Mixing JONNY CRAIG vocals w/ Erik Ron - Slaves "I'd Rather See Your Star Explode"

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  • Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
  • Erik Ron talks about working with Jonny Craig for the first time on "I'd Rather See Your Star Explode" by Slaves, and goes over his signal chain and process for mixing.
    He talks about when he does and doesn't double the vocals; compression strategy using a Manley, Shadow Hills AND a Softube 1176; the stock Pro Tools de-esser; reverb with the UAD plate reverb plugin; delay with Soundtoys Echoboy and more!
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Комментарии • 124

  • @KrissyKoinis
    @KrissyKoinis 5 лет назад +145

    can I just have hours of Jonny's raw vocals bc I could listen to them all day

  • @anon8538
    @anon8538 5 лет назад +144

    If you guys don't know this about Jonny he will come into a studio with the song already prepared in his head. He is constantly singing just hanging out around his house or doing his daily routine. His mind is virtually a music box that never stops. Just as another bit, he walked into the studio years ago with Dance Gavin Dance and recorded the intro to Times New Roman. One take. Without saying anything.

    • @xer0cool
      @xer0cool 5 лет назад +11

      @Ø Most great artists were on drugs.

    • @imwindex2033
      @imwindex2033 5 лет назад +9

      @Ø jonny was good even on drugs no matter what but once he got clean hes a good person and an even better singer and still hasn't lost his vocal or lyrical tallent lmao

    • @theecarking
      @theecarking 5 лет назад +8

      sad boi forever Was clean. Lol. Unfortunately he just relapsed.

    • @tyken144
      @tyken144 5 лет назад +1

      @@theecarking ikk it kills me

    • @theecarking
      @theecarking 5 лет назад +6

      Lil Scremo He made the right choice to stay home and get better tho. The band made it seem like he'd rather go do drugs than sing.

  • @MrChucklesGaming
    @MrChucklesGaming 4 года назад +38

    Jonny Craig is the greatest vocalist of our generation.

  • @CGagnon5
    @CGagnon5 5 лет назад +65

    I really wish they'd release the isolated vocals for this song

  • @averyb5260
    @averyb5260 5 лет назад +30

    Having been a Jonny fan for 10 years, and now being an engineer, It’s been a long time since I’ve seen something I loved so much

  • @sonofskaar5729
    @sonofskaar5729 5 лет назад +35

    Jonny is the definition of talented

  • @jlav9594
    @jlav9594 5 лет назад +13

    It's amazing that he talks about Jonny in such a way and Johnny was just kicked out of slaves today this video was made not even 2 weeks ago

    • @eldiablo4160
      @eldiablo4160 3 года назад +1

      Because it doesn’t take away from who he is as a vocalist. That’s what’s being show cased here.

  • @shawnkurtisTV
    @shawnkurtisTV 5 лет назад +22

    My favorite vocalists. You're lucky man.

  • @mitch7191
    @mitch7191 5 лет назад +14

    I can listen to just his vocal non stop all day😭

  • @hi.nixson
    @hi.nixson 4 года назад +16

    I'm surprised Slaves didn't release just an acapella version of their latest album, it's a no brainer

  • @PaintByBlunders
    @PaintByBlunders 5 лет назад +9

    Absolutely love the way you mix vocals!

  • @mchitti
    @mchitti 5 лет назад +6

    this video is a blessing

  • @chadtv3435
    @chadtv3435 Год назад +2

    15 minutes for that masterpiece? Hes amazing vocalist!

  • @Khristian.J
    @Khristian.J 5 лет назад +6

    jonny craig and the weeknd! perfect collab

  • @andrewdevall4438
    @andrewdevall4438 5 лет назад +4

    Well now I know why Jonny sounds so much better live

  • @JamesBos
    @JamesBos 5 лет назад +60

    If only I had a Macbook Pro I could mix this on...

