I finally got my 2023 Forte GT steel gray (stick shift) and I like it a lot. After 16 years without driving a manual transmission car, I feel the Forte brought me back the fun!
Huge congrats to you Carlos. I am totally loving mine too. Could not be more happy with it. They are a lot of fun. Keep in touch. Would love to hear how you feel down the road. I have had mine for 9 weeks and love it as much today as I did the day I got it.
I live in NJ, and recently took my 2022 Forte GT on a 75-mile trip to another part of New Jersey. This was my first long ride than the local trips I usually do. I got 42 miles to the gallon. Not bad, right. Oh, it was 99% highway.
I haven’t been able to muster more than 32 on a long drive so far. Hoping it will get better when broken in. The time we got 32 was on on long 350 mile drive on highway only at the speed limit. So it was about 75 mph.
Thats incredible gas mileage! Guess it makes sense if you consider it's a small 1.6l 4cyl on the Aktinson cycle when off boost..and thats straight highway driving. But lol at 75 miles being a "long ride", down here in Texas thats a daily commute for a lot of people who live in far flung burbs yet work in one of the cities😁
@@jbm0866 I do wander though tif that is based on the computer in the car. As much as I love the car I have to say this is one of the most inaccurate cars I have ever seen in calculating MPG. Mine reads 3-4 mpg high every tank.
I have had a lot of very cool cars. You would think that would make my expectation where I would be very hard to please. But, I have to tell you this car is beyond my expectations in every way (other than fuel economy). I could not be more thrilled. Thanks for the input James. Hope you will subscribe and give more of your input on other videos. Great stuff my friend,.
I don't think that will change. I still love mine 6000 miles in now. Love it more every day. I have had a lot of very nice cars so I expected my standards to be beyond what this car could offer and I have been extremely surprised. I am more and more surprised and pleased every day. More videos coming on this car. Please subscribe and stay tuned.
I am still quite surprised by it. I put 700 miles on it in the 1st week. It is surprisingly nimble. It corners very well. It's peppy. No race car for sure. But, when compared with similarly priced cars it's gonna leave them behind. The seats are super comfortable. We are going to road trip in it in 2 weeks. Looking forward the the fuel economy on the road and how good the seats feel on a long drive. The bolstering in the seats is quite impressive. They really keep you where you are supposed to be. Overall for a $25k car I give it a solid 9. Not sure what it could do to make it a 10 short of 50 more horsepower or a little better fuel economy. So far really liking it for a daily driver. After driving the 2022 Corolla for the past 5 months I would take this 100 times out of 100 over the Corolla. The only thing the Corolla does better is slightly better fuel economy. Way more equipment than the Corolla, a better warranty and now less expensive. Don't get me wrong the Corolla is great for what it is. The little GT is just better in virtually every aspect.
WOW! Those Type R’s are awesome. I am loving this car. I just posted a video last week with my long term review. I have had it since August and rolled over 13,000 miles this morning.
I will tell you, it all depends on driving in regards to the manual. In my 22 forte got manual, I’ve gotten as high as 45 miles to the gallon. If you treat the car well it delivers very good fuel Economy .
I hope the auto turns around. So far my numbers are lower than advertised. I just took a trip where we were on the speed limit the entire 350 miles and it could only muster 32 mpg. City so are is averaging just under 27. I am also hoping that it gets better once it gets broken in. Crossing my fingers.
This car needs a bit more refinement but for what it is the cost and warranty it is the best equipped and best value car period. By refinement 1. Infotainment needs to be nicer looking 2. Gauges need to just have a screen between the tach and speedo that covers the whole negative space 3. The tail lights need to have that center section eliminated 4. Turn signals and reverse lights need to be moved into the tail lights where they belong 5. Maybe better ambient lighting 5. This car needs a performance model gt3 package that has all the elantra n performance 280hp with the stuff from gt2. Needs to stay under 30k 6. Maybe an awd version with 300hp/300tq the k5 gt stuff would be a good fit. Keep the weight down and have it be 32k gt4 package But the fully loaded setup is 27k you can't beat it for what it comes with
Love all the thought you put into this. I like all your thoughts. The think I agree most with is your point #4. They are down there where they are hard to see and honestly when they are lit up look pretty goofy. I really appreciate the input.
It is but it would be better if they did better with ambient lighting changed interior buttons to white and moved the turn signals and reverse lights into the tail lights where they belong also removing that useless center section.
I could not agree more with any of the things that you mentioned. Especially putting those turn signals so low in the bumper. I’ve had people tell me that they didn’t even see when I had turn signals on because they’re so low.
@@DadsGarageDIY it’s when someone is driving on an open freeway. Then a car follows me, I accelerate. They accelerate, I slow down. They slow down. Why would they keep doing that if I want to be alone on the open road for safety? I’ve had to decrease my speed by 20 mph or increase by 20, to get them away. If that’s caused by a cars feature, I’m speechless. Maybe you can explain this pacing feature you described in the cruise control?
@@joeymasterson4395 I understand what you are saying now. The majority of the cars in the past few years come with this feature. The idea is not to annoy or stalk people but for safety. It's intended to keep a minimal distance so you can safely stop (provided you're paying attention) or brake if the traffic suddenly stops. I think it's a tremendous safety feature. Hope that helps. If not, hit me back and we can continue the conversation.
I’ve watched all your Kia videos and have enjoyed them but what I want to know is how do you feel about the long term usage with Kia‘s and what would you say about people who have had bad experiences
Hi Jesse. Great questions and I really appreciate you watching. As far as long term I really don’t know. Although I buy a lot of cars this is my 1st Kia. I’m racking up the miles so I’m getting closer to that answer. In the 7 months I have had it I’ve run over 14k miles. I have had hundreds of comments on the videos in which I read and reply to every one. I have one had one negative all the others have been overwhelmingly positive. When I watch other videos I haven’t seen much in the way of negative either. The only things I have seen is when people over modify them and then suffer a catastrophic failure. I can’t blame that on Kia quality. Just like the Scat Packs I used to have. Absolutely bulletproof 392 engines. But, you go through boost at it like you would a Coyote and your going to blow it up. I wouldn’t then call the 392 junk. I call that a moron doing the mod. Anyway, time will tell. I will report any significant issues to you all. Thanks Jesse. Keep the great questions coming!
