@@NaturalVeganLoveyeah but ocho really doesn’t know what hes saying half the time and is just speaking before even thinking.. hes funny and has good knowledge of the game but as far as actually diving into sports topics it’s usually hard to listen bc he either doesn’t really understand how things work or is ignorant or naive on the subject
Right, if ever there was a time the QB should change the play that was called that was it. But Pete and Russ were hating on Lynch they didn't want him to get the MVP
@@kgkg4118 It was not russ decision to make. They did not want both men to be the face of the season that year. The set was already fixed for Tom Brady to be the ultimate hero for that season.
I’m still trying to understand how the GM still has a job today? Between the trade, extension and Hackett. That’s three strikes. He should have followed Russ out the door.
Millionaires should never give billionaires a discount. Cause when it’s time to get rid of you they’ll always do what’s best for the team. Ain’t no loyalty in professional sports
@@meld1817fans actually hate the players and always complain that they get paid too much money. Don't forget that it doesn't matter how much they get paid they are still workers just like me and you.
ain't my money either way. Funny how when SOME players get paid they should get their money. When OTHER players get paid they are greedy and overrated.
It was a terrible trade (gave up too much) and the contract offer was terrible (no need for it at that time). Given that you can’t undo those decisions, moving on and cutting Russ was prob the right move. It wasn’t working. Move on and start fixing the organization and roster NOW! If they can’t do that, fire Peyton and Payton.
This administration traded The Merchant of Death Viktor Bout for Britney Griner. Worst trade in the history of trading. My daughter getting a Charizard for a Jigglypuff probably second of all time in non-sports category. She ripped her friend off
@@roarbertbearatheon8565 just one more chance?? If they could give wentz, mayfield & all these randoms chance after chance then they better give Russ more
@@twoglocksforsure…He Has 4 Babies, Dogs…and A Whole LOT Of Mouths To Feed. Not Even To Mention…Two Homes…He May Not Want -Any More ESP. in Denver. They Played Russ DIRTY…PERIOD!!! Dirty Bastards…PAY UP!!! (Maybe Future Had His Hands In The Kitty Jar.) 😮
Last year Russell threw 26 tds with 8 Interceptions, Mahomes threw 27 tds with 14 interceptions, Tua threw 29 tds with 14 interceptions as well.... Sean Payton is clearly the problem
Lions clearly showed it the past few years you need the right owner, GM, coach and players that fit that direction. The fact that Sean Payton and Russ butted heads so much and how much they gave up to aquire Russ shows how disjointed the Broncos are. I get it if you are a coach you want your guy to start, but when Sean Payton took the job he had to have known Wilson was going to be the starter and most likely said that was ok and then changed script afterwards. Broncos just look like a chaotic organization at the moment and generating that level of dead money is an absolute joke. The fact they couldn't shed that contract after giving up that much in draft picks is nuts. Dude should be fired ASAP.
Peyton came in hot and with an EGO, it was NEVER going to work with Wilson because of Peyton's own personal dislike. I'm from Detroit and the Lions are the perfect example, once Billy took a back seat now look at them, almost messed around and got to the Superbowl lol
I'm a Ravens fan and I do believe that the owners spoke and said no to another fully guaranteed contract and they screwd LJ. With that said,The Broncos just threw away 85 mil cause the coach didn't get along with a player. Let that sink in!
LJ is a great player. I think he needs to go spend quality time with Peyton Manning. PM went through the same “struggle “ of having personal accomplishments and running into TB12 every year. LJ needs to make sure that running into Mahomes isn’t becoming a mental block no matter how much bravado he displays
@davidmurillo4490 He is. He's been garbage for his last 3 seasons. 17-27. Last year, he averaged 200 yards a game. 8 games under 200 yards, 1 game under 100 yards. 10 fumbles. 45 sacks.
He played like garbage. Those stats do not reflect his play on the field. Add 10 fumbles to that. Losing record. High number of sacks and led bottom 3 offense in the league last year. He lad at least 1000 less yards than other qbs. Majority of his completions were check downs. Facts. He was terrible. He's 17-27 in his last 3 seasons.
@@Random_Patriot He did all that without a top tier WR, TE, or RB. The offensive line wasn’t all that great either. DEN wasn’t serious about winning anyways because they threatened to bench Russ in the middle of their win streak. They were in the playoff picture and they threatened to bench Russ if he didn’t give back money.