    • @jessbarrett5598
      @jessbarrett5598 5 лет назад

      Lmao

    • @Yusoo8
      @Yusoo8 3 года назад

      If only you had half the voice like jonnys

  • @RelentlessOhiox
    @RelentlessOhiox 5 лет назад +9

    I have been playing guitar for 12 years. I know all about guitar. But this. I might as well be listening / watching Japanese. I can play the song thats about it.

  • @echoingmelodies
    @echoingmelodies Год назад +1

    This song is a masterpiece

  • @macrountts
    @macrountts 5 лет назад +2

    This is amazing. I love it, love the song, these dudes rock! Thank you for sharing!

  • @paul-ts6ot
    @paul-ts6ot 5 лет назад +7

    "He almost de-essed himself"
    DEAD :')

    • @djentlover
      @djentlover 5 лет назад +1

      If you are a good singer, you smooth out your consonants

  • @ArTiFiCiAlInSpIrAtIoNs
    @ArTiFiCiAlInSpIrAtIoNs 5 лет назад +5

    Dude said "Silibance"........ Definitely pro

  • @Disheartened6
    @Disheartened6 5 лет назад +1

    LOL! He starts to loosen up & be himself once the music hits😂 I was waiting for it👍👍👍

  • @KerriHooper
    @KerriHooper 5 лет назад +4

    Looking good Eyal!

  • @Strawhat102
    @Strawhat102 2 года назад +1

    best vocalist of all time.no question.the end.

  • @ModFather_JDM
    @ModFather_JDM 5 лет назад +4

    QUESTION?
    Did he also do the same to the Lyrics in slower acoustic version?

  • @f0kxi
    @f0kxi 10 месяцев назад

    The message of this song is my favorite from Jonny Craig

  • @AmericanMe
    @AmericanMe 5 лет назад +6

    Them orange slices on the back table FTW

  • @duzikh
    @duzikh 5 лет назад +5

    Nice vocalist!

  • @JayPlaidBatman
    @JayPlaidBatman 5 лет назад +1

    Amazing

  • @hieih8
    @hieih8 5 лет назад +55

    Can you watch the video without sing along with Jonny? I bet you don't.

  • @phs2Chelsea
    @phs2Chelsea 5 лет назад

    Love this song so much

  • @therdai-art
    @therdai-art 3 года назад

    Very cool take

  • @joeymusic
    @joeymusic 5 лет назад +10

    Can’t wait to use some JST plugins on this!

  • @3brokenstrings2536
    @3brokenstrings2536 3 года назад

    I Love This!

  • @GMera
    @GMera 2 года назад

    He likes the UAD Plate so much, Good that you have 11 days left on the demo! :-) Haha

  • @PapaRainYT
    @PapaRainYT 4 года назад +1

    I literally just want the stems to this song... I wanna buy them without having a membership mannn

  • @Aron97.
    @Aron97. 5 лет назад

    Very interesting!

  • @AudioBoi1
    @AudioBoi1 5 лет назад +4

    This guy is on high from his beloving job)

  • @forsidekhan5405
    @forsidekhan5405 5 лет назад +1

    Good.

  • @JUNKO____
    @JUNKO____ 5 лет назад +20

    The P's and G's in his vocal performance sound like he's just breathing out of his nose instead of making that P/G sound.

    • @Rygar91
      @Rygar91 5 лет назад +5

      Could be from the fact that these are crazy over compressed. His tiny nose breathes are the same volume as his voice cuz of this. Like when he says "keep me on the ground" he sounds like he says "hround" but the G is still there subtly.

    • @NickThomasVocals
      @NickThomasVocals 5 лет назад

      Allways thought this

    • @HaydenKink
      @HaydenKink 5 лет назад +4

      That's the only thing I don't like about his vocals. He can be extremely nasaly at times and also live he can be way off key.

