Was the initial £5.00 charged to your card eventually refunded, Matt? i.e. Did it cost £4.78 or £9.78 for 25 minutes of "downloading electricity juice" for (a maximum of) 20 miles of range? Great summary/video, by the way. The UK charging network needs to improve and the cost of the vehicles needs to decrease (a lot) for me to consider one (as a second vehicle). PS. Can the vehicle be disconnected from the public charging station mid-charge? I noticed the "Emergency Stop" button on the station. Could the local yoofs think it was funny to disconnect or stop the charging while you were away so that when you returned it then takes twice as long (and, possibly, twice as much debit to your card, as you need to begin again)?
i have a feeling that these evs will be the worst ambient disaster since the invention of private jets or yatchs for that matter... most of these evs are not lasting 5 years..... its a ambient disaster , the bateries... and guess were most of the eletricity come from? yes greta dads.... loool
@@Bruiser_Leethey only hold it whilst the charger is in progress and return almost immediately after. Some don't have an initial feeling so you only pay for the juice you add. From my experience with Octopus the electoverse card saves a lot of messing about and gives you a discount to boot.
Matt, as an EV owner (Nissan Ariya with a 270 mile range) I do agree with you that they are a better fit for the retiree, which I am, (and I love a latte as well). But you compared your 5.0L supercharged V8 with a 9 year old EV with a tiny range. I would love to see you do the same test in a Tesla Model 3 for example. I’m sure you would have a more favourable opinion at the end of it.
Nonsense! If I drove 100 miles in my Kia EV with the heater on, I'd maybe be looking at 10 to 15 miles loss. Certainly no more. A 10 mile trip using the heater, might lose you 750 yards range. Using the radio might cost you 20 yards range.
This is the kind of information that reluctant (late) adopters need to alleviate concerns by reflecting ('real world') usage over months, not a few days/a week or a single ‘road trip’, as is usually reported by reviewers with limited access to EVs loaned to them. Similarly, ICE vehicles experience a drop in power to the engine when their onboard air conditioning is active. Is that also noticeable in a (Kia) EV?
@@Brian-om2hh Nonsense! If I drove 100 miles in my petrol car with the heater on, I'd be looking at no mileage loss whatsoever. A 10 mile trip using the heater, would lose me nothing. Using the radio wouldn't lose me any range either. It all adds up.
Hello Matt’s, thanks for another enjoyable video. However you are testing a 9 year old EV with a tiny battery. We have a 4 year old BMW i3 with a usable range of 150 miles. That will do 99 out of 100 journeys we make on a single charge. Charge overnight on a super cheap tariff and it is great VFM. Plus it’s still a BMW!
I did exactly the same as you. I went from a supercharged V8 Range Rover to an EV back in 2014. I’ve never looked back and am now on my 5th EV with a 300 mile range and it does everything I ask of it, in style!
Matt, this is one of your best videos! I love the blend between talking about business regarding your EV experience and personal, such as you not remembering your night 🤣! Your humour is perfect and thanks for another great video!
I agree, a 2 car scenario, I use my EV (2015 i3) for daily work commute, drives to London and back (25 miles each way) going to the gym and tennis etc, but not for any long driving when you can't guarantee where a charging point is or if it's a rapid charge, let alone working or available.
This 27kWh Soul is for sale for £9,295. There’s a 64kWh Soul for sale for £13,995 on AutoTrader which has more than double the range. Also I would try to charge at home and work with a 32Amp charger rather than a 10Amp one with a 3 pin plug. Much safer and designed to be left charging overnight.
My Outlander PHEV is £0 VED it has a range of 300 miles plus and, although the EV only range is small (25-ish), it's fine for pootling about. It can move a huge amount of gear and cruise the motorways comfortably. Heated leather seats, etc. 🙂
You said it at the start, the EV for you would be the Tesla Model 3 LR - maybe 3 years old? Has all the range you are looking for with the fun of a boost if you need it. Plus the Tesla Superchargers are second to none.
Yes, the LR version of the Model 3 would do what Matt needs. Richard - he of the RSEV RUclips channel - drove a Model 3 LR from Edinburgh to London airport, without stopping to charge. He videoed the complete trip (editing out the bit where he pi$$ed into a bottle on the move).
I have been driving a ev for 8 months now a cupra born and im impressed by it and i like it more than my old petrol car and would not change back in due time
Mattttt, I think you should have picked an Ev that is big and luxurious, similar to your Range Rover. I think you’d like an early Jag i pace, they have depreciated lots, and with bigger wheels (wheels under 20 inch make the car look less appealing). Or maybe you could look at a phev for a few months before switching to an EV. Apparently their putting road tax on ev’s soon aswell
@@robloxfan4271 Isnt that like saying he should only test more expensive non EV's? Plenty of other channels do those. This channel is about the sort of car most people can afford.
@@jamesmaybrick2001 He's deliberately picked the worst car he could find for range when he has a minimum of 50 miles a day to drive. That's like buying a city car when you have to travel across Europe. There's plenty of cars that he could have bought 2nd hand that would have doubled this range and more modern cars can charge more quickly as well. If he had a 150 or 200 mile range he'd easily have avoided his range anxiety. If you're one of the rare people who drive hundreds of miles everyday an EV is still probably not for you but the average commute is about 20 miles.
No EV achieves anywhere near it's claimed range. Teslas are facing a court case from the Dept of Justice in the USA. Every other manufacture has a get out clause under their ads. if toy are driving more than 20 miles a day you are wasting a large part of your life charging these monstrosities
I think you are right about them being a good second car - a lot of people have 2 cars in the family and an EV seems perfect as a local every day runabout. We have solar panels, so having one seems a no brainer when I can charge it for free. I have no idea how often they go wrong, but they are simpler than an internal combustion engined car, so maintenance should be cheaper. We forget that ir is early days for these - consider how long it took to get from the Model T to our modern cars.
As a long time EV owner you have captured all the salient points of operating an EV. They drive well but the range is limited and the charging network woeful. Regarding the cost of public charging, I could have bought my dream car an F Type Jaguar and it would have been cheaper to run. Depreciation on my one year old ID3 with 10000 on the clock has been £26000 which is eye watering.
Hold on to it for two or three years and your losses may well be far less. There's a lot of FUD about EVs right now. Vested interests are spreading it. I think it's temporary.
As a long time EV owner would you not have ruined the video by simply plugging in over night on day 1. Stupid video if you're not going to use the main convenience of an EV. Oh look I need to reinforce my point so I will self sabotage the already small range by refusing the opportunity to fill up over night when I'm asleep 🤦
@@Luckyjo21 Read my comments, they are far superior to drive compared to an ICE vehicle as quieter, far quicker and smooth as silk to drive. It is range and charging issues that let them down. Charged from home at night on the cheap rate they work very well indeed. Clearly you have never owned one or driven one.
But that was the only EV Matt had in stock, for sale. This Soul is one of the earlier examples with the smaller capacity battery. The version you buy today, has a battery pack of almost 3 times the capacity.....
@@Brian-om2hh Indeed and he shouldn´t have used it as an example when it doesn´t or just barely fits his needs, that will not give a fair owner experience to anyone and the review showed as much. If he was doing an ev review then he should do as everyone does or should do and pick something that fits his needs.
@@skarpheinnsmundsson9741 I can only agree with that. Given that Matt's Soul is a 9 year old example, and the newer Souls have 3 times the range. Someone has already pointed out that given Matt needs a car to do his job, he chose the wrong tool for that job....
He recently had a Nissan leaf e+ been fairer to use this. Also no works or home charger so 3 pin plug charging, ridiculous. That’s a petrol head trying to do a comparison.
Not all evs are like this, borrow my model 3 long range with boost (lowered does help) and do your usual runs which it likes the motorway (70mph). I do a daily 146 mile commute and always get home with 50% battery left from fully charged, even booting it off the line a few times and not tiptoeing around either. Ev will not work for everyone but for a car now around £20k that'll do 60mph in under 4 seconds is good for many and £4 a 'tank', it's cheap motoring too on the go if you can home charge as I do, which some can't I know.
Good vid Matt, I'm not into them either, my friend has one through work a big VW something or other and Dave thing, promises range until you use wipers, lights or heating, sod that! They didn't take it when we went away for a weekend as couldn't be sure where to charge it and it wouldn't have made the journey! 👍
Hi Matt, great content. The win with EV’s IS home charging. Mine has a 175 mile real world range. Rarely do more than that in a day, even if you have 10 miles left, you wake up with another 175 for few quid.
Mate I know u love your range rovers. Fairplayed as I do too. I'd love to see u test the new Kia 4x4. Ev9 I think it's called. Keep the videos coming. Think I have completed both your channel and tranformotion. Well done bud, all the very best x
Choosing a short range EV was always going to cause problems but there are ways to make even that car work better for your needs. 1: ABC “Always Be Charging” A decision on the first night to plug in may have been overcome the problem on the second day when you wanted to collect the Mercedes. 2: Consider installing wall connectors, at your dealership at least as that will speed charging. Charging in a 3 pin 13A plug gives you 3Kw (13A X 230V) whilst the Kia Soul is capable of 7.4Kw connected to a 32A wall connector. This will reduce the recharge time on this car by more than half. Also if you intend to sell EVs in the future having wall connectors will benefit your business as it will make it easier to maintain the charge level on vehicles you sell. Finally, much of what you say about the public charging network is correct but as you also note it’s improving. On top of this most public charging providers give lower charging rates to customers who open an account, tap to pay on a credit card will always be expensive.
