day. One had years of martial arts training, the other girl was raised in a very nice Christian family. The first girl froze and the second “girl slapped” and got rid of them (first girl’s term, or thereabouts). Decades ago, and I think the first woman’s still humbly surprised (I bumped into her not so long ago).
    You look like you’re on another winning track here!

  • @WhenYouveGoneGuru
    @WhenYouveGoneGuru 2 года назад +2

    Clearly the secret to self-defense is to have your choreographer make you the winner.

    • @JulianoB
      @JulianoB 2 года назад +1

      Choreographers make so much money too!

  • @letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo
    @letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo 2 года назад +2

    i'm already inculcating bjj into my 3 year old daughter, i put her in a seat belt grip, guard and rnc hold , and i tell her to escape, she pushes and pulls , and now she tries to break my pinky finger. im so proud

  • @davin4811
    @davin4811 2 года назад +2

    Honestly i think she is really impressive for being able to do those kind of movements while using a high heels like that

  • @АртёмКондратьев-б9ч
    @АртёмКондратьев-б9ч 2 года назад +2

    Yeah, I'd definitely like to see more! It's very curious to see what an untrained person would do

  • @dirtedirte8771
    @dirtedirte8771 2 года назад +2

    It’s cool to see her gain confidence as she learns to trust instinct

  • @geryquin4214
    @geryquin4214 2 года назад +2

    I love it! exploring instincts is awesome! and Madeline was smart and amazing. That being said though, i'm not sure aboy the zero martial arts training. You said she teaches Yoga? and is into crystals? thats already plenty of knowledge on body movment mechanics and pressure points. Though not a martial art technically, i would consider it as so, something maybe right under Qi Gong or Tai Chi: being in tune with your chi and understanding anatomy, which is something crucial for any martial artist.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      Yeah, you make a very good point that I expanded on in my reply to icy Mike's comment that I pinned. I think it would be cool to do more tests like this but vary the fitness level of the person. So there will be a four person test potentially.

  • @winterwonderlandiful5295
    @winterwonderlandiful5295 2 года назад +5

    Shes cuter than Gwyneth Paltrow

  • @ummonk
    @ummonk 2 года назад +7

    I've said before that Aikido is actually harmful to people because it trains away natural instincts like aggression and resistance.

    • @tacticaltemplar875
      @tacticaltemplar875 2 года назад +2

      Agreed. Aikido is one of the only martial arts that will actually make you worse at fighting.

  • @TheTuita
    @TheTuita 2 года назад +3

    Haha, Jerry meets a nice lady on Tinder and immediately asks "So, do you wanna fight me?"

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +3

      That would be hilarious to lead with that on Tinder. How's that app these days?

  • @blessedrichboi
    @blessedrichboi 2 года назад +4

    Very beautiful training partner.

  • @NPM_15
    @NPM_15 2 года назад +4

    Now I want one of this with master Wong XD

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +3

      That would be cool! See how some of his ukes react naturally when told not to follow a script!

  • @bestthingsinceslicedrice
    @bestthingsinceslicedrice 2 года назад +3

    This demonstration reminds me of my friends experience in an Aikido Dojo where his opponent was trying to do a fancy leg sweep and when he saw that instinctively he backed up then kicked the guy in the head.
    Then when the master saw what he did, he was told not to do that since its not what Aikido is all about.
    When he heard that the next day he dropped out of the class

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +2

      Good thing he left. Those mcdojos drive me crazy!

    • @jamesfrankiewicz5768
      @jamesfrankiewicz5768 2 года назад

      Interesting. Leg sweeps aren't much of a thing in Aikido. The only one I've encountered (in nine years of training) is only useful if the opponent is rapidly approaching you; the timing is indeed hard to get correct on that one. I could see the scenario playing out, but the teacher's reaction is certainly different than my own teacher's reaction would be (he loves it when a newbie does something "unorthodox" and uses it as a teaching point for those of us who have been training for a while).

