I made a video about settings on my channel, I'd suggest checking it out, though I've recently bumped the sensitivity up to about 110-120% (since that video)
I find the new SMG 08/18 useless now. _Way_ too fast now. I loved the way it sounded as a slower fire rate. It was also more manageable in close to medium ranges.
The m1917 trench carbine for the assault, is my new favorite assault weapon. The assault class' biggest weakness was its range, but now with the m1917, it fills that gap. I just absolutely love its accuracy, range, and versatility. I don't really care about it's CQC killing potential, since CQC is not too common on large Battlefield Maps, but this weapon does fine in CQC. A lot of people talk about the ribeyrolles, but you have to be bipodded to use it at range, which is hard to do and is a death sentence, whereas the m1917 can be used while standing and on the move. I also feel like the lmgs got their accuracy nerfed which was the only reason I played support to begin with, so this completely shut me down to the support class after the Patch and I hate the changes. That was until I picked up the Huot, it's my new favorite lmg and I feel useful again.
Alfamari Alfamari so you probably hate the parabellum lol...anyways you should stop being lazy and give yourself a challenge and learn the recoil for the support guns cuz it’s very rewarding to kill👍🏼
Endrit No, the parabellum was my go to cqc lmg before the lmg 08. Its not the recoil thats a problem, its the spread, if a gun has bad recoil and good spread, thats fine because you can actually manage that. The problem is its the spread that you can't do shit about. You're aiming on target but isn't it a fun mechanic to make it so you aren't rewarded for good aim, and its all up to chance instead of skill? And before you say tap/burst fire, no, that doesn't work either. Anything beyond the first shot is a miss, so you are stuck with a semi auto lmg, shooting one bullet at a time so you can actually hit whats in front of you. Why the fuck would you pick the support class to use a semi auto weapon thats far less effective than a medic rifle? Its not lazy, its not a challenge, its not recoil, its that spread is a bullshit game mechanic, that makes guns completely useless, takes out all the skill in a game, and substitutes it for chance. Besides, why is it rewarding to get a kill with an lmg in the first place? Snipers are the only class that it should feel "rewarding" to get a kill with.
Joshua Beauchamp danm that’s an old ass comment, but yeah lazy doesn’t seem like the right word to use in this situation heh. I really don’t know what I was thinking back then
I’ve played with it a lot in the CTE, but I like it as it is right now. It’s great seeing more players using it. The uniqueness of this SMG is the fact that it plays similarly to an LMG and is deadlier with 1 less BTK. I think the ROF increase makes it extremely erratic and more like a Automatico/Parabellum hybrid. It’s recoil is t exactly easy to control, but it’s a suppression machine. Although I view the Hellriegel as an average SMG, I don’t think it’ll go away since it is still the easiest and most forgiving SMG in the game.
Heinrich-Joseph Speer How is having a gun to counter the hellriegel good? This just means more will use the Smg 0/8 and then it will be another noob gun how is that heaven?
McManus Have they nerfed the accuracy of the other lmgs? I no longer like most of the lmgs because they are so inaccurate. The reason I loved the support class at the beginning was because of their accuracy, I didn't give a shit about the damage, because accuracy is what kills at longer ranges, not damage. So this new update feels like a support nerf rather than a buff. I used to hate the Huot, cuz I felt it was just a worse version of the other lmgs, but now I think it's my new favorite lmg, because of that INSANE accuracy. Same reason why I LOVE the m1917 trench carbine for the assault, and it's my new favorite assault weapon.
Alfamari The huot has always been pretty accurate, it just had a shit ttk. I think they added more visual recoil to other lmgs because I don't remember the M1917 kicking as much as it does now.
Alan Mc Mahon I thought they reduced the recoil on the parabellum with this patch xD. I remember it used to kick outrageously, then after the ttk patch it felt SO much more manageable.
Nice list dude, I've used a few of these since the update, but I think I'll try the others later now you've suggested them, Its been a while since I've used the Selbstlader
I loved the underrated Huot Optical before the patch, it was the most accurate support gun out there, useful at all ranges but still ignored by most players, they should have left its recoil values untouched and only increase the damage to give it a shot against the other LMGs, but if before the patch it was overlooked by most players, now it will be a rarer sight than the Martini Sniper.
Bubba Mike I respectfully disagree, as I can use it on other maps like Amiens, Achi baba, Ballroom blitz and Tsaritsyn. I have even used it on longer range maps, like Soissions, and on some of the new maps coming in Apocalypse
Primalatic It can already take on Assualt players. Just aim for the head and you can get freaking 2-shot kills. It is almost like a full auto shotgun that fires slugs, so you can say that the Chauchat is the "Ww1 AA12", altough the new upcoming RSC SMG coming in Apocalypse might be a better fit for that title.
After the update The m1903 experimental can be a beast now. With a 3 shot close range potential. If you can spam the trigger. And as a scout you got a advantage with the spotting flare.
I’ve always liked the Madsen since it offers average mag size, low-average recoil, decent damage, and decent ROF. I see the main gripe with the gun usually is the large upward magazine. If you can get past that, you’d find that it plays very similarly to the Assault rifles in previous games.
I honestly feel bad for the snipers, usually they piss me off but in BF1 they were balanced and you needed to know what you were doing to do decent. All classes do better except Scouts now. Feel sorry for you folks, now you're just walking flare guns.
Scout has always been above the other classes. Now its more balanced and you can and will still wreck with the scout class. The agressive scouts with Gewehr 95 and Carcano might suffer a bit thought, but you should be able to do good with them still.
