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  • @moresnqp
    @moresnqp 2 года назад +24

    the best thing i did for my music is not upgrade past ableton lite. it gives you every DAW capability, but with no good synths, and drums that need tweaking.
    it also limits you to 8 tracks.
    i figured out the best combinations of distortion and compression to make drum hits count, i downloaded Helm and learnt how to make thick synths and basses. and it made me fall in love with sampling the way oldschool hiphop producers did.

    • @nunnukanunnukalailailai1767
      @nunnukanunnukalailailai1767 2 года назад

      Thank you for this idea. I've wanted to do this sort of thing for a while now but I have bad self discipline lol. I'll switch my fl studio for ableton lite and try limiting myself that way

    • @Kacey_Jaymes
      @Kacey_Jaymes 2 года назад

      I mean, regardless of DAW, I rarely use stock but good on you. I personally prefer Vital to Helm, since its open-source feature means that it has a far more active community and
      Ironically tends to be more "ahead of the curve" than its paywalled cousin due to the aforementioned "open-sourceability" (it's the same maker, though).
      I also did go the full studio route for Ableton, myself, as I wanted my DAW to at least be able to cover the same amount of tracks as my controllers' layouts have, ROFL.
      Bottom line, I guess, is that if it improves your workflow and personal experience when making music, then that's all that matters. That's 1000% why I ever make any studio purchase, personally. ^_^

  • @MilesKvndra
    @MilesKvndra 2 года назад +39

    So feeling this. Stepping back from DAWs and focusing just on 1 to a max of 3 pieces of gear totally leveled up my creativity and my sound. Oh and I love the comparison to your band! :)

    • @kiillabytez
      @kiillabytez 15 дней назад

      Plus your songs have a more cohesive feel to them right?

  • @ktreier
    @ktreier 2 года назад +4

    Some of my favorite electronic music from the late 70’s and early 80’s is because it’s clear that there were track limits.

  • @nickpmusic
    @nickpmusic 2 года назад +12

    I've been trying to cut back on my track count creating electronic music having 50 odd midi/audio tracks with effect plugins galore. Recently I have been changing direction and have been writing for a mate of mine who has band and wanted some original pop/rock songs to go out gigging and not play covers. The first few songs I produced I threw the kitchen sink at with loads of horns, strings, choirs etc and the band liked it but difficult to play live. Ok I'm waffling on - my point is I listened to a track recently by a 70's band (Free) "Alright Now" Drums, Bass, guitar and vocal. That's all 4 instruments including vocal. Recorded, and mixed brilliantly. This song is what I am now trying to achieve - a gold standard. Concentrate on those elements, write a good song, I need to know there is the drummer, bass player, guitar player, keyboard player and the singer. Thats all I don't need 3 bass parts and 8 sampled chopped up guitar loops just the 4 instuments.

  • @smalltownglobalproductions
    @smalltownglobalproductions 11 месяцев назад +1

    I used an 8-track digital recorder but before that I played and recorded with my college professor who had a 32-track teac reel recorder. I now have my own digital media production company. Digital makes it much easier, especially if you don't have your own band at a moment's notice, but it needs to emulate real music and instruments as much as possible. And remember not to over process it!!

  • @abdur1914
    @abdur1914 10 месяцев назад

    Exactly how I think when producing, your explanation was spot on. 👍

  • @Gopher86
    @Gopher86 Год назад +1

    One of the best and honest videos I've seen about how to approach creating a track from scratch. Here's a little annecdote: I've co-mixed music for a young band that eventually made it into the Billboard charts in Europe back in 2013. My mentor and mastermind who received their projects for mixing sat next to me and eventually said: "What is this? There's hundreds of tracks that all add a little synth here, a little sound effect there, another sweeping sound, another bass line and so on. We don't need this!" So he just started either merging entire "branches" of synths and/or delete quite some. The band responded with: "Wow. We don't know what you did, but it all sounds soo much more clean now."

  • @fluidskymusic
    @fluidskymusic Год назад

    Best advice I’ve heard to help me distill down to the bare essentials of what makes a great song!

  • @andrexaviermusic
    @andrexaviermusic Год назад

    seriously some of the most sound advice I've heard lately (no pun intended)

  • @ThinkerThunker
    @ThinkerThunker 2 года назад +2

    "What would your ""band" look like on stage is a valid question. Thanks for reminding us that only FOUR people, or three, or TWO can make more than enough sounds to qualify as music. It worked for the Beatles and Led Zeppelin.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад

      So many to name. The Police, The White Stripes, The Living End, Nirvana, MUSE, Green Day…

    • @Teddy0567
      @Teddy0567 2 года назад

      the Doors!!