    • @bestthingsinceslicedrice
      @bestthingsinceslicedrice 2 года назад

      @@jamesfrankiewicz5768 well this was back in the late 80s when this happened. Back then when I was in martial arts too, the so called masters I had where too fixated on form so you can impress judges in tournaments.
      Because of that when I got into a fight I got my ass beat since I was expecting they will fight under the same rules and there would be no grabbing.
      And that was also the predicament my friend had, so when he saw the same bs teaching. He left because we both have experienced getting beat up w.o rules inloved.
      Mind you we where in South East Asia where theres no such thing as 1 on 1 and the fights are downright dirty

  • @TheAustinDelgado
    @TheAustinDelgado 2 года назад +2

    Love this video would like to see more like this

  • @kobayashimaruaikiken
    @kobayashimaruaikiken 2 года назад +1

    I want more!!! Very nice concept!!!

  • @Gieszkanne
    @Gieszkanne 2 года назад +1

    Bald with beard you look like „Kodijack" in Mad Mission lol X )

  • @Auriflamme
    @Auriflamme 2 года назад +3

    What you have to realise is that the Chinese woman's techniques are specifically for defending yourself from catty male hairdressers. They can be very clingy, never let go, and once you subdue them they will give you an amazing haircut for that epic hair-flip as you walk away.

  • @alimmia223
    @alimmia223 2 года назад +5

    Running is the best natural self defense reaction...safer too. haha

  • @mtbalot
    @mtbalot 2 года назад +3

    No man don't stop, this is gold. I cant stand fake BS cos i work in engineering, which is simple common sense mostly.
    Reality is not personal opinion hahaha or is it?

    • @12feettall6
      @12feettall6 2 года назад +2

      Your reality is just like Bullshido. We live in a matrix lol

    • @mtbalot
      @mtbalot 2 года назад

      Hahahaaaaaa

  • @akmil02
    @akmil02 2 года назад +2

    Instincts used the right way are great.

  • @simoneriksson8329
    @simoneriksson8329 2 года назад +3

    You should bring all three girls back. Tuen you should start sending them around the world to fight crime. They will be "Jerrys Angels"! ;)

  • @shawandrew
    @shawandrew 2 года назад +1

    Using your instincts is the first step in developing an effective martial art. The next step is analyzing and improving what you found works best. Then pressure test and repeat.

  • @kuobumbum
    @kuobumbum 2 года назад +1

    Great video, enjoyed it!

  • @marcusmjx740
    @marcusmjx740 2 года назад +2

    SPEARS system by Tony Blauer actually uses basic human flinch reactions to help them in their moves.

  • @2012listo
    @2012listo 2 года назад

    Jerry, come on, full Fu Manchu! You would ROCK that look! But you ain't my puppet, and I appreciate you as-is. Keep up the good work.

  • @seangilmore3901
    @seangilmore3901 2 года назад +5

    Hard to Hurt.... shots fired 😄

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +4

      Big fan of him. Just presenting another view.

    • @seangilmore3901
      @seangilmore3901 2 года назад +4

      Only one thing to do now. Icy Mike dresses up like you and does an impression video of you and then you 2 do a sparring collaboration 🙏🙏🙏🤞

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +2

      @@seangilmore3901 I'm really curious how IcyMike would do an impression of me. What part of me stands out to people? That's always so fun to find out. Different people will cling to different quirks and details ;) If you ever have an impression of me, definitely send it! I'll feature it if it's passable, so no pressure!

  • @shadowfighter6445
    @shadowfighter6445 2 года назад

    Thats why I don't look up self defense techniques, but instead I look up martial art techniques, just some basics to keep me in shape.
    Thank you for sharing ☺️.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад

      You accidentally commented five times, so I just kept one comment from you. Thanks for your comment!

