Nightblue3 vs. 5 Iron Players (1vs5) to prove them wrong
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Chat was saying that if I had an iron account i'd be stuck there so I tried the 1 vs 5 to prove them wrong
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The fact that NB3 constantly expect them to make the logical play and keeps getting disappointed is really funny to me
@Karthusprid im ngl i been to bronze 5 and yes they also dont invade when they should don't ward right and don't really THINK as they play. so iron has got to be worse right? i can't imagine how below 1200 mmr you would even need to be to hit it but its for the worst of the worst players
@@Dark2NeS bronze 5 was a collection of everyone in iron. so it should be about the same.
but however, everoyone, who thinks that a player like NB could not get out of iron because of his team, has all the copium in the world
no, it's pretty realistic, there's a big skill gap between silver and gold. and people that are silver or below are either just not thinking or are really just trying to learn how to play the game @Karthusprid
@Karthusprid This whole video is fake. Wtf Teemo is doing on the top alone. He was not disturbed for 10 minutes. And het gets 2 turret platings for 12 minutes. Ge gets the 3rd plate in the 14th minute. Alone. Jeez, he can't kill minions or wtf ? He has mushrooms even. Don't need to be ranked to shot minions, and an average player is able to kill a wave in 10 seconds. Then he has 20 seconds to shot the turret. A good player kills kills wave in few seconds over lvl6. Iron or not he has to auto attack only, no knowledge needed against minions. Fake. And he disappears for minutes. Where was he going, what was he doing? Even iron players know that turret is the main target. Farming is pointless if no opponent on your lane. Very fake.
Another thing is, iron or not they have to know that if they stick together as 5 you wouldn't be able to stop them and they could destroy whole mid lane in few minutes. Only 2 of them could kill Rengar at the start, what if they are 5 ? Every death comes with a huge price, if 5 opponents are pushing a lane while he is waiting for resurrection. Fake. The so called "irons" do not push lanes, you see empty maps for long minutes. Wtf they are doing? No one knows. Fake staged video. The irons don't stick together, they walk alone at random places, give you the chance to 1 hit kill them, one by one in duel. This is the most fake thing.
@@telelaci2 HOLY FUCKING COPE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Man low elo players in League have to be the most delusional people in the world. #1 No, Iron players literally are drooling over their keyboards. They are the equivalent of giving your grandparent an iPad and asking them to play Fortnite. There is no logic or rationale to what Iron players do. They have 2 braincells and one is focused on the mouse and KB and the other is thinking about what they ate for lunch. I can't tell if you are defending Iron players and saying they are better than this video and that is why it is fake or if Iron players are even WORSE than this and that is why it is fake. Either way Iron players are literally the bottom of the barrel. You have to genuinely try to be so fucking bad to get to Iron. Bro Iron accounts literally sell for a shit ton of money for a reason. You actively have to try to get your account demoted to Iron. I had an account where I intentionally lost all my placements and got bronze 2. You literally cannot get to Iron without losing the overwhelming majority of your games.
Having witnessed many iron games I feel pretty confident that these people weren't actually hard-stuck iron-competence players...
i agree ofc people lied i mean they all have 70-80 cs at 15 min which isnt great but you see that even at emerald sometimes
@@2FadeMusic yeah but I mean bad CSing is one thing - I'm more so surprised that they bought and used control wards in non-stupid places 🤣
the jhin was pretty good. Lux probably actually is stuck in iron though
Idk low elo players can do some thing pretty good, normally the issue isn’t that they suck at everything, it’s that they suck at a couple parts of the game and that really holds them back. And the cs actually makes sense: that’s their cs if they don’t even have someone to prevent them from csing. Cs is probably was worse in a real game
@@azaldie So what's your point then lmao? Even if they aren't actual hardstuck Iron players that makes the point of this video 100x more true. Low elo players with use every excuse under the sun to excuse why they cant get out of low elo. They get bad teams every game, matchmaking sucks, smurfs every game, trolls, etc. Not a single person in low elo is stick there because of any of those reasons. If you are low elo and can't get out it is because YOU and YOU alone are making a million mistakes on the most fundamental aspects of the game. Low elo players think they need to shotcall and make flashy outplays to win games. You literally can afk farm - not interact with your laner for 15 minutes, get 7-8cs/m, die less than 4 times per game and climb to diamond. It is that simple.
You really made a point here, and it went kinda exactly how I thought it would, it's really hard when you're that outnumbered. However I think that you could've won with Yi instead of rengar
he really didn't bcz it to feel real hardstuck iron experience he would have to go 4 irons and him vs 5 plats bcz thats how stuck iron is. You are only one actually playing and your team is just better than your bcz u have hardstuck mmr and u get shitty teams that do nothing except feeding. btw im not in iron but i learned a lot about how ranking system works in lol and its broken. If u really want to climb and u have skill new account will do it always
@@krisusq2 ???
@@krisusq2 Cope.