I have enjoyed it too. I am liking it better every day. It really drives great, is comfortable and is not great but pretty good at everything. For the money it is spot on.
@@DadsGarageDIY I really like this car and I would say that the white and red color are the best looking ones. They are trying to get me to pay 29 k for a red one in Texas.
@@ethanmelton2914 I really like the white. It looks really clean. I could have had a red one sooner. I am in the DFW area. I had to wait for a white one. I paid right at MSRP. Are you in the DFW area? If so, I can give you 2 dealerships you can call that will not charger you over MSPR. In the description I put the name and # of my salesman. Call him and tell him you saw my video. He will take care of you really well. I don't get anything for saying that. I just know he took care of me really good. Let me know how it goes and please subscribe. I really would appreciate that Ethan.
@@DadsGarageDIY ok I will have to check that out out I live in Houston so they got me at $30,500 after tax title license window tint out the door. They said this is msrp after all the markups am I missing something.
@@ethanmelton2914 MSRP is $24,300. Destination is about $1,000. Tax in Texas is 6.25%. That’s $1,581 if you have no trade. So, now your still under $27k. Title and license is only a few hundred. So, unless they are charging you a LOT for tint there is something else there. Could it be a GT2? That adds $1900. A manual transmission adds $700. So, if you have all that you are getting pretty close.
Hey Chad. Is that 30.1 what the computer is calculating or you calculating it? Mine is averaging just under 28. But the computer is calculating it as over 30. The computer is so inaccurate in this car. With the auto I am turning about 3100 rpm at 80. It does seem high to me too.
Im currently in the market for a Forte GT or GT line (depends if i can even get one) but my concern is I heard the 1.6 L Turbo lasts about 250,000km before dying. (Sorry I'm from Canada)
Yeah, I have heard a lot of people say these are good for about 100k miles. I already traded it. I was having some issues already. Some of which Kia has no fixes for. My wife said time to dump it. I don't need any excuse to buy a new car. So, it was gone within days of her saying that.
@@DadsGarageDIY Oh no!!! I hope you got a better car. Now you're making me reconsider my decision. May I ask what we're some of the problems/issues you were dealing with? This will be a deal breaker for me as all I heard was good things but in truth, I would like yo hear reality things. Thanks in advance
@@lastoneleft5945 I had heard all good going in too. And for most of my ownership I heard positive. But, as time went along I was hearing and reading very mixed reviews. The car is so much fun. I really loved it other than 1 thing that was a deal breaker for me. About 2 months in I started having issues with the Apple CarPlay. It would just randomly disconnect while on phone calls. It would never happen while on music or maps only phone calls. During a call it would move back and forth from my phone to the stereo system. Kia released an update that I installed and it fixed the problem. Only to come back again 2 months later. I called Kia and they said they had no information on it so I started doing research. I found a lot of forums with this complaint. All of them saying they took it to Kia and they couldn't fix it. So, I started just using Bluetooth. About a month after I did that it would just start disconnecting my phone calls. I drive a lot for work and this is the deal breaker for me. So, then I started feeling the AC not working right. So, I took it to Kia with both the problems. The AC compressor was going out. So, they had to order the compressor. They confirmed the Apple CarPlay issues and that Kia had no resolution for it. This is when we decided it was time to move on. At 21k miles and 11 months of ownership to have the one issue that couldn't be fixed and was desperately needed for me was just something I just couldn't live with. I loved the car. If it weren't for the CarPlay and the bluetooth both being broken and not having a fix I would have still been in that car. But, this just wasn't something I could live with. I actually thought about getting another one but at the end of the day I was concerned I would just have the same issues again.
Thank you for video but i have a question. What's the different Forte GT line 2022 between 2023 ? everything seems the same. Could you give me information please ?
Very good question. I really don't have a comparison of the 2. I keep seeing, hearing and the dealer told me minor refresh. But, I can't find anything different. I have looked for things like floor mats and they show availability for the 2022 but not for the 2023. I really don't know. But, I had the same questions.
@Ed Findlay Interesting. I couldn’t find any differences yet. The dealer told me there was a minor refresh. But, no one has been able to tell me what was refreshed. When I look for parts/accessories I can find for the 2022 but the 2023 not finding much. I called the dealer for all season floor mats and they have no info for the 2023. It’s weird.
I have a question, It might be kinda silly but I just got a 2023 Forte GT as my first car. Am I supposed to only fill it with Premium gas or can I fill it with any kind of gas like mid grade????
Great question! One of the beauties of this car is it only requires 87. Most of the turbo cars require premium but not this one. Honestly, I wouldn’t have bought it had it required premium. For me that would have defeated the purpose of the decent gas mileage it gets. Great question. Keep them coming and enjoy that car. It’s a lot of fun. Hope you will subscribe. I have more content here on this car and hopefully more useful info around the house.
Hey David. It is Snow White Pearl. You have no idea in person how nice it looks. In the sun the mica just glimmers. Both of the dealers I was working with told me it is by far the #1 color for this car.
@@DadsGarageDIY I just ordered one a couple weeks ago that’s Snow White pearl but they didn’t have one to show me at the dealership. It gets delivered this week and I’m so excited, the color looks amazing! Thank you!