  • @mgmthegrand
    @mgmthegrand Год назад

    Nice! Thank you for this. Sometimes you just need to hear someone else say it before it hits home.

  • @touchthatdial
    @touchthatdial 2 года назад +5

    Bang on. My rule is maximum 8 elements/instruments which as a concept neatly maps across to the 8 channels that my Ableton Push 2 can display on a single view without having to scroll across to the right to see channels 9-16. If I can’t fit everything playing at once into a single 8-channel view on Push then I know the track is too busy. Same as when I started out in bands, first with 4 tracks then with 8 tracks (ADAT) which forced us to plan ahead and think carefully about what to include and what to drop. Some of the best music I ever recorded was on ADAT (and yeah I know about bounces and all that, but often we found that if we bounced loads of stuff the mix ended up sounding like shit).

  • @Tommy_GG
    @Tommy_GG 2 года назад +4

    This is so true. I work in opera house orchestra (more than 10 years) and played at bigband as i was young and recently when i started producing i was so happy with this freedom that my projects ends up with 40 tracks :/ now i know that i have to go back to reality. Even at symphonic orchestra that looks big and crazy - there are groups that plays at unison for bigger louder sound, but its "same track". We have to keep this in mind :) Thank You mredrollo - its wise tip and easy to forget :)

    • @ricardojmestre
      @ricardojmestre Год назад +1

      Great great video! 4 months without coffee here, it's doable. And you touched on a great point.

    • @Tommy_GG
      @Tommy_GG Год назад

      @@ricardojmestre thanks! Hardest part behind You :)

  • @Lous_taunau
    @Lous_taunau 2 года назад

    your channel is pure gold.

  • @RokSivante
    @RokSivante 2 года назад +5

    Man, if I only could’ve truly realized and IMPLEMENTED this wisdom a decade ago. Lol.
    I’ve definitely leaned towards “more” going on in ALOT of my music… continually realizing WHY so many preach the value of LESS/SIMPLICITY (yet still often veering back into habit of overclutter). Even as slowly making progress in this regard, I often find a large chunk of my work on any project chipping away at what’s been first laid down - clearing space, chopping out bits of loops, subtractive EQing, cleaning up things as much as possible… all while developing an increasing appreciation the type of refinement and detail that can only really shine through when a work is stripped down to its essentials.
    Been such a long journey experimenting to find the merit to these basics. Those who skip the learning curve and just start out with that simplicity are definitely on the right track. Lol. ✨

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад +2

      We often will try to over compensate for a weak idea. That's mostly why I believe we keep adding more shit to our music that doesn't need to be there. There is a beautiful thing in simplicity.

    • @RokSivante
      @RokSivante 2 года назад

      @@mredrollo Interesting observation:
      My first reaction to reading this was a bit of defensiveness, as per the projection/assumption that I may have been “overcompensating for a weak idea” - whereas that didn’t feel to fit, and I’ve just more gotten into the habit of testing out a lot of different stuff that quickly ended up in excess and requiring serious cutbacks…
      Yet upon pausing to reflect and contemplate, there was sort of the realization: it’s not so much that in such cases where this has happened, it hasn’t been so much a “weak idea” as much as perhaps - to be honest with myself - there’s actually been NO CLEAR “idea” (which from a different vantage point COULD be considered as “weak”)…
      Referencing back to another comment on other video about getting to absorbed I’m the technicalities of production and losing the contact/connection with the core essence of the SONG - which essentially IS the idea…
      Perhaps I’d never viewed the “excess” as any sort of “overcompensation,” simply viewing the process of experimentation without boundaries as that - yet blind to THE ABSENCE OF a foundational “idea” to build upon - simply slapping building blocks together with no initial “vision” or “idea” in mind, throwing one thing after another into the mix blindly without the first, fundamental starting point of a CONCEPT/IDEA to extract out into a SONG.
      Yet here, with such a simple comment shining light onto such a basic principle… feeling somewhere between dumbfoundedly stupid and hilariously amused at how easily such a perspective illuminates a key blind spot I’ve tended to tiptoe around with that tendency towards technicalities rather than the heart & soul of a song idea.
      What a trip, man. 😹⭐️🙏
      On a total side note: how the hell do you pronounce your name? 🤣
      I’ve been stumped as watchIng your videos and my mind has been glitching out… is it like “mr-ed-rollo?” “M-red-ollo?” “Mre-drollo?” I honestly have no idea and am curious (both exactly how to break it down and if any meaning behind it)…