@krisusq175 nah man this just isn't true. Lol. I haven't played since season 6. I got on, played 1 normal game, hopped into ranked. Played my placement and got silver 1 immediately. If you're in Iron, you belong there.
@@krisusq2 i played my 3 or 5 placement matches and got put into gold soo no, if youre put in iron its because you belong there. nothing else :pp
WOW this ghosting is crazy, imagine being a team of 5v1 and having to go this low.😂😂
The lux didn't seem to be ghosting so if that's true, i can respect that, but the Graves definitely is ghosting
Ghosting = streamsniping ?
@@mechanicalsilence1 ye
The lux was 1000% ghosting lmao. Throwing blind ults at baron when its almost dead. Walking to baron as hes on it. Throwing blind q's over walls. You are blind.@@grymns
@@grymns in the first 4 mins she walks directly at him when he is in the jungle then throws binds over the wall with jhin....
she was the first one i noticed to be ghosting 🤣
As an iron player myself I'd have chosen nasus and just infinitely stacked Qs
Nasus is literally the worst champion in the game to play if you're trying to learn, improve and climb.
@@TH-dg2mm no need for knowledge in iron, just split top and win at minute 25.
@@darkgrundi9543 How does playing the game wrong help you improve?
And I can tell you have zero clue what you're saying because Iron games don't last 25 minutes, they last 45 minutes.
@@TH-dg2mm I am sry to tell you that their is noway to improve if you are stuck in iron. Seriously you either have the mechanics of a guy with an actual disability in his hand, the lasthitting skill of a dog hitting your buttons, or the map awareness of a blind person. You just don't need to be remotely good to get to gold right now after they made Emerald rank. Literally the new ranked distribution made bronze players gold, cause they suddenly out of nowhere win 40 lp and lose 15. If you want to improve and you are stuck in Iron, learn lasthitting, learn champion combos and then afk split top until you are in Gold and start to play actual league there. You cannot by design make any macro decisions in Iron cause NOBODY on your team will follow it, or even spam ping you for rotating to a different lane once. (they do that even in Dia sometimes btw). Look i was never in my life iron, cause it didn't exist when i started playing, however i was in bronze 4 once when the ranked reset was so bugged that even challenger players started in silver for some reason (i think it was season 8 not sure) and i got out of bronze in 20 games. Another 30 and i was in Gold and stopped playing then, cause i was terrible in season 8 and enjoyed playing normals with friends way more than an arbitrary ranked symbol on your profile. Now i sit in Dia even tho i still play most of my games as Normals. Obviously i got better, but elo is inflating massively, especially right now, cause emerald made getting to gold a cake walk for silver and high bronze.
@@darkgrundi9543i love how someone who was never in iron talks like he is an expert in it
in iron mid,jg and top are the smurf lanes
there is a 30%-60% chance you will run into a smurf account if you play those roles
you really underestimate iron beacuse you don't seem to understand how mmr works,im a suport main so my chances of getting out of iron are really small unless im faker and learn how to 1v9 with alistar
"I think this one's harder no"
Nightblue underestimates the ability of iron players to feed.
And no, I'm not saying being hardstuck iron is a real thing. It's absolutely a krill issue.
They absorb pressure and wave. No matter what a true 1v5 will be harder than a 4 feeder + 1 human vs 5
@@miniflint2423 ur trippin
@miniflint2423 then they die and the pressure and wave mean nothing as they continue taking the lane. If they're feeding the chance of them doing something of value isn't high
good vid and quite entertaining, however to make it more realistic you should add some AI to your team. that way bounty objectives are harder to get and the enemy team can get fed/kills more realistically to a real game. You also would not have to catch every wave potentially then.
But, being stuck iron is not a real thing
@@mod6870 depends how many games you play, if you duo queue, the champion you play...
@@mod6870i had a 220 games iron 3 27% winrate toplaner on my new account in placements 😅
This must be really scary for them. :D There's 5 of them, but then there's this apex predator that's way better than each of them and you never know where he's coming from :D
I think it was pretty clear not all of these players are actual irons. Most of them had like 20 games (alt accounts). Some look about silverish. Not saying the skill gap is huge but, knowledge is everything in League. These players understood the game better than many irons. I am only plat1 but I have a friend in Iron who I have played with a few times for fun. On top of clearly sniping. They need all the help they can get I don't blame them. Was fun to watch.
nah completely free lanes and it took them over 16minutes to hit 80 cs and not even all of em managed to do that. they may have certain aspects of their gameplay thats silver but overall theyre iron.
