"The System DOESN'T Work And The Culture Is Awful!" Former NHS Chair SLAMS Service
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2024
- Fewer than one in four people are satisfied with the NHS, the lowest level since records began 40 years ago, according to a major poll.
Poor access to GPs, long waits for hospital treatment, staff shortages and a lack of government funding were among the main reasons for dissatisfaction, the British Social Attitudes survey found.
The study, of 3,374 people in England, Wales and Scotland, is seen as the gold-standard test of how people feel about the NHS.
TalkTV's Kevin O'Sullivan and Alex Phillips are joined by former NHS chair Martin Gower, who insists the current system ‘doesn't work' and needs to be 'revitalised.’
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The majority of NHS staff are simply lazy - my father died recently so I spent hours in the hospital - nurses, doctors, all staff are damn lazy - they stand about chatting with each other, eat crisps and drink cans of coke on wards and seem to do the bare minimum required. Poor staff and poor training.
And you can't point the finger at certain groups who are particularly guilty, lest they suck their teeth at you.
Some are also clearly negligent and incompetent, get rid of those ones first. Where are the performance reviews, should be every 3 months, again at 6 months and again in a year.
Utter rubbish. I worked on an orthopedic ward for 15 years. Never stopped from beginning to end of my shift. The patients and relatives often commented on my hard work. So don't generalise, there's lazeiness in all proffesions.
In my experience of being in and out of hospitals for various reasons over some years I’ve observed that NOTHING is done quickly despite the protestations that they are being run into the ground…..
@@gumboson1974 You clearly didn't read my comment. I did not say all staff, I said the majority. You are clearly the exception - congrats for blowing ur own trumpet, im sure you have problems to find hats that fit you.
Only in Crisis because people are coming into the country & getting seen straight away anybody born & Bred here has to wait months for an appointment the country is a fucking joke
Doctors are from abroad cheap. Your own doctors chasing private money in UAE US etc
Worked in a hospital for 5 years..... they could literally make the mafia blush.
True. Nepotism and bullying like I had never experienced until working in NHS.
Also, they are adequately funded but the management is useless.
The NHS will never get better and will get much worse unless we limit immigration.
7million new GP registations from migrants since 2012. Everyone ignores the vast elephant in the room - you can’t increase your population by a quarter in 25 years from, mainly, impoverished countries and not have the public services buckle under the strain.
@@gilly5094 Both of you are spot on.
The guy makes a lot of sense. It's the people in charge of spending money that are the problem not the actual NHS. Whoever wasted all that money on diversity and also about eating easter eggs should be sacked immediately.
It needs the NHS and those in it to see stop thinking it's fantastic and they're untouchable and realise it's not, but it's too arrogant to do so. That's a massive problem that needs to be dealt with.
It was in crisis from the moment Blair made nhs into trusts as for covid what happened was a lot of nhs staff did moonlighting work in the private sector still are
Moonlighting when they wer not making TicTok videos in all those empty hospitals.
I work for the NHS in clerical work and maintainance. Many times I have been fixing equipment in a ward, seen patients press the buzzer next to their bed, and the alarm goes off for 15 minutes before any nurse responds.
You also simply cannot get an appointment with them. I was waiting 6 months for an autism assessment before deciding to go private. I was told that the first stage had a 2 year waiting list and the second stage had a 1 year waiting list! Once I went private I got the full assessment done within 2 weeks.
did they train you for that or did you already have skills fixing stuff?
Good job looking out for yourself.
@@Withnail1969The hospital's IT services department trained me. However, there is always some sort of problem when it comes to them ordering new equipment I need, so I am sometimes unable to fix things for ages. Even simple things such as batteries.
@@pricelesschess i will have to look into it, i wouldnt mind fixing computers
The work culture itself in public institutions is rarely one that is worth copying for others.
I was fast tracked for a CT scan on my head because my GP suspects I have cancer of the head and neck.
Had scan on 30th Jan. Supposed to get results 28 days at the outside according to NHS website on turnaround times, I've been waiting 7 weeks.
