I think the biggest issue with live coaching like this is that live, it's very difficult to instantly respond, so by the time a person responds, it's probably too late. But I think looking back at the game and seeing notes is helpful! It's not necessarily going to be your best game, but a learning game is still very valuable
Both bsj and his students can sometimes get too caught up in what they're doing in that moment instead of catching up their thought process to where it should be That being said bsj still very good and I would pay for this experience too
Not amazing for the guy being coached, but does show us that not knowing the right thing to do at the right time and those split second hesitations are what makes a difference; not just being technically good at your hero. Actual coaching works best with game/play reviews. So you let them make mistakes and explain in downtime; or make a note and go through it after the game. Or just review a game they had prepared where they felt they struggled a lot but have no clue why. Not the most riveting content that way, tho.
mans getting too much homework to do between weeks, hes got a lot to improve for a month minimum lol would be great content if they keep doing this weekly tho
I remember watching this live xD. Was incredibly stressful and shows that you have to be switched on all the time to make a big difference as a 1. great vid :)
Yes because level 12 on every hero is 8200 total experience and that’s a 41000 xp lead and a 12.5k gold lead which is insurmountable. Level 1 hero’s have maybe 20% of the strength as level 10s even let alone 12. Maybe if it was 1k start gold and level 4-5 this would be interesting concept.
@@ashtonduda9971 Yeah I really wonder at what point Heralds get a guarantee win. This is why its interesting concept. What level and what gold advantage they need to win against immortals.
There's something to be said for when the carry is babysitting the map correctly, that the rest of your team doesn't do weird crap and bad rotations that don't make sense.
@@moebino2685 I am Crusader 1 eu and really felt like he played worse than people in my rank. Felt bad for the guy because he probably was super stressed but it is true that ranks can differ between regions. Hopefully he learns from the coaching and does better.
@@BelloWenN being stressed is fine because he is not used to playing on that level, but I felt like he didn't trust bsj in a lot of his instructions that's what bothered me.
This is literally my carry when I play the support I literally scream at my carry to get out every time he oversteps and scream at him to farm when he tped into bad team fight
that has to be the best live coaching he ever did, holy shit i was at the edge of my seat, moar plz The best parts where when he started asking for skills and items, while the fights where on, like "HOW DOES HE HAVE TIME TO THINK OF THAT xD
There's two situation in this which I think it should be worth trying AVOID them. 1. not communicate with his support Jakiro, telling him most of the times to play safe, pull, etc. 2. ignoring your support, essentially at this stage of the game could cost the entire game, cuz his support jakiro thought was doing fine for you, and you just leave him clicking asking for help, and in response to that situation he abandoned you in the lane with two big threats. You gotta keep lh, not chace, but in a low rank there's much more happening than that which leads to losing the game too.
Looks so easy when watching but I know how scary it is to split push behind enemy lines when the enemy is pushing your towers. If you die you'll break your team's morale and get reported. Probably more so at low MMR (like me).
Guys, BSJ is first 1) pro player 2) content creator 3) coach Obviously he doesn't have the best tools to pass down knowledge, hasn't studied pedagogy/psicology, he is good at the game, cut some slack A tip: instead of telling him what to do, ask him questions that lead to the right answers. He may lose (I get you don't want him to lose) but he will retain the knowledge better
if you watched his replay analysis, you would know he already does that... Dota is a high paced game, there is zero time to discuss things while playing, lol.
I just followed (or tried to) everything BSJ taught us in this video, I carried my team from a 20k disadvantage when every lane was badly lost. Feels good!
I was thinking about the same. Im currently Herald 5 @ EU and i have been playing dota2 since 2011, but had a almost 3 year break. But watching at this guy @ 2.3k mmr I was like "Hows this guy over 2k mmr and im below 1000?!?!"
and the nick of this door is sinergy. DUDE THIS GUY HAS PERMANENT BRAIN DMG, DUDE THIS DUDE IS NOT ARCHON AT ALL...the system is crazy if this guy is archon. jesus christ.
I don't get how Luna has the same MMR as the rest of people in here but plays so much worse, especially compared to AM. I will go along with the rest and say it's because he is trying to follow BSJ instructions that he can't think of anything else.
Silver edge bad investment. Linkens on Luna is plain stupid late game. Support can just buy lotus. Manta Butterfly Satanic Dragon Lance MKB BKB was easy win, rapier wasn’t needed if he bought correct items.
