My Jaguar Is SO Much Worse Than I Expected! Jaguar XJR (Pt2)

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  • @Number27
    @Number27  8 месяцев назад +2

    Join NR27 And Get: Members Only Posts and Behind The Scenes Updates!
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    • @oldanslo
      @oldanslo 8 месяцев назад

      You're descending into Hoovie territory, and that's not a good place to be.

    • @Assimilator1
      @Assimilator1 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@oldansloHoovie??

    • @donaldmaguire2345
      @donaldmaguire2345 7 месяцев назад

      @@Assimilator1 I don't quite under stand

    • @Assimilator1
      @Assimilator1 7 месяцев назад

      @@donaldmaguire2345nor I, why are you asking me? ;)

    • @wonyankeesays5661
      @wonyankeesays5661 7 месяцев назад +1

      Man used cars are cheap in the UK,,,same money here in USA would get u a bicycle with both tires flat

  • @PETERNESS
    @PETERNESS 8 месяцев назад +170

    As a mechanic off 40 pus years here in Australia i can assure you this mechanic you have on your show is tip top ,very very solid operator ,to be honest in your 26 minute video i just got educated myself on various things too,outstanding tradesman

    • @mrwebber35
      @mrwebber35 7 месяцев назад

      Didn't see anything wrong with that metal wrap MIT weld repair on the rear frame? I would have thought that was a life and safety issue should the rear bumper takes a good hit. Seen @15:50

    • @travel8033
      @travel8033 6 месяцев назад +1

      You must be "servicing" kangaroos and lame Wallabies,,, lmaoooooooooooooooooooo

    • @harapaki3412
      @harapaki3412 5 месяцев назад

      another armchair mechanic whos read a haynes manual once... lol

  • @chrisb9360
    @chrisb9360 8 месяцев назад +100

    Tom is a RUclips natural. And what a wealth of knowledge he has!

    • @ydrts_915
      @ydrts_915 8 месяцев назад +2

      My thoughts exactly!
      Love the channel btw. I find your interviews especially good (eg that episode with the insurance expert; what otherwise would have been super dry and boring you managed to turn into something i watched start to finish)

    • @lasskinn474
      @lasskinn474 8 месяцев назад

      he's had more confidence to be on camera from being on other channels in past year a fair bit.
      on the autoalexs "£5000 NURBURGRING ADVENTURE!" a car broke on the way, tom had a lorry pick it up, got it to workshop, fixed it and drove it to nurburgring. because he had "worked too hard" to not have the shi***er make it to nurburgring already.

  • @patbeardmore
    @patbeardmore 8 месяцев назад +249

    really like this guy, needs his own channel "the difference between driving home and you getting the bus"

    • @erwinzeeland9390
      @erwinzeeland9390 8 месяцев назад +6

      Brilliant!

    • @andywhiting6361
      @andywhiting6361 8 месяцев назад +22

      He does have his own channel

    • @MatsGarage
      @MatsGarage 8 месяцев назад

      www.youtube.com/@tomlenthallsworkshop

    • @Steve-K.G.
      @Steve-K.G. 8 месяцев назад +14

      Tom Lenthall's Workshop 🙂

    • @kevinoconnor7684
      @kevinoconnor7684 8 месяцев назад +7

      Hi Jack.. I'm in agreement with the other comments.. 😂 was worth getting the Jag just to visit Tom.. great appraisal of the Jag, honest and straightforward love.. hope you've made it home ok.. looking forward to the next part already😊😊

  • @davidnash1220
    @davidnash1220 8 месяцев назад +45

    That Jag Man is Mustard! Really brilliant to see someone who actually knows what he's talking about a true expert 👏

  • @heckmacbuff
    @heckmacbuff 8 месяцев назад +118

    Jaguar owners in the south of England learn this. If anyone knows... Tom Lenthall knows. Please keep this beauty on the road Jack.

    • @tomlenthallsworkshop
      @tomlenthallsworkshop 8 месяцев назад +11

      Thanks 🙏

    • @toffeepie1878
      @toffeepie1878 8 месяцев назад

      I've got a XKRS from 2009 just last month, I am a bit far away but have saved your details​@@tomlenthallsworkshop

    • @chrisdorrell1
      @chrisdorrell1 8 месяцев назад +4

      Number 27 knows FA about any car.

    • @toffeepie1878
      @toffeepie1878 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@chrisdorrell1 strange choice alright

    • @piggypiggypig1746
      @piggypiggypig1746 8 месяцев назад

      Good to know. I hope to buy my first jag, an xkr sometime next year.

  • @latitude9.5north54
    @latitude9.5north54 8 месяцев назад +40

    As a retired MBZ tech, I would recommend a new trans electro-plate, pass-thru seal, filter and fluid. THEN clear the faults and perform the dynamic trans adaptation for better upshift and downshift quality. Gotta drive it with the laptop connected. Step-by-step procedure.

    • @aonone439
      @aonone439 7 месяцев назад +2

      Ex MB tech here when 201, 124 , 126 129 series cars were the best on the road 👍

  • @censon
    @censon 8 месяцев назад +50

    Gotta love Tom's straight talk. He gives you the facts, and realistic options to address.