Thank you for the business breakdown! Too many fans have a downright attitude towards players bc of what they are not willing to accept that would be to the players detriment!!!
They went all in and gave a lot for a QB only to not make the playoffs during Russell's tenure and now they are releasing him. The Broncos having $85 in dead cap which is crazy to think. Look how bad that trade turn out with them giving the Seahawks a lot.
As a 40 year bronco fan this is inexcusable. Atleast keep him as a back up worst case or ride it out. Can't take that hit. They were a few close games away from making the playoffs.
Dude Russ is 11-19 only 2 teams have less wins then him.....this Russell wilson experience was a complete disaster......u think Andy Ried and Mahomes look at us a threat....and who pays $39 million for a back up......come on now
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I still don’t fully understand this. You’re gonna pay him the next 2 years whether he’s on your team or not. Why not draft a guy and keep Russ for 2 years then cut him?
Yup, I wont give any bonus viewership on Thursday Football Night, Friday Football Night, and even Saturday Night Football...except when my team is in it (Sat is def taped watch only as I'm busy on Sat, tho). Only Sunday Football Night is my relaxing time to watch when my team is on
@@allenwinters8103 mahomes overrated, with Russell he beat mahomes so now that he doesn't have Russ he won't get passed Andy Reid, forget about mahomes
As a seahawks fan i have been sayin the same thing as Ocho for 2 years. Rus is startin to get his swag back u dnt let him go now. He was winning at the end of the season.
Beat GB, KC, Minn, Buffalo, and Cleveland. I think Payton got scared he wouldn't be able to dump him. It would explain the stupid play calls and the fracas in Detroit.
@disqusrubbish5467 we didn't beat Buffalo, Bills beat themselves with 12 men on the field on the last play. Browns and Vikings had 3rd string QB's. Those wins were nothing to write home about. - Bronco fan here
How Keith? Russ is a two consecutive Superbowl winning QB. He's not at the decline of his career and is still active. With the right time and support could have made the playoffs and been a real contender. He's not a magician. The Browns don't have a good GM, they have a new coach who isn't very good and new ownership. So, it seems like Russ if anything won in a bad situation. He didn't get over go look at the record. Did you watch last season? This is extremely poor management and strategy from the Broncos.
Yea, but just remember Keith, Russell Wilson beat Patrick Mahomes last year. Everyone thought that was a fluke. Then Russ beat Miles Garrett and 1# NFL defensive. So let be honest even a good quarterback would have a hard time beating those two teams.
Most fans don’t understand the business. You can tell by the comments here and social media. As if Russ Wilson's money came out of their little paycheck. Meanwhile, Peyton is one of the highest paid coach at 19M a year.
Russ Wilson came to Colorado talking about "Is not whether or not we're gonna win a Superbowl, it's more like how many Superbowls are we gonna win" For the amount of money he was making he was not delivering.
It was two years with a new head coach for both years, be smart. It’s quite literally Sean Payton and the Paton, and they’re starting back over and took the cap hit fully aware that they didn’t have the means to do so.
Shannon said the same thing I said about Russell Wilson. It was a business decision to bench him. It was a business decision for him to walk away with as much money as you can. He got the W at the end of the day. The broncos will feel this for the next 2 seasons and hope they learned a lesson
Rumors are coming out that the reason sean Payton was going off on Russell Wilson is to bait him into an argument, so if he would have responded back to sean Payton, then the team could have suspended Russell Wilson with conduct detrimental to the team which would have void his contract. So, since Russell Wilson didn't respond, the broncos have to pay him his full contract.
I just watched Russ interview with Brandon, I am an Athlete; best interview ever, no negativity or shade thrown on anyone. So refreshing. I got to see Russ upclosed and delightful.
I'm glad Russell looked for his best interest........not the owner....... The Sean Payton should of been fired for acting out on Russell and the GM should get fired too...... Russell should go to the Steelers cause both Tomlin and Russell are Virginia guys.
We miss you on Undisputed Shannon and your analogies and remember you as a Bronco! Great watching your content! I totally agree with Chad Johnson's perspective on needing to give Russell more time. Sean Payton wasn't having it though.
I’m a Raider fan, always have been always will be, played against and watched this man kick our ass for years. I have so much respect for him as a player and person and what he says and reps even as a Raider fan. Love this show and watching!! Hope they see this comment.
