Denver's plan to end homelessness relies on giving people tools to succeed once they're housed
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
- Denver’s plan to end homelessness relies on people finding permanent housing. Yet right now, far more people are returning to the streets.
Life certainly can be devastatingly hard. How homeless people feel about all the things they need and their feelings, unfortunately will never end.
Most are homeless by choice! Not initially. But they stay homeless by choice
@@CoreyT127 yeah, what percentage of homeless are addicts, mental cases, or just plain lazy? I'd be interested in the percentage of homeless who are sober, have full time jobs and are trying and failing. That's an honest question, not a snotty one...
@@CoreyT127 Well. As an addict and someone who struggles with mental illness, "by choice" is not really entirely fair when someone's judgement is constantly impaired. And you definitely can't use it as an excuse to ignore them or the problem or to shirk off feeling empathy. That's why putting a roof over their head isn't enough. These people need health care. Clothes. A job interview. Therapy. Medication (legit). Some advice on how to act like a normal person in some cases. They need a purpose. Some way to fill their off hours. I think a communal-living style could work.
Like intentional communities. We already find intentional communities among the homeless. Usually to pool resources and do drugs, but the instinct to gather and cooperate is there and can be harnessed. Give people a job and a place semi-sequestered from society to transition lifestyles and get some therapy. Then sell whatever they make. Usually its like vegetables at a farmer's market or some shit. But you could do something more like what private prisons do. Those mf's make kevlar vests and shit.
IN THEORY, if a normal private company can produce a thing and turn a profit after paying all their operational costs, part of those operational costs are wages. Which pay 100% of those workers' needs, by definition. So, like the food of the formerly homeless people is paid for by them through their wages, their health insurance premiums, rent, utilities, car payment even. Like a company store model, but one that doesn't try to fuck over its workers.
All of that is earned by the production. You just keep their money in a conservatorship until they "graduate" back into society. So, all of their needs are met, they are learning a shit ton and acclimating, getting the help they need, all of your costs are covered, and they have a little nest egg for a down payment on an apartment and/or car when they leave campus. You even make a profit to keep or reinvest in the commune.
Lots of these people, I know from experience, will end up being therapists and counselors themselves to try to help others out of the situation they themselves used to be in. They will feel indebted to and believe in the program, which is just a bonus to have if you want to hire them back on after their education. Of course, some people will steal or be violent or vandalize shit or try to sneak in drugs. There will be remedial action up to and including removal from the program. Some people factually can't be helped. That's true. But to date, as a nation, we've not honestly tried, IMO. And that's much to our shame.
@@user-qr7ee2cp4y Addiction is a mental illness and laziness is also a symptom of mental illness. So...basically you just said "abandon the mentally ill" which includes like thousands of veterans who are mentally ill because of their service to the nation. Kinda fucked up tbh. If we're being super honest, I think you're a bit mentally ill for expressing that opinion. It is evidence for another thing I believe to be true. Everyone is mentally ill in some way. It's just that some ways are more self destructive or more helpful in our society. You can google the concept of the "industrial psychopath" if you're not already familiar.
Create the problem, ask for money, perpetuate the problem, ask for more money. Rinse, repeat.
This is always going to be a never ending money pit. When you start programs like these homeless folks from all around the state will move to Denver for the assistance. Just like when you put milk out on your porch for a stray cat. Now you have 6 or 8 of them out there wanting fresh milk. It’s sad and I don’t think there is a cure unfortunately 😖
Legislate limits on how long a person can remain in the program before they get booted out. Base it on a need-based entry assessment done by professionals. Ask for documents (if any), etc. This welfare queen bullshit you're spouting has been debunked for decades. I bet you also refuse to pay any higher taxes, right? Then how can we pay for more oversight to reduce fraud? Exactly. See my above comment.
Most of them don't want the tools.
Give a person a fish and they'll eat for a day, teach them to fish and they'll eat for a lifetime
Sure, but we musn't forget that they are gonna need some fish up front to survive while we teach them. But I agree, so far it's been all fish, no teaching.
@@citizen_wayne yeah, the world does a great job of convincing people to spend more than they make but do a bad job of teaching people to be financially independent