I'm level 50 with all classes, and scout using the Arisaka and SMlmkIII carbine till doing well at mid range for me honestly. There's always a range and circumstance for every class and weapon that's key mantra to bf1
I went 56 and 2 on sossions at 150-250 meters with the gewer 98 bruh I had a teammate giving me ammo and the enemy team had garbage snipers, btw the parascope is op for spotting rangefinding and 1 shot headshotting
Sick of people saying the gun is OP. Before, the two shot kill reward distance was not enough to compensate for how hard this gun is to use. I've made this my main gun, even before this patch. With the current patch, DICE has merely given a proper reward for using this rifle. It's the same as before though, if you miss one or two shots while in a gun fight, you're still screwed
Matthew Chang It’s very easy to land 2 shots I just think the reload speed is a bit too fast. Is it not, just an opinion also prior to the ttk thing I’ve already had 14 servicestars with it.
If you get the jump on someone sure, but you could say that about any of the guns really (when it comes to ease of landing shots). I'm more so referring to when the other person is shooting back at you and you have to deal with suppression. Also the reload for the RSC is better when compared to the SLR's that reload via stripper clips/individual rounds. But I think guns like the 1907 SL Sweeper, 1916 Selbstlader, and the Fedorov all reload faster with the detachable magazines. I'm more just glad that the biggest reason to use the RSC (the two shot kill) actually can reach a little farther out now than before. At the previous range (I believe 44 meters) unless you got the jump on someone, it was very easy to be gunned down before you could take that final killing shot.
If I wanted a new map and a new gun, I would say Vimy ridge, so we can pair it with Passchendaele and get an operation and we can finally get the Canadians as a new faction. And for the gun, I would have picked the Becker shotgun.
Madsen MG in its Factory version is a beast now! I feel the storm variant has a ridiculously hard to manage recoil pattern (at least on console), but the factory version is really stable and with the bipod it's become my go to LMG for the class.
I've always loved the Rigotti - the optical variant was outstanding in full-auto mode due to its reduced spread increase, so killing was always very fast out to medium range.
This was very informative. Good to see the smg08 is a little better. I also love the Perino and RSC so it's great to see them getting better. *edit* almost forgot the good old Chauchat lmg; can't wait to get back on bf1 and try it out!
Lol...They have learned nothing of balance and consistently make mistakes... There are guns that are clearly above balance even after CTE it's pathetic out of franchise with this amount of money to there disposal. They keep coming up with guns that just break shit. Oh let's make a genuine assault rifle...oh let's make a the RCR better then every 5 shot medic rifle. Game comes out oh let's make laser beam Lmgs and never fix the Hellreigal just add DLC content to compete. Oh the Martini was such a good idea on release wasn't it guys... But shotguns oh no we can't buff shotguns the FPS community hates those throw them away...let's wait a year. Oh we aren't ever gonna act like there's a problem with Fedorov. I have played to many hours of FPS and gotten to good to not pick up a gun and notice there's a clear balancing issue. It's almost like they learned zero from all there trial and errors from there last 2 titles that came out. Who the fuck are they hiring.
No mention of the experimental sniper... same stats as the trench carbine for assault, but it has an alt fire with heavier rounds. You can also quick switch between modes
I always enjoyed the perino because of the fast reloads, and because the thing is just cool. If you don't know already, the perino is fed by a hopper full of 20 round strips, every 20 rounds fired you can just theow an extra strip in the top.
The selbstlader m1906 and especially the selbstlader m1906 sniper is my favorite medic rifle in the game. I love the factory variant and the telescopic sight gives a better view of enemies 2.5x zoom with either chevron or cross reticle.
Kris, i love your channel and have been subscribed for over a year now, but i really think you should start posting gameplay / rounds of you playing ! would love to see your playstyle
General Liu is really good, it was good before but now its lethal over longer distances as is the 1906. The default guns you start off with are the real sleepers i think, cel rigotti, mp18 and lewis gun are alot more competitive against other guns in their class whereas before you would just get wrecked. One other thing i noticed, the Light Anti tank grenades seem to be alot more powerful now. Cavalry are fast becoming a tankers worse nightmare.
I feel like all the Lmg’s in general felt really weak and underwhelming on launch, really great looking back at this video to remember how good the direction of change was in this game haha
As a support main. Lmgs feel so much better at range. I love it. And shotguns aren't a hit or miss (literally and figuratively) anymore. I was going 40+ with the trench gun. Before,the trench gun was terrible. Now it's godly.
Dunno why but i always wondered what if Dice gave the smg08 a bipod when it was the already accurate gun it was but the bipod is just its massive magazine
According to the patch notes "Autoloading 8.25 damage drop off started at 19.5 but now is 16 meters." This means Autoloading 8 .25 received a nerf as well as a buff. I would rather use M1907 SL, since this gun received only a buff and not a nerf
Shalan Sharma The sentence that I quoted from the patch notes can't be simply disregarded though . The damage fall off now starts 3.5 meters closer. Where did you get the information that this rifle received the best accuracy buff and not the same buff that all the other SLRs received? I am not trying to say that what you are saying is not correct . What I am saying is that different youtubers recommend different guns. Some guns clearly received bigger buffs like RSC and Farquhar Hill, but it states so clearly in the patch notes
Shalan Sharma It all makes sense now. Thank you. Marble Duck is great. Unfortunately, he did not put up a video in 4 months. What kind of buff did Fedorov avtomat receive? I cant check it myself, since I don't have the old numbers from Symphic
Shalan Sharma Thank you for all the very useful info. What makes you pick Farquhar Hill Storm over the optical variant? What do you think of M1907 SL Sweeper and Factory variants?
Shalan Sharma Thanks a lot for a wealth of great info. I need to take a break from FPS games since i had a medical procedure done to my arm yesterday. I play on PS4 Pro with XIM 4. I can play on the controller though and bought Nier Automata , so I can play it with a controller for the next week or two, as well as watch Olympic games
Did they nerf the trench carbine? It seems to take 4 bullets to kill up close. Also on the PS4 it says it does 27 dmg, not 34 like the vid or symthic states.