@@David-zi7vl That is super exciting David. I had a deposit on one that was supposed to deliver on the 20th of September. I got a call 2 days after I put the deposit on it from a different dealer that had someone that ordered the one I bought and they bought another car while waiting for it so it became available. I jumped on it. I have to tell you, I am super impressed with this car. Super impressed! In my mind it is no question the big winner in the bang for the buck category. I have had this one for 2 1/2 weeks and already have 2400 miles on it. The only thing I am not real impressed with yet is the fuel economy. I am averaging 27 on my daily drives and we did take it on a trip. The trip was all highway, we keep it right on the speed limit and could only muster 32. Maybe it will get better after getting broken in.
Toyota Corolla is great for re-sale value. Eventually the Used car market will stabilize, and go back to how it was before COVID disrupted supply lines for key electronic components. But re-sale value means nothing if you're the sort to keep a car for many long years, while enjoying it. Regardless of Make and Model. In terms of performance, this car competes with the likes of the Hyundai N-Line, VW GTI, Honda Civic Si, Subaru WRX, and Mazda 3 Turbo. Granted, the KIA isn't going to be at the top of that list. But it does compete with those cars, and beats them on value. The Corolla is a good, very reliable, stable, No-Thrills ride. And, a lot of folks are very happy with that. But the KIA has the much better warranty.... Plus, you won't feel dead inside if you decide to stomp on the gas.
Fantastic input. I agree 100%. I have a lot of experience with the Corolla as well as I just drove my sons 2022 Corolla SE for the past 5 months while he was on military duty.
It will take a looong time for car prices and stock available to normalize even if chip manufacturing ramps up soon. As for the prices, nearly every manufacturer has raised MSRP's for the 2023 model year, some for '22, and I cant see those getting a whole lot better with the war in Ukraine still raging and politicians in the US/Europe (all western nations really) waging war on fossil fuels. That last part has an effect on far more than gas prices at the pump, as in quite literally everything that costs money.
Very good question. I now have 7,000 miles on it and not a single issue. No recalls yet either. I have the same curiosity as you about long term reliability. Time will tell but so far so good.
Hey gang, So, I've not driven a stick in a few. Rusty dusty, I am. I decided to buy the Forte Gt today and discovered just how rusty I am. I'm concerned over a couple things. I killed the engine a couple times..LOL It got worse. I'm having trouble finding 1st gear. I keep getting it in 3rd. There is the fear of jerking it into reverse, so maybe that is the reason. My driveway is on an incline. Have mercy. LOL. Finally, my biggest snafu was apparently not get into a gear fully and the stick violently vibrated. That really was very upsetting. So, in my learning slumber have I damaged anything?
I sure wouldn’t think so. I just bought another car with a stick too. 1st time I drove one in 18 years. It’s been fun rolling through the gears again. Hope to hear from you again. These cars are a lot of fun.
@@DadsGarageDIY I’m driving it now. I was fighting it too much. What I have learned is that I can’t accidentally slip into reverse. The button on the stick shift has to be pressed first. Then I learned I don’t need to search for the gears. They pretty much fall into place. One thing I can’t figure out, however, is the instrument panel is not giving me downshift indicators. Upshifting indicates when to shift. Odd.
I sold this after 11 months and 21,000 miles. Not issue with the transmission but other issues made me decide to trade it off. Problem #1 was not a deal breaker. But, the AC went out. They were going to fix it under warranty. But, what was the deal breaker is the audio system. It started with the CarPlay constantly disconnecting and reconnecting. But, only during phone calls. Worked fine for music, maps, all the rest. So, I started using bluetooth. I relay heavily on being able to be hands free. Well, a month later the when on phone calls it would randomly disconnect the calls. It was happening multiple times a day. So I took it to the dealer and they told e that there was nothing they could do to fix it. It was a know issues and Kia has no answers for it. I checked forums and I was seeing the same with many other owners. Problems, problems, problems (with CarPlay and bluetooth) and no answers. I loved the car otherwise. But, that was just intolerable for me.
@@mikespencer3824 I like it. Admittedly it is not as fun to drive as the Kia. The Kia feels much lighter (it is 400-500 pounds lighter), feels very nimble and sporty, The Kia seats I like a lot better. More bolstering. The Camry seats although sticked cool with the red are pretty typical sedan seats. The Camry though has 100 more horsepower and it's noticeable particularly on the highway. My gas mileage has been very interesting. My driving is 75% in town type driving. Not stop and go necessarily though. I keep all my mileage logs and I don't rely on the trip computer to calculate it. I will tell you the Kia's always registered about 4mpg better than it really was. The Camry is typically within 1mpg. The numbers I'm sharing are real calculated and not what the car lies to me with. In the Kia from day one till the day we sold it 28.2 mpg. The Camry from day one until today 25.6. I admittedly have a fairly heavy right foot. What is interesting is the best tank I ever got in the Kia was 33.2. That was on a 4.5 hour trip. On that trip I stayed within 5 mph of the speed limit just because I'm a numbers nerd and wanted to see what I could get out of it. Then the ironic part is I got the same exact mpg (33.2) on the same trip. And I was keeping it within 10 mph. Worst tank ever in the Kia 24.8. Worst ever in the Camry 21.8. No question in town the Kia will better the Camry. But, on the highway the Camry is as good despite the weight difference and that additional 100 horse power. With all this said if I could afford the additional $12,000 for the Camry TRD I would 100% go that route. Great questions Mike. Any other questions you have I will be glad to answer. I have another channel where I moved all my car content Dads Garage (car channel). I have more on the Camry over there. Not sure if I put any of the Kia stuff there or not. I did leave my good performing car videos here though.
Hi Roy. You get: heated & ventalated front seats 10 way drivers seat with power lumbar upgraded LED interior lighting rear parking sensors sunroof HK premium audio with 8 speakers Sport Seats w/ SynTex Seat Trim and Red Stitching It's quite a bit for $1900.
