3:16 gotta disagree. The honeymoon phase is definitely a real thing, especially when a game of this caliber and the amount of hype it had, turns out to be somewhat underwhelming. Like if u literally worked all summer, almost blew through 2k, and were literally bought and entire console just for this game, while counting down the days, and it ends up being disappointing, your going to be in a honeymoon phase and completely gloss over all of the games flaws and issues and only look at the positive like i did.
The game was quite political which is why people criticize it for being woke. 1 - The first thing that happens is in an early mission there's some multiracial street gang is robbing a gun club. Peter goes on a ridiculous anti-gun tirade about how gun clubs don’t belong in the city and how we need “complement clubs” instead. Yeah Peter, it’s real easy for you to say that no one needs guns when you’re a superhero that can eat bullets and punch through brick walls. 2 - Not long after, Harry offers Peter a job at Oscorps new science facility, which is focused on utopian liberal projects like developing GMO crops (oh, and the game has a throwaway line about these GMO crops being “ethical”) and climate engineering. 3 - Then there's an early side mission where you have to solve a puzzle at a collection of “BIPOC” murals. Yes, the game drops that word multiple times. 4 - Then the college fair Miles goes to has a Planned Parenthood booth advertising abortion services to teenagers. 5 - The Spanish language version uses gender neutral words that don't exist in Spanish. 6 - There are ukraine and pride flags everywhere, such as when you first go into the science center and look at the scientists' desks, and even BLM posters. 7 - There are lots of other woke details in the environment like all gender bathrooms. Characters have been uglified, Mary Jane in particular looks like she just got a facial reconstruction from Mr. Magoo. This is about as "in your face" as you can be without just outright adding dialogue directly saying these things.
I’ll defend a few things. I think a lot of the environmental elements are just things that can probably be found in New York. There are probably a lot of pride flags and BLM flags in New York. Also, maybe it’s just me, but Mary Jane looks pretty normal to me? There’s a difference, sure, but she just looks a bit older. Reminds me of how Amy Adams looks. If you prefer her old design, that’s absolutely fine! I just don’t get, how is that a “liberal” thing?
@@Mr_Mimestamp it's a liberal thing because of feminists which align themselves with the left. Basically they say "women aren't for the male gaze" and they want less attractive women in games as to not create unrealistic beauty standards, pleasing males, etc. Its a big part of gamer gate.
Spider-Man PS4 was a banger in almost every department and we cannot forget that it was critizied for multiple things some stupid. Like puddle gate, mary jane mission, and many of the side missions being use collectables. The writing in itself was spot on cause it was direct and felt original for spiderman, side characters were iffy. So all in all it was an great game with some issues that could be looked over. Spider-Man 2 though is a great game with issues that cannot be looked over and is to prominent to not discuss cause its crazy some of the stuff that is funbled in the writing and even gameplay. I was already questioning the introduction mission as Peter was saying Web Wings were in Beta, but he had nano-bot arms stabbing sand enemies from his back, it just didnt add up. Especially later on where it feels like much of the story or even mission were cut, which didn't happen in the first game. Where the first game felt like there was more content and they provided DLC. Spider-Man 2 was able to polish a lot what was wrong in Spider-Man, but then cut back on other stuff, especially in story, but to me Miles Morales game had dog ass writing too.
miles arc in the game was amazing and spiderman 2 inproved everything spiderman ps4 did the web wings were a prototype so what?! the spider arms( get it right) hitting people (not stabing them) is because IT IS FICTION and where does it feel like where missions got cut
2:54 i agree. it seems like they went for a more, plasticky look with the models, and while in some scenes it looks good, in most it lacks the facial details from mm. like it looks like everybody is made up of playdough lmao.
I'm skipping SM3 cause looking at the botched faces of Peter and MJ for a full story campaign honestly kinda creeps me out. I don't understand why Insomniac is suddenly so bad with faces when the original game was so good in that regard. What broke the camel's back for me was the flashback "high school Peter", I cannot express with words how uncanny valley that looked to me.
1:54 im not sure why your shocked? the first game had an amazing story and one of the best adaptions modern adaptations of spiderman ever and is exactly how u should translate spiderman into the modern era. It tred similar territory with its plot but executed it in way to get the player emotionally invested in world and characters, allowing new players and spiderman fans to learn about this character's world and relationships, while giving us more experienced spiderman fans an emotionally compelling story and an excellent retelling of a classic spiderman tale. simply put, despite Spiderman's 2 attempt to recreate that same effect by basically using the firsts games story beats, beat for beat, it simply couldn't strike lightning twice, because of insomniac either, treading too far away from the source material, rush story aspects, lack of focus, ideas that were not fleshed out or were not given enough time, bad pacing, and overall a downgrade in writing it just fails to capture that same effect from the first game. This is mainly because the first game had actual comic book writers writing the game, while this game has more new, inexperienced writers, and it shows through the dialogue. I feel like I could've written a better story than this tbh.
Perfect comment its like you read my mind and honest to God the writers of Spiderman 2 should be banned from touching anything Spiderman related I'm dead serious
I think that Spider-Man 2 has it's qualities, but it's like every character has the same ass personality. Games actually need to stop giving f's about being offensive to someone because what you end up with like in SM2's case is lifeless, straight to the point and emotionless lines like (and i shit you not): "So you like breaking things? How about i break you?" (Peter has a chance to say that line when he has the symbiote. It might be slightly different than how i remember it but it was something along those lines)
the only example you give of "ass personalities" is when peter has the simbiote WHICH MAKES PETER MORE MAD THE MORE HE USES IT so what your ganna be mad that kraven is evil when he is the villain?!
@@user-silentnight1234 That was- not my point... and I didn't say the personalities are ass (but rather that they are all the same as in filtered), they have the same (ass) personalities. There was no comma between "same" and "ass". That's how English works.
