@@hugobasilio1303 I've been waiting to come across a comment on this similarity! I thought of Markiplier immediately the moment I first heard Geoff speaking in an interview.
Mark is already very used to engaging his false folds everyday, whenever he's talking or singing. Add his already low chest voice and you've got a recipe for accidental Kargyraa C1s 😄
@@maloxi1472 It just surprised me, 'cause I think kargyraa is harder to do accidentally, because you have to force your vocal chords a little bit, and usually we don't really do that unless we make some "angry noises", if you know what I mean. Meanwhile, to activate the subharmonic technique, you need to relax your voice, and to be honest, I personally talk with a relaxed voice in much more cases than stressfully, or whatever.
@@tamasgal9593 To clear up some misconceptions, Kargyraa is a form of subharmonic singing (ventricular/false folds subharmonics). What you call the "subharmonic technique" is another form (true folds subharmonics). In the first instance, the sub is produced by 3:2 interference between the two sets of vocal folds and in the second, it's produced by out-of-sync (again 3:2) closure of the true vocal folds. True folds subs need more precision and false folds subs need more breath pressure and, of course, engagement of the false folds. What's easier depends on the particular singer's habits. From watching his vids, Mark is more of a false folds type of speaker/singer (Jonathan Young is another example of this pattern)
2:05... Okay now that I'm certain that it's subharmonics, Technoblade does a lot of accidental subharmonics if you watch his streams. I know I've at least heard one or two besides this one.
@@rtsbass7829 I can reach some of those... "fry"s, some come out clean, like, sudently they like to drop 2 octaves from the normal tone. But i can't figure out yet how to give that diferent vibration a volume, like, more gain, idk... They sound low volume, passing very few air when humming like that. I want to make subarmonics so much, but I just discovered it was a technic. I've been practicing for one week and from nothing to here, I already improved a tiny bit.
@@reagindoerindo4311 I know what you mean because I am a Bass 2 and reaching low notes is really easy especially when using Subharmonic. Of course when I first started I would get little voice cracks and it would usually just sound very quiet but after a lot of practice its like a natural thing I can do.
@@scratchingcatclaw Yeah I tried to learn it about a year ago, after realising I could do some sort of thing like sub harmonics but it was shaking and.. anyway my point is my voice generally became croakier
I catch my friends talking in subharmonics all. the. time. But they think I have no idea what I'm talking about. They don't understand that subharmonics aren't hard to learn/do- they're hard to control
I don't like "accidental subharmonics," honestly. I consider it vocal fry. But when subharmonics are done on purpose and they're well controlled without struggle, then they're pretty cool.
probably going to make a vocalist angry here, but vocal fry is a part of subharmonics; you use a little bit of vocal fry and a chest note at the same time and because the sound waves interact with each other it messes with the frequency that is output and drops it an octave; this is grossly oversimplified and I recommend looking up videos specifically about subharmonics. personally, I use chest notes, vocal fry, chest-fry (something that's just outside of your chest note range that you can still somewhat reach with very small vocal fry), and plenty of silly subharmonics and although they are very, very similar, the way you apply the vocal fry determines what notes you're hitting. I hope this helps!
Is there a way to get rid of these subharmonics? I use my voice to create AI generated voices and it seems these unwanted subharmonics makes the AI go crazy, I wish there was a way to avoid these subharmonics, the only solution I found so far is to raise the pitch of my voice but sometimes I need to use my talking/low register and these nasty subharmonics appears and make the AI algorithm fail.
Subharmonics have a distinct pitch. Whereas fry is random noise that is either pitchless or not a stable pitch. That being said, I think a few of these might be just fry.
Video named "FEEDVID" at about 21:10, fun fact: I have made the original clip of the markiplier clip that is seen in this video, that is why there is two C1 symbols.
My natural voice is around f2-d2 normal/ hyped convo...... But in recording I sound like the nice guy pitch, like when you try to sound nice u have that high pitch vibes, my normal time has that but the pitch is still between f2/d2 why I get an illustration that I sound high pitched
My accidental sub is Bb0 And when I am on the phone, people tell me I have to repeat myself because my voice just simply drops so low when I am speaking naturally. I heard posted videos of my speaking voice, but you know, people call it fry, people are hateful so we are hateful so F 'em.