Russ wanted to cook. He said he was 'limitless'. We all watched Tom Brady take the Bucs to a Super Bowl win in one year and DangeRuss thought he was on that level. Ooops!!
Russ was garbage. Averaged 200 yards a game. 11-19 record in Denver. In 2023, 10 fumbles, 8 games with under 200 yards. 1 game with under 100 yards. 45 sacks in 2023.
Russ still played top tier last season. He didn't play defense to lose by 70 points. ATL Falcons would be the best pic. He would instantly be the best QB in the NFC South. Plus that's his wifey's town. Perfect match 💪🏽
Top tier? Not at all. He wasn’t terrible but he wasn’t what his contract was paying him. But that was on the Broncos for giving him that extension. If anyone has been watching Seattle games prior, he hasn’t been great in a few years. Seattle pulled the wallet inspector trick on the Broncos. lol….
He only needs to manage games, not be Superman…ATL has all the offensive weapons he needs…don’t waste all of that money on Cousins…use that money to sure up the defense…use the 8th pick in the draft on the best available quarterback and let him learn from Russell…that’s the best case scenario
I’m happy that the players of old days have a platform to share and speak out the truth so we can get a fair chance to give our opinions and judgements about the players and teams because growing up we never had this kind of information
It’s not like the Walton-Penner family group and Sean Payton picked Russell Wilson as their QB for that price in the first place. That was after the Walton’s brought the team, when they got into this mess from the previous family right? So Greg Penner/ Rob Walton and everyone else have no loyalty to Russell. Now they can start over from scratch and make their impact as the new owners of the Denver Broncos. George Paton still somehow has a job though… could be his final year as the GM if they have another failed season. Again Paton was hired under the previous owners. Greg Penner can literally just fire him for giving Russell that contract in the first place and setting the franchise back for years.
Tom brady is so great he made nfl owners believe all you need to do is bring in a big name Vet and youll win in year 1. Broncos fell for it, jets fell for it.
These guys are successful, because they don’t clickbait us to death. Just provide info, and make it fun. This is better than Sportcenter, and 20 other shows combined.
But the Rodgers dead cap ain’t the size of this tho? Jesus! This is like 35% of ur cap space. That’s a shitload of spaces. With that much money, u can have like 4-5 meaningful plyrs on ur goddamn team. They can even be starters lol.
Unc is wrong on this one. If Russ didn't cost so much he wouldn't be in this position. He wouldn't have been judged so harshly for his play. If a QB is paid like a middle of the pack QB, and gives middle of the pack performances, they are more secure. He was paid as a top guy, and performed like a lower third guy
85 mi is like 8 dollars to their new ownership. Cap has risen almost every year so long term they’ll be fine. They just need to hire a competent front office
@@jditrev exactly.... Draft the right QB on a rookie deal it's like the Russ money will never be missed. BUT they def better get that part right moving forward.
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124 million for two years. Not bad work if you can get it.
I coulda got it. I turned down that job 3 years ago actually I didn’t like the hours.
@@Dev-In-Denver123Facts, possible Sunday, Monday, and Thursday nights too. Told em I don’t do second shift
NASA doesn’t have anything on Wilson😳
and the last two games off !
Broncos country...let's ride! 🤣
@@Dev-In-Denver123 It was nasty work. LMAOOOO
Thanks Shannon for allowing Chad to finish his thoughts, great improvement.
I also noticed he’s letting Ocho finish his thoughts and Ocho is more aggressive with his opinions. I enjoy the progression of this podcast!
@@NaturalVeganLoveyeah but ocho really doesn’t know what hes saying half the time and is just speaking before even thinking.. hes funny and has good knowledge of the game but as far as actually diving into sports topics it’s usually hard to listen bc he either doesn’t really understand how things work or is ignorant or naive on the subject
@@kam_12_ EXACTLY!
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Shannon too used to having to not get spoken over by Skip
This wouldn't have happened if Russ just gave the ball to lynch
1000% accurate!! I will never forget that day lol
Right, if ever there was a time the QB should change the play that was called that was it. But Pete and Russ were hating on Lynch they didn't want him to get the MVP
@@kgkg4118 It was not russ decision to make. They did not want both men to be the face of the season that year. The set was already fixed for Tom Brady to be the ultimate hero for that season.
right?
lol. he still would have got old. that was 10 years ago.
I’m still trying to understand how the GM still has a job today? Between the trade, extension and Hackett. That’s three strikes. He should have followed Russ out the door.