@@user-silentnight1234 Your whole argument was based off of you not understanding basic english wdym nobody cares 💀 I said they were the same, not ass, I said they were the "same ass personalities" and not "same, ass personalities". "Same, ass" would mean that they are the same AND ass. "same ass personalities" is like saying "the exact same" or "identical"
Honestly if anyone’s complaining about the game being too “safe” or “woke”, it’s kind of the fan’s fault…. They complain about everything nowadays and are spoiled beyond belief, so companies try to play it safe too often to please the common demographic. (Or to appease those people who complain so much about every little thing)
10:00 have to disagree, already mentioned this but something clearly changed. if you tell me that you were not emotionally invested when aunt may died in s1 than idk what to tell u. The first game had actual comic book writers writing the game, while this game has more new, inexperienced writers, and it shows through the dialogue. I feel like I could've written a better story than this tbh.
yall rami fans with your ps2 spiderman game are stupid tje game is outdated and just sucks the game is slow and the voice acting is so bad and the arkham games are better
Might just be me but i honestly like 2 more than 1, Mj becomes a more improved char imo Miles is more interesting Kraven and venom feel way more like actual threats than otto and Li And the gameplay is wayy better. I think most people who hate the game are dissapointed by it because they expected rdr2 levels of writing with the entire gameplay being reworked, and also for some reason expected venom to be an exact 1 to 1 adaptation of the comics version when the devs been stated they werent doing that(yes its valid to dislike venom in the game but its actual brain rot to only hate him because hes not like the comic's version, i dont understand why some comic fans beg for originality then complain when something isnt like the source material) 💀
Me personally I love both games equally. From a gameplay perspective, I loved it more than one because the combat is a lot more fun with more energy variety and moves and the web swinging is so satisfying. From a story perspective, I honestly don’t know which one I like more. I think I may lean a little bit more towards 2 because I actually got to play through it for myself while with the first game I watched some RUclipsr’s playthrough of it because 1. I didn’t have a ps4. And 2. I didn’t even know the game existed until people started playing it 😅. So, yeah. That’s my take personally.
I also agree, MJ is a better character than from the 1st game, people only hate on her because of her sections or that she’s apparently “ugly” she grew to be someone that the Spider-Men can trust like on the field like stealing the meteor from the symbiotes to bring back to the foundation, the 1st game, she goes wherever she wants to without letting Peter know and just puts herself in tight situations and gets mad at Peter for saving her life when she tried sneaking into one of the sable bases Miles also grew as a character in this game, he made room for better things in his life, reformed his biggest enemy, and finished his college essay, he even came a long way as to even helping Peter take off the symbiote and even decides that he’ll go solo and let Peter take a break, Harry, he’s not annoying as his movie or comic book counterparts where he just hates on Peter for thinking that he killed his dad or something like that As for Peter, he finally learned to let some things go and that he can’t take on everything by himself whereas he relies on MJ to keep his house not be up for sale or on Miles for Spider-Man duties, he still holds some of his responsibilities, but he’s learned to be a little chill on them Overall though, this game is tied with Spider-Man 1 as my favorite game ever
Spiderman 2 would have been better if they killed off Peter in the first thirty minutes and then had Miles go on a revenge missiok tearing through the city only to get to Venom or Kraven at the end and be like, "Nah revenge bad." - This guy probably.
Don’t worry the Sucide Squad Kill the justice league already followed the last of us 2 beats they didn’t just kill Arkham Batman they killed they the Arkham universe
lmao I almost forgot about those videos. It was a more simple time back then. I remember wanting to do an elden ring modpack but I think any minecraft series would have to be on a second channel.
I think many people forget or don’t know that Spider-Man is rated T for Teen. The Last of Us is rated M for Mature. Huge difference in what you can do in the writing department. I don’t agree that the story in Spider-Man 2 is bad or has bad writing. Less character maybe? But that’s not a bad thing impo. It clicked with me because of the introduction of Vernon and Kraven’s darker demeanor. I can understand fans of Spider-Man not clicking with the more serious tone of Spider-Man 2 though. There are things that I do believe were very well deserved of an award. The technology and, sure, voice acting at least. However, I was so infuriated with all the damn woke messaging I’m glad it didn’t win anything. This crap need to stop. Are these strong messages really that necessary? It’s honestly very distasteful.
Hate to sound like a Redditor, but I genuinely can’t think of any other word to describe this game/team other than “embarrassing” I don’t feel like listing all of the advantages they had and still fumbled on, but I know that comes off as me making a statement with no argument to back it up, so if someone is curious as to what my reasons are then I guess I can list them in the replies later on. But regardless I think it shows a lack of competence in both the actual marvel/game writing team, and the overall gameplay development team as well, I’ve seen countless developers with less than half the budget, team size, and experience create games way better than this, which is tragic because personally I really loved what the first game had to offer, wasn’t my ideal perfect Spider-Man game but it had showings of potential for future games. Oh well
I was agreeing until that Last Of Us 2 Bombshell, i think it’s one of the worst written games of all time, with a very terrible story. still, good video.
@@user-vivi228 It is an opinion, if you disagree with it that’s fine, don’t go out trying to cry about it though, you are not gonna change it, and it is impossible for it to be a wrong opinion since it is entirely subjective.
Tbh, when Spider-Man release on PC i finally have a chance to play it but unfortunately i got bored so fast and it doesn’t hype me up to play even more except installing mods and do photoshoots for my wallpaper. What makes dislike on this game as well is: - how Spider-Man hores on the internet like Raimi fans and Webb fans are annoying as hell for overpraising a game that respect to the lore but somehow they’re ungrateful and blind jealousy over MCU suit in the game and how insomniac didn’t put raimi and asm suit in the game until DLC and Remastered. - I don’t know if Insomniacs are telling the truth when jt comes to changing his face, but somehow the obvious reason why they change his face and retexture to a babyface tom holland accurate is because they did this on purpose as a vendetta against spider-man hores. - The first game easily makes me bored and I’m sorry to say this but i’d rather play the previous spider man game from 2004-2011. The web-swings, combat, and daily missions are my core of playing Spider-Man games and too bad Marvel Spider-Man makes me bored. - Lastly my complain to this game would be S Jane Watson * cough* I mean Mary Jane including her stealth mission, I can’t stand her even hearing her sue lines🤢
I think the game play is great and the story is whatever. By the end of it I didn't feel blown away by the story, there was just certain little bit's I really liked and certain little bits I didn't. If you like the characters, it's fair to assume you just like the broad concept of Spider-man that these characters embody just like any other Spidey, but you like their VA's performances as well, which is completely valid. At the end of the day, I'm hoping they get a big ass budget for the next game, go all out on the story and character writing, and they change up the boss battle's just a little so it's more oriented around fighting in the world as opposed to fighting in an arena. There are times where that's valid and would probably work better, but I do think being able to stop Venom or Lizard while out in the world to slam them a bit is a cool concept.
Won't stand for best performance slander you always throw in there bro I've HAD IT.. The performances they select aren't always great but if any of the awards have any value it's Best Narrative (because it goes beyond video-games) and Best Performance, even more than game of the year, especially in the video-game industry. Good acting / voice acting (which is what's considered more than motion capture acting) enhances the storytelling process - Can't help but mention RDR2. Imagine that game with weak/middling performances. It's hard to right? There is a lack of prestige given to video-game acting that makes people think the way you do. Bad voice actors get the spotlight every single time but great performances are, honestly, even brushed off. Which makes no sense - An example: I would have had a much harder time getting through God Of War with a bad lead. The emotional engagement that a skilled actor who cares about his craft can cause, good (Joel Miller from TLOU) or even bad (Micah Bell from RDR2), is an essential part of what makes the most *memorable* game stories memorable - and *memorable* is what makes a great game. Great writing and great acting go hand in hand in achieving that.