Lets suggest that we are eventually required to pay for a visit to the GP or at A&E, will that mean that we won't have to pay our national insurance? I think not, how else will they pay these non medical staff.
Are they selling rainbow flags yet.
I was in hospital recently for an operation. While I waited on the ward, I noticed new chairs being delivered to that ward. I also noticed 2 managers overseeing the whole procedure, 6 men bringing new chairs and taking away the old. That’s 8 people for that procedure, so I asked myself....how many does it take to change a light bulb?????
My sister is a retired nurse, and probably has enough material on this "awful culture" to fill a book. After what I've heard, if I had a child that became a NHS manager I'd disown them and change my name!
The NHS is failing because it is overwhelmed. It also needs a complete review of salaries and bonuses, top to bottom. Medical supply waste needs investigation also, but primarily it is simply overwhelmed, hence the long waiting times, ERs in chaos, lack of doctors etc. I would say it has been a problem treating all and sundry, legal or illegal, for the past 15 years. You know the solution.
The NHS needs more receptionists, preferably with rudeness and ignorance training provided by working for a year or two in a local doctor's surgery, then they will easily deflect patient queries. This, along with the introduction of record numbers of higher pay grade Diversity Officers will ensure that every member of the remaining staff will feel equally blessed to be employed in such a fine well balanced organisation. It may lead to record deaths but, hey, the service will be wonderfully fair.
I worked in a large teaching hospital in London I the early 1990s....the laziness and petty thieving was endemic. There were some dedicated staff but they were almost banging their heads against a wall in frustration. My nephew was in a room near the nurses station and we witnessed a massive petty public argument between a nurse and a doctor until my nephew pressed his emergency buzzer to shut them up...
Perhaps OUR NHS needs treatment, but I would have thought that serious illness including those in pain would have priority and should be first in line for treatment.
Is this the case today one wonders?
Two years i waited to see a specialist recently terrible i saw a rude specialist he was horrid he was abrasive and impatient and lacked empathy
Mis-management comes to mind especially when one suspects the it will be the managers who benefit if privatisation of the NHS goes ahead.
When established, the NHS worked. The nation paid into the NHS and we could expect the care we required. Today the NHS in being used by too many who have never contributed. You cannot use a gym or play a round of golf unless you are a member or pay a visitor or day rate, ie you contribute to the club! So why is the NHS different in this respect. If I am sick or injured overseas, I require health insurance before I get the treatment I require. In the UK even a tourist can expect to be given treatment in the event of emergency. Thousands of immigrants are also given treatment, none of whom have contributed to the NHS. As for COVID, why is this still an excuse for the abysmal GP performance to date?
I had to visit the A&E with a suspect hernia, I was in pain which continues to this day. After X-ray and an ultrasound, I was sent home as there was not a doctor to diagnose my ailments. 2 days later I received a call informing me that I did not have a hernia, which is good to learn. However I informed the caller I was still with pain and discomfort so can I expect a follow up to diagnose my ailments. No, I was told to visit my GP and make an appointment. This would be a minimum of 3 weeks and then I can have a phone chat with a doctor!! What can a doctor diagnose over the phone? The sooner the uk health system goes to an insurance based system the better it will be for those who have contributed and are willing and able to pay for their care. I for one would welcome that. The NHS is broken.
"If I am sick or injured overseas, I require health insurance before I get the treatment I require." - Not quite, it depends where overseas. There are places where you get emergency treatment first but of course pay the costs afterwards. And, did you know that immigrants have to pay IHS fees (in addition to NI) to get a UK visa? That is International Health Surcharge (about 1,000 pounds per year per person) plus the usual NI payments.
Couldn't agree more with anyone, than I can with this guy!