Wait this is subharmonics( even tho accidental)? I had no idea 🤣because that happens to me a lot when I speak and it doesn't make it any better with a thick southern accident too🤣🤣🤣
In a sense, a subharmonic is vocal fry that is supported, tends to be louder, and is a drop in pitch exactly 1 octave from the principle tone. Once you get used to them happening, you can do them at-will. And, the deeper your voice is naturally, the deeper the subharmonics will be... it is a technique purposely used by a lot of bass singers to go insanely deep; much deeper than any average bass singer could do in their natural voice.
To do a subharmonic, you're singing a chest note but activating the false folds underneath which are vibrating at half the frequency, and that's how you make the subharmonic sound. its really easy to do by accident, especially when you're trained with them because they kinda force you to be relaxed while singing it, and your vocal chords are always gonna be relaxed when you're speaking unless you're speaking very loudly.
@@red5250, for subharmonics as we know, the false folds aren't engaged. Rather, the principle is produced in chest voice and allowed to slip into a light fry. For most of this, that causes one vocal fold to maintain the principle and for the other to slip into a perfect 5th. When combined, this causes the note we hear to be exactly one octave lower than the principle. There are other techniques, but they all involve the principle and octave higher and a perfect 5th being sang simultaneously..
@@red5250, there are a couple different ways to achieve them. For me, I cannot do the false vocal cord version... but I know other people who do really well at them... doing the supported fry version, I can get down to G0 every single day or Eb0 on a very good day. I used to be a purist and only saw chest voice and chest-fry as real singing... that has since changed... if it sounds good, I don't care how it's done.
I noticed my english teacher does a lot of accidental subs, so i am counting how many he does each day of 2 weeks, and then i get an average amount of subs😆 PS: he does not know about it lol
lmao anything by the guy at 1:09 is not accidental. you're trying WAY too hard if you include stuff from him. that's one of his bread and butter skills. even talking he's gotta be aware of it.
Well, a subharmonic is vocal fry that is supported, focused, and uses breath control to maintain pitch. So, yeah, they are vocal fry... but a different type of vocal fry. It's very easy to tell a subharmonic from pure fry: you will hear both the principle pitch and subharmonic at the same time, which gives it a buzz quality and a distinct sound. Every single vocal note I heard here was a subharmonic.
Thanks for using my C1 markiplier accidental sub clip, lmao.
BSN?
@@rtsbass7829 Yep, Doctor Polski
Markiplier's vocal timbre sounds like Geoff's vocal timbre!!!😂😂😂
@@hugobasilio1303 I've been waiting to come across a comment on this similarity! I thought of Markiplier immediately the moment I first heard Geoff speaking in an interview.
@@rtsbass7829 1:28 should have used daily dose of internet
2:24: How talented do you have to be to hold an accidental subharmonic note that long?😂 He deserves a crown for that.🙏
Mark is already very used to engaging his false folds everyday, whenever he's talking or singing.
Add his already low chest voice and you've got a recipe for accidental Kargyraa C1s 😄
@@maloxi1472 Ok...😂 That sounds awesome.
But for real? Kargyraa?
@@tamasgal9593 Yup. False folds subharmonics 😉 It sounds messy but a sub is a sub.
@@maloxi1472 It just surprised me, 'cause I think kargyraa is harder to do accidentally, because you have to force your vocal chords a little bit, and usually we don't really do that unless we make some "angry noises", if you know what I mean. Meanwhile, to activate the subharmonic technique, you need to relax your voice, and to be honest, I personally talk with a relaxed voice in much more cases than stressfully, or whatever.
@@tamasgal9593 To clear up some misconceptions, Kargyraa is a form of subharmonic singing (ventricular/false folds subharmonics). What you call the "subharmonic technique" is another form (true folds subharmonics).
In the first instance, the sub is produced by 3:2 interference between the two sets of vocal folds and in the second, it's produced by out-of-sync (again 3:2) closure of the true vocal folds. True folds subs need more precision and false folds subs need more breath pressure and, of course, engagement of the false folds. What's easier depends on the particular singer's habits. From watching his vids, Mark is more of a false folds type of speaker/singer (Jonathan Young is another example of this pattern)
Lil Wayne should be in here all day long.