On a sidenote im really glad you're not scared to call out the dumbass "go woke go broke" criticques youtubers with more subscribers wouldn't be confident enough to give because they're scared of alienating audiences. You could have easily stuck to the brain-dead spider-man fanboys or the redditors but you didn't and that speaks well of you
I agree. A convincing performance is one of the hardest things to achieve in video games. Same with a great narrative honestly. But that also means most games don't achieve that. But still get awarded for it. Pretty much every year there's like 0-2 actual quality narratives with great acting which in my opinion makes the category super dry. But. Game of the Year is a popularity contest so I don't really care that much. Thank you for watching
a civil discussion in a youtube comment section 😱 also rsg you have become my favourite lesser known youtuber. I disagree with some of your points from time to time but you seem to dissect some topics like criticism in a way I haven't seen any other youtubers do (just like in this video) so keep up the good videos man.
@@RSG200 I think best performance should be like the Emmy's and if you need to have 6 nominees from the SAME GAME then do it. Its what happened with the sopranos and succession. Also yea GOTY is a popularity contest but, it sheds light on games. I literally woould't have ever played Alan Wake 2 if it wasn't bc i saw "oh its nominated for Goty? im kinda curious". Popularity contests consciously or subconsciously affect the people who don't care about popularity contests (as contradictory as that sounds)
Whenever I see someone use the word “woke” and then point out political takes that seem flimsy, my mind automatically corrects the word to “performative pandering”. A side mission where I’m helping two supposed genius kids ask each other out to prom is a bad side mission regardless of it being a gay couple or not, the fact that it is a gay couple though and how extra the guy you’re helping is I can’t help but feel that it was only put in to check a box- a box they didn’t feel like checking in the Middle East. I’ve noticed a growing amount of people are either on one side of the camp of “everything’s woke, the pride flag once jumped out the screen and beat the gay into me” or “there is no agenda, they put in the politics to call out racism” and then there’s people who just don’t pick up on these things regardless (I wish I was the last one) but come on it’s becoming more and more apparent that the elites have a segregation fetish, they love tokenism and false virtue. My issue isn’t representation or diversity my issue is the pretence of it to tick off a box means absolutely nothing and it also tells me that “diversity” to these muppets is the superficial stuff like sexuality and skin colour, not personality, culture, upbringing, morals and the content of one’s character. Sm2 is far from the worst offender of this but it still does it in many small ways that shouldn’t be hand waved away, it’s a growing issue how many companies are happy to profit off racism and discrimination in a way that only benefits the top percent but they get away with it because it’s repackaged as “inclusivity” from a bunch of middle class activists who’ve never been outside their own sphere of influence. It’s disingenuous and at times reinforces these negative stereotypes these guys would say they’re against but yet they promote it. Again sm2 isn’t the worst offender it just has moments of “this is a political thing” that pulls you out the game because it’s jarring. “Oh black cat has a girlfriend” was she only in this game to have that line of dialogue? Felt like she was only there for that line of dialogue. Let’s have mj be a broken character that breaks the logic of the game all because we wanna push a “woman can be heroes too narrative” after stripping MJ of all her feminine traits and turning her into a bland ass Lois lane knock off. Then again I’d be a total hypocrite if I didn’t acknowledge some people are clearly just out here rage baiting with how far they’ll push the “thing is woke” agenda, where they’ll nitpick every person of colour on screen or completely misrepresent a scene or character to twist the narrative. Point is there’s absolutely box ticking going on and there is a level of political pandering that seems to be socially acceptable even when it’s cringe, badly written and can be cut with the game being all the better for it but it’ll stay because “representation” or some other dumb reason behind the scenes for playing a corny ass mission. And maybe just maybe don’t take political stances at all if you’re so easily gonna bend the knee where it ain’t socially acceptable.
the only reason people like spiderman 2 i mean i personally enjoyed it its not a great game or anything but i had fun but let me get to the point the reason most people like spiderman 2 and dont see the obvious flaws is because there hasnt been a good spiderman story made in the last 15 years and plus there hasnt been any games coming out on the ps5
Awfully handled borderline wasted symbiote plot and unearned payoffs gallore, and yet so many people complain about nothing but the woke stuff. It's making us haters look bad
The symbiote storyline felt it was going well for me even with Harry having it, I honestly don't care who wears it as long as its developed well. But again it seemed like it was doing well, but to me it fell off once venom was created. But a lot of missed opportunities with it, even with Kraven.
look I love spider-man I am a huge spider-man fan (it's my favorite when spider-mans writers cuck him and make his life a living fucking hell) but I can still totally understand the faults the game isn't an amazing ten out of ten and that's perfectly fine for me I love spider-man and just getting to be him is more than enough for me! the writing is bland and basic the game itself is overall safe (and points off for not recreating "SHOCKEEEEER! YOU CANT ESCAPE ME! ILL CHASE YOU TILL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH") but at the end of the day some people just wanna be spider-man and is that so bad?
dude im really starting to fucking hate the word woke yeah the mission was corny it would've been corny if it was a guy or a girl the game has issues that mission isn't gonna make it shit omg
Exactly, it was a optional mission that didn't change anything and add some representation for the community to support it, but it would have been exactly the same if it was a straight relationship. There was nothing woke about it if people want to use that term, well spoiler alert there are gay people 😂
never palyed the game (i don't got a job nor ps5), but i can comfortably say that if it lacks good writing, why bother? also the idea that people are throwing a fit over small insignificant gay imagry is funny to me, but i do agknowledge that said immigry is pretty damn obnoxious nowadays given how often it was showed down people's faces.
The writing is not a big as problem as people make it and its a great sequel and have its awesome moments. People were already set on SpiderMan 2 just cause of venom. Its just the game's writing was cut short in many areas and it hiccups a lot, where one portion you find out that many Spider-Man villains from the first game just get killed off with no explanation nor showing that happens, other than Kraven did it. But with all of that it is still a great game, great experience, and great story that just could have been better. The pushed agenda people are making it to believe is really stupid cause the game doesn't even force it, its a optional side mission that doesn't change anything at all, if it was straight characters it would have made no difference. All three games are not even woke, but they do shed some diversity and representation.
@@somebodytouchamysphagetti7971 they're talking about all the pride flags and things like giant murals of black lives matter signs, honestly at this point its been so pushed im desensitized to it and just will naturally avoid those areas when playing the game and dont care for it
@alatus_knight ay man. I'm just looking for proof that doesn't sound like it's from a bigot whose mind is oversaturated in political issues ( not saying you are). I guess I'll take a look, but feel free to suggest a sensible video.