    • @seymourass5295
      @seymourass5295 5 лет назад +3

      It's his vocal technique. Him and I sing in the same register. He uses a unique style to form words around his vibrato its definitely home grown

    • @seymourass5295
      @seymourass5295 5 лет назад +4

      He gets away with mispronouncing words because he rips lol

  • @Char-rr1qw
    @Char-rr1qw 5 лет назад +18

    Yall are surprised at the vocal talent thats literally everywhere in pop and R&B. But you won't admit it BeCaUse ThAt IsNt ReAl MuSic.

  • @konijnensmaak
    @konijnensmaak 5 лет назад +6

    Ooh that fade out at the end though

  • @Potatodrumcrow
    @Potatodrumcrow 3 года назад

    Are you selling beats?? His r&b album is fire.

  • @tylersyphertt3033
    @tylersyphertt3033 5 лет назад

    My boi Eyal got some drip

  • @Tatt2dmoon
    @Tatt2dmoon 5 лет назад +16

    Jonny was Slaves.

    • @user-yi8uq3jb6p
      @user-yi8uq3jb6p 4 года назад +1

      Monica Weinle was in slaves*

    • @Tatt2dmoon
      @Tatt2dmoon 4 года назад +2

      @@user-yi8uq3jb6p no, I meant what I typed.

  • @emanuelstude4912
    @emanuelstude4912 4 года назад +1

    Well yeah chances is something Jonny needs a lot of

  • @DOUGLASaraujosoares
    @DOUGLASaraujosoares 5 лет назад

    What plugin do you use in first slot on signal chain?

  • @octopousmusic9296
    @octopousmusic9296 5 лет назад +1

    0:14 did he say date ? or day ? shit

  • @np466
    @np466 Год назад

    Just put a sample on it, right?

  • @lubbenz
    @lubbenz 5 лет назад +25

    hahaha gotta love the people screaming autotune who apparently don‘t know what this dude is capable of, check out some live vids.

    • @Laihoistheman
      @Laihoistheman 5 лет назад +4

      ive seen plenty of live slaves videos AND i saw them live earlier this year, he was underwhelming at best.

    • @tyken144
      @tyken144 5 лет назад +4

      @@Laihoistheman ???????? Dogg hahaha well like any artist he has his nights where he's off but try some live videos of him with dgd or emerosa and u have to watch alot of the slaves performances to find the absolute gems

    • @Laihoistheman
      @Laihoistheman 5 лет назад +1

      @@tyken144 fair enough, it was just the like dozen videos I saw plus seeing them live.

  • @cizlol
    @cizlol 4 года назад

    "he almost de-essed himself" god tier diss

  • @robbie5984
    @robbie5984 3 года назад

    Simp Ladies Out Here Strong. Leeettssss 👏 Gooooooooo 👏

  • @joshuabarfieldmusic
    @joshuabarfieldmusic 5 лет назад

    Meat and Cheese spread adds more glue to the whole mix...

  • @Kreacher97
    @Kreacher97 3 года назад

    Can anyone tell me what program he is using?

  • @snapascrew
    @snapascrew 5 лет назад +5

    What if I told you your quarter note delay was an eighth and not a quarter haha

  • @pattygq
    @pattygq Год назад

    9:40 That wurble shouldn't be there. When he says, "never leave". Super pronounced on the word, "leave". It's like an auto tune wurble. It's present before he begins this video. You can here this at 3:09 - 3:10.

  • @daboi9172
    @daboi9172 5 лет назад +4

    Real talk in a video about mixing audio why is his voice so much louder than the singer's

  • @windhambass
    @windhambass 5 лет назад +1

    Erik Ron?? He's got two first names.....

  • @horrortoy1625
    @horrortoy1625 3 года назад

    👀

  • @tableauxofficial7895
    @tableauxofficial7895 5 лет назад +7

    Sadly his voice isnt stronger than his addiction. How many bands kicked him out now?

  • @Frozirra
    @Frozirra 3 года назад +2

    Daily reminder that Jonny Craig did nothing wrong

    • @spontaneousbootay
      @spontaneousbootay Год назад

      Well, he did, but he apologized and tried to make things right with everyone that he could.