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад +2

      @@RokSivante Hahahaa, sorry for triggering the defence system. It was just a generalisation. And what I've heard in many beginner/intermediate music makers over the yers. Even some remixes that I've done. I pick apart all the elements trying to figure out what on earth the essence of the tune is! % pad sounds, 4 different leads, man, it's confusing. That's what i mean by overcompensation.
      Oh and it's Mr. Ed Rollo. My name is Edward Rollo 😉

    • @angurishudesu
      @angurishudesu 2 года назад

      ​@@mredrollo OH SHIT ITS MR. ED? IVE BEEN PRONOUNCING IT AS 'MRED' LIKE 'BREAD' THIS ENTIRE TIME XDDD

  • @VividDrkness
    @VividDrkness Год назад

    I love the way you explained everything in this video. I came across by mistake but am now a follower. Cheers.

  • @de-b1221
    @de-b1221 2 года назад +6

    I've always found that when it comes to music:
    Less is more and has a bigger impact.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад +1

      It really does!

    • @WarrenPostma
      @WarrenPostma 2 года назад +1

      There certainly is a principle of diminishing returns. For me recently, a keys and vocal arrangment really popped when I add a string pad, but then I can't stop myself and I add a damn seashore seagull sound effect, and ruin it. When I get to this point I repeat my mantra. Well we have now achieved maximum cheese. Let's back that down a little, shall we?

    • @vooveks
      @vooveks 2 года назад +1

      I think it’s good to ask ‘what is this sound _doing?_ If the answer is ‘don’t know’ or ‘not sure’, then change or get rid of it.

    • @de-b1221
      @de-b1221 2 года назад

      @@vooveks sometimes when it comes to using certain sounds, it's knowing where to put that sound in the mix itself. There's always a reason for that sound and sometimes when you ask yourself the question:
      What's this sound doing?
      It might just mean that you need to look more into your subconscious to find the reason.
      I once created a track where I used the sound of static, and then gradually faded in a single sustained note on a violin. The reason for it was because I wanted to create the sense of fear, confusion.
      I then detuned the string into the most distorted sound and then used it for the main section of the track.

  • @garethbellamy2703
    @garethbellamy2703 2 года назад +2

    Said by others below, need reminding of this always. In space no one should scream.thank you ed

  • @AM-pw9nd
    @AM-pw9nd 2 года назад +2

    So true, totally with you!

  • @isweartofuckinggod
    @isweartofuckinggod 2 года назад

    Thanks Mr. E Dr. Ollo!

  • @Astroboytoy
    @Astroboytoy 2 года назад

    This is so TRUE.......

  • @stephanieb5120
    @stephanieb5120 2 года назад +1

    Less really is more sometimes! I just started getting into music making and I just completed my first track... by sampling audio of my dogs barking/howling. There were only 3 or 4 "notes" from them and I had to get creative with the melody I was making with it, and since the howl point was to show off that melody, I had to make sure there weren't too many other elements at play otherwise the whole point of the track would be lost. It was very, very fun!
    Also thank you for your courses in general. I started the first one this week and the bit about how to experiment with midis really helped. I have a background with the viola, so I feel like I have a good ear for harmonizing (and sometimes beats) with that but melody can be a bit tricky to wrap my head around, so seeing how much you can do with midis to kind of thing out has already been really helpful.
    ETA: btw, with the "what about orchestra" comparisons... I get that, because I've been in many. But there are quite a few instruments (like the aforementioned viola) that are there to add interest and harmony to the melody but also we kind of have to be invisible in a way. Also it's very rare for every instrument to be going at once. Ravel's Bolero might be a good example of what I mean. It basically yeets the melody from instrument to instrument, and when they aren't going they're often silent. And then there's the viola, plucking away at the same few notes for emphasis for the entire song lol

  • @greggiorgio1846
    @greggiorgio1846 2 года назад

    Right on, I agree!

  • @jarcau_vegan
    @jarcau_vegan 2 года назад

    That's a great approach to try, thank you!!

  • @columsheehan3454
    @columsheehan3454 2 года назад

    Great advice, really liking your videos man. Good common sense amongst a lot of noise on RUclips !

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад +1

      I appreciate that!