@@ethanlaw9613 Objectively, it isn't good. The gameplay is boring and repetitive, the enemy variety is pathetic, the difficulty was pretty lacking, the amount of content for the game feels like half of the first game without the DLC (Platinumed in 20 hours). It was buggy on launch, it was missing some basic features, the plot was mishandled, and MJ was just made uglier for no reason while also giving her a bigger role to play than Peter. The game having forced representation and The Message™️ was also extremely annoying to sit through. The missions with characters that have gay or their race as their entire personality, changing some characters unnecessarily like Black Cat, and seeing pride flags and BLM plastered on every corner. This is modern NYC so I give it a pass because that's probably how it actually is (minus that it's much cleaner in the game than it is IRL). NYC police also have far reduced presence in this game and it takes some of the liveliness the first game had. Of course cops and bomb squads would respond to these emergencies, why are they not here? I don't have a majorly popular opinion on cops either, but they contributed to the world building a good amount of the first game. Speaking of, Peter had a character assassination, it made no sense why the same guy who 1v6'd the Sinister Six and put up a solid fight couldn't stand up to a fridge, and a lot of his lines feel extremely out of character ("Why would the city need me if it has you?" - Peter to Miles). Peter didn't win a single fight alone through the entire game. Miles is also just not a good character. He's a less interesting version of Peter Parker, and the only thing that sets him apart is his ethnicity. The fact that they buffed him to be significantly stronger than Peter does irk me because the dude isn't out of highschool and has only been Spider-Man for a year, yet somehow outperforms Peter on every level. Miles' one character flaw is that he wants revenge, but that's barely addressed, nothing really comes about that, and that part of his story doesn't reach a satisfying conclusion. The plot overall feels like a plot without consequences, there was nothing to be learned or nothing that really changed, and the narrative didn't make me feel good in the end. Overall just not a pleasant experience playing through SM-2. Performance issues, lackluster plot without consequences, assassinated good characters, emphasized and pushed mediocre characters, and forced representation that no one besides their overlords at Sweet Baby Inc. and activists who don't play games asked for. At the bare minimum, it wasn't the Spider-Man experience I was looking forward to, and I left thoroughly disappointed and felt like I wasted $70.
@The_NJG the gameplay isn't boring and repetitive, thats just on you and that kinda applies to other games based on your logic, you can do several combos in the game with different types of attacks. There were 6 different enemy varieties what the actual chili Madagascar zootopia fuck dog are you talking about💀. That's way than miles morales, and I think spider man 1, thr content of the game was good, balanced storytelling and good villians and probably more. It was bound to have glitches on launch, you're the one who can't have patience to wait for them to be fixed. MJ doesn't even look that bad and she was a better character in this game and didnt even steal the spotlight of Pete.
@The_NJG can't really say on the sexualitie part of the crictism, that's just you. Black Cat being lesbian was made for her to build her character. I mean there was raft officers in the same mission, and kind of alot too. And why does that matter if it's literally meant to be a spider man game? Doesn't matter if he was nerfed, that wasn't the point of the game at all, the devs don't go for power levels they focus on the gameplay, mechanics, and story. And peter 1v1ing the sinister six was part of the story and not cause of power. This is terrible crictism.
@The_NJG doesn't matter if he couldn't "stand up to the fridge" which is absolutely childish😭 no way you just want them to make him as overpowered as possible for no reason💀 the're not getting this mf on the "goku doesn't solo" list lil bro. What are you talking about? Miles was going through the pain knowing the guy who killed his dad is still out there and his friends and family are telling not to do anything about it. Miles was scared of his family leaving him and being alone, this is what makes him an amazing character. Because as spider man, he knows that he can't let that happen which is why spider man gets in the way of his personal life every time he tries to not be spider man. Miles then thought he could save them in Martin fight. Provoking more fears in the illusion of his dad, which was set by the fear of being alone by him. But then he doesn't let them hold him back anymore, and moves on from the past. Which is great Characterization.
Falling asleep playing a game is a joke until it happens to you. Diablo 4 straight up knocks me out lol
It happened to me a few days ago when playing trackmania, not because it's boring but because I'm sleep deprived after fucking up my sleep schedule
@@edwardevans1498 I had that one from Persona 5 lol
Fallout for me
2026 Luke Steven's is gonna make a "This game is solid" retrospective and everyone will call it the best Spiderman ever made.
Nobody infuriates me like mf Luke Stephens I stg he’s ai generated
@@jamesverhoeven8769 its the thumbnails, always answering his stupid videos question
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@@mightymorphingpo2smartest Spider-Man 2 fanatic
@@BiggieJ4224 oh yes PS4 right stop saying fake PS5 is fake Devil poilce take it way PS5 you Ruin mine Rules I’m hero
peter kissing doc ock threw me off so hard
I almost spit out my coffee 😂
I was fucking flabbergasted
3:16 gotta disagree. The honeymoon phase is definitely a real thing, especially when a game of this caliber and the amount of hype it had, turns out to be somewhat underwhelming. Like if u literally worked all summer, almost blew through 2k, and were literally bought and entire console just for this game, while counting down the days, and it ends up being disappointing, your going to be in a honeymoon phase and completely gloss over all of the games flaws and issues and only look at the positive like i did.
The game was quite political which is why people criticize it for being woke.
1 - The first thing that happens is in an early mission there's some multiracial street gang is robbing a gun club. Peter goes on a ridiculous anti-gun tirade about how gun clubs don’t belong in the city and how we need “complement clubs” instead. Yeah Peter, it’s real easy for you to say that no one needs guns when you’re a superhero that can eat bullets and punch through brick walls.
2 - Not long after, Harry offers Peter a job at Oscorps new science facility, which is focused on utopian liberal projects like developing GMO crops (oh, and the game has a throwaway line about these GMO crops being “ethical”) and climate engineering.
3 - Then there's an early side mission where you have to solve a puzzle at a collection of “BIPOC” murals. Yes, the game drops that word multiple times.
4 - Then the college fair Miles goes to has a Planned Parenthood booth advertising abortion services to teenagers.
5 - The Spanish language version uses gender neutral words that don't exist in Spanish.
6 - There are ukraine and pride flags everywhere, such as when you first go into the science center and look at the scientists' desks, and even BLM posters.
7 - There are lots of other woke details in the environment like all gender bathrooms. Characters have been uglified, Mary Jane in particular looks like she just got a facial reconstruction from Mr. Magoo.
This is about as "in your face" as you can be without just outright adding dialogue directly saying these things.
