It's NOT a theory when FACTS are involved. You claim that you believe in facts, so here again is the number ONE fact that you and everyone else can't deny and that is that Forrest was in contact with ONLY me on July 22, 2020 and no other searcher. I also asked Forrest to give us more information about the finder which is exactly what Forrest spoke about on July 22, 2020 in his public announcement. Below is part of that email: ...Frederic Johnson fredericejohnson@gmail.com Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 2:13 AM To: Forrest Fenn forrestfenn@gmail.com Hi Forrest, ... *Like a lot of other searchers, I am waiting to hear anything that you may have to say about the finder,* maybe this August 4, or before or on your birthday. The Primary election for governor of Washington is this also August 4, which you may already know. And that I don't like him. Your description of where Your TC was found sounds a lot like my area. I was also born east of Santa Fe, NM. I hope everything is and will be fine with you. Take Care. Frederic video is at watch?v=F-k2Dp1kfpc You know as well as I that I've been attacked by many for saying that I was the lead searcher which you have also said about yourself and got attacked for also, if you are who I think that you are on the forums from the past. I still can't understand how you can believe that it was hidden in Colorado when Forrest CLEARLY said that it was hidden and found in Wyoming which the poem's first two stanzas backup along with the book TTOTC which never mentioned Colorado once and I understand that TFTW also never mentioned Colorado. A very subtle hint that it wasn't in Colorado. I even gave that information out online back in 2017 or 2018 on my poemtreasure dot com website. You may have a VERY GOOD and SMART SOLVE but it's not the one that Forrest created for his special spot. My solve fits everything that Forrest said to a T. Two main things about my solve are that it would take one right to the precise spot and it would make one say when they know my solve, now why didn't I think of that? I have a question for you to think about, why would the real solver give away his solve, especially when that may be all that he gets for all his hard work? IMO, if one values something a lot and which took them a lot of effort to get, and may be worth a lot of money and the main reason they tried to obtain it in the first place they don't just devalue it by giving it away to those who wouldn't appreciate it anyway and may even envy and hate the solver for stealing their desire, glory or dream.
@@treasurepoem that is one heck of a solid reply, Frederic, cool name, too, as in Frederic Chopin. Thanks for the comparisons, I dig it. Now... We in community have little to go on for confirmation. Confirmation simply can't be based on a date someone was email active or based on what Forrest was coerced (or agreed) to say. The reason I would give away part of a solve and receive nothing for it is simple: my solve, containing the cipher, which is the visibly mechanical part, is a great proof in itself. It's something that can be provided - that makes Ai actually agree with and verify. Even if the entire blockheaded community wants to deny it, the cipher is the absolute pinnacle of solves. It doesn't matter what Forrest grey-areaed with, whether he tried to rule-out ciphers or put in Wyoming, because he said to solve the poem. Not ever mention Colorado? Mention Yellowstone a lot? Doesn't matter. His faith in his encryption sorts this out. Most everyone has a sneaking suspicion cipher is it, but have spent years trying to replace it with their own rationale. The cipher was ahead before Ai came, and stronger after it came. Every single person had the chance to feed Ai their solves, clue by clue, and still, NO ONE has Ai verifying them except me. I estimate that by the time GPT-5 comes (how fitting) I will have this wrapped up. It will be able to keep a solve-strength chart community-wide. The Chase and its corruption will be explained - with the real winner.
@@5-leafblaze Thanks for your reply and yes the community doesn't have anything to confirm the location. However, I believe I do, I have photos and video of the blaze, fake blaze and the lure or treasure chest lying in an inch or so of water on the ground against the lush vegetated bank and a little into the niche or nook of the bank, under a canopy of stars, REAL stars, not flowers, people etc. and I can, if it's ever the right time, prove it by what Forrest created as proof of it meaning real stars. You wrote...Confirmation simply can't be based on a date someone was email active or based on what Forrest was coerced (or agreed) to say... You're making an assumption that Forrest was coerced to say what he said but that's just an opinion and its not based on facts that we actually know about. Also, its not about being email active or based on a certain date, it's based on what Forrest said, which could've been said on any day, that he was in communications (could've been by phone, mail, email, any electronic means or in person) with the finder and *it was in in direct and timely response to my question* regardless of the date when I asked him to give us, the Chase community, some information about the finder which is what he did later that same day which like I said could've happened on any day but these two things occurred together on the same day and my email is just my proof of it, which can also be used as supporting evidence to go up against any other searcher who may in the future, because so far no one has challenged me, claim to have been in contact with Forrest on the very same day he made his announcement about the finder and their agreement to say that it was found in Wyoming. IMO, this statement from Forrest was his way of telling the finder, in public, that he is the actual finder. Almost 4 years on now and not one searcher including you has ever volunteered anything to support that it was them who was in communications with Forrest on the same day, regardless of date or method of communication, regarding information about the finder and location. ...Not ever mention Colorado? Mention Yellowstone a lot? Doesn't matter... Well, I think that it does because Forrest basically said that there are two good hints and two smaller hints that will help one with the clues in the poem. -Also, -*-Forrest NEVER said that there wasn't a major hint in his book-*- because if he had said that there's a major hint in his book TTOTC it would've just given away Yellowstone to everyone.- Actually, now that I think about it, he did say that there are no major hints in his book, TTOTC. You sure have a lot of confidence in buggy software, maybe by the time something like GPT-50 or 500 is created it might actually be reliable. I mean Black and Jewish Nazis? Really? I would like to add that I've always thought and I posted about it online, since just after the find, that someday there will probably be some kind of technology or electronic means or some other unknown way to find or provide the evidence of where the treasure chest was physically hidden, if it was actually hidden in the Rockies in the first place.