MMR matters a lot
beacuse i have been playing league for a long time and never really cared about winning in ranked(i was playing bard even tho i wasn't good at him xd),nowdays all my iron games have atleast 3 smurf accounts on them
shoutout to that 70% winrate katarina who despite iron smurfing was actually a really nice person :3
I mean even if that were true that only makes the point of this video even MORE true not less. If he's winning 1v5 vs silvers who are somewhat better than Iron (it's all the same shit, let's not be delusional) then literally anyone can. If you practice the fundamentals of league and stop blaming your team, the matchmaking, your role, trolls, etc. you will climb. It is literally that simple. I used to be hardstuck gold for 2 years when I first started playing. I got frustrated and started watching educational league content (high elo replays) and focused on farming well (averaging 7-8 cs/m) and dying 4 or less times on average per game and I got to plat (which is now emerald) playing mid. I've since swapped to ADC. It took me 600~ games to get to plat/emerald for the first time and 75% of those games were before I started taking the game more seriously and stopped making excuses every game and worrying about the shit I cannot control and focused on the things I have control over.
As a jungler in high silver almost gold, i learned a lot from this video. This I don't usually pay attention too, because I have the idea that my team will handle it, e.g. I would go for a drake instead of backing to defend super minions when they are around inhib tower, because I think I have enough time, only to realize I almost lose a tower because my team is dying elsewhere, and then my back timing gets fucked. Another thing is back timing when clearing and how to approach the lanes, both ganking and defeding wise. I know in real games you have teammates to back you up on ganks or on drake calls, but it's a little macro decisions that I didn't fully realize till I wathced this
in silver or gold i would NOT count on my team tbh... better to only go for save plays if you want to climb and get to a point where you can snowball..
@@roastedtoast7388 I wouldn't count on the team but at the same time, a lot of plays are safe just because of how badly people play them in that elo, any snowball champ is busted for anything below diamond/emerald. Bcs people never punish you when you are at your weakest and have no idea how to play around you.
yeh, im hard stuck silver. and my best games are when i just 100% ignore my team and play like nasus.
if i am winning my 1v2, and my team is losing the 4v3, me being there wont magically make my team better at the game and not feed and die.
so catching waves is really the easiest way to climb. let your team play the game, just freeze the most pushed lane and get 3x the gold of everybody playing aaram.
There's no way these aren't paid actors lol. How do they not just group or push both top and bot?
Cuz they're iron.
iron players are litelary braindead
@@codealias3234even irons know the low elo rule:after 13 mins everyone goes mid and plays aram
clearly not real iron players
How humble of NB to say "Former Chall" bro ur goated dont undervalue yourself. Actual LoL legend, and I don't say that lightly.
Writing this in the beginning so I don't get hate, thanks for coming to my TEDTalk, also this is not complaining about the content because it was very entertaining and I hope he does this more often, just referring to the point before the game about hopping out of Iron. Obviously it's different if you're Challenger/GM/Master
This is nowhere near the Iron experience, for 1, the Lux has some brain and so does Teemo. In my opinion, someone level 400 at this game is not an Iron ELO player, I'm a Plat to Emerald Zed OTP who doesn't play more than 20 ranked games a season and I have barely any macro even though I've played since season 7 because I play very little (lvl 200) but there are things I still naturally know cause I've played so much, even if I'm not paying attention (which is most games because I just lock in Zed and go Brrr) I find it hard to believe that someone with double the levels wouldn't be the same, it takes a level of braindead beyond comprehension to not absorb anything after 4k games of league. Also, it makes a big difference when you have 4 other monkies feeding the other team tbh. I tried to dabble in Iron and stomp with Zed to see if I could climb out or whatever and in too many games was the score 10-2 by 8 minutes because Iron players can't grasp the concept of "stay back, play safe".
Im more confused how the 5 didnt pick up on a single strat for a 1v5. Idk if it was talked about or not but something like a Malz mid and Rammus Top (Really any super hard CCs) and Trist/Ziggs bot (or any tower destroying monsters) would make this challenge kinda pointless. There are some champs that excel SO hard in the 1v1 that it makes 1v5 near impossible no matter how fed you are. Like the Donos said, also grouping is pretty strong in these 1v5 scenarios. That and Hullbreaker+Demo alone (if theyre deciding not to group) would ruin towers.
Them not having a tower by the 9-10 minute mark and deciding not to invade (maybe its an honor thing?) just baffled me. I really feel like they could have just won in champ select. Insane challenge and a good try.
Why would iron players think of a strat like that or have any thought process, then they wouldn’t be iron.
Well teemo and jhin had a plan to trap up the field so they can constantly keep tabs on him. Just they're still iron for a reason. Teemo kept asking why no one wanted to group. It's cause they're iron. Teemo did feel like he was at least silver though. He even just ulted a bunch while NB was taking baron at the end instead of walking up to auto him and be in range to die. Graves I thought too, but looks like people are saying he was ghosting stream.
You don't even need to fight him. Just pick 2 champs that take towers fast for top and bot (Yorick, Trynd, Jax, Trundle, etc). Then get a easy mage with safe wave clear like Ziggs, Malz, Anvia to just match the Challenger play but not fight them. They just need to wave clear. Then get two jgs because the Challenger wont be able to defend towers and their jg. You want jgs that can take objs and help with towers like Yi, Trundle, Noc, Udyr, Bel, Xin, WW, etc.
