They are killing us SoloQ guys. Super disappointed too because I care so little for TA. This was my shot to get a cool skin for playing the game I love and then they make it impossible to get
Not to mention this season is literally filled with hackers and when they get banned they just make new accounts. Most people who are in ruby either run with a hacker on an alt or just have a hacker on their team 😂 shits literally a joke.
When ur teammate leaves during the final round and you have to site through 10 minutes waiting to lose knowing you’ll get zero credit for making it all the way to the finals… love it
This is actually way more common than you'd think. Even if it's just xbox crashing while loading. Most of the time I don't think it's intentional, but it's more common than it should be.
@@ryans3795bro… I stopped playing terminal last week because for 7 GAMES IN A ROW.. someone left the match early in the game and it made the match forfeit
Bro I'm ngl this comment was unexpected funny asf 😂😂 I feel it fr tho I thought I was gonna go for it while I could when I'm not working and taking care of family but nah that's way too dedicated and timely to get all the weapons emerald especially since I'm mostly a solo player so I agree I think the sticker is gonna be good for me I think😅😂
one day has 24 hours, you use 8 hours of it for sleep, another 8 hour if you work a 9-5, or you have errands, school, stuff to attend, other kind of work to do, that leaves you with 8 hours remaining, and during this 8 hours left you're probably already tired and just want to relax and play games to HAVE FUN and make progress, spending 8 hours a day just to win 4 World Tours that constantly give you an uncoordinated team, a chaotic gameplay, a high ego team with heal beam but constantly running around on their own, a heavy sledge that constantly dies from chasing down a light dash, getting 3rd partied on first and 2nd knockout round, reach the final round and just to lose for absolutely nothing. if you think this is fun then whatever but to me this sounds like I would never enjoy. Not everyone has a friend that has the time to go on the same party and play together for 8 hours, not even I would play for 8 hours. While games are supposed to be fun for long hours, I would not enjoy playing the game for that long.
They should have made it so you only needed wins to get it just like any other rank. For what I know, World tour was made to give casual players a taste of the ranked system without the punishment of losing the game (since you can't go down in the ranks, only up). This is the complete opposite of that, not only you have to go all the way to the finals, but you also don't get anything if you lose, even on the final match, making you feel like all the time and effort was worthless. Specially with the sweats who swarm this mode.
@@jamarilittlejohn6345 The punishment is wasted time, obviously it's about the fun but some people find winning and progression fun, neither of which they'll get from the emerald grind.
@@hugegamer8004if you think that it was wasted time then Emerald is just not for you. I love the grind and every day since the Update, i love and grind grind grind
@@llakaiakumall7709 Progress towards emerald isn't wasted time, but any match you lose even if outskilling your opponents in every way apart from ability to find teammates, is wasted time. Undeniably.
@@hugegamer8004 its more time for you to get better while trying to climb. Im 550hours into it and i know what you mean but the only thing you really need is 1 guy u like spending time with
It's an insane grind for the insane player. You either have to be insanely good at the game and able to carry your stack or randoms to complete it in (relatively) reasonable time, or you literally no-life this game, ass glued to the chair grinding WT almost every waking hours grinding away at average or below average win rates. Both kinds of those people exist and this is aimed at them. I'm towards the end of Gold 2 on WT and should be eligible for the grind pretty soon, maybe in a week's time I'll accept this isn't for me, just like the Ruby skins (Top 500 TA, lol fuck that) or maybe I'll make decent progress... we'll see.
I never understood the fact that you just get nothing for coming 2nd. I've had my best game in a while getting 23 kills with supportive teammates but we couldn't pull through a win. And the reward is nothing.
Right, making it to "The Finals" should give you some sort of credit, that's like the entire theme of the game. Their whole tag line is like can you make it to the finals? WELL I DID and I didn't get JACK for making it there 😂
@@Killjoy.Z you made it to the finals which is their whole motto, and you qualified every game which takes up like 20 minutes at least. You deserve something
@NF-pk5mo you had a competitive, intense match that made u a better player and gave you something to think about heading into the next tournament. If you want the green gun skin, WIN The Finals.
4 weeks later this guy's point still stands because HOLY SHIT the suffer the utter hell one has to go through, especialy for solo queuers, to get just ONE win is unbelievable, mentaly disabled teammates or utterly unbalanced lobbies. I am already 16 wins behind schedule despite all of the efforts, the biggest disapointement is having to go through all the shit, carry your mentaly disabled random teammates and you stil loose at the final round.
It’s just so stupid. I grinded to top 100 WT to get absolutely no recognition for that, followed up by a ridiculous grind for Emerald 1 making WT sweatier than ever and nearly impossible to get for most people. Love how you worded all of this, and hate how Embark is dealing with its most dedicated players (and grinders like me). I love a good grind just like you, but this is just not it at all. I don’t know how the future looks if they keep playing with me like this.
they are bad they add weapons they dont have to worry about ruining the meta and are a safe bet to the game. light didn’t need another silent weapon they have 2. heavy and medium already have better options
@@CommandoBlack123 That means nothing, he likely faced either bad opponents or had great teammates, or both. Sadly that weapon is simply never good to use. Not that you cant make it work, but you are 1000% making things harder for your team if you choose to use it. It is like playing heavy without having shields or not having the RPG. You can still win without these items, but it is far more difficult and annoying to do so.
@Hellnoadvertisementhave been playing this game since closed beta 2, the best shooter i’ve ever played, this season they made way too many bad choices, the game used to be enjoyable, but now it’s like a mobile game, pure grind for any drip feed content.