This is how I perceive the average Joe who enjoys his “proper” cars will end up using them… to offset the cost and environmental effect of running an internal combustion car for longer trips or the pleasure of it
Getting a Cupra Born delivered tomorrow. It’s a salary sacrifice lease deal and I can’t afford not to (I have to pay the ULEZ to go to work). But I’ll also be swapping my current E350 coupe for a convertible - probably another Merc for weekends and road trips
Charge it overnight. Yes you do have to be a little bit more prepared with an EV, but that Kia has a tiny battery and probably still goes nearly as far on a charge as his 5ltr RR around town.
Aqua did have a few certified bangers! enjoyable video as always! My wife has a 2022 kia soul, winter range is 220 miles 260+ in the summer. Great little car but still requires charging every 3 days or so.
There is a simple dynamic with EVs, charge up when you can especially small capacity battery ones. Doesn't matter how long, if you're not using it Charge IT!🤗 We found this out with our second car, we had no budget whatsoever, we could only afford a 24kW Leaf but as a local area runaround we could clock up the miles. So we took a leaf out of the local taxi firm's book. When ever sitting, charge. Even on a piddling granny charger offers 10 miles in an hour. A domestic 7kW offers up around 26 miles🤗 ps. our Leaf had a 6.6kW OBC
Of course they're quicker (the chargepoints): the "granny charger" will give you only 2.4kW, whereas the chargepoints will be 20 times that. And Zap Map will tell you what the charge will cost you per unit.
Be good to see you do a week with a Tesla long range and how much easier it is with their super charger network and the way the whole system works through the sat nav and charging cost being all set up. I think having high 200’s in miles and the speed of a top up charge makes a lot of difference looking at it from the outside at least.
The charging times are more of a bug bear with me compared to range. Its fine if you have a home charger however the public charging infrastructure leaves a lot to be desired, and the cost is usually on a par with a tank of fuel. In addition, it takes minute to fuel up at a petrol pump, whereas its a hour plus, to charge an EV
I've been in a EV just over a year now, since my normal day to day driving charging at home costs 2/3p a mile compared to 16p in a ICE what I do spend using the public charging infrastructure averages out to nothing. if I do charge at public chargers its usually just 10mins to get to my destination, never any more than 30.
As a retired man I think I'll stick to my diesel engines, it would do my head in sitting around waiting for a car to charge, when I can fill my tank up and do 500 miles with
I don’t sit around waiting for my EV to charge. I take 10 seconds plugging it in, then go in my house. Then in the morning spend 10 seconds unplugging my EV and then drive away with, (if I have chosen to) a full “tank” with around 250 miles of range costing me around 3 pence per mile.
I don't "sit around" waiting for my car to charge. I charge mine during the night while I sleep. This has zero effect on my lifestyle. Once charged, I'm good for 230 miles (around 8 days) or so. How many times do you drive 500 miles in one go, without stopping?
Lots changed with EVs since 2015. The point is you start every day with a full tank. Pay the money for a proper charger, rather than use a plug. Range anxiety died about 2019 unless you buy specific low range cars. Heat pumps are way more common. Public charging can be painful and expensive unless Tesla. Quite impressed the charger you found worked. At home on cheap rate you'd fill it for £2.
@@jimpackard8059 Which actually applies to most people. The average UK daily commute is 20.8 miles, and the average UK motorway journey is 70 to 80 miles.....
@@jimpackard8059 Nope just vanished completely, on my longer trips I stop after driving 3-4hours anyway and the 15-20min it takes to charge is enough time to get something to eat, stretch a little, go to the restroom and off again. And as others have said the average commute for most isn´t that long so it´s the occasional longer trip that is the only time you have to charge away and with most never ev´s you have fast charging and decent range. I have had Teslas for 6years now and only once had range anxiety and that was my fault and not the cars.
I have a Skoda enyaq 80 and it’s lovely. I’ve been getting 230miles + in winter. I have spaced the heat pump which makes a difference to your range. I would highly recommend getting one as there great value
It entirely depends on your own personal use case. I know I could make one work. But I can't justify the expense or the precipitous depreciation. It would cost me less to keep my old L322 on the road and swallow the running costs / repair bills. Which is pretty crazy TBH
Take advantage of the mega depreciation and get one second hand. No good for business tax, but I've found it is still relatively economical for me to buy second hand and claim mileage. But i do about 2000 miles a month so i skew heavily towards economical cars, can't do much better than an EV with home charging.
I tend to agree, most of the time as it's a case by case basis. At the moment, I don't need to drive for work, I usually do a lot of my stuff within a 26 mile round trip - however, once every weekend or so I have to drive from Dorset to London or elsewhere for football, so a car like this wouldn't be recommended as a sole car. Instead I've got a 16 year old 1.5l Swift, with only 58,500 on the clock (thank you old people of Hampshire doing 400 miles a year on average), and while it's not the most comfortable after 2 hours driving, it's been reliable, it's fuel efficient, it's not boring to drive and it's relatively cheap - cost only £3,000 around 5/6 years ago.
But why buy new? I saw someone get a really clean 2016 Renault Zoe with 35k miles on it for £4400 a while back. How much depreciation might you expect to see on a Zoe like this? It's lost almost all it's going to lose.....
My wifes got a hybrid and I've got a Merc. Our plan for the next stage with our cars is likely to be keeping a diesel for long runs and swapping the hybrid for a full EV. Between the two we then have all bases covered until EVs offer the full package. I have absoluetly no doubt they will as well. I expect lots of comments about they are crap but as I say they will be what we are all driving before too long.
We had a range rover (BMW M62) and after selling that we bought a Kia Soul EV, but the newer one with 64kwh battery. We loved the range rover, but seriously the Kia is actually better! We set it up to charge to 80% to preserve the battery on off peak electricity. Every morning it's good for about 200 miles. On a cold day the app allows you to pre heat it, and unlike the Range rover it is pretty reliable. The newer Kia Soul is very easy to live with, but you are right about public chargers... Total rip off.
Indeed, the larger battery in the newer version makes all the difference. Public charging with a subscription can be way cheaper than paying the "normal" cost. My local charge network charges 38p per kwh on it's heavy user subscription. The non-subscriber costs at most chargers are up around 60 to 80p per kwh.... I smiled at the " unlike the Range Rover, it is pretty reliable" comment..... There's way less to go wrong with an EV. Around 30 moving parts, against thousands for anything with an engine....
@@Brian-om2hh Exactly so! It's actually quite liberating no longer living with a car where the timing chain guides can detonate any moment. Obviously the key thing with an EV is to avoid that crazy early depreciation. We decided that a 2 year old Kia with 5 years warranty left hit the sweet spot.
There was a time buying a second hand car a set of cars mats normally clinched the deal....now I'm going to want a new battery pack, and a set of mats. Keep up the good work, love the different content now and again.
Very honest review. I am just about to take delivery of a Plug in Hybrid with a range of 50 mile on Ev. So in theory you could use this for your commute & have the petrol engine to avoid range anxiety & give you some flexibility. Also your accountant would probably like the low benefit in kind tax.
Exactly right. You would be using your plug-in hybrid in exactly the way it is intended to be used. I can't understand those who get a plug-in hybrid, then never charge it up. To me, that's tantamount to lunacy. You do need to keep that battery charged up at every opportunity, to maximise the efficiency. Why pay 20p (or more) to cover a mile, when you could do it for (say) an 8th of the cost? .
Nice, fair assessment, Matt. I was nearly convinced but you got me at the £/mile figure. Ok and there's the range issue. For practical and affordable motoring, I use and maintain a high mileage mid-2000s diesel. Sadly, nothing comes close.
All your "New Brake Pad Technology" was available 40 years ago. I should know as I was Quality Assurance Manager at a friction material manufacturer supplying OEM parts to the automotive industry at that time.
So a small battery car with little range is no good for lots of miles. Who would have thunk it.. My EV has 64kw battery with 250-300 miles. Use the right tool for the job.
if you really need the range there are 160ish mile new shape nissan leaf and possibly 200 mile new shape renault zoe R135 and plenty of 160 mile R110 zoe.you can get first generation zoe that does 70-80 miles for £5k+.He compared a £60-70K range rover to a bottom of the barrel ev.not really a fair comparison.small battery,slow charging if he spent £50k on an ev it would be differant story.300 mile range.full battery in 20 mins.that would be a lot easier to live with.he did absoluelty no research into charging or his car then he will come unstuck and blame ev's.not hard to watch a youtube video or google
I just came back from spain where I rented the 20kwh version of the fiat 500e. I liked it, but I would definitely go for the 42kwh version. UNLESS all you really do is lurk around the backstreets and can charge at home.
Watched with interest and glad you could see the positives as well as the negatives. I've been running an I-pace for the past 13 months and wouldn't change it for an ICE car now. Maybe you should take it out for a couple of days to get a real world impression of an equivalent level EV to the Range Rover.
I have been driving EV''s for just over a year now. Started with a VW ID4, and now I have the Audi Q4 e-Tron 50 Quattro, that Matt did a review on. I easily get over 250 miles of range out of it. It charges up at home overnight, and on the rare occasions that i have had to use a public charger, normally on the motorway, I have mostly had positive experiences. However, if I didn't have the off-road parking and a charging unit at home, I would have to question whether I would have the EV over a diesel/petrol.
I too have a Q4 ETron, albeit a 40 rwd. I have only had it 3 months so I’m no expert but I just can’t get over how cheap it is to run. I was getting 31mpg out of my 71 plate A5 which works out roughly £20.70 per 100 miles whereas my Q4 is costing 2.70 per 100 mile. The road tax for the A5 was £570, it’s a no brainer for me, I can’t imagine ever going back to an ICE vehicle again. The car cost more but that’s more than offset by the savings
@@stevecarr3019 My VWI D4 is a company car, and the difference in benefit in kind and fuel tax when compared to my previous Audi A5 Diesel are about £700 a month. So my initial view was it was worth going electric for the tax savings. However, I enjoyed the EV experience so much, I bought the Audi Q4 as my personal car. I retire in April this year, so the VW will go back then. Very good car, but the Audi has the edge in many areas.