I've been enjoying the bar telescopic, it's pretty accurate with that bipod and it melts people with a couple well placed shots and I'll take the small mag since the damage makes up for it, I've easily out gunned snipers at medium range 🖒
All of the guns you listed have pretty much always been good even pre TTK patch. Sure the RSC's 2 hit kill range got extended but often I dont find anybody using it at that maximum range like that anyhow. So from my own perspective using it and seeing others using it I havent noticed too much different about it as a whole. Just a bunch of sheep following the herd and using it because some RUclipsr told them it's godly now. But they dont keep at it for long. Lewis Gun as you said, it was a well rounded LMG from the get go, taking fewer bullets is nice but now everything takes fewer bullets to kill it performs pretty much exactly the same. However, the Low Weight and Optical models DO have less recoil now compared to some other LMG's and that makes it worth it. The SMG-08 wasnt that great before mostly due to it's ROF compared to other SMG's. However with the boost in damage, while good it's still not as good up close as pretty much every other SMG. At range, it's pretty useful but the Helreigel Defensive EASILY whoops it as does the Ribeyrolles. The Selbstlader 1906 has always had the advantages you're talking about. The Problem is, the ammo count... it can still pretty much only kill 1 player per clip, possibly 2. The Autoloading 8 and it's variants were more or less the exact same, only the Marksmen model was better than the Sniper model for the 1906. The Liu rifle pretty much beats it in every way too. Perino was always good as well, the damage buff is nice but as I said... everything is buffed so it performs EXACTLY as it did before. No real change. It's not a beast now... its always been good, just now that some stuff is worse it's shining a bit. Trench Carbine was a great gun from the get go as well, the damage buff again is nice but it was always good anyways. It was highly accurate even at range, up close it was super accurate, the damage buff makes it a great gun for close range now despite being semi auto only, it's always been one of my favorite guns since introduced. Cei-Rigotti again was another one of those guns that was always good. Especially when a long time ago they patched Medic rifles giving them less spread and faster resettle times, the Optical model was a great choice considering it's full auto capable and highly accurate, the Factory model is also extremely accurate and I find better for long range shooting in high volumes. The Trench model can easily dispense of anybody up close in full auto and kill multiple players per magazine. The Chauchat once more was always good... extremely accurate hip fire, high damage, high accuracy, etc... None of that has really changed. A little more spread so it just means you dont need to lay on the trigger as long, but it's likely going to drop whoever is in front of you before that becomes an issue. The RIbeyrolles again is another one of those guns that was always good, but once more everything does MORE damage so it performs nearly the same as it always did. Especially when getting down on the bi-pod. The Autoloading 8 was another one of those guns that was like the Selbstlader 1906. It was highly accurate, a strong 3 hit kill, and had low recoil. Nothing has changed, the Autoloading 8 .25 Extended is still just as good as it ever was, nothing terribly new has been done to them at all. Here's a list of guns that actually have been improved massively... 12 Gauge Auto Extended, Madsen LMG(all variants), MP-18, 1903 Experimental, Russian 1895 Trench, Huot, Helreigel Defensive, Sjogren Intertial, and pretty much all Factory/Low Weight/Backbored model weapons as well as Optical Models. Guns like the Lewis Gun Optical and Huot Optical were pretty pointless compared to their Low Weight models originally, but now pretty much every gun that has an Optical model truly sees the increased accuracy of using it without the horrible recoil patterns they previously had. Now some of the guns I mentioned, I dont know if its that they got better.... or if they just were unchanged and thus they are shining examples now or if they were changed it was only their damage. I think all in all this patch made guns that were previously overlooked more competitive and gives players a reason to consider using them. Like the Automatico Factory model... It doesnt suck now. There's actually a point to using it.
disagree with the selbstlader 1906. i used it a TON prepatch, was the best medic rifle imo. Its accuracy, high firerate and guaranteed 3 shot kill made it a very good and versatile gun. You could snipe with it, or produce a DPS close range that with a bit of tactics and strong reactions could take down hellriegel users fairly consistently. Only drawback was the magazine size, but the medics always have the handy auto revolver to back up its lower ammo capacity weapons. Now its nowhere near as good as it used to be, most other guns in the game has had a ttk buff, while this remains the same. It was fairly evident from the start that the selbstlader 1906 would be hit hard with this patch, as all the improvements to SLRs where on aspects that the selbstlader 1906 already exceled at, accuracy, managable recoil and thereby high fire rate. The selbstlader got pretty stumped by ttk2.0, and should be removed from this list, and rather included in a list of awesome guns, that used to be good prior to ttk2.0 and now isnt.
Hmm, I don't know really, that lower spread increase/Base spread means you can fire faster with it and stay accurate at longer ranges, I've had some great matches with it since the update
that wasnt really a big issue with the gun previous either.Remember before the patch i always fucked up with the other SLRs, firing way too fast, because i was so used to the selbstlader 1906. It is slightly better, but relative to everything else in the game, the buffs are pretty unnoticable. The patch to SLRs could pretty much be summed up by making every SLR more like the selbstlader 1906 in addition to some dmg buffs at range. it had very litle increase base spread, and it had next to no wait time in between shots before it regained its accuracy, and was super accurate overall. The selbstlader got a relative nerf with this patch, considering how minor the changes to it was, and how impactfull the changes to some of the other where. The RSC is just waay better after the patch.
I think the Maschinepistole got an over-nerf in this latest patch, and at least two other youtubers have confirmed this (TheBrokenMachine being one of them). Could you discuss this weapon soon? Since its so uncontrollable the Automatico is just straight up better now.