I’ll defend a few things. I think a lot of the environmental elements are just things that can probably be found in New York. There are probably a lot of pride flags and BLM flags in New York.
Also, maybe it’s just me, but Mary Jane looks pretty normal to me? There’s a difference, sure, but she just looks a bit older. Reminds me of how Amy Adams looks. If you prefer her old design, that’s absolutely fine! I just don’t get, how is that a “liberal” thing?
@@Mr_Mimestamp it's a liberal thing because of feminists which align themselves with the left. Basically they say "women aren't for the male gaze" and they want less attractive women in games as to not create unrealistic beauty standards, pleasing males, etc. Its a big part of gamer gate.
@@Mr_Mimestampthis is pure cope. We know political activists were involved injecting their ideology into this game.
@@Mr_Mimestampthis whole comment is cringe and embarrassing. I apologize for him.
Spider-Man PS4 was a banger in almost every department and we cannot forget that it was critizied for multiple things some stupid. Like puddle gate, mary jane mission, and many of the side missions being use collectables. The writing in itself was spot on cause it was direct and felt original for spiderman, side characters were iffy. So all in all it was an great game with some issues that could be looked over.
Spider-Man 2 though is a great game with issues that cannot be looked over and is to prominent to not discuss cause its crazy some of the stuff that is funbled in the writing and even gameplay. I was already questioning the introduction mission as Peter was saying Web Wings were in Beta, but he had nano-bot arms stabbing sand enemies from his back, it just didnt add up. Especially later on where it feels like much of the story or even mission were cut, which didn't happen in the first game. Where the first game felt like there was more content and they provided DLC. Spider-Man 2 was able to polish a lot what was wrong in Spider-Man, but then cut back on other stuff, especially in story, but to me Miles Morales game had dog ass writing too.
miles arc in the game was amazing and spiderman 2 inproved everything spiderman ps4 did
the web wings were a prototype so what?!
the spider arms( get it right) hitting people (not stabing them) is because IT IS FICTION and where does it feel like where missions got cut
The best part of Spider-Man 2 is the combat and traversals
2:54 i agree. it seems like they went for a more, plasticky look with the models, and while in some scenes it looks good, in most it lacks the facial details from mm. like it looks like everybody is made up of playdough lmao.
are we looking at the same game because it looks nothing lie what your describing
@@user-silentnight1234He's descriping what i'm seeing
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I'm skipping SM3 cause looking at the botched faces of Peter and MJ for a full story campaign honestly kinda creeps me out. I don't understand why Insomniac is suddenly so bad with faces when the original game was so good in that regard.
What broke the camel's back for me was the flashback "high school Peter", I cannot express with words how uncanny valley that looked to me.
1:54 im not sure why your shocked? the first game had an amazing story and one of the best adaptions modern adaptations of spiderman ever and is exactly how u should translate spiderman into the modern era. It tred similar territory with its plot but executed it in way to get the player emotionally invested in world and characters, allowing new players and spiderman fans to learn about this character's world and relationships, while giving us more experienced spiderman fans an emotionally compelling story and an excellent retelling of a classic spiderman tale. simply put, despite Spiderman's 2 attempt to recreate that same effect by basically using the firsts games story beats, beat for beat, it simply couldn't strike lightning twice, because of insomniac either, treading too far away from the source material, rush story aspects, lack of focus, ideas that were not fleshed out or were not given enough time, bad pacing, and overall a downgrade in writing it just fails to capture that same effect from the first game. This is mainly because the first game had actual comic book writers writing the game, while this game has more new, inexperienced writers, and it shows through the dialogue. I feel like I could've written a better story than this tbh.
Perfect comment its like you read my mind and honest to God the writers of Spiderman 2 should be banned from touching anything Spiderman related I'm dead serious
@@adiasdiante1010 nah fax
'Modern era' that's the problem
They did a good job making miles the preferred spiderman
Until they gave him that trash ass suit and side missions.
That redditor voice is perfect
I think that Spider-Man 2 has it's qualities, but it's like every character has the same ass personality. Games actually need to stop giving f's about being offensive to someone because what you end up with like in SM2's case is lifeless, straight to the point and emotionless lines like (and i shit you not): "So you like breaking things? How about i break you?" (Peter has a chance to say that line when he has the symbiote. It might be slightly different than how i remember it but it was something along those lines)
the only example you give of "ass personalities" is when peter has the simbiote WHICH MAKES PETER MORE MAD THE MORE HE USES IT so what your ganna be mad that kraven is evil when he is the villain?!
@@user-silentnight1234 That was- not my point... and I didn't say the personalities are ass (but rather that they are all the same as in filtered), they have the same (ass) personalities. There was no comma between "same" and "ass". That's how English works.
@@RixesPuffs nobody care about english and reready your comment you did say that
@@user-silentnight1234 Your whole argument was based off of you not understanding basic english wdym nobody cares 💀
I said they were the same, not ass, I said they were the "same ass personalities" and not "same, ass personalities". "Same, ass" would mean that they are the same AND ass. "same ass personalities" is like saying "the exact same" or "identical"
@@RixesPuffs even then their different characters and have differences
Honestly if anyone’s complaining about the game being too “safe” or “woke”, it’s kind of the fan’s fault…. They complain about everything nowadays and are spoiled beyond belief, so companies try to play it safe too often to please the common demographic. (Or to appease those people who complain so much about every little thing)
Those are very valid complains in this case.
Thanks for your honesty and great video, I appreciate that
No way blud just said tlou 2 is some of the best writing 🤡
Lmao
blud? are you 12?
PS5 IS DOOMED everything released on this console (exclusive) lost its value
Guys this is the last insomniac video seriously. Thanks for watching
You mean it's the last insomniac video until you talk about the next insomniac game. 😏😏
I luv u 🥺
No it ain't lmaoo😭🙏
I mean Spider-Man on PlayStation writing is pretty good for video games standards and mid for cinema but A tier in marvel cinema.
10:00 have to disagree, already mentioned this but something clearly changed. if you tell me that you were not emotionally invested when aunt may died in s1 than idk what to tell u. The first game had actual comic book writers writing the game, while this game has more new, inexperienced writers, and it shows through the dialogue. I feel like I could've written a better story than this tbh.
Spider-Man 2 is Hate no
Spider-Man 2 is Love Yes✅
Spiderman 2 for Xbox/PS2 beats everything.
yall rami fans with your ps2 spiderman game are stupid tje game is outdated and just sucks the game is slow and the voice acting is so bad and the arkham games are better
There's no way some of these people are real lol
Might just be me but i honestly like 2 more than 1,
Mj becomes a more improved char imo
Miles is more interesting
Kraven and venom feel way more like actual threats than otto and Li
And the gameplay is wayy better.