He’s the owners drug connect, the only thing that makes sense. They both get high together and then do wild shit
@@JspekRexif the weed man supplying the good stuff gotta keep em but he starting to fuck with his money lol
Fo'realz up top fumbled the ball, the bag & their integrity!
Is he the same GM from when they won the superbowl? Because this strategy worked with Peyton.
No.
I know that long pause was a glitch but it was accurate for the situation. lol
Deadass 😂 i waiting for a one liner
Lol. For a sec I thought that was his actual reaction. Silence.
Yess lol
SAME!!! That was some EPIC timing 😂🤘
That was all of ours genuine reaction seeing that trade
Millionaires should never give billionaires a discount. Cause when it’s time to get rid of you they’ll always do what’s best for the team. Ain’t no loyalty in professional sports
If you going in to business expecting loyalty you’ll never be a billionaire 🤣 business is business .
Fans are easily manipulated towards the players the fans are the biggest marks
@@meld1817fans actually hate the players and always complain that they get paid too much money. Don't forget that it doesn't matter how much they get paid they are still workers just like me and you.
ain't my money either way. Funny how when SOME players get paid they should get their money. When OTHER players get paid they are greedy and overrated.
While I agree with you what does the Broncos owner have to be loyal about with Russel? Absolutely nothing.
Sean Payton is the Doc Rivers of the NFL.
Facts
how.
FACTS!!!
Valid
Damn you right 😂😂
I didn't want Ocho to cry, so I subscribed. 😢 You guys are the best duo in sports podcasting & add Gil, too. Untouchable.
Great job guys.
It is what it is
Shannon is right that players should do what's in their best interest. I will never understand why sports fans cap for billionaires
Because they think the billionaire’s interest is aligned with theirs
You can say that but also need to acknowledge fans fund this whole operation.
@@GeorgeL.3 and?
@@GeorgeL.3What does that have anything to do with my comment
@@GeorgeL.3actually advertising and corporate partnerships dollars funds the NFL. Fan dollars is a small part of it these days
Ocho nailed it. The owners don’t know football. They know business. Cant buy a Super Bowl. Gota win it
You are totally correct.
Bronco ownership wasting so much money that they're making congress blush.
Underrated comment lol
My Cowboys are worse 😂😂😂
It was a terrible trade (gave up too much) and the contract offer was terrible (no need for it at that time). Given that you can’t undo those decisions, moving on and cutting Russ was prob the right move. It wasn’t working. Move on and start fixing the organization and roster NOW! If they can’t do that, fire Peyton and Payton.
This administration traded The Merchant of Death Viktor Bout for Britney Griner. Worst trade in the history of trading. My daughter getting a Charizard for a Jigglypuff probably second of all time in non-sports category. She ripped her friend off
Have you seen the prices in Walmart lately?
Russ got his money good for him.
He was a consummate professional too. I hope he gets one more chance on a team
@@roarbertbearatheon8565 just one more chance?? If they could give wentz, mayfield & all these randoms chance after chance then they better give Russ more
Yea, I’m glad when the players get paid.
*Ciara got his money😂😂🙏🏽
@@twoglocksforsure…He Has 4 Babies, Dogs…and A Whole LOT Of Mouths To Feed. Not Even To Mention…Two Homes…He May Not Want -Any More ESP. in Denver. They Played Russ DIRTY…PERIOD!!! Dirty Bastards…PAY UP!!! (Maybe Future Had His Hands In The Kitty Jar.) 😮
"his releasal" - Shannon Sharpe
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Kendrick Perkins would be proud.
He really just sat and made up a word😂
SAS starting to rub off Unc😂
Last year Russell threw 26 tds with 8 Interceptions, Mahomes threw 27 tds with 14 interceptions, Tua threw 29 tds with 14 interceptions as well.... Sean Payton is clearly the problem
Russell played in a very sub par offense, he performed well w the pieces around him for what is was
Russ also had 10 fumbles and 1000 less yards and a losing record.
You clearly didn't watch any of the games. Russ was terrible.
in what planet is 26tds to 8 interceptions terrible@@Random_Patriot
Lions clearly showed it the past few years you need the right owner, GM, coach and players that fit that direction. The fact that Sean Payton and Russ butted heads so much and how much they gave up to aquire Russ shows how disjointed the Broncos are. I get it if you are a coach you want your guy to start, but when Sean Payton took the job he had to have known Wilson was going to be the starter and most likely said that was ok and then changed script afterwards. Broncos just look like a chaotic organization at the moment and generating that level of dead money is an absolute joke. The fact they couldn't shed that contract after giving up that much in draft picks is nuts. Dude should be fired ASAP.
