What a phenomenal interview. Wow. Learned so much about Brownmark’s lifelong hustle and life path. Kudos. More respect than ever for him. Thank you, Michael for this in depth and profound segment. Much appreciated!!
I appreciate that Brown Mark told his side of the story about his time with Prince. I don't like that he was sometimes treated harshly by Prince, but it doesn't make me love Prince any less than I already do. It just helps me see another side of him. And, to be honest, those geniuses who have the drive to make it to the top and be seen for generations as 'the greatest of all time' have an unyielding nature that is a force to be reckoned with. It's like 'get on this train and ride with me the right way, or get off and get out of my way!' Prince had it, and Michael Jordan had it as seen in the bio-pic "The Last Dance." M.J. was harsh at times, too. But, just like Prince, he was of a singular mind : "Get to the top. And if I have to move you out of my way, I'll move you out of my way." I love both of those guys, and understand their mindset. (And to be honest, what 20-something-year-old guys wouldn't become narcissistic if they have the world at their feet, they're are truly major talents/geniuses, and have been given free range to do anything musically AND in film? Most guys in that position go 'buck wild!' And, as seen with Prince, they calm down a bit in their later years.)
The Beatles were never like that. They never got big heads or narcissistic. The opposite, they were kinda humble. Who is the biggest band of all time? The Beatles Top-selling artists worldwide as of 2022. Perhaps unsurprisingly, British rock band The Beatles are top of the list for best-selling artists worldwide, with 183 million units certified sales. Second is Garth Brooks with over 157 million units sales, followed by Elvis Presley with 139 million units.Dec 8, 2022. I was never a Prince fan, but Cameo "I just Wanna Be?" That is how I ran into BrownMark. KayGees "Get down" OH YES YES YES. AAAAH, it's on YT, YES ruclips.net/video/73ZBXE6AZ1M/видео.html Who's the Man with the Master Plan, that too. I have about 40 90min casette tapes of this kind of stuff from heh, WAY back. Prince? Eh, Jungle Love? America? OK. I bet BrownMark would LOVE these KayGees songs. Another divine song "Heart and Soul" by Imagination. DIVINE.
@@tanl7756 You sure of that? Even though they worked together on songs Paul and John were jealous with each other and they fought all the time. Paul because he was a workaholic and drove the other 3 crazy, John because he wanted out of the Beatles by '67. And they both didn't want George's songs on the albums because of money and ego. They really didn't he could write that well until Abbey Road.
Gratitude for this purple Brother!! so Real. So far in the purple universe, my top keeping real purple interviews are. 1. Cat 2.Brown Mark 3.Jessie Johnson w/Quest love 4.Jill Jones 5. Andre Simone . Those interviews give a holistic view of the purple court, a very objective look, which makes me appreciate Prince's legacy in a greater way. Ase
The interviews you mention are from people who loved and respected Prince, as Prince loved and respected them. Some of the worst interviews I have watched since Prince's death are from those closest to him in the last days. The real Thieves in the Temple. Waiting to watch them fall... Kudos to Brown Mark! This was a really great interview.
Excellent interview. Was nice today hear Brown Mark speak and tell about his life and time with Prince and after. I pre-ordered his book from Amazon. Thank you, Michael Dean you are a fantastic interviewer.
Brownmark, thank you for sharing your experiences with us. When I was a kid, I used to stare at those album covers and wonder what your lives were like. Hearing your stories brings the fantasy of Prince and the Revolution to fruition. You guys are real life heroes and I am eternally grateful for the music and the memories you helped to create.
Another superb interview Michael Dean! You always ask the questions we want to hear and give the guest plenty of space to give in-depth answers. Keep workin' it like a job!
Mark Brown aka Brown Mark. Summer of 1979," Phantasy Band" performed at the Phyllis Wheatley Music Festival along with the Original "Flye Tyme" in North Minneapolis. Mark was the talk amongst the local musicians. Maurice Stevens (RIP) described Mark as a MOSTER ON THE BASS. A few days later Mark came to Minneapolis North High School and jammed with us in the band room with the approval of music band director Mr. Clarke. James McGregor, Jerry Hubbard (The Time and Jesse Johnson) and Tony Mosley were also in the building. Real History
I Love it. Brown Mark is right. That's how Prince brought the best out of everyone around him. It may have been harsh at times but Bet u never made the same mistake again because it sticks. That's what makes a great leader.💜
@@michaelfrazia4569 Prince done it all well he snapped at Brown I guess Prince saw him tall huge black guy Brown may told Prince his past history on the Street life too we don’t know what really happen everyone had their own story I do feel for Brown though not nice his feeling down about Prince what a shame
MOST LIKELY SHOULD KNOW THAT EVERYONE CANNOT BE THE LEADER JUST KNOW YOUR CAPABILITY AND RIDE IN YOUR OWN LANE TO DO OTHERWISE WOULD BE DISASTROUS DISCORD I UNDERSTAND WHY PRINCE DIDN'T SAY MUCH OTHER THAN WHAT NEEDED TO BE SAID AND DONE NOTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED PRINCE FOCUS WOULD HAVE BEEN DISTURBED 🤔
I’m definitely getting this book. I’ve listened to other interviews by BrownMark and it always breaks my heart to hear his hurt. Prince became a superstar. Prince tried to keep his school buddies in his life, he even tried to keep his childhood state in his life, but he excelled to such a higher level, he could no longer carry everyone with him. Will anyone of his colleagues cause the world to light up in their signature color when they leave this earth? I doubt it. Prince was a musical legend. It hurts to have the same aspirations as Prince, to stand next to him and create next to him, but to never reach his success. But BrownMark sees only the negative in this, in my opinion. He was very lucky life to be a witness to Prince’s metamorphoses. A privilege to know him as a friend. But I understand how sad it can be to want what Prince and not reach it, especially because success seemed so close at hand. I do believe he sees his truth in this, but the hurtful truth is that Prince joined another league and was no longer the small town kid. 💜
Some people just don't understand that they're simply not quite on the same level as the one they admire as an artist (or entrepreneur or whatever). Doesn't mean they can't bring anything to the table at all (Brownmark obviously could), just you shouldn't mistake working with/for somebody with being on the same level with them in all aspects.
beatz04 true! I just sense a sadness and regret among many former Prince band mates. It seems like they blame Prince for their “failures” because they didn’t reach his level of success. They are successful but to compare themselves to him, I believe is causing their pain. They think Prince caused their pain, but it’s their attitude
@@sunnypie2 I agree. I think it's especially true with Jesse and Morris Day, and to a degree Sheila as well. People should understand that an artist the caliber of Prince first and foremost has (or feels) an obligation to their gift of artistry and everything else comes second. Hence replacing band members or his whole band with different people after a while, being a control freak at times etc. Prince wouldn't have gotten to where he was if he'd made "homies first" a priority. In addition to that, i'd say he has given people a plethora of opportunities and probably a platform to get as big as they possibly could become anyway. I mean, how much further do you wanna go if you have been given the opportunity to be a part of the Prince universe ? People sometimes act as if he owed them something or more than he gave, when there is a high probability those people would have never made it that far without Prince in the first place. Yeah, Morris Day might think he would have been a better drummer than Bobby Z (and technically he might be even right) but for a long time he failed to understand that for Prince it wasn't all just about the technical skills as a drummer. Which ironically just illustrates my point, because not understanding that fact is an indication of why Morris just wasn't on the same level Prince was. Same for Jesse: He surely is one of the best guitar players out there, but in no way is he on the same level with Prince when it comes to songwriting, production, vocal chops and overall uniqueness. And to complain about the lost opportunity to establish himself as a household blues guitar player - it was his decision to go the MN sound route after Prince with his solo projects, i mean he clearly emulated his whole visual style and singing after Prince and no one forced him to. How is that Prince's "fault" ?? Eric Leeds: Throughout his whole career he has made it a point to let the world know from time to time that he would have preferred to play Jazz instead of Prince's music. Again: Who forced him to take the job he was offered ? Some people are just ungrateful. The ones that clearly understood their own strengths and took their chance to make the best out of the opportunity Prince gave them were of course Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. You rarely heard them complain, they knew they had f*cked up according to Prince's playbook, they never wanted to be the main star anyway but they surely knew how to leverage their own strengths and the fact they were a part of the Prince world. All in all, i'd even say most people of the Prince camp made most out of their chances and have nothing to complain about and for the most part, don't. But if you get to the top like Prince did, you can't please everyone anyway.
wow, brown mark really knows how to sell a book. i never thought i'd be interested in a book from anyone other than prince himself, but i'm highly intrigued...i wont's that book!
Great interview! BrownMark’s book and audio book are excellent. I highly recommend. Mark is level headed about the success, challenges, all of it. Much admiration to his approach to life.
Michael Dean, I have been listening to you for years and I have to give you credit for being great at conducting interviews. You ask great questions and, unlike some internet podcast hosts, you allow the guest to speak their mind. Too many of the other hosts online keep interrupting the guest but you are professional enough to be quiet and let them speak! Good job.
I watch Micheal Dean with ladies he interviews but I think his a typical black man who hates on black Successful men I mean he don’t even phrase or salut Mark on his huge mega Success Micheal is very jealous and envies that is wrong and unprofessional very rude man
I read Dez's book and the connection to Prince is truly unfathomable. To not want to leave and knowing you must a duality you dealt with everyday. Having to had dealt with depression myself God bless BROWN MARK🙏 Can't wait
one thing that strikes me after hearing all of these interviews with princes old crew ..no wonder there was a big movement in Minneapolis in the late 70s and early 80s. what a bunch of classy , intelligent, and talented people in one place at the same time. .
I bet they all can benefit from closure from their trauma; because we know the glory of the entertainment but being able to get together and air out their issues,,, yea, thanx Brown Mark.