I think most people who hate the game are dissapointed by it because they expected rdr2 levels of writing with the entire gameplay being reworked, and also for some reason expected venom to be an exact 1 to 1 adaptation of the comics version when the devs been stated they werent doing that(yes its valid to dislike venom in the game but its actual brain rot to only hate him because hes not like the comic's version, i dont understand why some comic fans beg for originality then complain when something isnt like the source material) 💀
Me personally I love both games equally.
From a gameplay perspective, I loved it more than one because the combat is a lot more fun with more energy variety and moves and the web swinging is so satisfying.
From a story perspective, I honestly don’t know which one I like more. I think I may lean a little bit more towards 2 because I actually got to play through it for myself while with the first game I watched some RUclipsr’s playthrough of it because 1. I didn’t have a ps4. And 2. I didn’t even know the game existed until people started playing it 😅.
So, yeah. That’s my take personally.
I also agree, MJ is a better character than from the 1st game, people only hate on her because of her sections or that she’s apparently “ugly” she grew to be someone that the Spider-Men can trust like on the field like stealing the meteor from the symbiotes to bring back to the foundation, the 1st game, she goes wherever she wants to without letting Peter know and just puts herself in tight situations and gets mad at Peter for saving her life when she tried sneaking into one of the sable bases
Miles also grew as a character in this game, he made room for better things in his life, reformed his biggest enemy, and finished his college essay, he even came a long way as to even helping Peter take off the symbiote and even decides that he’ll go solo and let Peter take a break,
Harry, he’s not annoying as his movie or comic book counterparts where he just hates on Peter for thinking that he killed his dad or something like that
As for Peter, he finally learned to let some things go and that he can’t take on everything by himself whereas he relies on MJ to keep his house not be up for sale or on Miles for Spider-Man duties, he still holds some of his responsibilities, but he’s learned to be a little chill on them
Overall though, this game is tied with Spider-Man 1 as my favorite game ever
Spiderman 2 would have been better if they killed off Peter in the first thirty minutes and then had Miles go on a revenge missiok tearing through the city only to get to Venom or Kraven at the end and be like, "Nah revenge bad."
- This guy probably.
😂
Don’t worry the Sucide Squad Kill the justice league already followed the last of us 2 beats they didn’t just kill Arkham Batman they killed they the Arkham universe
Spider-Man 2 fans are just wild
Go woke go broke, can you please play Minecraft with mods again, 🥺
lmao I almost forgot about those videos. It was a more simple time back then. I remember wanting to do an elden ring modpack but I think any minecraft series would have to be on a second channel.
I think many people forget or don’t know that Spider-Man is rated T for Teen. The Last of Us is rated M for Mature. Huge difference in what you can do in the writing department.
I don’t agree that the story in Spider-Man 2 is bad or has bad writing. Less character maybe? But that’s not a bad thing impo. It clicked with me because of the introduction of Vernon and Kraven’s darker demeanor.
I can understand fans of Spider-Man not clicking with the more serious tone of Spider-Man 2 though.
There are things that I do believe were very well deserved of an award. The technology and, sure, voice acting at least. However, I was so infuriated with all the damn woke messaging I’m glad it didn’t win anything. This crap need to stop. Are these strong messages really that necessary? It’s honestly very distasteful.
Sucks that so many people hate this masterpiece
RGS spoke all factoids no fiction, I will admit this game isnt what I wanted either but the hate is soo ridiculous
Hate to sound like a Redditor, but I genuinely can’t think of any other word to describe this game/team other than “embarrassing” I don’t feel like listing all of the advantages they had and still fumbled on, but I know that comes off as me making a statement with no argument to back it up, so if someone is curious as to what my reasons are then I guess I can list them in the replies later on. But regardless I think it shows a lack of competence in both the actual marvel/game writing team, and the overall gameplay development team as well, I’ve seen countless developers with less than half the budget, team size, and experience create games way better than this, which is tragic because personally I really loved what the first game had to offer, wasn’t my ideal perfect Spider-Man game but it had showings of potential for future games. Oh well
I was agreeing until that Last Of Us 2 Bombshell, i think it’s one of the worst written games of all time, with a very terrible story.
still, good video.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that)
@@user-vivi228 It is an opinion, if you disagree with it that’s fine, don’t go out trying to cry about it though, you are not gonna change it, and it is impossible for it to be a wrong opinion since it is entirely subjective.
@@nermax7022 wow a surprisengly sane response👍
I still think it’s great
Same, I think it’s just as great as Spider-Man PS4
Hello , good video.
Tbh, when Spider-Man release on PC i finally have a chance to play it but unfortunately i got bored so fast and it doesn’t hype me up to play even more except installing mods and do photoshoots for my wallpaper.
What makes dislike on this game as well is:
- how Spider-Man hores on the internet like Raimi fans and Webb fans are annoying as hell for overpraising a game that respect to the lore but somehow they’re ungrateful and blind jealousy over MCU suit in the game and how insomniac didn’t put raimi and asm suit in the game until DLC and Remastered.
- I don’t know if Insomniacs are telling the truth when jt comes to changing his face, but somehow the obvious reason why they change his face and retexture to a babyface tom holland accurate is because they did this on purpose as a vendetta against spider-man hores.
- The first game easily makes me bored and I’m sorry to say this but i’d rather play the previous spider man game from 2004-2011. The web-swings, combat, and daily missions are my core of playing Spider-Man games and too bad Marvel Spider-Man makes me bored.
- Lastly my complain to this game would be S Jane Watson * cough* I mean Mary Jane including her stealth mission, I can’t stand her even hearing her sue lines🤢
Batman is always better
Not always,they both have their strengths and weaknesses
I think the game play is great and the story is whatever. By the end of it I didn't feel blown away by the story, there was just certain little bit's I really liked and certain little bits I didn't. If you like the characters, it's fair to assume you just like the broad concept of Spider-man that these characters embody just like any other Spidey, but you like their VA's performances as well, which is completely valid. At the end of the day, I'm hoping they get a big ass budget for the next game, go all out on the story and character writing, and they change up the boss battle's just a little so it's more oriented around fighting in the world as opposed to fighting in an arena. There are times where that's valid and would probably work better, but I do think being able to stop Venom or Lizard while out in the world to slam them a bit is a cool concept.