Then just ignore the challenger player. Push lanes where he isn't. You can push 3 lanes while he can only push 1.
I swear these 5 are paid actors, half the time they weren't even farming the wave
the point was to simulate an average solo ranked game
My teammate was +11/-30 3 days ago. They're +/-25 right now - you can fix mmr pretty easily if you just improve and start winning
ye gl mr.there is no elo hell. I have never seen such bs before 50% of the games somebody in my team thinks running down into my tower feeding my lane is a good idea the other 50% are people who will have the same amount of deaths as minutes ingame i would climb if my teammates wouldnt be just straight up inting or atleast not dying every 2nd minute. They dont respond to calls because they will feel personally offended and troll you the rest of the game. You cannot even tell them what to do cuz they will understand but they do not care. My thought is if we would let dogs play league everybody would have a better experience because dogs can learn
honestly not having 4 teammates is a HUGE advantage in iron. coming from a d2 player i have a much easier time 1v5ing 5 irons than i do 5v5ing 5 irons with 4 irons on my team. even if they are iron, they can still lock braindead champs and get hard fed by the team to the point where its out of your control entirely. when its a 1v5 you have all the control. the game is won or lost by your decisions. i can live with that. i cant live as easy with the fact 80% of my losses are from teammates hard inting the enemy into a 10/0 lead at 5mins.
8:17-Lol,the TOWERS got a kill before you did!
People are saying inting teammates is harder. That might be true for one teammate but I would rather have 4 inting teammates than no teammates at all.
yeah exactly. they can be bad but if they play even as an iron would you win the game. You only need wave clear from them
yeah, until a 15/0 yone decides to roam from top and ace your whole team at 10 minutes...
When facing noobs, you actually want to slow push waves into them then roam and kill. If you're 1v5 you can't afford to crash even waves. You need the time that pushing waves give you. You can outplay them and kill them all in fights, so an extra couple CS (they won't get half of them) won't really hurt that much in comparison to being shoved in the whole time.
Well, the fact that it took 40 minutes for 5 players to defeat 1 just proves your point even though you didn't win lmao
1v5 vs iron players is just a lunch bananza. i'd personally have so much fun 1v5 iron players lol
Dude there is no way these guys are all real iron players, maybe some but not all. They built Anathema's Chains against him like there is no way an Iron player would do that. Also the way some of them played the game. Irons are pure "for fun and don't wanna have a headache learning anything about the game" type of people.
I mean. 5 squishy laners vs an assassin? If you are ever playing a 1v5 against a challenge. Pick CC. Locked the challenger player down.
I'd love to see a 1v5 on lee sin
that's gonna look so cool
It's actually crazy how low level of understanding Iron players have.
If they just stayed in lane the whole game and did nothing else, this is just over immediately.
Why are they not on the map for SO much of the game, that's unreal lmfao
I think the challenge would have been more realistic if the game was 9 bronces/iron and you, because the point was proving you can not climb from those ranks if your teammates hold you back (which is obviously not true if you’re a challenger)
is just that iron need to stop blaming something else than themself if they would learn the basic fundementals they would at least be gold/plat
@@w0uffv379 Even if you have the fundamentals down (good CS rate, lane handling) its hard when your other lanes are each x/0/0 after 3 minutes. (where x usually is >3). A 1v5 isn't really a good representation what the issue with iron really is.
@@arcadebit1551 But that's not every game and if you are top or mid you can easily get MUCH more fed and dominate the map
@@arcadebit1551 you're beyond delusional if you think you can't climb out of iron cause of your teammates
@@Bankai90 I would say it depends. If your personal skill level ist higher bronze or lower silver, it is tough. If you are a gold - plat player, sure you can wipe the floor with your lane and carry the games.
I don't believe a challenger would be hard-stuck iron. The point you're failing to realize and this is 100% confirmed, is that riot has implemented a system in which it takes lots and lots of games and time to climb, which most of the original player base does not have. I've been playing since Season 1. I've gotten to Plat several times. I stopped playing for a few years and came back to the game. Now I'm in Gold 3 and playing in Diamond 4 to Plat 2 games literally every single game. The game recognizes that I'm not where I should be, but refuses to let me advance at a faster rate. I'd suspect this is true for quite a lot of people. I don't have the time to play hundreds of games every season. I can play maybe one hundred, or two hundred at most. That shouldn't mean you're limited at the amount of games you're able to play. The system needs to be overhauled, or they need to bring back a true ELO system. No one should be forced to play up, sometimes DRAMATICALLY up, in order to slightly advance. You either belong to that rank, or you don't. The fact that the visual ranking system doesn't display that is a sham. I'm playing already what I believe to be my actual elo, yet I'm not even remotely visually close. If I have to play there, and I'm basically a 54% WR while there, why would the system not just place me in that elo? Sure it's just visually and it means nothing, but there are extra rewards I'm not getting, and it just feels bad to start a game and your team already has given up by just playing with someone that doesn't have a visual indicator.
