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Mercedes S 580 e PHEV: Better than any EQ series Mercedes!
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2023
- After experiencing the 791 HP @Mercedes-AMG S 63 e Performance, MotoMan tries another @MercedesBenz S Class PHEV: The 510 HP @mbusa S 580e Plug In Hybrid. While they are both PHEVs, the Mercedes S580e is vastly different from the Mercedes AMG S 63e - everything from set up to its complexity which almost makes the Mercedes S 580e PHEV feel like it is built from an entirely different car . . .
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To be clear in terms of the options game: The inteior is not $3,110 extra for the color, that color combo is available as a free option. That extra is for the "exclusive" interior which adds three things:
1) Nicer leather on the parts aside from the seats, so that means upper and lower dashboard and upper and mid door panels replace MB-Tex with Nappa leather
2) Suede headliner
3) The additional wiid trim with the little ambient lighting strip on the back of the front seats.
Hope this helps!
Hey Motoman, I can’t wait for you to test the new Cayenne Turbo. It’s got 750 hp!!! It’s an E-Hybrid and the electric motor is a bit underpowered at around 166hp compared to the X5 50e that’s got 200 hp. I sure hope you also test the BMW…🙂
Very nice! Plug-in hybrids are the best of both worlds. One thing I will say though, this one needs a V8!
Thank you sir, this video is finally here!
My pleasure!
Yeah, the murdered-out look is no bueno on an S-Class. Completely agreed, particularly on the point of the black wheels.
They should put this drive train in the new EClass
Here for the options game.
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I remember a Time, when a luxurycar was described by its ride quality... wether it was quiet inside and how soft the suspension is... nowadays everything is about acceleration and agility... wtf if i had the money for one of these... i would drive extra slow to enjoy more time in it
Why can't this channel draw more subscribers? There are other car review channels which go from a few tens of thousands subscribers to a few hundreds of thousands in 1 or 2 years. What's the catch?
This one is for people above 16.
@@jareknowak8712 Come on!
A fantastic DC and AC Charging rate but so sad to hear that they can’t charge off of the ice engine any faster than that. As always great review‼️💯 12:45
Im not sure, but maybe it will be fixable by software actualization.
A 26.6 kWh hybrid battery to achieve 60 kW isn't all that amazing. If this were a pack built from Kia BEV cells, less peppy, it would be charging at closer to 80 kWh. Did they somehow just use EQ range and cost optimized cells for the S-Class PHEV battery? That would explain the barely 2C charging and only 140-odd hp. Utterly unimpressive, uninspired and lazy engineering all in my book.
The S class is so far superior than the eqs. All the EQ line is a sort of "nice try" from Mercedes but i just can´t take it seriously in comparison with the current ICE alternatives in the same brand. This S class looks just epic from almost any angle and the EQS is hard to actually find a good angle that looks good. Maybe is decades of design tradition but sedans like the S class are just perfectly proportioned.
my choice of cars , Chyanne S hybrid and S class 500 E
It is really hard for me to imagine people buying $140K cars could possibly care about saving $150 a month in gas. I drive a 2021 Nissan Versa and I don't give a shyte about $150 a month more or less in gas.
Caught my eye on mr.benz channel. Figured hybrid spared environment. You come along reporting barely better than the 500 and more money minus options.
500 the preferable buy.
PHEV is the new BEV.
Great review, fantastic car and a good value for what you get.! With BMW, Audi and even Cadillac hard loaded all 80,000 and up the 139,000 for the best is not a terrible price to pay! I do worry about the reliability and service issues with all electrical components in short supply if it breaks the waiting for parts is now months not weeks and for 139,000, I would be upset!
Please review the BMW X5 50e PHEV.
I would like your input regarding whether a standard X5 40i is the move, or the $5,000 price difference is warranted in the move up to the 50e model.
After 10 months with a 2023 X5 45e, it is for me. I plug it in daily and average 90% all electric miles monthly getting ~28 miles range in January and ~40 miles in August. The B58 is great when you need it but the electric motor gets me almost everywhere.