Insomniac At least make a remastered so they don’t keep hating on it
Won't stand for best performance slander you always throw in there bro I've HAD IT.. The performances they select aren't always great but if any of the awards have any value it's Best Narrative (because it goes beyond video-games) and Best Performance, even more than game of the year, especially in the video-game industry. Good acting / voice acting (which is what's considered more than motion capture acting) enhances the storytelling process - Can't help but mention RDR2. Imagine that game with weak/middling performances. It's hard to right? There is a lack of prestige given to video-game acting that makes people think the way you do. Bad voice actors get the spotlight every single time but great performances are, honestly, even brushed off. Which makes no sense - An example: I would have had a much harder time getting through God Of War with a bad lead. The emotional engagement that a skilled actor who cares about his craft can cause, good (Joel Miller from TLOU) or even bad (Micah Bell from RDR2), is an essential part of what makes the most *memorable* game stories memorable - and *memorable* is what makes a great game. Great writing and great acting go hand in hand in achieving that.
On a sidenote im really glad you're not scared to call out the dumbass "go woke go broke" criticques youtubers with more subscribers wouldn't be confident enough to give because they're scared of alienating audiences. You could have easily stuck to the brain-dead spider-man fanboys or the redditors but you didn't and that speaks well of you
I agree. A convincing performance is one of the hardest things to achieve in video games. Same with a great narrative honestly. But that also means most games don't achieve that. But still get awarded for it. Pretty much every year there's like 0-2 actual quality narratives with great acting which in my opinion makes the category super dry. But. Game of the Year is a popularity contest so I don't really care that much. Thank you for watching
a civil discussion in a youtube comment section 😱 also rsg you have become my favourite lesser known youtuber. I disagree with some of your points from time to time but you seem to dissect some topics like criticism in a way I haven't seen any other youtubers do (just like in this video) so keep up the good videos man.
Sucirty take everyone ruin everything
@@RSG200 I think best performance should be like the Emmy's and if you need to have 6 nominees from the SAME GAME then do it. Its what happened with the sopranos and succession.
Also yea GOTY is a popularity contest but, it sheds light on games. I literally woould't have ever played Alan Wake 2 if it wasn't bc i saw "oh its nominated for Goty? im kinda curious". Popularity contests consciously or subconsciously affect the people who don't care about popularity contests (as contradictory as that sounds)
Whenever I see someone use the word “woke” and then point out political takes that seem flimsy, my mind automatically corrects the word to “performative pandering”.
A side mission where I’m helping two supposed genius kids ask each other out to prom is a bad side mission regardless of it being a gay couple or not, the fact that it is a gay couple though and how extra the guy you’re helping is I can’t help but feel that it was only put in to check a box- a box they didn’t feel like checking in the Middle East. I’ve noticed a growing amount of people are either on one side of the camp of “everything’s woke, the pride flag once jumped out the screen and beat the gay into me” or “there is no agenda, they put in the politics to call out racism” and then there’s people who just don’t pick up on these things regardless (I wish I was the last one) but come on it’s becoming more and more apparent that the elites have a segregation fetish, they love tokenism and false virtue.
My issue isn’t representation or diversity my issue is the pretence of it to tick off a box means absolutely nothing and it also tells me that “diversity” to these muppets is the superficial stuff like sexuality and skin colour, not personality, culture, upbringing, morals and the content of one’s character. Sm2 is far from the worst offender of this but it still does it in many small ways that shouldn’t be hand waved away, it’s a growing issue how many companies are happy to profit off racism and discrimination in a way that only benefits the top percent but they get away with it because it’s repackaged as “inclusivity” from a bunch of middle class activists who’ve never been outside their own sphere of influence. It’s disingenuous and at times reinforces these negative stereotypes these guys would say they’re against but yet they promote it. Again sm2 isn’t the worst offender it just has moments of “this is a political thing” that pulls you out the game because it’s jarring. “Oh black cat has a girlfriend” was she only in this game to have that line of dialogue? Felt like she was only there for that line of dialogue. Let’s have mj be a broken character that breaks the logic of the game all because we wanna push a “woman can be heroes too narrative” after stripping MJ of all her feminine traits and turning her into a bland ass Lois lane knock off.
Then again I’d be a total hypocrite if I didn’t acknowledge some people are clearly just out here rage baiting with how far they’ll push the “thing is woke” agenda, where they’ll nitpick every person of colour on screen or completely misrepresent a scene or character to twist the narrative. Point is there’s absolutely box ticking going on and there is a level of political pandering that seems to be socially acceptable even when it’s cringe, badly written and can be cut with the game being all the better for it but it’ll stay because “representation” or some other dumb reason behind the scenes for playing a corny ass mission. And maybe just maybe don’t take political stances at all if you’re so easily gonna bend the knee where it ain’t socially acceptable.
They didn't fall its a great game by a great studio
I was with you until you praised last of us. Such a terrible game.
Spider-Man PS4 was aight but I never got the hype. It wasn't Arkham Trilogy level of quality imo.
the only reason people like spiderman 2 i mean i personally enjoyed it its not a great game or anything but i had fun but let me get to the point the reason most people like spiderman 2 and dont see the obvious flaws is because there hasnt been a good spiderman story made in the last 15 years and plus there hasnt been any games coming out on the ps5
Awfully handled borderline wasted symbiote plot and unearned payoffs gallore, and yet so many people complain about nothing but the woke stuff. It's making us haters look bad
The symbiote storyline felt it was going well for me even with Harry having it, I honestly don't care who wears it as long as its developed well. But again it seemed like it was doing well, but to me it fell off once venom was created. But a lot of missed opportunities with it, even with Kraven.
I’m curious to hear your thoughts on Alan Wake 2, I thought it was really good
I wish we just had fun playing even the most trashiest game known to man 😢
Thank God for baldurs gate 3 winning for game of the year
“Gamers” when they have to play the game and not just watch the story and judge the entire game by it
GOU WUKE GO BROKE!!!
Based mindset
GAY PEOPLE EXISTING!!!! AHHHHHHHH!!!!! SAVE ME I WANT TO GO BACK TO 2001
look I love spider-man I am a huge spider-man fan (it's my favorite when spider-mans writers cuck him and make his life a living fucking hell) but I can still totally understand the faults the game isn't an amazing ten out of ten and that's perfectly fine for me I love spider-man and just getting to be him is more than enough for me! the writing is bland and basic the game itself is overall safe (and points off for not recreating "SHOCKEEEEER! YOU CANT ESCAPE ME! ILL CHASE YOU TILL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH") but at the end of the day some people just wanna be spider-man and is that so bad?
can you make a video about daredevil series, i love the series so much. ?