That is wild. I paid $25,300 for mine plus TT&L. It was like $28k out the door with no trade so I paid tax on the whole amount. I also added a few options like floor mats and tint. The $28k also included the $1000 destination charge.
@@DadsGarageDIY Yeah the up charge and taxes were out of this world! I recommend people to buy closer to the end of the year. Also I live in California
@@DadsGarageDIY I’ve been trying to get this car automatic for a few weeks now but everywhere around Pennsylvania is atleast $30,500 after taxes but comes with the GT2 package. I had the 2021 GT w/ the gt2 package and absolutely loved it so I guess I’ll have to swallow my pride and pay the extra money for it! But atleast they’re making them with remote start already installed! That’s a huge plus for me!
@@Kaxxonxbox Yeah. They have a lot a features for little money. Down here it's nearly impossible to find a GT2. But, GT's are available at MSRP from several dealers. There are a few that charge as much as $5-$6k over though. Sounds like at $30k for a GT2 they are marking up about $1500 over MSRP. Although the GT2 is a bargain in my opinion I really wanted the GT1 because this is just a daily for me. If it were my only car and I didn't have the toy in the garage I would have gone GT2. Really good to hear from you. I hope you get it. This is my 1st ever Kia product and I am really loving this car.
No. Wired only. And I have started having very annoying connectivity issues. The CarPlay and Bluetooth continually disconnects then reconnects. Very annoying when listening to music or on a phone call. I have looked this up online and this is a somewhat common issue but apparently Kia doesn’t know how to fix it. Ugh!
I guess to each his own. I like the the look on this car. On my Vette I have black wheels and I don’t like the chrome option at all. Also, this is a daily so I didn’t spend any extra money on it. Thanks for the comment Jimmy.
@@DadsGarageDIY alright because I ordered mine yesterday and I live in Canada, I didnt had that choice of sunroof or not. I only had the option of gt line which is the regular forte engine with the looks of the gt and the gt limited (which I took) with the 201hp turbo engine fully equip. That's why I was confused seeing no sunroof in your video.
@@kilerseb117 Makes complete sense. I have more Forte videos aiming by the end of the year. Please subscribe if you have not already. Thanks so much! Can’t wait to hear more about yours when you get it.
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I finally got my 2023 Forte GT steel gray (stick shift) and I like it a lot. After 16 years without driving a manual transmission car, I feel the Forte brought me back the fun!
Huge congrats to you Carlos. I am totally loving mine too. Could not be more happy with it. They are a lot of fun. Keep in touch. Would love to hear how you feel down the road. I have had mine for 9 weeks and love it as much today as I did the day I got it.
I live in NJ, and recently took my 2022 Forte GT on a 75-mile trip to another part of New Jersey. This was my first long ride than the local trips I usually do. I got 42 miles to the gallon. Not bad, right. Oh, it was 99% highway.
I haven’t been able to muster more than 32 on a long drive so far. Hoping it will get better when broken in. The time we got 32 was on on long 350 mile drive on highway only at the speed limit. So it was about 75 mph.
Thats incredible gas mileage! Guess it makes sense if you consider it's a small 1.6l 4cyl on the Aktinson cycle when off boost..and thats straight highway driving. But lol at 75 miles being a "long ride", down here in Texas thats a daily commute for a lot of people who live in far flung burbs yet work in one of the cities😁
@@jbm0866 I agree. I can't get that down hill with a tailwind.
@@jbm0866 I do wander though tif that is based on the computer in the car. As much as I love the car I have to say this is one of the most inaccurate cars I have ever seen in calculating MPG. Mine reads 3-4 mpg high every tank.
Bought the 22 GT in April. I have never been more happy with a car. I like it better than the GTI I used to have.
I have had a lot of very cool cars. You would think that would make my expectation where I would be very hard to please. But, I have to tell you this car is beyond my expectations in every way (other than fuel economy). I could not be more thrilled. Thanks for the input James. Hope you will subscribe and give more of your input on other videos. Great stuff my friend,.
I just bought my 2023 yesterday. I absolutely love it
I don't think that will change. I still love mine 6000 miles in now. Love it more every day. I have had a lot of very nice cars so I expected my standards to be beyond what this car could offer and I have been extremely surprised. I am more and more surprised and pleased every day. More videos coming on this car. Please subscribe and stay tuned.
Absolutely love my 22' GT2!!!, I also have a 2018 with 100k miles on it and it has been a rock, no issues at all.
Fantastic to hear. I could not be more pleased with mine. Just drooped a new video on the GT on Thursday. Got another soon too. I appreciate you!
@@DadsGarageDIY cool, I'll check em out.
@@fortifiedgt2754 Thank you so much. If people keep watching the Forte stuff I will keep doing more. Appreciate your support.
I’m honestly stunned at the features and styling for the price. I’m gonna look more closely at this when I need a new daily
I would. Well, I did. LOL
I am still quite surprised by it. I put 700 miles on it in the 1st week. It is surprisingly nimble. It corners very well. It's peppy. No race car for sure. But, when compared with similarly priced cars it's gonna leave them behind. The seats are super comfortable. We are going to road trip in it in 2 weeks. Looking forward the the fuel economy on the road and how good the seats feel on a long drive. The bolstering in the seats is quite impressive. They really keep you where you are supposed to be. Overall for a $25k car I give it a solid 9. Not sure what it could do to make it a 10 short of 50 more horsepower or a little better fuel economy. So far really liking it for a daily driver. After driving the 2022 Corolla for the past 5 months I would take this 100 times out of 100 over the Corolla. The only thing the Corolla does better is slightly better fuel economy. Way more equipment than the Corolla, a better warranty and now less expensive. Don't get me wrong the Corolla is great for what it is. The little GT is just better in virtually every aspect.
@@DadsGarageDIY Just some back up sensors would be nice. Other than that it seems like a complete steal!