    • @shadowfighter6445
      @shadowfighter6445 2 года назад

      @@FightCommentary really, cause I was having trouble sending the comment, I thought I was lucky that I sent one.
      Sorry Jerry, I did not mean for that to happen.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      @@shadowfighter6445 No worries. I've been there and done that :) Facebook used to be the platform that would give me that error ;) I barely use it anymore. In fact, funny story, I only use Facebook now to connect with other martial artists. It's solely for networking. Whereas I actually use LinkedIN like how people use Facebook. I'm sure LinkedIn connections aren't pleased.

  • @RandomStephan
    @RandomStephan 2 года назад +2

    Love it!

  • @richardchampion8217
    @richardchampion8217 2 года назад +3

    very good

  • @kevinlobos5519
    @kevinlobos5519 2 года назад +3

    Yea I'm not 100% onboard with Mike's take on this matter either. I have a former friend that trained MMA under some idiot that trained for a few months and thought he was hot sh*t. The dude taught her an escape from a rear naked choke that quoting her was about "muscling your way out of it because there isn't any other way". She hurt her back practicing that, tore a muscle or something. It was so bad she was left with some permanent issues. Saying that bullshido literally kills people might be an hyperbole, but people can get hurt for real while doing stupid sh*t, which happens all the time in bullshido practice. Another examples come to mind like those people that do chin conditioning or DK Yoo hitting his students full force when wearing helmets.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      Yeah, I didn't even think about all the cringe chin conditioning stuff we see. And the hitting students in motorcycle helmets done by Yu Dajiong ;) Like you said, a lot more people practice bullshido that we probably wish, and some of them do it often enough to get hurt.

  • @user-ve4ld2sq3n
    @user-ve4ld2sq3n Год назад

    Madeleine is a star. Awesome job buying in and just going for it.

  • @junichiroyamashita
    @junichiroyamashita 2 года назад +2

    Is that woman Dutch? She gives me Dutch vibes. Btw, there was a self defence instructor here in my country that advocated a natural self defence style,literaly called Wilding: Istinctive Self Defence.

  • @keima1110
    @keima1110 2 года назад +2

    have you try master wong's stuff?

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      Another viewer requested that, so I will definitely do one on that. I'm friends with Michael Wong on Facebook. I want to get an interview with him soon too!

    • @keima1110
      @keima1110 2 года назад

      @@FightCommentary can you also speak cantonese like he did. 😁

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      @@keima1110 Maybe I can do a collab with Sifu Redmond where we look at Master Wong stuff. Sifu Redmond speaks great Cantonese.

  • @jacobhenson5608
    @jacobhenson5608 2 года назад +2

    I've never had proper training, but every fight I've been in happens too fast to think for the most part. Instinct works.

  • @jeremiahshine
    @jeremiahshine 2 года назад +2

    Wait until a bit of wine is pumped into your training partner! The switch is visible.

  • @_jade_rebel_
    @_jade_rebel_ 2 года назад

    We definitely need more of this.
    Also, now I wanna see untrained people fight bullshido "masters."

  • @RA-lh9uh
    @RA-lh9uh 2 года назад +1

    cool stuff. try that with a kid too

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      That's a cool idea. I'll find a friend who has a kid who would be down to try some stuff. It would be fascinating. At what age would a kid lose some of his reflexes? I think about this because I remember two fights I got into as a kid where I kind of bicycle kicked on the ground because I was not ready to stand up when the person came at me. Naturally, I seemed to know that the legs can be used as a frame and shield. Nobody told me that. So what other natural instincts does a kid have that could be used to make them progress in whatever martial art even faster (instead of unlearning good stuff to learn potentially better stuff).

  • @HARDDEEPSIGNnIjjar
    @HARDDEEPSIGNnIjjar 2 года назад +4

    You're a lucky man

  • @F1nalB0zz
    @F1nalB0zz 2 года назад +2

    volcanos, bruh 😂

  • @hunger4wonder
    @hunger4wonder Год назад +2

    The way she started chain punching and trapping the arm, just out of instinct, is actually a bit impressive!