  • @Skanoh
    @Skanoh 2 года назад

    Glad I watched this video! Thank you for sharing your insight on the topic:)

  • @markorendas1423
    @markorendas1423 2 года назад

    I USED A REEL TO REEL A MICROPHONE A GTR AND A TAPE DECK. (NO AMP ) AND GOT FX OUT OF THE REEL BY FEEDING THE RCA OUT TO INPUT IN REVERSE (L TO R OUT TO R TO L IN) FOR DELAY OR REVERB OR SUCH. PLUG THE GTR INTO THE REEL . USED TO RECORD SOUNDS OF MACHINES AT WORK OR ODD CONVERSATION. TO ME A FOSTEX OR TASCAM 4TRACK TAPE RECORDER WAS SOMETHING BEYOND MY CAPACITY. NOW IVE FAST FOWARD 35 YEARS AND HAVE A DECENT MODERN SETUP. BUT TO AN EXTENT THERES TOO MANY POSSIBLE WAYS TO MAKE MUSIC. THAT AND A BIT OVERWHELMING. STILL CHALLENGING THOUGH.

  • @dragon-id5uj
    @dragon-id5uj 2 года назад

    one of my instruments as a band member is a sampling drum machine tho; as a band member I can take the role of so many tracks haha! cheat code. but the advice still stands regardless lol.

  • @kalnzb
    @kalnzb 2 года назад

    Very good point, thanks!

  • @jarcau_vegan
    @jarcau_vegan 2 года назад

    3:04 - «As a drama, I was always positioned at the back of the stage».
    ~ Recontextualized

  • @djfwbmusic
    @djfwbmusic Год назад

    Needed to hear this 🙏🏼

  • @vferraz88
    @vferraz88 2 года назад

    the main question I have about this video, is why / how the hell are you two days without coffee. Thats amazing. Thanks for the video man!

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад

      Hahaha it wasn’t something I’d do on purpose. My video about mens health might help explain though 🙂

  • @lsa1974
    @lsa1974 Год назад

    Waouwww thanx for this kind reminder , very helpfull :=)))

  • @PeteBidwell
    @PeteBidwell Год назад

    Aweome, thank you!

  • @AutPen38
    @AutPen38 2 года назад

    I completely agree with the thrust of your argument and have long believed that any sort of pop/dance music should have a limited number of main elements. We can use our DAWs to add ear candy and FX/transitions on multiple tracks, but where we once would have had bass, lead guitar, rhythm guitar (or keys), drums, and vocals, today we've basically just replaced guitars with "equivalent" synths. So if I'm making a dance track today, it's still gonna consist of bass, leads, chords/pads, drums, and vocals. It's just that the instruments will be synths or samples instead of guitars or pianos or acoustic drums. If I ever catch myself thinking "I need another bassline or some more lead lines", it's usually a sign that my original bassline or lead melody just isn't very good. Adding more on top will make it worse not better, when I should just improve what I've already got, or scrap it and start afresh. You can't save a bad song by adding another instrument. You have to remove whatever's making the song bad!

  • @bazmastah
    @bazmastah 2 года назад +1

    Needed to hear this

  • @x.Ton.y
    @x.Ton.y 2 года назад

    Thank you!

  • @edgi55
    @edgi55 2 года назад

    I'm an amateur musician and this video taught me so much as I can never decide when to stop adding elements and what you say makes perfect sense. Thanks so much

  • @mukeshpathak7302
    @mukeshpathak7302 2 года назад +1

    I'm glad I found your channel. Binge watching videos 🔥 good content bro 💯

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад

      Thanks buddy. Just here as a guide!

  • @Lous_taunau
    @Lous_taunau 2 года назад

    ¡Gracias!

  • @smalltownglobalproductions
    @smalltownglobalproductions 11 месяцев назад

    I do a number of artistic things and sometimes I need to stop myself and say it's fine the way it is don't add any more or it will no longer be art.😅

  • @martinthomasemo6211
    @martinthomasemo6211 2 года назад +1

    Great video, love the insight into your history and how to apply those principals now!

  • @daynemin
    @daynemin 2 года назад

    Your channels like cool crisp fresh air! Love your work!

  • @Rhekluse
    @Rhekluse 2 года назад

    When choosing sounds I try to remember that everything needs its own frequency, depth (front & back) and stereo space. So if there are too many elements fighting for the same spaces it will be much more difficult to mix and enjoy.

  • @farmersmith7057
    @farmersmith7057 2 года назад +1

    Minimizing the number of tracks also helps an amateur like me with mixing/mastering. The less you have, the less you need to worry about. How many times have I “crowded out” instruments in some muddy mix. As soon as the first flecks of mud appear, the song quality takes a nose dive. Less is almost always more (for me, at least).

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад +1

      It certainly helps. I used to “hide” tracks with low volume because I didn’t want to sacrifice getting rid of them. But it just crowded my music and left no room for anything to breathe.