@@deckardp.i.4088more like they do NO choices. This season we got like 2 balance changes to nerf to hl. Also no making recoils horrible for a weapon isn't balancing it's just making the gun feel horrible to use
It's INSANE that you don't get to choose what skin you get at each rank. Mediums have to work harder than lights and heavies to get the skin for their weapon?
When it first came out, I was trying to grind it out, but then I asked myself "what am I really doing in my life?" I started asking big questions whether to grind a video game or take IT courses and cybersecurity to seek a better future. So I couldn't help but choose the latter. I might not get this Emerald skin, but I'm happy to know I'll have a chance at a brighter future tomorrow.
Bro legit this happened to me after losing 5k RS in terminal attack and dropping to 39k RS I was like how many time have i wasted playing this mode for my progress to just vanish in a day to cheaters and griefers I uninstalled the game after that, not even grinding to diamond fuck that
as a solo whos (not to brag) really decent at this game, trying to get max emerald rank is LAUGHABLY impossible. some teammates are running on 4 brain cells, lights flying solo, shotgun users missing every shot, enemy 3 stacks wiping a whole team in under 10 seconds. did I mention I'm at silver 1? I cannot mentally fathom the pain I'd have to put myself through to make it past the first emerald level. I love The Finals, I've done every contract to get every free skin in the game, but I refuse to mentally ruin my life for this game. I cant. it's driven me insane attempting to do so.
the thing with the guns of the finals, there is much more to it than just adding a weapon (im not talking about balance). Look at each of the shotguns in the game, you will find a lever action, double barrel, pump with slugs, and the funny rotating one. All of thoes are vastly different yet fill the shotgun category, and this is what they have been going for with all of the weapon types
I reached gold 1 a while ago, and I was demotivated to play the finals because I was making no progress but still winning some games, I genuinely was expecting Embark to add those games to the new Emerald rank when unlocked but no, I have to start from 0 and to top it off only full wins count, AND I PLAY solo. It's insanity. I just hope the amount of wins doesnt increase per rank. Imagine 10 games to reach Emerald 4 then 20 games to Emerald 3... you get the idea. Skins look good tho, but theres too litle time, i still have to attend my 9-5 job. I hope to get at least the M11
Me and my brother love this game. In s2, we had some time off work and we grinded the game out. In 1-2 weeks we went from unranked to diamond. We were dedicated. If our tactics weren't working, we'd develop new ones until we won. We love the look of the emerald weapons and prefer Cashout to Terminal Attack so prioritising Workd Tour is a no-brainer for us. Even if we were to play at our best consistently, we're unsure if we could even get to gold, let alone emerald. It just feels like an unfair grind. For me to get from Silver 1 to gold 1, I'd need over 15 tournament wins just to get there. The grind is unreasonable which is demoralising to players who don't have hundreds of free hours per week
I tried to get friends to regularly grind with me, but it was causing stress and solo queue in that mode is a fast track to ulcers...so I just gave up on it.
I absolutely agree with everything you said here. Although on the flipside I do like that the Emerald AKM skin has a touch of diamond on the iron sight, probably because they know how sought after the Diamond AKM skin is =)
I’ve solo queue’d all the way to emerald 3 which was not easy at all especially since I don’t have time to play this game all day every day, it’s a miracle that I got that far. And I simply won’t have enough time to reach emerald one by the time this season ends. They made the necessary progress way too long
Buddy I was gold 1 before they even announced emerald and will tell you I have a job family and life outside from my couch and I quit WT because of this system.
I totally agree, it's a terrible system. How infuriating then, when several times already reached the finals lost and nothing for it. They need to add rewards at least for reaching the final 0.5 points. And in general, I do not understand why add skins that can get 500-1000 streamers, and the bulk of players again will not get anything
I mean as long as the devs aren't like helldivers 2 where they literally nerf everything, I've been having a blast playing the finals recently after being gone for awhile
I personally love this system. >If you are a good player; you don't need to play that much, win pretty much every game and get the skins via skill (still kinda grindy) >If you are a bad/average player; you can grind out games and have a terrible win%, yet still have a chance to get the skins by the end of the season. One is skill and the other is commitment, either makes having the skins impressive and still gives everyone a chance! (the grind from scratch is wild tho lol)
I really like your content but i am disagree with you. There is simple no way a average player will ever get this. 😂 This will just push away instead of attract old and new players.
I think that the problem is it's fundamentally different from diamond/ruby. When I see a diamond or ruby skin I respect that they're probably skilled, even though more often than not I'm brutally disappointed by them in this area, whereas I imagine in future when I see emerald skins my mind will just automatically assume they have nothing better to do. With the current state of world tour, the emerald skins truly will be a sign of a grind, not skill sadly.
as a solo queue player that considers myself above average but not amazing ya this shit is down right diabolical, with games of people leaving to the non existant SBMM i don't have a stack of sweats to play with my friends don't play shooters much
it’s weird how they said they wanted to cater to casual/soloq players more but updates like these seem solely for those with literally nothing else to do.
I agree man, this shit is tragic. I've made it to so many final rounds just to lose and it's crushing every single time. I wasted hours and get absolutely nothing to show for it.
Embark has lost their mind. They turned the game into a sweat fest. I'm not bothering with it after an 8 hour work day. I wanna have fun and relax. Playing this game is not my job.
I just hit emerald 1 today, and it was one of the hardest most difficult grinds of my life. I’m used to the grind as well, but this was something else. I hope they don’t do this again, it was honestly awful
Competitive esports titles struggle with balance changes. On this game, it's a bit more complicated since it introduced a unique take on FPS. My guess is that this update is how Embark will determine how to modify the competitive aspect of The Finals without tipping the balance of the scales.
