Let me give Jason Todd a hug... | BATMAN: UNDER THE RED HOOD Reaction
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Watching this coming from your Arkham Knight episode of Jason Todd’s backstory. Really saddens me, they did my boy dirty. 😢
It's ironic because it was the DC fans that were the reason Jason was killed in the comics. It's was a fan vote.
Fun fact: There is somewhat of a remake of this movie where you could choose who dies or who lives.
You could choose to let Jason die again and have the same ending as the movie or you could choose to let batman die instead and watch unfold how Jason would turn out.
@@esdeath.1047 True they did say it was going to be an interactive movie, but I watched it and that’s not the case. It’s just a series of short stories for a little over an hour and it sucked.
I know you would cry with the ending of the movie, what a movie
Fun fact: When Jason was still Robin, people didn't like him and they voted for his death, and that's how the red hood appeared
I think it's come out that the poll was rigged.
…And from what I’ve heard, the vote was fairly close. There were two phone numbers set up for the vote. One to kill Jason, one to let him live. Then again, the version of Jason in the comics at that time was kind of written as a jerk.
@@OXO1952 yeah, I also think someone set up a machine to call the kill line a bunch of times, the vote was close by like 50 and so people think that dude had something to do with it, either way I do believe this is a much better story for him, unfortunately people hated him for dumb reasons but he became a badass character on his own
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@@OXO1952 i am pretty sure the vote was rigged, but either way we got red hood who is 10x better
Joker saying “I love it! You managed to find a way to win. And everybody still loses!” Really twists the knife and makes the tragedy more apparent.
That last line "This is the best day of my life" is brutal. DC knew what they were doing.
For ones in their life XD
It's happy and sad. Because without Bruce, Jason never would have known "The happiest day in his life"
It gets me every time when I watch it 😢😢 every time
First time I heard it chills went through my spine. I distinctly remember it because it was the first time such a seemingly innocent line hit me so hard. Like a straight up instinctual feeling of "oh... fuck."
"Best day of my life!"
. . . meaning it's all downhill from there.
Tim Drake the Third Robin wasn't actually recruited by batman. When Jason Todd died Batman became much more violent and self destructive. Tim Drake being a VERY smart kid actually deduced Batman's secret identity on his own. when he realized batman was destroying himself over Jason's death Tim Became the new robin because he believed Batman NEEDS a robin to keep him from going over the edge
I lowkey forget which robin is which. I only remember Tim being called red robin.
@@mochii813 In the DCAU (The New Batman Adventures onward) he comes after Dick (since they skipped Jason for obvious reasons at the time) as the second Robin
Tim Drake's investigation ability is so good Ra's al Ghul also calls him detective.
@@mochii813tim was also the one that got corrupted by Joker
@BaeBunni I always loved that Bruce himself admits with pride that Tim will be a better detective than him eventually.
Jason Todd went from extremely disliked to extremely beloved. Definitely turned out to be my favorite of the Robins. Helps to have Jensen Ackles as his voice actor.
I actually looked into the older comics with Jason and... I actually liked him. He was different from Dick. He was brash, he talked back, but it he was still loyal. Fans just wanted the same old thing. Hell, he originally was a circus performer like Dick until they revamped him to be less like him.
Tim drake is my favourite Robin but Nightwing is my favourite bat family member.
Jensen Ackles wants to play Jason Todd in live action so much he got his own Redhood costume made and went as it for Halloween one year.
When i play Gotham Knight as Red Hood, it felt more personal for Jason to avenge Bruce's death and that Lazarus Pit fight? Just really canon to me than the others(no offense). Then, you have the Red Hood and the outlaws comic book, just so much development than all the Bat Family. To be honest though, i felt like Jason personality is like the "literally me" because he is relatable to our life. From an active and energetic boy wonder to a broken and depress outlaws but he still tries to redeem himself for what he become.
@@spikejr3113jr really???
@@redhakiim789 I initially thought I'd play Richard in the Gotham Knights game, but boy was I wrong. Jason is just fun to play in combat. But in stealth, ohh boy, he struggles, but that is part of the fun, the challenge. He isn't Batman, but at the same time, he is the closest to what we get to Bruce as a character. The big guy with a heart of gold that is very misunderstood.
just a couple 'fun' little facts:
Jason is Bruce's first adopted son, Dick wasn't officially adopted until he was an adult
. Jason was the golden child of the robins, Dick, Tim and Damien all came with challenges, had their own problems, but Jason was just happy to be there
. Batman's biggest fear according to the Scarecrow Toxin was Jason's death, and even years after he came back, was still his biggest regret
. Alfred once said that Jason's death hit Bruce worse than even his parents', because he had the power to stop it this time
. in the comics, when Jason was revived, despite having no memories at all, he still called out for Bruce
and last of all...