@@LeonExile05 It actually has the cross traffic alert. It’s crazy how much it has for the money!
@@DadsGarageDIY Does it have the two different angles of back up camera so you can see how close to a curb you are?
Just purchased this same exact car and it is amazing in all respects and so much fun to drive this is coming from an owner of a 2021 Civic Type R.
WOW! Those Type R’s are awesome. I am loving this car. I just posted a video last week with my long term review. I have had it since August and rolled over 13,000 miles this morning.
Finally got mine Saturday Snow White pearl GT I love it.
Awesome! Congratulations! Keep in touch and let me know how you continue to feel about it.
I will tell you, it all depends on driving in regards to the manual. In my 22 forte got manual, I’ve gotten as high as 45 miles to the gallon. If you treat the car well it delivers very good fuel Economy .
I have a manual Forte GT 22 too and the MPG is very good, higher than the official numbers.
I hope the auto turns around. So far my numbers are lower than advertised. I just took a trip where we were on the speed limit the entire 350 miles and it could only muster 32 mpg. City so are is averaging just under 27. I am also hoping that it gets better once it gets broken in. Crossing my fingers.
I've gotten 39 mph highway
Nope. I did not get the notification. WTH!?
This review just started but super professional. I think you could do a bunch of great reviews.
Thanks buddy. I really appreciate that. I liked the way it came out too. And notifications....LOL
This car needs a bit more refinement but for what it is the cost and warranty it is the best equipped and best value car period. By refinement
1. Infotainment needs to be nicer looking
2. Gauges need to just have a screen between the tach and speedo that covers the whole negative space
3. The tail lights need to have that center section eliminated
4. Turn signals and reverse lights need to be moved into the tail lights where they belong
5. Maybe better ambient lighting
5. This car needs a performance model gt3 package that has all the elantra n performance 280hp with the stuff from gt2. Needs to stay under 30k
6. Maybe an awd version with 300hp/300tq the k5 gt stuff would be a good fit. Keep the weight down and have it be 32k gt4 package
But the fully loaded setup is 27k you can't beat it for what it comes with
Love all the thought you put into this. I like all your thoughts. The think I agree most with is your point #4. They are down there where they are hard to see and honestly when they are lit up look pretty goofy. I really appreciate the input.
It is but it would be better if they did better with ambient lighting changed interior buttons to white and moved the turn signals and reverse lights into the tail lights where they belong also removing that useless center section.
I could not agree more with any of the things that you mentioned. Especially putting those turn signals so low in the bumper. I’ve had people tell me that they didn’t even see when I had turn signals on because they’re so low.
Great daily driver video!
Thank you sir.
My 1st car review video and I think it came out pretty good.
@@DadsGarageDIY yeah it was good to watch.
@@ProtectiveDadPranks Thank you sir.
I just got mine. Love it
I understand why. They are a lot of fun.
That pacing feature is road rage if done to strangers on open roads. Creepy. Please do not do that to me on an open road.
I am lost as to what you are talking about.
@@DadsGarageDIY it’s when someone is driving on an open freeway. Then a car follows me, I accelerate. They accelerate, I slow down. They slow down. Why would they keep doing that if I want to be alone on the open road for safety? I’ve had to decrease my speed by 20 mph or increase by 20, to get them away. If that’s caused by a cars feature, I’m speechless. Maybe you can explain this pacing feature you described in the cruise control?
@@joeymasterson4395 I understand what you are saying now. The majority of the cars in the past few years come with this feature. The idea is not to annoy or stalk people but for safety. It's intended to keep a minimal distance so you can safely stop (provided you're paying attention) or brake if the traffic suddenly stops. I think it's a tremendous safety feature. Hope that helps. If not, hit me back and we can continue the conversation.
Thanks for explaining that. It’s scary especially since road rage is up 400%. 👍🏼
@@joeymasterson4395 Very welcome! Hope to hear from you on another video. Love the conversation.
Only wish AWD WAS AVAILABLE AS THE EXPERTS SHOW IT IS JUST SAFER ACROSS THE BOARD.
I’ve watched all your Kia videos and have enjoyed them but what I want to know is how do you feel about the long term usage with Kia‘s and what would you say about people who have had bad experiences
Hi Jesse. Great questions and I really appreciate you watching. As far as long term I really don’t know. Although I buy a lot of cars this is my 1st Kia. I’m racking up the miles so I’m getting closer to that answer. In the 7 months I have had it I’ve run over 14k miles. I have had hundreds of comments on the videos in which I read and reply to every one. I have one had one negative all the others have been overwhelmingly positive. When I watch other videos I haven’t seen much in the way of negative either. The only things I have seen is when people over modify them and then suffer a catastrophic failure. I can’t blame that on Kia quality. Just like the Scat Packs I used to have. Absolutely bulletproof 392 engines. But, you go through boost at it like you would a Coyote and your going to blow it up. I wouldn’t then call the 392 junk. I call that a moron doing the mod. Anyway, time will tell. I will report any significant issues to you all. Thanks Jesse. Keep the great questions coming!
I love this car. Such a great looking and driving car.
I have enjoyed it too. I am liking it better every day. It really drives great, is comfortable and is not great but pretty good at everything. For the money it is spot on.
@@DadsGarageDIY I really like this car and I would say that the white and red color are the best looking ones. They are trying to get me to pay 29 k for a red one in Texas.
@@ethanmelton2914 I really like the white. It looks really clean. I could have had a red one sooner. I am in the DFW area. I had to wait for a white one. I paid right at MSRP. Are you in the DFW area? If so, I can give you 2 dealerships you can call that will not charger you over MSPR. In the description I put the name and # of my salesman. Call him and tell him you saw my video. He will take care of you really well. I don't get anything for saying that. I just know he took care of me really good. Let me know how it goes and please subscribe. I really would appreciate that Ethan.
