A superb interpretation. This is a 17th century piece of programmatic music, intended to portray the tension, confusion, noise and uneasy aftermath of war, hence its title. The strange dissonances and unconventional use of the bows are all part of it, some of the many devices which made Biber an original and creative composer.
Was inspired to look this piece up after hearing about it on BBC Radio 3 Musical Question Time. What an interesting piece and this ensemble performs it with a lot of fire!
Extraordinaire. Je viens de découvrir à l'image ce chef. Je connaissais plusieurs de ses enregistrements que je possède. Il m'a fait penser par son allant aux Giardino Armonico à ses dévuts sur scène. sur scène. C'est Bravo.... sinon Bravissimo Alain
Soberbios !! Literalmente obnubilante ejecución . Directo de Bohemia a la inmortalidad . Biber y Spinosi junto al Ensemble Matheus se lucen en esta obra . Bravisimo !! 👏
It's partially linear counterpoint, which can sacrifice harmony for independence of lines. The section is titled Gesellschaft von allerley Humor (“The dissolute society of all sorts”), and you can hear it; it's 8 different folk tunes stacked on top of each other, but it manages to stay relatively clean. If that's not masterful use of counterpoint (and amazingly prescient composing), I don't know what is.
Von Biber pochází z Čech, tak píšu česky - před nedávnem jsem viděl vystoupení jednoho ansámblu ze San Marina, který hrál s podobnou vervou renesanční repertoár. Klobouk dolů, tato interpretace mě strašně baví, máte krásný zvuk, jste dokonale sehraní a budu se pídit po dalších Vašich nahrávkách. A budu-li mít štěstí, třeba Vás uvidím i na pódiu. Biberova skladba je ovšem rovněž skvělá. Dobrá volba. Zdravím z Beskyd!
WOOOW! Great performance, thanks a lot for posting it, I love this version, full of life! Like it all ( 1:50 great ) and find specially touching the slow episodes ( like 5:24 ) THANKS AGAIN! =)
“You never see food as a testament to death: -- Excellent! However, I make the comparison simple for the moment. And while I also made the point of being able to modify food, I clearly like certain productions of specific music pieces by specific performers over the same piece done by another performer or even the same performer in a different setting (i.e., studio production versus live).
@kaikobird i think the opposite, by the way (of course if you didn't know it) in baroque music like this, the composer ask for certain this like stom or blow with archs, moreover, there's one indication 'con legno', it means blow with arch, and just one last thing...it seems you don't have a musical sense, because if you have, this like this give more character, rythm & movement to this kind of music - -'
Modern visual art is indeed hard to understand since abstract visuals can be puzzling, but sound we can recognize immediately: from the military snare/fife duo in this piece (the section where the bass puts the paper under the string) to absolute horror (Penderecki's "Threnody to the Victims of Hiroshima"). But then again, I love Schoenberg, Bartok, and Prokofiev, so I am an outlier in the current times' taste of music. Plus, I'm a bit of a composer/arranger myself.
As a wine professional, I know that taste is subjective, yet can be trained. While you think it is “pretty damn cool,” suffice it to say that I don’t like that sound. I find it harsh; but unlike a tannic wine, I cannot temper the bite by decanting, aging or pairing it with a big rib-eye. This is neither intended as an insult to those who do like this sound nor those who produce it.
As a wine teacher, I have 3 performances of one of Bach’s Lute Suites. John Williams, Julian Bream and Ana Vidovic. 8-12 seconds of an easily identified melody (starting at 1:30, here: /watch?v=7j8jExFEf4s) to demonstrate how different “one” thing can be. In my case, one grape variety grown in the same vineyard in the same vintage versus one set of note played on the same instrument in roughly the same atmosphere.
Just last night I was lamenting the abuse (regardless of the original artist’s blessing) of a great (modern) piece from the 1980s (rock/punk/ska) and incorporating it into a different genre (hip hop). UGH! Or even Kid Rock’s mélange that includes “Sweet Home Alabama.” On the other hand, Billy Joel did not spit on Beethoven’s Pathetic with “This Night.” I fondly recall dating a classical pianist who asked me what I’d like to hear her play: “…that Billy Joel song,” I derped!
You're trying to tangent off to taste of which performance is preferred. I'm talking about composition. This is baroque experimental music (rare for its time); from col legno to polytonality, everything screams experimental. Saying you don't like it because it sounds harsh is like saying you don't like horror movies because they're scary. You just can't dislike a work of art for being what it is intended to be.
Interesting you bring up food (wine, but I'm gonna expand that to food). Food art is a category where pleasure triumphs all: you want shit to taste good. You never see food as a testament to death (Schubert's String Quartet No. 14) or as a depiction of a drunk Scottish wedding (Peter Maxwell Davies' "Orkney Wedding, with Sunrise"). Food is a very limited medium of art; it is necessary for humans to eat to survive, and IMO our tongues have grown hypersensitive to sense poison, filth, etc.