Just tryin to help you out here BSJ, but when you coach, you are aware when you wig out like that, is that type of behavior tends to just stress the person out that you are coaching and will generally push them into making even worse decisions. I get it tho, no one is perfect, and he maybe making bad decisions, but still, you make it worse when you do that lol.... I'm surprised no one else has pointed this out to you yet
He is literally saying what you have to do. Even when I was 2k, I knew that you don't try to go for a cs in a 2v1 lane with multiple stuns. That Luna just walked meele range into that. if you are anywhere above 5k, you'd have a headache just watching that Luna not able to follow the most basic instructions.
@@advaitthavare I am 1.5k and i know that too. I felt like he doesn't understand his hero or what the enemy heroes are capable of.Could be just the stress though.
Dude this guy is not a 2k. I mean, 2K is low and bad but he has no idea what he was doing. I would believe if he was like Herald 1 around 300MMR. Either way, great lesson!
Wouldn't this be a lot more valuable if you did this with another content creator? I feel like the information will be digested a lot better if you're working with someone who will embody the audience. Just me two cents, also if you'd ever be interested in a collab, I think it'd be great content.
you're coaching skillz needs to be more chill dude. i would be angry if you randomlly yelled like that. No easy way to focus during a game. You need to be the calm one XD That guy with 2300 MMR, is like sweating just from laning, and you are yelling during intense moments xD
I think the biggest issue with live coaching like this is that live, it's very difficult to instantly respond, so by the time a person responds, it's probably too late. But I think looking back at the game and seeing notes is helpful! It's not necessarily going to be your best game, but a learning game is still very valuable
Both bsj and his students can sometimes get too caught up in what they're doing in that moment instead of catching up their thought process to where it should be
That being said bsj still very good and I would pay for this experience too
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@@loganmyall660 How much for bsj coaching session?
Fck, 200 usd is my monthly salary lmao
Not amazing for the guy being coached, but does show us that not knowing the right thing to do at the right time and those split second hesitations are what makes a difference; not just being technically good at your hero.
Actual coaching works best with game/play reviews. So you let them make mistakes and explain in downtime; or make a note and go through it after the game. Or just review a game they had prepared where they felt they struggled a lot but have no clue why.
Not the most riveting content that way, tho.
I am only 5min in and BSJ already had like 2 heart attacks and 1 stroke :D
The guy is giving me a stroke too
Ngl this looks stressful af. I think anyone would play worse than usual in this scenario.
No it’s not he’s pslying vs 2k noobs it’s so easy
Yeah remember slacks coaching gruby?
No its fine. Anyone who signs up for BSj coaching is already a masochist.
@@KidTriggerhe is 2k himself
@@user-ft3ll3gp5l yeah hes trash
Ever since I came back to dota after around 6 to 7 years, your videos helped me get back on track. Really lovin this series.
It felt like you introduced about 5 completely new concepts to this guy. You'll see him next week? This a series? Big if true.
mans getting too much homework to do between weeks, hes got a lot to improve for a month minimum lol would be great content if they keep doing this weekly tho
@@Antido0 You are only as good as the amount of work you put in and thats in anything in life.
3:55 that panic indian war call made this video
16:52 not only is that a good analogy, it's probably a very accurate statement about the players lmao
Love this. Please do more live coaching sessions BSJ. :)
I remember watching this live xD. Was incredibly stressful and shows that you have to be switched on all the time to make a big difference as a 1. great vid :)
Man, I missed these kind of videos. Thanks BSJ for coming back with these videos, you always do a great job. Eagerly waiting for the next one.😎😎😎😎
"If they are not providing you information by farming creep waves, that means you don't have to either"
Anyone have a count on the amount of times contradicting directions were given with 1 second of each other?
Hi BSJ. How can I get a couching session from you? Where do I find you as a couch?
Thank you.
one thing I can see in this session is this jakiro definitely need coaching
I can feel how stressful BSJ is by doing this coaching business. Kudos to you! keep up the good work. 😁😁
Video Idea: 5 Heralds vs 5 Immortals. Heralds start at level 12 with 2.5k gold each. Would Heralds be able win?
Yes because level 12 on every hero is 8200 total experience and that’s a 41000 xp lead and a 12.5k gold lead which is insurmountable. Level 1 hero’s have maybe 20% of the strength as level 10s even let alone 12. Maybe if it was 1k start gold and level 4-5 this would be interesting concept.
@@ashtonduda9971 Yeah I really wonder at what point Heralds get a guarantee win. This is why its interesting concept. What level and what gold advantage they need to win against immortals.