I had a first gen leaf with a similar range. My wife's commute was a 44 miles round trip. You just change your mindset ever so slightly and when you come home at night you plug it in. In this video you could've had no worries had you have done that. I am willing to bet you find time to plug your phone in every night.......it is the same! The latest EVs are a different story anyway but I would still apply the same rule.
I think: If you can charge at home a PHEV is still a reasonable option. You can do shorter trips fully electric but you still have the long rage with fuel if needed.
The Soul was not a bad car and still is especially with the most recent 2023 model having a 64kWh battery . The range is definitely much improved and the styling is quirky enough to make it quite appealing , like the i3 back in it's day .
@@gypsyemperor7535I can’t take anyone who says ‘Agenda’ seriously. His point was that it was a cheaper used vehicle with low mileage. It’s what the average person is expected to be driving given the broad push to EVs despite their batteries making their prices unaffordable for many in the first 3 years of their lifespan. That was his point
@@gypsyemperor7535 Modern capable EV's with a 200 mile plus agenda are too expensive for the majority of his buyers so it's fair enough to use this Kia as an example. Sounds to me like it's you that has the agenda.
@@135Ops Matt's Soul will almost certainly find a buyer, although there are other options "out there" too, such as the extremely clean 2016 Renault Zoe, with 35k miles on it I saw someone gat for £4400 a few weeks back....
@@135Ops You'd probably find that most who choose a new EV don't buy, they lease. And there are a couple of reasons for that. 1. Leasing side-steps pretty much all of the effects of depreciation if you're good with the Monthly cost of the lease. 2. You get the opportunity to upgrade to the newer updated model at the end of the lease - usually 3 or 4 years.
I get the impression the best way to view them is to offset the “proper” cars you drive and own… that’s the only reason I’d personally get one (and I’d have a Honda E) if the fun police start to limit the internal combustion trips you can make, and the only way to get to go them is to accumulate “eco” points to do so. What a time to be alive, eh…..
As a “retired” person, it makes good sense! The replacement for my current hybrid will be an EV (as long as the kids haven’t sent me to the nursing home) and given how used EV’s have tanked I’ll be able to pick up a late model for little cost and it will be my last car ever!
Don't do it. If you do you will spend hours waiting for the dangerous thing to charge before catching fire or exploding. Why do you think the values of these abysmal cars has tanked? Because no one in their right mind would buy one. Check out the videos of EV fires they are far more frequent than in ICE cars and burn much hotter giving off toxic poisonous fumes over a wide area
Hate to tell you this but most cars Ev or petrol have tanked. But yes having had two Ev’s being retired they make way more sense especially if you can charge at home.
Interesting video Matt, thanks. Agree with your “two car family” suggestion. We have a FIAT 500e which has a realistic range of 160 miles. It has never been that far in one trip and has only ever needed to charge overnight at home on cheap rate electricity so costs next to nothing to run. Our other car is a Volvo V60 which always does the long trips. Previously had a Jaguar ipace which was brilliant but too expensive, fortunately managed to sell it just at the right time when ev prices were silly high.
Don't think that would satisfy most of the watchers. Wouldn't fit the agenda when in reality if he picked a half decent ev it would actually be more convenient to use considering he has a driveway to charge it on
Yes, that would only leave him with the insurance cost anxiety, the high purchase price anxiety, the cold weather battery depletion anxiety and the charging point availability/serviceability anxiety to deal with.
@jonl8509 he can charge at home so charger anxiety isn't a thing for him. If it is then buy a tesla. Cold weather is also a non issue, EVs make up 80% of sales in Norway. Battery degradation is a massively overblown non issue- you think manufacturers are giving 8 year battery warranties because they think they will need replacing?! And finally, Matt drives a range rover as a daily... hardly a monument to frugality is it?! He could sell it, buy a model 3 and be quids in. Not to be rude but you are a bit out of date. Most of your concerns were relevant a decade ago. Most people really think they need a range of 500 mile plus. How many of them have ever actually driven that kind of distance in one go?! I've been driving 20 years and I haven't. It's over 7 hours at motorway speed, who is doing that without taking a couple of stops regularly?! Answers: nobody and bullshitters for the sake of winning anti ev arguments on social media
I love your videos but this one felt like you were making a review of all petrol cars based on a week with Fiat Multipla 🤣 Looking forward to a proper review with a Tesla S/3/X/Y
Hope you re-visit this in 10 years. The infrastructure and cost model will change dramatically in that time. There will even come a time when it’s difficult to find liquid fuel. I am similar to in that I want an electric car, but it has to make sense, so sticking with RRS/Diesel for the moment. But as ever, fair and balanced review - great job.
Had a Mini Cooper S EV for 48hours from Halliwell Jones, and it was a good comparison to our petrol Cooper S; performance wise it was identical, and infact quite hilarious launching away from traffic lights. But the range and extra planning would get on my nerves after a while. They reckon 140 miles is expected but I was closer to 120 with mixed driving and aircon/heated seats on as usual. I have seen people getting a range of 70 miles from a full charge, which you can easily burn through in a Mini Cooper S.
But be honest, you wouldn't choose a Mini if you were planning lots of long motorway journeys, would you? The Mini is marketed as a convenient town and city car, not a motorway cruiser.
@@Brian-om2hh just completed 962 miles in 7 days around mid/south Wales on fast A roads & the M4 in a 2023 Countryman Cooper S and it was extremely comfy.
@@gregg.d It's good you found the Mini comfortable. A friend of mine bought a new Mini Countryman a couple of years back, and I've sat in the front as a passenger. Sadly, I found it anything but comfortable. The seats - particularly the seat bases - didn't feel large enough. I felt as though I was sat *on* them, rather than *in* them..... Compared to my Golf Mk7, the Countryman's ride seemed choppy, and far from smooth.
@@gregg.d You could do the same journey with the electric MINI and charge at the hotel while you were in bed. Every decent hotel I've been has chargers
@@chrishar110 there was no chargers where I was staying, and I think I only saw two down in Carmarthen. Infact, I don’t recall seeing many electric cars in general.
You have answered my question, no not for me a full EV. Have bought my Wife a Hybrid Mitsubishi Outlander and pleased with it up to now. Great video. 👍👍👍👍
"Quite a high spec" = less range. A heated steering wheel and heated seats, whilst nice to have "up north" just sap the battery. Maybe they should include a little petrol generator in the boot to power the heater 😁
Honestly, worrying about heated seats, lights and the radio draining the battery is a bit like worrying you left the tap running on the Titanic. It's nothing.
But you already know that it is a bit limited on range when you get in it..? Think it might have been the main heating that was doing that anyway, the heated seats and wheel are meant to be more efficient I think so I'd use that personally.
@@Nick_G7IZR I was answering your point about heated seats etc. But I guess Kia cheaped out by not fitting a heap pump for the main heating which is bad.
4:20 @woolychewbakker5277 Take a look at his video again. Start at 4:20 where he turns his climate off and gets 10% more range. Now he may be exaggerating slightly, but that's where I got it from. Complain to Matt 😀
I went from a Merc SLK to a Tesla Model 3 SR+ I've done many long journeys including a weekend return trip to Darlington from Plymouth, 750 miles charged twice no issues. Keep it on % rather than miles. Won't ever go back to and ICE car.
I agree. EV's are not for everyone. A couple of things surprised me in this video. 1. £7 for a gallon of petrol..whoa! 2. @23:12 Check out the cars parked on the pavement and facing the wrong direction. Where are pedestrians supposed to walk nowadays in the UK?
Your accountant is right! I’ve owned two evs, the BMW i3 and the Mercedes EQC. UNBEATABLE for running costs and plenty of power and torque. they make the BEST daily cars. I can’t see me going back to combustion for a daily ever again tbh.… I’m sure that Kia is fine but try an ev with specs that match up to that of performance cars…. You won’t be disappointed!
@@brunozlopasa1106 dont buy it! why would anyone in their right mind buy an EV? lease it of course, resale value is irrelevant on a lease, drive it enjoy it save money, hand it back and pick a new one when the lease it up.
Very fair video. You just need right EV for your particular use. I have long range 220 - 240 realistic miles MG ZS EV that suits any daily/weekly needs. Charging at around £8 per week! The Kia Soul would be fine for typical daily local use.
I was putting my car in for a service last November when one of the salesmen approached me. “Have you thought about replacing your car with an EV?”, I told him that I visit my sister who lives near Penzance. Quick as a flash he say “think of the money you would save on fuel”. I said “I, but the hotel bills would be through the roof” I live in North Cumbria - 950 mile round trip, + I’m the cemetery side of 70
But if you charged it the previous night, you’d have no worries Mat (Apologies if that’s the incorrect spelling). Tesla have it right with their “ABC” system; Always Be Charging
You say they're great for running about locally but the Kia Soulless start at 32k. EV's like that would be great for running about if they were the same price as an ICE car, but you're never going to get value for money nipping to Bingo and Lidl twice a week, in a 32k car.
@@Hali88 but a new one is 32k. and when new, they have the same range. when new, they're still great for running locally. It doesn't matter if this one is a second hand car or not, a 32 grand car shouldn't just be great for running around locally. They don't come off the production line 8 9years old so somebody has to buy them new. I'd rather spend 20k on a decent second hand petrol car and have 12k to spend on fuel.
@@Hali88 Exactly. I saw someone get a 2016 Renault Zoe with 35k miles on it, for £4400 not long ago.... Why do so may people assume you have to get a *new* EV? There are decent used ones around now....