That guy basically is 10% voice, 70% subharmonic, 20% fry
2:55 Would be some great irony if his lowest purposeful note was higher than G#0.
2:05... Okay now that I'm certain that it's subharmonics, Technoblade does a lot of accidental subharmonics if you watch his streams. I know I've at least heard one or two besides this one.
Most of them are sub-fry, because they arent full placed and fry remains behind.
Yeah, because people were not aiming at dropping in subharmonic register, so they didn't let's say "support" the note
@@rtsbass7829 I can reach some of those... "fry"s, some come out clean, like, sudently they like to drop 2 octaves from the normal tone. But i can't figure out yet how to give that diferent vibration a volume, like, more gain, idk... They sound low volume, passing very few air when humming like that.
I want to make subarmonics so much, but I just discovered it was a technic. I've been practicing for one week and from nothing to here, I already improved a tiny bit.
@@reagindoerindo4311 I know what you mean because I am a Bass 2 and reaching low notes is really easy especially when using Subharmonic. Of course when I first started I would get little voice cracks and it would usually just sound very quiet but after a lot of practice its like a natural thing I can do.
Now THAT'S some perfect pitch
The Way David Larson said "B flat" hitting his subharmonic at the same note is legendary
Accidental second subs are so unbelievably rare and cool
I speak like this on the regular 😂 no wonder ppl look at me a way
@@officialyoungaye lol, they sound find to whoever’s doing them but to everyone else your speaking voice is F#1 it’s really funny
It’s not rare at all clearly by this video dude
2:06 R.I.P The Legendary Techo... 😭
R.I.P.
I've noticed once you learn how to do subharmonic it's a lot a lot easier to do it accidentally
Oh Really! I just understood it too haha
I recently started learning subharmonics, and every now and then I accidentally do them while talking
@@scratchingcatclaw Yeah I tried to learn it about a year ago, after realising I could do some sort of thing like sub harmonics but it was shaking and.. anyway my point is my voice generally became croakier
as a music major i had no clue there was a name for this
So no one's gonna talk about 2:27 ?!?!?! I FELT THAT IN MY SOUL!!!
Don't tell me that everytime you watch a video you're still keen on looking for subharmonics.
Dude's just watching a video about dandruff and he notices a subharmonic and puts it in a video
Lmao yes
This video is just what I was looking for
1:58 song name is "the gambler" by kenny rodgers
Didn’t Home Free cover this song?
Nice compilation! I also keep hearing subharmonics everywhere. I can definitely send you some clips if you want...
Yes! I would love to get some new clips!
@@rtsbass7829 What was your Discord user name? I would like to send you clips over there.
@@jmbmusic1 My discord nickname is RTS_Bass I often send clips of me singing
What do people feel when they hear these accidental notes?
I don't think people feel something cuz like less than 0.01% have even heard about subharmonics before.
@@rtsbass7829 dang that sucks
it's just something that comes out while talking, I don't think it's seen as anything special
I laughed so hard at the G#0.
Lol me too How did he hear that
I just realized that CORPSE probably does this a lot, like almost constantly
he has a sick voice with perpetual vocal fry
2:33 is that president Bashar Al Asad singing??? i need the link to that clip plz 😂😂😂😂
I thought the same 😂
So literally any vocal fry is considered “accidental subharmonics” now 💀
Clearly you have no idea what's the difference between the subs and fry lmao
They were clearly subs
@@rtsbass7829All of them were vocal fry
@@ashupashu5559Literally every single one was vocal fry 💀
@@mrepix8287 oh come on that markiplier one sounded nothing like vocal fry. If you wanna hear vocal fry listen to tim storms.