Beginning of the season I was mainly playing quick play bc I was just trying to get my battle pass missions done and be able to also play other games. Little did I know emerald would come out and man… the grind is absolutely nuts it’s only me and one other friend and ofcourse we are adults so our schedules don’t even match up to always continually play together. so I’m literally always playing with at least one random. I started at silver 4 about 3 days ago and now I’m gold 2. Literally a few hours before you uploaded this video I started doing the math and realized I’d have to literally win 3 times a day (plus some more bc I’m not even gold 1 yet) I lost my shit. No one who is actually alive is going to be able to get this. I have a full week long trip this month so that turns my 45 days I have left to more like 38…Embark I love you this game has so much potential…but why?
First season in 4 where i feel like im not gonna finish the battle pass and im lmpat done the first bonus page. Not to mention this season is short for some reason. The Halloween event felt like i wasn't even getting regular experience for the dailys to get the tickets for the event.
i hope you got emerald by now!! i kinda agree with the emerald status, i see a lot of people with that diamond FCAR that should NOT have it, i sweated like crazy to hit top 2k season 2, when i saw emerald i was worried but I truly think their trying to skim some of those people getting carried to top ranks from the ones carrying them lol, no disrepect to anybody but you know when somebody is a demon in a lobby or not.
yep im emerald 3 currently the grind is fucking real and im solo most of the time, my friends say the same thing about reaching the final round and loosing, literally a waist of time if you reach the finals and loose, i heard there bringing back the old cashout so i wonder whats gonna change, i also hit diamond 1 top 100 season 1 and it had its own problems but i would prefer going back to the normal way of earning points to rank up not wins, i do hope this improves as i dont want to be sweating my balls off constantly just to get maybe 1 win a day
I compl agree with you. Once I saw the wins required it was a really demotivating. 45 wins needed for the lewis gun and 46 days left. So in theory its possible, I just dont know if I have enough willpower to do it
when emerald got released tbh it was tough but my average from 1.5 wins a day went up to 5 wins a day then i steamrolled to emerald 1 soloq finished with 30ish days left not too bad with how much people complain
The amount of people that defend TA ranked at the beginning of the season for it to completely fail and throwing emerald in the middle of the season to make the Ak impossible to get ( not to mention if I knew about emerald from the beginning of the season I could have taken my time )
First if all there is no SBMM for Emerald many times in Solo q I encountered bronze and silver players. The stakes are not that high for them as they are for me they get progression no matter what they just have to qualify tounds even if they loose the Final round they get something which is completely insane on Embark's part idk what were they thinking while designing this grind. I haven't grinded alot in games and this was the first time i grinded seriously in my life. I was soo burnt out after reaching Emerald 2 and I just left it there lol. I even tried LFG but even in that sometimes teammates were bad which was annoying. Constantly giving hours for Emerald was becoming too much for me. The idea of this grind was great but implementing it this late in the season was just insanely dumb and idiotic only just to increase playing hours which is what I think. It should have been there from the start of the season.
Exactly bro this is what I’ve been saying, I love this game but as someone who is only gold 4 world tour badge, I feel like I would be about diamond 2 in previous seasons compared to how bad this grind is
I'm pretty good at the finals and probably have about a 25% winrate solo. But I'm 26, I play the finals for 6 hours a week. This means 3-5 wins a week.
Griinding unlocking the weapons was fun but now i already have them all. Unlocking gameplay features is actually so fun and i wouldn't say it is pay to win scince you can pick the order you unlock the weapons and abilities in.
Tbh, I wouldn’t be surprised if they do change it, they already made it a tiny bit easier to get up to emerald in the first place, I bet they tweak the numbers
they really do so much wrong in this season its crazy to me. I really dont understand how Embark went from a developer that everyone praised for them listening to the community and do so much for them, to this absolute disaster. Makes you want to quit the game for good. If next season doesnt start out with an insane banger im out.
I just reached S4/1 as a solo player and it feels like a Long ass run for real.. and the wins to reach another rank is increasing i'm already losing my mind ! But the grind never's gonna stop !
The 3 stacks will likely start dropping off once they reach Emerald 1 just like they did after reaching Gold 1. Also, a large number of Ruby players stopped playing TA to get Emerald 1. They will be going back to TA after getting Emerald 1 to keep their Ruby rank intact. So i think the grind will get easier after the first week or two, but still require that huge number of wins. I do wish you got something for finishing 2nd though. Like it could've been 1 point 2nd place, 2 points 1st place in the final round and made the number between ranks higher.
SO well said. Appreciate you, dude. I'm a Gold 1, and was planning on going for Emerald 1, but seeing what it takes, I don't have any incentive to play, because it's never going to happen.
they should merge the ranked and world tour, bc what game has to different grinds AND if they change back the ranked for cashout, why play the exact same thing in world tour yk. and ye a title sytem to put on player card would be cool.
the worst is that they said more people need to be gold1 so that they can enable the the finals mode but since you still play with regular world tour people you just have a differant goal makes no sense this should have been there from the beginning im gold 1 since the 3rd week so the 75 wins wouldn't be as bad but this is just insane im a top 200-300 world tour player but this is even difficult for me cause i don't have a 3 stack every day and playing with bronze lights makes this almost impossible for me
Well said. This echos my sentiment as well. Emark clearly made a mistake with TA being ranked this season, losing streamers and player count, so they decide to bring a last minute grind to the WT only to merge the sweats with the casual player base together. WT was suppose to be for the casuals. This was not well thought out and a panic move. I love this game, but not enough to go grind this hard. If Emark is catering to the elites (top 5-10% of the player base), your casual player base will eventually move on. I’m with you, Season 4 better come with a good rework.