@@DadsGarageDIY ok I will have to check that out out I live in Houston so they got me at $30,500 after tax title license window tint out the door. They said this is msrp after all the markups am I missing something.
@@ethanmelton2914 MSRP is $24,300. Destination is about $1,000. Tax in Texas is 6.25%. That’s $1,581 if you have no trade. So, now your still under $27k. Title and license is only a few hundred. So, unless they are charging you a LOT for tint there is something else there. Could it be a GT2? That adds $1900. A manual transmission adds $700. So, if you have all that you are getting pretty close.
I requested a notification. Maybe I’ll actually get notified. Maybe…
We can hope. Lol
Trying the premier thing to see if they get more noticed. Since people get a little heads up we will see.
I love my 22 Forte GT2 it’s amazing
I feel the same. Could not be more happy.
I bought a 23 GT in 6speed. So far averaging 30.1 mpg mixed. Not bad. I don’t like that on the Highway at 80mph it’s sitting at 3500RPM
Hey Chad. Is that 30.1 what the computer is calculating or you calculating it? Mine is averaging just under 28. But the computer is calculating it as over 30. The computer is so inaccurate in this car. With the auto I am turning about 3100 rpm at 80. It does seem high to me too.
@@DadsGarageDIY right now it’s what the computer is calculating. I’ll update you when I feel up Friday.
@@chadp3400 Cool Chad. Hope yours is more accurate than mine. 3 mpg doesn't necessarily sound like a lot but that's 10%.
Im currently in the market for a Forte GT or GT line (depends if i can even get one) but my concern is I heard the 1.6 L Turbo lasts about 250,000km before dying. (Sorry I'm from Canada)
Yeah, I have heard a lot of people say these are good for about 100k miles. I already traded it. I was having some issues already. Some of which Kia has no fixes for. My wife said time to dump it. I don't need any excuse to buy a new car. So, it was gone within days of her saying that.
@@DadsGarageDIY Oh no!!! I hope you got a better car. Now you're making me reconsider my decision. May I ask what we're some of the problems/issues you were dealing with? This will be a deal breaker for me as all I heard was good things but in truth, I would like yo hear reality things. Thanks in advance
@@lastoneleft5945 I had heard all good going in too. And for most of my ownership I heard positive. But, as time went along I was hearing and reading very mixed reviews. The car is so much fun. I really loved it other than 1 thing that was a deal breaker for me. About 2 months in I started having issues with the Apple CarPlay. It would just randomly disconnect while on phone calls. It would never happen while on music or maps only phone calls. During a call it would move back and forth from my phone to the stereo system. Kia released an update that I installed and it fixed the problem. Only to come back again 2 months later. I called Kia and they said they had no information on it so I started doing research. I found a lot of forums with this complaint. All of them saying they took it to Kia and they couldn't fix it. So, I started just using Bluetooth. About a month after I did that it would just start disconnecting my phone calls. I drive a lot for work and this is the deal breaker for me. So, then I started feeling the AC not working right. So, I took it to Kia with both the problems. The AC compressor was going out. So, they had to order the compressor. They confirmed the Apple CarPlay issues and that Kia had no resolution for it. This is when we decided it was time to move on. At 21k miles and 11 months of ownership to have the one issue that couldn't be fixed and was desperately needed for me was just something I just couldn't live with. I loved the car. If it weren't for the CarPlay and the bluetooth both being broken and not having a fix I would have still been in that car. But, this just wasn't something I could live with. I actually thought about getting another one but at the end of the day I was concerned I would just have the same issues again.
Thank you for video but i have a question.
What's the different Forte GT line 2022 between 2023 ?
everything seems the same.
Could you give me information please ?
Very good question. I really don't have a comparison of the 2. I keep seeing, hearing and the dealer told me minor refresh. But, I can't find anything different. I have looked for things like floor mats and they show availability for the 2022 but not for the 2023. I really don't know. But, I had the same questions.
@Ed Findlay Interesting. I couldn’t find any differences yet. The dealer told me there was a minor refresh. But, no one has been able to tell me what was refreshed. When I look for parts/accessories I can find for the 2022 but the 2023 not finding much. I called the dealer for all season floor mats and they have no info for the 2023. It’s weird.
Mechanically the same, just cosmetic updates to go along with the new style Kia logo.
I have a question, It might be kinda silly but I just got a 2023 Forte GT as my first car. Am I supposed to only fill it with Premium gas or can I fill it with any kind of gas like mid grade????
Great question! One of the beauties of this car is it only requires 87. Most of the turbo cars require premium but not this one. Honestly, I wouldn’t have bought it had it required premium. For me that would have defeated the purpose of the decent gas mileage it gets. Great question. Keep them coming and enjoy that car. It’s a lot of fun. Hope you will subscribe. I have more content here on this car and hopefully more useful info around the house.
Ok, Thanks for the fast reply
@@MateoMiranda-hz6nd very welcome!
Also throwing all the elantra N stuff in it
Now that would be amazing!
Great video! One question I have is what is the specific color of the car?
Hey David. It is Snow White Pearl. You have no idea in person how nice it looks. In the sun the mica just glimmers. Both of the dealers I was working with told me it is by far the #1 color for this car.
@@DadsGarageDIY I just ordered one a couple weeks ago that’s Snow White pearl but they didn’t have one to show me at the dealership. It gets delivered this week and I’m so excited, the color looks amazing! Thank you!
@@David-zi7vl That is super exciting David. I had a deposit on one that was supposed to deliver on the 20th of September. I got a call 2 days after I put the deposit on it from a different dealer that had someone that ordered the one I bought and they bought another car while waiting for it so it became available. I jumped on it. I have to tell you, I am super impressed with this car. Super impressed! In my mind it is no question the big winner in the bang for the buck category. I have had this one for 2 1/2 weeks and already have 2400 miles on it. The only thing I am not real impressed with yet is the fuel economy. I am averaging 27 on my daily drives and we did take it on a trip. The trip was all highway, we keep it right on the speed limit and could only muster 32. Maybe it will get better after getting broken in.