  • @vicesquadpunk
    @vicesquadpunk 5 лет назад +10

    Can you please explain why the lead vocal sounds autotuned? I appreciate wanting passion and intimacy but taking away the humanity from performance destroys that intent. Steve Perry had this in spades and had so much power and feel ✌🏻 x

    • @makrogiannisantonis1602
      @makrogiannisantonis1602 5 лет назад +4

      Yeah,I think autotune here is too obvious, epsecially at the end of the phrases.it sounds like a fake vibrato

    • @TheConvectuoso
      @TheConvectuoso 5 лет назад +13

      It’s a classic side effect on breaths when using melodyne or auto tune.
      But bear in mind almost everything you listen to these days has some of tuning.
      People only call auto tune out when they hear the side effects. And in the full mix it will never be as noticeable as in solo like it is now.
      FWIW I don’t like those side effects on the breaths

    • @dadmonster1019
      @dadmonster1019 5 лет назад +2

      Antiquated opinion. Everything gets worked on.

    • @JacobraRecords
      @JacobraRecords 5 лет назад

      Because it's modern pop-ish music. That's why.

    • @solarnewborn
      @solarnewborn 5 лет назад +4

      I'm amazed how people are still surprised that they pitch correct vocalists in the studio when it's been an industry standard for almost 2 decades. The dude's a great singer, pitch correction or not. Tho I'd personally go for a slower, more natural retune speed.

  • @dounia4207
    @dounia4207 5 лет назад

    "i like to squash vocals"
    we stan.

  • @maxawitt
    @maxawitt 5 лет назад +8

    Is it just me or is this vocal wayyy too compressed. You compressed it on the way in and then 10db in pro tools? The engineer even thought the vocal sounded like it had a blanket over it. That’s because it’s squashed and has no dynamics. Reverb is for placing something in the mix not to make words in the song more audible/understandable. That’s what the an EQ boost at 2.5k is for and saturation.

  • @DeathShark00
    @DeathShark00 5 лет назад +4

    ive never listened to johnny outside of DGD and his solo stuff.. first time hearing him in slaves. i love johnny but ima have to pass on looking into slaves..that autotune kills it for me.. i know hes capable of not needing it.

    • @barelyshiftin
      @barelyshiftin 5 лет назад +3

      Did you ever listen to Emarosa when he was in it? They made some amazing music when he was with them. I think my favorite of him is still DGD though, and I really like DGD now with Tilian. But you definitely should give Emarosa, his solo stuff, and Slaves a chance.

    • @ohjesusitsnathan5649
      @ohjesusitsnathan5649 5 лет назад +1

      I prefer his work with emarosa, his DGD stuff comes at a close 2nd for me tho

    • @ParabolH
      @ParabolH 4 года назад

      Emarosa Relativity album is killer

    • @willkearney5716
      @willkearney5716 3 года назад +3

      Literally every band uses autotune- its called Melodyne and is mostly used to touch up a voice, not to change pitch in a drastic way

    • @GetxFreaky
      @GetxFreaky 3 года назад

      i dont think thats autotune my guy. its probably the jaw movement he has when doing vocal runs which is really the only time you hear what youre probably mistaking for autotune.

  • @fackya2267
    @fackya2267 5 лет назад +2

    i dont like this guy mixes honestly

  • @zarinkai2927
    @zarinkai2927 5 лет назад +2

    Stopped liking Johnny the moment he left DGD.

    • @kameron2136
      @kameron2136 5 лет назад +10

      Missing out on the Emarosa Release then, and Isles and Glaciers

    • @michaelll
      @michaelll 5 лет назад +2

      Doesn't Emarosa have a different singer now? Jonny isn't singing for them right?

    • @mexichicana
      @mexichicana 5 лет назад +1

      Michael c yeah emarosa’s singer is now Bradley Walden!

    • @michaelll
      @michaelll 5 лет назад

      @@mexichicana I haven't listened to their new stuff but I knew johnny stopped singing for them awhile ago