I don't use the weapons that are emerald currently, so I'm hoping that in future seasons emerald will be a thing from the start and it will be weapons I like.
Thank you for making this video the progression system needs a rework its just down right frustrating and a lose in the final round is a waste of 40 minutes
More options to customize the playercard in the career levels would be awesome. And honestly some more difficult challeneges (1 or 2 per weekly set), would make the game a bit more replayable. Instead i hop on, finish all my dailies and most of my weekly challanges in
I had to uninstall The Finals, It was fun but I'm too casual to deal with the growing pains that this game is going through. I don't have the time or patience to wait around and hope the next patch makes it fun again.
I can't imagine myself spending so much time and effort just to feed my ego. (Getting a cosmetic) Thanks for waking me up, I hope Embark reconsiders how they do these systems.
I’m at 56/75 wins but I’m moving places so I won’t be able to play for two weeks… getting stressed for no reason about getting my remaining 19 wins before the end of the season.
There is skill based matchmaking. It's just that with the way tournaments are structured and how many players it takes they can't be too strict with the parameters. If you make a new account you'll see there's absolutely SBMM because the lobbies are SUPER easy.
my suggestion is at least the 2nd placement in the finals considered as 1 tourny win while the overall winner is considered as 2 win. i feel like that should be somewhat tolerable ass compared to the current unforgivable winning system
This is by far the worst season for people who solo queue. When I heard about the upcoming mode with Emerald, I thought it was just gonna be a 3v3 mode that plays a lot like the final round. I know it defeats the whole purpose of it being a challenge, but since there's very little time left in the season, it's going to be an absolute rough grind. Only being able to gain points by winning a tournament is unmotivating, especially when you get to the final round and lose, giving you no progress at all.
I prefer to play this soloq. I look at the players in the match and just leave if i know i wont win. There’s no leave penalty if you press the “play again” button. At 37 wins rn
i completely agree with you, I am a casual but regular player of the game and found it very difficult to get wins in tournaments, and getting 75 wins to reach Emerald 1 to get all the skins is just impossible for a casual player. unlike the previous season if anyone manages to hit even diamond 4 they get all the skins but in this one, it is not the same. which is a huge L and I believe that is why the game is losing players regularly as the majority of the players are casual but not huge grinders etc.
I feel like they should’ve did what overwatch did in their rank game, where they’ll give you points that you can spend to buy golden weapons through either playing or winning matches.🐱
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wait , from emerald onwards you only get progress if you WIN a full tournament? i saw red before my eyes when i heard that xD
Honestly, the right move for terminal attack would be to modify it and send it to the dark realm.
(Quick play).
I hate terminal attack ranked so much, it’s the least unique mode in this unique game.
World tour should be the main ranked mode
Don't you dare disrespect bank it >:(
Bank it is genuinely a lot of fun. No joke I would happily have that as the main ranked mode if it was between bank it and TA
Wait till bro touches power shift
They are killing us SoloQ guys. Super disappointed too because I care so little for TA. This was my shot to get a cool skin for playing the game I love and then they make it impossible to get
Originally i was gonna go from akm but rn im low silver 2 so im probably just gonna get the Light Emerald skin
Embark overcooked this season plain and simple this was the worst it's overcooked at this point it's all burnt
Ya I played 3 games yesterday 2 had the same sniper(useless) and the 3rd the person left so SOLOQ is definitely not happening
Not to mention this season is literally filled with hackers and when they get banned they just make new accounts. Most people who are in ruby either run with a hacker on an alt or just have a hacker on their team 😂 shits literally a joke.
I love to grind for the emerald ak :) peak Was rank 2300 last season so this will be possible.
When ur teammate leaves during the final round and you have to site through 10 minutes waiting to lose knowing you’ll get zero credit for making it all the way to the finals… love it
This is actually way more common than you'd think. Even if it's just xbox crashing while loading. Most of the time I don't think it's intentional, but it's more common than it should be.
@@ryans3795bro… I stopped playing terminal last week because for 7 GAMES IN A ROW.. someone left the match early in the game and it made the match forfeit
i solo qued twice today, 6h apart, and both times faced Balies's triple stack. Now I check twitch before having to queuing.
worst part is making it to the final round twice, only knowing that their chemistry will out preforme me and a couple of randomes.
Yep this exactly. People are going to get insanely burned out wasting time making no progress.
I beat his stack soloq. He’s good, but doesn’t always perform at his 100%
For me I’m just going for the little emerald sticker
Bro I'm ngl this comment was unexpected funny asf 😂😂 I feel it fr tho I thought I was gonna go for it while I could when I'm not working and taking care of family but nah that's way too dedicated and timely to get all the weapons emerald especially since I'm mostly a solo player so I agree I think the sticker is gonna be good for me I think😅😂
Same, idk what rank you need for it tho. Do you guys know?
@@chiimchauu gold 1 to be able to get the emerald
Emerald 4 @@chiimchauu
Do we get a "Emerald S3 player" tag or something for season 4 like many other games do?
one day has 24 hours, you use 8 hours of it for sleep, another 8 hour if you work a 9-5, or you have errands, school, stuff to attend, other kind of work to do, that leaves you with 8 hours remaining, and during this 8 hours left you're probably already tired and just want to relax and play games to HAVE FUN and make progress, spending 8 hours a day just to win 4 World Tours that constantly give you an uncoordinated team, a chaotic gameplay, a high ego team with heal beam but constantly running around on their own, a heavy sledge that constantly dies from chasing down a light dash, getting 3rd partied on first and 2nd knockout round, reach the final round and just to lose for absolutely nothing. if you think this is fun then whatever but to me this sounds like I would never enjoy. Not everyone has a friend that has the time to go on the same party and play together for 8 hours, not even I would play for 8 hours. While games are supposed to be fun for long hours, I would not enjoy playing the game for that long.