@@DadsGarageDIY thank you for the information!
@@David-zi7vl You're welcome sir. I look forward to chatting more once you get yours.
Toyota Corolla is great for re-sale value. Eventually the Used car market will stabilize, and go back to how it was before COVID disrupted supply lines for key electronic components. But re-sale value means nothing if you're the sort to keep a car for many long years, while enjoying it. Regardless of Make and Model.
In terms of performance, this car competes with the likes of the Hyundai N-Line, VW GTI, Honda Civic Si, Subaru WRX, and Mazda 3 Turbo. Granted, the KIA isn't going to be at the top of that list. But it does compete with those cars, and beats them on value.
The Corolla is a good, very reliable, stable, No-Thrills ride. And, a lot of folks are very happy with that. But the KIA has the much better warranty.... Plus, you won't feel dead inside if you decide to stomp on the gas.
Fantastic input. I agree 100%. I have a lot of experience with the Corolla as well as I just drove my sons 2022 Corolla SE for the past 5 months while he was on military duty.
@Ed Findlay Wow! That’s wild.
It will take a looong time for car prices and stock available to normalize even if chip manufacturing ramps up soon. As for the prices, nearly every manufacturer has raised MSRP's for the 2023 model year, some for '22, and I cant see those getting a whole lot better with the war in Ukraine still raging and politicians in the US/Europe (all western nations really) waging war on fossil fuels. That last part has an effect on far more than gas prices at the pump, as in quite literally everything that costs money.
So far i like this better than civic si but how is reliability? Also, is there any recall?
Very good question. I now have 7,000 miles on it and not a single issue. No recalls yet either. I have the same curiosity as you about long term reliability. Time will tell but so far so good.
Please subscribe to the channel. If anything happens I will certainly have a video about it.
Features r def great in canada. it also comes with heated steering wheel n sunroof!!
@@tjkim382 Nice. Features way better than a Corolla SE also for the same money. Also has a lot more power than the Corolla.
@@DadsGarageDIY Yes I have accord 2012 V6 271 hp. Is it gonna b alot slower?
Hey gang,
So, I've not driven a stick in a few. Rusty dusty, I am. I decided to buy the Forte Gt today and discovered just how rusty I am. I'm concerned over a couple things. I killed the engine a couple times..LOL
It got worse. I'm having trouble finding 1st gear. I keep getting it in 3rd. There is the fear of jerking it into reverse, so maybe that is the reason. My driveway is on an incline. Have mercy. LOL.
Finally, my biggest snafu was apparently not get into a gear fully and the stick violently vibrated. That really was very upsetting.
So, in my learning slumber have I damaged anything?
I sure wouldn’t think so. I just bought another car with a stick too. 1st time I drove one in 18 years. It’s been fun rolling through the gears again. Hope to hear from you again. These cars are a lot of fun.
@Dads Garage I'll admit, I'm paranoid about it. I must have OCD. My brain only sees the error, not the outcome. It's probably fine.
@@Biggerbyte I think so. I think everything will be fine.
@@DadsGarageDIY I’m driving it now. I was fighting it too much. What I have learned is that I can’t accidentally slip into reverse. The button on the stick shift has to be pressed first. Then I learned I don’t need to search for the gears. They pretty much fall into place. One thing I can’t figure out, however, is the instrument panel is not giving me downshift indicators. Upshifting indicates when to shift. Odd.
@@Biggerbyte That’s somewhat common. The upshift lights are trying to tell you when to shift for best fuel economy.
How reliable is the on the 7 speed duel clutch? Any problems anyone?
I sold this after 11 months and 21,000 miles. Not issue with the transmission but other issues made me decide to trade it off. Problem #1 was not a deal breaker. But, the AC went out. They were going to fix it under warranty. But, what was the deal breaker is the audio system. It started with the CarPlay constantly disconnecting and reconnecting. But, only during phone calls. Worked fine for music, maps, all the rest. So, I started using bluetooth. I relay heavily on being able to be hands free. Well, a month later the when on phone calls it would randomly disconnect the calls. It was happening multiple times a day. So I took it to the dealer and they told e that there was nothing they could do to fix it. It was a know issues and Kia has no answers for it. I checked forums and I was seeing the same with many other owners. Problems, problems, problems (with CarPlay and bluetooth) and no answers. I loved the car otherwise. But, that was just intolerable for me.
@@DadsGarageDIY ,
Thank you Sir! Bad deal for sure. What are you driving now?
@@mikespencer3824I traded it for a Camry TRD.
@@DadsGarageDIY ,
How do you like that one and what kind of gas mileage? Thank you!
@@mikespencer3824 I like it. Admittedly it is not as fun to drive as the Kia. The Kia feels much lighter (it is 400-500 pounds lighter), feels very nimble and sporty, The Kia seats I like a lot better. More bolstering. The Camry seats although sticked cool with the red are pretty typical sedan seats. The Camry though has 100 more horsepower and it's noticeable particularly on the highway. My gas mileage has been very interesting. My driving is 75% in town type driving. Not stop and go necessarily though. I keep all my mileage logs and I don't rely on the trip computer to calculate it. I will tell you the Kia's always registered about 4mpg better than it really was. The Camry is typically within 1mpg. The numbers I'm sharing are real calculated and not what the car lies to me with. In the Kia from day one till the day we sold it 28.2 mpg. The Camry from day one until today 25.6. I admittedly have a fairly heavy right foot. What is interesting is the best tank I ever got in the Kia was 33.2. That was on a 4.5 hour trip. On that trip I stayed within 5 mph of the speed limit just because I'm a numbers nerd and wanted to see what I could get out of it. Then the ironic part is I got the same exact mpg (33.2) on the same trip. And I was keeping it within 10 mph. Worst tank ever in the Kia 24.8. Worst ever in the Camry 21.8. No question in town the Kia will better the Camry. But, on the highway the Camry is as good despite the weight difference and that additional 100 horse power. With all this said if I could afford the additional $12,000 for the Camry TRD I would 100% go that route. Great questions Mike. Any other questions you have I will be glad to answer. I have another channel where I moved all my car content Dads Garage (car channel). I have more on the Camry over there. Not sure if I put any of the Kia stuff there or not. I did leave my good performing car videos here though.