Jason made Bruce laugh on the anniversary and in the location of his parents death when he tried to steal the wheels off the batmobile
Somewhat right but Jason was never adopted as a son rather as a ward like Dick, Tim would be the first to be adopted as a son and for a brief period was Tim Wayne and was the heir to the Wayne fortune much to Damien’s dismay. Jason was not considered the golden child of Robins that would go to either Dick or Tim, Dick for his optimism despite his origin and Tim for his cunning and detective skills. Jason was more the spoiled child, a reaction on Bruce’s behalf to the firing of Dick. It’s why Jason got away with murder while he was Robin despite Bruce knowing what happened. That is if post crisis continuity even counts these days.
@@brianjong8945that makes a little more sense, the more I think about it, Tim, Jason, and Dick kind of represent Bruce’s traits. Spoiled, Optmistic, and Intelligent. Optimism coming from Dick, the detective skills are in Tim, and the Spoiled one is Jason
This happens years after the original story but there was even more moments showcasing Bruce and Jason like father and son.
One time for Bruce’s birthday he told bruce he would someday fix Bruce’s fathers watch which had a complicated mechanics to it. Fast forward to Red Hood after joining the Bat Family, Jason finally gifted Bruce the fixed watch from a distance.
Another one is a flashback to Jason’s first patrol, and Alfred wanted a picture to commemorate it. Jason kept asking how to pose for the picture and Bruce kept saying “be serious” only for the picture to show them both smiling.
@@brianjong8945 Bruce has a slightly different relationship with each of his kids. But Jason is the only son that really choose him as his real and only father.
Dick, Tim, Cass, had their dad. And Damien is complicated.
Jason doesn't consider his bioparent his real dad Bruce is.
Bruce adopted Jason, he was actually the first child he ever adopted. Dick was his ward and Bruce loved him like a son, but he didn't adopt him until he was an adult.
I love all the Robins, they are all different but amazing in their own way.
Carrie Kelly is one of my favorite Robins.
no, actually tim was the first to get adopted, jason was in between that period of change about how you get to take children in
@@darkothemapper1826there was an arc where Jason was gonna get adopted by Bruce but it was denied and he was adopted by another Batman villain nocturne. After nocturne died right before crisis on infinite earths the world was reimagine and Jason’s origin changed and then he was fully adopted by Bruce. Only dick was ever a ward both jason and Tim were adopted and then dick
@@darkothemapper1826 no actually Tim was the third to be adopted by Bruce.
Jason was the first son he adopted cuz even though Dick had no parents he didn’t want to try and replace John as Dicks father whereas with Jason, he had no one.
So he adopted Jason and then Dick and finally Tim after Tim lost his dad.
@@ianbruno237
IIRC the Pre-Crisis Jason Todd was adopted first. No one ever really remembers him because he didn't last long and was a carbon copy of Dick Grayson down to being an orphan from a family of acrobats. He never died and vanished during the Crisis. The Post-Crisis Jason Todd was given a completely new back story and he was the one killed.
The Joker is voiced by John DiMaggio (Bender, Jake the Dog, Marcus Fenix, etc.) in this film, and his performance is one my favorite animated Joker interpretations. I actually prefer him to Troy Baker's Joker, because instead of trying to impersonate Mark Hamill he does his own thing. I really like Kevin Michael Richardson's Joker (from _The Batman_ animated series) for the same reason, and his *very different* interpretation of the character earned him two Daytime Emmy nominations.
To be fair though, Troy Baker doing a Mark Hamill impression was the entire point, same as Roger Craig Smith doing a Kevin Conroy impression.
@@SkipChylark Sure. I just think that when the OG voice actor you're trying to impersonate is already so perfect in their respective role, it is better to do your own thing than to try to perfectly fill their shoes. Whenever I hear Troy Baker's Joker, I can't help but think of him as the knockoff Mark Hamill Joker. That's not to say he doesn't do a good job, but I can *_always_* tell when it's him and not the "real deal", and then I just end up thinking to myself: how would Mark Hamill have handled that line differently? It's sort of uncanny to me. I don't have any complaints about Roger Craig Smith's Batman however, because to me, he doesn't sound anything like Kevin Conroy.
Did healso play Schnitzel?
@@l0sts0ul89 Yes, along with _many_ other roles. He's a very prolific VA.
DiMaggio does a great job at voicing a clearly older Joker.
For a long time, there was a running joke that only 3 comic book characters will always stay dead: Jason Todd, Bucky Barnes and Uncle Ben
….Well uncle Ben is still dead at least
@@yahiko7701Only because him being alive would be good for Peter.
@@yigitorhan7654 oof I hate that you’re right about that
Gwen Stacy was on the list when I used to hear that back in the day.
Tbf i don't think bucky ever died, and jason todd is voiced by jensen who's known for dying repeatedly
Fun fact: Jason is a bookworm (big fan of classics like Jane Austen) and a theatre kid (explains how dramatic he is with stuff like heads in bags, and wearing a mask UNDER a mask!).