Yep, review coming soon, I can confirm that it's definitely gotten worse since the patch, but it can still kill really quickly up close, just a bit trickier to use now
Damn on assault I'm rocking the ribeyrolles hielriegell(however you spell it) and the sjorgen inertial and it slays medic the rsc cie regotti and fedorov on support the bar storm chachuat and lmg 08/18 then on scout the smle mk3 marksman Gewher m.95 infrantry and Gewher 98 sniper I use the mk6 revolver on all my loadout and couldent be happier with them
I already loved the smg 08 and perino, will see how that 's going to play out now. I didn't like the chauchat and huot (still unlocked the optical at a high cost though) before but now the chauchat is likely to become one of my favorites. The huot i haven't played with yet after the patch but i'll try it again i quess.
The new upgrade is so good even turning Tides weapon like the British 303 inch farquhar-hill is deadily from 0-40 meters if pushed to the Limit 41-70 meters amd since 8mm lebel RSC-1917 is stronger from 0-70 meters which would mean a 7.92mm x 57 selbstlader M1906 & M1916 is only effective from 0-50 meters.
I feel like the Sebst 1906 is still pretty useless as a Medic weapon as you're not really playing the class hanging back in med-far ranges. The RSC is a real beast and possibly my new fav medic weapon over the 1916 optical
I wonder what happened to the doom gameplay?servers are still up and running amazing the only time I got bad servers was like half way through the day but it ended a bit later when servers fired back up.peace
What?! No M1903 Experimental?? The only Scout rifle that got any kind of significant buff, is also the only gun no one seems to care about. Sweet. It'll be my little secret.
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The SMG 08/18 has been drastically changed since this video, though I'd still suggest trying it out now... It's a bit of a beast
What are your sensitivity settings because this gameplay looks really slick especially considering its ps4 gameplay
I made a video about settings on my channel, I'd suggest checking it out, though I've recently bumped the sensitivity up to about 110-120% (since that video)
I find the new SMG 08/18 useless now. _Way_ too fast now. I loved the way it sounded as a slower fire rate. It was also more manageable in close to medium ranges.
What about the kolibri?
I never even got to experience the slow 08. It would actually give the Optical variant a use
3:54 that limped charge triple kill tho. :D
I loved the Chauchat before, can't wait to try it out now!
Lmao, when you lobbed that limpet charge and got that triple kill as you ran out of ammo for the Lewis gun, that was brilliant
The m1917 trench carbine for the assault, is my new favorite assault weapon. The assault class' biggest weakness was its range, but now with the m1917, it fills that gap. I just absolutely love its accuracy, range, and versatility. I don't really care about it's CQC killing potential, since CQC is not too common on large Battlefield Maps, but this weapon does fine in CQC. A lot of people talk about the ribeyrolles, but you have to be bipodded to use it at range, which is hard to do and is a death sentence, whereas the m1917 can be used while standing and on the move. I also feel like the lmgs got their accuracy nerfed which was the only reason I played support to begin with, so this completely shut me down to the support class after the Patch and I hate the changes. That was until I picked up the Huot, it's my new favorite lmg and I feel useful again.
Alfamari Alfamari so you probably hate the parabellum lol...anyways you should stop being lazy and give yourself a challenge and learn the recoil for the support guns cuz it’s very rewarding to kill👍🏼
Endrit No, the parabellum was my go to cqc lmg before the lmg 08. Its not the recoil thats a problem, its the spread, if a gun has bad recoil and good spread, thats fine because you can actually manage that. The problem is its the spread that you can't do shit about. You're aiming on target but isn't it a fun mechanic to make it so you aren't rewarded for good aim, and its all up to chance instead of skill? And before you say tap/burst fire, no, that doesn't work either. Anything beyond the first shot is a miss, so you are stuck with a semi auto lmg, shooting one bullet at a time so you can actually hit whats in front of you. Why the fuck would you pick the support class to use a semi auto weapon thats far less effective than a medic rifle? Its not lazy, its not a challenge, its not recoil, its that spread is a bullshit game mechanic, that makes guns completely useless, takes out all the skill in a game, and substitutes it for chance. Besides, why is it rewarding to get a kill with an lmg in the first place? Snipers are the only class that it should feel "rewarding" to get a kill with.
Joshua Beauchamp danm that’s an old ass comment, but yeah lazy doesn’t seem like the right word to use in this situation heh. I really don’t know what I was thinking back then
The Cei Rigotti is a true beast now.
even before, i always prefered the CEi Rigotti over most other medic guns. now it just ridiculous.
Stone Bryant Mine is the Hill
In theory, but not in practice
Do you use the trench variant? And do u put the bayonet?
I'm usually using the Factory variant without a bayonett.
The SMG 08 is going to be ridiculous when Apocalypse hits.
Aazelion i tried it in the cte and it is ridiculous. i fucking love it now.
There will be no more Hellriegel users. This will be heaven on earth.
I’ve played with it a lot in the CTE, but I like it as it is right now. It’s great seeing more players using it. The uniqueness of this SMG is the fact that it plays similarly to an LMG and is deadlier with 1 less BTK. I think the ROF increase makes it extremely erratic and more like a Automatico/Parabellum hybrid. It’s recoil is t exactly easy to control, but it’s a suppression machine. Although I view the Hellriegel as an average SMG, I don’t think it’ll go away since it is still the easiest and most forgiving SMG in the game.
Heinrich-Joseph Speer
How is having a gun to counter the hellriegel good? This just means more will use the Smg 0/8 and then it will be another noob gun how is that heaven?
Aazelion lololo
surprisingly,the m1903 experimental is now useful
panzerkampfwagen VI ausfurung Tiger II it's literally the Trench carbine in disguise
On average I can get a triple per mag with the 1903 now
Yeah I got killed by it the other day and was like wtf? Haha
tried it as a joke last time and went 37-6 on amiens frontlines. Its a pre-patch medic rifle
Only if you like the spam-click way of shooting it.