  • @DubFreakuencies
    @DubFreakuencies 2 года назад

    Thanks, really eye opener…Sometimes we miss the obvious.

  • @paulmix3858
    @paulmix3858 2 года назад

    I was recording with my band our first vinyl single in a little studio in -72 with two 2-track Revox tape recorders. It was kind of obsolete technique even then but what the heck, we were young and creative as God himself.

  • @trapbeatproducer
    @trapbeatproducer 2 года назад

    I don't wanna say this but I love you for your videos man!
    I'm so glad I subscribed! I have simplified my creation process, using only three instruments (brass, lead, bell) in the last one 🔊
    I'll watch a few more because it's completely dead at work today. The last beat I made was done at work too 💻🎹🙈😂

  • @ernestomartinez5296
    @ernestomartinez5296 2 года назад

    Mredrollo we need longer videos 👨‍⚖️

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад +1

      I’d love to. But I’ll need quite a few more coffees before that’s a reality 😂

  • @mekosmowski
    @mekosmowski 2 года назад

    Thanks man! I'm going to see how a high register part sounds on an existing bass synth in my piece before diving into sound design for it.

  • @vincedulay5751
    @vincedulay5751 2 года назад

    Love the band analogy! Been in a band too, i understand how it felt too.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад +1

      It’s really helped my own music!

  • @tomgoodson345
    @tomgoodson345 2 года назад

    Very useful information as usual, and you are 100% on point. Give me about 30 seconds and I could easily find you a RUclips “tutorial” vid where a dude has 35 tracks playing in the bloated chorus alone. I’m guilty of getting a bit bloated myself and as a challenge to myself, my latest album “Machine Language” released in July has 8 songs and each one contains exactly 8 tracks, no more, no less. If you have trouble making hard choices, this technique isn’t for you, but if you want to find out what you’re really about, give it a shot.

  • @peadookie
    @peadookie 2 года назад

    100% how I think about both tracks and EQ. Only have 100% of a listener's attention to work with - would I rather have 20% devoted to a bass or 1% devoted to 20 basses.
    What's changed as I'm transitioning from being a funk rock bassist to being a producer is my understanding of 'instruments'. I love cinematic and classical music, and when I think of my tracks, I may have one track that's a polyphonic synth, but within that synth, there are many voices and possibly multiple timbres (e.g. the difference in sounds between a bass note and soprano note if I'm using key tracking on the filter). In essence, I have to be careful to either limit the number of tracks or limit the instrument. Duplication seems to be just fine - there's certainly more than a single violin in an orchestra - but orchestral sections are pretty limited. A couple of horns, a couple of rhythm instruments, a couple of woodwinds, and the strings.

  • @AboveTheTrees00
    @AboveTheTrees00 2 года назад +2

    my magic number is 6 to 8 ..7,8 is only when I feel it’s bit “too empty”

  • @ChrizzBeatz
    @ChrizzBeatz Год назад

    great vid man, subbed

  • @DonLuca27
    @DonLuca27 2 года назад

    I feel like your intro tune is the perfect example of the whole topic discussed in this video: you don't have to make everything sound massive, you need to give each instrument a purpose and let it have its own space to breathe.
    A bit offtopic but I remember reading/watching an interview with the sound designer and music composer of the first two Resident Evil videogames and he couldn't stress enough how much "silence" is important and is a part of the music, it's like silence *is* an instrument and you have to use it.

  • @peterkoval
    @peterkoval 2 года назад

    great shirt.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад

      Cats On Synthesisers in Space!

  • @peterkalyoncu6869
    @peterkalyoncu6869 2 года назад

    Amazing advice. Loved this.

  • @zameerpactyan
    @zameerpactyan 2 года назад

    I did like this video!

  • @kiillabytez
    @kiillabytez 15 дней назад

    Well, I need a sub bass, a lead bass a bass pad, oh, and an arpeggio bass, also, a rolling bass would be great too...,
    I need a drum kit, plus a percussion, AND SFX, and MORE COWBELL...
    Now, I need an acoustic guitar, a lead guitar, a fingerpicked guitar AND a 12-string on the chorus, plus this part could use a distorted Marshall JMP 900...
    Lead vocals, backup vocals, and harmony vocals...
    What do I do if my virtual stage is too small?
    😁

  • @currie4225
    @currie4225 2 года назад

    this was a super insightful video. Thankyou for giving me a new concept in the making of music

  • @TraxtasyMedia
    @TraxtasyMedia 2 года назад

    actually struggling in a song, with the organization of elements inside of it and I think this is a well approach, to imagine that I add a band members. So my song already has got a Hornplayer, A Synthplayer, a vocalist and a guitarplayer for now. I think I'll take that concept and work it out for myself :D