“Because he took me away from you…” totally broke my heart the first time I heard it.
Batman not being perfect is why I think his animated series and movies are the most popular. I think its easier to write interesting stories around his character.
The reason Jason returned “damaged” is a couple of things. One, the longer someone is dead the less whole their mind will be when brought back. Two Ra’s can take it because he’s done it for 500 years, Jason was new so there were some unforeseen consequences. That combination of reasons made him mad. Of course time healed his mind but by that time it was too late. He was angry, angry for dying, angry at Joker, angry at Bruce, and angry for being forgotten. He knew what he had to do, what Batman couldn’t.
Despite being a big Batman fan growing up, this was actually my introduction to Red Hood back in 2010. And honestly it’s still my favorite Red Hood media to date. They just nailed so many things about the character, the story, and even the action.
Also yes, Black Mask’s mask is a mask…at least until it gets seared into his face and becomes a permanent one.
My first exposure to Red Hood too
My first exposure to Red Hood was in Batman Arkham Knight when he became red hood after his Arkham Knight persona
Batman is literally insane, and he knows that. His no killing rule is what stops him from falling and becoming a dark, insane killer for 'justice' but he does try and force others to follow his rule, and there's been times he's been very angry with people for killing, including jason
a lot of people don't get that his mental issues are worse than he lets on. The rule is to keep him in check. if he indulges theres a deep deep gulf that he crashes down into. We've since seen what he becomes if he breaks that rule and the Batman Who Laughs is a multi-dimensional apocalypse event.
Can I just say I love the parallel between Bruce and Jason with how they choose their alter egos. Bruce as a child was a afraid of bats, and there for chose to embrace he fear to use as a weapon against his enemies. Jason chose to take on a mantel that was once worn by the man who murdered him. Something that he fears, for as much as he hates the joker, the clown still haunts Jason's nightmares. Jason is also taking his fear and turning it into a weapon. The same logic as his old man.
I think the plate drop from Alfred is one of the most underrated emotional reactions in the DCAU. People don't often think about it but yes, Bruce is like a son to him, but so are all the Robins! All of them are like family to him, he's watched all of them grow up in their own way and for Alfred to realize that one of his sons is the Red Hood they've been looking for... Alfred is unshakable, but that definitely broke his heart!
More so, the Robins would be his *grandsons*. Arguably hurts even worse.
30:58 You're not alone. We all do. That was one of the saddest endings I've ever seen in a movie.
I actually think everything you said about Batman and Jason was pretty spot on.
Batman is my favorite DC hero and I agree that the stories that involve him and the Bat Family are often tragic, messy, and heart wrenching and that is probably why people tend to love him so much lol
I swear, Batman and Spider-Man are two superheroes that can make me bawl with how miserable their lives can be at times 😭
Daredevil's life also tends to be pretty miserable.
@@joshuanelson6795 you ain't wrong 😭
And both superheroes has a great plethora of villains with one laughing manic that keeps fucking up his loved ones. Kinda funny that way.
Something really interesting from Jason is:
This movie kinda made him have this "Broken kid, violent" kinda deal
In the comics he's more or less the most Wholesome of all the Robins, he was just a little happy kid
And that kinda made him even more tragic, comparing Jason as a Robin and Dick as a Robin
Is really funny how DICK was the most angsty
@@Xehanort10 But i AM talking about Post Crisis Jason
@@passarovoador6662 Erm.... Read "The Diplomat's son". A one-issue and done story about Post-Crisis Jason. You'll probably change your mind. It is not a retcon - it was written in the 80s before "A death in the family" and shows you how problematic Jason had always been.
That last scene "This is the best day in my life" always brings me to tears as a die hard Bat Family fan.
Black mask IS hilarious. He’s the one who, when someone said “you don’t know who I am? You killed my father” He responds by saying “Do you have any idea how little that narrows things down?”
Oh, a precursor to Blight?
Black Mask was always my favorite Batman villain. He's the perfect mix of the old-school gangster's from Batman's early years, and the batshit insane villains of his present. A great description I once heard is that he's if a coked-out Miami Vice villain moved to Gotham
Dick became Nightwing to get out of batmans shadow. He got the name from Superman, Nightwing is a krypton folk hero, their version of Robin hood basically.
Red Hood does survive, but I don't think they establish which if tye two paths he takes from the various comics. One I'd he joins the Batfam using non lethal but brutal techniques, like The Huntress. Second is he starts a vigilante biker gang going from city to city fighting gangs
Red Hood and his own team doing their own things (the Outlaws) is a good concept, but DC Comics failed to execute the idea properly. Twice.