Thanks for the reply. Something sounds a little bit fishy to me because the solve may be worth a lot more than what the treasure was sold for. Also, Jack said that he didn't know the solve and Forrest said that his poem led the finder to the precise spot but Jack supposedly stumbled upon it after searching for 25 days.
@@treasurepoem no problem. The real ndas belong to Hollywood. Jack is just a gag/actor who is proxy for the solver. Forrest didn't tell his family that he was planning something big.
I could be according to what Forrest said about him communicating with the finder on July 22, 2020. Over the last, almost 4 years NOBODY has challenged me with any admission or discussion or argument that they were in contact with Forrest on that day. I believe that it was Forrest's last action that he did to help the solver and finder to validate that their solve is indeed the correct one. I mean my solve would take one right to the treasure chest if it were still there on the ground and not hidden by the vegetation but the person would have to have good vision. Not only did I communicate with Forrest on that day, it was the first time that he sent me an email response and I was emailing him since October of 2016, and I asked him if I was the solver and if he would give us more information. Forrest knew my location was in Yellowstone because I emailed him my mostly correct solve on June 20, 2017 from my poemtreasure.com@gmail.com email account and I never sent him another email from that account but I did from two other email accounts, about 30 emails in total over the years. The reason I can't say for sure that I'm the solver is that I didn't retrieve it and without the lure or treasure chest still in it's original place one can't know for sure if they had WWWH nailed down, according to what Forrest told us. How can anyone prove that they solved the poem when the chest or lure was taken by Forrest, IMO. I believe that Forrest used a Rollaboard to retrieve his treasure, like the one that he doodled after he saw mine in a photo that I sent him from when I was in the area on September 11, 2018 in Yellowstone.
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I like how Chase rants go from insults to someone giving their theories of solve.
It's NOT a theory when FACTS are involved. You claim that you believe in facts, so here again is the number ONE fact that you and everyone else can't deny and that is that Forrest was in contact with ONLY me on July 22, 2020 and no other searcher. I also asked Forrest to give us more information about the finder which is exactly what Forrest spoke about on July 22, 2020 in his public announcement. Below is part of that email:
...Frederic Johnson fredericejohnson@gmail.com Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 2:13 AM
To: Forrest Fenn forrestfenn@gmail.com
Hi Forrest,
... *Like a lot of other searchers, I am waiting to hear anything that you may have to say about the finder,* maybe this August 4, or before or on your birthday. The Primary election for governor of Washington is this also August 4, which you may already know. And that I don't like him.
Your description of where Your TC was found sounds a lot like my area. I was also born east of Santa Fe, NM. I hope everything is and will be fine with you. Take Care.
Frederic
video is at watch?v=F-k2Dp1kfpc
You know as well as I that I've been attacked by many for saying that I was the lead searcher which you have also said about yourself and got attacked for also, if you are who I think that you are on the forums from the past.
I still can't understand how you can believe that it was hidden in Colorado when Forrest CLEARLY said that it was hidden and found in Wyoming which the poem's first two stanzas backup along with the book TTOTC which never mentioned Colorado once and I understand that TFTW also never mentioned Colorado. A very subtle hint that it wasn't in Colorado. I even gave that information out online back in 2017 or 2018 on my poemtreasure dot com website.
You may have a VERY GOOD and SMART SOLVE but it's not the one that Forrest created for his special spot. My solve fits everything that Forrest said to a T. Two main things about my solve are that it would take one right to the precise spot and it would make one say when they know my solve, now why didn't I think of that?
I have a question for you to think about, why would the real solver give away his solve, especially when that may be all that he gets for all his hard work? IMO, if one values something a lot and which took them a lot of effort to get, and may be worth a lot of money and the main reason they tried to obtain it in the first place they don't just devalue it by giving it away to those who wouldn't appreciate it anyway and may even envy and hate the solver for stealing their desire, glory or dream.