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  Год назад +1

      Yeah. I want to get her back in a video, but she’s busy doing her yoga girl travels 😂😂 Sweet girl, just needs a purpose. Imagine if she spent some time learning martial arts. She’d be a natural.

    • @hunger4wonder
      @hunger4wonder Год назад +1

      @@FightCommentary i think so too. She is already athletic and agile (that kick 👏), she seems like she already has a good natural fighting instinct, just needs that training.

  • @michaelcook2290
    @michaelcook2290 2 года назад +4

    Jerry, you've missed a major advantage of "Bullshido" over natural instincts, something that you can't replicate in the setting you test in.
    Once you've spent over $1k on a Bullshido course there is no way in hell you're going to have wasted that money, you'll Bullshido the heck out of your assailant.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      I never thought about that, but you might have something there. The person who spent so much money learning bullshido might fight very hard to justify the money ;)

  • @shahrahman904
    @shahrahman904 2 года назад +1

    Love to see your thoughts and experiment on Krav maga if its bullshido or not

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      That's a good one! We'll test some Krav Maga soon. Guess I'll have to wear a cup!

    • @shahrahman904
      @shahrahman904 2 года назад +2

      @@FightCommentary well if its bullshido you won't need it lol

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      @@shahrahman904 Send me some clips please!

  • @JohnSmith-ty2he
    @JohnSmith-ty2he 2 года назад +1

    Have to put the obligatory "cute gal" in here.
    Don't judge.

  • @tinybike
    @tinybike 2 года назад +2

    Should ask Madeleine on again, she's a natural!

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      We almost filmed again two months ago, but then she went the yoga, crystals, volcanos direction again and probably is traveling.

    • @tinybike
      @tinybike 2 года назад

      @@FightCommentary 💔

  • @Covencraft
    @Covencraft 2 года назад +2

    Please review Detroit Threat Management Center.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      We will test one of their techniques soon. There's a little cameo easter egg of it if you look closely in this video ;)

  • @thebruce0
    @thebruce0 2 года назад +5

    Let me be a devil's advocate for a second here...
    I think a lot of once-off videos we may pull off the internet may be taken out of context. For example, in my kwoon, for self defence, the early techniques we learn are most certainly not going to be effective, themselves, in real world situations. But, through the long term of the curriculum and advancement in understanding the human structure, those base techniques lead to faster, more precise, instinctual actions that are then much more effective. Especially when the student has built up the physical ability and confidence to pull them off effectively.
    The alternative is teaching techniques for a short-term education crash course, like full self defence classes for people who aren't into martial arts long term. This is where teaching styles and techniques should be different and more effective right from the start.
    If you were to take 'early' curriculum techniques out of long-term context, they'd absolutely look like bullshido. So I guess the question I'd have is - find out from those teachers if they truly believe that some specific technique they're teaching in a video clip is sufficient for real-world self defence... OR, are they actually laying a foundation, a base to improve upon over a longer term, and the technique is taken out of context?
    (I'd like to think the latter, but of course there are plenty of bullshido teachers out there anyway and wouldn't be surprised if some of the 'proper' techniques they teach are in fact pure bullshido :P)

    • @monkeyishi
      @monkeyishi 2 года назад +1

      if the first part is true then the ones being lambasted can outline how the drills progess. or at least the underlying principles. for example. there is a bloke who does gun stuff. his first drill is one partner holds his hand as though he has a gun and the active training partner must slap the hand off line before he can pull the imaginary trigger. this progesses into a methods to control the arm once off line and then into ways to disarm and/or draw and counter attack. if there is no progression then it should be lambasted as bullshido.
      the second one if they were doing this they wouldnt have 3-6 move combos they were teaching their students. wouldnt it be better to teach one move even if when broken down it it become 3-6 individual movements to produce one move. for example if an of my female friends want to learn a single self defence move i teach an arm drag as a counter to a single hand shirt grab. the arm drag its self has at least 3 or 4 components. but it also teaches timing, angling off and bio-mechanics. these are all good foundations for the ones that come back wanting another move.

