Marc, of all the MSM setup videos yours hit home. I was able to setup and easily understand. I am taking a trip to Sedona Arizona next week and your info on the MSM will make it all worth it. Thank You
Thanks for the info, but I’m still a bit unsure of the complete set up. So you have: 1) Tripod with your “standard” ball head 2) MSM with an Arca quick release plate on bottom which is then attached to the tripod. 3) A second ball head attached on top of the MSM;and 4) The V plate on top of the second ball head? Are you attaching your camera to the V Plate with quarter inch tripod screw or a quick release plate? Thanks!
Just switch around #3 and 4. V-plate is attached directly to the MSM with another small ball head attached to the V-plate. That way the camera can attach with the L-bracket (or plate) easily to the ball head.
They are great little devices for portable trackers. I'm excited for the production version of new NOMADE tracker to come out; will definitely update reviews once I have that in hand.
Hi Marc. I really enjoyed your tracker set up. I have the same ball head and have an extra plate, but can't seem to screw it to the tracker as the hole in the plate is big and the tracker takes a smaller screw.....what did you use to attach the tracker to the plate. THANKS, in advance. Ken
Hey Ken - I just used a 1/4-20 screw I had lying around. Depending on your plate, you may need to use a washer or cobble something together, but should be fairly simple. Feel free to message me (through my website, DM on Instagram, etc) and I can send you pics / help sort yours out.
Ideally yes, you’d be starting with a perfectly level tripod. I often use a leveling base for this, but many times for wide angle lenses, close enough is good enough.
Honestly, it's just a matter of getting used to your setup and practice. When the battery is fully charged, the laser is pretty good. And the speed of this setup is why I recommend doing it on a ball head like this - it's a matter of turning the laser on, pointing it to Polaris to it visually lines up, and locking down the ball head. For this kind of wide-angle astrophotography, usually close enough is good enough.
The V-plate has a small 1/4-20 thumb screw (like what you find on a tripod plate) that you can screw directly in to your ball head. If your ball head accepts 3/8-16 threads, you can thread one of the brass adapters on to the thumb screw so it fits the larger hole in your ball head.
I don't think they still make this exact model (Vector), but the tripod is from Colorado Tripod Company - coloradotripod.com/products/centennial-tripod?variant=31954376425539. And the ball head is the Really Right Stuff BH-55.
You're right, and the fading light doesn't help either... But you should be able to get some good details in the blog writeup here: marcrasselphoto.com/blog/move-shoot-move-portable-star-tracker
@@marcrasselphotography the original comment is a bit rude, but it's not entirely wrong. But it's relative to context. You titled this video as a "How To" not a "What is". If you HAD labeled it as a What Is (or anything to that effect), the expectation would be different. You can always say something like "Move Shoot Move - Tiny Star Tracker - What is it and how to set up". With that you've created the expectation that you're going to explain what it is AND show how to set it up. Now, is 4 minutes an appropriate amount of time to explain what it is? Depends, perhaps a bit much. If MSMs own description page can do that in 20 seconds of text, and it's sufficient, then yes, 4 minutes is too much. It's just all context. Think it through and you'll land on a good balance. And don't be afraid to shoot long, and then cut if needed in post. Be very unforgiving in your cutting in post. If it doesn't truly add to the content (dead air, too many pauses, mistakes, going in circles, repetitiveness, etc.), get rid of it. Entertainment value is obviously acceptable as well. In any case, hope that is a bit more constructive ;)
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Marc, of all the MSM setup videos yours hit home. I was able to setup and easily understand. I am taking a trip to Sedona Arizona next week and your info on the MSM will make it all worth it. Thank You
I'm glad this one worked well for you - hope you were able to get some great shots!
It’s good to see when it doesn’t go our way too.
I remember how it felt after the restrictions were lifted. It was glorious!
Very helpfunctie.Thanks Marc !
Great explanation and easy set up.
Thanks David - Glad you found it helpful!
Thank you! At times I find human were really good at complicated things!
We’re pretty good at that most of the time.
Excellent very helpful video tutorial, thanks!
I’m glad you found it helpful!
Simple is always better. Thanks Marc.
Most of the time that's true.
Thanks for the info, but I’m still a bit unsure of the complete set up. So you have:
1) Tripod with your “standard” ball head
2) MSM with an Arca quick release plate on bottom which is then attached to the tripod.
3) A second ball head attached on top of the MSM;and
4) The V plate on top of the second ball head?
Are you attaching your camera to the V Plate with quarter inch tripod screw or a quick release plate?
Thanks!
Just switch around #3 and 4. V-plate is attached directly to the MSM with another small ball head attached to the V-plate. That way the camera can attach with the L-bracket (or plate) easily to the ball head.