@@Brian-om2hhhe got a very good deal then. On auto trader, 2016 Zoe’s with 35k miles on are going for about 7 grand. Not that bad but certainly not the norm for the price he paid
I always used Ferodo DS11 (front) and VG95 (rear). A heavy pedal with no servo but then they were the competition brake material of the 1960s. You got them free with an international competition licence. Jack, the Japan Alps Brit
The Kona has a 280 mile range, charge it at 9p/kWh overnight, little more than 2p a mile. And the nice drive you get in an EV. You do need a 7kW charger at home to make the best of it.
I live in a flat. With 44% in the UK in the same boat. cheap driveway charging isn't going to happen. EV is an exclusive club for people with driveways
You’d be a fool to have an EV and only rely on a public network. There would be nothing better than coming out of your house in the morning and jumping into an already toasty warm, fully charged EV while everyone else struggles with frozen cars. My biggest bugbear with EV driving is that people assume if you have an EV car you aren’t interested in cars. They aren’t mutually exclusive. My current car is actually a diesel for the range and the fact I cant afford a remote control car let alone a new car. But, if I had the money, I’d have an EV for my boring commute stuck in traffic, and have a petrol powered car for the weekend blasts. Something classic like a Lancia Integrale.
@@davidcannon1144 in the UK, the figure is that around 2/3s of dwellings have access to a driveway. In even the most congested towns and cities, that figure is still around 44%. That is far more than the current takeup of EVs. In the future those who live in flats like yourself will find that more and more street furniture such as lampposts will have chargers, not to mention workplaces. If your car is sat out in the street it can be charged, if you are otherwise at work, it can be charged. There are ways and means coming, but I appreciate it might not suit. I dont mind EVs but I dont want one as an only car, I want the 5 litre petrol for the weekend too. At the minute though, I have a diesel hack hatchback for the range….
Just get a wee Renault ZOE 180 real world miles. Charging in public points is 22kw AC so 1/2 the price of rapid chargers. Or get the CCS version (slower than others like the corsa). With the ZOE and a phase 3 at work it will be charged in 2-3 hours unless you are on nothing left but you would not so that anyway.
A decent used Tesla Model 3 can be had for around 25k now with the long range having 300miles+ range of battery. Come off a roundabout onto a nice long straight stretch of dual carriageway and floor the tesla. Then report back about how much you miss your V8 after trying that.
if straight line speed and speeding tickets are your only unit of measurement for how enjoyable to drive a car is, then more power to you. some of us like sounds, manual gearboxes, handling dynamics, stuff like that.
After i go on autbahn and put it 200kpm when you go 110 and lose 70 percent of battery and battery degragation of 50 percent after few years report me then
@@brunozlopasa1106 clueless old man thinks an ev battery is just like his mobile phone battery, pathetic mindless sheep blindly accepting what the media tells him.
So funny seeing you at the charger😂 I own an EV for almost 1 year and I'm so used to it. And you get those £5 back. You didn't mention that... And I have a Hyundai Kona: Winter 230-250 miles Summer or warm: 280-300 miles in one charge
I have done the self same thing swapping my Range Rover Sport for an EV.......Miss the luxury but don't miss the crazy insurance, eyewattering servicing bills & £400+ monthly diesel bills.
@@Bikeops2021 no particular need for a light foot. EV's have regenerative braking.... Select the appropriate level of regen for the driving you do, and you'll hardly ever touch the brakes.
Great review Matt. We have both petrol and an EV. But that works great for us. The EV in Summer has a range of 309 miles in winter that drops to 290 (we never turn off the A/C). We use the EV for running around and the petrol car for longer journeys. We also mainly charge at home which makes it cheap. However, this won't work for everyone and we couldn't live with just an EV for our lifestyle. We are lucky though and can afford to have both, so that also is a big consideration.
I use my BMW 2.0D and it is marvellous. 4 wheel drive , no range anxiety , no sliding all over the road and a return journey from Aberdeen to Edinburgh is a doddle in one day without stopping for charging / coffee breaks. Did the journey from Southampton where I bought it right up to Edinburgh in one go.
Harry's Garage's latest video, where he opted for a diesel Range Rover Sport over a Taycan and the PHEV BMW X5, was interesting! Although his analysis was as a private buyer not through a company.
My mrs has the same car, 65-70m range in winter with heater, heated seats and steering wheel, 13m commute to the train station and I'd rather use her car than my diesel for that kind of a journey... For your use case it doesn't leave you with too much wiggle room if you need to go sonewhere without it being pre-planned.
The soul is designed as a short range EV , although they do make a 64kwh one I believe . The e-Nero or Tesla model 3 long range would be more than adequate for 80 odd % of people .
Kia were at one point selling both 39kwh and 64kwh versions of the Soul, although I think only the larger battery one is available now. The car Matt has is the first 2015 version, with a much smaller 29 kwh battery.
You do know there are EV's with like 4 times the range of this car, and are able to charge like 800km per hour. More then enough for all your commutes and much more.
What did I get from this video? If you've got the dosh, don't by an 8 year old EV, get one with a decent range and have a proper charging point installed at home. Mine has a range of 250 miles and I've got an EV friendly tariff which means a full charge is usually around nine quid. I've had the car fifteen months and haven't spent a penny on it. I've got a Brera parked up in the garage for sh*ts and giggles and I've virtually stopped using it.
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Was the initial £5.00 charged to your card eventually refunded, Matt? i.e. Did it cost £4.78 or £9.78 for 25 minutes of "downloading electricity juice" for (a maximum of) 20 miles of range? Great summary/video, by the way. The UK charging network needs to improve and the cost of the vehicles needs to decrease (a lot) for me to consider one (as a second vehicle). PS. Can the vehicle be disconnected from the public charging station mid-charge? I noticed the "Emergency Stop" button on the station. Could the local yoofs think it was funny to disconnect or stop the charging while you were away so that when you returned it then takes twice as long (and, possibly, twice as much debit to your card, as you need to begin again)?
i have a feeling that these evs will be the worst ambient disaster since the invention of private jets or yatchs for that matter... most of these evs are not lasting 5 years..... its a ambient disaster , the bateries... and guess were most of the eletricity come from? yes greta dads.... loool
On a recent Harry’s garage video about EVs, he showed that KIAs were some of the worst for battery degradation
Sorry. Even for me who love the blue color. It looks terrible. Sorry Matt 😅 I hate EVs with a passion so i won t comment about the rest😁
@@Bruiser_Leethey only hold it whilst the charger is in progress and return almost immediately after. Some don't have an initial feeling so you only pay for the juice you add. From my experience with Octopus the electoverse card saves a lot of messing about and gives you a discount to boot.
Matt, as an EV owner (Nissan Ariya with a 270 mile range) I do agree with you that they are a better fit for the retiree, which I am, (and I love a latte as well). But you compared your 5.0L supercharged V8 with a 9 year old EV with a tiny range. I would love to see you do the same test in a Tesla Model 3 for example. I’m sure you would have a more favourable opinion at the end of it.
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This 2015 mobile phones just can compare to today's, these mobile phone things are a joke"
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No point having all the mod-cons if you can’t switch them on because you can’t risk losing range..!
Nonsense! If I drove 100 miles in my Kia EV with the heater on, I'd maybe be looking at 10 to 15 miles loss. Certainly no more. A 10 mile trip using the heater, might lose you 750 yards range. Using the radio might cost you 20 yards range.
This is the kind of information that reluctant (late) adopters need to alleviate concerns by reflecting ('real world') usage over months, not a few days/a week or a single ‘road trip’, as is usually reported by reviewers with limited access to EVs loaned to them.
Similarly, ICE vehicles experience a drop in power to the engine when their onboard air conditioning is active. Is that also noticeable in a (Kia) EV?
you lose range in an ice car too
@@Brian-om2hh Nonsense! If I drove 100 miles in my petrol car with the heater on, I'd be looking at no mileage loss whatsoever. A 10 mile trip using the heater, would lose me nothing. Using the radio wouldn't lose me any range either. It all adds up.
@@Bruiser_Lee Not sure that the early adopters, the ‘pragmatists’ are convinced yet. Matt’s review was just that, pragmatic.
The tone in your voice, and the smile on your face says everything you need to know when you was driving that Mercedes.
Unfortunately, not all of us are able to own or drive cars like that.....
You only have yourself to blame for that though.@@Brian-om2hh
Hello Matt’s, thanks for another enjoyable video. However you are testing a 9 year old EV with a tiny battery. We have a 4 year old BMW i3 with a usable range of 150 miles. That will do 99 out of 100 journeys we make on a single charge. Charge overnight on a super cheap tariff and it is great VFM. Plus it’s still a BMW!
Always a good day when HPA uploads
I did exactly the same as you. I went from a supercharged V8 Range Rover to an EV back in 2014. I’ve never looked back and am now on my 5th EV with a 300 mile range and it does everything I ask of it, in style!
Matt, this is one of your best videos! I love the blend between talking about business regarding your EV experience and personal, such as you not remembering your night 🤣! Your humour is perfect and thanks for another great video!
Haha thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it
I agree, a 2 car scenario, I use my EV (2015 i3) for daily work commute, drives to London and back (25 miles each way) going to the gym and tennis etc, but not for any long driving when you can't guarantee where a charging point is or if it's a rapid charge, let alone working or available.
LOL he listens to Aqua and has the nerve to tell us a Soul is a pensioner's car! A man of dubious taste! ;-)
The thing is an ev rarely used it's brake pads, it uses regen. Brake pads are one thing it's not going to need
He also does not rate diesels cars. he is clueless
@@Anonymous-ib8so Of course he doesn't rate Diesel cars - he has petrol running through his veins!
Was Dr Jones a psychologist? Should we ask him what's going on here? Can this man be saved?
@@musclerent who cares they still suck
This 27kWh Soul is for sale for £9,295. There’s a 64kWh Soul for sale for £13,995 on AutoTrader which has more than double the range. Also I would try to charge at home and work with a 32Amp charger rather than a 10Amp one with a 3 pin plug. Much safer and designed to be left charging overnight.