They should have made it so you only needed wins to get it just like any other rank. For what I know, World tour was made to give casual players a taste of the ranked system without the punishment of losing the game (since you can't go down in the ranks, only up). This is the complete opposite of that, not only you have to go all the way to the finals, but you also don't get anything if you lose, even on the final match, making you feel like all the time and effort was worthless. Specially with the sweats who swarm this mode.
There is no punishment. Just reward if u are a no life. Which is me.
@@jamarilittlejohn6345 The punishment is wasted time, obviously it's about the fun but some people find winning and progression fun, neither of which they'll get from the emerald grind.
@@hugegamer8004if you think that it was wasted time then Emerald is just not for you. I love the grind and every day since the Update, i love and grind grind grind
@@llakaiakumall7709 Progress towards emerald isn't wasted time, but any match you lose even if outskilling your opponents in every way apart from ability to find teammates, is wasted time. Undeniably.
@@hugegamer8004 its more time for you to get better while trying to climb. Im 550hours into it and i know what you mean but the only thing you really need is 1 guy u like spending time with
It's an insane grind for the insane player. You either have to be insanely good at the game and able to carry your stack or randoms to complete it in (relatively) reasonable time, or you literally no-life this game, ass glued to the chair grinding WT almost every waking hours grinding away at average or below average win rates. Both kinds of those people exist and this is aimed at them.
I'm towards the end of Gold 2 on WT and should be eligible for the grind pretty soon, maybe in a week's time I'll accept this isn't for me, just like the Ruby skins (Top 500 TA, lol fuck that) or maybe I'll make decent progress... we'll see.
I'm rooting for you!
My motivation died a couple weeks ago.
I never understood the fact that you just get nothing for coming 2nd. I've had my best game in a while getting 23 kills with supportive teammates but we couldn't pull through a win. And the reward is nothing.
Right, making it to "The Finals" should give you some sort of credit, that's like the entire theme of the game. Their whole tag line is like can you make it to the finals? WELL I DID and I didn't get JACK for making it there 😂
You choked the win. You deserve nothing
@@Killjoy.Z you made it to the finals which is their whole motto, and you qualified every game which takes up like 20 minutes at least. You deserve something
@NF-pk5mo you had a competitive, intense match that made u a better player and gave you something to think about heading into the next tournament. If you want the green gun skin, WIN The Finals.
@@NF-pk5mo ^
4 weeks later this guy's point still stands because HOLY SHIT the suffer the utter hell one has to go through, especialy for solo queuers, to get just ONE win is unbelievable, mentaly disabled teammates or utterly unbalanced lobbies. I am already 16 wins behind schedule despite all of the efforts, the biggest disapointement is having to go through all the shit, carry your mentaly disabled random teammates and you stil loose at the final round.
It’s just so stupid. I grinded to top 100 WT to get absolutely no recognition for that, followed up by a ridiculous grind for Emerald 1 making WT sweatier than ever and nearly impossible to get for most people. Love how you worded all of this, and hate how Embark is dealing with its most dedicated players (and grinders like me). I love a good grind just like you, but this is just not it at all. I don’t know how the future looks if they keep playing with me like this.
That's brutal man.
The gimmicky weapons aren’t bad ideas they just aren’t very well thought out
they are bad they add weapons they dont have to worry about ruining the meta and are a safe bet to the game. light didn’t need another silent weapon they have 2. heavy and medium already have better options
Only dual blades sucked. The bow and spear are actually good weapons if you use them properly.
@@CommandoBlack123spear is literally the worst weapon behind maybe the shield for medium and mgl I dunno what ur talking about
@@normalhuman4951 I literally watched a spear guy completely dominate multiple lobbies.
@@CommandoBlack123 That means nothing, he likely faced either bad opponents or had great teammates, or both.
Sadly that weapon is simply never good to use. Not that you cant make it work, but you are 1000% making things harder for your team if you choose to use it. It is like playing heavy without having shields or not having the RPG. You can still win without these items, but it is far more difficult and annoying to do so.
I don’t understand why every decision they make is so hostile to their own playerbase
@Hellnoadvertisementhave been playing this game since closed beta 2, the best shooter i’ve ever played, this season they made way too many bad choices, the game used to be enjoyable, but now it’s like a mobile game, pure grind for any drip feed content.
Because they are incompetent. Just look at the balancing and nerf of weapons. They do all the wrong choices.
@@deckardp.i.4088more like they do NO choices. This season we got like 2 balance changes to nerf to hl. Also no making recoils horrible for a weapon isn't balancing it's just making the gun feel horrible to use
It's INSANE that you don't get to choose what skin you get at each rank. Mediums have to work harder than lights and heavies to get the skin for their weapon?
played for 8 hours straight today and only got 1 win... all the lobbies are so sweaty. it feels like everyone is already emerald
fuck that lmao
When it first came out, I was trying to grind it out, but then I asked myself "what am I really doing in my life?"
I started asking big questions whether to grind a video game or take IT courses and cybersecurity to seek a better future. So I couldn't help but choose the latter.
I might not get this Emerald skin, but I'm happy to know I'll have a chance at a brighter future tomorrow.