In Overwatch I came back and got back to Master Tier within 30 games on a fresh account. League doesn't even make an attempt. Getting 30LP instead of 25LP is not acceleration. Especially when advancing comes down to a series of games that don't really attribute much to how you should actually be placed.
I do not at all think I'm Challenger. I have several friends who are challenger and I realize that while they are mechanically on par with me, their game knowledge just completely blows me out of the water.
When Teemo is the least iron out of everyone lmao. Maxed Shrooms and was calling them to group.
Now in actual Iron you have to do this exact thing while also giving each of your opponents 1-2 free kills every 25 seconds.
Haven't seen the depths of iron myself but I've played on teams that had some iron players show up for tryouts.
It's unreal how little they understand about the game typically.
The irony of you saying "now have your teammates in Iron giving your opponents 1-2 kills every 25 seconds" and not realizing that also means the enemy team is just as likely to have people feeding that you can take advantage of and thus climb using their bad players as free gold and exp.
Being stuck is real, being hard stuck is real, being hard stuck forever is not real.
You can be stuck for a short time, you can be hard stuck for much longer time, like me in Gold for 3 years...
But then if you get actually better and get yourself a duo, if you have a hard time with your teammates, there is no way you will be hard stuck forever.
I went from Gold to Plat and I play against Diamond 2 players. 8 divisions higher than me. Diamond next year, baby! No time this year :D
I once won vs 5 newbies with 4 bot allies. I was old eve and went 45/12/23 or smth. The bots were useful for holding lanes down and baiting the players to push so I could gank them.
liar
@@m1n3h4ck Why's that hard to believe? Seems completely possible. One of my wildest games was a 1v5 in a real game with Akali soon after her rework when she was busted. One teammate left, caused the other to leave which caused the other to leave so the last guy left as well. I won that game which goes to show just how busted reworked akali was before her 200 nerfs. This guy did it with 4 bots on his side, 100% possible.
@@m1n3h4ck I did the same back when I used to play. Was years ago when the average skill level of players was WAY lower (these days, even low elo players know more than what most high elo players knew back then). The skill gap to move from low and high elo is simply far lower than it used to be, which is why the lowest elos are such coinflips. In Iron, you get players who would have made it to diamond back in season 3/4 stuck in the same tier as people who didn't even belong in bronze back then.
@@xdrago1051 u cant afford to die 12 times and bots rarely kill eachother so how would he have 20+ assists
Cool stuff! :)@@xdrago1051
i guess this proves it really is impossible to get out of iron
like literally. The enemy team proves how bad irons are and how hard it is to carry them
xdd
@@Equetra_ the copium
And now Imagine this players actually played champs for this. Bruiser Shyvanna (with Soul later and being able to 1v1 you), Nasus Toplane, a Renata Support with a Kog Maw (who builds Frozen hearth+Randuin and still oneshots late) and a midlane CC Mage and Hyperscaler (Lissandra, Syndra, Aurelion, Kassadin, Sylas) and all of them build Crown and Ninja Tabies. Much Fun.
It was a fun game but I dont see the point. I had games where I had all top Towers min 18 and These Guys didnt even had all tier 2. Comp was so bad with slow single CC Skillshots and squishies all of them.
There are always 5 iron players ready for NB to invite them to play with him just to prove a point.
If there were 4 iron players on NB's team just to take up lane space, this wouldn't have even been close. He'd have 40+ kills.
But honestly, just playing Hecarim or Fiddles etc might have been enough to run through the entire team.
thats because the enemy team had noob iron players on the team, there are lots of hardstuck iron players with account levels of up to even 300 and they are either sitting there on purpose or they simply cant get out because of mmr and getting matched with a bad team
just because you're high level, doesn't mean you're any better than lower level players. I know a guy who's hardstuck silver 4 at lvl 800, while my dumb ass cousin is around the same level with about 50 games per year@@Rescarf
edit: for example, Yone is lvl 419 and was worse than lvl 59 Jhin
@@dislexyc thats because league mmr is autistic, I have a few accounts and on my main Account when I first started playing I was dropped into silver 2 on my practice account into bronze 3 even though I played better on it overall, because your initial mmr counts a lot, so what happend was your cousin got a nice mmr early and got dropped into silver. Also this is just hard cope for you, he lost against actual bots without deadweight on his team, he proved nothing lol
@@Rescarf Hardstuck detected...
idek who's coping here. those 5 were far from bots I'd say.
-Teemo shroom placement (the best asset on their team btw)
-Them effectively camping his jg a couple of times (while prob a ghosting thing, still it required some basic thinking skills)
-Trapping him at the baron pit and closing the game
There was an evident resistance from them, so you cannot say that him not beating them was in any way a humiliating thing. He literally played Rengar for balance, where he could just pick hullbreaker Yi and stomp.