Prince himself said he had that not so nice side to him , he was a genius and perfectionist and those type of people can be grumpy let's say. I say this as a Prince fan from 1983 until present and I just adored him . Did not know the man but adored him still . I ain't mad at ya Mark.
This is coming from a True Prince friend... THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRUTH Brown Mark ! You where their and lived it at the peak... Never sway from your Truth. I have much RESPECT for you. I've been on the purple ride and been to many shows. Your story matters! Prince was human and not perfect. And if your a true Prince friend/fan YOU GET IT! Thanks for sharing your story and your talent. Much love 2 u and ur family! 💜✝️☮️
@@behavioristbusiness7372 Well some deny the Truth.. Period, they don't wanna hear it. A lot of his die hards feel it's a betrayal to pRince and what he would see as doin right by him. Not every story is a fairytale.
@@icu1905 No one said it was a fairytale. What about the grey area though? Read this--- prince.org/msg/7/77425. I am not saying grievances are not appropriate...but it seems like people are trying to turn grey into black and white.
@@rockssolid7471 I know when pRince did what....I followed his career since I was 13 I'm now 50....Been to more than 20 shows of All his band members....I know Truth! 💜 Danced on stage with Sheila and Morris..when I speak on pRince ....I know what TIME it izzzzz! ☮️
IMO....I think the Revolution think that they are bigger/better than they really were. I think every band Prince had after them could out play them and personnel wise were better on their instruments especially the band with Renato, John Blackwell, Rhonda Smith. Hell The Time outplayed them in the 80s
Its amazing that people talk about how the other bands could out play The Revolution bandmembers YET, NO other bands/bandmembers went on to have as prolific of careers in the industry overall than the Revolution musicians. Hmmm. Yeah, the other musicians like Sonny T., Mike Bland, OF COURSE Lady R., and Levi are just that deal but really I believe its about adaptability. The Revolution were groomed from nothing so to speak and when it really came to playing this sort of music which forever changed Pop culture, NPG and The Lovesexy Band and The other mishmash of musicians had to just follow along with what was laid down before them. Simple and plain. Levi even talked about how he had to switch it up because playing for Prince was an altogether different beast than anything he had truly done from The Bay area. So please stop taking digs and disrespecting Z., Dr. Fink, Lisa, Wendy-Wen, and you can't diss BrownMark. They went on to score and do soundtracks for MAJOR motion pictures, produce platinum albums in their entirety ie; Lisa and Wendy (produced Seal's first platinum hit album). Matt Fink continued to play with P. Years after The Revolution disbanded Barbarella, and Morris Hayes were NOT the Staple, Matt Dr. Fink was until he resigned still playing from The Revolution days through to The NPG days in the first assembly of the group with Rosie. He was NEVER given a pink slip THAT'S how much of a better Keyboardist he was than Morris Hayes who later became his musical director for the later versions of NPG. Brown Mark brought Mazarati to the table and produced them. Those Boys were that deal, NO ONE in any those OTHER bands could bring the likes of Screamer, Christian, Sir Casey Terry, etc.. in and harness what they could do with that first hit from their very first album because he could play and was respected! Bobby continued to do drum tracks and session with Prince long after The Revolution disbanded. Fink,...He and Rosie resigned they weren't fired like the other NPG groups. So stop people. The Revolution is/was badass every bit as the other Bands just in a different way. SMDH. P.S. The Revolution were/are the ONLY group actually doing World Tours to the magnitude that they are. Pretty much all of Europe and just about everywhere Prince went. The other Band's are piecing together stints here and there because The tightness spiritually and musically cannot be replicated through just being great musicians. The other Bands have a different spiritual vibe than The Revolution. The people feel that as well you can't play great to get that you have to BE great and that's a natural love for this not a ego driven see me I'm this dude from The Bay, or been here in Minneapolis before everyone else doing this, or I know so and so, etc. Remember BrownMark brought Morris Hayes to the table to audition for Prince and Morris mentioned himself he didn't think he was good enough to play. How is that possible if Morris who later became Prince's musical director felt he wasn't up to part to play with Prince and yet HE and others from NPG were better musicians than The Revolution? Doesn't make sense. STOP it. The Revolution is every bit as good than the others! The spiritual ride.... That's most important. The experience you give the people. You have to remember Prince spoke about giving the people that experience not just a great performance. NPG didn't and still dont have that feel. But they can play like NOBODY'S business, have people reminiscent on certain songs as ANY good musician, artist, band can do no doubt but, The Revolution had/has a Spiritual connection everytime because they were the first (after Andre and Dez left) and truly hand picked from obscurity because they were the best around at what they did individually. Check the files. Let's stop dumping on the first to do it with Prince. If it weren't for The Revolution, there would be NO blueprint for the other so-called BETTER musicians to follow and yes Levi Seacer Jr. explained there was a blueprint THEY still had to follow JUST like The Revolution. Remember the bands after The Revolution STILL had to play the songs like Prince said to play them and Brown Mark was the ONLY Bass player EVEN over Sonny T., who Prince himself said was the best bass player he ever had and Sonny T. was an early idol of Prince's! If I'm not mistaken BrownMark is with The Revolution right? So not all those OTHER musicians or bands were better than The Revolution musicians. Lmao!!! STOP IT, STOP it. Be Nice.
Housequake, Sign O' The Times, The Ballad of Dorothy Parker, Starfish and Coffee, U Got the Look, Hot Thing, The Cross, Adore, Forever in my Life, etc. were written by Prince. The Time's songs were written by Prince, Sheila E's, the Family's... Prince's death doesn't change that.
In all fairness, not all of the Time songs were written solely by him. Jungle Love's basic melody was Jesse. I have heard the demo. But that being said, people do lie about Prince and exaggerate their input sometimes--Sheila E still trying to say she wrote Glamorous Life...Nope, that is provably wrong..(by studio logs, his original demo, Jill Jones, and sound engineers). The truth is that the reality is messy and grey. And Jesse accidently didn't give credit to Prince once for his very original production and arrangement of the song "Do Yourself A Favor" 'and only gave credit to the original writer Pepe Willie and himself. So things happen. SOTT songs are basic blueprints redone after the Rev left...(not talking about Crystal Ball and Dream Factory though).
@@behavioristbusiness7372 In all fairness, Prince was one of the greatest songwriters of the modern pop era. Jimmy Jam: www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7348342/jimmy-jam-remembers-prince Prince was the principal songwriter for The Time. [Singer] Morris Day contributed a little, but Terry Lewis and I didn’t contribute much. We had song ideas. At the end of the Controversy tour, we were sitting around a hotel room, just the Time members, and Terry said, “I want to go to L.A. and make some demos. They need us out there.” And this will mark the time for you -- everybody’s answer to Terry was, “Man, you're crazy. I'm saving my money for a VCR.” A VCR! So I said, “Terry, I'll go.”
@@rockssolid7471 You must not have been following my defenses of Prince all the way through the comment sections...but we need to pay attention to the nuances. If we don't acknowledge those exceptions like Jesse's melody for Jungle Love (which everyone has accepted as fact and which has a demo), then we lose our credibility while defending Prince. But you are right, Prince did most of the Time music on the first two albums. Morris played drums, prince added bass, keyboards, melody, lyrics and invited others to contribute solos etc every once in a while like Dr. Fink and Lisa contribute a few lyrics to the Stick.
@@behavioristbusiness7372 Don't forget Morris gave him "Party Up" which was a Bass & Drum track he had and Prince offered $10,000 or a recording contract, which Morris choose the latter.
Wow, this was insightful. Love 2 Lisa cause she was like a momma grizzly, growling at Prince 2 leave him alone. The infamous Rolling Stones opening and the booing. I laughed that Brownmark got hit with a bag of fried chicken. LOL.
I just watched 2 interviews of Prince's VERY 1st bass players (Andre and Mark) and realized that he worked with not only musical geniuses (MUCH like himself) but also the COOLEST 😎 cats on the WHOLE planet!💯💯💯 MUCH respect 2 these guys!👍👍👍
i loved prince earlier work but he was a mental and physical abuser that took advantage of his bandmates. and anyone disagree ..they in lala land and just looking at his talents. u shouldnt take advantage of someone helping u to get to where u are. Thats why prince had each of them sign disclosure forms. He's dead and they still scared to tell the whole truth. They sugar coat the abuse and beat around the bush. But if U pay attention and read inbetween the lines..U can put it together.
Mark Brown hasn't worked for Prince 1986. He 'retired' in 1992, so seems he is doing just fine, most of us have to hustle for work all our lives. But feel free to support the lazy... and live in lala land.
Prince worked a thousand times harder than anyone else and he knew how to make an idea successful, that's his secret of success. No one would probably know a Morris Day without Prince. Prince was the driving power and a workaholic, spending most times of his life in stdios without windows and sunlight, not sleeping a lot and always producing. Who else wants that kind of a dark life? Are Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis the two only guys around Prince who I ve never heard saying a bad word about Prince?
But you must admit that he does a intensely thorough job of looking at his watch powerfully and with a righteousss indignation that represents an inner-exposition of turmoil and realisation, devastatingly culminating in a cute face.
There was a lot of footage from Purple Rain that ended up on the cutting room floor. Mark had speaking parts but they were surrounded by parts that were cut. It's not like Matt and Bobby had a whole lot to say but I will say that in paying attention to Brown Mark's appearances in concert footage, etc. He often seems obscured.
ANOTHER Great Interview! Thx Mike & Co. & Brownmark! I always wanted to hear Brownmark's story, especially after hearing about the whole, "Kiss" and Mazarati situation-and I also felt that Brown didn't get all the props he should have gotten. Looking fwd to reading the book. Thx Again. Continued Success!
Prince was young too..... Mark is elevated.... he is smart and operates out of love and growth.... love this human! And A True .......you all mattered....it does count!