Looks awesome!
vsry good limousine to drive and enjoy.
I'm here for the car.... and weirdly distracted by the fact that your shoelaces match your shirt. Did you do that on purpose? 😅
Can't say that was the plan . . .
When I look at an S class, so harmonious and breathtaking, I can't understand how they could design and produce the EQs, including the EQS.
Really cheap looking computer screens in that car
That car really needs more switchgear and less screens.
Couldn't agree more.
@@MotoManTV Old S class was better imo...This just looks like a larger C class
@@pete64041it doesn't look like a larger c class. It looks better than the old one
Gangsta! 👍
5:02 - Have you considered (to avoid auto(!)-suggestion) driving a car first and then learning its numbers?
I might have to consider one. But then again, the Flying Spur and Bentayga seem to beckon as well.
Comparing to S63 VS S580, I would prefer to go with S63 even though it cost more than S580. Thank you for this video.
All-Wheel Steering???
Not really certain what I gain over a non PHEV S class.
Great reviews as always. However, in my opinion, what a waste of money on this particular vehicle. Everything is nickel and dime. I will go with the 2024 BMW 750e M Sport Package.
It’s like the auto industry left Detroit and ran right to Atlanta and South Carolina , why ? To hear him say murdered out I get a kick out of……
Forstof all im not driving that winding road.
I like the night package
Great car but who will buy it? Just buy the 580 and avoid all the possible problems with the EV part. Who really want to plug a 139K car in?
I would imagine there are quite a few possible buyers. For a variety of reasons.
The idea that the EV components might be less reliable… The moving parts are far less than ICE. And recent Mercedes engines have required a fair amount of maintenance to keep on the road. Now do either of those matter for the first buyer who will own this for three years. Probably not. But I do imagine most of these buyers will prefer to plug in their car at home, as it will mean on their daily commutes they will rarely have to fill it up with gas, which is less refined than plugging it in to charge at home.
I plug in my $170k Taycan , gladly.
How is this better than EQS or EQE? The first thing you said is there's a huge delay in the throttle.
Clearly spelled out in the episode: They way they drive. This has the feel of a Mercedes. It demonstrates their knowledge through years of experience building the S Class. The EQS is not that. They drive like a bigger, heavier Lexus RX. Is that terrible, no. Is that different? Yes. And for the folks that are looking for this type of car/experience, my money would be on the S.
It doesn’t look like a $150k plastic Cadbury Egg?
Nope for black wheels.
Not impressed by the electric part of the driveline, quite heavy, quite short range despite not the smallest battery, not a huge difference in economy.
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The secret that nobody tells you with EV or Hybrid cars, you will be going through more tires than a gas powered car. Tesla's eat tires and I'm sure with the weight of this car you'll probably find a drop of about 34% tread life than with a S500 or S580
Gas prices almost $7 a gallon here in California, I'll take the EQ.
Or, move out of Commiefornia?
Yeah, no, the blacked out trim just doesn't work on the current S-Class.
Those black wheels look unbelievably cheap. Hell no
All this phev stuff on high end vehicles, is either because of the epa or simply following market trends. There is no way in hell, the demographic buying this, truly deep down care about the phev part.
So true
It bugs me to no end that we can hide 120 kWh under the floor of a sedan shorter than this S-Class, and you'll only notice with the height of the floor under the rear passenger's feet. But a 26'6 kWh battery, that just eats away hundreds of litres of cargo space, that a basic BEV with 120 kWh somehow DOES have. And hey, this car doesn't even have a rear motor, it's a glorified starter motor! As with QE, I'm sad to say, horribly lazy engineering and unworthy the price tag. With the battery size, the starter motor could be a good chunk better, and the battery hidden better. The EQC is a converted GLC and hit hides 90 kWh or so somehow.
why? why? why can't they hide better than front-facing camera, is like acne on a teenager's face. They could do a better job on the S63, why can't they use same approach on the regular S, .... :(( this bugs me the most ;)