What's more, is that he pretty much proved a point. He took baron and elder all alone, deflected all the pressure from sidelanes and kept his CS well over 10 per min while playing conciously enough to die only 4 times in a 35+ min game constantly being pressed by 5 players.
If he had any kind of a team, even a trash one, he would've simply destroyed the enemy team while his teammates could absorb the pressure and be useful doing literally whatever.
This wraps it up with 2 conclusions:
1. Iron players are iron for a reason. Being stripped off of 2 biggest objectives and dying 23 times in total when playing a 5v1 is self-explanatory as of why these iron level players are in... iron
2. If you are good enough, you will climb out of iron. Despite these players' poor gameplay, they still managed to win. Not because these iron players are secretly challengers cursed by mmr, but because league is a game, in which teams thrive - not just individual players. In league you can be a 15-0 full-built assassin but get chain cc'ed for 10 seconds and still get whooped if you're all alone. If you are as good as him, or simply better than iron, however contrary to him you're blessed with 4 teammates that can at least push the waves for you, you're gonna climb.
@@nickuu8077 cope harder please, he went up against the worst iron team on his region and still lost, not only did he NOT prove a point, the fact that every single one of you inbreds think that he couldve won with hullbreaker yi is baffling. And if he actually had irons on his team too, yeah he would have a chance to win but itd be a coinflip of which team feeds the less. You should just drop this argument, he played this game to win and prove that iron is easy, then he lost and failed to prove anything.
Free farming the entire map sure helps :D They could have won the game with baron at 15 minutes
in 5v5 iron your teammates feed enemy like crazy causing opportunities that should not be there
in 1v5 its not the same experience as you are controlling the enemy economy, they are only getting plates and CS compared to getting an extra 2-3k worth of kill gold
im a D3 peak and tried to help someone in iron and it was hard af trying vs enemies that had an item advantage because of this
True, but these youtubers think that's not the case
I don’t care how fed an iron player is they shouldn’t be able to beat a d3 player. Highly doubt you’re d3. And plates and CS are worth just as much as kills and can be worth even more if the same person is constantly feeding . Not to mention objectives.. bruh ain’t no way you’re d3 lol jus be yourself bro 😂
@@orsteezy7050 go try it yourself, buy a $2 smurf and queue with an iron 1 game and you will see
bruh whatever
@@orsteezy7050 Actually.. I can give an Iron player a huge lead and they could actually win against a diamond with it. It depends on the lead though. Skill is a stat we don't have the exact measurement of skill but it can be beaten by just other stats such as defense and damage. If you are level 18 as an iron player you would still win if your enemy was the best player in the world but was level 1. So somewhere down the road skill gets beaten by stats and a lead. Especially if that level 18 was like senna and the level 1 was anyone that isn't senna.
It's more a factor of your team innocently, but actively, shutting you out of a snowball by any means necessary.
Honestly, it's a relief to not have friendly death announcements all the time. The mentality is usually, I know I can do this if someone on my team doesn't "F" it up too badly.
1v5 doesn't actually prove any point, since in 5v5 you have bad players giving kills away every minute. Adding to that, there's the fact that a bunch of players barely know how to farm. So besides they're giving kills to the opponent, they're making your life even more miserable for losing farm that could make YOU stronger. So yes, 5v5 gets you stuck in iron / bronze for almost forever.
The Problem with 1vs5 iron is you don't have 4 other team mates feeding the ever living shit out of the other team.
That teemo was spot on with his Flash. Interesting
Now imagine doing this but the enemy team is also ahead because the rest of yours lost their lanes
you didn't really prove anything with this video. try actually going onto an account thats 100 games deep 17 lp gains 29 lp losses in silver or gold or platinum and you won't climb. the ranked system is giga fixed and riot has designed it that way.
these iron players are delusional, 1v5 is leagues harder than 99% of iron games. His game was harder because they stream snipe the whole game as well.
I know right xDD, it's so funny how they are not even trolling with those comments. Iron players that aren't trolling are literally people with 80 IQ or players that have just leveled up to 30 and have a few first games out in iron. At most 50 games that you will have to stay in iron but i don't know how that's possible when I've literally tried to lose on purpose and i win instead, gaining like 40 lp.
The game just wants you out of iron fr
Also, there is literally an instant promotion with no requirement to win 3 games in a row to climb up
easier to win when you don't have 4 cannon minions that randomly give 300 gold instead of the usual amount
the thing is he would never get all the gold from the minion waves if his iron team were there feeding
If you have an account hard stuck iron you have to win more then +60% of your games to get out of it. The system sling shots players around when they first make it but 400 games later the mmr will try and force people to stay at an elo by flat out making them lose more lp then what they win meaning being +53% win rate is not good enough to slowly climb and often you will flat out fall and lose ranking because the mmr system punishes older accounts. objectively.
bry really said a "1v5 to prove em wrong" with basically no rules would be truly easy ☠☠☠☠☠☠☠
should have had solo tanks in each lane that utilize armor well like malph, amumu and rammus, plus a jungle duo with a hypercarry and a support with double smite taking all camps. would have been a joke of a game.