    • @lptomtom
      @lptomtom 8 месяцев назад +2

      Loved that he didn't sugarcoat the fact that the car wasn't worth £4200

    • @Assimilator1
      @Assimilator1 8 месяцев назад

      @@lptomtomYea, and just about diplomatic about it! 😂

  • @malcolmlane-ley2044
    @malcolmlane-ley2044 8 месяцев назад +53

    Well done Jack, you never fail to keep us stimulated. I have a '98 Mercedes with the same gearbox (722.6) and the electronic connector plug tends to leak and then what happens is the transmission fluid 'wicks' along the wires and you eventually get ATF in the transmission control unit which might even be the same one used in the Jaguar. When I changed the plug and washed out the control unit with electrical contact cleaner spray my gearshifts were improved significantly. It's a very cheap and easy job and maybe by doing this first you may get to the solution earlier, or at least without corrupted or incomplete electrical signals muddying the waters.

    • @tomleaney4780
      @tomleaney4780 8 месяцев назад +19

      Hey Jack, I can echo what Malcolm says. I had a 722.6 in my E430 and had all the faults you have (and more). The problems were that I had a leaking electrical connector, which had wicked oil up into the TCU, the wrong oil at the wrong level, filthy old oil deposits in everything a knackered conductor plate and worn out overlap sleeves. As it happens though, this is no big deal if you have time on your hands. I did a complete strip and rebuild on the conductor plate, valve body and TCU, put new fluid in it and set the level carefully. All good, 100% happy gearbox. Topped a tonne and buttery smooth. Quite what it cost I can't say but if it had been that bad, I would have remembered. I suspect the part bill was somewhere around £300. I have loads of photographs of the process and can put you in touch with the component suppliers.

    • @markLewis-j7i
      @markLewis-j7i 7 месяцев назад

      Same here: cleaned the control unit twice to get rid of the oil and replaced the loom and fine ever since😊​@@tomleaney4780

  • @johnthomson3225
    @johnthomson3225 8 месяцев назад +38

    I have one of these cars. A 1998 with 63000 on it. I use it as a daily driver and love it. It never fails to put a smile on my face. Only Jag I have ever had that doesn't use oil

    • @loetzcollector466
      @loetzcollector466 8 месяцев назад +4

      You are living my dream. I always wanted one of those as a daily driver.
      I'm not looking for the Nuremberg line.
      I just want to blast down the roads in the comfort of a smoking room.

  • @cosmote81
    @cosmote81 8 месяцев назад +31

    Those code readers and old computers for diagnosys are like gold, here in Italy. Very hard to find a garage that still has one. Last summer my XJ8 had a warning light and the message: "Gearbox Fault" but It was "just" the throttle body that was gone and the car put herself into limp mode with the message about the gearbox (She only knows the reason why). I've been very luky (just a refurbished Throttle body because a new one was not available anywhere), but when I read the message, believe me, I nearly felt in desperation (which is the Italian way, despite Pink Floyd). Thank you for the video!

    • @SteveDull
      @SteveDull 8 месяцев назад +2

      Lovin the Floyd reference - hanging on in quiet desperation 👍

  • @oldclassiccarUK
    @oldclassiccarUK 6 месяцев назад +2

    These marque specialists are worth their weight in gold (former X308 XJR owner here), I still get tempted by another X308 sometimes so that overview of the things to check underneath was very useful. PS I'm sure that grey XJS parked outside was racing at Oulton Park in the CSCC series the other day.

  • @rhiantaylor3446
    @rhiantaylor3446 8 месяцев назад +29

    So - the electrical issue might mean a gear change was missed which (if pushing on) means you could reach an overspeed condition i.e. the electrical problem could be at the root of it all.

  • @frikartii
    @frikartii 8 месяцев назад +8

    Fair dues to Tom, he was much more polite about that welding than I'd have been, it's awful. Good luck with the transmission and the minor issues, they're actually a lovely motor.

  • @Lemma01
    @Lemma01 8 месяцев назад +20

    Tom has come to life in this encounter with you, Jack - he was very deferential with Harry, but much more fun in this. Glad you avoided the bus, mate!

    • @GentilsGarage
      @GentilsGarage 8 месяцев назад +4

      Wait until you see Tom with Alex Kersten. It’s comedy gold

  • @nickyburnell
    @nickyburnell 8 месяцев назад +28

    That is a merc box. That plug leaks and syphons up to gb ecu. Fix the leak, dry it all out, ALL the way up to ecu. Done it loads.

    • @johanndork5364
      @johanndork5364 8 месяцев назад +1

      Similar problem on my SL merc, it would stick in first or second gear randomly. Power off/on then ok. Rain getting into that plug.

    • @philldownes8685
      @philldownes8685 8 месяцев назад

      exactly.. that box is not toast,, i would be looking at where the leak is and als osee how much oil left in the box...

  • @bavelnaard
    @bavelnaard 8 месяцев назад +22

    First there was Sir William Lyons, then we got TWR and these days we have Tom Lenthall

  • @alexander1195Berlin
    @alexander1195Berlin 8 месяцев назад +10

    Repaired 3 of these transmissions in different cars as well as in my XJR.
    Dont just replace the plug but also the conductor plate availible from febi bilstein with a removed mercedes logo.
    The sensors go usually bad in the plates while the transmission are bulletproof. My ml430 had also the same problem with over 200th miles. Greeting from Germany;)

  • @paulcruse
    @paulcruse 8 месяцев назад +11

    I had an e39 528i BMW for 20 years. When I first got it, a main dealer diagnosed it as needing a new gearbox as it would not go past 2nd gear unless you changed it yourself (steptronic). And they wanted £4.5k for a new one (in 2002) The gearbox was rebuilt through an aftermarket warranty, but the fault remained. More inspections were done. It was a £65.00 wheel speed sensor. Not sure if the warranty company got the main dealer to cover the mis-diagnosis.