  • @bloodsn0w
    @bloodsn0w 2 года назад

    I had to rewind that head kick, totally caught me by surprise! What's her Instagram? I know it's at the end of the video but there's a card blocking the last half of it.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад

      Yeah, surprising someone really works. Oh snap! Thanks for letting me know about the endcards. I'm going change the layout. I don't link off too much to other platforms because RUclips seems to hold it against a channel to have too many outbound link (RUclips wants to keep audience in the platform).

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад

      Fixed now!

  • @moe3235
    @moe3235 2 года назад +1

    For the all go ruthenium

  • @timadams3979
    @timadams3979 2 года назад +2

    I know a KM Instructor who of course teaches pretty advanced CQC type stuff--when he actually got attacked in the street one time--he threw and elbow, knocked the guy down, and ran away--simple is more beddah

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад

      What's CQC btw?

    • @bytefu
      @bytefu 2 года назад +1

      @@FightCommentary Close quarters combat.

    • @timadams3979
      @timadams3979 2 года назад +1

      @@FightCommentary close quarters combat

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад

      @@timadams3979 I like that term a lot! That way people aren't thinking "ground and pound" all the time because "ground" is not the only time one engages in close range combat. And then we can get past "trapping range" as they often say in Wing Chun or JKD, and of course, Jiu Jitsu. All these terms are not complete. Is this CQC term trademarked? I should do a search.

    • @timadams3979
      @timadams3979 2 года назад

      @@FightCommentary No, it's not copyrighted. The terms been around in military circles for decades--going back to at least WWII.

  • @AloysiusSamuel
    @AloysiusSamuel 2 года назад +2

    Jerry should wear robes next time.

  • @pj6366
    @pj6366 2 года назад +3

    Get Madison back for another video

  • @JIUJITSUMAN22
    @JIUJITSUMAN22 2 года назад +2

    You know preety ladys , dude.

  • @knowledgelesspumpkin5887
    @knowledgelesspumpkin5887 2 года назад +1

    Not having watched yet: yes, everything is better than bullshido.

  • @Erhuero
    @Erhuero 2 года назад

    Yes we as adults need to relearn the our early instincts or enhance what we already have.

  • @vipercrane190
    @vipercrane190 2 года назад +1

    The best approach to traditional martial arts should be like boxing.
    Teach the students the fundamentals of the style, allow the students to feel out the way these principles work in sparring, THEN teach them these higher level techniques. People spend so long training skills and techniques and build a false sense of confidence.

  • @solidussnate6348
    @solidussnate6348 2 года назад +1

    Pressure testing- you will learn how you need to modify your own personal style.... and what is BS. OH bring em both back! :D

  • @allopez8563
    @allopez8563 2 года назад

    Actually the double back wrist grab is a notorious bully and mugger technique.

  • @Danetto
    @Danetto 2 года назад +3

    more stories jerry ^^

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      Definitely! Like I said in the video, those stories seem to me so insignificant, but I realize that a lot of my audience has never gotten in a fight before, which used to surprise me a lot, but then I realized more and more that I just had horrible parents who did a lot of mental damage to me, and that's why I used to do so much dumb stuff. So I guess we can all learn from these stories! I'll record more story videos soon! The two that I recorded that were inspired by Rokas' stories did super well!

    • @Danetto
      @Danetto 2 года назад

      @@FightCommentary its as if saying ur life is insignificant... i wouldnt except a fighter to think like that :(

  • @abdillahazhar1833
    @abdillahazhar1833 2 года назад

    Interesting. Maybe Bart Simpson Punch can work if done instinctively. In a pressured situation, frustration comes out, and you'd probably land a punch.
    Edit:
    One more thing to add. I find this from a channel, Fight Science. Great channel, btw, combining practical stuffs and also psychological. Mindset and situational awareness are among other things are really highlighted there. Anyway, concerning women self-defense, they view that women self-defense should be pressure tested against guys. Because most women tend to be targets of men. Seeing your videos, I guess you're having the same ideas as Fight Science channel.