Limpet charges are the most satisfying, funny kills in the game to me
JR216 i always like to get killed by some camping guy in a building and than to throw a limpet charge or dynamit on it
Yeah dynamite is awesome, too
JR216 i always have dynamite cause i hate people with the Anti Infantry rocket gun
I love running straight at tanks with it like Japanese suicide troops
3:54
The Huot is pretty great now
McManus Have they nerfed the accuracy of the other lmgs? I no longer like most of the lmgs because they are so inaccurate. The reason I loved the support class at the beginning was because of their accuracy, I didn't give a shit about the damage, because accuracy is what kills at longer ranges, not damage. So this new update feels like a support nerf rather than a buff. I used to hate the Huot, cuz I felt it was just a worse version of the other lmgs, but now I think it's my new favorite lmg, because of that INSANE accuracy. Same reason why I LOVE the m1917 trench carbine for the assault, and it's my new favorite assault weapon.
Alfamari yea I think the didn't changed the accuracy of the Huot, it kills so fast and I can't see any shots flying somewhere else
Alfamari The huot has always been pretty accurate, it just had a shit ttk. I think they added more visual recoil to other lmgs because I don't remember the M1917 kicking as much as it does now.
I loved the parabellum pre patch but it kicks so much now it is less effective the suppressive is still good prone. The Lewis and huot are kings
Alan Mc Mahon I thought they reduced the recoil on the parabellum with this patch xD. I remember it used to kick outrageously, then after the ttk patch it felt SO much more manageable.
M1907 Sl got a really nice range buff too
Nice list dude, I've used a few of these since the update, but I think I'll try the others later now you've suggested them, Its been a while since I've used the Selbstlader
You should take a look at the Huot. It’s a laser beam of death now.
Great video!
Adam Carter its always been a laserbeam, just more lethal now with the damage buff
I loved the underrated Huot Optical before the patch, it was the most accurate support gun out there, useful at all ranges but still ignored by most players, they should have left its recoil values untouched and only increase the damage to give it a shot against the other LMGs, but if before the patch it was overlooked by most players, now it will be a rarer sight than the Martini Sniper.
RIP Machine Pistol, I loved ya but hardly knew ya
LGPanthers1 I would say that it is still a very good smg for "IN YOUR FACE" playstyles
Malte Molin now you can only use it on Argonne and Fort Vaux
Bubba Mike I respectfully disagree, as I can use it on other maps like Amiens, Achi baba, Ballroom blitz and Tsaritsyn. I have even used it on longer range maps, like Soissions, and on some of the new maps coming in Apocalypse
Malte Molin alright, I'll give it another go
Try it in combination with the obrez. I've done it a few times and it worked great for me.
The Chauchat is amazingly good now
Metalcore98 it was before the patch
Primalatic It can already take on Assualt players. Just aim for the head and you can get freaking 2-shot kills. It is almost like a full auto shotgun that fires slugs, so you can say that the Chauchat is the "Ww1 AA12", altough the new upcoming RSC SMG coming in Apocalypse might be a better fit for that title.
Love the chauchat. And for the scout im more of a martini henry infantry type guy. Top of the leaderboard 24/7 with that rifle.
I thought the Ribeyrolles was the best gun before the patch
And it still is
Yeah they are nurfing it , next patch .
feels worse now with more recoil...medic wins most the time against it even at closer engagements
Will Harvey g
Hairy Motter just tap fire or set it in semi-automatic mode and it's still a beast
Hairy Motter didn’t know they nerfed it; explains why it feels so different now.
Im so happy right now...i love the 1917 trench carbine even more than before
Victor Gomez u on PS4 ?
Victor Gomez this is one of my favorite guns
That's my favorite assault weapon now. I have no recoil control so this is the best gun for me lol
After the update The m1903 experimental can be a beast now. With a 3 shot close range potential. If you can spam the trigger. And as a scout you got a advantage with the spotting flare.
Some of these guns are truly Godly now
What about the Madsen MG? I never liked from the start but with the update I tried and I liked more
Yeah the Madsens also pretty good now too, the trench variant is also very useful being able to bypass that slower ads time
KriticalKris and dont forget that gigantic mag that cover half of your screen 😉😂
Federico Ascencio better than the automatics at least
Madden trench + gas + crate = profit
I’ve always liked the Madsen since it offers average mag size, low-average recoil, decent damage, and decent ROF. I see the main gripe with the gun usually is the large upward magazine. If you can get past that, you’d find that it plays very similarly to the Assault rifles in previous games.
Would you be able to do a 10 hugely worsened weapons list too, or no? Cause I'd love to know if I'm using guns I shouldn't be using anymore...
Cesar The Salad Basically just add all the scout weapons to a list and hey presto! And the maschinenpistole too, that gun got nerfed into the ground
Federov avtomat is pretty pointless
Mp 18 makes it pointless
I honestly feel bad for the snipers, usually they piss me off but in BF1 they were balanced and you needed to know what you were doing to do decent. All classes do better except Scouts now. Feel sorry for you folks, now you're just walking flare guns.
Zachary Ammons mabey they will ptfo now.
Zachary Ammons they deserve it. There's way to many of them
Scout has always been above the other classes. Now its more balanced and you can and will still wreck with the scout class. The agressive scouts with Gewehr 95 and Carcano might suffer a bit thought, but you should be able to do good with them still.