@@ashtonduda9971 nah i see 5 immortla thorwing against low mmr and they still comeback on the game hahahahaha
@@juliusrendon5936 nah heralds are the most garbage players to exist.
this was actually one of the best BSJ coiaching videos, he had a good team BSJ u should see wat normal teams do when carry is farming...
There's something to be said for when the carry is babysitting the map correctly, that the rest of your team doesn't do weird crap and bad rotations that don't make sense.
Gotta love these series!! Please more of this kind o videos my beloved BSJ!
FINALLY COACHING SESSIONS AGAIN!!
its so funny when he thought that his student can do RTZ thing hahah, i love it
the day BSJ had 3heart attacks during coaching .
This man needs a medal for the "patience"👍💀😓
idk if it's regional difference but it felt like he's playing like guardian 5-crusader 1 on SEA
he played like herald in eu
@@moebino2685 I am Crusader 1 eu and really felt like he played worse than people in my rank. Felt bad for the guy because he probably was super stressed but it is true that ranks can differ between regions. Hopefully he learns from the coaching and does better.
@@BelloWenN being stressed is fine because he is not used to playing on that level, but I felt like he didn't trust bsj in a lot of his instructions that's what bothered me.
It's hard to coach people who dont understand shit about the game and still won't listen when you tell them the right thing to do
LMAO THIS WAS FUNNY AND HELPFUL, THANKS BSJ SENSEI
very good coaching....respect BSG!!
This is literally my carry when I play the support I literally scream at my carry to get out every time he oversteps and scream at him to farm when he tped into bad team fight
When do you skip dragon lance on luna?
was it his fault what happened on the last fight?
Forget about map awareness. This dude needs to learn how to play luna first.
Silver badge ain't enough 🤣
The best one so fair
Lol coach is stressed asf lol I like it though most - learn a lot thanks BSJ you da best!
that has to be the best live coaching he ever did, holy shit i was at the edge of my seat, moar plz
The best parts where when he started asking for skills and items, while the fights where on, like "HOW DOES HE HAVE TIME TO THINK OF THAT xD
Is this really 2k? In other regions this happen on herald-guardian
This was super helpful! Hope the guy learned a lot too great game
"You gotta understand that you are the hot girl in the beach and these guys haven't get laid un like 3 years" 😂
Good one, HC gotta learn that
its so hard to watch this man everything you tell him he does the opposite unless you to tell him 5x times in a row for him to actually understand
this is like me, when my aunt teaches me basic math and spank me everytime I get the answer wrong, stressed af
This Jak didn't hit a single ice path XD
brians mind at x1000 10k trying to bottle it into a 2k, gold
There's two situation in this which I think it should be worth trying AVOID them. 1. not communicate with his support Jakiro, telling him most of the times to play safe, pull, etc. 2. ignoring your support, essentially at this stage of the game could cost the entire game, cuz his support jakiro thought was doing fine for you, and you just leave him clicking asking for help, and in response to that situation he abandoned you in the lane with two big threats. You gotta keep lh, not chace, but in a low rank there's much more happening than that which leads to losing the game too.
It looks more like Guardian game if you played it in Europe. Not Archon
Looks so easy when watching but I know how scary it is to split push behind enemy lines when the enemy is pushing your towers. If you die you'll break your team's morale and get reported. Probably more so at low MMR (like me).
I like watching really smart people
NA 2k is like 750 in SEA.
how is that 9k mind?
-"ARTEEZY! ...yea, no arteezy."
that's funny
I measured my blood pressure after this game. Wow +20... Quite stressful and i just watched.
Guys, BSJ is first
1) pro player
2) content creator
3) coach
Obviously he doesn't have the best tools to pass down knowledge, hasn't studied pedagogy/psicology, he is good at the game, cut some slack
A tip: instead of telling him what to do, ask him questions that lead to the right answers. He may lose (I get you don't want him to lose) but he will retain the knowledge better
he does that in replay analysis not live coaching, no time to discuss philosophy during live games
if you watched his replay analysis, you would know he already does that... Dota is a high paced game, there is zero time to discuss things while playing, lol.
@24:00 He BSJ Tp'd 😂 LOL
I just followed (or tried to) everything BSJ taught us in this video, I carried my team from a 20k disadvantage when every lane was badly lost. Feels good!
Love these!
imagine having 9k player help you and not listening
2k mmr in NA is like guardian in other regions
44:41 they had won here, luna is just too bad
On the EU server this player would be Herald V at max. Good content tho.