  • @benpenagonzales6014
    @benpenagonzales6014 8 месяцев назад +10

    Lol - I took my second XK8 to Tom and he shattered my dreams! We went from how much for a manual swap and a fuel pump to errr it’s a total rot box! So at least you have a solid starting point Jack. It could be much worse!

  • @JIMWSMITH
    @JIMWSMITH 8 месяцев назад +7

    I worked at a jaguar garage for quite some years , and you have definitely got a good one. I saw many scrapped for rot and engine and gearbox failures. Alot looked like really nice cars until you got them on the ramp . I was always surprised how they rotted because many were pissing and spraying out oil 😂

  • @bobfrankish8883
    @bobfrankish8883 8 месяцев назад +38

    Hi Jack. What a top bloke Tom is. I realise that channel revenue may weigh against costs on this car because we would all be interested in what you do with it, but I would love to dissuade you from putting any money into that car. I don't profess to be a Jaguar specialist, but I know an awful lot about old rusty cars, especially V8's. Firstly, rust issues are worse than they look, always. You need to strip the inlet side of the engine down and if it is full of oil, which I'd bet it will be, then that will be why it had next to no oil in it when you picked it up, indicating a worn engine. Also, we don't seem to know whether the timing chains and guides have been done. Gearbox absolutely smacks of clutch pack issues. If you add up all the bad bits, not forgetting the interior, it is going to be massive financially to get sorted. I do all my own painting, it is the only way I can afford to restore anything to a decent standard, and that is because the "little bit of paint" scenario generally adds up to a grand.

  • @Levenstone132
    @Levenstone132 8 месяцев назад +14

    A brand new one of these beauties pulled into a filling station,that lovely teal blue colour they did. I was so distracted by it's lovelyness I put petrol in my brand new Citroen van! Keep it going. A real headturner amongst the ugly blobs cluttering up the roads.

  • @MiguelAngelPuig-kd4hn
    @MiguelAngelPuig-kd4hn 8 месяцев назад +6

    Thanks for speaking "so clear " in the vídeos. Its much easier for "non english speakers" to understand everything without hardly read subtitles and enjoy the beautiful images from the tests... Its a really pleasure. 😊

    • @Number27
      @Number27  8 месяцев назад +4

      You're very welcome! Thank you for watching 🙏

  • @lewisbrown7868
    @lewisbrown7868 8 месяцев назад +14

    Jack gearbox isn’t toast, you need to change the pilot bush plug it has two oil ring seals on the new plug bush £25 from Mercs then you need to find the actual external mercedes gearbox control unit unplug it and clean the oil from the plug pin and open the control unit case and clean the board from oil, oil wicks up the loom to the control unit
    Very common in the w210 and old MLs, w203 etc

    • @grumpyweds443
      @grumpyweds443 8 месяцев назад

      Not too bad really, the plug is secured by a slide lock and a small bolt, pretty easy once you have the car lifted. I would guess the fault could be the solenoid board. A common issue especially if you have a leak and containments got in. If it's mechanical though, rebuild time.

  • @jamesreed7528
    @jamesreed7528 7 месяцев назад +2

    I've been driving Jaguars for 10 years now (2000 XJ8, 2011 XJL). Have had to accomplish no maintenance other than oil changes. Totally satisfied (except for sagging headliner, both cars).

  • @Chris-du3jc
    @Chris-du3jc 8 месяцев назад +18

    Can’t really be Tom. Wasn’t remotely swearing enough. Legend!

  • @roygardiner2229
    @roygardiner2229 8 месяцев назад +4

    I don't own a car but love Jaguars and that truly interested me. I got the impression that Tom Lenthall is a very knowledgeable and sound man. I would take my car to him for servicing if I had a Jaguar. 👍

  • @channex8179
    @channex8179 8 месяцев назад +11

    I knew you would end up going to Tom Lenthal when you asked if anybody knew a good jaguar specialist near Oxfordshire in your last video. You can't go wrong with Tom

  • @paultucker1272
    @paultucker1272 8 месяцев назад +8

    Ouch.....good luck with the gearbox. I hope you stick with this car. I hate to see cars with a low value effectively written off because of an expensive fault, especially a car as cool as this one. Lets hope you can fix it and keep him on the road!

  • @Michael-hg6ky
    @Michael-hg6ky 8 месяцев назад +3

    What a great diagnostic overview with Tom, he is a gem. I watched with great interest as I have recently acquired a 2004 XJR and I'm finding out that learning about the intricacies of these beautiful beasts is becoming a full time obsession. It may hurt to get the transmission rebuilt but they don't make these iconic classics anymore and I doubt you bought a Jaguar from this era expecting it to be an economical and no issues purchase. It looks like this car has good bones and will treat you well once you get it back into full operating condition. Keep going with the videos, we will be watching.