I'm so glad they brought Jason back from the dead. He's my favorite Robin so you can imagine how pissed I was when my dad said he voted MULTIPLE TIMES for him to die
Edit: In regards to Black Mask, yes and no. It was a mask at first but then it got fused to his face in a fire
Neil Patrick Harris as Nightwing is legen...
Wait for it...
... DARY!!!!
Yeah seeing that ending for the first time made my heart drop😭
I know some people are questioning the timing of this movie, but when I thought about it. Now is the time for Meg to know about Jason without being spoiled. So it just made sense timing wise. And it prepares her a bit for Gotham Knights so she’s not completely out of the loop when she eventually gets to that game.
This movie is really good. It changes and adds so much depth to both Batman and Jason.
But Mask of the Phantasm will always be my favorite animated Batman movie
Mask of the Phantasm and Under the Red Hood are my top two favorite Batman movies of all time. To me they get the character perfectly while adding to the story.
I mean Mask of The Phantasm is the golden standard for animated superhero films. That's kind of a no brainer.
"i dont know who red hood is"
okay, NOW i'm all in on this reaction!
Batman's biggest mistake is that: differentiate between a psychopath and a common criminal. He is very human, but is not necessary to save them all, some actually deserve to be in the mud
My favorite DCEU movie. the scene of Batman and Jason at the end always make me cry.
Urgh, Under the Red Hood! 😍 This one is where I set the bar for DC animated movies; the story, the voice acting, the animation, all so good!! Great pick to start off the new year! 💙
I remember reading a story a while ago; the late and great Kevin Conroy wanted to include Jason and the Death in the Family storyline for BTAS, but because Warner Bros had to/wanted to keep it kid friendly, they had to omit Jason entirely 😕Damn shame but at least we have the animated movies and games that give Jason his due.
The execs really wanted to keep the DCAU as kid friendly as possible. The writers basically had to trick them to kill off Dan Turpin in Superman. They promised the death would be reversed and never did it. It’d be pretty impossible to trick them into allowing a super famous comic book death that’s extremely brutal. Also Jason didn’t come back to life until 2005, near the tail end of JLU.
Well, Tim in BTAS was Jason in all but name, truth be told.
Jason Todd as Red Hood is really interesting...because it's a direct response to people saying that Gotham is as bad as it is BECAUSE Batman won't kill...because he lets people get out of Arkham to chase them down and kill more innocents. It's so interesting to see them tackle that.
Punisher kills but what does he change? he kills yet it does absolutely nothing, if punisher’s method works then why does he keep killing? nah killing solves absolutely nothing there is always someone else to kill, people have killed since the beginning of time what did it change up to today? Punisher is one of my favorite comic book characters but not cause I agree with him, he is 100% wrong and if he is roght why doesn’t he want anyone to follow in his footsteps? Killing someone doesn’t fix what they’ve done and only shows your morals were lowered by said person in this case the joker. Batman vs joker is like a metaphor for good vs evil. The joker wants to show people are inherently wicked just like him and Batman who like robin stated has every reason to turn wicked but by being the bigger person shows the joker after everything Batman still has his morals. Which is what hes fighting for in the first place. He is an instrument for the good of humanity. Once a person thinks they can play god and become the one who decides who can die or live they have lost trust in humanity which is what evil wants in the end.
Hey, I was hoping you’d get to this one! The Bat Family, with all the robins and batgirls coming back home to roost, is experiencing a renaissance right now; here’s hoping it has a golden age, so I can look forward to looking forward to those reactions from you as well! :)
Fun fact: Jensen Ackles, the man who voices Jason in this movie, also voiced Batman in The Long Halloween movie
From hunting creatures of the night to becoming one. That’s character development
@@zeldagameryt4018 very nice
Soldier boy
Im happy that you enjoyed this movie, It’s one of my favorites. This and Mask of the Phantasm are my favorite Batman movies of all time. This film was my introduction to Jason Todd/ Red Hood, I watched this in middle school (watched a lot of DC animation around that time) and found this character so fascinating. Also Meg, we all feel bad for Jason and even though the stuff he does isn’t batmans way, we understand him.
Phantasm is the gold standard
@@S_047 100% How do you feel about the Dark Knight Returns animated movie?
@@lexofpower2822 it’s pretty much just the comic barely anything was changed, but since the comic is great it is of course great
@@jeux2322 I feel the same
Let’s gooo! Favorite character in the Batman universe right here, Jason is one of those characters that were so hurt that they decided to take matters into their own hands, yet you can’t disagree with them, only with how they are going about it. He’s a Tragic hero and I love that troupe lol 😂
Death in the family is a interactive version of this movie, essentially having different endings of how Jason COULD have turned out. You can watch it but none of it really happens, but it DOES give you great insight to Jason’s character and his mind
My absolute favorite DC animated movie of all time , mask of the phantasm and the flashpoint paradox are both very close seconds but this is the movie that got me to go back and read up on Jason he’s one of my favorite robins forsure and the red hood character is a top 5 for me when it comes to DC
For understanding why Dick Grayson stopped being robin just keep watching the animated series (including the new batman adventures) it will explain over time
Also death in the family is a choose your own adventure movie, I would say that you dont need to watch that.