I REALLY NJOY'D THIS INTERVIEW WITH BROWNMARK. I CAN'T WAIT 2 GET MY PREORDERED COPY & I DO HOPE AS HE SAID, THAT I'LL GET MY COPY SOONER THE THE PROJECTED RELEASE DATE. THANX GUYS 4 THE INTERVIEW. B SAFE, LOVE4ONEANOTHER & MAY WE LIVE 2 C THE DAWN.
Engineer/producer David Z provided the history of the Kiss. Mark's contribution to the final song were his background vocals. Prince handed David melody and lyrics to Kiss, they handed in a hum drum tune but Prince liked David's additions so kept those and gave him credit. The stripped down, minimalist, bass-less falsetto funk piece, with signature guitar fluorish, melody and lyrics, final product was Prince. Prince's original demo - ruclips.net/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/видео.html Parts of David Z's interview in Sound on Sound - Prince 'Kiss': www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss "One day, he called me and said, 'There's a group that I've just signed and want you to have something to do with. Come to LA.' So, I went there, walked into Sunset Sound, and he said, 'You're going to produce this group called Mazarati.' That was the first time I'd been labelled a producer, which I'm very grateful for. It got me started.” "Anyway, starting with a LinnDrum, I programmed the beat and began experimenting. Taking a hi-hat from the drum machine, I ran it through a delay unit and switched between input and output and in the middle. That created a very funky rhythm. Then I took an acoustic guitar, played these open chords and gated that to the hi-hat trigger. The result was a really unique rhythm that was unbelievably funky but also impossible to actually play... I'm sure that sound influenced the fabulous new Daft Punk song 'Get Lucky', because it uses the same trick, with the guitar gated to some sort of rhythm and sequencer. "Next, I remembered a little piano part from a Bo Diddley song called 'Say Man' and put it on there, and then Tony Christian sang the lead part, an octave lower than what Prince wound up doing. The background vocals I adapted from the Brenda Lee song 'Sweet Nothings' - good music is always taken from somewhere else - and that was that. The whole thing was done in a day.” Hijacked Or David Z and the guys in Mazarati thought it was. The fact is, in this form 'Kiss' sounded OK - a so-so dance number. However, Tony Christian's lead vocal was a little soulless and uninspiring, and when Prince heard the track he decided to head in a different direction... with himself at the helm. "When I came back into the studio the next morning, Prince had already taken it off the machine, replaced the vocal with his own falsetto performance - which, I guess, he felt it needed - got rid of the bass part and added a James Brown 'Papa's Got A Brand New Bag' guitar lick,” Z recalls. "'What happened?' I asked, to which he replied, 'It's too good for you guys. I'm taking it back.'” Boasting a four-octave range, Prince sang virtually the entire song in head voice, reverting to chest voice for the final line, as well as a single note before the last chorus. "At the time, I think he was into using a [Sennheiser MD] 441,” says Z. "It was so different to everything else out there that the Warner Brothers executives freaked out when they first heard it,” David Z confirms. "I was going to get credit as the producer, arranger, everything, but when I talked to the Warners A&R guy he said, 'Oh man, Prince really screwed up. It sucks.' I thought, what? My heart just hit the floor. He said, 'It sounds like a demo. There's no reverb, there's no bass - it's terrible.' "I was shaken and really disappointed. At that time, however, Prince had enough power to go, 'That's the single and you're not getting another one until you put it out.' The rest is history."
@@EbonyJ-rt5bb very wrong Prince telling Brown to fly out twice for work but leaves him in hotel for two days without getting with him that is wrong and disrespectful Prince didn’t respect Brown
You be safe beloved Mark ...... before you write that second book... of the darkness, we need this more than ever yet it can be dangerous.... we’ve crossed paths many times, Mpls girl..your age group, was there before the fame.......please write this next book 💜🖤💜👊🏽
You can’t go through life saying WHY WHY! We all experience those in life. He quit the Revolution before the band broke up. He has been responsible for his own life. Dr Fink and Bobbie have been so genuine and respectful of what they all shared with Prince. Finally he thinks he is leader of the Revolution and where he wants to be. I have been on this earth so much longer than you and been where you are going. It amazes me how much more you need to mature. You and you alone are responsible for your life as you are living it, if you are making the decisions.
Brown is full of it - 3rdEyeGirl was put together in 2012 (not 2015) their album Plectrumelectrum was released in 2014. Bassist Ida Nielson had been working with Prince from 2010. So Prince did not fly Brown out in 2015 for the project as claimed. "Right before Prince passed a year before he passed, he had flown me up to Minneapolis because he wanted me to look into a project with him. This new thing he was putting together - it ended up being 3rdEyeGirl - which, I'm not a girl so I didn't fit the bill, but it was going to be something different for that. So we got to talking and... " Dude hasn't done much since 1986 - actions speak louder than words. Prince elevated Mazarati by providing their only 'hit' - 100mph.
There was an interview in which Prince stated that he hired Ida in 2010 because his other bassist didn't know all his songs and she did. She learned them. I always wondered who that other bassist was.
Yes, he does sound very bitter about Prince moving on. Wendy and Lisa spoke about. When the Parade tour was over they were fired. Prince was the genius. True that there were many gatekeepers back then but they still exist today.
Prince being a control freak will always have conflict when you bud heads with him 2 strong minded. Yet as he got older he got more mellow yellow and left a surprise 2 all that worked along side him ! Retirement will B sweet like the golden parachute, he was very wise just a little disabled in the end
Prince paid the price of trying to change the fairness of the industry. His words “ just when you think you are safe” are him telling his fans that he has lost control of his situation. Seeing a policeman in America overdose from Fentanyl while searching a car and knowing how much of that drug was in Princes body, every person who touched him would be affected by the drug.
You know I see it like this. People in this life are chosen a path based on the events surrounding their lives. It's like what Prince wrote on his Controversy Album. Children only imitate their atmosphere. Life for Prince was, here is my Dad, a genius musician. He was frustrated for not taking his life to the ultimate with his indelible gift. He was challenged in life with his size and his circumstances. Trust issues. He internalized and imagined and realized all of this success. He probably didn't know how the outcome would be. In come people on the road. He had to protect that vision. Brown Mark coming into his life adventitiously. So there is no circumventing here, you have to be sharp. He is not going to cut the ckae even. He doesn't have too. In fact management wouldn't allow him too. He said they were a Band. Yes,they were. Prince's Band regardless what he says. They were their because he was there. The head chef like Wendy evokes truthfully in public. He was the head chef with the vision. Was he perfect ? No!. But, we know all of them,because he existed. Publicly anyway. I still like his story,he has come into his own. I had the chance to see him play with Prince in Madison Square Garden. He's tall Brother. Prince kind of had him in the background on the Parade tour. But his presence was potent in the band.
I know it's been over 30 years but I believe that vanity and chick were with Prince during 1999 at the same time. Vanity left right before Purple Rain over money from what I've read. But I think her and Prince was still together around 1999, (rolling stone cover of the time) also, appolonia also did go onstage in the syracuse performance, I don't know if she was a regular but to say she was never on stage is a mistake. People's memories get fuzzy.
Mark Brown I thought that you were an angry MAN BUT AFTER LISTENING TO THIS PODCAST I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU MORE AND APPRECIATE YOU MORE 2 TOGETHER ARE BETTER THAN ONE ALONE ONE THING FOR SURE EVERYONE CAN NOT BE THE LEADER
Dose anyone really believe Prince spent his life holding back all the talent he came across or made so great that he felt insecure. Mark, with respect, you need to consider therapy before you start your next book because you simply cannot blame anyone for your lack of reaching your dreams. You and you are alone are responsible for your life. That greatest band you played in was not your band. It was the creation of a genius who made it successfully, his way.
I know the fanatics don't want to hear it, but a lot of the division in the Prince camp was caused by PRINCE. He often pitted people against one another. He liked to mess with people's heads.
@@silvermist1216 Prince was extremely insecure and manipulative. He was an undeniable star, but that didn't change the mindset that was created by his unstable childhood. Somewhere along the way, he learned to use people to his advantage.
Yeah great one 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼very wrong for Prince keep playing with Brown back and forth twice that is very rude and disrespectful I mean if Brown is saying the truth this isn’t good at all a long term band member and supporter off Prince work Prince looked down on Brown that is not cool
@@demetrimeko yeah extremely rude and don't respect Brown imagine someone calling you twice making you fly out like a clown wow l think Prince is very cruel and evil his known as kind helping man but I guess only to sexy ladies has an issue with black famous men his sure inherited black genes hating on each other when it come to fame and riches
Wow,Morris has very similar stories when it comes to Prince and his actions towards them.Calling them out of the Blue for something music wise and then to have absolutely nothing materialize out of it.Damn,almost identical. Geez!!
Love this book, but when you read it you’ll see there is a similarity the way Mark’s description of how his friends said about his “initiation “ into the group and the kick. You have to read it to understand how he describe it . BRILLIANT
Wished mark would have talked bout how he felt when he heard when doves cry for the first time and that it didn’t contain any bass though the whole song. Did he think this was gonna be the beginning of the end of him being in the group
Hi 8 think this is one the most young man pic i ever seen ya grew up in your peers group an set ya goal an achieve it an did all your stunts music performancws 8 never forget this 8 cant bel8eve u guys stuck to your dreams was devoted an dec8ated its some time its hard to find people to st8ck here some out there but this was all life power in this band the plays u guys put on like magic good luck
Wow! Great interview. I always love BrownMark’s approach to his bass playing. He’s very funky! PLUS; he’s OBVIOUSLY a ‘Jazz Bass’ guy! A man after my own heart!😌🎶❤️👍🏾
Yeah I was relished he was talented always playing beside Prince I don’t understand why he so upset 😭 about though he made his money 💰 branded his name Brown you got to bless it move on Prince is dead now it could be this black with black men working together this is a problem through Generations through times
GREAT VIDEO...TRYING TO GET ENOUGH INFO ABOUT THAT GROUP. ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND...ALOT OF PEOPLE SOLD THEIR SOUL IN THIS INDUSTRY..AND ONCE U SELL YOUR SOUL..THAT IT...CAN'T GET IT BACK...FACT !!!!