I’m not being contentious, just discussing. It’s all a matter of personal preference. I can dislike anything I want for any reason I want. My personal likes and dislikes are my own and do not define anything except for me. If one likes music that, for my ears, clashes with itself then that is fine for them. I am certainly no authority on music. I keep a beat like a politician keeps a promise.
And music is perhaps the least concrete of all medium, but also perhaps the most concrete: you never hear western harmony in nature (it is very abstract in this regard) but melodically composers always imitate the real world in one way or another. The "dissolute society" section imitates what is basically a drunken soldiers' party, and it succeeds in doing so. As a food professional you're forgetting that art does not always have to be beautiful on the surface.
I don’t like Jackson Pollack, either. For me, it demonstrates little talent and promotes a concept of elitism that is a variation on "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christian Andersen - with the “blank canvas” being a bit more like invisible clothing than muck being re-defined as style. I won’t make a comment on US politics here. Or perhaps I just did. (I’m not an actor, but I play one on TV!) Perhaps I just lack the training (or indoctrination) to appreciate such things.
With respect: Is that what that noise was, starting at the 2:00 mark? 30 seconds of Eeeeewwww! And you say that was a masterful example? I'll pass. The rest was excellent. I love Ensemble Matheus! Interesting how all of these musicians can add "percussionist" to their resume now...
A superb interpretation. This is a 17th century piece of programmatic music, intended to portray the tension, confusion, noise and uneasy aftermath of war, hence its title. The strange dissonances and unconventional use of the bows are all part of it, some of the many devices which made Biber an original and creative composer.
12 ans plus tard...
Et aussi neuf et emouvivifiant
Wow this sounds so modern and ahead of its time!!
Was inspired to look this piece up after hearing about it on BBC Radio 3 Musical Question Time. What an interesting piece and this ensemble performs it with a lot of fire!
Biber fantastico e grande Spinosi ! Una interpretazione strepitosa di una pagina grondante di genio, originalità e maestria tecnica.
Bravo!!!
this "sonata" is one of the first instances of prepared instruments, and i love bibers music. so atmospheric.
Extraordinaire.
Je viens de découvrir à l'image ce chef.
Je connaissais plusieurs de ses enregistrements que je possède.
Il m'a fait penser par son allant aux Giardino Armonico à ses dévuts sur scène.
sur scène.
C'est
Bravo.... sinon Bravissimo Alain
Soberbios !! Literalmente obnubilante ejecución . Directo de Bohemia a la inmortalidad . Biber y Spinosi junto al Ensemble Matheus se lucen en esta obra . Bravisimo !! 👏
Musicians=magicians.
Completely marvellous.
Thanks for posting.
SUPPER!Thank you for the Musik!First for Biber ,second for Ensemble Matheus!
Awesome performance, gives me some great ideas about how to perform it with my high school chamber ensemble.
Le bouillonnant chef de l'ensemble Matheus confirme son talent explosif!
wow.... incredible dissonances!!! Love it
Spinosi is literally jumping while playing.
I adore Biber. Thank you for this video
Fun to listen to all the different performances of this piece on youtube. So many ways to attack it, some far more interesting than others.
It's partially linear counterpoint, which can sacrifice harmony for independence of lines. The section is titled Gesellschaft von allerley Humor (“The dissolute society of all sorts”), and you can hear it; it's 8 different folk tunes stacked on top of each other, but it manages to stay relatively clean. If that's not masterful use of counterpoint (and amazingly prescient composing), I don't know what is.
An excellent upload! Cheered me up no end. Thank you!
love it. It is like Bach meets Ives. Biber was a little crazy and ahead of his time. This is a great performance.
Fantastic piece!
Wonderful interpretation.
Finally, Thanks for responding. I am always eager to learn, even if it is learning to identify something to bag on it.
OMG tnx for uploading !!! At long last, someone uploaded a live performance of Biber's Battaglia !!!!!!!! Tnx a million !!! :>
Amazing!!!!
Von Biber pochází z Čech, tak píšu česky - před nedávnem jsem viděl vystoupení jednoho ansámblu ze San Marina, který hrál s podobnou vervou renesanční repertoár. Klobouk dolů, tato interpretace mě strašně baví, máte krásný zvuk, jste dokonale sehraní a budu se pídit po dalších Vašich nahrávkách. A budu-li mít štěstí, třeba Vás uvidím i na pódiu. Biberova skladba je ovšem rovněž skvělá. Dobrá volba. Zdravím z Beskyd!
meraviglioso!!!
Fantastici, perfettamente affiatati..
Love the faces!1
Only 250 years ahead of his time, what's the big deal?!
xD
mind blowing.
WOOOW! Great performance, thanks a lot for posting it, I love this version, full of life! Like it all ( 1:50 great ) and find specially touching the slow episodes ( like 5:24 )
THANKS AGAIN! =)
Muy bueno,Excelente
Spinosisme et les Mateus quel talent!
Wow!
GOOD VIDEO !!!!!!!!!!! o
Viva BOHEMIA ....... and Bohemian Biber .....
I like!