"Did you put him in the Lazarus Pit?"
Well... blame Superboy Prime punching reality...
that change with Jason in the light you saw was Batman having a tiny flashback to remind himself that the Red Hood is Jason Todd after being killed by the joker and being revived in Ra's Al Ghul's Lazarus pit.
“This is the best day of my life”
One of the saddest moments and endings in any DC Film
Batman Under The Red Hood is without a doubt one of the best animated films and comic book storylines of all time. Jason’s death affected Bruce so much, it turned him into the Batman we all know today. Alfred’s reaction to Jason being alive was also very sad. Jason Todd is Batman’s greatest failure whereas Dick is his greatest success. Black Mask is also one of my favourite things about this film, he’s hilarious.
Jason is my favorite character! This was really fun to watch with you. This is my favor DC animated movie too. I’m really glad you got to learn Jason’s story. This is a very short version of it, but this is easily the best DC animated film. Jason goes on to be an anti-hero and then welcomed back into the bat-family eventually in the comics, but he’s not in anymore animated movies I think.
The original comic where Jason dies is called “Death in the Family”. The movie is like an interactive DVD, and you can choose alternate paths to see alternate endings to this story, but they were all made for the movie. If you watch it, try to get it in disc to choose your path instead of watching it on streaming (I watched it on streaming, and you don’t get to see all the story paths)
I think the inscription on Jason’s memorial in the Cave perfectly sums up why he has such an issue with Bruce. “A good soldier.”
Not “A good son.” Not “Jason.” Not even “Robin.” Just “A good soldier.” Because ultimately, that’s how Bruce defaults to seeing and treating people, even those closest to him. As soldiers in his endless, doomed war to right enough wrongs that somehow his parents’ death won’t hurt so much.
What I love about the interactive movie is if you just watch the recap of Under The Red Hood with Bruce monologuing, the writers decided to rectify the “good soldier” by having Bruce continuously call Jason “son” throughout the entire thing.
I know fans like to say that Bruce has a favorite and 90% of them say it’s either Tim, Damian or Dick. But honestly I think it’s Jason. You can even go back to old comics and Bruce is just so openly loving and fatherly towards Jason. Like there is a reason why Jason’s death shattered Bruce so much, why he was even willing to to kill Joker if Superman hadn’t stopped him and it’s cuz Bruce deeply loved Jason and I love that the interactive movie shows that side of Bruce
@@TheAngelofFate17 If he does have a favorite, it would be the idea of Jason. The reality often falls short. Dick is his greatest success, the lighter reflection of himself, and the only one who will and has truly surpassed him. Tim is best partner. Damian is a redemption project, and the most likely one to take the cowl long term. But Jason is always a goal for Bruce. Someone to mold and save, then someone to redeem, and later someone to respect and work with as an equal.
Hmmmmm I’m going to honest with you as a comic fan i really don’t like that interpretation. the whole “good soldier” thing pretty much started with Frank Miller the dark Knight returns and it’s really just not a good representation of bruce’s relationship with Jason (Jason being his first son properly adopted) idk why it’s so common
@@Asterraugury yeah completely agree. I mean, what would you prefer? Relatively good dad Bruce or Batman using child soldiers? Easy answer for me and most of the fans. Shame what they're doing in the comics right now. If you're interested in good dad Bruce Content I'd suggest looking up Wayne Familyl Adventures.
The good soldier thing is so bad, frankly. It’s genuinely garbage writing lmao
@27:33 I’m pretty sure when Jason says here “the friends he’s crippled” that, that was a reference to Barbara Gordon when the Joker shot and paralyzed her in the story The Killing Joke.
I hate that that's just canon in every Batman story ever now. It sucks.
@zombifiedpariah7392 I honestly prefer barbara as oracle, then batgirl cause that's what I grew up with, and it lets characters such as cassandra cain and stephanie brown be batgirl.
@@jamesiitaylor7709 I don't care. Don't force it into every fucking story now.
@zombifiedpariah7392 their not forcing it in. If anything, it'd be a miracle in modern versions with Barbara as oracle cause dc wants batgirl in things and refuses to acknowledge cass and stephanie's existence.