@@MFWb00bi3s So literally don't pick Iron/low elo players for this example that it is beyond easy to climb out of low elo? Iron players wouldn't be picking srtong comps and even if they do they would malphite ult 2 inches in front of them by accident because they were trying to hit their F key to flash and missclicked. You really don't understand just how hilariously bad at the game Iron is.
@CataclysmicSC2 GoodLuckHaveFun, NA. That's me, iron last season. If I can theory craft that comp in about 30 seconds, I'm sure 4 more of me could implement it well enough to win.
You have to play with 4 bots against 5 iron players, that's the only way to replicate the experience
Not having a team at all seems better to me than having your team feed the enemy samira 20 kills before 12 minutes
nah, as can be seen here, he was struggling to stop the minions from killing his nexus. Even if they do feed, at least they can help deal with waves as well as get your opponent to waste stuff on them. A fed iron player really doesn't mean much.
Having a team alleviates map pressure, literal 1v5 simply isn't possible
fed iron player = free shutdown for the chall player
@@danieltsiu7383 A fed iron player is literally just as strong as an 0/10 iron player. It doesn't matter if the enemy team gets fed when you are low elo because they 10/10 times WILL throw their leads making objectively awful plays and throw the game away. Every. Single. Time.
Some champs could do this. Maybe a kat or yi. Irons could also win in champ select with a lot of hard cc like leona or splitpushers like yorick or trynd
does this prove that nb3 is iron level ?
Rengar got the 1v5 treatment. Duskblade is nice but you literally gotta afk and wait for cd, can't take objectives either even offstream, they have infinite wards.
Anyone that unironically thinks 1v5 is easier than 1v9 lacks two brain cells to rub together
It is easier. It's like playing 1 vs 5, but the ennemies even get gold from your teammates, so you can't even 1v1 anyone on paper.
Being 1v5 against Iron is probably almost as good as being 5v5 with 4 irons as mates because... At least when you're alone, your mates don't give golds to the ennemies for absolutely no reason.
No no no no no, you gotta play with 4 Iron players against 5 ~gold players and THEN carry 1v9. That's the real problem.
I'm pretty sure that this would be impossible with teammates/bot teammates, because monster hunter isn't applied when you're solo. The 4-6 level advantage is so massive.
I need someone doing this with Fiddlestick for a true horror game experience.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, i see so much delulu in comms. CANT BE MORE FUNNY HAHAHAHAHAHA
it would be more fair if he played alongside 4 "hard" bots, that would be the real iron experience
even iron players can destroy hard bots and snowball him... this bots is stupid
That's the point, they would feed off of the bots...@@anbedaton
Love how they chase for dumb plays instead of just going drake or pushing free waves, like if the whole ennemy team is on one side don't follow them pressure the other side
Now you need to have a team of four iron players and go against a team of 5 silver or gold players, prove that shit teammates wont make you hard stuck if you are good enough
bro common, that is not even iron players, that's bots. U can't even 1v3 iron players
next time maybe try pro+4 beginner bots vs 5 irons so that the iron players can get fed off of the beginner bots
3:15 "fking teammates, i can never get out of iron like this, fk this game"
If I were to do this challenge (not that I would succeed) I'd pick Tryndamere. He pushes and farms quickly, scales well and has great sustain and mobility throughout the game. Also can ult for 1v5
😂 our favorite monkey dang that was a close match 😅
How can he be in challenger and ask where the mini-krug is, even though he clearly killed it a few minutes earlier, before attacking Lux and dying.
I think if you hadn't pick rengar or they didn't had a teemo, you probably would win. The mooshroms made a big diference in the game
12:46 why were they half hp? xD
The problem is not you against 5, but your team hahah. If all of your teammates feed, i dont think its winnable
if you had 4 losing teammates, they would just hit the FF button and you cant do anything about it hahaha
I will sound like an Iron player here.
but the big different between 1v5 and a "normal" iron/bronze/silver game is you often have 1 player on "either" side getting fed like crazy.
You didn't feed in this video ,so noone got over fed.
but, give that grave 14 kills by minutes 16, and you would have lost faster , if let's say you had that LUX on your team as a 2v5.
But no, I don't believe in elo hell, I'm just saying, it is "harder" than we think
So I've tried playing ranked a few times and end up getting flamed so bad in my placements that I never finish them. I was always unsure of where I would actually rank, but watching these iron players I'm pretty confident I'm at least a bronze.
You can also fully mute (chat and pings) anyone if they are ruining your game :)
Getting to iron is actually very difficult. Having an iron 4 account is equivalent to having a challenger account.
Honestly if I were you I would type "/mute all" every game at the start of each match. I'm sorry it ruined your experience. Personally I don't care about the flame, it's the distraction of chat popping up and the pings that is why I do /mute all.