1:14:00 - When BrownMark is talking about sign of the times he’s sort of wrong but he is also partially correct. As early spring of 1986 dream factory would’ve been the next revolution album or project and we know he used a lot of Wendy and Lisa at that time. Yet once the album changed into being crystal ball before it became sign of the times and that was mostly a solo effort from Prince. So was Camille was a solo effort in Sept/Oct 86’. By the time September - October 1986 the revolution was no more. He sounds very bitter to me yet I look forward to his book. Very fascinating interview.
Best bass player Prince ever had was Prince. Dave Grohl - "I gotta say, that dude is the most talented musician I've ever seen in my entire life... Best fckn bass player I've ever heard in my life." Take a listen - ruclips.net/video/1kUJbbw7hfM/видео.html
The biggest difference in perspective between P & the Revolution (especially Wendy, Lisa & Mark) is that P seemed to ultimately see the Revolution (& Morris, Andre, etc) as extensions of himself...not much different than say, his Linn Drum machine; while THEY saw the entire group as a BAND (one for all, all for one...MUCH like Mark himself described Mazarati, ironically). So when after starting an ultra collaborative album like Dream Factory and then P fires them, they're stunned. I get both sides of it: P incentivized them to give him their all by making them feel like a part of the process...but he was ALWAYS going to be the Jordan to their Bulls regardless...And notice they almost ALL to a person dropped everything they were doing and came when P called?
Andre quit. Lisa and Wendy threatened to quit and then were fired. Mark started to want his own band and expressed discontent and then quit after the ladies were fired. Fink stuck around and never worked outside the band as far as I know. Prince had abandonment issues and was originally promoted as a one-man band..how do you think he would respond to people doing side projects, threatening to quit and wanting more credits and input? And by the way, Mark talked about Mazarati...like he was Mazarati..not just a member of their band. Ironic that he doesn't mind referring to himself that way but can't even call Prince his boss.
People constantly underestimate the skill with which Prince created the Revolution band to his high expectations. He arranged the music and had the band practise until he was satisfied with the sound of the band. Warner Brothers signed Prince alone as an artist, then told him to get a band to go on tour. Prince first several albums were him alone playing all instruments. WB paid the band through Prince.The band was not signed to WB, hence Prince could fire them. Prince brought the best of a person’s talent to the forefront because he was a great band leader.
Big Sexy set it off for me talkin about his Coronavirus 'fro😂😂😂😂 Great interview, @mdean.👏🏿👏🏿 You ask great questions. I really like that you did not ask BrownMark the "typical" P/Revolution questions! Also, thanks for avoiding the spoilers! I heard BrownMark on "another podcast" Let's just say that Mark seemed way more chill here w/you (Just sayin'). Appreciate this statement at 6:30-7:30 ~>real deal👏🏿. IMO, I don't think BrownMark sounds "angry". Ppl need to get a grip that sometimes P was not right, even to those closest to him. Some in the purple universe have P floating on some purple cloud--as if he's not subject to criticism. BrownMark sums it best at 44:44-45:15 Anyway, cool interview. 👏🏿👏🏿 I plan to check out his book now. Btw, I kept an open mind and read Mayté's book thanks to Podcast Juice review.😁
People don't sanctify Prince like that. No one is saying Mark Brown has to sugar-coat. You might be missing the point of why some fans are weary of this book.
"People don't sanctify Prince like that." Interesting statement. Perceptions of Prince vary but that is not what I see happening in the purple fandom...not before and certainly not after P's passing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of BrownMark and others in the purple camp. I just don't have to ride with it. Peace.
@@LMichelle_bklyn88 They glorify his work and legacy. But podcasts and panel discussion and fan discussions that air grievances are not rare. Almost all the books (except for a few photo books) contain criticisms and complaints as well.. People talk about his bad side all the time... (sometimes the interviewers are actually asking them to tell them something bad about him.) Just because they don't elaborate on it fully or lose their temper discussing it , it doesn't mean its not discussed. It is sad to me that if a podcast or interview doesn't at least include one indication of him being unkind, people assume that is sanctification. Is it wrong to focus on the good sides of people? None of us are without faults.. including the people talking ABOUT Prince's. But really its not discussing his faults that is the problem...it is about balance. Sometimes, when people say they love Prince and that he was family and then proceed to ONLY discuss his faults (I have seen this happen), it makes me totally doubt their sincerity...like saying they love him is merely obligatory. They do such a piss poor job of explaining why they love him IN SPITE of his faults, that I just assume that they don't really love him at all. PRN alumni discussions can be this way sometimes.
@@LMichelle_bklyn88 You haven't been on Prince.org then. The word "asshole" is not uncommonly used in description of him on his own fan page. Hardcore fans, ironically, sometimes were his harshest critics...especially the ones from the 80's.
@@behavioristbusiness7372 I stand by my original statement that perceptions of Prince vary, as I have read on many platforms through the years, including prince.org. Again, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I don't have to ride with certain opinions regardless how long(or short) or amount of times one attempts making their argument(s). Peace✌🏽
there's an interview where Mark says he last spoke with him a year or so before he passed, he also said prince asked him "where's your guitar" as if he didn't know he played bass. in this interview he says the last time was before third eye which would have to be somewhere around 2012.
Yes, his dates are really off because he wasn't in the picture after the Revolution was disbanded. Times was mostly all Prince. I read the liner notes on the CDs. I say CDs because I became a fan in 89 and bought the 80s albums in the 90s. Sounds like the 80s were awesome, I was a kid then.
What a phenomenal interview. Wow. Learned so much about Brownmark’s lifelong hustle and life path. Kudos. More respect than ever for him. Thank you, Michael for this in depth and profound segment. Much appreciated!!
Very much so🍀
I appreciate that Brown Mark told his side of the story about his time with Prince. I don't like that he was sometimes treated harshly by Prince, but it doesn't make me love Prince any less than I already do. It just helps me see another side of him. And, to be honest, those geniuses who have the drive to make it to the top and be seen for generations as 'the greatest of all time' have an unyielding nature that is a force to be reckoned with. It's like 'get on this train and ride with me the right way, or get off and get out of my way!' Prince had it, and Michael Jordan had it as seen in the bio-pic "The Last Dance." M.J. was harsh at times, too. But, just like Prince, he was of a singular mind : "Get to the top. And if I have to move you out of my way, I'll move you out of my way." I love both of those guys, and understand their mindset. (And to be honest, what 20-something-year-old guys wouldn't become narcissistic if they have the world at their feet, they're are truly major talents/geniuses, and have been given free range to do anything musically AND in film? Most guys in that position go 'buck wild!' And, as seen with Prince, they calm down a bit in their later years.)
The Beatles were never like that. They never got big heads or narcissistic. The opposite, they were kinda humble.
Who is the biggest band of all time?
The Beatles
Top-selling artists worldwide as of 2022. Perhaps unsurprisingly, British rock band The Beatles are top of the list for best-selling artists worldwide, with 183 million units certified sales. Second is Garth Brooks with over 157 million units sales, followed by Elvis Presley with 139 million units.Dec 8, 2022.
I was never a Prince fan, but Cameo "I just Wanna Be?" That is how I ran into BrownMark. KayGees "Get down" OH YES YES YES. AAAAH, it's on YT, YES
ruclips.net/video/73ZBXE6AZ1M/видео.html
Who's the Man with the Master Plan, that too. I have about 40 90min casette tapes of this kind of stuff from heh, WAY back.
Prince? Eh, Jungle Love? America? OK. I bet BrownMark would LOVE these KayGees songs. Another divine song "Heart and Soul" by Imagination. DIVINE.
@@tanl7756 You sure of that? Even though they worked together on songs Paul and John were jealous with each other and they fought all the time. Paul because he was a workaholic and drove the other 3 crazy, John because he wanted out of the Beatles by '67. And they both didn't want George's songs on the albums because of money and ego. They really didn't he could write that well until Abbey Road.
@@Crunkboy415 FACTS!!! ☝
Oh sure. You should look more into that. The I’m bigger than Jesus comment was preciously humble 😅
Gratitude for this purple Brother!! so Real. So far in the purple universe, my top keeping real purple interviews are. 1. Cat 2.Brown Mark 3.Jessie Johnson w/Quest love 4.Jill Jones 5. Andre Simone . Those interviews give a holistic view of the purple court, a very objective look, which makes me appreciate Prince's legacy in a greater way. Ase
The interviews you mention are from people who loved and respected Prince, as Prince loved and respected them. Some of the worst interviews I have watched since Prince's death are from those closest to him in the last days. The real Thieves in the Temple. Waiting to watch them fall... Kudos to Brown Mark! This was a really great interview.
@@cindyfromwinnipeg 👊👊👊
Excellent interview. Was nice today hear Brown Mark speak and tell about his life and time with Prince and after. I pre-ordered his book from Amazon. Thank you, Michael Dean you are a fantastic interviewer.
The book is great!!
Brownmark, thank you for sharing your experiences with us. When I was a kid, I used to stare at those album covers and wonder what your lives were like. Hearing your stories brings the fantasy of Prince and the Revolution to fruition. You guys are real life heroes and I am eternally grateful for the music and the memories you helped to create.
well put
Great interview, Michael. Big Sexy asking q’s to get interesting insight. Brown Mark keeping it real. Got his higher education degree. That’s deep!