  • @micindir4213
    @micindir4213 2 года назад

    If you grow up from electronic music, there is inherent schizophrenia embedded into the genre. How much stuff is there? It is very nicely laid out by Stockhausen in London lectures (go find it on RUclips). It can be any rhythm/pitch or density/silence ratio you might desire. Eventually you'll have to adhere to some form of structure. I would suggest thinking of this electronic elements as of orchestral groups. You really cannot surpass that whole orchestra thing, but instead of getting colors out of acoustic instruments, you'll get them through electronic means. And layering within this context makes much sense, but also true to orchestral style of writing, there is always logic behind each section.

  • @kiko8u
    @kiko8u 2 года назад

    I needed to hear this. Thank you.

  • @Imetalman2000
    @Imetalman2000 2 года назад

    This was useful information. Im mainly a guitarist, so I’m really good at making licks and riffs, but I’ve always struggled with song arrangement. This technique should help me fight paralysis by analysis.

  • @eprohoda
    @eprohoda 2 года назад +1

    mrdrollo!super~ outstanding ! see you on my side~ :))

  • @XyNoST
    @XyNoST 2 года назад

    Nice topic ! I used to make music on oldschool trackers (still do) so I was stuck with a more modern (at that time) but kinda similar ways to deal with limitations as your early days dealing on the 4 tracks ! (Trackers are easily editable though lol)
    Not only having 50 tracks is just too much for nothing but you will also totally lose yourself when you will try looking for a specific track to edit it...even if you name all your tracks .

  • @CDMESD
    @CDMESD 2 года назад

    I always say this.

  • @MrBrownAlliance
    @MrBrownAlliance 2 года назад +3

    less is more folks, it's all in the production... Excellent stuff!

  • @MultigenreProducer
    @MultigenreProducer 2 года назад

    Gracias maestro!

  • @MrTom-Songwriter-Composer
    @MrTom-Songwriter-Composer 2 года назад

    I like your video and the topic as I've been doing something similar. I'm a songwriter/composer under BMI, Inc, I write and record instrumental commercially licensed music and sometimes music for retail sale. I also write in many genres.. But for electronic music I've started to limit my total tracks to 5. I also have been trying to limit myself to one monophonic synthesizer as well per musical work. Doing so has really pushed my creativity forward for writing original tracks. Have a great day/night.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад

      I love the simplicity!

  • @TheFlippyHouse
    @TheFlippyHouse 2 года назад

    First of all, good luck with the no coffee thing. That's tough.
    Also I very much enjoy your delivery of your message. You make such simple, obvious points that kinda sorta make me feel a little dumb, but that's my problem haha.
    This topic hit home with me. I've been a hermit bedroom guitar player the better part if the last 20 years. I recently decided I was good enough to record. So I went out and got a focusrite and ableton and all that good stuff. I have about 7 tracks on my first attempt at some electronic jam and ultimately I like it. It's not really the type of music I listen to but I'm getting good feedback. Point is, it was all done with the DAW and no actual instrument played by me. Unless you wanna count the midi keyboard, lol. I didn't feel like a musician, like I felt like i was before. I was a now creator and a producer. And it felt super weird. Now that I'm trying to record guitar and do stuff with that, I can absolutely see why more tracks does not equal better music. Thanks for the awesome video!

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад +1

      Appreciate it. Thanks for sharing.

  • @teamdarinkatrel1719
    @teamdarinkatrel1719 2 года назад

    Big Fact👍🏾

  • @SFDOOM
    @SFDOOM 2 года назад

    Love these tips man, keep it up ♥

  • @Walterriosss
    @Walterriosss 2 года назад

    thank you so much

  • @lundsweden
    @lundsweden 2 года назад +1

    Phil Spectre thought more equals better. I think Bruce Springsteen used this wall of sound method in his early tracks too. I like less elements personally, so that you can actually hear what is there!

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад +1

      Don't believe the hype!

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 2 года назад +1

      Mozart wrote for 96-piece orchestras and completely overlooked the fact that his music needed more cowbell.

  • @HOLLASOUNDS
    @HOLLASOUNDS 2 года назад +2

    Maby People should try make music with Abalten lite or MPC beats or a old vertion of a DAW without a thousand plugins.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад

      Definitely a good exercise!