I'm level 50 with all classes, and scout using the Arisaka and SMlmkIII carbine till doing well at mid range for me honestly. There's always a range and circumstance for every class and weapon that's key mantra to bf1
I went 56 and 2 on sossions at 150-250 meters with the gewer 98 bruh I had a teammate giving me ammo and the enemy team had garbage snipers, btw the parascope is op for spotting rangefinding and 1 shot headshotting
RSC is amazing now. I hope it wont be nerfed
Hasanjaroudi it could have some fixes
Sick of people saying the gun is OP. Before, the two shot kill reward distance was not enough to compensate for how hard this gun is to use. I've made this my main gun, even before this patch. With the current patch, DICE has merely given a proper reward for using this rifle. It's the same as before though, if you miss one or two shots while in a gun fight, you're still screwed
Matthew Chang i agree with u. The RSC is a skill canon miss 1 shot and the ttk goes way up. I think it is balanced
Matthew Chang
It’s very easy to land 2 shots I just think the reload speed is a bit too fast. Is it not, just an opinion also prior to the ttk thing I’ve already had 14 servicestars with it.
If you get the jump on someone sure, but you could say that about any of the guns really (when it comes to ease of landing shots). I'm more so referring to when the other person is shooting back at you and you have to deal with suppression. Also the reload for the RSC is better when compared to the SLR's that reload via stripper clips/individual rounds. But I think guns like the 1907 SL Sweeper, 1916 Selbstlader, and the Fedorov all reload faster with the detachable magazines. I'm more just glad that the biggest reason to use the RSC (the two shot kill) actually can reach a little farther out now than before. At the previous range (I believe 44 meters) unless you got the jump on someone, it was very easy to be gunned down before you could take that final killing shot.
Such an underated youtuber
What about the M1903 Experimental? It's pretty good now!
Mimi Kal What'd they do to it?
Mimi Kal Wait, nvm. Thought you meant the sniper variant.
Who else wished there was just ONE more infantry map and ONE more gun for Apocalypse?
I think they will add it after the Apocalypse as free DLC for hype.
If I wanted a new map and a new gun, I would say Vimy ridge, so we can pair it with Passchendaele and get an operation and we can finally get the Canadians as a new faction. And for the gun, I would have picked the Becker shotgun.
Dude Lmao me
Dude Lmao in the apocalypse files are some new weapons. One of them is the Thompson and another shotgun.
Mark de Smit What!? Is that really true?
These weapons were pretty good before the ttk I now see the big diffrence great vid man👍
I have 13 stars with the Selbstlader 1906 Sniper and this patch made it god like with accuracy and recoil now.
Madsen MG in its Factory version is a beast now! I feel the storm variant has a ridiculously hard to manage recoil pattern (at least on console), but the factory version is really stable and with the bipod it's become my go to LMG for the class.
RSC all day. Love that gun.
I got one service star with the SMG 08/18 before the ttk patch and never used it again. Looks like it’s worth using now
Finally, a bf youtuber that plays operations and not conquest every video. He has variety.
got over 150 kills with the Lewis Gun within a day after the update, nice video!
I've always loved the Rigotti - the optical variant was outstanding in full-auto mode due to its reduced spread increase, so killing was always very fast out to medium range.
I’m surprised Benet-Mercie isn’t listed
me too
Same
This was very informative. Good to see the smg08 is a little better. I also love the Perino and RSC so it's great to see them getting better. *edit* almost forgot the good old Chauchat lmg; can't wait to get back on bf1 and try it out!
Thanks for your weapon review videos bro.....good stuff
Great list Kris! Love the new faster kill times
Whats up with that instant limpet refill at 0:05
Thank you for the vid man :)
You're welcome dude
since recently fixing my BF1 I've noticed that everything changed the SMG 08/18 is the first weapon I noticed it changed mainly it's rate of fire
I haven't watched any videos relating to BF1
The new update is great!
Bunker Bill not really, all i get killed with is hellriegal
Yes it is
Lol...They have learned nothing of balance and consistently make mistakes... There are guns that are clearly above balance even after CTE it's pathetic out of franchise with this amount of money to there disposal. They keep coming up with guns that just break shit. Oh let's make a genuine assault rifle...oh let's make a the RCR better then every 5 shot medic rifle. Game comes out oh let's make laser beam Lmgs and never fix the Hellreigal just add DLC content to compete. Oh the Martini was such a good idea on release wasn't it guys... But shotguns oh no we can't buff shotguns the FPS community hates those throw them away...let's wait a year. Oh we aren't ever gonna act like there's a problem with Fedorov. I have played to many hours of FPS and gotten to good to not pick up a gun and notice there's a clear balancing issue. It's almost like they learned zero from all there trial and errors from there last 2 titles that came out. Who the fuck are they hiring.
Aaron Martin they didn't buff it
I went from despusing Cahushats existance to only using Chauchat when I play Support.
Subscribed! love the reviews of the weapons !
Great vid m8!
No mention of the experimental sniper... same stats as the trench carbine for assault, but it has an alt fire with heavier rounds. You can also quick switch between modes
I always enjoyed the perino because of the fast reloads, and because the thing is just cool.
If you don't know already, the perino is fed by a hopper full of 20 round strips, every 20 rounds fired you can just theow an extra strip in the top.
4:54? Please tell me that’s before the update
Why don't you set your ads zoom to 2x?
The selbstlader m1906 and especially the selbstlader m1906 sniper is my favorite medic rifle in the game. I love the factory variant and the telescopic sight gives a better view of enemies
2.5x zoom with either chevron or cross reticle.
Kris, i love your channel and have been subscribed for over a year now, but i really think you should start posting gameplay / rounds of you playing ! would love to see your playstyle
General Liu is really good, it was good before but now its lethal over longer distances as is the 1906. The default guns you start off with are the real sleepers i think, cel rigotti, mp18 and lewis gun are alot more competitive against other guns in their class whereas before you would just get wrecked. One other thing i noticed, the Light Anti tank grenades seem to be alot more powerful now. Cavalry are fast becoming a tankers worse nightmare.