Another superb interview Michael Dean! You always ask the questions we want to hear and give the guest plenty of space to give in-depth answers. Keep workin' it like a job!
totally agree!
Mark Brown aka Brown Mark. Summer of 1979," Phantasy Band" performed at the Phyllis Wheatley Music Festival along with the Original "Flye Tyme" in North Minneapolis. Mark was the talk amongst the local musicians. Maurice Stevens (RIP) described Mark as a MOSTER ON THE BASS. A few days later Mark came to Minneapolis North High School and jammed with us in the band room with the approval of music band director Mr. Clarke. James McGregor, Jerry Hubbard (The Time and Jesse Johnson) and Tony Mosley were also in the building. Real History
10 minutes in...already knew that this was one of the best interviews!
Very true 🤲🏼❤️
I Love it. Brown Mark is right. That's how Prince brought the best out of everyone around him. It may have been harsh at times but Bet u never made the same mistake again because it sticks. That's what makes a great leader.💜
same as Jordan in b ball...prince had a great work ethic and led by example alot of the time. great leadership is right
@@michaelfrazia4569 Prince done it all well he snapped at Brown I guess Prince saw him tall huge black guy Brown may told Prince his past history on the Street life too we don’t know what really happen everyone had their own story I do feel for Brown though not nice his feeling down about Prince what a shame
@@jaajaarogers9101 agree
@@michaelfrazia4569 🤗🍁❤️
MOST LIKELY SHOULD KNOW THAT EVERYONE CANNOT BE THE LEADER JUST KNOW YOUR CAPABILITY AND RIDE IN YOUR OWN LANE TO DO OTHERWISE WOULD BE DISASTROUS DISCORD I UNDERSTAND WHY PRINCE DIDN'T SAY MUCH OTHER THAN WHAT NEEDED TO BE SAID AND DONE NOTHING WOULD HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED
PRINCE FOCUS WOULD HAVE BEEN DISTURBED 🤔
Sounds like some crazy times..very insightful interview.
Llppl
Yeah I agree but same thing still happening for black USA 🇺🇸
I’m definitely getting this book. I’ve listened to other interviews by BrownMark and it always breaks my heart to hear his hurt. Prince became a superstar. Prince tried to keep his school buddies in his life, he even tried to keep his childhood state in his life, but he excelled to such a higher level, he could no longer carry everyone with him. Will anyone of his colleagues cause the world to light up in their signature color when they leave this earth? I doubt it. Prince was a musical legend. It hurts to have the same aspirations as Prince, to stand next to him and create next to him, but to never reach his success. But BrownMark sees only the negative in this, in my opinion. He was very lucky life to be a witness to Prince’s metamorphoses. A privilege to know him as a friend. But I understand how sad it can be to want what Prince and not reach it, especially because success seemed so close at hand. I do believe he sees his truth in this, but the hurtful truth is that Prince joined another league and was no longer the small town kid. 💜
Some people just don't understand that they're simply not quite on the same level as the one they admire as an artist (or entrepreneur or whatever). Doesn't mean they can't bring anything to the table at all (Brownmark obviously could), just you shouldn't mistake working with/for somebody with being on the same level with them in all aspects.
beatz04 true! I just sense a sadness and regret among many former Prince band mates. It seems like they blame Prince for their “failures” because they didn’t reach his level of success. They are successful but to compare themselves to him, I believe is causing their pain. They think Prince caused their pain, but it’s their attitude
@@sunnypie2 I agree. I think it's especially true with Jesse and Morris Day, and to a degree Sheila as well. People should understand that an artist the caliber of Prince first and foremost has (or feels) an obligation to their gift of artistry and everything else comes second. Hence replacing band members or his whole band with different people after a while, being a control freak at times etc. Prince wouldn't have gotten to where he was if he'd made "homies first" a priority. In addition to that, i'd say he has given people a plethora of opportunities and probably a platform to get as big as they possibly could become anyway. I mean, how much further do you wanna go if you have been given the opportunity to be a part of the Prince universe ? People sometimes act as if he owed them something or more than he gave, when there is a high probability those people would have never made it that far without Prince in the first place. Yeah, Morris Day might think he would have been a better drummer than Bobby Z (and technically he might be even right) but for a long time he failed to understand that for Prince it wasn't all just about the technical skills as a drummer. Which ironically just illustrates my point, because not understanding that fact is an indication of why Morris just wasn't on the same level Prince was. Same for Jesse: He surely is one of the best guitar players out there, but in no way is he on the same level with Prince when it comes to songwriting, production, vocal chops and overall uniqueness. And to complain about the lost opportunity to establish himself as a household blues guitar player - it was his decision to go the MN sound route after Prince with his solo projects, i mean he clearly emulated his whole visual style and singing after Prince and no one forced him to. How is that Prince's "fault" ?? Eric Leeds: Throughout his whole career he has made it a point to let the world know from time to time that he would have preferred to play Jazz instead of Prince's music. Again: Who forced him to take the job he was offered ? Some people are just ungrateful. The ones that clearly understood their own strengths and took their chance to make the best out of the opportunity Prince gave them were of course Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. You rarely heard them complain, they knew they had f*cked up according to Prince's playbook, they never wanted to be the main star anyway but they surely knew how to leverage their own strengths and the fact they were a part of the Prince world. All in all, i'd even say most people of the Prince camp made most out of their chances and have nothing to complain about and for the most part, don't. But if you get to the top like Prince did, you can't please everyone anyway.
Geez i wrote a whole novel lol.
beatz04 I agree! Well said 💜. ✅
What a great insightful interview. Thank you Michael Dean. Really looking forward to the book
wow, brown mark really knows how to sell a book. i never thought i'd be interested in a book from anyone other than prince himself, but i'm highly intrigued...i wont's that book!
Me 2.
If Prince himself were writing a book he would you about how he formed 3rdeyegirl in 2012. Don't believe everything you hear.
Great interview! BrownMark’s book and audio book are excellent. I highly recommend. Mark is level headed about the success, challenges, all of it. Much admiration to his approach to life.
Thank you all, very insightful podcast.. Mayte would be an Interesting Prince podcast to hear, uncut of course.
Michael Dean, I have been listening to you for years and I have to give you credit for being great at conducting interviews. You ask great questions and, unlike some internet podcast hosts, you allow the guest to speak their mind. Too many of the other hosts online keep interrupting the guest but you are professional enough to be quiet and let them speak! Good job.
I watch Micheal Dean with ladies he interviews but I think his a typical black man who hates on black Successful men I mean he don’t even phrase or salut Mark on his huge mega Success Micheal is very jealous and envies that is wrong and unprofessional very rude man
Great interviews! Can’t wait to see the movie that comes from his book!
We all needed to hear that you've been through so much amazing my hat's off to you keep on keeping on keep on being strong
I read Dez's book and
the connection to Prince is truly unfathomable.
To not want to leave and knowing you must a duality you dealt with everyday. Having to had dealt with depression myself God bless BROWN MARK🙏
Can't wait
Mark Brown the bass legend
one thing that strikes me after hearing all of these interviews with princes old crew ..no wonder there was a big movement in Minneapolis in the late 70s and early 80s. what a bunch of classy , intelligent, and talented people in one place at the same time. .
Outstanding interview, thank u so much 4 posting👍😊
Love his honesty. Looking forward to the book.
I bet they all can benefit from closure from their trauma; because we know the glory of the entertainment but being able to get together and air out their issues,,, yea, thanx Brown Mark.
Prince himself said he had that not so nice side to him , he was a genius and perfectionist and those type of people can be grumpy let's say. I say this as a Prince fan from 1983 until present and I just adored him . Did not know the man but adored him still . I ain't mad at ya Mark.
I swear the only person you ain’t ever have on this podcast is the Purple one himself 😂😂💜💜👑
I really appreciate the sharing of music industry Intel. Brown Mark Nation Love ❤
This is coming from a True Prince friend... THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRUTH Brown Mark ! You where their and lived it at the peak... Never sway from your Truth. I have much RESPECT for you. I've been on the purple ride and been to many shows. Your story matters! Prince was human and not perfect. And if your a true Prince friend/fan YOU GET IT! Thanks for sharing your story and your talent. Much love 2 u and ur family! 💜✝️☮️
why do people think that defending prince in any capacity means thinking he was perfect...its not the same thing.
@@behavioristbusiness7372 Well some deny the Truth.. Period, they don't wanna hear it. A lot of his die hards feel it's a betrayal to pRince and what he would see as doin right by him. Not every story is a fairytale.
@@icu1905 No one said it was a fairytale. What about the grey area though? Read this--- prince.org/msg/7/77425. I am not saying grievances are not appropriate...but it seems like people are trying to turn grey into black and white.
@@icu1905 Well the truth is Prince put together 3rdEyeGirl in 2012 not 2015 - and that's just the beginning of the intervew.
@@rockssolid7471 I know when pRince did what....I followed his career since I was 13 I'm now 50....Been to more than 20 shows of All his band members....I know Truth! 💜 Danced on stage with Sheila and Morris..when I speak on pRince ....I know what TIME it izzzzz! ☮️
Great interview (as per your usual M.D.).....Thanks for giving the insight. I can't wait to read the book!
I need that book right now! It was great interview!
The 2nd book is the one he should have come out with first .
If you look up the word humility in the dictionary, you'll see BrownMark's face. Excellent interview! P love💜💜💜
Thanks for sharing your story Mark 💪🏾 gotta get the book!
IMO....I think the Revolution think that they are bigger/better than they really were. I think every band Prince had after them could out play them and personnel wise were better on their instruments especially the band with Renato, John Blackwell, Rhonda Smith. Hell The Time outplayed them in the 80s
Its amazing that people talk about how the other bands could out play The Revolution bandmembers YET,
NO other bands/bandmembers went on to have as prolific of careers in the industry overall than the Revolution musicians. Hmmm.
