张继科 Zhang Jike at his prime!
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- Опубликовано: 2 апр 2021
- 张继科 Zhang Jike at his prime!
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This is way past his prime, he is so much stronger on 2011-2014 but he is on good form here.
Actually this is his prime with the new of plastic ball because back in 2011 it was celluloid ball.
Even in 2016 he was still the best of the world. I still don’t believe Ma Long was able to grab the olympic gold medal from him. He must have to give it to Ma Long.
@Harvey Powell did you know in China there is a tradition that someone has to give up a opportunity of winning only because the management want them to?
@@xkxmud5136 there WAS this tradition decades ago, and a few good players left the national team in 20th century because of this. Now this tradition no longer exists. Zhang Jike is a legend, but it's also true that his style has greater chance of getting injuries. In 2016 he had to get pain killers in order to complete the Olympics games. If you look at his career, he hardly got any medals after 2016. His style was really exploiting his health for victory.
Zjk in 2016 is not really good compared to years before but still managed to get into final with Ml in Olympics . Lol. He not even trying.
If not for his injury I really think he could have been the best of all time. He always played so relaxed, he could flip almost anything and was great at playing down the line. I do think ma long is a little better but I always enjoyed watching zhang jike more. He has swagger haha
To me ma long has more solid techinque execution in his shots, but zjk definitely more artistic than him..
@Lonestar Papa well i agree that playstyle of ma long is more better to compete with almost all styles of play..betting on him to win a game is more better decision..but for someone who enjoys the artistic view of the game, ma long is more like a textbook perfection..so its not wrong though to assume that way..i mean every player has their own unique ways indeed..people's preference though..
@@adihakim4663 Most people over the years have actually said the opposite - virtually all of ZJK’s techniques are textbook, whereas Ma Long incorporates more artistry into his game with his chop blocks and magical forehand versatility. ZJK’s my favourite player of all time and I wish he got to stay healthy and played many more matches against ML
@@michaelwang6552 yeah..i like zjk too..but i think the textbook perfection if referring to zjk, i think not all of his attributes are like that, but one thing for sure i can say is that his backhand flick has become the new textbook perfection when rarely players back in the days do that, now we can see quite more often the technique..idk, i might be wrong though..for ma long, he's mainly the new textbook perfection with the plastic ball, and his game flow, also his superb ball judgement, which kinda set as more high standard in the modern game today, and more effective..which is why i refer Ma long to more of textbook perfection..but i might be wrong though..cause so far i only from my pov as the sports enthusiast...not much from the pov of pro players...but hypothetically speaking seeing their way of play..even you and i know how different it is back then, even before their generation, the game play is totally different, more looping instead of counter drive..and there were more blockers and cutters too, compare to now..well at least on pro lvel only if we want to see about it..doesn't apply much for semi pro and below..where there are more variations of playstyles..
It was sad to see ZJK go. I really liked his playing style and he was fun to watch.
He's the best in the biggest moments. He actually has the tendency to "fall asleep" in the beginning of matches regardless of the significance. Somehow he always wake up when it counts.
Exactly. He starts the game slowly and awake at the end
Man, ZJK's backhand was just something special wasn't it?
@Lonestar Papa for what its worth, i think fzd’s backhand is a worthy successor.
I love the way that ZJK never rushed the point. His shots weren't the fastest but his spin and placement was amazing. His footwork looks effortless.
His style is like that. He always starts slowly but at the end he often win like 4-3 or 4-2
You know, among the CNT, his spin rotation is one of the strongest, more spinny than ma long in fact, which is why in the long run, resulting to his prone injury..
The secret was his movement. Huge legs. His head is so still with every shot. He seems to float. Too many injuries.
Yes. Exactly
Look at the forehand attack! Absolutely a sledgehammer!
Yeah..Dude gave us and is still delivering great ping pong skills
For me best chinese player ever.
2011-2013 ZJK will forever be the highest peak of a TT player for me. The man was special. He changed the game.
ZJK prime was at WTTC 2011 in rotterdam. Have never seen anything like that.
thank you coach
I love Zang Jike Style
strong and manly
Thank you Dr. he has a very strong mental strength
Out of all the best Chinese players I feel that Zhang is the most unnecessarily forgotten
@Lonestar Papa yeah I know I should say in the west
I think only people that were too young for the early 2010s era don't know how stupidly good he was. For us mortals that watched him, his peak might never be matched by someone else.
I miss zjk, my favorite player ever
Fantastic! Why he doesn`t play now?
notice the gesture he made at 0:06. He's already got an injured hip at that time, so it's not his prime.
2016 is not his prime, even he has pain in back but still very strong
0:58 my favorite serve
People should check out Ping Pong in iqiyi
Although the actors don’t really know how to play, it’s still good. They even showed the players that emulate unique styles like european and korean players.
Why does his game lose this quality? Injury?
Lo mejor que tenia eran los golpes de topspin contra topspin y siempre manejo muy bien la potencia en todos los golpes a la pelota en movimiento (punta de pies) por lo mismo se lesionaba mucho!!! ...aunque era un gran Tenimesista, lo único que más le jugaba en contra... su temperamento!!!!!
The Viscaria came out in 1993 when Zhang Jike was 5 years old.
his prime is not 2016 my friend....
What was his record against Ma Lin?
If this guy wasnt forced to train while being injured I'm fairly confident the stories we tell about Ma long would be told about him.