  • @leolopezvalido1892
    @leolopezvalido1892 8 месяцев назад +3

    Hello Jack! Loved that honest video and input from the experienced Tom. As you both know, any 20+ year old Jaguar will have the odd fault no matter how well looked after...
    Reading your viewers valuable comments - and Tom's - it appears your XJR is well above average condition.
    As for the your gearbox problem, from my personal experience - these are exceptionally robust. Having said that, I belive the damp - especially if never drying out - can cause headaches, not just on lower bodywork but specifically on electrical connectors/plugs.
    My '98 XJR, a 182k miles young, would occasionally "throw up" electrical faults when I first imported her from the UK to Spain. Over time these "amber" faults dissappeared. I belive that, apart from looking after her, the mostly dry conditions here - and garaged too - helped enormously to erase these faults.
    In my little village I have a very competent mechanic and we have an agreement: I buy any parts needed and he (they) carry out the labour.
    The 5/30 motor oil and filter is renewed every 6 months, about 60 euros all in, and we follow the "service instructions" for the rest: Apart from the gearbox oil! This he renewed - with filter - when I first brought the car over here: it was showing the same symptons as yours, sometimes hesitating on upchange, eventually that amber light warning. The gearbox "service" cured that permenantly. At about 250 euros all in, it's about the most expensive bill I've paid - although another full engine service, including spark plugs and supercharger service etc - cost about the same some years ago.
    About 10 years ago I paid 3200 pounds for her, plus 1000 pounds to have her transported to here. Keeping the above in mind, taking her to a Main Dealer for any work doesn't make any financial sense. And, like yourself Jack, I do as much
    as I can myself to keep her in tip top shape, regularly waxing her (no jokes please!) and am manic about a spotless interior. The result is that she wears her patina well.
    The couple of rust bubbles haven't got any worse over the years.. and when the roofliner began to sag some years back, a local trimmer tightened it back up - with a scalpel and good glue - for practically nothing.
    I've replaced all 4 tyres twice... and my choice will seem sacriledge to some of you.. please bear with me: the 255/40 18 are not only difficult to find here but also expensive compared to the deals available in the UK. The best brands - Pirelli, Bridgestone, Michelin etc., - are well over 300 euros a corner here in Spain. The brand PHI is nowhere near as capable I'll agree. But at 103 euros each - including fitting, valves and balancing - their deficit has been much more.. paletable.
    The bumpy roads here merits a wheel alignment every 6 months or so.. and have found that a fraction more front toe in helps my style of driving on these roads. I've also done a couple of other simple "mods" including taking out the airfilter box and ancillaries, replacing that with a disposable high flow "knuckle" airfilter. I replace that a couple of times per anum at about 20 euros per time. Also, by accident, I found a simple way of "deleting" the 5th gear speed limiter. (If anyone is interested please contact me.)
    Everything works as it should and, apart from the original Motorola phone, I frequently use all equipment - the cruise control so useful for accelerating and slowing often done with my fingertips! Also simple things like regularly greasing the electric ariel lets it work as it should. I have the warning alerts in Spanish too! Just scroll the menu and most languages are available..
    have yours in Italian Jack!
    I hope your XJR becomes as special to you as mine is to myself. My partner and I have a Mk1 Ford Focus as our daily car. A brilliant, reliable and fun car - thank you Richard Parry-Jones - that complements the "special occasion" XJR. They even have something in common. What? The car key!
    The comments from your viewers read so positively.. it appears most miss the one they once owned...
    A great video and a favourite model of many Jaguar enthusiasts. The best of this dying breed...
    Good luck Jack!

  • @popuptoaster
    @popuptoaster 8 месяцев назад +13

    If that's a version of the big Merc auto from the 90's that went into things like the W210 they are known for leaking fluid into the wiring plug and screwing it up, usually replacing the plug fixes most gearbox issues.

  • @geekandguide
    @geekandguide 8 месяцев назад +2

    Dipped into this for two minutes over a cup of tea intending to watch the rest later. Found myself still sat here after 19 minutes. Always good to see somebody who really knows their speciality. Also quite an education - that Jag's got bits I didn't even know existed.

  • @simonhodgetts6530
    @simonhodgetts6530 8 месяцев назад +5

    Tom’s a good egg - that was a very considered and pragmatic assessment!

  • @andrewgreenhalgh4076
    @andrewgreenhalgh4076 8 месяцев назад +6

    Great vid.. well done Jack. You and Tom made a very watchable double act. Keep em coming.

  • @adamlee3772
    @adamlee3772 8 месяцев назад +3

    Love how the mechanic is referring to “corrosion.” I’m a material scientist and corrosion engineer. I keep telling people, “rust” is a colour. I’d send any of my cars to this guy in a heartbeat.

  • @philipdubuque9596
    @philipdubuque9596 8 месяцев назад +2

    So glad to see that you got home without getting on a bus! Great episode. I'll be watching with interest as you get to work on this very cool Jag.

  • @GadgetUK164
    @GadgetUK164 8 месяцев назад +2

    I really hope to see all the wonderful work this chap can do to your Jag!

  • @simonhjc
    @simonhjc 8 месяцев назад +8

    “My gut feeling is… “that its f*^ked” “yea”…..
    Youre a braver man than me Jack.
    This is so good ive had it playing whilst preparing breakfast. Couldnt wait

  • @dadcars
    @dadcars 8 месяцев назад +1

    Really enjoyed this! Love Tom and met him briefly at the NEC last year, had me smiling a lot watching this with all the back and forth 😅👏

  • @theodavies8754
    @theodavies8754 8 месяцев назад +3

    That era Ford jaguar needs a tip top battery.
    Low voltage will cause so many issues.
    Fuel pump,sunroof module,gear box solenoids not holding.
    Replace the battery first.

