Princess Isabella goes to Portugal to marry King Manuel (Isabel s03e05)

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • Isabella of Aragon travels to Portugal to marry King Manuel, accompanied by her parents, Isabella I of Castile and Ferdinand II of Aragon. However, her brother Prince John falls gravely ill in Castile and the news scare them all.
    Isabel s03e05 - The Drama Comes to Court
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  • @ashtoneva4926
    @ashtoneva4926 5 лет назад +93

    Even though it is sad with Prince John and all, I loved that Isabella and Queen Isabella had a heart to heart. It was much needed. Although I do think it was kind of cute when Queen Isabella told Manuel to treat her daughter exceptionally.

  • @crikitaftw
    @crikitaftw 5 лет назад +103

    I was looking forward to this scene between mother and daughter, it's one of my favourites. But note that at 1:46 what Isabel says is: "one never ceases to miss a mother's love", meaning that however strong she may be, she still needed to feel that her mother loved her. I felt so bad for her in this scene.

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  5 лет назад +8

      Yeah, but that translation sounded so unenglish, and the line I used means basically the same and doesn't sound so strange for an English speaker. I consulted my native English teacher on the matter.

    • @crikitaftw
      @crikitaftw 5 лет назад +3

      @@Lily1127channel Really? To me "a mother's love is never enough" doesn't mean the same at all, as it's like saying she wouldn't be satisfied no matter how much her mother loved her. That is the way I see at least, but I'm no English native myself.

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  5 лет назад +2

      Sometimes you can't say exactly the same while not sounding strange in the new language because there are lines and expressions you say often in one language and don't say in another language. Cease to do something is such a line. While you say it in Spanish in many contexts, the usage is much less wide in English. They may say it with an action but with an emotion it often sounds strange and unenglish (but it also depends on the emotion, the context, etc). It's a case when you know immediately that it is a translated line and not originally English because a native wouldn't say it. Or so the teacher says.
      A mother's love is never enough in this context means exactly that you always need to feel that your mother loves you. Just like what you said in your first comment.

    • @crikitaftw
      @crikitaftw 5 лет назад +1

      @@Lily1127channel I know you can't translate everything word by word, of course. What I didn't know is that your translation has the same meaning that the original line. My mistake, then.

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  5 лет назад +1

      @@crikitaftw well, not exactly the same, but very similar

  • @janefelix3821
    @janefelix3821 2 года назад +9

    Actually the death of Prince John made Princess Isabella heir to the throne of Castile. It also meant that a her child would become King/Queen of both Portugal and Castile (ultimately Spain).

  • @luisfedericosala1354
    @luisfedericosala1354 5 лет назад +25

    The best series about Isabel I’s life.🌹🌷❤️♥️

  • @scailat
    @scailat 5 лет назад +52

    Aunque se caso con Manuel I de Portugal y se convirtió en Reina de aquel país la princesa Isabel de Aragon y Castilla nunca dejo de amar a su primer y único amor el príncipe Alfonso siempre llevo en su corazón el gran amor que se tuvieron aunque Manuel fue un hombre bueno con ella y la amaba profundamente siempre supo que Isabel no lo amaba como el hubiera deseado.

    • @nenisguevaragomez8122
      @nenisguevaragomez8122 5 лет назад +28

      Exacto, aunque después de la muerte de Isabel, se casaría con la hermana de ella, María de Aragón por quien también sintió un profundo amor y respeto pues cuentan que durante el tiempo que duraron casados, (María murió en su último parto) el le fue fiel. Tuvieron 10 hijos entre ellos a Isabel de Portugal, futura Emperatriz del Sacro Imperio Romano Germánico al casarse con Carlos I de España.

  • @nenisguevaragomez8122
    @nenisguevaragomez8122 Год назад +6

    At least both Isabellas made the peace before Isabella of Aragon died prematurely.

  • @nenisguevaragomez8122
    @nenisguevaragomez8122 5 лет назад +33

    Mientras el príncipe enfermo gravemente Juan cuando era niño, Isabel rezaba a Dios por que se llevara a cualquier otro miembro de la familia pero no al heredero. Que duró!

  • @IceGirl2772
    @IceGirl2772 5 лет назад +42

    Oh, I think the next few videos are going to be sad with both John and Isabella dying.

  • @swarnadeepsen9123
    @swarnadeepsen9123 4 года назад +16

    During King Manuel's reign, Goa was conquered by Senor Afonso du Albuquerque.

  • @lisawinter7842
    @lisawinter7842 5 лет назад +73

    It's sad to know how this marriage ends for Isabella 😢

    • @crikitaftw
      @crikitaftw 5 лет назад +6

      How come so many of the people that are watching for the first time already know what is going to happen?