“You never see food as a testament to death: -- Excellent!
However, I make the comparison simple for the moment. And while I also made the point of being able to modify food, I clearly like certain productions of specific music pieces by specific performers over the same piece done by another performer or even the same performer in a different setting (i.e., studio production versus live).
@kaikobird i think the opposite, by the way (of course if you didn't know it) in baroque music like this, the composer ask for certain this like stom or blow with archs, moreover, there's one indication 'con legno', it means blow with arch, and just one last thing...it seems you don't have a musical sense, because if you have, this like this give more character, rythm & movement to this kind of music - -'
thier tune sounds higher than what my orchestra plays
My goodness, he looks like Ryan Lochte
Modern visual art is indeed hard to understand since abstract visuals can be puzzling, but sound we can recognize immediately: from the military snare/fife duo in this piece (the section where the bass puts the paper under the string) to absolute horror (Penderecki's "Threnody to the Victims of Hiroshima").
But then again, I love Schoenberg, Bartok, and Prokofiev, so I am an outlier in the current times' taste of music. Plus, I'm a bit of a composer/arranger myself.
r there special notes for that clapping/tapping part
...and they really are enjoying themselves ...or should i say himself... Spinosi i mean :>
As a wine professional, I know that taste is subjective, yet can be trained. While you think it is “pretty damn cool,” suffice it to say that I don’t like that sound. I find it harsh; but unlike a tannic wine, I cannot temper the bite by decanting, aging or pairing it with a big rib-eye. This is neither intended as an insult to those who do like this sound nor those who produce it.
As a wine teacher, I have 3 performances of one of Bach’s Lute Suites. John Williams, Julian Bream and Ana Vidovic. 8-12 seconds of an easily identified melody (starting at 1:30, here: /watch?v=7j8jExFEf4s) to demonstrate how different “one” thing can be. In my case, one grape variety grown in the same vineyard in the same vintage versus one set of note played on the same instrument in roughly the same atmosphere.
Just last night I was lamenting the abuse (regardless of the original artist’s blessing) of a great (modern) piece from the 1980s (rock/punk/ska) and incorporating it into a different genre (hip hop). UGH! Or even Kid Rock’s mélange that includes “Sweet Home Alabama.” On the other hand, Billy Joel did not spit on Beethoven’s Pathetic with “This Night.” I fondly recall dating a classical pianist who asked me what I’d like to hear her play: “…that Billy Joel song,” I derped!
im playing this song in my hs orchestra...
They should have used parchment
Hmm... Interesting @ 1:50. And they say atonality began in the 20th century.
You're trying to tangent off to taste of which performance is preferred. I'm talking about composition. This is baroque experimental music (rare for its time); from col legno to polytonality, everything screams experimental. Saying you don't like it because it sounds harsh is like saying you don't like horror movies because they're scary. You just can't dislike a work of art for being what it is intended to be.
historicistas...
yes sir. glorious isn't it?
Great piece, i think Biber was high when he wrote this
have to play this for my hs orchestra, this sucks to play buts fun to hear lol
a more relaxed tempo than most. But this music is meant to be fun! it looks like they're taking it too seriously - except maybe the leader
Interesting you bring up food (wine, but I'm gonna expand that to food). Food art is a category where pleasure triumphs all: you want shit to taste good. You never see food as a testament to death (Schubert's String Quartet No. 14) or as a depiction of a drunk Scottish wedding (Peter Maxwell Davies' "Orkney Wedding, with Sunrise"). Food is a very limited medium of art; it is necessary for humans to eat to survive, and IMO our tongues have grown hypersensitive to sense poison, filth, etc.
I’m not being contentious, just discussing. It’s all a matter of personal preference. I can dislike anything I want for any reason I want. My personal likes and dislikes are my own and do not define anything except for me. If one likes music that, for my ears, clashes with itself then that is fine for them. I am certainly no authority on music. I keep a beat like a politician keeps a promise.
The next thing you'll see is river dancing. ;P
And music is perhaps the least concrete of all medium, but also perhaps the most concrete: you never hear western harmony in nature (it is very abstract in this regard) but melodically composers always imitate the real world in one way or another. The "dissolute society" section imitates what is basically a drunken soldiers' party, and it succeeds in doing so. As a food professional you're forgetting that art does not always have to be beautiful on the surface.
no one understood mvmt 2 ever.
I don’t like Jackson Pollack, either. For me, it demonstrates little talent and promotes a concept of elitism that is a variation on "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christian Andersen - with the “blank canvas” being a bit more like invisible clothing than muck being re-defined as style. I won’t make a comment on US politics here. Or perhaps I just did. (I’m not an actor, but I play one on TV!)
Perhaps I just lack the training (or indoctrination) to appreciate such things.
With respect: Is that what that noise was, starting at the 2:00 mark? 30 seconds of Eeeeewwww! And you say that was a masterful example? I'll pass.
The rest was excellent. I love Ensemble Matheus! Interesting how all of these musicians can add "percussionist" to their resume now...
unfortunately, wrong tempo