  • @ingeniousbraveheart
    @ingeniousbraveheart 8 месяцев назад +2

    A breath of fresh air a Guy who knows what he is talking about No Bull just honest facts Just like Harrys Garage and Tom Lenthall fantastic knowledge and honest man Priceless in this day and age ❤

  • @LarsAgerbk
    @LarsAgerbk 8 месяцев назад +13

    0:09 that is a very cool transition. Well done!

  • @woodrimcars2324
    @woodrimcars2324 8 месяцев назад +2

    Do like Tom a very nice and knowledgeable professional.
    I bought my X300 in Southern Spain and drove it back to France its first journey with me a 1,000 miles trouble free.
    On inspection in my workshop it was even better zero rust anywhere.
    Winter weather is the killer.
    We have to look after these cars as they will never ever be made like this again.
    Great video.

  • @helenlloyd6564
    @helenlloyd6564 8 месяцев назад +1

    Been a Jaguar enthusiast since a child. I bought a 2000 W reg XJ8 one owner 44k for £2,500 in good condition. The car is looked after by Mister Matic pure Jaguar Swansea.Highly knowledgeable the mechanics are Jaguar enthusiasts with many owning Jags. Real keen to keep these beauties on the road. The service they provide can only be described as brilliant and also the lady on reception is welcoming and polite.

  • @1995RangeRover
    @1995RangeRover 8 месяцев назад +15

    Tom needs to start a channel...he's a very valuable tech! Great vid as usual...cheers!

  • @JasonNeil
    @JasonNeil 8 месяцев назад +1

    I had the same incorrect gear ratio on my XJ8 X350 ZF transmission. It was doing all sorts of nasties, lurch, squawk, hunting (when the torque converter doesn’t know when to lock) and getting stuck not shifting mid kick down throwing up that same error. Notoriously known for sealed for life issues and early torque converter issues. BUT! I fixed it today. I’ve had the car for a couple of weeks waiting on parts and thinking the transmission was wrecked. Changed oil and filter, plug connector seal and also went further and changed all the valve body seals. Fresh ZF fluid and it’s running great. ALL issues gone. But here’s the thing. Someone at some point has tried an oil refresh, hasn’t done the proper fill process and short filled the box. About 3 litres came out, 6.3 litres went in…. Low oil can do what you’re experiencing and seeing as you have a leak, try a full tranny service and hope for the best!

  • @thatcheapguy525
    @thatcheapguy525 8 месяцев назад +2

    Toms a top bloke, really like his style.
    I guess when you buy an old barge like this you should pay what it will fetch at auction or a bit more than a breaker will give for it. one fairly innocuous problem could render it a scrapper.

  • @mikewysko2268
    @mikewysko2268 8 месяцев назад +1

    Always enjoy spending time in the shop with a knowledgeable technician. 🛠 Excellent learning opportunity.

  • @ewanoffshore
    @ewanoffshore 8 месяцев назад +10

    I had no idea Harry Enfield was a Jag man…

  • @paulbargerstock6599
    @paulbargerstock6599 8 месяцев назад +2

    Had 2 of the x308s, and 1 of the next gen x350 xjrs. All in black. Mine were in about the same shape as yours. The x308s are, imho, one of the most timeless, beautifully designed cars I have seen. I will probably end up with one again at some point. Had trans issues with 2 out of 3. Damn that limp mode! Lol. Luckily, the ol restart will usually get you home. One thing Tom may have not mentioned is the infamous "hose of death" mounted underneath the supercharger. It's for the throttle body heater. On the non supercharged cars, replacement is simple. On the supercharged model, the entire supercharger must come off to get to it. I believe I invented a few new cuss words during that repair. Hopefully, it's been replaced, perhaps along with the other new hoses Tom noted. Unfortunately, all the Jags left in favor of an '03 Merc S55 amg. I tell ya, depreciation is awesome for a guy who can turn a wrench (or spanner on your side of the pond). I paid $3500 for the Merc and drove it home, $2200 or less, for each of the Jags. I still miss the look of the Jags, but the 493hp/516lb ft of power in the S55 helps me forget 😊. Great video, Tom looks to be an honest, experienced, and entertaining fellow. Folks like him are in high demand/short supply these days. Good luck. Looking forward to watching your next installment.

  • @trevorbrooks813
    @trevorbrooks813 8 месяцев назад +4

    It's odd to hit the 'like' button when the news is not too good. Good luck Jack, hope it turns out better than it seems 🤞

  • @MrSonicAdvance
    @MrSonicAdvance 8 месяцев назад +7

    I can tell you don't hand wash your car, as washing and drying a car is a great way of finding all the bodywork issues on it.

  • @Joe-e9s
    @Joe-e9s 8 месяцев назад +1

    I would definitely trust this shop for repairs as he is super honest

  • @martinda7446
    @martinda7446 8 месяцев назад +13

    What a wonderful mechanic. Loved the guy. Great video. (As usual...). Sorry about the Jag.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  8 месяцев назад +2

      No worries!! It’s not that bad really and I’ll find a way of fixing it!

    • @tomlenthallsworkshop
      @tomlenthallsworkshop 8 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks 🙏

    • @john1703
      @john1703 8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you both for your service to Jaguar-kind.

  • @colmoconnor1349
    @colmoconnor1349 8 месяцев назад +2

    My experience with these cars has told me that malfunctioning ABS sensors can throw up all sorts of gearbox issues which go as soon as the sensor is replaced.

  • @wearetomorrowspast.5617
    @wearetomorrowspast.5617 8 месяцев назад +3

    Hat's off to Jack for keeping a cool old car on the road.