@R.J.Godzilla81 yeah, no shit sherlock
Interesting fact that most stories ignore and most fans dont know about is that Batman did try to kill Joker after he killed Jason but the Justice League stopped him
This is one of the best Batman movies. Jason as Red Hood is a fan favorite in the fan base and I’ve seen people cosplay as him in conventions. I do recommend reading some of his solo comics one day. I love the cast. Jensen Ackles killed it as Jason knowing he would voiced Bruce in Long Halloween. Bruce Greenwood did a good job as Bruce. He sounded like Kevin Conroy yet he made it his own. John DiMaggio as Joker is in my top 3 voices of the character next to Troy Baker & Mark Hamill. Neil Patrick Harris as Nightwing was fitting because he voiced Spidey once and both are wise crackers. A good adaption of the Red Hood storyline. In the comics, Bruce & Jason did eventually made amends and Jason became a ally to the Bat Family & fall under the anti hero category because he still kills people depending if they deserve it. ^^ Now you’ve met three of the four main robins which leaves one more which I know you’ll meet one day. ☺️
Surprised to see you watch this one, but I’m glad you did, because this is easily one of the best Batman movies of all time. Jason Todd is the red-headed stepchild of the Bat family, never fully embraced by the fans who mercilessly chose to kill him off rather than see him don the red and green again. He is such a tragic character who is understandably pissed off at a world that doesn’t love him, but Batman never gave up on him. Their dynamic is one of the most heartbreaking in all of comics, and it’s great that there’s a movie that perfectly captures their unique relationship. I’m glad you enjoyed this one, Meg! 😊
The comic Lonely Place of Dying follows the immediate aftermath of Jason’s death and follows Tim Drakes journey to becoming Robin
Alternatively, if you want more Dick Grayson, check out the Black Mirror, which takes place in a timeline where Bruce Wayne has disappeared and Dick is filling in as Batman
Batman Hush is also considered a modern classic
Absolutely beautiful effing reaction.
I cried with you when young Jason says "This is the best day of my life"
I love Jason Todd and Under The Red Hood made it happen, thank you Judd Winick
There was a miniseries comic shortly after this called “Battle for the Cowl” with the 3 main Robins that was such a good story.
It isn't just about his code. Like Batman said, he fears that if he kills Joker, it won't end with him.
I've seen this movie so many times and not once have I considered that Jason was maybe trying to take himself out when he jumped out that window I mean Jason was in a feral state so it's very possible
That last bit at the end with the flashback of Jason as a Robin always tears me up
"And that torture, beating him up like that, as a kid, and killing him. Talk about a traumatic experience, jeez!"
People who've seen a certain DC animated movie: .... :)
ya robin is one of the most famous examples of a "Legacy Hero" which is basically when super hero identity is passed on from one to another. other great examples being: The Flash with Jay Garrick/ Barry Allen/ Wally West, Blue Beetle with Dan Garrett/ Ted Kord/ Jaime Reyes
Batman also doesn't mainly kill his villains because they are usually people who are just sick, or wronged by the world they are in. He's trying to help them. A ton of his villains are usually mentioned to be able to turn out like him if only they weren't messed up. Dick also was his "perfect" successor, Like Bruce in every way but more caring. You are right about him not being able to take out the Joker, In a ton of stories he's the reason he keeps going and vise versa, In one of them when Batman stopped, Joker did too along with a ton of other villains, It just puts a ton into perspective.
“It can’t be Jason Todd right, cause he died”
Oh this is gonna be a good reaction.
John DiMaggio acting as joker really blew me away and i feel it even rivals mark hamills joker
Ending on that last memory of Jason, is the perfect way to close out this story. It really sells what punch in the gut this whole experience is, but dammit if isn't good.
I just recently watched this movie for the first time, while already knowing that Jason Todd was the Red Hood. It was great to find a reaction from somebody who wasn't in the know.
Jensen Ackles gives such an INCREDIBLE performance as Jason. Yeah, he's the "villain" of the movie, but really this story is about his trauma and heartbreak, and how it isn't compatible with Bruce's, and what a tragedy that is. The look on Jason's face when Bruce won't go along with his little setup really shows how desperate he is for his dad to take care of him. Despite his ultimatum, Jason DOESN'T shoot the Joker. More than anything else, he wanted Bruce to do it. He wanted to feel like Batman cared about him, cared when he died. And asking for that, and getting a "no", hurts him more than anything else.
How Batman even managed to dodge the bullet from behind especially when a bullet is so fast that he would have had a hole in him once he hears the gunshot.
the fact joker is still alive is crazy
OMG i was waiting for this one!
One of my favorite not just animated movies, but super hero movies period.
As a huge DC Batman fan, I think you’re pretty spot on with Bruce’s savior complex, at least in this iteration, because of his success with Dick Grayson. Dick turned out well enough considering everything he went through, he’s the success story of Batman but Jason is the failure of Batman’s watch and care. Early on in the comics, there were no real distinctions between Jason and Dick from a character personality perspective, but now with his evolution into Red Hood that it turns it into a kind of meta narrative, the story within the story, being how in trying to make Jason into Dick, he failed him and through an indirect method caused Jason to become the Red Hood. I also wanna briefly mentioned how this story started this idea that Jason had a dark side to him in his days as robin when that originally wasn’t the case, it’s just a way to justify how Jason could’ve turned into this and although it’s a deviation the effort is appreciated in trying to make this story whole along with several other changes that genuinely make better sense than how it originally happened in the comics.