The emerald weapon grind was literally the turning point in your life 💀
Bro legit this happened to me after losing 5k RS in terminal attack and dropping to 39k RS
I was like how many time have i wasted playing this mode for my progress to just vanish in a day to cheaters and griefers
I uninstalled the game after that, not even grinding to diamond fuck that
I wish I had this sort of reasoning in my life lol😂
The bigger problem is why am i playing kyoto all the fucking time
This event makes people hack
@Val-Yoblet’s link
as a solo whos (not to brag) really decent at this game, trying to get max emerald rank is LAUGHABLY impossible. some teammates are running on 4 brain cells, lights flying solo, shotgun users missing every shot, enemy 3 stacks wiping a whole team in under 10 seconds. did I mention I'm at silver 1? I cannot mentally fathom the pain I'd have to put myself through to make it past the first emerald level. I love The Finals, I've done every contract to get every free skin in the game, but I refuse to mentally ruin my life for this game. I cant. it's driven me insane attempting to do so.
In the one with the shotgun 😢
Im soloQ. At 37 win rn, the players I find soloQ are better than the players i get from lfg lmao.
the thing with the guns of the finals, there is much more to it than just adding a weapon (im not talking about balance). Look at each of the shotguns in the game, you will find a lever action, double barrel, pump with slugs, and the funny rotating one. All of thoes are vastly different yet fill the shotgun category, and this is what they have been going for with all of the weapon types
I reached gold 1 a while ago, and I was demotivated to play the finals because I was making no progress but still winning some games, I genuinely was expecting Embark to add those games to the new Emerald rank when unlocked but no, I have to start from 0 and to top it off only full wins count, AND I PLAY solo. It's insanity. I just hope the amount of wins doesnt increase per rank. Imagine 10 games to reach Emerald 4 then 20 games to Emerald 3... you get the idea. Skins look good tho, but theres too litle time, i still have to attend my 9-5 job. I hope to get at least the M11
I feel you - I grind alone too. . . And this is super demotivating from Embark
its 75wins total for emerald 1. im emerald 4 19/25wins towards emerald 3
Me and my brother love this game. In s2, we had some time off work and we grinded the game out. In 1-2 weeks we went from unranked to diamond. We were dedicated. If our tactics weren't working, we'd develop new ones until we won.
We love the look of the emerald weapons and prefer Cashout to Terminal Attack so prioritising Workd Tour is a no-brainer for us.
Even if we were to play at our best consistently, we're unsure if we could even get to gold, let alone emerald.
It just feels like an unfair grind. For me to get from Silver 1 to gold 1, I'd need over 15 tournament wins just to get there.
The grind is unreasonable which is demoralising to players who don't have hundreds of free hours per week
Agreed! Almost my exact same experience!
I tried to get friends to regularly grind with me, but it was causing stress and solo queue in that mode is a fast track to ulcers...so I just gave up on it.
This video really describes how im feeling about the Finals rn. Thank You for Posting❤
I absolutely agree with everything you said here. Although on the flipside I do like that the Emerald AKM skin has a touch of diamond on the iron sight, probably because they know how sought after the Diamond AKM skin is =)
Power shift is pretty good
I’ve solo queue’d all the way to emerald 3 which was not easy at all especially since I don’t have time to play this game all day every day, it’s a miracle that I got that far. And I simply won’t have enough time to reach emerald one by the time this season ends. They made the necessary progress way too long
That’s why they specifically said in the patch notes “for those who are already in gold”
Buddy I was gold 1 before they even announced emerald and will tell you I have a job family and life outside from my couch and I quit WT because of this system.
I won 3 tournaments in row just to get 10 points towards my next rank , and I was mvp for 2 of them
I totally agree, it's a terrible system. How infuriating then, when several times already reached the finals lost and nothing for it. They need to add rewards at least for reaching the final 0.5 points. And in general, I do not understand why add skins that can get 500-1000 streamers, and the bulk of players again will not get anything
I mean as long as the devs aren't like helldivers 2 where they literally nerf everything, I've been having a blast playing the finals recently after being gone for awhile
wow and I was actually gonna try to grind to emerald but if I have to get to emerald 1 then there is no point
I personally love this system.
>If you are a good player; you don't need to play that much, win pretty much every game and get the skins via skill (still kinda grindy)
>If you are a bad/average player; you can grind out games and have a terrible win%, yet still have a chance to get the skins by the end of the season.
One is skill and the other is commitment, either makes having the skins impressive and still gives everyone a chance! (the grind from scratch is wild tho lol)
Sup Xanderiom
I really like your content but i am disagree with you. There is simple no way a average player will ever get this. 😂
This will just push away instead of attract old and new players.
@@jago3253 its obviously not meant for the average player, its just diamond/ruby for wt
I think that the problem is it's fundamentally different from diamond/ruby. When I see a diamond or ruby skin I respect that they're probably skilled, even though more often than not I'm brutally disappointed by them in this area, whereas I imagine in future when I see emerald skins my mind will just automatically assume they have nothing better to do. With the current state of world tour, the emerald skins truly will be a sign of a grind, not skill sadly.
who is this for? it’s for me. the one with access to the game from my psych ward.
If my season three rant thumbnail inspired this title my ego would be throbbing
Its crazy broo only won 17 games but its crazy but will get it its funn
as a solo queue player that considers myself above average but not amazing ya this shit is down right diabolical, with games of people leaving to the non existant SBMM i don't have a stack of sweats to play with my friends don't play shooters much
I think new weapons would be cool but they aren’t the end the abilities you can throw together can make or break a squad
Trying to maintain ruby while also trying to get emerald 1 destroyed my life? My wife left me and took the kids after smashing my TV.
Finally hit Emerald 1 solo queue let’s gooooo😭
Was it worth it lol?
@@ZybakTV When I get that AK in my hands yes. 🙂
it’s weird how they said they wanted to cater to casual/soloq players more but updates like these seem solely for those with literally nothing else to do.