  • @unfinishedmonkeyrecords
    @unfinishedmonkeyrecords 2 года назад

    really depends on the style of music you wanna make, as long as you use busses and groups it's fine to add hundreds of elements in contemporary music ;-)

  • @MOSMASTERING
    @MOSMASTERING Год назад

    What DAW are you using? I would kill to get the first 5 seconds of the song at the beginning in project format. HOW is that piano and kick/bass combo SOOOO Smooth sounding?
    I've been Cubase for 20 years.

  • @AlirezaRastgoo37
    @AlirezaRastgoo37 2 года назад

    I'm a new subscriber and just watched 2 or 3 of your videos.
    I think what you talk about in your videos is much much more important to newbs like me than the information storm that youtube brings and just makes us lose the path. I just wanted to thank you ♥️ give you some energy and ask some questions :)
    I'm a guitarist and don't have a sound interface (I'm that beginner) so I can't record my instrument. Can you please suggest a nice electric guitar vst? Also i have the guitar rig software.
    Then i will be happy if you tell the community the chord progression you used in your intro 😎🤘🏻🔥 ty

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад +1

      Welcome! I’m definitely the wrong person to ask for plug-in recommendations 😂 if you’re looking for some guidance though then perhaps check out my training Center: plus.mredrollo.com/

    • @AlirezaRastgoo37
      @AlirezaRastgoo37 2 года назад

      @@mredrollo Thank You!!

  • @davidpurple3698
    @davidpurple3698 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video. How many band members are there in a Techno band?

  • @daneasy1983
    @daneasy1983 2 года назад

    what about orchestras? sound amazing with many members?

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад

      How does one record an orchestra?

  • @cstoomey
    @cstoomey 2 года назад

    The only comment I have is that some producers compose orchestrally, and in an orchestra there are 17 violin players and multiple players. So it depends on the genre of music. But I agree if you do have multiple layers,tracks you should split notes up instead of going chordal. Agree that elements should be less. dont do 5 melodic elements at the same time. if you compose with more than 10 instruments develop motifs

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад

      This is certainly not the first time someone has brought up orchestras. But, If you look into recording an orchestra I think you’ll find many approaches can involve only using a few microphones.

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 2 года назад

      The thing about orchestras is that while there might be 96 or more instruments, they rarely play all at once and certainly don't have a separate melody line for each one. Violins, for example, will be grouped together for the purposes of polyphony, in much the same way that a synth can have unison or chorus applied to sweeten/thicken the sound. Orchestral pieces would sound awful if every violinist or cellist was provided with a unique (and competing) manuscript.
      That's not to say orchestral music can't be complex, with many interweaving counter-melodies and harmonies, because it can... but it's really hard to write that stuff! For most of us, limiting the number of parts is beneficial. It's usually what the audience wants too. Complicated music is "difficult" music. I used to find live funk bands quite tiresome because there's just too much going on. Most of my favourite (pop) bands are duos, or 3-5 piece bands. They recorded massive hits with 16 or 24 tracks, or (with respect to electronic dance music) even fewer.

  • @WarrenPostma
    @WarrenPostma 2 года назад +1

    You need more air and space in your mix, and more pauses, more build and more fade out. For the kind of music I make, there has to be a beginning, a middle, and an end, and it has to neither be boring, or busy. When that "too many notes" feeling hits me, the whole piece turns to garbage. For me, the center of a song is always vocals and lyrics and everything else has to be in service of that. For instrumental electronic music, I think, many creators want to create a vibe, a trance like state, that you live in for a while. Define what is the central thing for you and then protect that, by not adding excrescences. I personally don't like a lot of ornamentation in music. Classical/baroque music and Jazz often feel like "too many spiraling endless pointless notes" to me, and on the other end of the spectrum, EDM feels boring to me, because it's intentionally repetitive and has only subtle variation. While I don't like Jazz much and I don't like EDM, but I force myself to listen and learn, and maybe even see if there are elements of it that I can appreciate and borrow. Good artists borrow, great artists steal. I am not a great artist, I suck, but I'm going to imitate the greats and suck until I don't. I like the classical way of building and using both repetition and surprise, as a compositional tool. I like the way that EDM artists really understand how repetition legitimizes. EDM artists are twiddling with your brain state by repeating things insistently. This creates an effect. All these effects have a usefulness. I say "I don't like Jazz" but I do love vocal jazz blues artists like Mose Allison, and Louis Armstrong. I don't like MOST EDM but I do love electronic minimal downtempo ambient chill stuff.