  • @sams8591
    @sams8591 8 месяцев назад +4

    You can’t beat the x308 xjr.
    Last of the low roofline xjs and the best looking. I used to own one and loved it until corrosion killed it at close to 180k miles. I’ve got a Quattroporte 5 now and while it is an amazing car (truely special), I still think the XJR has it licked on looks. In black with the asteroid wheels, I’m not sure there’s ever been a better looking saloon.

    • @georgebettiol8338
      @georgebettiol8338 8 месяцев назад

      While I do like the Jag, I much prefer the looks of your Maserati Quattroporte - which is sensational. Only Maserati could design a 4-door with styling that completely outshines the 2-door version.

  • @jamesmurphy1389
    @jamesmurphy1389 8 месяцев назад +1

    Cracking video, Jack. Two great characters - and a third with the Jag itself! - Have we got another 'Influenzo' on our hands?😎

  • @selwynandrews9665
    @selwynandrews9665 8 месяцев назад

    Always a pleasure to watch an extremely competent professional do their stuff! Hope you get Reg sorted.

  • @MrBeugh
    @MrBeugh 7 месяцев назад +1

    My 2004 XJR Vanden Plas had the gearbox fault code. I replaced the transmission cooling lines, found several vacuum leak, and once addressed, the car ran beautifully.

  • @rustyturner431
    @rustyturner431 8 месяцев назад +6

    Well, Jack... I've tossed a pinch of salt over my shoulder for luck for you. My old tomcat Reggie made it to almost 18, which is damn old in human years, and he chased both puss-cats and rats right to the end, catching both with some regularity. Of course, he didn't have all these electronic gubbins to go bad. This sort of thing is why I love my old analog cars so much and refuse to replace any of them with newer whiz-bang versions. Crossed fingers and all that...cheers!

  • @alphakky
    @alphakky 8 месяцев назад +2

    Let me translate for the Colonies: damper-shock absorber, wing-fender, bush-bushing, MoT-Ministry of Transport inspection, passenger side-driver's side, zed-zee. 😉

  • @JoeMcMorrow-k7e
    @JoeMcMorrow-k7e 8 месяцев назад +2

    Presents me with chilling memories of when I impulse bought an XJ-S V12 5.3 H.E. on an X plate (82) in 1990. At the time I was trawling through "Exchange & Mart" and every seller I called said "sorry it's been sold". I paid £4,995 for this car and when I brought it to my mechanic "Staf" - he phoned me later at work and I will never forget it, he said "Are you sitting down?". Later he said "Honestly, the C*** who sold you this car wants putting against a wall and shooting".

    • @Rab-ql6en
      @Rab-ql6en 26 дней назад

      Been there! 😂😂😂

  • @badgerbob8776
    @badgerbob8776 8 месяцев назад +4

    Really enjoyed that, thanks. Good opportunity to stick a manual in it :)

    • @ben_jam
      @ben_jam 8 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, why not - although Tom said the V8 conversion is steep ££ !!

    • @leeevernden
      @leeevernden 8 месяцев назад

      I was once quoted £12k for a manual swap in one of those. Too much electronics to unpick which is where most of the cost comes from.

  • @Leo555ZZZ
    @Leo555ZZZ 8 месяцев назад +2

    722.6 Transmission , needs a new conductor plate on the valve body , new pilot bushing electrical connector and clean the trans control unit and the plug.
    This is normal maintenance after 15 years or so.
    Easy.

  • @nicce12
    @nicce12 8 месяцев назад +5

    LOL - You know your brittish motors when you noted that the diff is not leaking and ask - "Does that mean it is out of oil?!

  • @NZBRG1
    @NZBRG1 8 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome video for somebody wanting to buy a Jag XJ8. Thanks Jack and Tom.

  • @Spenny909
    @Spenny909 8 месяцев назад +4

    I have enjoyed many of your vids of TVRs, Jags, and Lotus cars. Time I subscribed. Also, you took a hit for our entertainment. I feel for you. My heart would sink learning of these issues on a new car. Hence, I contribute with a tiny donation. Good luck to Reggie. Hope you can bring him back to life. The Jag mechanic looks good. Great to learn of him.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  8 месяцев назад +1

      Hey Spenny, that’s really kind, I really appreciate it!! And really glad you’re enjoying the vids!!

    • @Spenny909
      @Spenny909 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Number27 A question regarding the rust underneath. I wondered why people don't oil or protect the underside of their cars. I would like to see when you coat the, e.g., A frame, etc. Regardless of parts being galvanised, I think this should be done anyway. I'll ask a specialist to do my FF.

    • @Roger.Coleman1949
      @Roger.Coleman1949 8 месяцев назад +1

      I couldn't agree more.I have inherited my brother's ' 89 Ford Sierra 2.0 Ghia estate , bought off eBay 18 years ago with 27K miles .He'd had an average one before which gave good long reliable service but it eventually fell to bits !.Looking for a worthy replacement and this one came up owned from new by a marine engineer who'd from new injected oil into every vulnerable orifice , mechanics and structure and despite now in semi-retirement for pleasure use , it is still like new everywhere
      and always commented on when it goes for an MOT and always asked if it is for sale ? !.Also recently involved seeing many quite recent prestige cars underneath and surprised at the advanced decline through lack of protective oil which would have been so worth while in the vehicles early years .
      new everywhere

    • @Spenny909
      @Spenny909 8 месяцев назад

      @@Roger.Coleman1949 I would like to know what oil he used, if you know or can find out.