Agreed
love the details kris .. thanks
I feel like all the Lmg’s in general felt really weak and underwhelming on launch, really great looking back at this video to remember how good the direction of change was in this game haha
As a support main. Lmgs feel so much better at range. I love it. And shotguns aren't a hit or miss (literally and figuratively) anymore. I was going 40+ with the trench gun. Before,the trench gun was terrible. Now it's godly.
I just started using the Chauchat more, and I'm an absolute beast with it now, definitely an improvement
Still making quality content Kris
What about the Huot?
Great video man! subbed.
Anyone tried MP18 Experimental? I had a good time with it, a better time than with the MP18 Optical
Yeah I have used it a bit before the patch and tried it after. I really like that weapon. My favorite Mp18
Tried the autoloading extended today.. It tears through enemies
The fact some video games have a Springfield 1903 but 1 has a scope, you have 1 without
Gamer: doesn't take same ammo
Dunno why but i always wondered what if Dice gave the smg08 a bipod when it was the already accurate gun it was but the bipod is just its massive magazine
According to the patch notes "Autoloading 8.25 damage drop off started at 19.5 but now is 16 meters." This means Autoloading 8 .25 received a nerf as well as a buff. I would rather use M1907 SL, since this gun received only a buff and not a nerf
Shalan Sharma The sentence that I quoted from the patch notes can't be simply disregarded though . The damage fall off now starts 3.5 meters closer. Where did you get the information that this rifle received the best accuracy buff and not the same buff that all the other SLRs received? I am not trying to say that what you are saying is not correct . What I am saying is that different youtubers recommend different guns. Some guns clearly received bigger buffs like RSC and Farquhar Hill, but it states so clearly in the patch notes
Shalan Sharma It all makes sense now. Thank you. Marble Duck is great. Unfortunately, he did not put up a video in 4 months. What kind of buff did Fedorov avtomat receive? I cant check it myself, since I don't have the old numbers from Symphic
Shalan Sharma Thank you for all the very useful info. What makes you pick Farquhar Hill Storm over the optical variant? What do you think of M1907 SL Sweeper and Factory variants?
Shalan Sharma Thanks a lot for a wealth of great info. I need to take a break from FPS games since i had a medical procedure done to my arm yesterday. I play on PS4 Pro with XIM 4. I can play on the controller though and bought Nier Automata , so I can play it with a controller for the next week or two, as well as watch Olympic games
Did they nerf the trench carbine? It seems to take 4 bullets to kill up close. Also on the PS4 it says it does 27 dmg, not 34 like the vid or symthic states.
I've been enjoying the bar telescopic, it's pretty accurate with that bipod and it melts people with a couple well placed shots and I'll take the small mag since the damage makes up for it, I've easily out gunned snipers at medium range 🖒
Finally! The Lewis gun is now more like the hardline Syndicate gun.
Ignoring the extended version, why would you ever use the autoloading 8 over the selbstlader 1906?
Better ttk, one of the best in the game
Why is it that when these guys play nobody shoots at them but when I load up a game all 32 enemies are firing into my anus
The M1907 Sweeper...
All of the guns you listed have pretty much always been good even pre TTK patch.
Sure the RSC's 2 hit kill range got extended but often I dont find anybody using it at that maximum range like that anyhow. So from my own perspective using it and seeing others using it I havent noticed too much different about it as a whole. Just a bunch of sheep following the herd and using it because some RUclipsr told them it's godly now. But they dont keep at it for long.
Lewis Gun as you said, it was a well rounded LMG from the get go, taking fewer bullets is nice but now everything takes fewer bullets to kill it performs pretty much exactly the same. However, the Low Weight and Optical models DO have less recoil now compared to some other LMG's and that makes it worth it.
The SMG-08 wasnt that great before mostly due to it's ROF compared to other SMG's. However with the boost in damage, while good it's still not as good up close as pretty much every other SMG. At range, it's pretty useful but the Helreigel Defensive EASILY whoops it as does the Ribeyrolles.
The Selbstlader 1906 has always had the advantages you're talking about. The Problem is, the ammo count... it can still pretty much only kill 1 player per clip, possibly 2. The Autoloading 8 and it's variants were more or less the exact same, only the Marksmen model was better than the Sniper model for the 1906. The Liu rifle pretty much beats it in every way too.
Perino was always good as well, the damage buff is nice but as I said... everything is buffed so it performs EXACTLY as it did before. No real change. It's not a beast now... its always been good, just now that some stuff is worse it's shining a bit.
Trench Carbine was a great gun from the get go as well, the damage buff again is nice but it was always good anyways. It was highly accurate even at range, up close it was super accurate, the damage buff makes it a great gun for close range now despite being semi auto only, it's always been one of my favorite guns since introduced.
Cei-Rigotti again was another one of those guns that was always good. Especially when a long time ago they patched Medic rifles giving them less spread and faster resettle times, the Optical model was a great choice considering it's full auto capable and highly accurate, the Factory model is also extremely accurate and I find better for long range shooting in high volumes. The Trench model can easily dispense of anybody up close in full auto and kill multiple players per magazine.
The Chauchat once more was always good... extremely accurate hip fire, high damage, high accuracy, etc... None of that has really changed. A little more spread so it just means you dont need to lay on the trigger as long, but it's likely going to drop whoever is in front of you before that becomes an issue.
The RIbeyrolles again is another one of those guns that was always good, but once more everything does MORE damage so it performs nearly the same as it always did. Especially when getting down on the bi-pod.
The Autoloading 8 was another one of those guns that was like the Selbstlader 1906. It was highly accurate, a strong 3 hit kill, and had low recoil. Nothing has changed, the Autoloading 8 .25 Extended is still just as good as it ever was, nothing terribly new has been done to them at all.