Yeah, the other musicians like Sonny T., Mike Bland, OF COURSE Lady R., and Levi are just that deal but really I believe its about adaptability.
The Revolution were groomed from nothing so to speak and when it really came to playing this sort of music which forever changed Pop culture, NPG and The Lovesexy Band and The other mishmash of musicians had to just follow along with what was laid down before them. Simple and plain.
Levi even talked about how he had to switch it up because playing for Prince was an altogether different beast than anything he had truly done from The Bay area.
So please stop taking digs and disrespecting Z., Dr. Fink, Lisa, Wendy-Wen, and you can't diss BrownMark.
They went on to score and do soundtracks for MAJOR motion pictures, produce platinum albums in their entirety ie; Lisa and Wendy (produced Seal's first platinum hit album). Matt Fink continued to play with P. Years after The Revolution disbanded Barbarella, and Morris Hayes were NOT the Staple, Matt Dr. Fink was until he resigned still playing from The Revolution days through to The NPG days in the first assembly of the group with Rosie. He was NEVER given a pink slip THAT'S how much of a better Keyboardist he was than Morris Hayes who later became his musical director for the later versions of NPG. Brown Mark brought Mazarati to the table and produced them. Those Boys were that deal, NO ONE in any those OTHER bands could bring the likes of Screamer, Christian, Sir Casey Terry, etc.. in and harness what they could do with that first hit from their very first album because he could play and was respected! Bobby continued to do drum tracks and session with Prince long after The Revolution disbanded. Fink,...He and Rosie resigned they weren't fired like the other NPG groups.
So stop people.
The Revolution is/was badass every bit as the other Bands just in a different way.
SMDH.
P.S. The Revolution were/are the ONLY group actually doing World Tours to the magnitude that they are.
Pretty much all of Europe and just about everywhere Prince went.
The other Band's are piecing together stints here and there because The tightness spiritually and musically cannot be replicated through just being great musicians.
The other Bands have a different spiritual vibe than The Revolution.
The people feel that as well you can't play great to get that you have to BE great and that's a natural love for this not a ego driven see me I'm this dude from The Bay, or been here in Minneapolis before everyone else doing this, or I know so and so, etc.
Remember BrownMark brought Morris Hayes to the table to audition for Prince and Morris mentioned himself he didn't think he was good enough to play. How is that possible if Morris who later became Prince's musical director felt he wasn't up to part to play with Prince and yet HE and others from NPG were better musicians than The Revolution? Doesn't make sense. STOP it. The Revolution is every bit as good than the others!
The spiritual ride....
That's most important. The experience you give the people.
You have to remember Prince spoke about giving the people that experience not just a great performance.
NPG didn't and still dont have that feel.
But they can play like NOBODY'S business, have people reminiscent on certain songs as ANY good musician, artist, band can do no doubt but, The Revolution had/has a Spiritual connection everytime because they were the first (after Andre and Dez left) and truly hand picked from obscurity because they were the best around at what they did individually.
Check the files. Let's stop dumping on the first to do it with Prince. If it weren't for The Revolution, there would be NO blueprint for the other so-called BETTER musicians to follow and yes Levi Seacer Jr. explained there was a blueprint THEY still had to follow JUST like The Revolution. Remember the bands after The Revolution STILL had to play the songs like Prince said to play them and Brown Mark was the ONLY Bass player EVEN over Sonny T., who Prince himself said was the best bass player he ever had and Sonny T. was an early idol of Prince's! If I'm not mistaken BrownMark is with The Revolution right? So not all those OTHER musicians or bands were better than The Revolution musicians. Lmao!!! STOP IT, STOP it.
Be Nice.
@@c.i.8317 ......I'm entitled to my opinion. So stop being a sensitive crybaby.
Agreed
@@c.i.8317 - I agree with your opinion on The Revolution.
:-)
Great conversation. What a genuine dude. I'm on Amazon now to purchase his book.
Housequake, Sign O' The Times, The Ballad of Dorothy Parker, Starfish and Coffee, U Got the Look, Hot Thing, The Cross, Adore, Forever in my Life, etc. were written by Prince. The Time's songs were written by Prince, Sheila E's, the Family's... Prince's death doesn't change that.
In all fairness, not all of the Time songs were written solely by him. Jungle Love's basic melody was Jesse. I have heard the demo. But that being said, people do lie about Prince and exaggerate their input sometimes--Sheila E still trying to say she wrote Glamorous Life...Nope, that is provably wrong..(by studio logs, his original demo, Jill Jones, and sound engineers). The truth is that the reality is messy and grey. And Jesse accidently didn't give credit to Prince once for his very original production and arrangement of the song "Do Yourself A Favor" 'and only gave credit to the original writer Pepe Willie and himself. So things happen. SOTT songs are basic blueprints redone after the Rev left...(not talking about Crystal Ball and Dream Factory though).
@@behavioristbusiness7372 In all fairness, Prince was one of the greatest songwriters of the modern pop era.
Jimmy Jam:
www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7348342/jimmy-jam-remembers-prince
Prince was the principal songwriter for The Time. [Singer] Morris Day contributed a little, but Terry Lewis and I didn’t contribute much. We had song ideas. At the end of the Controversy tour, we were sitting around a hotel room, just the Time members, and Terry said, “I want to go to L.A. and make some demos. They need us out there.” And this will mark the time for you -- everybody’s answer to Terry was, “Man, you're crazy. I'm saving my money for a VCR.” A VCR! So I said, “Terry, I'll go.”
@@rockssolid7471 You must not have been following my defenses of Prince all the way through the comment sections...but we need to pay attention to the nuances. If we don't acknowledge those exceptions like Jesse's melody for Jungle Love (which everyone has accepted as fact and which has a demo), then we lose our credibility while defending Prince. But you are right, Prince did most of the Time music on the first two albums. Morris played drums, prince added bass, keyboards, melody, lyrics and invited others to contribute solos etc every once in a while like Dr. Fink and Lisa contribute a few lyrics to the Stick.
@@behavioristbusiness7372 Don't forget Morris gave him "Party Up" which was a Bass & Drum track he had and Prince offered $10,000 or a recording contract, which Morris choose the latter.
@@GaryTisdaleFungkSta1 Okay? What's your point?
Wow, this was insightful. Love 2 Lisa cause she was like a momma grizzly, growling at Prince 2 leave him alone. The infamous Rolling Stones opening and the booing. I laughed that Brownmark got hit with a bag of fried chicken. LOL.
BROWNMARK ONE OF THE FUNKEST PLAYERS TO COME ALONG THAT'S PURE FUNK NO GIMMICS
That "Minneapolis" intro music is
*S L A P P I N' !
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 !
I just watched 2 interviews of Prince's VERY 1st bass players (Andre and Mark) and realized that he worked with not only musical geniuses (MUCH like himself) but also the COOLEST 😎 cats on the WHOLE planet!💯💯💯 MUCH respect 2 these guys!👍👍👍
andre is a real one
i loved prince earlier work but he was a mental and physical abuser that took advantage of his bandmates. and anyone disagree ..they in lala land and just looking at his talents. u shouldnt take advantage of someone helping u to get to where u are. Thats why prince had each of them sign disclosure forms. He's dead and they still scared to tell the whole truth. They sugar coat the abuse and beat around the bush. But if U pay attention and read inbetween the lines..U can put it together.
Mark Brown hasn't worked for Prince 1986. He 'retired' in 1992, so seems he is doing just fine, most of us have to hustle for work all our lives. But feel free to support the lazy... and live in lala land.
PREACH........ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE TIME WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.......SO WOULD ANDRE CYMONE AND HIS FAMILY
That’s what a band leader has to be like, he’s not there to baby sit ppl...
Prince worked a thousand times harder than anyone else and he knew how to make an idea successful, that's his secret of success. No one would probably know a Morris Day without Prince. Prince was the driving power and a workaholic, spending most times of his life in stdios without windows and sunlight, not sleeping a lot and always producing. Who else wants that kind of a dark life? Are Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis the two only guys around Prince who I ve never heard saying a bad word about Prince?
Respect to Brownmark for redrawing his life and creating his own path…
Mark is the man on the bass. I hate that he’s the only member of the Revolution that didn’t have a single line in the Purple Rain Movie.
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But you must admit that he does a intensely thorough job of looking at his watch powerfully and with a righteousss indignation that represents an inner-exposition of turmoil and realisation, devastatingly culminating in a cute face.
I always thought he didn't speak because he was too cool to even acknowledge the rest of the band ... at least 8 year old me did.
@@NOWtheband I agree, that was a memorable scene in the movie.
There was a lot of footage from Purple Rain that ended up on the cutting room floor. Mark had speaking parts but they were surrounded by parts that were cut. It's not like Matt and Bobby had a whole lot to say but I will say that in paying attention to Brown Mark's appearances in concert footage, etc. He often seems obscured.
i loved loved loved this interview. Some lead with intimidation (legal). Brown Mark painted the apprehension
picture. Thank you so much
fantastic interview . all the antidotes and insight .
Love brown mark!! Legendary!
ANOTHER Great Interview! Thx Mike & Co. & Brownmark! I always wanted to hear Brownmark's story, especially after hearing about the whole, "Kiss" and Mazarati situation-and I also felt that Brown didn't get all the props he should have gotten. Looking fwd to reading the book. Thx Again. Continued Success!
Prince was a little devious!
Yeah lol 😂 tiny little thing but yet didn’t want no one above him with out his Consent
Prince was young too..... Mark is elevated.... he is smart and operates out of love and growth.... love this human! And A True .......you all mattered....it does count!