Peyton came in hot and with an EGO, it was NEVER going to work with Wilson because of Peyton's own personal dislike. I'm from Detroit and the Lions are the perfect example, once Billy took a back seat now look at them, almost messed around and got to the Superbowl lol
Dam Shannon dropping knowledge
Per usual
I wear my sunglasses at night 😂 put yah stunna frames on Chad giving me early 2000 vibes 😂
Sean Payton Forced Russ out 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
And the Bronco fans thank him for it.
@@Random_Patriotthey shouldn’t
@ej8961 Well, we do thank him. We died a little inside every week with Russ as our QB.
@@Random_Patriot you guys are going to be poverty for the next decade because Sean Peyton forced him out and you wr core is dawg
I love Ocho. He never talks bad about ANYONE. Always positive.
You really don't listen to the pod he was ready to fight Mike Epps a few weeks ago lol
Unc saying how the Owners are actually selfish but makes it seem like the players are is so facts💯…
"If i tell you a duck smokes cigarettes." 😂😂😂😂
Ima start writing these down like Ocho 😂 I want my daughters to say “my daddy used to always say…” 😂
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Get Daffy Duck a lighter
@@diegotheyorkie1420you crazy lol😂😅
15:10 😭😂😂💀 Unc was about to say “Ocho, they call you crazy for another reason” 😂😭💀
Let’s all sign a petition to get the new word “Releasal “ in the NFL dictionary.
Brilliant!
Ocho take was correct exactly on point.
I'm a Ravens fan and I do believe that the owners spoke and said no to another fully guaranteed contract and they screwd LJ. With that said,The Broncos just threw away 85 mil cause the coach didn't get along with a player. Let that sink in!
Nah they just didn’t want to pay him the other money they would have to owe if they kept him
LJ is a great player. I think he needs to go spend quality time with Peyton Manning. PM went through the same “struggle “ of having personal accomplishments and running into TB12 every year.
LJ needs to make sure that running into Mahomes isn’t becoming a mental block no matter how much bravado he displays
No we threw away 85 mil because Russ is garbage.
@@Random_Patriot He's a steeler now so I really hope so.
@davidmurillo4490 He is. He's been garbage for his last 3 seasons. 17-27. Last year, he averaged 200 yards a game. 8 games under 200 yards, 1 game under 100 yards. 10 fumbles. 45 sacks.
Good job on your clean speech today, Ocho. I appreciate it.
Fam nobody touching unc and these one liners!
Russ was 6 in passer rating had 26TD 8int despite everything DEN did to him. Russ played like a top 10 QB he’ll find a starting job
But he has one glaring flaw.....he doesn't fit in Sean Payton's system quick enough. He's no Brees in Payton's eyes, tho.
He didn’t play to the money he was paid
He played like garbage. Those stats do not reflect his play on the field. Add 10 fumbles to that. Losing record. High number of sacks and led bottom 3 offense in the league last year. He lad at least 1000 less yards than other qbs. Majority of his completions were check downs. Facts. He was terrible. He's 17-27 in his last 3 seasons.
@@Random_Patriot He did all that without a top tier WR, TE, or RB. The offensive line wasn’t all that great either. DEN wasn’t serious about winning anyways because they threatened to bench Russ in the middle of their win streak. They were in the playoff picture and they threatened to bench Russ if he didn’t give back money.
Shoutout to Russell Wilson doing good Business… Get that 💼
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Steelers need to get on this. Russ wasn't terrible last year. He def better than Pickett and he cheap now. Sean Peyton all out of excuses now.
Thank you for the business breakdown! Too many fans have a downright attitude towards players bc of what they are not willing to accept that would be to the players detriment!!!
I love watching Shannon Sharpe. His confidence, the way he carries himself, and the moves he is making, makes him a boss.
They went all in and gave a lot for a QB only to not make the playoffs during Russell's tenure and now they are releasing him. The Broncos having $85 in dead cap which is crazy to think. Look how bad that trade turn out with them giving the Seahawks a lot.
