Hüseynik Elazığ da eski bir yerleşim yeri hala dokusu bozulmamış hep öyle kalmasını temenni ediyorum ............güzel bir müzik ilk defa dinliyorum müthiş duygulandım
My grandmother (Mom's mother) was born in Huseynig, my grandfather (Dad's father) from Soursouri, his wife my grandmother from Khoylos. Can you imagine, just to have a real map of the true places they were born is a treasure for us
as close to the original as you get, 200 years ago to witness and hear a band was very unique the oud that was very popular in all of the Middle East was the most prized instrument
Kristapor Aintabtsi my great grandfather Nushan Hovsepian was born in Hussenig. He immigrated to New England the year we don't know. At first he lived in Worcester. By 1915 he was living in Providence. In the 30s he migrated with his wife and American-born children to Detroit.
@@volkansahin910 Nshan Hovsepian is my great grandfather, it is not a Turkish word it comes from Hovsep which is Armenian for Joseph (Yusuf). However yes they use many Turkish words and usually the last name has a Turkish root if it is based on the persons occupation (kuyumcu, demirci, kazanci, etc)
Allah rahmet etsin büyük babana sizin gibi büyük demokrat çalışkan insanlari oradan çıkarıp 5 para etmez insanlari oraya yerleştirdiler bende 1986 2010 yılına kadar huseynikte büyüdüm tarihinizi cok iyi araştırdım şimdiki huseynik dedelerinizin yaşadığı tarihten 100 yıl geriye gitmiş araplastirilmis gerici bir halk yaşıyor sizin eserlerinden hic bisey kalmamis
@@ismailcelik425 Miyadun in Armenian language means "one house". Indicating it's a very small village. Although it has an Armenian name, in the Armenian books it is stated that "Miyadun is a Kurdish-inhabited village near Tadem" (Tadim). Maybe Miyadin also has a meaning in Kurdish language. Probably if there were a few Armenians in Miyadin they were considered part of the community of Tadem to the south or Sursuri to the north, depending on where they lived. There was no Armenian church in Miyadin according to records. However Tadem and Sursuri are both very famous villages. Many of their descendants came to the United States. One of Tadem's descendants is the poet Diana Der-Hovhannesian.
@uncaspond thank you, thats very interesting as i wrote below i always assumed that "husenigin sazere" referred to saz's of husenig, as in the instrument called saz (baglama). in the liner notes to the kef time cd they've translated it as "the music of husenig" which is the same idea....however i dont have a source for that it was just my assumption...thank you for your info
@uncaspond Any idea what the words are for the last part of the medley? I came up with: Կիկօն է, Կիկօն է, մեր Մշեցի Կիկօն է: Նազ մի հաներ Հայ աղջիկ, փէշերովդ խօսք մի հաներ Հայ աղջիկ: This kinda makes sense, except for the "Mshetsi" part. Do you have any insight into this song? Also, I assume judging from your name you have something to do with a certain camp???
Following the Abdul Hamid Massacres, 1895, estimates as high as 250,000 to 300,000 Armenians Killed, this started the immigration to the USA, My Grandmother, From Erzurum-Karin left to be my Grandfather's mail order bride, they married in Providence, Rhode Island where many other Armenians had settled, had 11 children!!
Muharrem Sahlan üstat benim ermeni olduğumu nerden biliyorsun türkmen göçü duymadın herhalde her ayle ermeni değil ve soyunu bilenler var ben cemisgezek dedim sen
I think your grandfather had a classic case of projection. What he witnessed was actually what happened to Armenians. They were the ones put into churches and burned to death and your grandfather was hearing their cries. He probably couldn't reconcile with the fact that his own people were committing the atrocities so he projected it onto the Armenians. On the other hand, that's what my grandmother witnessed in Maras before she was sent on the death march to the Syrian dessert. Armenians were a minority with no political power in the Ottoman Empire. They were eradicated from their ancestral lands through systematic massacres, deportations and atrocities. That's how they ended up as refugees all over the world including Syria. My family was among them. In contrast your grandfather had the opportunity to live and thrive in his own country. If Armenians were the ones in power and the ones who committed the atrocities, then they would be the ones ruling Turkey now. But I know facts and logic probably wouldn't do anything to change your mind.