Your reaction was so good i love this movie everything about it the music the script the voice actors wow what an experience i always love watching prople react to this for the first time even your discussion afterwards was so good im subscribed ❤❤❤
Dick turned into Nightwing because he didn't want to become Batman, and he didn't want to live under Bruce's shadow anymore. At the time they had a rough relationship. Dick is until this day the best Batman after Bruce, ironically
I actually liked the aftermath of Jason getting his revenge, 2 different alternatives but one I like is that Jason goes to a dinner knowing joker was there, joker got his life straight and once it gets to the end Jason quotes joker before he killed him; “next time I see him, I’ll tell the big man you said…hello” definitely one of my favorite lines
It's not up to Batman to decide who lives or dies, he is not an executioner and Batman wants to believe in the legal system.
It's interesting for me to see how people react to these stories who didn't grow up with them. That's an experience I don't have, because by the time I was four, I was hooked. 30 years later, still hooked. Just a couple points that I think deserve consideration.
"I didn't kill him, because it would be too easy."
When Batman's code/ "one rule" of not killing comes up, it is framed as him not killing because murder is unethical. On it's own, that's a good reason not to murder people. That said, talking in terms of what is moral versus immoral is by its very nature a broad concept. To be more specific in reference to Batman, he doesn't kill because it's immoral, and because he knows himself, he knows that if he kills Joker, the killing won't stop there. If he can justify to himself killing the Joker, then what about Two-Face? Riddler? Where is the proverbial line in the sand? Only killing people who have killed other people? What about the dealers that sell drugs that people overdose on and die? Does the dealer deserve to die? What about the people that actually manufactured the drugs? If they hadn't made it, the person that overdosed wouldn't be dead, Batman wouldn't have killed the dealer, so really all those deaths are because of the people that made the drugs in the first place. So, if the line is now killing people for doing things that down the line will get people killed, what about pharmaceutical companies? What makes a bank robber that kills someone worse than a cop that kills someone? Does Batman kill the cop? Batman is filled with guilt and rage and is extremely intelligent. He knows if he can justify killing one person, he can justify killing hundreds, maybe thousands of people. He can't cross that line, because he knows he would lose himself in all the death that would come after it.
Batman turning his back to Jason.
That was a deliberate move to get Jason to shoot him. He wasn't turning his back on Jason because he really was ready to write him off and walk away, it was a ploy. That's why Joker has the line "you still figured out a way to win!"
Drug dealers dont directly kill people, also those users do it willingly lmao, also batmans rule is a selfish fallacy
I agree with you Jason Todd is a tragic figure and a awesome character. Also yes Bruce thinks of Jason and dick as both his sons. Also don’t worry dick and Bruce have their own issues which led him to become nightlong, I won’t spoil that for you
I meant night wing
I think this the best animated that DC has ever produced
Regarding Batman A Death in the Family, if your going to do that one, it's honestly better to get the DVD. Jason's death in the comic A Death in the Family was the result of a fan vote (my understanding is the writer hated the idea of Robin and wanted to get rid of him to make Batman a solitary predator figure so he started writing Jason in a way he hoped would make readers turn on him and it worked). So the movie was made to honor that event, with various parts where you are given an option to change how the story goes. But the streaming version takes away the interactivity and leaves you with just 3 preset outcomes.
I remember when I first learned they'd brought Jason back I was shocked. It had become a joke among comic fans that Jason's death was one of the few major comic book deaths that stuck, along with Bucky, Uncle Ben, etc. Then he's back. Couldn't get the trades fast enough.
When you said " ok, so he likes explosions." My immediate thoughts were, "yeah, so much so that he walks around with an explosive on his head"😂
The main character In James A Wendt's Book Disposable Children reads like a real life Jason Todd....at least to me
I highly recommend watching the choose your own adventure movie death in the family. While some choices can lead to this movie they can change things and have really good momments
I graduated from high school today and I didn't cry, but when Jason said" he took me away from you", I started crying like a child
i still can't believe that jason's death in the comics was solely based off a call-in ballot and people voted to kill him off
In the comics Jason sought out his mother and revealed who he was, (since he was an orphan living on the streets they hadn't exactly met since she gave him up), unknown to him she was working with the joker, Jason thought she was kidnapped and she lured him into a trap, then the Joker beat the everloving crap out of him with a crowbar and locked him and his mother into a warehouse with a bomb that killed his mother and nearly killed him, he was presumed dead (the lazarus pits don't actually bring people back from the dead, but it heals just about any wound and de-ages you, you also go insane with prolonged use). The joker then became the Iranian UN ambassador which gave him diplomatic immunity forcing Superman to talk Batman down from going to the UN building and outright killing him.