    • @Roger.Coleman1949
      @Roger.Coleman1949 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Spenny909 I don't know but have kept it all ' topped up ' annually using a particularly oily motorcycle chain lube in an aerosol which should be more than sufficient and chases off damp and wet .The guy was called ' Chris Brown Marine ' down in Devon and was the son of the original owner who'd had it passed down .

  • @superchargedxjr
    @superchargedxjr 14 дней назад

    The likes of Tom Lenthall are essential for owners of these old jags. I have used XJ Motors in Lyne (Chertsey) for over 20 years. Chris Palmer and Sean Collin at XJ Motors have that wealth of knowledge and experience that I can also see in Tom. My current Jag X308 has done 236,000 miles and I still love it!!

  • @ben_jam
    @ben_jam 8 месяцев назад +2

    Oh wow what a dilemma !! Think the worst hope for the best, Tom is a hero, buy more Jags to get him on !!

  • @ryanmccormick2150
    @ryanmccormick2150 8 месяцев назад +5

    I really enjoy this kind of content Jack, nothing better than a fixer upper for entertainment 👍

    • @Number27
      @Number27  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks chap! Take it easy

    • @ryanmccormick2150
      @ryanmccormick2150 8 месяцев назад

      @@Number27 you too Jack 👍

  • @andrewthompsonuk1
    @andrewthompsonuk1 8 месяцев назад +1

    The simplest way to stop that rust underneath is to coat everything that is rusty with Copperslip antiseize grease. I have been doing this for the last 20 years and its enabled me to use 25 plus year old cars all year round. The big thing about Copperslip is a glob of it will protect 10 cm or so around it. I would use about 3 pots on on that.. Scraping and painting is a complete waste of time unless you want a summer only car and you enjoy looking at the underside... Under seal is usually totally useless just retaining moisture where you don't want it.

  • @aalabbasi
    @aalabbasi 7 месяцев назад +1

    On the 722.6 transmission, that plug and the conductor plate which controls the valve body are almost service items give how often they fail. I've done at least three on my cars. Change the plug and the conductor plate and use good quality gear oil like redline D4, then see what happens. Also check the plug at the transmission control unit to make sure that the oil leaked has not travelled to the TCU which could create problems. The oil can travel up the wiring harness and make its way to the computer.
    All of the above are very common checks when having 722.6 transmission fault issues on a Mercedes Benz and should also be checked on this car.

  • @davefish4965
    @davefish4965 8 месяцев назад

    Very enjoyable watching and a pleasure to listen to a tech who knows his job and explains clearly

  • @MYXJRJAGX308
    @MYXJRJAGX308 8 месяцев назад +1

    Simply one of the best indeep vids of the XJR on YT. Greetings from a German Jaaag addict and save this baby.

  • @ian-nz-2000
    @ian-nz-2000 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nice video Jack, Tom reminds me of my local "Jag Man" 😀
    Now I can see why we don't import used cars from the UK here in New Zealand! If that car was NZ new, there wouldn't be a spot of rust on it...

  • @Saaketti
    @Saaketti 8 месяцев назад +1

    Oil in the gearbox connector will mess up the signals yes. But if there is metallic dirt in the rear wheel speed sensors. It will throw the gearbox off. Even if the abs does not show any codes from it. Having a Genrad touchscreen unit in a shop is a gem. As Tom said, it is the only the best for early Ford era Jaguars.

    • @roystonvehicles9129
      @roystonvehicles9129 8 месяцев назад

      Maybe abs sensor is affecting the changes, ecu picks up speed from them, I'd do that and do the electrical plug and leak, might be down on fluid due to leak.

  • @76Aston
    @76Aston 8 месяцев назад

    This video really touches home... Upon the advice of my ex-mechanic (an experienced Jag guy), I bought a 1996 XJR. The first year of ownership was great, then the honeymoon was over... real quick. The car soon started costing me about $1500 a month on repairs, month after month after month. I couldn't sell it fast enough! In contrast, and perhaps surprising to many, my 1976 Aston, which I've had for 20 years, has proven far more reliable and less expensive to maintain...

    • @lewis72
      @lewis72 8 месяцев назад

      Luck of the draw IMO.
      Those straight-6 engined Jags were generally solid.
      Rust got all cars in the '90s and earlier.

  • @davebudd1429
    @davebudd1429 8 месяцев назад

    Hey there, I just bought an XJ40 about the same time you did, over here in Seattle, USA. I'm pulling for you! So far mine has been great, just a little slow to start up in this miserable February weather. Cheers.

  • @d-rg.karamitev9796
    @d-rg.karamitev9796 8 месяцев назад

    Such a great episode Jack! I still have some hopes that the repair bill would eventually come up lower than expected after the thorough assessment of Tom …Fingers crossed 🤞

  • @martyntaylor5709
    @martyntaylor5709 8 месяцев назад

    I wish I could have found a specialist like that when I had my x350. He knows his stuff.