Nice honest video! I'm just very skeptical as to how long EV's will remain Tax exempt once the uptake rate rises!
Good shout. The BIK rate is going increase 1% a year. Currently at 2%
EVs will be taxed from 1st April 2025, and that will apply to existing zero emission vehicles, not just new ones from that date.
@@maverick6631 I assume they'll be on the lowest band, which will still be a significant saving.
@@chr15b I'm guessing they'll be what will (by then) be the lowest band, at £190 per year.....
My Outlander PHEV is £0 VED it has a range of 300 miles plus and, although the EV only range is small (25-ish), it's fine for pootling about. It can move a huge amount of gear and cruise the motorways comfortably. Heated leather seats, etc. 🙂
Nice! Was looking to get one, what's the cost of a full tank? And what's your insurance like?
You said it at the start, the EV for you would be the Tesla Model 3 LR - maybe 3 years old? Has all the range you are looking for with the fun of a boost if you need it. Plus the Tesla Superchargers are second to none.
Yes, the LR version of the Model 3 would do what Matt needs. Richard - he of the RSEV RUclips channel - drove a Model 3 LR from Edinburgh to London airport, without stopping to charge. He videoed the complete trip (editing out the bit where he pi$$ed into a bottle on the move).
I have been driving a ev for 8 months now a cupra born and im impressed by it and i like it more than my old petrol car and would not change back in due time
Mattttt, I think you should have picked an Ev that is big and luxurious, similar to your Range Rover. I think you’d like an early Jag i pace, they have depreciated lots, and with bigger wheels (wheels under 20 inch make the car look less appealing). Or maybe you could look at a phev for a few months before switching to an EV. Apparently their putting road tax on ev’s soon aswell
agreed, he should re do the test but with a more expensive electric car
@@robloxfan4271 Isnt that like saying he should only test more expensive non EV's? Plenty of other channels do those. This channel is about the sort of car most people can afford.
@@jamesmaybrick2001 He's deliberately picked the worst car he could find for range when he has a minimum of 50 miles a day to drive. That's like buying a city car when you have to travel across Europe.
There's plenty of cars that he could have bought 2nd hand that would have doubled this range and more modern cars can charge more quickly as well.
If he had a 150 or 200 mile range he'd easily have avoided his range anxiety.
If you're one of the rare people who drive hundreds of miles everyday an EV is still probably not for you but the average commute is about 20 miles.
No EV achieves anywhere near it's claimed range. Teslas are facing a court case from the Dept of Justice in the USA. Every other manufacture has a get out clause under their ads. if toy are driving more than 20 miles a day you are wasting a large part of your life charging these monstrosities
I Pace! With their track record
I think you are right about them being a good second car - a lot of people have 2 cars in the family and an EV seems perfect as a local every day runabout. We have solar panels, so having one seems a no brainer when I can charge it for free. I have no idea how often they go wrong, but they are simpler than an internal combustion engined car, so maintenance should be cheaper. We forget that ir is early days for these - consider how long it took to get from the Model T to our modern cars.
“I don’t like to give in” he says, from the front seat of a Mercedes S class
Try a tesla model 3 long range for a week
Tesla chargers And 340 mile range..but I think you knew your answer before you even started
They look horrendous and are built just as bad
As a long time EV owner you have captured all the salient points of operating an EV. They drive well but the range is limited and the charging network woeful. Regarding the cost of public charging, I could have bought my dream car an F Type Jaguar and it would have been cheaper to run. Depreciation on my one year old ID3 with 10000 on the clock has been £26000 which is eye watering.
then go buy a diesel instead of driving that crap
Hold on to it for two or three years and your losses may well be far less. There's a lot of FUD about EVs right now. Vested interests are spreading it. I think it's temporary.
As a long time EV owner would you not have ruined the video by simply plugging in over night on day 1. Stupid video if you're not going to use the main convenience of an EV. Oh look I need to reinforce my point so I will self sabotage the already small range by refusing the opportunity to fill up over night when I'm asleep 🤦
Lel buying new cars, thats the worst thing you can do with your money. 2nd hand is always the way to go. Let some sucker pay the bill for youm
@@Luckyjo21 Read my comments, they are far superior to drive compared to an ICE vehicle as quieter, far quicker and smooth as silk to drive. It is range and charging issues that let them down. Charged from home at night on the cheap rate they work very well indeed. Clearly you have never owned one or driven one.
Thanks for the 4 videos coming this week!
I have a Soul 64kw...get 250 miles and regularly do long trips...generally without any problems
I think doing the test in better EV would have been fairer.
But that was the only EV Matt had in stock, for sale. This Soul is one of the earlier examples with the smaller capacity battery. The version you buy today, has a battery pack of almost 3 times the capacity.....
@@Brian-om2hh Indeed and he shouldn´t have used it as an example when it doesn´t or just barely fits his needs, that will not give a fair owner experience to anyone and the review showed as much. If he was doing an ev review then he should do as everyone does or should do and pick something that fits his needs.
Perhaps one 10 years younger with a 200 to 400 mile range
@@skarpheinnsmundsson9741 I can only agree with that. Given that Matt's Soul is a 9 year old example, and the newer Souls have 3 times the range. Someone has already pointed out that given Matt needs a car to do his job, he chose the wrong tool for that job....
He recently had a Nissan leaf e+ been fairer to use this. Also no works or home charger so 3 pin plug charging, ridiculous. That’s a petrol head trying to do a comparison.
Keep the Alan Partridge lines coming Matt!
You had me worried for a few minutes...
Not all evs are like this, borrow my model 3 long range with boost (lowered does help) and do your usual runs which it likes the motorway (70mph). I do a daily 146 mile commute and always get home with 50% battery left from fully charged, even booting it off the line a few times and not tiptoeing around either. Ev will not work for everyone but for a car now around £20k that'll do 60mph in under 4 seconds is good for many and £4 a 'tank', it's cheap motoring too on the go if you can home charge as I do, which some can't I know.
Sounds good. How long does it take to recharge 146 miles at home?
@@derekburgess I'd say 5-6 hours based on 3.5miles/kWh and 7kw charger.
too slow. What good is a 4 sec nort to sixty if someone in a 1 litre Micra would beat the Tesla to the destination on a roadtrip@@markburton8303
Most new ev's do this as well. It's the standard
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Don’t stop the partridge references 😂
@@bezoekers yep. It’s like a little game in every video trying to spot the reference 😂
It's all about the camera angles
Good vid Matt, I'm not into them either, my friend has one through work a big VW something or other and Dave thing, promises range until you use wipers, lights or heating, sod that! They didn't take it when we went away for a weekend as couldn't be sure where to charge it and it wouldn't have made the journey! 👍
Hi Matt, great content. The win with EV’s IS home charging. Mine has a 175 mile real world range. Rarely do more than that in a day, even if you have 10 miles left, you wake up with another 175 for few quid.
Mate I know u love your range rovers. Fairplayed as I do too. I'd love to see u test the new Kia 4x4. Ev9 I think it's called. Keep the videos coming. Think I have completed both your channel and tranformotion. Well done bud, all the very best x
I think Matt already has driven one.....
Choosing a short range EV was always going to cause problems but there are ways to make even that car work better for your needs.
1: ABC “Always Be Charging” A decision on the first night to plug in may have been overcome the problem on the second day when you wanted to collect the Mercedes.
2: Consider installing wall connectors, at your dealership at least as that will speed charging. Charging in a 3 pin 13A plug gives you 3Kw (13A X 230V) whilst the Kia Soul is capable of 7.4Kw connected to a 32A wall connector. This will reduce the recharge time on this car by more than half. Also if you intend to sell EVs in the future having wall connectors will benefit your business as it will make it easier to maintain the charge level on vehicles you sell.
Finally, much of what you say about the public charging network is correct but as you also note it’s improving. On top of this most public charging providers give lower charging rates to customers who open an account, tap to pay on a credit card will always be expensive.
I use my Nissan leaf for everyday use and the Range Rover vogue at weekends or longer journeys .
This is how I perceive the average Joe who enjoys his “proper” cars will end up using them… to offset the cost and environmental effect of running an internal combustion car for longer trips or the pleasure of it
Getting a Cupra Born delivered tomorrow. It’s a salary sacrifice lease deal and I can’t afford not to (I have to pay the ULEZ to go to work). But I’ll also be swapping my current E350 coupe for a convertible - probably another Merc for weekends and road trips
Charge it overnight. Yes you do have to be a little bit more prepared with an EV, but that Kia has a tiny battery and probably still goes nearly as far on a charge as his 5ltr RR around town.
Aqua did have a few certified bangers! enjoyable video as always! My wife has a 2022 kia soul, winter range is 220 miles 260+ in the summer. Great little car but still requires charging every 3 days or so.
so 60 to 70 miles a *day* ? That's around three times the average UK daily commute. You are clearly the exception....
There is a simple dynamic with EVs, charge up when you can especially small capacity battery ones. Doesn't matter how long, if you're not using it Charge IT!🤗
We found this out with our second car, we had no budget whatsoever, we could only afford a 24kW Leaf but as a local area runaround we could clock up the miles.
So we took a leaf out of the local taxi firm's book. When ever sitting, charge. Even on a piddling granny charger offers 10 miles in an hour.
A domestic 7kW offers up around 26 miles🤗
ps. our Leaf had a 6.6kW OBC
Was just watching Harrys Garage where he has went back to a diesel Range Rover and you are going to and EV :)
Yeah Harry gave a very interesting review and hits the nail on the head great bit of motoring journalism.