@@NinthSettler It's not difficult. Give me an Iron account and within the day I'll be out of Iron.
Picking rengar was the stupidest choice for a 1v5 possibly ever
love the excuses immediately after losing
Nb3 looks so much older
But his voice hasnt changed one bit
Yea he deserves to lose that one, he’s so cocky nowadays. I’m not saying that I could do better but he’s not good enough, and this is my opinion anyways so take it for a grain of salt
38 minutes and he DID NOT prove them wrong
Doing Baron in vision prolly wasn't the best idea. So I guess this proves that people can't 1v5, let alone 1v9.
He doesn’t understand 1v5 is easy. You don’t have to play against fed bot laners and Jglrs. Bro didn’t even take a second to understand.
To win any 1 v 5 game everyone just build sunfire to push waves, hullbreaker and demolish to get plates and anathema chains to survive the disengage and avoid all fights.
Boring to watch sure but they won't win in a fight so don't fight and keep pushing.
So, because I don't see it said so far;
Imagine fixing a game (as real as wrestling), then going "BuT wHy Is IrOn So BaD HURRHURR"
Like, it can't just be me right?
I dont know why you picked rengar... In a 1v5 you need a champion who can clear a fight by itself, has sustain, and also have wave clear... Rengar has none of that
The biggest problem is that even in a bit higher elo than iron, I got this season from gold to emerald, in some games they just make it unwinnable by constantly trading kills, lets say toplane, my toplaner has 6/5/0 and 70 cs in 17 minutes but their toplaner has 5/6/0 with 150 cs, they both have gold for kills and he has 150cs and then you have to catch up to his gold to be able to be stronger than him, in some games they just decide that why would I clear my waves if I can just play aram or for no reason go into enemy jungle and waste my time there, people litterally hate to farm and push their lanes before moving their ass from the lane, the worst part about games like this is the preassure because even tho you are mega fed, you are the one that has to win the teamfights and get objectives, but how can you do that when your team constantly groups for no reason and you have to be the one to always back and defend a tower or nexus since no one else will, and the moment you recall they all die xD
iron is different than gold tho. Iron should never be a problem for everyone gold+ to climb out of. In gold there are some good players who barrely play comp etc or just tilt too easily or whatever. Iron is just bad.
@@th9667 Iron yes, bronze a bit yes too, but you have to be at least 2 ranks higher than that elo to climb out of it, because if you you manage to carry most of the games its a role of the dice of how many apes you get, because realistically you cannot solo carry a game where enemy team is overfed and it just happens that most of them play decent and your team is toxic and afk or just ints and goes alone, it creates impossible scenarios, and that is if you are that much better than that elo, imagine being a bit better than the elo you are in, there is no way in hell you climb out of it, if you have a hardstuck gold 4 account with mmr of silver 1 or gold 4, if you dont play like at least a diamond 4 you will not climb out of it unless you have the luck of the draw and get good teammates that can actually carry alongside you.
1v5 is indeed possible it's just rengar is a bit hard for that he can't enter if he doesn't have ult. i think it's highly possible if it's character like yasuo, irelia, riven.
In real iron the 4 fellow players are feeding the enemy too + baiting you into fights that will kill you.
I wonder what will happen if the game changes to nb3 + 4 intermediate bot vs 5 irons. The bot will hardly interfere with nb3 farming but they will release some minion pressure. But in the meanwhile, the bots will give iron players more gold.
Now make REAL challenge. Play standard 5v5 but your whole team feeds mercilessly
And also to add to that, team surrenders at 15
Respect for not going full sweat mode on that one.
I never understood why the top in these types of videos never go something like trundle hullbreaker anathema’s exhaust and then just splitpush lol
(Probably because they’re in iron 😅)
"Elo hell" believers are the same people who think they're only poor because billionaires exist. Simple fact is they can't self-criticize.
Even harder in Silver to climb, because the enemy team would know how to end the game faster. This is silly. My money was on Iron team from the beginning.
this wasnt even the most anoying team to face, stuff like malz mid, malph top, amumu + mf bot, sej jg would make you not be able to play
Great video bro! I love the 0 spoilers, made it super exciting, gonna have to watch the 2nd video.
bro thinks doing a 1v5 custom is the same as having your teammates int for 45 minutes straight while you try your a** off
Axium and even DB are pretty questionable here. You need to build to 1v5 which requires sustain and sustained damage not burst. Legit BotRK Rengar would almost always be better here and crit instead of lethality. Rengar is also super int here since they can force him to play without bushes by just playing the game or running it down mid.
Also NB3 keeps spreading bs about BotRK. The item has nothing to do with shredding tanks. It is extremely good against squishies, especially the slow. There is a reason Yi and every on hit champ have rushed it for years regardless of team comp.
play vs Yorick, Shyvana, Fiora, Belveth, Nasus