Here's a list of guns that actually have been improved massively... 12 Gauge Auto Extended, Madsen LMG(all variants), MP-18, 1903 Experimental, Russian 1895 Trench, Huot, Helreigel Defensive, Sjogren Intertial, and pretty much all Factory/Low Weight/Backbored model weapons as well as Optical Models.
Guns like the Lewis Gun Optical and Huot Optical were pretty pointless compared to their Low Weight models originally, but now pretty much every gun that has an Optical model truly sees the increased accuracy of using it without the horrible recoil patterns they previously had. Now some of the guns I mentioned, I dont know if its that they got better.... or if they just were unchanged and thus they are shining examples now or if they were changed it was only their damage. I think all in all this patch made guns that were previously overlooked more competitive and gives players a reason to consider using them. Like the Automatico Factory model... It doesnt suck now. There's actually a point to using it.
I love how the subtitles called the Selbstlader "Self-Slaughter" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Loved the Chauchat before the patch, love it even more after the patch.
Loved the autoloading 35 variants before the patch now that they are even more brutal I'm in battlefield heaven.
disagree with the selbstlader 1906. i used it a TON prepatch, was the best medic rifle imo. Its accuracy, high firerate and guaranteed 3 shot kill made it a very good and versatile gun. You could snipe with it, or produce a DPS close range that with a bit of tactics and strong reactions could take down hellriegel users fairly consistently. Only drawback was the magazine size, but the medics always have the handy auto revolver to back up its lower ammo capacity weapons. Now its nowhere near as good as it used to be, most other guns in the game has had a ttk buff, while this remains the same. It was fairly evident from the start that the selbstlader 1906 would be hit hard with this patch, as all the improvements to SLRs where on aspects that the selbstlader 1906 already exceled at, accuracy, managable recoil and thereby high fire rate. The selbstlader got pretty stumped by ttk2.0, and should be removed from this list, and rather included in a list of awesome guns, that used to be good prior to ttk2.0 and now isnt.
Hmm, I don't know really, that lower spread increase/Base spread means you can fire faster with it and stay accurate at longer ranges, I've had some great matches with it since the update
that wasnt really a big issue with the gun previous either.Remember before the patch i always fucked up with the other SLRs, firing way too fast, because i was so used to the selbstlader 1906. It is slightly better, but relative to everything else in the game, the buffs are pretty unnoticable. The patch to SLRs could pretty much be summed up by making every SLR more like the selbstlader 1906 in addition to some dmg buffs at range. it had very litle increase base spread, and it had next to no wait time in between shots before it regained its accuracy, and was super accurate overall. The selbstlader got a relative nerf with this patch, considering how minor the changes to it was, and how impactfull the changes to some of the other where. The RSC is just waay better after the patch.
PP22 It was SHIT when your hit detection wasn't decent, i.e., 90% of the time
I think the Maschinepistole got an over-nerf in this latest patch, and at least two other youtubers have confirmed this (TheBrokenMachine being one of them). Could you discuss this weapon soon? Since its so uncontrollable the Automatico is just straight up better now.
Yep, review coming soon, I can confirm that it's definitely gotten worse since the patch, but it can still kill really quickly up close, just a bit trickier to use now
When DICE implemented a TTK change that made the game better
The MP18 is a beast now. Every game I’ve played with it I’ve been dropping 50 bombs.
What about the mg14/17 parabellum?
Damn on assault I'm rocking the ribeyrolles hielriegell(however you spell it) and the sjorgen inertial and it slays medic the rsc cie regotti and fedorov on support the bar storm chachuat and lmg 08/18 then on scout the smle mk3 marksman Gewher m.95 infrantry and Gewher 98 sniper I use the mk6 revolver on all my loadout and couldent be happier with them
bro what about the martini henry infantry/sniper they are beasts
I already loved the smg 08 and perino, will see how that 's going to play out now. I didn't like the chauchat and huot (still unlocked the optical at a high cost though) before but now the chauchat is likely to become one of my favorites. The huot i haven't played with yet after the patch but i'll try it again i quess.
Rewatching all of these bf1 vids after battlefield 2042
What is better?:
Lewis Gun or Perino Model 1908?
What are you're sensitivity settings?
The Browning 1917 is an ABSOLUTE BEAST!!!
I already thought it was great before, but now it’s just a Meat Grinder
What about G. Liu....? I was hoping that this gun will get some buff...
Just wait for the SMG 08/18 to get the CTE update, it is now better than the automatico. An absolute beast
The new upgrade is so good even turning Tides weapon like the British 303 inch farquhar-hill is deadily from 0-40 meters if pushed to the Limit 41-70 meters amd since 8mm lebel RSC-1917 is stronger from 0-70 meters which would mean a 7.92mm x 57 selbstlader M1906 & M1916 is only effective from 0-50 meters.
I feel like the Sebst 1906 is still pretty useless as a Medic weapon as you're not really playing the class hanging back in med-far ranges.
The RSC is a real beast and possibly my new fav medic weapon over the 1916 optical
I wonder what happened to the doom gameplay?servers are still up and running amazing the only time I got bad servers was like half way through the day but it ended a bit later when servers fired back up.peace
The Madsen kicks ass now
The SMG 08 is getting a fire rate increase to 770 rpm(I think it's around there)
What?! No M1903 Experimental?? The only Scout rifle that got any kind of significant buff, is also the only gun no one seems to care about. Sweet. It'll be my little secret.
Mp18 is the best close-medium SMG now imo.
Great info.
Can you make a video on how to improve aim I'm on console Xbox one level 95 yet my accuracy is shite
Why don't I see the madsen storm on this list?
The guns will change after the update of February??