  • @leodouskyron5671
    @leodouskyron5671 2 года назад

    People will see things in movies and try it if they are of a mind to fight. And that happens and so it does not mater too much about these scammers (though they should be called out because - scammers).
    The key to self defense is what you do BEFORE fight or flight. If you have a coworker go to garage with them after telling someone. Perfect nope. But that may be good enough and usually better then going alone because “I am a self made person and I have XYZ ”
    Usually if they are not gunning for you they want an easy mark. If you are effective ENOUGH when you fight or fight you will likely get away. If they are coming for YOU then they are likely to know what they need to do. They wi set a surprise you can’t see around or bring a friend, a taser or gun and just do what it takes to get you. In those cases all you can to is try your best.

  • @hcm9999
    @hcm9999 2 года назад +1

    Most modern martial arts like karate are NOT designed for self-defense.
    At least not any more.
    They have been modified for COMPETITION and not self-defense.
    In a competition you don't want to kill or even hurt your opponent.
    But in self-defense you need to hurt or even kill your opponent.
    The goals are completely different whether it is for competition or self-defense.
    Originally martial arts were for self-defense, so most of the techniques were designed to kill or hurt your opponent. Because there is no other way to protect yourself against an enemy that is trying to kill you.
    But most of those techniques CANNOT be used in a competition.
    So those techniques have been banned and ceased to be taught in modern martial arts.
    Modern martial arts have been changed into a sport, designed just to keep you in good physical and mental shape, and for friendly competitions.
    You should not use martial arts for self-defense. All the odds are against you. You don't know if your opponent is alone. No matter how good you are at karate, can you fight multiple opponents?
    You don't know if your opponent is armed. Martial arts are useless against a gun or even a knife.
    And even if you use karate and win, by hurting or killing your opponent, you are now in big trouble with the police. If you are not able to prove self-defense, you are the one that is going to be arrested and sentenced for murder.
    All the odds are against you. It is a lose-lose situation, there is no way to win.
    Your best chance of survival is to run away. You should fight only if you have no other alternative. And even then you should use some kind of weapon, like a knife or a stick, something, anything, instead of your bare hands.
    Criticizing martial arts because they don't work for self-defense makes no sense, since modern martial arts are not designed for self-defense. At least not any more.

  • @nutella2025
    @nutella2025 Год назад

    What continent are you in America or Canada

  • @rylie8989
    @rylie8989 2 года назад +1

    I think there's lots of great stuff on hard2hurt but I disagreed with the bullshido video too. I think the argument was basically it's not gonna be worse than being untrained, and maybe that's true of like, martial arts that just do forms or whatever and no sparring (bc honestly that's basically equivalent to being untrained, you're not gonna connect the imagined situation behind the forms to a real situation in the heat of the moment if you never drill it live), but as this shows that's far from as bad as bullshido gets, some really do actively train you to be a worse fighter

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +2

      Yep. Thanks for seeing my inspiration. Maddie reacted so much better naturally than any of the techniques taught by bullshido masters. That's why it was worth comparison!

    • @rylie8989
      @rylie8989 2 года назад +1

      @@FightCommentary Definitely! And like while I do kinda get where Icy Mike was coming from, like some people in the martial arts community do get REALLY incensed over stuff they see as bullshido that does include things that really aren't going to be harmful, but I think it is important to acknowledge that there is a range of it and some are going to be more harmful than others. Like if you train this stuff you showed to the point that that's how you react, you are literally going to be worse off defending yourself than untrained.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      @@rylie8989 And I think this is a great survey to do. What percentage of people watching bullshido think it's real?