I could care less about emerald skin as long as I'm having fun playing this game that's what really matters to me tbh
Made it to emerald 3 with 13 tournament wins no the next stage I need 20 more wins I give up screw that 🤣
Same I’m fine with the emerald smg😂
why isn't the emerald gun showing up for me i made to emerald 3 and i don't see em
I agree man, this shit is tragic. I've made it to so many final rounds just to lose and it's crushing every single time. I wasted hours and get absolutely nothing to show for it.
Embark has lost their mind. They turned the game into a sweat fest. I'm not bothering with it after an 8 hour work day. I wanna have fun and relax. Playing this game is not my job.
I wholeheartedly support and second everything that has been said in this video. Someone should send this straight to Embark.
I just hit emerald 1 today, and it was one of the hardest most difficult grinds of my life. I’m used to the grind as well, but this was something else. I hope they don’t do this again, it was honestly awful
Competitive esports titles struggle with balance changes. On this game, it's a bit more complicated since it introduced a unique take on FPS. My guess is that this update is how Embark will determine how to modify the competitive aspect of The Finals without tipping the balance of the scales.
Beginning of the season I was mainly playing quick play bc I was just trying to get my battle pass missions done and be able to also play other games. Little did I know emerald would come out and man… the grind is absolutely nuts it’s only me and one other friend and ofcourse we are adults so our schedules don’t even match up to always continually play together. so I’m literally always playing with at least one random. I started at silver 4 about 3 days ago and now I’m gold 2. Literally a few hours before you uploaded this video I started doing the math and realized I’d have to literally win 3 times a day (plus some more bc I’m not even gold 1 yet) I lost my shit. No one who is actually alive is going to be able to get this. I have a full week long trip this month so that turns my 45 days I have left to more like 38…Embark I love you this game has so much potential…but why?
i had some god luck in my final leg of emrald grind, got into balise's stack 5 times in a row
First season in 4 where i feel like im not gonna finish the battle pass and im lmpat done the first bonus page. Not to mention this season is short for some reason.
The Halloween event felt like i wasn't even getting regular experience for the dailys to get the tickets for the event.
i hope you got emerald by now!! i kinda agree with the emerald status, i see a lot of people with that diamond FCAR that should NOT have it, i sweated like crazy to hit top 2k season 2, when i saw emerald i was worried but I truly think their trying to skim some of those people getting carried to top ranks from the ones carrying them lol, no disrepect to anybody but you know when somebody is a demon in a lobby or not.
yep im emerald 3 currently the grind is fucking real and im solo most of the time, my friends say the same thing about reaching the final round and loosing, literally a waist of time if you reach the finals and loose, i heard there bringing back the old cashout so i wonder whats gonna change, i also hit diamond 1 top 100 season 1 and it had its own problems but i would prefer going back to the normal way of earning points to rank up not wins, i do hope this improves as i dont want to be sweating my balls off constantly just to get maybe 1 win a day
I compl agree with you. Once I saw the wins required it was a really demotivating. 45 wins needed for the lewis gun and 46 days left. So in theory its possible, I just dont know if I have enough willpower to do it
when emerald got released tbh it was tough but my average from 1.5 wins a day went up to 5 wins a day then i steamrolled to emerald 1 soloq finished with 30ish days left not too bad with how much people complain
The amount of people that defend TA ranked at the beginning of the season for it to completely fail and throwing emerald in the middle of the season to make the Ak impossible to get ( not to mention if I knew about emerald from the beginning of the season I could have taken my time )
First if all there is no SBMM for Emerald many times in Solo q I encountered bronze and silver players. The stakes are not that high for them as they are for me they get progression no matter what they just have to qualify tounds even if they loose the Final round they get something which is completely insane on Embark's part idk what were they thinking while designing this grind. I haven't grinded alot in games and this was the first time i grinded seriously in my life. I was soo burnt out after reaching Emerald 2 and I just left it there lol. I even tried LFG but even in that sometimes teammates were bad which was annoying. Constantly giving hours for Emerald was becoming too much for me. The idea of this grind was great but implementing it this late in the season was just insanely dumb and idiotic only just to increase playing hours which is what I think. It should have been there from the start of the season.
WE SHOULD GET 1 POINT FOR REACHING THE FINALS. 2 FOR WINNING IT
Exactly bro this is what I’ve been saying, I love this game but as someone who is only gold 4 world tour badge, I feel like I would be about diamond 2 in previous seasons compared to how bad this grind is
I'm pretty good at the finals and probably have about a 25% winrate solo. But I'm 26, I play the finals for 6 hours a week.
This means 3-5 wins a week.
Griinding unlocking the weapons was fun but now i already have them all. Unlocking gameplay features is actually so fun and i wouldn't say it is pay to win scince you can pick the order you unlock the weapons and abilities in.
Bro destroying everyone with the so called bad medium gun
My house flooded, will be so much fun to grind when im out of this hotel...
The best thing about this is that the unranked modes are great to play right now because everyone is trying to get these emerald skins😂😂😂😂
Tbh, I wouldn’t be surprised if they do change it, they already made it a tiny bit easier to get up to emerald in the first place, I bet they tweak the numbers
they really do so much wrong in this season its crazy to me. I really dont understand how Embark went from a developer that everyone praised for them listening to the community and do so much for them, to this absolute disaster. Makes you want to quit the game for good. If next season doesnt start out with an insane banger im out.
Damn even TFSS (understandably) wants to leave :(
not only the hurdles mentioned in the video, but hackers have returned in this game as well, making the grind all the more difficult
If you wonder after two minutes: is this guy going to repeat this same argument for another ten minutes? Well, yes he does…
I just reached S4/1 as a solo player and it feels like a Long ass run for real.. and the wins to reach another rank is increasing i'm already losing my mind ! But the grind never's gonna stop !