I catch my friends talking in subharmonics all. the. time. But they think I have no idea what I'm talking about. They don't understand that subharmonics aren't hard to learn/do- they're hard to control
1:21 Well, that sound a spoken chest note!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
How do you do accidental 2nd subs😂 that's insane (1:58) I find it hard to do normal subs because I'm just learning, but still
Theres a ton of accidental polyphonics too! I notice it randomly in so many videos 😂
Really didn't think Bashar al Assad was a bass... 2:33
Just looking for what pitch something or someone sound was already funny to me. But looking for accident subharmonics and pitches is more funny. lol
I don't like "accidental subharmonics," honestly. I consider it vocal fry. But when subharmonics are done on purpose and they're well controlled without struggle, then they're pretty cool.
LMFAO markiplier held a C1 sub
crazy
Are sub harmonics and vocal fry the same thing? I feel like I'm missing something
probably going to make a vocalist angry here, but vocal fry is a part of subharmonics; you use a little bit of vocal fry and a chest note at the same time and because the sound waves interact with each other it messes with the frequency that is output and drops it an octave; this is grossly oversimplified and I recommend looking up videos specifically about subharmonics.
personally, I use chest notes, vocal fry, chest-fry (something that's just outside of your chest note range that you can still somewhat reach with very small vocal fry), and plenty of silly subharmonics and although they are very, very similar, the way you apply the vocal fry determines what notes you're hitting. I hope this helps!
makin a song with these guys noises
2:06 techno does that a lot XD
2:33 music?
do you watch youtube while actively searching for these
Subharmonics make me want to clear my throat
1:38
danggg mrbeast
Kenny Rogers! 🎸🎤
Actually I think Technoblade hit that note, or one near it, pretty often... I seem to remember hearing that "aaaAhhHhh" more than once in his videos.
0:47 1:49
I keep doing accidental subharmonics (actually only recently figured out what the fuck was going on with my voice) and I can't figure out how not to
Is there a way to get rid of these subharmonics? I use my voice to create AI generated voices and it seems these unwanted subharmonics makes the AI go crazy, I wish there was a way to avoid these subharmonics, the only solution I found so far is to raise the pitch of my voice but sometimes I need to use my talking/low register and these nasty subharmonics appears and make the AI algorithm fail.
Where is Virgil Mastercard?
How is this not just fry?
Good question.
Subharmonics are supported by chest voice unlike fry.
Subharmonics have a distinct pitch. Whereas fry is random noise that is either pitchless or not a stable pitch. That being said, I think a few of these might be just fry.
Tutorial on subs? Im still teying to learn I literally got it one time and couldnt do it again
What video of Markiplier is the C1 ?
Video named "FEEDVID" at about 21:10, fun fact: I have made the original clip of the markiplier clip that is seen in this video, that is why there is two C1 symbols.
@@Doctor_Polski thanks :)
@@gaffayu4395 Of course :)
Does creaky voice (vocal fry) mean that there will always be a subharmonic there too?
I don’t think Kenny Rogers is accidental as it happens pretty commonly in his songs
Whats the source for the markiplier clip?
My natural voice is around f2-d2 normal/ hyped convo...... But in recording I sound like the nice guy pitch, like when you try to sound nice u have that high pitch vibes, my normal time has that but the pitch is still between f2/d2 why I get an illustration that I sound high pitched
Bro that Mr. Beast one really surprised me-
My accidental sub is Bb0 And when I am on the phone, people tell me I have to repeat myself because my voice just simply drops so low when I am speaking naturally. I heard posted videos of my speaking voice, but you know, people call it fry, people are hateful so we are hateful so F 'em.
Can someone explain to me the difference between this and false chord distortion if there is any?
What's false chord distortion?
The false folds are a different muscle entirely
2:25 that touched my soul
That's all subharmonics are? I've been doing this since I was around 5 just messing with the extra vibrations in my voice
Coool
Want a reward?
I'm 15 and I still do those. I'm surprised it's all lead up to me learning subharmonics.
What video was that MrBeast subharmonic from?
this is mostly just vocal fry? i thought those were different things
Subharmonics is kind of supported fry
@@rtsbass7829 ok thanks, I am trying to understand what all these techniques are and its kind of confusing!
How do you accidentally go to G#0 tho
i think i found a jacksepticeye clip of him doing an F1 accidentally, ill try to find it for you if you see this comment.