  • @chromewellchromewell5787
    @chromewellchromewell5787 2 года назад

    Shit! this is so true. Thanks

  • @studiospiraluniverse
    @studiospiraluniverse 2 года назад

    I enjoy your videos -> subscribed. Anyway I find this »max x-number of tracks discussion« a bit strange. Bands can be huge aswell and so are orchestras. Speaking of orchestras - there are classical pieces where the guy on the timpanis plays one drumrole in a very long piece. Imho the art is to avoid playing too many things at the same moment in time. Then 16 or more tracks can be ok. I like the japanese concept of Ma, where emptiness plays the role of leaving space for the essential. Finally it brought me to a »subtraktive method« - meaning I often let some drummachine or sequencer play the whole piece and later cut out big chunks.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад +1

      Great perspective. It’s just an idea to have people not feel like they need to keep adding more stuff. A curse many fall under. I agree with everything you are saying

    • @studiospiraluniverse
      @studiospiraluniverse 2 года назад

      @@mredrollo Yes, esp the »pluginitis« you mentioned. Basically that’s the same as Gas in software….the illusion that you can buy creativity.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад +1

      @@studiospiraluniverse ohhh mate “buying creativity” I love that! I’m gonna use that somewhere I’m sure if it!

  • @nakiradams
    @nakiradams 2 года назад

    subscribed

  • @Citizen5000
    @Citizen5000 Год назад

    looks at orchestra, looks back at screen

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Год назад

      And how does one record an orchestra class?

  • @keithlane4705
    @keithlane4705 Год назад

    You didn't have 17 Serum players ... jean michel jarre "Hold my beer"

  • @Bana_na_TV
    @Bana_na_TV 2 года назад

    My band is such a crazy shit😂🤦‍♀️

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад

      hahaha, no doubt. Mine used to be too!

  • @TachyBunker
    @TachyBunker 2 года назад +2

    I actually think quite the opposite. On my latest project (which is almost finished now), I have at least ~115 different instruments, which don't muddy the mix but make it thick like I want it. The problem is not that beginners put too much tracks, it's because they don't really know what layers to add and how to add even more layers without making the mix sound like shit. Sure it requires a lot more work, mixing, scoring, I won't be able to play everything live, and sure a lot of them are not necessary to a degree. But I think it's great music, as the producer I can hear the audio iceberg (hearing other producers like Carpenter Brut doing walls of instruments inspired me on this), and I think every little element is what gives the song my own characteristic.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing!

  • @AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69
    @AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69 2 года назад

    Drummers becoming producers isn't arbitrary. There's a reason why and it's connected to why the best bands with the best music the drummer has a heavy job in the creative process. You know has a say in the song writing process.

  • @electropunkzero
    @electropunkzero 2 года назад

    I often think about three-man bands and how just three instruments is plenty

  • @Drozas91
    @Drozas91 Год назад

    Hey dude where did you get that t shirt?

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Год назад

      Google: Cats on Synthesisers in Space 😉

    • @Drozas91
      @Drozas91 Год назад

      @@mredrollo do you know the store? Can't find this exact model

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  Год назад +1

      @@Drozas91 it’s a store on Etsy :)

  • @onderwaterboot
    @onderwaterboot 2 года назад

    intro song name???

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад

      mredrollo - Appraisal spoti.fi/3xhoWKi

  • @biggrime
    @biggrime 2 года назад +2

    Less is more. Jay-z Dust your shoulder off used 4 sounds

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад

      Nice!

    • @p.ii.5104
      @p.ii.5104 2 года назад +1

      Timbaland could always do that, pick a few crazy weird sound's and make it interesting with an odd rhythm or something. Neptune's were pretty similar too

    • @biggrime
      @biggrime 2 года назад

      @@p.ii.5104 facts

  • @gnuwaves743
    @gnuwaves743 2 года назад

    You look so much younger with no moustache.

  • @Pawl4k
    @Pawl4k 2 года назад +1

    17 serum LMAO

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад

      It's not even a joke.

  • @markorendas1423
    @markorendas1423 2 года назад

    PS ; I USUALLY TYPE IN ALL CAPS. FOLKS ALL WIERDED OUT. IM TRYING to stop..

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад

      I thought you might have had special access needs. No judgement here mate. Thanks for sharing!

  • @LoVeAmBiEnT
    @LoVeAmBiEnT 2 года назад

    Why is it that every single video that seems like you’re calling out every mistake I’ve made which is awesome so yeah for sure at one point the worst tracks I’ve ever made were so busy they were always breaking down and coming back in and so many things going on I listen to it now I’m just like oh my God. So busy.

    • @mredrollo
      @mredrollo  2 года назад

      hahaha most of my videos are experiences from my own life, or things that I've seen in the people around me.