  • @efaracing4000
    @efaracing4000 4 месяца назад

    Hope tom reads these comments he gets a lot of love and it's well deserved hes got lots of knowledge stored up top you can tell

  • @sebastiend.5335
    @sebastiend.5335 8 месяцев назад

    Love that smile when you got that result for the front suspension!
    Greetings from the Netherlands

  • @triotecgmbh2964
    @triotecgmbh2964 8 месяцев назад +1

    I like all XJs starting with the Series 1 up to the X308. I had the pleasure of driving an XJ81 Majestic Insignia and then an X300. Both were sloppily made, rust-prone cars with a catastrophic chassis set-up. But they had character, they were exactly at the opposite end of the automotive spectrum from the Ferrari and the two Maseratis that I had at the same time. Luckily, I had a capable workshop that always reliably repaired the Jaguars' numerous breakdowns. Despite the poor workmanship of these British cars, for me they were very efficient in terms of smiles per miles and smiles per euro spent :-)

  • @pauldavies9464
    @pauldavies9464 8 месяцев назад +2

    My XJR cut out in the fast lane ,cruised to the hard shoulder and restarted the car.
    Turned out to be sticking throttle body, very gummed up but cleaned it up and it was ok.
    Happened a couple of times and I believe it was a recall on the throttle,you can still get the recall throttle body secondhand but i just cleaned mine periodically,cheap fix.

    • @superchargedxjr
      @superchargedxjr 14 дней назад

      Hi Paul
      I had the very same issue with a 1998 XJR V8 about 15 years ago. Travelling on M25 in the outside lane but thankfully managed to "cruise" and negotiate trough traffic to the "hard shoulder". Frightening experience!! I wrote to Jaguar Cars at the time and they arranged for the throttle-body to be replaced at main dealer H R Owen. From memory cost Jaguar Cars £1,200 plus!!
      Some years later I experienced "throttle hesitation" on my current vehicle 2002 XJ8 and suspected the throttle body. I removed the plastic inlet tract and noted that some residue in the throttle-body. Cleaned it up and ok.
      I now clean the air box/ filter, MAF, inlet tract, and throttle-body every 6 months. She "sings like a bird" even with 236,000 miles!!

  • @stephenricketts7764
    @stephenricketts7764 8 месяцев назад +1

    Overall then not bad. I think what you pay for a car is down to what you think it is worth having done your research. First thing I would do is replace the loom having done the resistance test. As I understand it Tom is not saying you need to replace the entire car loom just part of it. Once that is done you can then decide if the gearbox needs to be replaced, you might be lucky and the electrical replacement has cured the problem. If there is a need for a gearbox change I would look at a reconditioned box, you get the 'new' box put it in then take the 'old' one in as part exchange. I have no idea of the cost but it is something I have done in the past but I should point out, not on a Jaguar. An alternative would be to find a lower mileage box but you could be taking a big risk going down that route and you need to ask yourself if that would be worth it. I will stop the waffle now and say thanks for the update on Reg, don't lose any sleep Jack! 👍👍

  • @JangosGaragebrokendreams
    @JangosGaragebrokendreams 8 месяцев назад +2

    I know that gearbox well and I would say it's the wiring plug oil leak. see it many times bringing on warning lights and makeing the box stick in gear etc swap the the plug and seals also change the electro plate and filter in side the box easy job.

  • @michaelvincent8530
    @michaelvincent8530 8 месяцев назад

    Well, now this takes me back to the Influenzo days, and I must admit this is the stuff I've been missing. Now youve got me again and I wish you all the best in your quest to sort it- and the reason I love this sort of stuff..... we've all been here too! Good luck mate, not great news for you but from a selfish point of view a classic episode and who knows maybe another cult classic like the Ferrari?!

  • @nigelbullock9039
    @nigelbullock9039 8 месяцев назад +1

    Fingers crossed you can keep it alive.....Great video

  • @kevinmoffatt
    @kevinmoffatt 8 месяцев назад +1

    Got a Range Rover specialist near us and regularly pass their yard when walking dog. Missus asked me why always same cars parked outside; I replied that RR's don't ever actually go anywhere as their much more reliable when stationary.

    • @lewis72
      @lewis72 8 месяцев назад +1

      Range Rovers are great offroad cars.

  • @jameslaidler2152
    @jameslaidler2152 8 месяцев назад

    Best of luck mate, I ADORE older Jags like these. Really hope to someday own my own.

  • @Rose.Of.Hizaki
    @Rose.Of.Hizaki 8 месяцев назад +7

    HA! I called it! I knew it was going to be a trip down to Tom Lenthalls!

    • @lptomtom
      @lptomtom 8 месяцев назад +1

      He's like Misha for the Nurburgring, every RUclipsr who gets a Jag goes to see him

  • @golders99
    @golders99 8 месяцев назад +1

    Spray some Lanoguard on those chassis parts. Brilliant stuff.

  • @loveisall5520
    @loveisall5520 Месяц назад

    What a pleasure to watch this gentleman analysis!

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 8 месяцев назад +3

    That left front ding looks as though a paintless repair might be possible/

  • @chrisflee1
    @chrisflee1 8 месяцев назад +1

    I love my XJR100. Funny when the rust items were pointed out, I thought they were looking over my car as they are in exactly the same places.

  • @paultaylor9652
    @paultaylor9652 8 месяцев назад

    You always end your videos of your own cars with a smile on your face Jack, whatever the results. Great video, nice to see a bit of honesty in the motor trade from Tom.

  • @R-K61
    @R-K61 8 месяцев назад

    Something I noted was the Mercedes gearbox, I had a ML320 and the symptoms were similar to yours, changed the solenoids, cleaned the valve body, filters,and swapped the loom from the box due to oil in it, still the same, it finally was down to the correct version of AT fluid at the correct level. Worth draining and sticking the right type and amount of ATF in it, plus check the fluid in the plug and clean it.