    • @claireb2326
      @claireb2326 5 лет назад +34

      @@crikitaftw When you are a bit into history, you already know the story outlines... this is one of the biggest succession crisis for 'Spain' coming up :)

    • @crikitaftw
      @crikitaftw 5 лет назад +18

      @@claireb2326 I'm surprised Spain's history is that well known by foreigners who comment here. I studied this dynasty at school, but I'm Spaniard. I know many people into historical pieces usually learn history after watching, but people here really know their stuff. :)

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  5 лет назад +40

      This era of Spain was actually so world-changing that I think every decent European school history class teaches about some15-16th century Spanish history. For example, what we learned was that the union of Spain quasi happened in 1469 when Isabella and Ferdinand got married, we learned about the 1492 conquest of Granada and discovery of America, and we learned that eventually who united Spain was their Habsburg grandchild Charles (and then many other thing about Charles's reign, of course). Only by knowing the Habsburg inherited Spain, you could deduce the others had to die 😞

    • @fawadahmedshaikh718
      @fawadahmedshaikh718 5 лет назад +8

      The Muslims of the world remember as the end of there golden age when the Muslims r exiled.

  • @ajvanmarle
    @ajvanmarle 3 года назад +9

    "Smallpox, tell me it's not serious!"
    Is that a joke? Who wrote that line? Smallpox is 25 per cent lethal under the best of circumstances and everyone in those days knew it. They may not have understood what the disease actually was, but they were not naive.

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  3 года назад +13

      It's confusing because of the translation. That Spanish word doesn't really have one perfect translation in English. It can mean any kind of illness whose symptom is to have pots on the skin. It is used for smallpox but also for other kinds of "poxes", as far as I know, e.g. also for chickenpox and others. But since the English word "pox" is used mostly for syphilis in today's English, it did not seem a correct translation to me. It would haven been weird to use "pox" here. Smallpox may not be a perfect word either but in that context it seemed the best possible translation to me (also because we will eventually see how quickly the illness took him, so it must have been smallpox).
      But in Spanish, the line they wrote makes sense perfectly, as they only say "pox", that could mean in their small medieval medical knowledge any kind of illness whose symptom is to have small pots on the skin. 😊
      Btw I don't think it's that "ridiculous" to say "tell me it's not serious" if your child is ill, as a kind of wishful thinking. Even if you know that every 4th people dies of it. Smallpox had different levels of seriousness, it could be lethal and less serious too.

  • @ginmar8134
    @ginmar8134 7 месяцев назад +2

    The mother looks like Isabel's sister. It's so confusing.

  • @cindyaraya7317
    @cindyaraya7317 4 года назад +9

    Sometimes I wonder if Queen Isabelle truly loved her children.

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  4 года назад +29

      She did, very much. She was so devastated and depressed after their deaths which was unusual for a royal mother (royal mothers were usually distant and cold).

    • @cindyaraya7317
      @cindyaraya7317 4 года назад +10

      @@Lily1127channel You are right, a lot of mothers we're usually distant and cold. Didn't know that Queen Isabelle after the death of her eldest daughter though, I figured she was devastated after the death of her son, and grandson by her eldest daughter.

    • @cheerbearsue
      @cheerbearsue 2 года назад +2

      She was so devastated that she collapsed after the death of Isabelle. And also upset about the what she said right before she died.

  • @sandarway
    @sandarway 3 года назад +6

    Y empieza la desgracia para esa familia, que triste

    • @RaulGonzalez-xt1kx
      @RaulGonzalez-xt1kx 3 года назад +3

      Pobre Castilla y Aragón cayeron en manos flamencas q solo saquearon las arcas

  • @miab.9521
    @miab.9521 5 лет назад +12

    Lili1127, I know this scene was hard to translate, believe me it was hard to watch. 😢☹️😞😇

  • @margarethutchins5308
    @margarethutchins5308 3 года назад +2

    Different isabella

  • @joelvega6755
    @joelvega6755 4 года назад +1

    . .
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  • @GabyHernandez-rv3vo
    @GabyHernandez-rv3vo 4 месяца назад +1

    😮😢😂❤

  • @MH-ms1dg
    @MH-ms1dg Год назад

    what was the significance of the wanderer at 4:51?

  • @sandraobrien8705
    @sandraobrien8705 3 года назад +4

    So she had to marry one man, then go back and marry his brother? That's really sick, poor woman.

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  3 года назад +14

      No, Manuel was not the brother of her first husband Afonso, only a distant relation. Second cousin or something lile that.

    • @sandraobrien8705
      @sandraobrien8705 3 года назад +1

      @@Lily1127channel ok thanks

    • @krushnaji4940
      @krushnaji4940 2 года назад +2

      @@Lily1127channel no he was his half brother ( eligiment child but granted the throne) .

    • @Lily1127channel
      @Lily1127channel  2 года назад +6

      @@krushnaji4940 No. Prince Afonso of Portugal, the first husband of Isabella of Aragon, was just a cousin of Manuel I of Portugal, her second husband. Afonso's parents were John II of Portugal and Eleanor of Viseu, Manuel's parents were Ferdinand of Viseu and Beatrice of Portugal. So Afonso and Manuel were not brothers or half brothers.
      Look at the family trees:
      images.app.goo.gl/7s8znev2KSnYtTMx8

    • @sweetielaprincessa2467
      @sweetielaprincessa2467 4 месяца назад +1

      Afonso was Manuel's nephew. His mother, Eleanor of Viseu, was Manuel's older sister.