I'll have to rewatch it but yeah in the future for sure
Thanks@@RSG200
dude im really starting to fucking hate the word woke yeah the mission was corny it would've been corny if it was a guy or a girl the game has issues that mission isn't gonna make it shit omg
Exactly, it was a optional mission that didn't change anything and add some representation for the community to support it, but it would have been exactly the same if it was a straight relationship. There was nothing woke about it if people want to use that term, well spoiler alert there are gay people 😂
The game is full of woke nonsense
Until I hear that tlou2 is "good writhing" i close the video, shitty ass game with a shitty ending
Totally disagree
Bolders gate 3 deserved to win
I don’t play video games like this, I’m playing squid’s odyssey for 2$, and wanting to die every second squid’s odyssey sucks don’t play it
Spider man 2 is the best game oat💀🙏
For a PS5 game, it's pretty weak.
despicable isn't pronounced like that, right?
never palyed the game (i don't got a job nor ps5), but i can comfortably say that if it lacks good writing, why bother?
also the idea that people are throwing a fit over small insignificant gay imagry is funny to me, but i do agknowledge that said immigry is pretty damn obnoxious nowadays given how often it was showed down people's faces.
The writing is not a big as problem as people make it and its a great sequel and have its awesome moments. People were already set on SpiderMan 2 just cause of venom. Its just the game's writing was cut short in many areas and it hiccups a lot, where one portion you find out that many Spider-Man villains from the first game just get killed off with no explanation nor showing that happens, other than Kraven did it. But with all of that it is still a great game, great experience, and great story that just could have been better.
The pushed agenda people are making it to believe is really stupid cause the game doesn't even force it, its a optional side mission that doesn't change anything at all, if it was straight characters it would have made no difference. All three games are not even woke, but they do shed some diversity and representation.
@@sayhelloethan i swear some people can never be happy.
Tbf we’ve had straight relationships shoved in our faces for way longer
@@gavo7911 yeah, but it wasn't nearly as forced as lgbt relationships.
i find it funny that you believe this game isn’t woke nor political pandering yeah this gets a dislike
Epic
SPIDERMAN 2 IS CLEARLY WOKE. Cut the bs🗿
Can you explain how it's woke?
@@somebodytouchamysphagetti7971 they're talking about all the pride flags and things like giant murals of black lives matter signs, honestly at this point its been so pushed im desensitized to it and just will naturally avoid those areas when playing the game and dont care for it
@entity5279 funny enough, that's all I hear, plus some even dumber shit. I'm hoping they actually have something to add that isn't ridiculous.
@@somebodytouchamysphagetti7971 watch a video regarding this topic if you want the truth, otherwise continue with you delusion🗿
@alatus_knight ay man. I'm just looking for proof that doesn't sound like it's from a bigot whose mind is oversaturated in political issues ( not saying you are). I guess I'll take a look, but feel free to suggest a sensible video.
Hello
SM-2 is terrible. I'm glad people are waking up.
Not objectively if thats what you're implying
@@ethanlaw9613 Objectively, it isn't good. The gameplay is boring and repetitive, the enemy variety is pathetic, the difficulty was pretty lacking, the amount of content for the game feels like half of the first game without the DLC (Platinumed in 20 hours). It was buggy on launch, it was missing some basic features, the plot was mishandled, and MJ was just made uglier for no reason while also giving her a bigger role to play than Peter. The game having forced representation and The Message™️ was also extremely annoying to sit through. The missions with characters that have gay or their race as their entire personality, changing some characters unnecessarily like Black Cat, and seeing pride flags and BLM plastered on every corner. This is modern NYC so I give it a pass because that's probably how it actually is (minus that it's much cleaner in the game than it is IRL). NYC police also have far reduced presence in this game and it takes some of the liveliness the first game had. Of course cops and bomb squads would respond to these emergencies, why are they not here? I don't have a majorly popular opinion on cops either, but they contributed to the world building a good amount of the first game.
Speaking of, Peter had a character assassination, it made no sense why the same guy who 1v6'd the Sinister Six and put up a solid fight couldn't stand up to a fridge, and a lot of his lines feel extremely out of character ("Why would the city need me if it has you?" - Peter to Miles). Peter didn't win a single fight alone through the entire game. Miles is also just not a good character. He's a less interesting version of Peter Parker, and the only thing that sets him apart is his ethnicity. The fact that they buffed him to be significantly stronger than Peter does irk me because the dude isn't out of highschool and has only been Spider-Man for a year, yet somehow outperforms Peter on every level. Miles' one character flaw is that he wants revenge, but that's barely addressed, nothing really comes about that, and that part of his story doesn't reach a satisfying conclusion. The plot overall feels like a plot without consequences, there was nothing to be learned or nothing that really changed, and the narrative didn't make me feel good in the end.
Overall just not a pleasant experience playing through SM-2. Performance issues, lackluster plot without consequences, assassinated good characters, emphasized and pushed mediocre characters, and forced representation that no one besides their overlords at Sweet Baby Inc. and activists who don't play games asked for. At the bare minimum, it wasn't the Spider-Man experience I was looking forward to, and I left thoroughly disappointed and felt like I wasted $70.
@The_NJG the gameplay isn't boring and repetitive, thats just on you and that kinda applies to other games based on your logic, you can do several combos in the game with different types of attacks. There were 6 different enemy varieties what the actual chili Madagascar zootopia fuck dog are you talking about💀. That's way than miles morales, and I think spider man 1, thr content of the game was good, balanced storytelling and good villians and probably more. It was bound to have glitches on launch, you're the one who can't have patience to wait for them to be fixed. MJ doesn't even look that bad and she was a better character in this game and didnt even steal the spotlight of Pete.
@The_NJG can't really say on the sexualitie part of the crictism, that's just you. Black Cat being lesbian was made for her to build her character. I mean there was raft officers in the same mission, and kind of alot too. And why does that matter if it's literally meant to be a spider man game? Doesn't matter if he was nerfed, that wasn't the point of the game at all, the devs don't go for power levels they focus on the gameplay, mechanics, and story. And peter 1v1ing the sinister six was part of the story and not cause of power. This is terrible crictism.
@The_NJG doesn't matter if he couldn't "stand up to the fridge" which is absolutely childish😭 no way you just want them to make him as overpowered as possible for no reason💀 the're not getting this mf on the "goku doesn't solo" list lil bro. What are you talking about? Miles was going through the pain knowing the guy who killed his dad is still out there and his friends and family are telling not to do anything about it. Miles was scared of his family leaving him and being alone, this is what makes him an amazing character. Because as spider man, he knows that he can't let that happen which is why spider man gets in the way of his personal life every time he tries to not be spider man. Miles then thought he could save them in Martin fight. Provoking more fears in the illusion of his dad, which was set by the fear of being alone by him. But then he doesn't let them hold him back anymore, and moves on from the past. Which is great Characterization.
Really you think the dialogue in TLOU2 was good? What a clown video! Lmao
It was not as good as sm1
Spiderman 2 is a Ubisoft game with pretty swinging that’s all it has combat is mid story is ass