Personally Chinese no 1
Prime or not Zhang Jike = Bad ass!
Is ZJK playing 2021?
I love how ZJ attacks most of the serves with back hand flick., goes to show you,, most serves Can be attacked.
When did this match between Zhang Jike and Lin Gaoyuan take place?
In 2016, i have explained in the video. You can watch the video with the subtitle
J’adore ce match, il me semble qu’il a battu ML et FDZ à cette même competion, définitivement mon joueur préféré
Je peux me permettre de vous envoyer une vidéo de mon entraînement en top coup droit pour vous demander des conseils ?
oui, bien sur. Allez-y.
@@pingsunday merci! Je vous ai envoyé la vidéo sur Twitter, je n’y arrive pas ici! Merci Joyeuse Pâques (je suis 7 😅)
Is that a new game?
Das Video fängt nach der Hälfte von vorne an, oder?
This is definitely not his prime, he won Lin 5-4 in a very closed match. I don't think Lin Guoyan could play that close match with Zhang in his prime
Exactly. His prime is around 2011-2012
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physically, he was not at his best, but technically, i believe that this jike is better than most players ever, including youngr players today
Why he stopped playing after olympics?
I have explained. Pease search "Zhang jike retirement pingsunday"
@@pingsunday ok thx
in 9 sets? or my eyes are bad?
yes, best of 9
Hi
will ZJK come back?
No. Sorry
I feel that ittf needs to switch back to the 40mm ball, since some people still use the 40mm bal and are good at it. Not only that, the new ball causes injuries (as seen from ERT's blog), but i don't know the reason why.
We are using 40 mm balls now ... You must mean 38 mm. Ittf already explained that they changed the size and material of the balls to have more rallies and longer ones to make the game more interesting to watch.
The ball itself does not cause injuries the problem is that the players to put the same speed on the ball need to use more body strength and in the end it ends up causing more injuries
No, there was a 38 mm ball before i was born, and then there was a 40mm ball until 2016. And now, there is a 40+mm ball, which was very troublesome for the older players. And some players are unaware of this change, so they are using a 40mm ball.
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I thought he had lauzy mentor/couch, thus leading to his eventual downfall due to outside sport gambling habit.
This is not his prime! He was way faster and stronger. Good video though. Give a like because it's ZJK you are talking about. But gotta unsuscribe for this false information.
Everybody talks about XX prime, or ML prime or even FZD prime that can beat ZJK prime. But did anyone think about Waldner prime? For sure waldner has a shot on beating ZJK prime. ✌️
Aldner played almost 30 years ago, TT players have evolved a lot since then, the technique, training and diet now is much better than 30 years ago.
Aldner would lose for sure.
Waldner have no even 1% chance to win him.. zjk balls are too fast, hard, and spinny for Waldner style..
Well, for me waldner has a shot against zjk. Waldner beat the crap out of timo boll, timo boll adapts to the changes in tt thats why he can compete against top chinese players though he cant beat them. So if you guys are saying that prime waldner cant adapt to this changes then waldner should have been stripped from being a grandslam champ. Prime Waldner is an athlete and he likes to compete so adapting to the new playing styles in tt shouldnt be a problem for him, so yeah for me prime waldner has a shot against prime zjk, he may not beat him atleast waldner has a shot going toe to toe against zjk. These players are called GOAT or Grandslam or anything else for a reason, and that reason is they are the best of the best. Old style or new style, its just the same sports.
Lin so weak...but score 5:4 :D
刚开始还以为是东北英语 后来感觉不是厉害了我的国的
Can Xu Xin beat prime Zhjk ???
It would be a really good match between both of them
Dimitrij ovtcharov also beat zjk at his prime
@@tabletennisgoosebumps1104 he didn't
@@funnypavel1937 search on 2009 he did
@@tabletennisgoosebumps1104 he did but I wouldn't say he was in his prime or top of his game. 2011 was really when he became unstoppable. That was his first wttc singles year where he won, before that he was still up and coming.
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First.
Lin Gaoyuan is not that strong compare to other Chinese National Team player. Zhang Jike needed to compete Ma Long for example so Lin wasn't serious opponent for him or for other Chinese top 4 player of that time.
Second.
Lin Gaoyuan himself is quite weak in domestic competitions. You can see results of any event (Marv 12, Chinese National Games etc.) and he is always below 6 major players. Only once he won Zhou Yu in a best of 3 match (was 1:1 and just one lucky set (for Lin). It was a competition for young Chinese players (not for all of them) and imediately was included in big 4... Strange situation. Still thinking may be Lin Gaoyuan a son of some sport officials of China...
Third.
This exect match was held when Lin Gaoyuan was not yet received many personal training sessions with top Chinese coaches.
In these Trials for Rio2016 ZJK won against Ma Long 5-2 and Fan Zhendong 5-1
try to examine this game, slomo it if u can, u will c how good lin in this match. however zjk is too fast to react in every ball lin has trown to him. u can see with lins reaction after each exchange. his very frustrated. i save this video for tactics study.
@@rodyderte3835 true
@@markterrin8673 im glad u saw it too. thanks!
You never get a place in China national team without deserving it..with results. Lin Guoyuan has held good results in Chinese top 12 years ago and is nr 4 of China and deserves some credit and tried hard to overcome mental problems in end of games..He also has disadvantage of plasticball...has enough speed but lacks comperatively some power...still technically nice lefthander to watch....