The actual return of Jason as Red Hood was a lot more convoluted involving Hush and Clayface pretending to be an older Jason among other things to screw with batmans mind.
22:37 when will you learn, when will you learn that your actions HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!?! LOL
The thing about Jason’s ultimatum is that it would have turned out in his favor had he not let his anger take over. His more mad at Bruce than he is at Joker, and he lets that decide where the bullet flies when if he’s just shot Joker as he claimed he would, Bruce really would’ve had to live with that on his conscience forever.
I think he was just flabbergasted that after his passing Joker just went to jail like usual. Like he was just another statistic. He wanted Bruce to show that he really love him by ending the Joker.
@@theannualantagonist5930 he definitely did, but in the end his conviction faltered- he let his bitterness toward Bruce override the actual desire to be rid of Joker.
@@theannualantagonist5930 There's the implication that he put Joker in a "full-body cast".
Under the Red Hood is a Flawless Masterpiece!
Also the Dark Knight Returns animated movies are just about equal in quality. Highly recommend reacting to those when you have the time
There is a multiverse world, where Bruce does indeed kill Joker after Jason's death. And true to Bruce's prediction, he keeps going. He kills, and kills, and keeps killing to the point where Superman and the League step in to stop him; in which he kills Superman as well, but not before Clark near cripples Bruce.
Even when Jason comes back as Red Hood, that Jason who died in that explosion is gone forever. That's why Jason is Batman's greatest failure, because he failed not only to save Robin but to save Jason himself
If you ever watched "Supernatural", you'll note that's Jensen Ackles (Dean Winchester)as Jason/Red Hood, playing the horrifically tortured son again. Back then, this was the closest he got to playing Batman, until he finally did in "The Long Halloween".
The way I see it, Jason Todd is the Jin Sakai to Bruce Wayne's Shimura. Bruce will not break his code, even if it means letting a psycho clown live, knowing that he'll just break out and kill again, whereas with Jason, he knows that Batman's way is ineffective, and is willing to whatever it takes to rid Gotham of its criminals, even if it means killing them, but in doing so, he's betraying his father and eveything he taught him.
So Bruce adopted Dick after both of Dick's parents were murdered. Dick Grayson was in the circle with his parents as a group called The Flying Grayson's. Bruce raised Dick and most of the Robin's from the time they were kids. Dick is a lot like Batman though, they have a lot of shared trauma and because of them he became Nightwing to get out of Batman's shadow.
I don't even think of Jason watching this, I just hear Dean Winchester
2:05 - "Oh, and she's terribly partial to the periwinkle blue." - Mickey O'Neil [Brad Pitt] from the movie _Snatch_ (2000). Highly recommendable movie.
Jason Todd’s Family is the Wayne Family. Bruce Legally Adopted Jason Todd and Dick Grayson, gave them a formal education and let them graduate to live their own lives.
I think when Batman turns his back on Jason, what he was doing was saying "I won't make this decision. If you do this, you are the one making that choice. I'm not a part of it, and that's not how I raised you." Also, Batman was the best possible parent he could be. Jason was already broken. Dick had a loving family that was killed, and Batman turned him into the most respected hero in the DC universe, both among fans and the characters in the universe. Batman did the best he could... if he had given them to happy, stable families, they would have seethed in their hatred and desire for revenge, and would have fallen into a dark place.
Wonder Woman once accused Batman of trying to turn orphans into him, and his response is "I didn't do it so they would become like me. I did it so they wouldn't." With Dick, it worked. With everyone else in the Bat-Family, it worked. But Jason was already far gone, and then Joker gave him that "one bad day" that sent him over the edge. Lazarus Pits are also known to drive you insane, and they heavily imply that was part of it, but Jason denies that because he's trying to dissociate that there was ever any good in him so he can handwave away the terrible things he's doing.
Love your reaction
This movie is a masterpiece. I remember I was 8 when I watched it and after that, I went to the comic section in my library and read under the red hood, death in the family, and a whole bunch of Jason Todd comics. DC has some dark stuff but not that dark tbh. There is some happy fun stuff too.
14:13 she says goes on all around about not understanding stuff about the DC universe and Batman.
Me: I understand you I feel the same way
Red hood is my favorite character I have every issue of red hood and the outlaws. The dark trinity
It wasn't just the fact that Joker killed him. His father was an abusive, drunk criminal and his mother who he was trying to save literally sold him out to the Joker and got him killed. Bruce was basically all Jason had. He never got to see what his death did to Bruce. How he literally went through Superman and said "Fuck your diplomatic immunity" to beat the absolute dogshit out of Joker. He never saw the sheer terror the criminals of Gotham lived in for a good while after his death because Batman was absolutely done with their bullshit. He return to see the wheel spun all the way through. As far as he knew - he died and nothing changed. Losing him didn't affect Bruce at all.