  • @MlGHTY1
    @MlGHTY1 2 года назад

    min 7:59 Best Technique :D

  • @rexrodecolt
    @rexrodecolt 2 года назад +2

    Hmm Interesting

  • @JohnSmith-hm6lv
    @JohnSmith-hm6lv 2 года назад

    The best thing you can do for beginner self defense is to keep it simple, advanced techniques can cause you to injure yourself more than your opponent if you aren't experienced. I remember when I was in school this kid used to always brag that he did martial arts and that he could do all sorts of fancy flying kicks, one day someone challenged him to kick them with one and he ended up landing on the concrete and breaking his arm.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад

      Ouch! Landing on concrete! I've seen similar examples too.

  • @hypotheticalbrother1372
    @hypotheticalbrother1372 2 года назад +1

    Mashu Aught 😌

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад +1

      Took me a second to see that you were saying "martial art." Master Wong reference?

  • @miltonjav4543
    @miltonjav4543 2 года назад

    Instinct or error and mending which also very natural but it's not exactly what we call an instinct

  • @huemungus1491
    @huemungus1491 2 года назад

    You’d be surprised of what a the adrenaline and instinct can do. Used to be in a gang when I was still in HS I time 3 kids chased me and never in my life did I imagined that I could jump from the 2nd floor of my school building then roll over side ways like a parkour, we didn’t know about parkour back then but I did it, my grandpa used to teach me a little bit of kali before but he never taught me how to jump and roll but I just did it on instinct to not break my spine when I land after that jump.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад

      That's great that you got out of that situation without injury! We also have very similar stories, but the person popped a knee or broke an arm, so the more I think about the question presented in this video, the more I want to add certain variables and do a test. One variable I want to add is "fitness level." I wrote more in my response to IcyMike, which I'm going to pin now.

    • @huemungus1491
      @huemungus1491 2 года назад

      @@FightCommentary I hurt my elbow that time but at least I got away from trouble and didn’t break a bone, but if you ask me if I’ll do it again? Never! That was really scary but I was more scared of getting beaten up or getting stab because I don’t know if they had a knife or something so it was a fight or flight situation.

  • @Clark_808
    @Clark_808 2 года назад

    _I feel like I saw this intro before_

  • @timvreeland4971
    @timvreeland4971 2 года назад

    Drills that create skills are better than techniques that rely on a specific set of circumstances. Or the age old question. Would you rather know 100 techniques that you can only use 1 way or 1 technique that you can use 100 ways? Depends what you train for but the mysticism versus reality of martial arts can be a harsh wake up call. As my first instructor said, "it can take a few minutes to learn and a lifetime to master".

  • @WarbossR0kt00fSant0s
    @WarbossR0kt00fSant0s 2 года назад

    I couldn't stomach how those bullshido masters embarass themselves with these made-up techniques that only work in the movies.

    • @FightCommentary
      @FightCommentary  2 года назад

      Yeah, I know for certain people try to copy. Even as a middle schooler, I tried to copy bullshido techniques before. Not afraid to admit it. I'm not the only one. Thank goodness I got that out of my system by middle school, but we see examples all the time of people who think they're in video games. That DUSTy guy is a perfect example.

  • @emptyemptiness8372
    @emptyemptiness8372 2 года назад

    Bullshido can be a problem, especially for young guys who train it, believe they have skill sets and get in a fight and get flogged because they have trained flowery fists, embroidered kicks and esoteric techniques.....its mainly teens, i know , i was one many many years ago. Maybe its different for teens now with mma and bjj.

  • @coltenlester9426
    @coltenlester9426 2 года назад +4

    Jerries got a gf.

  • @yesbutactuallyno8305
    @yesbutactuallyno8305 2 года назад

    aint such thing as knife defense only knife attacks. Check out how well knife defense works in London😂😂🤣

  • @stefanekszczykutowicz8884
    @stefanekszczykutowicz8884 2 года назад +1

    Was pink pant suit chick a DK Yoo graduate?