What is the G2 Package? I tried googling it, and even checking the kia site but no luck.
just adds more stuff
Hi Roy. You get:
heated & ventalated front seats
10 way drivers seat with power lumbar
upgraded LED interior lighting
rear parking sensors
sunroof
HK premium audio with 8 speakers
Sport Seats w/ SynTex Seat Trim and Red Stitching
It's quite a bit for $1900.
And quite a bit at a bargain price.
What Dads Garage said... I bought my 2023 Forte GT2 (DCT) almost 2 weeks ago. Get the GT2, well worth the small price increase.
Best optioned car for 30k. I think id still take an elantra N line over this
I agree. Great bargain!
I bought one last week a 2023 Kia Forte GT 6 speed manual. Price out the door after signing $41 k US. So be ware not really $25k MSRP
That is wild. I paid $25,300 for mine plus TT&L. It was like $28k out the door with no trade so I paid tax on the whole amount. I also added a few options like floor mats and tint. The $28k also included the $1000 destination charge.
@@DadsGarageDIY Yeah the up charge and taxes were out of this world! I recommend people to buy closer to the end of the year. Also I live in California
@@athena11711 That is absolutely insane! I can't believe they are doing that. Aught to be criminal. Enjoy the car Erick. I am really liking mine.
@@DadsGarageDIY I’ve been trying to get this car automatic for a few weeks now but everywhere around Pennsylvania is atleast $30,500 after taxes but comes with the GT2 package. I had the 2021 GT w/ the gt2 package and absolutely loved it so I guess I’ll have to swallow my pride and pay the extra money for it! But atleast they’re making them with remote start already installed! That’s a huge plus for me!
@@Kaxxonxbox Yeah. They have a lot a features for little money. Down here it's nearly impossible to find a GT2. But, GT's are available at MSRP from several dealers. There are a few that charge as much as $5-$6k over though. Sounds like at $30k for a GT2 they are marking up about $1500 over MSRP. Although the GT2 is a bargain in my opinion I really wanted the GT1 because this is just a daily for me. If it were my only car and I didn't have the toy in the garage I would have gone GT2. Really good to hear from you. I hope you get it. This is my 1st ever Kia product and I am really loving this car.
What size is the temporary spare?
185 80 16
I purchased a steel grey GT Friday. I had the windows tinted yesterday, I'm already modifying it.
Let me know what mods you go with. It’s aliquot but I want more power. Lol
@Dads Garage me too, but its only got 150 miles on it. I have a 2018 turbo soul, maybe I'll try a tuner on it first.
@@timothyryan2847 Those are the 1.6T in those too aren’t they?
@Dads Garage yep, thats why I bought a forte with the same drive train, my wife drives the soul and loves it.
@@timothyryan2847 Nice. Keep in touch. I’m interested in mods too.
is there wireless apple carplay?
No. Wired only. And I have started having very annoying connectivity issues. The CarPlay and Bluetooth continually disconnects then reconnects. Very annoying when listening to music or on a phone call. I have looked this up online and this is a somewhat common issue but apparently Kia doesn’t know how to fix it. Ugh!
@@DadsGarageDIY might want to look into a wireless adapater
@@s5low738 I tried one and same issue. Now sure what is going on other than no matter how you try to connect it disconnects. It's getting old.
Where r the black rims? That aluminum looks awful on white
I guess to each his own. I like the the look on this car. On my Vette I have black wheels and I don’t like the chrome option at all. Also, this is a daily so I didn’t spend any extra money on it. Thanks for the comment Jimmy.
@@DadsGarageDIY ya, I have the 2019 Forte gt...white w black rims. I was looking at this year's model, but I can't find the black rims anywhere.
@@jimmykearns7464 I bet you can get them aftermarket. Not an option from Kia though. Good to hear from you Jimmy.
No sunroof?
Nope. Didn’t go GT2. GT2 is a bargain. But, the intent of this car for me was back and forth to work while my toy sits in the garage.
@@DadsGarageDIY alright because I ordered mine yesterday and I live in Canada, I didnt had that choice of sunroof or not. I only had the option of gt line which is the regular forte engine with the looks of the gt and the gt limited (which I took) with the 201hp turbo engine fully equip. That's why I was confused seeing no sunroof in your video.
@@kilerseb117 Makes complete sense. I have more Forte videos aiming by the end of the year. Please subscribe if you have not already. Thanks so much! Can’t wait to hear more about yours when you get it.
@@DadsGarageDIY sure! Thanks for making this video. Definitely helped me make my choice
@@kilerseb117 Thank you so much and you’re welcome! Talk soon.
no moonroof?
You have to go GT2 to get sun roof.
@@DadsGarageDIY in the process of getting my gt built wont be here till august! so stoked!!!
@@LostInSpace175 Awesome to hear! Can't wait until you get it and I hear from you.
i have a 2023 gt
Awesome! How are you liking it?
i like the car, but has way less hp than the vette
Gee, ya think. LOL
@@DadsGarageDIY lmfaoooo
You can actually use the horsepower daily and keep less miles on the Vette win win
@@curt2233 💯. And save about $400 a month in gas. Win, win, win. Lol. Thanks Curt!
I keep the Vette in the garage and use the Forte GT as a family hauler. Win win