@@SuzieAbajian Suzi ABACIYAN=ABACIOĞLU Abacı ne demek?Biliyormusunuz? Eğer o defterleri açarsak altından kalkamazsınız.1071 de bize yardım edenler,Selçuklu ordusunda olanlar ve Osmanlının teba-ı sadıka diyerek övdüğü,Fatihin İstanbul'a getirip Patrikhanelerini açtırdığı bu Ermenilerin aklına fikir ,ellerine silah verip isyan ettirenler,o Ermenileri bırakıp gittiler.Neden 1071 den 1863 e kadar dost olarak yaşayan Ermeniler neden o emperyallere inandı?Prof Dimitri Kitsikis " Biz Yunanlılar,Türklerden özür dilemeli ve teşekkür etmeliyiz.Yüzyıllarca bizim dilimizi ,dinimizi korudular.1821 ve 1919 da İngiliz ihaeti ile hata yaptık.Acilen Yunanistan ,Türkiye ile birleşmelidir" diyor .Neden Ermeniler de Yunanlı prof gibi düşünmüyor.Bugün Yunanistan'ın silahlanmasına Yunanlılar karşı çıkıyor.Neden Ermeniler de nerede hata yaptık diye düşünmüyor? Ermeniler sanatkâr insanlardır. Yazık oluyor.
Sure the same said Aharon Valehi a spanish doc about the turkish victims in Harput - Kharpert. The history has two faces my dear don't forget your outrages on the turks and muslims there. Paper is allways patient! We will never forget how red from turkish blood the euphrat was days long.
Selam. Bunların heç biri erməni türküsü deyil. Erməni türküsü deyə bir şey yok. Bunlar Azərbaycan Türkiyə turkuləridir. Ermeniler biz türklərin topraklarına muziyine tarih boyunca göz dikmiş. Ermenilerin ne tarihi toprakları olmamış ne muziyi. Her hangi bir ölkədə yaşayan erməni həmən ölkənin muziyini yeməyini ermənilesdirmek isteyir
tahaylmz ne geri kalmış ve yobaz bir kişisin sen,Ermeni türk kürt hepimiz bir arada yaşıyoruz ve birbirimizi çok seviyoruz,Elazığlıyım ve hepimiz burda yaşıyoruz burda ermeni kardesleriminde toprakları var
Tam bir Harput klasiği. Klarnet, tambur, kanun, ses seda, yorum... Her şeyiyle Harput.
Kerem Selim ccc
Սիրելի ընկեր, ես գրկում եմ քեզ իմ անձնական զգացմունքներով: Սիրով և սիրով...👍👌👏🎼👏🎶👏🎶🤝🙏💯🧡🌹
Hüseynik Elazığ da eski bir yerleşim yeri hala dokusu bozulmamış hep öyle kalmasını temenni ediyorum ............güzel bir müzik ilk defa dinliyorum
müthiş duygulandım
Bozuldu hocam yapısı
Tüm türkiyenin her karışından sizlere selam olsun.
Thanks for showing in the map the villayet of Soursouri, where my family lived before 1915.
My grandmother (Mom's mother) was born in Huseynig, my grandfather (Dad's father) from Soursouri, his wife my grandmother from Khoylos. Can you imagine, just to have a real map of the true places they were born is a treasure for us
Hello im from soursouri i living here.
İf you want any info please write to me.
as close to the original as you get, 200 years ago to witness and hear a band was very unique the oud that was very popular in all of the Middle East was the most prized instrument
im hayr e kharpertsi :)
For ever Armenian. Never forgotten.
I am a Kürt from xarpet and I support your people..
@@azat191puahhaha TÜRK SANCAĞI HARPUT
Kristapor Aintabtsi my great grandfather Nushan Hovsepian was born in Hussenig. He immigrated to New England the year we don't know. At first he lived in Worcester. By 1915 he was living in Providence. In the 30s he migrated with his wife and American-born children to Detroit.
@@volkansahin910 my great grandfather came from Hussenig to Worcester in 1905 I later found out. What do YOU mean?
Surname ?
İt must have a Turkish word.
For example( im sure u know) berberian,bilezikjian,cesmeciyan,kilimcian,muslukjuan etc...