@@treasurepoem that is one heck of a solid reply, Frederic, cool name, too, as in Frederic Chopin. Thanks for the comparisons, I dig it. Now... We in community have little to go on for confirmation. Confirmation simply can't be based on a date someone was email active or based on what Forrest was coerced (or agreed) to say. The reason I would give away part of a solve and receive nothing for it is simple: my solve, containing the cipher, which is the visibly mechanical part, is a great proof in itself. It's something that can be provided - that makes Ai actually agree with and verify. Even if the entire blockheaded community wants to deny it, the cipher is the absolute pinnacle of solves. It doesn't matter what Forrest grey-areaed with, whether he tried to rule-out ciphers or put in Wyoming, because he said to solve the poem. Not ever mention Colorado? Mention Yellowstone a lot? Doesn't matter. His faith in his encryption sorts this out. Most everyone has a sneaking suspicion cipher is it, but have spent years trying to replace it with their own rationale. The cipher was ahead before Ai came, and stronger after it came. Every single person had the chance to feed Ai their solves, clue by clue, and still, NO ONE has Ai verifying them except me. I estimate that by the time GPT-5 comes (how fitting) I will have this wrapped up. It will be able to keep a solve-strength chart community-wide. The Chase and its corruption will be explained - with the real winner.
@@5-leafblaze Thanks for your reply and yes the community doesn't have anything to confirm the location. However, I believe I do, I have photos and video of the blaze, fake blaze and the lure or treasure chest lying in an inch or so of water on the ground against the lush vegetated bank and a little into the niche or nook of the bank, under a canopy of stars, REAL stars, not flowers, people etc. and I can, if it's ever the right time, prove it by what Forrest created as proof of it meaning real stars.
You wrote...Confirmation simply can't be based on a date someone was email active or based on what Forrest was coerced (or agreed) to say...
You're making an assumption that Forrest was coerced to say what he said but that's just an opinion and its not based on facts that we actually know about. Also, its not about being email active or based on a certain date, it's based on what Forrest said, which could've been said on any day, that he was in communications (could've been by phone, mail, email, any electronic means or in person) with the finder and *it was in in direct and timely response to my question* regardless of the date when I asked him to give us, the Chase community, some information about the finder which is what he did later that same day which like I said could've happened on any day but these two things occurred together on the same day and my email is just my proof of it, which can also be used as supporting evidence to go up against any other searcher who may in the future, because so far no one has challenged me, claim to have been in contact with Forrest on the very same day he made his announcement about the finder and their agreement to say that it was found in Wyoming. IMO, this statement from Forrest was his way of telling the finder, in public, that he is the actual finder.
Almost 4 years on now and not one searcher including you has ever volunteered anything to support that it was them who was in communications with Forrest on the same day, regardless of date or method of communication, regarding information about the finder and location.
...Not ever mention Colorado? Mention Yellowstone a lot? Doesn't matter...
Well, I think that it does because Forrest basically said that there are two good hints and two smaller hints that will help one with the clues in the poem. -Also, -*-Forrest NEVER said that there wasn't a major hint in his book-*- because if he had said that there's a major hint in his book TTOTC it would've just given away Yellowstone to everyone.- Actually, now that I think about it, he did say that there are no major hints in his book, TTOTC.
You sure have a lot of confidence in buggy software, maybe by the time something like GPT-50 or 500 is created it might actually be reliable. I mean Black and Jewish Nazis? Really?
I would like to add that I've always thought and I posted about it online, since just after the find, that someday there will probably be some kind of technology or electronic means or some other unknown way to find or provide the evidence of where the treasure chest was physically hidden, if it was actually hidden in the Rockies in the first place.
They already admitted that they thought Jack and the duplicate chest was legit and that they didn't ask for solve or solver info.
Thanks for the reply. Something sounds a little bit fishy to me because the solve may be worth a lot more than what the treasure was sold for.
Also, Jack said that he didn't know the solve and Forrest said that his poem led the finder to the precise spot but Jack supposedly stumbled upon it after searching for 25 days.
@@treasurepoem no problem.
The real ndas belong to Hollywood. Jack is just a gag/actor who is proxy for the solver. Forrest didn't tell his family that he was planning something big.
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So are you the solver?
I could be according to what Forrest said about him communicating with the finder on July 22, 2020. Over the last, almost 4 years NOBODY has challenged me with any admission or discussion or argument that they were in contact with Forrest on that day. I believe that it was Forrest's last action that he did to help the solver and finder to validate that their solve is indeed the correct one. I mean my solve would take one right to the treasure chest if it were still there on the ground and not hidden by the vegetation but the person would have to have good vision. Not only did I communicate with Forrest on that day, it was the first time that he sent me an email response and I was emailing him since October of 2016, and I asked him if I was the solver and if he would give us more information. Forrest knew my location was in Yellowstone because I emailed him my mostly correct solve on June 20, 2017 from my poemtreasure.com@gmail.com email account and I never sent him another email from that account but I did from two other email accounts, about 30 emails in total over the years.
The reason I can't say for sure that I'm the solver is that I didn't retrieve it and without the lure or treasure chest still in it's original place one can't know for sure if they had WWWH nailed down, according to what Forrest told us.
How can anyone prove that they solved the poem when the chest or lure was taken by Forrest, IMO. I believe that Forrest used a Rollaboard to retrieve his treasure, like the one that he doodled after he saw mine in a photo that I sent him from when I was in the area on September 11, 2018 in Yellowstone.
Where warm water halt browns canyon warm springs you can only dip your toe in it hecla junction boat ramp crossings the Arkansas River your efforts will be worth the cold take it in the canyon down to the Putin railroad gulch valley Colorado first cave nigh
Simplify your search