I REALLY NJOY'D THIS INTERVIEW WITH BROWNMARK. I CAN'T WAIT 2 GET MY PREORDERED COPY & I DO HOPE AS HE SAID, THAT I'LL GET MY COPY SOONER THE THE PROJECTED RELEASE DATE. THANX GUYS 4 THE INTERVIEW. B SAFE, LOVE4ONEANOTHER & MAY WE LIVE 2 C THE DAWN.
Great interview Brotha Dean.
I dont know what it is about this show but I am really feeling it.
Engineer/producer David Z provided the history of the Kiss. Mark's contribution to the final song were his background vocals. Prince handed David melody and lyrics to Kiss, they handed in a hum drum tune but Prince liked David's additions so kept those and gave him credit. The stripped down, minimalist, bass-less falsetto funk piece, with signature guitar fluorish, melody and lyrics, final product was Prince. Prince's original demo - ruclips.net/video/XXMGp_7vl8w/видео.html
Parts of David Z's interview in Sound on Sound - Prince 'Kiss':
www.soundonsound.com/people/prince-kiss
"One day, he called me and said, 'There's a group that I've just signed and want you to have something to do with. Come to LA.' So, I went there, walked into Sunset Sound, and he said, 'You're going to produce this group called Mazarati.' That was the first time I'd been labelled a producer, which I'm very grateful for. It got me started.”
"Anyway, starting with a LinnDrum, I programmed the beat and began experimenting. Taking a hi-hat from the drum machine, I ran it through a delay unit and switched between input and output and in the middle. That created a very funky rhythm. Then I took an acoustic guitar, played these open chords and gated that to the hi-hat trigger. The result was a really unique rhythm that was unbelievably funky but also impossible to actually play... I'm sure that sound influenced the fabulous new Daft Punk song 'Get Lucky', because it uses the same trick, with the guitar gated to some sort of rhythm and sequencer.
"Next, I remembered a little piano part from a Bo Diddley song called 'Say Man' and put it on there, and then Tony Christian sang the lead part, an octave lower than what Prince wound up doing. The background vocals I adapted from the Brenda Lee song 'Sweet Nothings' - good music is always taken from somewhere else - and that was that. The whole thing was done in a day.”
Hijacked
Or David Z and the guys in Mazarati thought it was. The fact is, in this form 'Kiss' sounded OK - a so-so dance number. However, Tony Christian's lead vocal was a little soulless and uninspiring, and when Prince heard the track he decided to head in a different direction... with himself at the helm.
"When I came back into the studio the next morning, Prince had already taken it off the machine, replaced the vocal with his own falsetto performance - which, I guess, he felt it needed - got rid of the bass part and added a James Brown 'Papa's Got A Brand New Bag' guitar lick,” Z recalls. "'What happened?' I asked, to which he replied, 'It's too good for you guys. I'm taking it back.'”
Boasting a four-octave range, Prince sang virtually the entire song in head voice, reverting to chest voice for the final line, as well as a single note before the last chorus. "At the time, I think he was into using a [Sennheiser MD] 441,” says Z.
"It was so different to everything else out there that the Warner Brothers executives freaked out when they first heard it,” David Z confirms. "I was going to get credit as the producer, arranger, everything, but when I talked to the Warners A&R guy he said, 'Oh man, Prince really screwed up. It sucks.' I thought, what? My heart just hit the floor. He said, 'It sounds like a demo. There's no reverb, there's no bass - it's terrible.'
"I was shaken and really disappointed. At that time, however, Prince had enough power to go, 'That's the single and you're not getting another one until you put it out.' The rest is history."
David Z was there too. This is called critical thinking. David is also a very very good musician as well.
@@behavioristbusiness7372 Really, what bands does he play with?
Amazing story this needs to be a movie.
I love to hear all the Prince stories! 💜💜💜
True great best era 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼❤️
@@EbonyJ-rt5bb yeah great era music 🎶 fashion The Global was way better than now
@@EbonyJ-rt5bb very wrong Prince telling Brown to fly out twice for work but leaves him in hotel for two days without getting with him that is wrong and disrespectful Prince didn’t respect Brown
To much commercial gee wiz. Can’t relax and listen,,,,, gtreedy
Yall need to put this on spotify man
You be safe beloved Mark ...... before you write that second book... of the darkness, we need this more than ever yet it can be dangerous.... we’ve crossed paths many times, Mpls girl..your age group, was there before the fame.......please write this next book 💜🖤💜👊🏽
You can’t go through life saying WHY WHY! We all experience those in life. He quit the Revolution before the band broke up. He has been responsible for his own life. Dr Fink and Bobbie have been so genuine and respectful of what they all shared with Prince. Finally he thinks he is leader of the Revolution and where he wants to be. I have been on this earth so much longer than you and been where you are going. It amazes me how much more you need to mature. You and you alone are responsible for your life as you are living it, if you are making the decisions.
brownmark...the legend
Brown is full of it - 3rdEyeGirl was put together in 2012 (not 2015) their album Plectrumelectrum was released in 2014. Bassist Ida Nielson had been working with Prince from 2010. So Prince did not fly Brown out in 2015 for the project as claimed.
"Right before Prince passed a year before he passed, he had flown me up to Minneapolis because he wanted me to look into a project with him. This new thing he was putting together - it ended up being 3rdEyeGirl - which, I'm not a girl so I didn't fit the bill, but it was going to be something different for that. So we got to talking and... "
Dude hasn't done much since 1986 - actions speak louder than words. Prince elevated Mazarati by providing their only 'hit' - 100mph.
There was an interview in which Prince stated that he hired Ida in 2010 because his other bassist didn't know all his songs and she did. She learned them. I always wondered who that other bassist was.
Film Fan going off the timing, it’d have to be Josh Dunham. By the time he used Rhonda again, he moreso used the Musicology trio & did more jazz stuff
Yes, he does sound very bitter about Prince moving on. Wendy and Lisa spoke about. When the Parade tour was over they were fired. Prince was the genius. True that there were many gatekeepers back then but they still exist today.
Mazar
Prince being a control freak will always have conflict when you bud heads with him 2 strong minded.
Yet as he got older he got more mellow yellow and left a surprise 2 all that worked along side him !
Retirement will B sweet like the golden parachute, he was very wise just a little disabled in the end
@blacknight39 No, but time is off the essence. Do You Believe ?
Prince paid the price of trying to change the fairness of the industry. His words “ just when you think you are safe” are him telling his fans that he has lost control of his situation. Seeing a policeman in America overdose from Fentanyl while searching a car and knowing how much of that drug was in Princes body, every person who touched him would be affected by the drug.
Loved the book what an interesting life great guy and also sad too x
What a life 😮 Wow I HAVE TO PURCHASE YOUR BOOK YOU GUYS WERE SOMETHING ELSE 👏🏽 INTERESTING INTERVIEW 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
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You know I see it like this. People in this life are chosen a path based on the events surrounding their lives. It's like what Prince wrote on his Controversy Album. Children only imitate their atmosphere. Life for Prince was, here is my Dad, a genius musician. He was frustrated for not taking his life to the ultimate with his indelible gift. He was challenged in life with his size and his circumstances. Trust issues. He internalized and imagined and realized all of this success. He probably didn't know how the outcome would be. In come people on the road. He had to protect that vision. Brown Mark coming into his life adventitiously. So there is no circumventing here, you have to be sharp. He is not going to cut the ckae even. He doesn't have too. In fact management wouldn't allow him too. He said they were a Band. Yes,they were. Prince's Band regardless what he says. They were their because he was there. The head chef like Wendy evokes truthfully in public. He was the head chef with the vision. Was he perfect ? No!. But, we know all of them,because he existed. Publicly anyway. I still like his story,he has come into his own. I had the chance to see him play with Prince in Madison Square Garden. He's tall Brother. Prince kind of had him in the background on the Parade tour. But his presence was potent in the band.
This should be available on Barnes and noble for the nook
Fascinating!! Looking forward to this book & the next...
And the other question Big sexy will have to ask 😂😂✌🏽❤️🙏🏽👍🏽
I know it's been over 30 years but I believe that vanity and chick were with Prince during 1999 at the same time. Vanity left right before Purple Rain over money from what I've read. But I think her and Prince was still together around 1999, (rolling stone cover of the time) also, appolonia also did go onstage in the syracuse performance, I don't know if she was a regular but to say she was never on stage is a mistake. People's memories get fuzzy.
yep
I'm listening to Brownmark! He was there, we weren't!
@@stephaniemeals4983 even when he contradicts himself?
@@mozfonky He ain't contradicting himself. He was there, you wasn't. How do you know?!
@@stephaniemeals4983 he is contradicting himself if he says two different things, do you understand stephanie?
Mark Brown I thought that you were an angry MAN BUT AFTER LISTENING TO THIS PODCAST I CAN UNDERSTAND YOU MORE AND APPRECIATE YOU MORE 2 TOGETHER ARE BETTER THAN ONE ALONE ONE THING FOR SURE EVERYONE CAN NOT BE THE LEADER
Dose anyone really believe Prince spent his life holding back all the talent he came across or made so great that he felt insecure. Mark, with respect, you need to consider therapy before you start your next book because you simply cannot blame anyone for your lack of reaching your dreams. You and you are alone are responsible for your life. That greatest band you played in was not your band. It was the creation of a genius who made it successfully, his way.
exactly
It didnt stop Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis they are well respected musicans and producers.😁
Those last two sentences are certainly true!
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Facts
Agree…..everybody is on Sheila for doing her own thing! Wasn’t that they were supposed to do?
I know the fanatics don't want to hear it, but a lot of the division in the Prince camp was caused by PRINCE. He often pitted people against one another. He liked to mess with people's heads.
I think it was his hairstylist who said something similar
@@silvermist1216 Prince was extremely insecure and manipulative. He was an undeniable star, but that didn't change the mindset that was created by his unstable childhood. Somewhere along the way, he learned to use people to his advantage.