As a 40 year bronco fan this is inexcusable. Atleast keep him as a back up worst case or ride it out. Can't take that hit. They were a few close games away from making the playoffs.
They were a real defensive coordinator away from the playoffs
@@roarbertbearatheon8565 the win streak was on the back of the defense and getting turnovers lol.
They were also a few games away from being worse. Every team is like that in a league of parity. Almost winning doesn’t mean anything.
This hurt but you have to do this. Rip the band aid off. Honestly who cares if you lose Wilson you have Sean Payton!!
Dude Russ is 11-19 only 2 teams have less wins then him.....this Russell wilson experience was a complete disaster......u think Andy Ried and Mahomes look at us a threat....and who pays $39 million for a back up......come on now
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I still don’t fully understand this. You’re gonna pay him the next 2 years whether he’s on your team or not. Why not draft a guy and keep Russ for 2 years then cut him?
More money becomes guaranteed if they kept him.
They saved almost another $40 mil by releasing him.
Viewership is the only thing I give the NFL. And that's getting less and less as I get older.
Are they not breaking the viewership records each season?
Yup, I wont give any bonus viewership on Thursday Football Night, Friday Football Night, and even Saturday Night Football...except when my team is in it (Sat is def taped watch only as I'm busy on Sat, tho). Only Sunday Football Night is my relaxing time to watch when my team is on
Shannon thought Chad was just waiting to talk 😂😂😂 He was frozen Unk
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Shannon speaking truth about losing and still raising prices and people still showing up. How about them cowboys? 😂
12-5 is losing I rather have that than 7-10
Sean Payton better make the broncos Super Bowl favorite. $85 million dead cap for two years. His next qb better be Tom Brady times 100.
The Broncos are dead for the next decade. Payton will get fired before they win a playoff game.
He can't not with mahommes in that division
@@allenwinters8103 mahomes overrated, with Russell he beat mahomes so now that he doesn't have Russ he won't get passed Andy Reid, forget about mahomes
There's no way he can do that when they're taking a cap hit like that. They should've just kept him at least to save money. This was crazy.
Won’t happen
As a seahawks fan i have been sayin the same thing as Ocho for 2 years. Rus is startin to get his swag back u dnt let him go now. He was winning at the end of the season.
Beat GB, KC, Minn, Buffalo, and Cleveland. I think Payton got scared he wouldn't be able to dump him. It would explain the stupid play calls and the fracas in Detroit.
@disqusrubbish5467 we didn't beat Buffalo, Bills beat themselves with 12 men on the field on the last play. Browns and Vikings had 3rd string QB's. Those wins were nothing to write home about.
- Bronco fan here
Agree.
Russ beat kc so he my top QB right now other than manning
@@jamarstewart5823 Sean Payton beat KC after 2 tries.
Took Russ 8 tries.... who really did it??? Right.
I'm happy as hell for Russ, take the money, and go get more.
124 mil for two years damn Russ got over
How Keith? Russ is a two consecutive Superbowl winning QB. He's not at the decline of his career and is still active. With the right time and support could have made the playoffs and been a real contender. He's not a magician. The Browns don't have a good GM, they have a new coach who isn't very good and new ownership. So, it seems like Russ if anything won in a bad situation. He didn't get over go look at the record. Did you watch last season? This is extremely poor management and strategy from the Broncos.
Yea, but just remember Keith, Russell Wilson beat Patrick Mahomes last year. Everyone thought that was a fluke. Then Russ beat Miles Garrett and 1# NFL defensive. So let be honest even a good quarterback would have a hard time beating those two teams.
Most fans don’t understand the business. You can tell by the comments here and social media. As if Russ Wilson's money came out of their little paycheck. Meanwhile, Peyton is one of the highest paid coach at 19M a year.
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These franchises have the money dont think they don't break they bank
It’s doesn’t matter how money you have if you only spend a certain amount genius, that’s why it’s called a cap for a reason
Fans care because too much cap on just one guy in a team game means the team is subpar at every other position
True, if a team is bout that life, they'll spend the money and pay the penalty for going over the cap.
A win for Russ; is a good thing that he didn't broke down during the pressure and re-negociated the deal.
Don't forget that the Ravens were the original Browns in Cleveland.
Don't forget the Rams were originally from Cleveland.