Great video!! Thanks!!
Glad you found it helpful
Great video, I've been thinking about purchasing the MSM unit. I just subscribed to your channel and look forward to future videos.
They are great little devices for portable trackers. I'm excited for the production version of new NOMADE tracker to come out; will definitely update reviews once I have that in hand.
Excellent ---- 5 stars
Glad you found it helpful 👍
Hi Marc. I really enjoyed your tracker set up. I have the same ball head and have an extra plate, but can't seem to screw it to the tracker as the hole in the plate is big and the tracker takes a smaller screw.....what did you use to attach the tracker to the plate. THANKS, in advance. Ken
Hey Ken - I just used a 1/4-20 screw I had lying around. Depending on your plate, you may need to use a washer or cobble something together, but should be fairly simple. Feel free to message me (through my website, DM on Instagram, etc) and I can send you pics / help sort yours out.
@@marcrasselphotography thanks Marc. The slot seems to be pretty big; so, that’s what stumped me. A washer! Who knew? 🥴
Which model .?
Thx thx
Great video
This is the current v2 MSM (though the new one should be coming out soon)
So its alright to reposition the camera once the tracker has the camera on its side ?
@@tomb9420 as long as you’re only moving the camera and not the tracker, yes.
@@marcrasselphotography do you have any videos on the auto guider ?
@@tomb9420 unfortunately the MSM doesn’t have an auto guider input
Hi Mark. I thought the triopod should be level. But I don't see you doing that?
Ideally yes, you’d be starting with a perfectly level tripod. I often use a leveling base for this, but many times for wide angle lenses, close enough is good enough.
@@marcrasselphotography thanks for Youri quick answer Marc
How did you align so quickly this miniature and barely powerful laser to Polaris which is a gazillion kilometers away? What step did I miss?
Honestly, it's just a matter of getting used to your setup and practice. When the battery is fully charged, the laser is pretty good. And the speed of this setup is why I recommend doing it on a ball head like this - it's a matter of turning the laser on, pointing it to Polaris to it visually lines up, and locking down the ball head. For this kind of wide-angle astrophotography, usually close enough is good enough.
How do you connect the ballhead to the V-plate?
The V-plate has a small 1/4-20 thumb screw (like what you find on a tripod plate) that you can screw directly in to your ball head. If your ball head accepts 3/8-16 threads, you can thread one of the brass adapters on to the thumb screw so it fits the larger hole in your ball head.
what tripod and ball head are you using?
I don't think they still make this exact model (Vector), but the tripod is from Colorado Tripod Company - coloradotripod.com/products/centennial-tripod?variant=31954376425539. And the ball head is the Really Right Stuff BH-55.
You need closeups. Black gloves and black device I just see a black blob.
You're right, and the fading light doesn't help either... But you should be able to get some good details in the blog writeup here: marcrasselphoto.com/blog/move-shoot-move-portable-star-tracker
I Upgrade my MSM with a better Akku (can know shot 6-7 Houers 😎
My battery died before that so I don't have to replace anything..
Did you increase total Ah capacity?
@@marcrasselphotography Yes, you just have to be careful that the similar one in the same case fits in terms of width and length.
The screws are easy to open with the right tool.
I got an energy drink rush at that time 🤣☝🏻
The battery was actually ordered quite cheaply from China on ebay
Are you serious, you talking 4 mins at the beginning of the video. Why do the content creators always wast our time?
Thanks for the feedback - constructive criticism is always appreciated.
Any advice for using the time lapse set up?
@@greggjakoby1281 I don't use the MSM for timelapse (its original main purpose...) so can't really speak to that, unfortunately.
@@marcrasselphotography I appreciated the talking you did at the beginning as it gives perspective to your opinion and experience with MSM - thanks!
@@marcrasselphotography the original comment is a bit rude, but it's not entirely wrong. But it's relative to context. You titled this video as a "How To" not a "What is". If you HAD labeled it as a What Is (or anything to that effect), the expectation would be different. You can always say something like "Move Shoot Move - Tiny Star Tracker - What is it and how to set up". With that you've created the expectation that you're going to explain what it is AND show how to set it up. Now, is 4 minutes an appropriate amount of time to explain what it is? Depends, perhaps a bit much. If MSMs own description page can do that in 20 seconds of text, and it's sufficient, then yes, 4 minutes is too much. It's just all context. Think it through and you'll land on a good balance. And don't be afraid to shoot long, and then cut if needed in post. Be very unforgiving in your cutting in post. If it doesn't truly add to the content (dead air, too many pauses, mistakes, going in circles, repetitiveness, etc.), get rid of it. Entertainment value is obviously acceptable as well. In any case, hope that is a bit more constructive ;)