@@narniebone1332opinion of a multi millionaire counts for little
@@gypsyemperor7535 why would his wealth have anything to do with it
I agree, I also watched Harrys review and it was spot on, best Motoring journalist on RUclips@@narniebone1332
@@narniebone1332 the rich can afford to keep ruining the planet
Of course they're quicker (the chargepoints): the "granny charger" will give you only 2.4kW, whereas the chargepoints will be 20 times that. And Zap Map will tell you what the charge will cost you per unit.
Be good to see you do a week with a Tesla long range and how much easier it is with their super charger network and the way the whole system works through the sat nav and charging cost being all set up. I think having high 200’s in miles and the speed of a top up charge makes a lot of difference looking at it from the outside at least.
There are two types of EVs. Teslas and non-Teslas.
I’ve messaged him pretty much that. Tesla Stockport not far away at all and it’d be a complete doddle.
How boring would that be. Tesla's are so meh!
@@rambleon3698 100% u have never driven or sat in one. Utter liar
@@EwanM11 And both are rubbish
Certified Bangers!!! Lovely stuff!
Classic queen
The charging times are more of a bug bear with me compared to range. Its fine if you have a home charger however the public charging infrastructure leaves a lot to be desired, and the cost is usually on a par with a tank of fuel. In addition, it takes minute to fuel up at a petrol pump, whereas its a hour plus, to charge an EV
I've been in a EV just over a year now, since my normal day to day driving charging at home costs 2/3p a mile compared to 16p in a ICE what I do spend using the public charging infrastructure averages out to nothing. if I do charge at public chargers its usually just 10mins to get to my destination, never any more than 30.
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As a retired man I think I'll stick to my diesel engines, it would do my head in sitting around waiting for a car to charge, when I can fill my tank up and do 500 miles with
I don’t sit around waiting for my EV to charge. I take 10 seconds plugging it in, then go in my house. Then in the morning spend 10 seconds unplugging my EV and then drive away with, (if I have chosen to) a full “tank” with around 250 miles of range costing me around 3 pence per mile.
@@69mrhappy1977 So any further than 125 miles away you need a diesel car then! 😂 As you're too tight to charge up away from home!
@@69mrhappy1977where as I can buy a £500 diesel Skoda and get 1000 miles out of a tank for £75. Do the maths
I don't "sit around" waiting for my car to charge. I charge mine during the night while I sleep. This has zero effect on my lifestyle. Once charged, I'm good for 230 miles (around 8 days) or so. How many times do you drive 500 miles in one go, without stopping?
@@69mrhappy1977 3p a mile? Oooh, that's a bit costly.😉😉 British Gas are now offering a tariff at 4.5p per kwh.
1) get one with higher range
(Base model 3 has base 344 miles range)
2) charge it at home at night
Even the Highlands just does 344 miles the base is under 300
To be fair Tesla has similar satisfaction levels to regular fuelled cars. Its the other manufacturers that disappoint massively.
@@Andrew-tb9vr the others disappoint massively? I think they don't, for a start they don't have massive panel gaps
The thing is you have to spend a lot of money to get a decent range on an electric car. Meanwhile almost any petrol/diesel cars has a good range
@@youraveragejoe1 you really don't, you buy an EV based on your needs - most people don't need something that can go 300 miles.
Lots changed with EVs since 2015.
The point is you start every day with a full tank. Pay the money for a proper charger, rather than use a plug.
Range anxiety died about 2019 unless you buy specific low range cars. Heat pumps are way more common.
Public charging can be painful and expensive unless Tesla.
Quite impressed the charger you found worked.
At home on cheap rate you'd fill it for £2.
Range anxiety only vanishes if you only ever drive locally and can charge at home/work.
@@jimpackard8059 what EV do you drive?
@@jimpackard8059 Which actually applies to most people. The average UK daily commute is 20.8 miles, and the average UK motorway journey is 70 to 80 miles.....
@@jimpackard8059 Nope just vanished completely, on my longer trips I stop after driving 3-4hours anyway and the 15-20min it takes to charge is enough time to get something to eat, stretch a little, go to the restroom and off again. And as others have said the average commute for most isn´t that long so it´s the occasional longer trip that is the only time you have to charge away and with most never ev´s you have fast charging and decent range. I have had Teslas for 6years now and only once had range anxiety and that was my fault and not the cars.
even tesla is expensive
I have a Skoda enyaq 80 and it’s lovely. I’ve been getting 230miles + in winter. I have spaced the heat pump which makes a difference to your range. I would highly recommend getting one as there great value
It entirely depends on your own personal use case.
I know I could make one work. But I can't justify the expense or the precipitous depreciation. It would cost me less to keep my old L322 on the road and swallow the running costs / repair bills. Which is pretty crazy TBH
Take advantage of the mega depreciation and get one second hand. No good for business tax, but I've found it is still relatively economical for me to buy second hand and claim mileage. But i do about 2000 miles a month so i skew heavily towards economical cars, can't do much better than an EV with home charging.
@@EwanM11 I have been pondering this. A one year old MG5 with 7k miles on the clock can be picked up for £15k. Less than half price after 12 months
I tend to agree, most of the time as it's a case by case basis. At the moment, I don't need to drive for work, I usually do a lot of my stuff within a 26 mile round trip - however, once every weekend or so I have to drive from Dorset to London or elsewhere for football, so a car like this wouldn't be recommended as a sole car. Instead I've got a 16 year old 1.5l Swift, with only 58,500 on the clock (thank you old people of Hampshire doing 400 miles a year on average), and while it's not the most comfortable after 2 hours driving, it's been reliable, it's fuel efficient, it's not boring to drive and it's relatively cheap - cost only £3,000 around 5/6 years ago.
But why buy new? I saw someone get a really clean 2016 Renault Zoe with 35k miles on it for £4400 a while back. How much depreciation might you expect to see on a Zoe like this? It's lost almost all it's going to lose.....
It’s revues like his that makes people hate Eva’s so drop in value. Should have done his research before, like sensible ev owners do.
My wifes got a hybrid and I've got a Merc. Our plan for the next stage with our cars is likely to be keeping a diesel for long runs and swapping the hybrid for a full EV. Between the two we then have all bases covered until EVs offer the full package. I have absoluetly no doubt they will as well. I expect lots of comments about they are crap but as I say they will be what we are all driving before too long.
We had a range rover (BMW M62) and after selling that we bought a Kia Soul EV, but the newer one with 64kwh battery. We loved the range rover, but seriously the Kia is actually better! We set it up to charge to 80% to preserve the battery on off peak electricity. Every morning it's good for about 200 miles. On a cold day the app allows you to pre heat it, and unlike the Range rover it is pretty reliable.
The newer Kia Soul is very easy to live with, but you are right about public chargers... Total rip off.
Indeed, the larger battery in the newer version makes all the difference. Public charging with a subscription can be way cheaper than paying the "normal" cost. My local charge network charges 38p per kwh on it's heavy user subscription. The non-subscriber costs at most chargers are up around 60 to 80p per kwh.... I smiled at the " unlike the Range Rover, it is pretty reliable" comment..... There's way less to go wrong with an EV. Around 30 moving parts, against thousands for anything with an engine....
@@Brian-om2hh Exactly so! It's actually quite liberating no longer living with a car where the timing chain guides can detonate any moment.
Obviously the key thing with an EV is to avoid that crazy early depreciation. We decided that a 2 year old Kia with 5 years warranty left hit the sweet spot.
Always charge when you can then Yorkshire, not a problem
There was a time buying a second hand car a set of cars mats normally clinched the deal....now I'm going to want a new battery pack, and a set of mats. Keep up the good work, love the different content now and again.
Tbf, in a fair few petrol cars you put the aircon on & you lose 10% fuel efficiency too..
Quite correct.
But it takes 5 mins to fill up a petrol car. not so in an EV.
@@cgln87605-15 minutes and how much is the fuel bill?
Very honest review.
I am just about to take delivery of a Plug in Hybrid with a range of 50 mile on Ev. So in theory you could use this for your commute & have the petrol engine to avoid range anxiety & give you some flexibility.
Also your accountant would probably like the low benefit in kind tax.
Exactly right. You would be using your plug-in hybrid in exactly the way it is intended to be used. I can't understand those who get a plug-in hybrid, then never charge it up. To me, that's tantamount to lunacy. You do need to keep that battery charged up at every opportunity, to maximise the efficiency. Why pay 20p (or more) to cover a mile, when you could do it for (say) an 8th of the cost? .
Nice, fair assessment, Matt. I was nearly convinced but you got me at the £/mile figure. Ok and there's the range issue. For practical and affordable motoring, I use and maintain a high mileage mid-2000s diesel. Sadly, nothing comes close.
All your "New Brake Pad Technology" was available 40 years ago. I should know as I was Quality Assurance Manager at a friction material manufacturer supplying OEM parts to the automotive industry at that time.
So a small battery car with little range is no good for lots of miles. Who would have thunk it.. My EV has 64kw battery with 250-300 miles. Use the right tool for the job.
Lol exactly
Exactly....
And he should know exactly that and not do such a review with a car that doesn´t or just barely fits his needs.
But are there many EVs with 250 mile ranges under £10k? Cause lot everyone has a lot to spend on a new car
if you really need the range there are 160ish mile new shape nissan leaf and possibly 200 mile new shape renault zoe R135 and plenty of 160 mile R110 zoe.you can get first generation zoe that does 70-80 miles for £5k+.He compared a £60-70K range rover to a bottom of the barrel ev.not really a fair comparison.small battery,slow charging if he spent £50k on an ev it would be differant story.300 mile range.full battery in 20 mins.that would be a lot easier to live with.he did absoluelty no research into charging or his car then he will come unstuck and blame ev's.not hard to watch a youtube video or google
I just came back from spain where I rented the 20kwh version of the fiat 500e. I liked it, but I would definitely go for the 42kwh version. UNLESS all you really do is lurk around the backstreets and can charge at home.