Don’t forget the Indianapolis colts are the original Baltimore Colts
Thanks Art Go Ravens
Russ Wilson came to Colorado talking about "Is not whether or not we're gonna win a Superbowl, it's more like how many Superbowls are we gonna win" For the amount of money he was making he was not delivering.
So was the owners lol they cared more about that shit coach lol
It was two years with a new head coach for both years, be smart. It’s quite literally Sean Payton and the Paton, and they’re starting back over and took the cap hit fully aware that they didn’t have the means to do so.
If Russ can do it again. That would be awesome
Shannon said the same thing I said about Russell Wilson. It was a business decision to bench him. It was a business decision for him to walk away with as much money as you can. He got the W at the end of the day. The broncos will feel this for the next 2 seasons and hope they learned a lesson
Rumors are coming out that the reason sean Payton was going off on Russell Wilson is to bait him into an argument, so if he would have responded back to sean Payton, then the team could have suspended Russell Wilson with conduct detrimental to the team which would have void his contract. So, since Russell Wilson didn't respond, the broncos have to pay him his full contract.
I only believe this because it's Sean "Bounty Gate" Payton. That sounds like the kind of shit he'd pull
Rumor has it, Russ can't comprehend. What's your source?
Rumors are absolutely stupid. Would not have done shit to his contract.
@roarbertbearatheon8565 very true
Unc you legit Prince Albert in a can old old school….💪🏾❤️
Ocho must be in a super 8. Cuz he struggling with that WiFi tonight
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Tom Bodet gonna keep the light on for ya
Ocho struggle all the time
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I just watched Russ interview with Brandon, I am an Athlete; best interview ever, no negativity or shade thrown on anyone.
So refreshing. I got to see Russ upclosed and delightful.
I would love to see Russ in Pittsburgh with Tomlin
fax especially since fields prolly wont be coming anymore i’d definitely welcome russ. kenny cannot hinder this team any longer with his trash play
Nah Pittsburgh racist af I hate it here
Russ is lightskin so he should be alright@@OglocbabyOgloc
I will but as a Raven fan we have enough QBs and good teams to deal with already
@@OglocbabyOgloc shit so is Denver 😂
What Unk and Ocho are saying is advice that goes for anyone with a job in this world.
I'm glad Russell looked for his best interest........not the owner....... The Sean Payton should of been fired for acting out on Russell and the GM should get fired too...... Russell should go to the Steelers cause both Tomlin and Russell are Virginia guys.
Shannon made a hell of a point. Teams will do what's best for them and payers have to what's in your best interest
Would love it if Russ goes back to Seattle and Denver have to pay him. 😂
We miss you on Undisputed Shannon and your analogies and remember you as a Bronco! Great watching your content! I totally agree with Chad Johnson's perspective on needing to give Russell more time. Sean Payton wasn't having it though.
You could tell Shannon dressed him himself today, he ain't messing with them stylists rn 😂
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I’m a Raider fan, always have been always will be, played against and watched this man kick our ass for years. I have so much respect for him as a player and person and what he says and reps even as a Raider fan. Love this show and watching!! Hope they see this comment.
“Benson and Hedges”🤣😂🤣😂🤣💀
When that ash dropped on ocho 😅he was like ouch😂
Russell Wilson was under duress the entire time in Denver. I feel like he was disrespected the entire time he can do better somewhere else
Russ wanted to cook. He said he was 'limitless'. We all watched Tom Brady take the Bucs to a Super Bowl win in one year and DangeRuss thought he was on that level. Ooops!!
Russ was garbage. Averaged 200 yards a game. 11-19 record in Denver. In 2023, 10 fumbles, 8 games with under 200 yards. 1 game with under 100 yards. 45 sacks in 2023.
WOW!! As a fan of the sport, I've had speculations of the NFL and how they move.
This has been an educational moment for me.
Russ still played top tier last season. He didn't play defense to lose by 70 points. ATL Falcons would be the best pic. He would instantly be the best QB in the NFC South. Plus that's his wifey's town. Perfect match 💪🏽
Top tier? Not at all. He wasn’t terrible but he wasn’t what his contract was paying him. But that was on the Broncos for giving him that extension. If anyone has been watching Seattle games prior, he hasn’t been great in a few years. Seattle pulled the wallet inspector trick on the Broncos. lol….