I was thinking about the same. Im currently Herald 5 @ EU and i have been playing dota2 since 2011, but had a almost 3 year break. But watching at this guy @ 2.3k mmr I was like "Hows this guy over 2k mmr and im below 1000?!?!"
and the nick of this door is sinergy. DUDE THIS GUY HAS PERMANENT BRAIN DMG, DUDE THIS DUDE IS NOT ARCHON AT ALL...the system is crazy if this guy is archon. jesus christ.
this reminds me way back when you used to coach eri, i wonder if you guys would be together 1 more time
Who is Eri? What happened?
@@franciscopen1681eri Series
nah hell no, Eri was a total buzzkill, ruined every video on how cringe he felt
@@DissarayJay disagree, i really like eri
Live coaching is the fucking best, more!
How many lines did BSJ do before this 😂
too many hotkeys for 2k to press :))
hysterical!!
Wow.. nice coach 👍
He plays like a herald.
it is what it is, but satanic is a must... no matter what bsj tells me or someone else in a game that goes late like this.
this guy is not a carry player, that's for sure
19:09 lmao 🤣🤣
DUUUUDE CONGRATZ ON YOUR CLASSIFICATION!, Good fucking job 2nd div is not easy at all, you can ask Qojqva and Excalibur
LOE HOW BSJ IS GETTING STRESSED FOR THE FIRST 5 MINS LMFAO
This is entertainingly stressful haha
Pretty sure the guy would have performed better in teamfights without coaching. Midgame farming patterns are fire tho
I don't get how Luna has the same MMR as the rest of people in here but plays so much worse, especially compared to AM. I will go along with the rest and say it's because he is trying to follow BSJ instructions that he can't think of anything else.
Poor guy must be nervous as fuck and BSJ is just screaming ahahaha
I guess you havent met me yet
You should stop this series BSJ. You had more heart attacks in a single video than my grandpa had his entire life 😂
11:40 okay Beyonce
"BSJ TP" :D
this is the definition of micromanagement
16:52 🤣🤣
Silver edge bad investment. Linkens on Luna is plain stupid late game. Support can just buy lotus. Manta Butterfly Satanic Dragon Lance MKB BKB was easy win, rapier wasn’t needed if he bought correct items.
Hahaha fucking bsj making everyone nervous:D
Secret fan here from PH
Which one? Dumb one or a good one?
BSJ on speed XD
i had a good laugh watching this xD
Just tryin to help you out here BSJ, but when you coach, you are aware when you wig out like that, is that type of behavior tends to just stress the person out that you are coaching and will generally push them into making even worse decisions. I get it tho, no one is perfect, and he maybe making bad decisions, but still, you make it worse when you do that lol.... I'm surprised no one else has pointed this out to you yet
Loollll the reaction 😅🤣🤣
I would never do a coaching session with bsj lol
I would definitely play worse because of him stressing me out
Not cool
And honestly he was even fucking rude with the dude
nah, still fun to learn. braindead people like me need that iron hand to learn that our mindset is dumb
He is literally saying what you have to do.
Even when I was 2k, I knew that you don't try to go for a cs in a 2v1 lane with multiple stuns. That Luna just walked meele range into that.
if you are anywhere above 5k, you'd have a headache just watching that Luna not able to follow the most basic instructions.
@@advaitthavare I am 1.5k and i know that too. I felt like he doesn't understand his hero or what the enemy heroes are capable of.Could be just the stress though.
Dude this guy is not a 2k. I mean, 2K is low and bad but he has no idea what he was doing. I would believe if he was like Herald 1 around 300MMR. Either way, great lesson!
...This person is 2.4k? Yikes.
still bellow average nothing impressive.
Good points but in reality it's Luna who ruined the game for radiant
Coach a 500mmr next bsj
he already did a long time ago, he just didn't uploaded it to youtube
I can't belive this is archon lvl... heralds in my games are way more dangerous >.
Golden goose 🤣🤣🤣
16:52 xD
Biggest issue here is nuub jakiro man he didn't hit a single spell like wtf how are you supposed to win with people like that on your team
Ngl his pathing tho 🐸🫠🫠🫠
go towards their map, they are 2k wont be following you -- here comes the tusk
lol
Great❤
Wouldn't this be a lot more valuable if you did this with another content creator? I feel like the information will be digested a lot better if you're working with someone who will embody the audience. Just me two cents, also if you'd ever be interested in a collab, I think it'd be great content.
you're coaching skillz needs to be more chill dude. i would be angry if you randomlly yelled like that. No easy way to focus during a game. You need to be the calm one XD
That guy with 2300 MMR, is like sweating just from laning, and you are yelling during intense moments xD
bro beeing salty is funny lol