I love my BMW I3 - 42KWh battery and 7Kw wall box for overnight charging - moves the game on
i4 M50 is possibly the only EV that would tempt me
Think it looks better than the m440i gran coupe too
Loved this video. I drive a Jaguar I pace. It has a longer range is very well equipped and ridiculously fast. Give it a try. You might like it
Watched with interest and glad you could see the positives as well as the negatives. I've been running an I-pace for the past 13 months and wouldn't change it for an ICE car now. Maybe you should take it out for a couple of days to get a real world impression of an equivalent level EV to the Range Rover.
I have been driving EV''s for just over a year now. Started with a VW ID4, and now I have the Audi Q4 e-Tron 50 Quattro, that Matt did a review on. I easily get over 250 miles of range out of it. It charges up at home overnight, and on the rare occasions that i have had to use a public charger, normally on the motorway, I have mostly had positive experiences. However, if I didn't have the off-road parking and a charging unit at home, I would have to question whether I would have the EV over a diesel/petrol.
Do you charge above 80% regularly?
I too have a Q4 ETron, albeit a 40 rwd. I have only had it 3 months so I’m no expert but I just can’t get over how cheap it is to run. I was getting 31mpg out of my 71 plate A5 which works out roughly £20.70 per 100 miles whereas my Q4 is costing 2.70 per 100 mile. The road tax for the A5 was £570, it’s a no brainer for me, I can’t imagine ever going back to an ICE vehicle again. The car cost more but that’s more than offset by the savings
@@chrishart8548 Only when I am going on a journey of more that 200 miles in one day.
@@stevecarr3019 My VWI D4 is a company car, and the difference in benefit in kind and fuel tax when compared to my previous Audi A5 Diesel are about £700 a month. So my initial view was it was worth going electric for the tax savings. However, I enjoyed the EV experience so much, I bought the Audi Q4 as my personal car. I retire in April this year, so the VW will go back then. Very good car, but the Audi has the edge in many areas.
Wow that is a great saving. Good luck on your retirement, I’m retired now myself
I had a first gen leaf with a similar range. My wife's commute was a 44 miles round trip. You just change your mindset ever so slightly and when you come home at night you plug it in. In this video you could've had no worries had you have done that. I am willing to bet you find time to plug your phone in every night.......it is the same! The latest EVs are a different story anyway but I would still apply the same rule.
You need a performance long range Tesla, that would be an interesting looking term test for you.
I think: If you can charge at home a PHEV is still a reasonable option.
You can do shorter trips fully electric but you still have the long rage with fuel if needed.
The Soul was not a bad car and still is especially with the most recent 2023 model having a 64kWh battery . The range is definitely much improved and the styling is quirky enough to make it quite appealing , like the i3 back in it's day .
But he has a biased agenda, so using a modern capable ev with 200 plus Mike range doesn't suit the AGENDA
@@gypsyemperor7535I can’t take anyone who says ‘Agenda’ seriously.
His point was that it was a cheaper used vehicle with low mileage. It’s what the average person is expected to be driving given the broad push to EVs despite their batteries making their prices unaffordable for many in the first 3 years of their lifespan. That was his point
@@gypsyemperor7535 Modern capable EV's with a 200 mile plus agenda are too expensive for the majority of his buyers so it's fair enough to use this Kia as an example. Sounds to me like it's you that has the agenda.
@@135Ops Matt's Soul will almost certainly find a buyer, although there are other options "out there" too, such as the extremely clean 2016 Renault Zoe, with 35k miles on it I saw someone gat for £4400 a few weeks back....
@@135Ops You'd probably find that most who choose a new EV don't buy, they lease. And there are a couple of reasons for that. 1. Leasing side-steps pretty much all of the effects of depreciation if you're good with the Monthly cost of the lease. 2. You get the opportunity to upgrade to the newer updated model at the end of the lease - usually 3 or 4 years.
I get the impression the best way to view them is to offset the “proper” cars you drive and own… that’s the only reason I’d personally get one (and I’d have a Honda E) if the fun police start to limit the internal combustion trips you can make, and the only way to get to go them is to accumulate “eco” points to do so. What a time to be alive, eh…..
As a “retired” person, it makes good sense! The replacement for my current hybrid will be an EV (as long as the kids haven’t sent me to the nursing home) and given how used EV’s have tanked I’ll be able to pick up a late model for little cost and it will be my last car ever!
Don't do it. If you do you will spend hours waiting for the dangerous thing to charge before catching fire or exploding. Why do you think the values of these abysmal cars has tanked? Because no one in their right mind would buy one. Check out the videos of EV fires they are far more frequent than in ICE cars and burn much hotter giving off toxic poisonous fumes over a wide area
Hate to tell you this but most cars Ev or petrol have tanked. But yes having had two Ev’s being retired they make way more sense especially if you can charge at home.
Interesting video Matt, thanks. Agree with your “two car family” suggestion. We have a FIAT 500e which has a realistic range of 160 miles. It has never been that far in one trip and has only ever needed to charge overnight at home on cheap rate electricity so costs next to nothing to run. Our other car is a Volvo V60 which always does the long trips. Previously had a Jaguar ipace which was brilliant but too expensive, fortunately managed to sell it just at the right time when ev prices were silly high.
I think you do need to try this with a 300+ mile EV and see how the range anxiety is.
Wouldn't suit his AGENDA
His anti-EV agenda which is perfectly tailored to his gammon change-hating audience.
Don't think that would satisfy most of the watchers. Wouldn't fit the agenda when in reality if he picked a half decent ev it would actually be more convenient to use considering he has a driveway to charge it on
Yes, that would only leave him with the insurance cost anxiety, the high purchase price anxiety, the cold weather battery depletion anxiety and the charging point availability/serviceability anxiety to deal with.
@jonl8509 he can charge at home so charger anxiety isn't a thing for him. If it is then buy a tesla. Cold weather is also a non issue, EVs make up 80% of sales in Norway. Battery degradation is a massively overblown non issue- you think manufacturers are giving 8 year battery warranties because they think they will need replacing?! And finally, Matt drives a range rover as a daily... hardly a monument to frugality is it?! He could sell it, buy a model 3 and be quids in. Not to be rude but you are a bit out of date. Most of your concerns were relevant a decade ago. Most people really think they need a range of 500 mile plus. How many of them have ever actually driven that kind of distance in one go?! I've been driving 20 years and I haven't. It's over 7 hours at motorway speed, who is doing that without taking a couple of stops regularly?! Answers: nobody and bullshitters for the sake of winning anti ev arguments on social media
I love your videos but this one felt like you were making a review of all petrol cars based on a week with Fiat Multipla 🤣 Looking forward to a proper review with a Tesla S/3/X/Y
here to stop people from saying "first".
I know. I couldn't stop myself.
Something took over me and made me do it.
I second that 🤣
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Personally I think if you are living where the car can be charged, the default should be to charge it
Hope you re-visit this in 10 years. The infrastructure and cost model will change dramatically in that time. There will even come a time when it’s difficult to find liquid fuel.
I am similar to in that I want an electric car, but it has to make sense, so sticking with RRS/Diesel for the moment.
But as ever, fair and balanced review - great job.
Had a Mini Cooper S EV for 48hours from Halliwell Jones, and it was a good comparison to our petrol Cooper S; performance wise it was identical, and infact quite hilarious launching away from traffic lights.
But the range and extra planning would get on my nerves after a while. They reckon 140 miles is expected but I was closer to 120 with mixed driving and aircon/heated seats on as usual. I have seen people getting a range of 70 miles from a full charge, which you can easily burn through in a Mini Cooper S.
But be honest, you wouldn't choose a Mini if you were planning lots of long motorway journeys, would you? The Mini is marketed as a convenient town and city car, not a motorway cruiser.
@@Brian-om2hh just completed 962 miles in 7 days around mid/south Wales on fast A roads & the M4 in a 2023 Countryman Cooper S and it was extremely comfy.
@@gregg.d It's good you found the Mini comfortable. A friend of mine bought a new Mini Countryman a couple of years back, and I've sat in the front as a passenger. Sadly, I found it anything but comfortable. The seats - particularly the seat bases - didn't feel large enough. I felt as though I was sat *on* them, rather than *in* them..... Compared to my Golf Mk7, the Countryman's ride seemed choppy, and far from smooth.
@@gregg.d You could do the same journey with the electric MINI and charge at the hotel while you were in bed. Every decent hotel I've been has chargers
@@chrishar110 there was no chargers where I was staying, and I think I only saw two down in Carmarthen. Infact, I don’t recall seeing many electric cars in general.
You have answered my question, no not for me a full EV. Have bought my Wife a Hybrid Mitsubishi Outlander and pleased with it up to now. Great video. 👍👍👍👍
"Quite a high spec" = less range. A heated steering wheel and heated seats, whilst nice to have "up north" just sap the battery. Maybe they should include a little petrol generator in the boot to power the heater 😁
Honestly, worrying about heated seats, lights and the radio draining the battery is a bit like worrying you left the tap running on the Titanic. It's nothing.
@@davidquinn5906 It's 10%! Doesn't matter on a short run, but it would matter if you had to go any distance
But you already know that it is a bit limited on range when you get in it..?
Think it might have been the main heating that was doing that anyway, the heated seats and wheel are meant to be more efficient I think so I'd use that personally.
@@Nick_G7IZR I was answering your point about heated seats etc. But I guess Kia cheaped out by not fitting a heap pump for the main heating which is bad.
4:20 @woolychewbakker5277 Take a look at his video again. Start at 4:20 where he turns his climate off and gets 10% more range. Now he may be exaggerating slightly, but that's where I got it from. Complain to Matt 😀
Hyundai Kona, 308 mile range. That’s enough mate, especially with a 7kw home charger.