At an appointment in January, we waited for 45 mins for a group of consultants to finish a meeting before our appointment, so did twenty other people. There were six members of staff all waiting the same amount of time not doing anthing, all that time wasted. Also many staff are lazy, my father died because he fell trying to get the toilet, he fell broke his hip an fractured his skull, and every time we visted the nurses were at the nurses station chattting, only the health care assiatnts did any work, the obsession with nursung degrees means they won't get their hands dirty. They also lie, according to their records this only happended two times in a year, in a major hospital, yet the next week the mother of a friend of ours fell also, what a coincidence we knew both of them. Then there is the semi retired nonsense, if you are no longer fit for ward duty, you get am admin job, this might have been a kindness when they actually lifted people, but as they don't now, it's not needed, and you get the waste of a fully qualified nurse, weighing people or walking records around.
Is it because being a doctor or a nurse is now just a job? Whereas in the past the people who filled these roles had a calling?
No, it's because there treated like dirt by the public and there managers. They've been ground down and the results are now evident.
My mother started nursing in the 1950s when wards were run by nurse sisters. She never came across one that tolerated laziness or sloppiness of Any description. They ran a tight ship. You wouldn’t have survived if you weren’t dedicated
NHS =NO HELP SORRY.
I have a question -- if we raise TAX, and double the spending on the NHS, will the NHS become twice as good?
No the funding issue is a red herring, it needs to be significantly more efficient and increase the number of clinical staff and reduce the number of non clinical staff.
If it did then that would make it half as good as it should be.
Well spoken,.
The medical staff have been telling us that as part of their strikes for a long period. It needs a larger change than most politicians have the capacity to achieve.
I willing pay £70 to take my cat to see a veterinary nurse, not even the vet. In New Zealand, it's much more than a tenner to see a doctor but you decide what time and what day you see the doctor not some receptionist goalkeeper.
The NHS is not free as some people would believe . We pay in to it through our taxes and National health insurance contributions. It`s only free to foreigners and scroungers.
Wasn't it the Labour Party that originally put in the quango's to find out what had to change. Didn't a lot of those people start companies and become sub-contractors to the NHS?
To many managers
University educated staff. Look there
Problems: bloated, mostly medically unqualified hospital management teams, supported by politically correct 'diverse' etc. incentives; lack of vocation, particularly amongst nursing staff; postcode lottery re services; GPs working fewer hours (marking time pending early retirement on generous, ring-fenced pensions, their own and their families' future health concerns automatically taken care of); junior doctors seen whooping it up on the picket line, demonstrating scant concern for hospital patients they profess to care so much about. Regarding private treatment: waiting times and treatment increasingly longer, in my own case way more than four months despite an earlier NHS consultant pronouncing surgery 'urgent'. Advice: stay near a major city if seeking healthcare, also seek employment offering medical insurance as part of package. All the foregoing personally experienced.
NHS is the last bastion of socialism. My experience of the local NHS is generally positive. Conversely, there are no NHS Dentists and waiting times for Mental Health Support are very long, but GPs, Medication, Vaccinations, Outpatient Treatment, Sleep Clinics are all good!
I know someone in NHS management who's job is to recruit (aka pinch) staff from poor countries ..... arranges for whole families to come over with them... and he just got an MBE for it!! Shame we can't train uk residents these days.....
They sold it off years ago, we do npt have an NHS
No they haven't, stop making things up. Anything run by government is a disaster.
remember the tictok dances when they were flat out with the pandemic they are a disgrace
The first step in fixing the problem is realising you have a problem. It's about time people stopped worshipping the NHS and accepted the issues. It isn't all about funding either, there are plenty of European countries with better health outcomes that spend a lot less. Cut the burocracy and the EDI adgenda and change the cover up culture.
One huge problem is hiring nursing staff from overseas. Esp. africans. They don't care about the patients, the country or the service. The other main problem in nursing is the move from training in hospitals to education in unis. The unis don't care who takes a nursing course and certainly don't care whether they can do the job once qualified. I've worked with nurse who can't perform basic nursing tasks or worse, point blank refuse to perform those tasks. I could go on but the crux of that matter is decades of mismanagement by non clinicians.
The American System is better that way, I know I used to work for a Hospital over there. The NHS is shite in Truth. Also they should have Medical Insurance over here, with NHS being for those that can't afford to pay which is what it was meant to be.
God help us if we follow the American system. Two tiered healthcare, with the poor left to rot. Yeah, sounds great!