He only needs to manage games, not be Superman…ATL has all the offensive weapons he needs…don’t waste all of that money on Cousins…use that money to sure up the defense…use the 8th pick in the draft on the best available quarterback and let him learn from Russell…that’s the best case scenario
@@troystrong8041ATLANTA makes more sense than Pittsburgh
@@troystrong8041he was getting paid to be superman. You can get a game manager for much cheaper and afford a good team around him.
“Duck smoking Benson and Hedges cigarettes 🚬 “ I love Shannon 😂😂
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I’m happy that the players of old days have a platform to share and speak out the truth so we can get a fair chance to give our opinions and judgements about the players and teams because growing up we never had this kind of information
It’s not like the Walton-Penner family group and Sean Payton picked Russell Wilson as their QB for that price in the first place. That was after the Walton’s brought the team, when they got into this mess from the previous family right?
So Greg Penner/ Rob Walton and everyone else have no loyalty to Russell. Now they can start over from scratch and make their impact as the new owners of the Denver Broncos.
George Paton still somehow has a job though… could be his final year as the GM if they have another failed season. Again Paton was hired under the previous owners. Greg Penner can literally just fire him for giving Russell that contract in the first place and setting the franchise back for years.
Tom brady is so great he made nfl owners believe all you need to do is bring in a big name Vet and youll win in year 1. Broncos fell for it, jets fell for it.
the bucs roster particularly the defense was stacked
I like the comradarie and professionalism amongst you two during these talks.
Talk that business Unc & Ocho😤
Chad was totally ignored when he said Pittsburgh...wowwww
That's a vibe, Shannon! GREAT ANALOGY!
No cap bigger than NIGHTCAP! love y’all🎉
I love this podcast. I'm learning so much about football and what goes on behind the scenes through these conversations.
Way to get that bread Russ. When they ask Russ to take a pay cut he didn’t fold like those other clowns.
You're man Chad Johnson almost set himself on fire😂😂😂😂😂😂
These guys are successful, because they don’t clickbait us to death. Just provide info, and make it fun.
This is better than Sportcenter, and 20 other shows combined.
the qb salaries are getting out of hand
I absolutely agree and had the same thought about Pittsburgh Steelers taking Russell Wilson!
Chad Johnson with the Super Eagle kit!
Man's drip game is low key legendary 🧐
Church!!!!!!!!!Ocho!!!!! Tabernacle!!!!I couldn't Typeit fast enough !😂
Dam Ocho called it…
As a packers fan AND owner, we ate the Rodgers dead cap and it worked out all right for us!🤷🏼♂️
But the Rodgers dead cap ain’t the size of this tho? Jesus! This is like 35% of ur cap space. That’s a shitload of spaces. With that much money, u can have like 4-5 meaningful plyrs on ur goddamn team. They can even be starters lol.
Unc is wrong on this one. If Russ didn't cost so much he wouldn't be in this position. He wouldn't have been judged so harshly for his play. If a QB is paid like a middle of the pack QB, and gives middle of the pack performances, they are more secure. He was paid as a top guy, and performed like a lower third guy
Right on
The GM and ownership of the broncos made the offer to Russ - they could’ve offered less but they didn’t so that’s a Bronco Loss
@@douglassfitch1746 You're right, but he had a no trade clause. So any team that wanted him was gonna have to pay up
I don’t watch football. But I do love this duo and Russ’ family so here I am in full support. ❤
Love that Chads smoke alarm is chirping 😂😂😂
The best NFL chat show bar none.
Players please don't give no discount
Depends on the player and the team. Players can win championships and win more money off the field because of the discount
Broncos will never financially recover from this
85 mi is like 8 dollars to their new ownership. Cap has risen almost every year so long term they’ll be fine. They just need to hire a competent front office
@@jditrev exactly.... Draft the right QB on a rookie deal it's like the Russ money will never be missed. BUT they def better get that part right moving forward.
Walmart has Billions so….
Y’all clearly don’t get the joke 🤦🏽♂️
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Brother Shannon. You got it. Hope the fans and players listen to you. The ticket prices ain’t going down
I love it cause y’all keep it real!!!
The benson & hedges menthols lmao
I'm 52yrs the saying is "If I tell you a 🦆 can pull a 🚛 you STFU and hook it up! 😂😂
I thought that came from Martin.
😭 Jerome
Yo Unc just created a word releasle 🤣
I agree with what Shannon said on First Take
The Benson &Hedges took me all the way out..😂😂😂😂
Ocho, send me a P.O. Box number so I can send you a torch lighter😂😂😂