I went from a Merc SLK to a Tesla Model 3 SR+ I've done many long journeys including a weekend return trip to Darlington from Plymouth, 750 miles charged twice no issues. Keep it on % rather than miles. Won't ever go back to and ICE car.
I agree. EV's are not for everyone. A couple of things surprised me in this video. 1. £7 for a gallon of petrol..whoa! 2. @23:12 Check out the cars parked on the pavement and facing the wrong direction. Where are pedestrians supposed to walk nowadays in the UK?
Your accountant is right! I’ve owned two evs, the BMW i3 and the Mercedes EQC. UNBEATABLE for running costs and plenty of power and torque. they make the BEST daily cars. I can’t see me going back to combustion for a daily ever again tbh.… I’m sure that Kia is fine but try an ev with specs that match up to that of performance cars…. You won’t be disappointed!
And resale value zero when leasing companies figure out they cant sell these second
@@brunozlopasa1106 dont buy it! why would anyone in their right mind buy an EV? lease it of course, resale value is irrelevant on a lease, drive it enjoy it save money, hand it back and pick a new one when the lease it up.
Very fair video. You just need right EV for your particular use. I have long range 220 - 240 realistic miles MG ZS EV that suits any daily/weekly needs. Charging at around £8 per week! The Kia Soul would be fine for typical daily local use.
I was putting my car in for a service last November when one of the salesmen approached me. “Have you thought about replacing your car with an EV?”, I told him that I visit my sister who lives near Penzance. Quick as a flash he say “think of the money you would save on fuel”. I said “I, but the hotel bills would be through the roof” I live in North Cumbria - 950 mile round trip, + I’m the cemetery side of 70
Er, what you SHOULD do is ...FLY to Cornwall ...from Manchester......!!
@@andymccabe6712 Done it a couple of times from Newcastle to Newquay.
But if you charged it the previous night, you’d have no worries Mat (Apologies if that’s the incorrect spelling).
Tesla have it right with their “ABC” system;
Always
Be
Charging
Well just charge when you get home each day.
You say they're great for running about locally but the Kia Soulless start at 32k. EV's like that would be great for running about if they were the same price as an ICE car, but you're never going to get value for money nipping to Bingo and Lidl twice a week, in a 32k car.
if you bought a new one, yes, but he was testing a 9 year old one which will not cost £32k!
@@Hali88 but a new one is 32k. and when new, they have the same range. when new, they're still great for running locally.
It doesn't matter if this one is a second hand car or not, a 32 grand car shouldn't just be great for running around locally.
They don't come off the production line 8 9years old so somebody has to buy them new.
I'd rather spend 20k on a decent second hand petrol car and have 12k to spend on fuel.
@@Hali88 Exactly. I saw someone get a 2016 Renault Zoe with 35k miles on it, for £4400 not long ago.... Why do so may people assume you have to get a *new* EV? There are decent used ones around now....
@@TrevM0nkey- a new one will give you 250+ miles of range, more if you use it in town; things have changed in nine years.
@@Brian-om2hhhe got a very good deal then. On auto trader, 2016 Zoe’s with 35k miles on are going for about 7 grand. Not that bad but certainly not the norm for the price he paid
I always used Ferodo DS11 (front) and VG95 (rear). A heavy pedal with no servo but then they were the competition brake material of the 1960s. You got them free with an international competition licence.
Jack, the Japan Alps Brit
The Kona has a 280 mile range, charge it at 9p/kWh overnight, little more than 2p a mile. And the nice drive you get in an EV. You do need a 7kW charger at home to make the best of it.
Absolutely right, first decent EV is quite a revelation isn't it?
I live in a flat. With 44% in the UK in the same boat. cheap driveway charging isn't going to happen. EV is an exclusive club for people with driveways
You’d be a fool to have an EV and only rely on a public network.
There would be nothing better than coming out of your house in the morning and jumping into an already toasty warm, fully charged EV while everyone else struggles with frozen cars.
My biggest bugbear with EV driving is that people assume if you have an EV car you aren’t interested in cars. They aren’t mutually exclusive. My current car is actually a diesel for the range and the fact I cant afford a remote control car let alone a new car.
But, if I had the money, I’d have an EV for my boring commute stuck in traffic, and have a petrol powered car for the weekend blasts. Something classic like a Lancia Integrale.
@@davidcannon1144 in the UK, the figure is that around 2/3s of dwellings have access to a driveway. In even the most congested towns and cities, that figure is still around 44%.
That is far more than the current takeup of EVs.
In the future those who live in flats like yourself will find that more and more street furniture such as lampposts will have chargers, not to mention workplaces. If your car is sat out in the street it can be charged, if you are otherwise at work, it can be charged. There are ways and means coming, but I appreciate it might not suit. I dont mind EVs but I dont want one as an only car, I want the 5 litre petrol for the weekend too. At the minute though, I have a diesel hack hatchback for the range….
Just get a wee Renault ZOE 180 real world miles. Charging in public points is 22kw AC so 1/2 the price of rapid chargers. Or get the CCS version (slower than others like the corsa). With the ZOE and a phase 3 at work it will be charged in 2-3 hours unless you are on nothing left but you would not so that anyway.
Brilliant car👍
A decent used Tesla Model 3 can be had for around 25k now with the long range having 300miles+ range of battery. Come off a roundabout onto a nice long straight stretch of dual carriageway and floor the tesla. Then report back about how much you miss your V8 after trying that.
if straight line speed and speeding tickets are your only unit of measurement for how enjoyable to drive a car is, then more power to you. some of us like sounds, manual gearboxes, handling dynamics, stuff like that.
After i go on autbahn and put it 200kpm when you go 110 and lose 70 percent of battery and battery degragation of 50 percent after few years report me then
@@brunozlopasa1106 clueless old man thinks an ev battery is just like his mobile phone battery, pathetic mindless sheep blindly accepting what the media tells him.
Hi Matt , you said everything that I thought , I am retired but I couldn’t take the range anxiety ! It’s horses for courses 🙏🙏
So funny seeing you at the charger😂 I own an EV for almost 1 year and I'm so used to it. And you get those £5 back. You didn't mention that...
And I have a Hyundai Kona:
Winter 230-250 miles
Summer or warm: 280-300 miles in one charge
I have done the self same thing swapping my Range Rover Sport for an EV.......Miss the luxury but don't miss the crazy insurance, eyewattering servicing bills & £400+ monthly diesel bills.
Did you get a free jumper with the EV+ brake pads? 😂😂
Why would you need brake pads? My neighbours Hyundai Ioniq lasted 90k miles before it's brake pads were changed.
@@Brian-om2hh was he called Mr Litefoot?
@@Bikeops2021 no particular need for a light foot. EV's have regenerative braking.... Select the appropriate level of regen for the driving you do, and you'll hardly ever touch the brakes.
Great review Matt. We have both petrol and an EV. But that works great for us. The EV in Summer has a range of 309 miles in winter that drops to 290 (we never turn off the A/C). We use the EV for running around and the petrol car for longer journeys. We also mainly charge at home which makes it cheap. However, this won't work for everyone and we couldn't live with just an EV for our lifestyle. We are lucky though and can afford to have both, so that also is a big consideration.
I use my BMW 2.0D and it is marvellous. 4 wheel drive , no range anxiety , no sliding all over the road and a return journey from Aberdeen to Edinburgh is a doddle in one day without stopping for charging / coffee breaks. Did the journey from Southampton where I bought it right up to Edinburgh in one go.
Also possible in an EV. There is a RUclipsr called Richard Symons who drove a Tesla Model Y from Edinburgh to Bournemouth without recharging.
Evs dont slide around, my tesla handles like a dream
Harry's Garage's latest video, where he opted for a diesel Range Rover Sport over a Taycan and the PHEV BMW X5, was interesting! Although his analysis was as a private buyer not through a company.
My mrs has the same car, 65-70m range in winter with heater, heated seats and steering wheel, 13m commute to the train station and I'd rather use her car than my diesel for that kind of a journey... For your use case it doesn't leave you with too much wiggle room if you need to go sonewhere without it being pre-planned.
Swappable battery packs would seem to make sense as it's the time to charge which causes most of that actual problem for close-to- home driving.
The soul is designed as a short range EV , although they do make a 64kwh one I believe . The e-Nero or Tesla model 3 long range would be more than adequate for 80 odd % of people .
Kia were at one point selling both 39kwh and 64kwh versions of the Soul, although I think only the larger battery one is available now. The car Matt has is the first 2015 version, with a much smaller 29 kwh battery.
@@Brian-om2hh yeah , I think it’s actually ~ 27 kwh .
I’m surprised he didn’t suddenly feel the urge to drive to Scotland like anyone else who gets in the drivers seat of an electric car .
@@antoniopalmero4063 The 2015 Matt had was 27kw, but the newer versions were 39kw.
What's your thoughts on the Volkswagen Id ranges ...
You do know there are EV's with like 4 times the range of this car, and are able to charge like 800km per hour. More then enough for all your commutes and much more.
Indeed and some capable of quite alot more then 800km per hour.
What did I get from this video? If you've got the dosh, don't by an 8 year old EV, get one with a decent range and have a proper charging point installed at home. Mine has a range of 250 miles and I've got an EV friendly tariff which means a full charge is usually around nine quid. I've had the car fifteen months and haven't spent a penny on it. I've got a Brera parked up in the garage for sh*ts and giggles and I've virtually stopped using it.
I’m glad as I’m old as I am. The golden years of motoring are gradually fading into the distance and the future is distinctly depressing.
Yeah, i'd love to drive a v8 every day, but burning fuel is just not sustainable long term.
Go test drive a Tesla model 3 performance, fix your depression.
Ok so just imagine the the iconic car chase scene from the film Bullitt with two EV’s . The sound of those V8’s made the movie,