@@volkansahin910 Nshan Hovsepian is my great grandfather, it is not a Turkish word it comes from Hovsep which is Armenian for Joseph (Yusuf). However yes they use many Turkish words and usually the last name has a Turkish root if it is based on the persons occupation (kuyumcu, demirci, kazanci, etc)
My godfather was from Huseynig; so maybe my grandparent were froma this town. They came to Mexico in 1924.
Allah rahmet etsin büyük babana sizin gibi büyük demokrat çalışkan insanlari oradan çıkarıp 5 para etmez insanlari oraya yerleştirdiler bende 1986 2010 yılına kadar huseynikte büyüdüm tarihinizi cok iyi araştırdım şimdiki huseynik dedelerinizin yaşadığı tarihten 100 yıl geriye gitmiş araplastirilmis gerici bir halk yaşıyor sizin eserlerinden hic bisey kalmamis
One of my favorite songs çok güzel քեֆ։ Long live the memory and the music
Լուսավորի բոլորի հոգիները։
@JOROTIK
Thank you for sharing this moving clip. I agree with you.
Did anyone heard "miyadin" ? this places are armenian village in 1900.
I think I heard of a village called Miyadun. What province?
miyadin in elazığ turkey. we from miyadin. can you help me from miyadun history
Harry Kezelian my grandfather says armenians live in here very last years. they are with neigbourhood
@@ismailcelik425 send me your email
@@ismailcelik425 Miyadun in Armenian language means "one house". Indicating it's a very small village. Although it has an Armenian name, in the Armenian books it is stated that "Miyadun is a Kurdish-inhabited village near Tadem" (Tadim). Maybe Miyadin also has a meaning in Kurdish language. Probably if there were a few Armenians in Miyadin they were considered part of the community of Tadem to the south or Sursuri to the north, depending on where they lived. There was no Armenian church in Miyadin according to records. However Tadem and Sursuri are both very famous villages. Many of their descendants came to the United States. One of Tadem's descendants is the poet Diana Der-Hovhannesian.
çok güzel bir paylaşım
Huseynig was among Kharpert's largest Armenian villages, most immigrated to New England in the 1890s during the Hamidian Massacres.
boston en katsads
Sevkhach Fedayin Well most Armenians in New England live outside of Boston mostly in the towns of Massachusetts and Providence, Rhode Island.
Kristapor Aintabtsi kidem im kharpertsineris . chi mornas frezno al letsunen bayts medsamasnutyun poghokaganen
Sevkhach Fedayin Fresno aveli Bitlisti ga inch vor yes kidem. William Saroyani bes.
Kristapor Aintabtsi garoghe bayts shad Kharperti al ga yev medsamsnutyun@ poghokaganen
@uncaspond
thank you, thats very interesting as i wrote below i always assumed that "husenigin sazere" referred to saz's of husenig, as in the instrument called saz (baglama). in the liner notes to the kef time cd they've translated it as "the music of husenig" which is the same idea....however i dont have a source for that it was just my assumption...thank you for your info
Sadece enstrümental hali var mı ?
İs there instrumental version ?
Oh.. Ok..Thanks! Cool instrument!
اغنية قديمة وجميلة جدا
Çok güzel
@gedikler23
sazera (pronounced sazerı) is the plural of "saz", which is baglama saz.
sazera = sazlar or i guess sazları, i don't know much turkish.
Gürün//Sivas ❤❤❤
güzel müzik...
@uncaspond
Any idea what the words are for the last part of the medley? I came up with:
Կիկօն է, Կիկօն է, մեր Մշեցի Կիկօն է:
Նազ մի հաներ Հայ աղջիկ, փէշերովդ խօսք մի հաներ Հայ աղջիկ:
This kinda makes sense, except for the "Mshetsi" part. Do you have any insight into this song? Also, I assume judging from your name you have something to do with a certain camp???
փէշերովդ դոզ մի
Is Sazera a name of the family?
Following the Abdul Hamid Massacres, 1895, estimates as high as 250,000 to 300,000 Armenians Killed, this started the immigration to the USA, My Grandmother, From Erzurum-Karin left to be my Grandfather's mail order bride, they married in Providence, Rhode Island where many other Armenians had settled, had 11 children!!
check out the song adanayi voghp. The poem was written by smbat byurat after the hamidian massacre
@stephig7 Mshetsi Gigon would be Gigo from Mush.