He actually can do growl notes. I think he hit a Eb1
Wait this is subharmonics( even tho accidental)? I had no idea 🤣because that happens to me a lot when I speak and it doesn't make it any better with a thick southern accident too🤣🤣🤣
2:33 Bashar Al Assad?!
right? wtf i never heard him sing, it can't be him
Who is the man in the 2:47? Pls answer
Brendannotar
Rip techno
RIP legend...
how does this happen, it's like vocal fry but loud
In a sense, a subharmonic is vocal fry that is supported, tends to be louder, and is a drop in pitch exactly 1 octave from the principle tone. Once you get used to them happening, you can do them at-will. And, the deeper your voice is naturally, the deeper the subharmonics will be... it is a technique purposely used by a lot of bass singers to go insanely deep; much deeper than any average bass singer could do in their natural voice.
To do a subharmonic, you're singing a chest note but activating the false folds underneath which are vibrating at half the frequency, and that's how you make the subharmonic sound. its really easy to do by accident, especially when you're trained with them because they kinda force you to be relaxed while singing it, and your vocal chords are always gonna be relaxed when you're speaking unless you're speaking very loudly.
@@red5250, for subharmonics as we know, the false folds aren't engaged. Rather, the principle is produced in chest voice and allowed to slip into a light fry. For most of this, that causes one vocal fold to maintain the principle and for the other to slip into a perfect 5th. When combined, this causes the note we hear to be exactly one octave lower than the principle. There are other techniques, but they all involve the principle and octave higher and a perfect 5th being sang simultaneously..
@@johndeeregreen4592 i dont know that much physiology behind subs so i was just going off of what ive heard other people say
@@red5250, there are a couple different ways to achieve them. For me, I cannot do the false vocal cord version... but I know other people who do really well at them... doing the supported fry version, I can get down to G0 every single day or Eb0 on a very good day. I used to be a purist and only saw chest voice and chest-fry as real singing... that has since changed... if it sounds good, I don't care how it's done.
That cannot be MrBeast!
he has a pretty low voice naturally and subs are really easy to do by accident so it doesnt surprise me
A lot of those sound more like vocal fry vs. true subs. Any input on why you feel these are subs?
what is the song at 2:33?
Can someone tell me what Markiplier video that is?
Чувак, что за песня на 1:55?
The Gambler
ruclips.net/video/6WVTW2qTqrI/видео.html
The very beginning of this video
Thank you a lot, I appreciate this!
This is was A0
I noticed my english teacher does a lot of accidental subs, so i am counting how many he does each day of 2 weeks, and then i get an average amount of subs😆
PS: he does not know about it lol
bro so obsessed☠
Where's that markiplier clip from
FEEDVID 21:10
0:10 Bb3*
just vocal frying like this hardly counts as singing subharmonics
It's not just frying. Well, I understand, you haven't gotten much experience yet
I love how the RUclipsr just laughs at people they disagree with or think know less. Instead of you know, explaining or debating. Very humble :)
Is the texture of voice supposed to be rare? I can do it very easily
wdym texture
almost anyone can do subharmonics and its also really easy to do by accident
If you ever gonna do another one - I just found it in ruclips.net/video/rGeyYyAp_8c/видео.html at 7:03
Omg
lmao anything by the guy at 1:09 is not accidental. you're trying WAY too hard if you include stuff from him. that's one of his bread and butter skills. even talking he's gotta be aware of it.
Ordinary vocal fry, even when sustained is NOT subharmonic. Most of these clips are not an example of subharmonics.
0:41
2:25
Isn’t all this just groaning?
This is all vocal fry not subharmonics
I see you're a beginner at all this, that's fine
you can tell the difference very small though
You're wrong. Most, if not all of these are subharmonics.
Well, a subharmonic is vocal fry that is supported, focused, and uses breath control to maintain pitch. So, yeah, they are vocal fry... but a different type of vocal fry. It's very easy to tell a subharmonic from pure fry: you will hear both the principle pitch and subharmonic at the same time, which gives it a buzz quality and a distinct sound. Every single vocal note I heard here was a subharmonic.
all subs
wtf is that bs
accidental subharmonics
Accidental subharmonics
a subharmonic but accidental. These clips are just funny to find