The 3 stacks will likely start dropping off once they reach Emerald 1 just like they did after reaching Gold 1. Also, a large number of Ruby players stopped playing TA to get Emerald 1. They will be going back to TA after getting Emerald 1 to keep their Ruby rank intact. So i think the grind will get easier after the first week or two, but still require that huge number of wins.
I do wish you got something for finishing 2nd though. Like it could've been 1 point 2nd place, 2 points 1st place in the final round and made the number between ranks higher.
SO well said. Appreciate you, dude. I'm a Gold 1, and was planning on going for Emerald 1, but seeing what it takes, I don't have any incentive to play, because it's never going to happen.
Skill issue
@@HakiBoi123 Having a life issue.
they should merge the ranked and world tour, bc what game has to different grinds AND if they change back the ranked for cashout, why play the exact same thing in world tour yk. and ye a title sytem to put on player card would be cool.
the worst is that they said more people need to be gold1 so that they can enable the the finals mode but since you still play with regular world tour people you just have a differant goal makes no sense this should have been there from the beginning im gold 1 since the 3rd week so the 75 wins wouldn't be as bad but this is just insane im a top 200-300 world tour player but this is even difficult for me cause i don't have a 3 stack every day and playing with bronze lights makes this almost impossible for me
Well said. This echos my sentiment as well. Emark clearly made a mistake with TA being ranked this season, losing streamers and player count, so they decide to bring a last minute grind to the WT only to merge the sweats with the casual player base together. WT was suppose to be for the casuals. This was not well thought out and a panic move. I love this game, but not enough to go grind this hard. If Emark is catering to the elites (top 5-10% of the player base), your casual player base will eventually move on. I’m with you, Season 4 better come with a good rework.
I don't use the weapons that are emerald currently, so I'm hoping that in future seasons emerald will be a thing from the start and it will be weapons I like.
Thank you for making this video the progression system needs a rework its just down right frustrating and a lose in the final round is a waste of 40 minutes
More options to customize the playercard in the career levels would be awesome. And honestly some more difficult challeneges (1 or 2 per weekly set), would make the game a bit more replayable. Instead i hop on, finish all my dailies and most of my weekly challanges in
I had to uninstall The Finals, It was fun but I'm too casual to deal with the growing pains that this game is going through. I don't have the time or patience to wait around and hope the next patch makes it fun again.
at a 50% win rate assuming you're gold 1 this will take roughly 50+ hours to complete. Pretty nuts.
50% is an absolutely insanely high win rate too. Especially in the current environment.
Even with that high of a rating, my calculations suggest upwards of 70 hours, so approaching 100 with any lower or more realistic a win rate.
One thing that also bothers me a bit is all the wasted tourney wins I got as gold 1 before this update. I truly wasted my time
I can't imagine myself spending so much time and effort just to feed my ego. (Getting a cosmetic)
Thanks for waking me up, I hope Embark reconsiders how they do these systems.
Make it 140 points, win final round 2 points, lose final round 1 point.
I’m at 56/75 wins but I’m moving places so I won’t be able to play for two weeks… getting stressed for no reason about getting my remaining 19 wins before the end of the season.
The only change I hope they add to world tour is skill based matchmaking or MMR for solo queue 😢
There is skill based matchmaking. It's just that with the way tournaments are structured and how many players it takes they can't be too strict with the parameters. If you make a new account you'll see there's absolutely SBMM because the lobbies are SUPER easy.
This grind takes a lot of time, you do have to put in about 8 hours a day and currently it’s about 2 wins a day with the time left
Fun fact : World tour has no SBMM meaning the emeralds get matched with lowest ranks
my suggestion is at least the 2nd placement in the finals considered as 1 tourny win while the overall winner is considered as 2 win. i feel like that should be somewhat tolerable ass compared to the current unforgivable winning system
This is by far the worst season for people who solo queue. When I heard about the upcoming mode with Emerald, I thought it was just gonna be a 3v3 mode that plays a lot like the final round. I know it defeats the whole purpose of it being a challenge, but since there's very little time left in the season, it's going to be an absolute rough grind. Only being able to gain points by winning a tournament is unmotivating, especially when you get to the final round and lose, giving you no progress at all.
I prefer to play this soloq. I look at the players in the match and just leave if i know i wont win. There’s no leave penalty if you press the “play again” button. At 37 wins rn
i completely agree with you, I am a casual but regular player of the game and found it very difficult to get wins in tournaments, and getting 75 wins to reach Emerald 1 to get all the skins is just impossible for a casual player. unlike the previous season if anyone manages to hit even diamond 4 they get all the skins but in this one, it is not the same. which is a huge L and I believe that is why the game is losing players regularly as the majority of the players are casual but not huge grinders etc.
That video couldve been 30 seconds but the point stands ig
Unironically gave the video a like as soon as I heard “ I AM A GAMER “
I used to play this game as a solo because none of my friends play this game but it's slowly killing me and I'm not even half way through bp
Update: i now have 37 wins. Im a really average player, I have a job and responsibilities. But god dammit im getting that AK
I feel like they should’ve did what overwatch did in their rank game, where they’ll give you points that you can spend to buy golden weapons through either playing or winning matches.🐱
:3
This video killed my motivation to get to emerald, I hope they really do something about it as I try to get to Gold 1 first
i needed 6 day (35-40h) for ermerald 1 (75 wins). Good Team. Good Build. Ez Win. Its not so hard and dont forget, you have time the full season.
I play like 5 hours a day 3 days a week and I might actually be able to do it