Kef TIME!!!! OKHHHHHHHHH
sazera is plural of saz (baghlama)
ՀԻՄԱ ԵՍ ՈՒՆԵՑՈՂ ՄԻՋԻՆ «Yotn-Ա.Գ.« Ես զարմանում, որտեղ
NOW I'M HAVING MEDIUM "Yotn-Ag," I wonder where NO SUCH PLACE
Slm insan olan herkeze çemişgezek le ilgli bilgisi olan varmi
Mustafa Emre Özdemir var evet ,,hepiniz ermenisiniz 😀😀
Muharrem Sahlan üstat benim ermeni olduğumu nerden biliyorsun türkmen göçü duymadın herhalde her ayle ermeni değil ve soyunu bilenler var ben cemisgezek dedim sen
do you still live in cemisgezek? The location looks beautiful there
drummer (dömbekci) in this song, Buddy (Baruyr) Sarkissian's mother was from Çemişgezek
My Grandpa told when he was child Armenians massed turks into the mosque and set in fire. He was hearing victim's screams even that day.
I think your grandfather had a classic case of projection. What he witnessed was actually what happened to Armenians. They were the ones put into churches and burned to death and your grandfather was hearing their cries. He probably couldn't reconcile with the fact that his own people were committing the atrocities so he projected it onto the Armenians. On the other hand, that's what my grandmother witnessed in Maras before she was sent on the death march to the Syrian dessert. Armenians were a minority with no political power in the Ottoman Empire. They were eradicated from their ancestral lands through systematic massacres, deportations and atrocities. That's how they ended up as refugees all over the world including Syria. My family was among them. In contrast your grandfather had the opportunity to live and thrive in his own country. If Armenians were the ones in power and the ones who committed the atrocities, then they would be the ones ruling Turkey now. But I know facts and logic probably wouldn't do anything to change your mind.
which village or region? Do you know?
@@SuzieAbajian Suzi ABACIYAN=ABACIOĞLU Abacı ne demek?Biliyormusunuz? Eğer o defterleri açarsak altından kalkamazsınız.1071 de bize yardım edenler,Selçuklu ordusunda olanlar ve Osmanlının teba-ı sadıka diyerek övdüğü,Fatihin İstanbul'a getirip Patrikhanelerini açtırdığı bu Ermenilerin aklına fikir ,ellerine silah verip isyan ettirenler,o Ermenileri bırakıp gittiler.Neden 1071 den 1863 e kadar dost olarak yaşayan Ermeniler neden o emperyallere inandı?Prof Dimitri Kitsikis " Biz Yunanlılar,Türklerden özür dilemeli ve teşekkür etmeliyiz.Yüzyıllarca bizim dilimizi ,dinimizi korudular.1821 ve 1919 da İngiliz ihaeti ile hata yaptık.Acilen Yunanistan ,Türkiye ile birleşmelidir" diyor .Neden Ermeniler de Yunanlı prof gibi düşünmüyor.Bugün Yunanistan'ın silahlanmasına Yunanlılar karşı çıkıyor.Neden Ermeniler de nerede hata yaptık diye düşünmüyor? Ermeniler sanatkâr insanlardır. Yazık oluyor.
Sure the same said Aharon Valehi a spanish doc about the turkish victims in Harput - Kharpert. The history has two faces my dear don't forget your outrages on the turks and muslims there. Paper is allways patient! We will never forget how red from turkish blood the euphrat was days long.
Selam. Bunların heç biri erməni türküsü deyil. Erməni türküsü deyə bir şey yok. Bunlar Azərbaycan Türkiyə turkuləridir. Ermeniler biz türklərin topraklarına muziyine tarih boyunca göz dikmiş. Ermenilerin ne tarihi toprakları olmamış ne muziyi. Her hangi bir ölkədə yaşayan erməni həmən ölkənin muziyini yeməyini ermənilesdirmek isteyir
Konuştu fars kırması rus aşığı
wht the fuk??? Harput n Elazig belong Turks !!! that's all!!! long live elazig harput and turkey!!!!
tahaylmz ne geri kalmış ve yobaz bir kişisin sen,Ermeni türk kürt hepimiz bir arada yaşıyoruz ve birbirimizi çok seviyoruz,Elazığlıyım ve hepimiz burda yaşıyoruz burda ermeni kardesleriminde toprakları var