@@user-gi6ee8vj1y Prince wasn't the only hustler or insecure manipulator. the industry is filled with them.
@@silvermist1216 His hair stylist has no room to talk. Kim Berry is a fraud in many ways.
@RR great perspective and one that a lot of fans don't want to admit to. I'm curious who do you feel p pitted against each other?
Great interview
Yeah great one 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼very wrong for Prince keep playing with Brown back and forth twice that is very rude and disrespectful I mean if Brown is saying the truth this isn’t good at all a long term band member and supporter off Prince work Prince looked down on Brown that is not cool
@@jaajaarogers9101 yeah that was rude
@@demetrimeko yeah extremely rude and don't respect Brown imagine someone calling you twice making you fly out like a clown wow l think Prince is very cruel and evil his known as kind helping man but I guess only to sexy ladies has an issue with black famous men his sure inherited black genes hating on each other when it come to fame and riches
Please Mike Dean interview Lisa Coleman. She was there during a pivotal point in his career. Prince Podcast!!!!!!!!!
Go to FUNKNSTUFF's RUclips page (he interviewed Lisa and it's one of the BEST Prince related interviews I've ever heard)!
Stay true Mark, don’t let fans take you from real.....
There ya go!!!!👍
Wow,Morris has very similar stories when it comes to Prince and his actions towards them.Calling them out of the Blue for something music wise and then to have absolutely nothing materialize out of it.Damn,almost identical. Geez!!
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Love this book, but when you read it you’ll see there is a similarity the way Mark’s description of how his friends said about his “initiation “ into the group and the kick. You have to read it to understand how he describe it . BRILLIANT
I think Patty was Apollonia's original name.
that's right, patricia kotero, maybe whoever wrote the chick book got them mixed up. Vanity's name was Denise.
No Patty is vanity’s sister Patricia Matthews
Yes, as well as Vanity's sister (and many others!)
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Great interview...
Brown mark is the funkiest bass player Prince ever had hands down.
Fascinating. He's not jus some dude who looks at his watch.
Lol 😆
Hahahaha
Wished mark would have talked bout how he felt when he heard when doves cry for the first time and that it didn’t contain any bass though the whole song. Did he think this was gonna be the beginning of the end of him being in the group
He needs to do the taking for the revolution. Wendy and him look like Prince., Give that type experience
Hi 8 think this is one the most young man pic i ever seen ya grew up in your peers group an set ya goal an achieve it an did all your stunts music performancws 8 never forget this 8 cant bel8eve u guys stuck to your dreams was devoted an dec8ated its some time its hard to find people to st8ck here some out there but this was all life power in this band the plays u guys put on like magic good luck
Wow! Great interview. I always love BrownMark’s approach to his bass playing. He’s very funky! PLUS; he’s OBVIOUSLY a ‘Jazz Bass’ guy! A man after my own heart!😌🎶❤️👍🏾
Yeah I was relished he was talented always playing beside Prince I don’t understand why he so upset 😭 about though he made his money 💰 branded his name Brown you got to bless it move on Prince is dead now it could be this black with black men working together this is a problem through Generations through times
@@jaajaarogers9101 Hmm. You got a point there.🤔🎶👍🏾
best bassist he ever had …..No disrespect to Andre Cymone, Rhonda Smith and other's who were in the band as his bassist..
A bassist who has hardly worked in music for the last 34 years, 'retired' in 1992. Most folks hustle for employment all their lives.
Sonny was better!
Sonny T, said to be Prince's teacher for many things!?
GREAT VIDEO...TRYING TO GET ENOUGH INFO ABOUT THAT GROUP. ALOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND...ALOT OF PEOPLE SOLD THEIR SOUL IN THIS INDUSTRY..AND ONCE U SELL YOUR SOUL..THAT IT...CAN'T GET IT BACK...FACT !!!!
Dope..
I have this book now.
1:14:00 - When BrownMark is talking about sign of the times he’s sort of wrong but he is also partially correct. As early spring of 1986 dream factory would’ve been the next revolution album or project and we know he used a lot of Wendy and Lisa at that time. Yet once the album changed into being crystal ball before it became sign of the times and that was mostly a solo effort from Prince. So was Camille was a solo effort in Sept/Oct 86’. By the time September - October 1986 the revolution was no more. He sounds very bitter to me yet I look forward to his book. Very fascinating interview.
Best bass player Prince ever had.
Best bass player Prince ever had was Prince.
Dave Grohl - "I gotta say, that dude is the most talented musician I've ever seen in my entire life... Best fckn bass player I've ever heard in my life." Take a listen - ruclips.net/video/1kUJbbw7hfM/видео.html
The biggest difference in perspective between P & the Revolution (especially Wendy, Lisa & Mark) is that P seemed to ultimately see the Revolution (& Morris, Andre, etc) as extensions of himself...not much different than say, his Linn Drum machine; while THEY saw the entire group as a BAND (one for all, all for one...MUCH like Mark himself described Mazarati, ironically). So when after starting an ultra collaborative album like Dream Factory and then P fires them, they're stunned. I get both sides of it: P incentivized them to give him their all by making them feel like a part of the process...but he was ALWAYS going to be the Jordan to their Bulls regardless...And notice they almost ALL to a person dropped everything they were doing and came when P called?
Andre quit. Lisa and Wendy threatened to quit and then were fired. Mark started to want his own band and expressed discontent and then quit after the ladies were fired. Fink stuck around and never worked outside the band as far as I know. Prince had abandonment issues and was originally promoted as a one-man band..how do you think he would respond to people doing side projects, threatening to quit and wanting more credits and input? And by the way, Mark talked about Mazarati...like he was Mazarati..not just a member of their band. Ironic that he doesn't mind referring to himself that way but can't even call Prince his boss.
People constantly underestimate the skill with which Prince created the Revolution band to his high expectations. He arranged the music and had the band practise until he was satisfied with the sound of the band. Warner Brothers signed Prince alone as an artist, then told him to get a band to go on tour. Prince first several albums were him alone playing all instruments. WB paid the band through Prince.The band was not signed to WB, hence Prince could fire them. Prince brought the best of a person’s talent to the forefront because he was a great band leader.
this is mark brown speaking. the normal kind of guy that is Not 2b confused with
Brown Mark, bass player of the Revolution .
Amazing!
Big Sexy set it off for me talkin about his Coronavirus 'fro😂😂😂😂
Great interview, @mdean.👏🏿👏🏿 You ask great questions. I really like that you did not ask BrownMark the "typical" P/Revolution questions! Also, thanks for avoiding the spoilers!
I heard BrownMark on "another podcast"
Let's just say that Mark seemed way more chill here w/you (Just sayin').
Appreciate this statement at 6:30-7:30 ~>real deal👏🏿.
IMO, I don't think BrownMark sounds "angry". Ppl need to get a grip that sometimes P was not right, even to those closest to him. Some in the purple universe have P floating on some purple
cloud--as if he's not subject to criticism.
BrownMark sums it best at 44:44-45:15
Anyway, cool interview. 👏🏿👏🏿 I plan to check out his book now. Btw, I kept an open mind and read Mayté's book thanks to Podcast Juice review.😁
People don't sanctify Prince like that. No one is saying Mark Brown has to sugar-coat. You might be missing the point of why some fans are weary of this book.
"People don't sanctify Prince like that." Interesting statement. Perceptions of Prince vary but that is not what I see happening in the purple fandom...not before and certainly not after P's passing. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of BrownMark and others in the purple camp. I just don't have to ride with it. Peace.
@@LMichelle_bklyn88 They glorify his work and legacy. But podcasts and panel discussion and fan discussions that air grievances are not rare. Almost all the books (except for a few photo books) contain criticisms and complaints as well.. People talk about his bad side all the time... (sometimes the interviewers are actually asking them to tell them something bad about him.) Just because they don't elaborate on it fully or lose their temper discussing it , it doesn't mean its not discussed. It is sad to me that if a podcast or interview doesn't at least include one indication of him being unkind, people assume that is sanctification. Is it wrong to focus on the good sides of people? None of us are without faults.. including the people talking ABOUT Prince's. But really its not discussing his faults that is the problem...it is about balance. Sometimes, when people say they love Prince and that he was family and then proceed to ONLY discuss his faults (I have seen this happen), it makes me totally doubt their sincerity...like saying they love him is merely obligatory. They do such a piss poor job of explaining why they love him IN SPITE of his faults, that I just assume that they don't really love him at all. PRN alumni discussions can be this way sometimes.
@@LMichelle_bklyn88 You haven't been on Prince.org then. The word "asshole" is not uncommonly used in description of him on his own fan page. Hardcore fans, ironically, sometimes were his harshest critics...especially the ones from the 80's.
@@behavioristbusiness7372 I stand by my original statement that perceptions of Prince vary, as I have read on many platforms through the years, including prince.org. Again, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I don't have to ride with certain opinions regardless how long(or short) or amount of times one attempts making their argument(s). Peace✌🏽
If MB thought he deserved writing credit for certain songs he should have taken Prince to court, it happens all the time.
shout out bro I used to play Bass with GRANDJURY with Lance A buddy Mike brown, good luck on the book.
there's an interview where Mark says he last spoke with him a year or so before he passed, he also said prince asked him "where's your guitar" as if he didn't know he played bass. in this interview he says the last time was before third eye which would have to be somewhere around 2012.
Yes, his dates are really off because he wasn't in the picture after the Revolution was disbanded. Times was mostly all Prince. I read the liner notes on the CDs. I say CDs because I became a fan in 89 and bought the 80s albums in the 90s. Sounds like the 80s were awesome, I was a kid then.
I would love to come to the Minneapp and Play some Bass Paisley Style. I would play for FREE!