Destiny debates nazbol Eric Striker
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I won't lie, I thought nazbol was a lord of the rings character.
Were the nazguls nazbols? 🤔
Can’t be, because themselves the ‘black riders’.
I won't lie, I thought cornpop was a bad dood.
I won't lie, this is definitely me when I hate black people but love leftist economic policies.
He might be a roleplayer :'D
"Jazz music is all bbrbrbrbrbr"
Destiny you really need to slow down and stop using bad faith debate tactics to dodge these high level arguments.
RelicDelic man your comment just made me lol so hard
@@Cleeboos the jazz question
@Butter Brickle ehhh to you. I dont love all jazz but I love certain jazz artists
@Butter Brickle jazz is such a broad genre, it makes no sense to say that ALL of it's bad.
@@tongpoo8985 dw Ive perused the comments and he does this a lot. His only responses when challenged are "I dont wike it."
I used to agree with Destiny about the alt right being wrong, then I found out that jazz music just goes "brrrbrbrbrrrbrr"
„Let‘s talk like adults“
It do go *Brr*
this man isnt alt right he is like alt left
@@quinn28 he's alt disabled
@@B0Sajwah wouldn't this mean heathy, though?
Mongolian throat singing is the Highest Culture
Based
i beg to differ, rotterdam has the highest culture
Mongolian throat singers go “OoOOOo AHhh ooo”.
That stuff is actually dope 🤣
Found The HU fan
“I’m trying to have an adult conversation”
“All Jazz is just brlrlrlrbrrbwlwl”
Almost as dumb as saying classical music is simple. Whoops!
ryan thompson Compare Mars the Planet to Giant Steps. Flight of the Bumblebee to Rap God. In The Hall of the Mountain King to Sprites and Scary Momsters.
They're not straight comparisons, as they work of different sets of principles, but let's try.
I'm no music major, but there can be said to be five characteristics of classical music. Elegance and balance, question and answer phrases, diatonic harmonies, usually with the accompaniment at the same rhythm as the melody, and contrasting moods.
What are some characteristics that John Coltrane, Eminem, and Skrillex share?
I mean, dubstep can supposedly be traced back to Jamaica, rap has a pretty direct connection to blacks in America, he Coltraine is black. Got any others?
@@harleygarrett8063 Eminem had that great song where he fantasized about killing his girlfriend. Then there's the one where he talks about having an orgasm. Sure is equal to Bach in terms of depth and harmony, isn't it?
@@DylanRoth1860 No? Didn't claim that. That's like, and I don't believe this is a hyperbole, comparing Banskie and Bob Ross.
Eminems songs have a value that doesn't lie in the harmony.
Where Bach drags out emotions from tones and chords elaborately designed, Eminem is capable of doing something similar using his words. I don't think either are inferior. Here, simple is not an insult.
I'll take this to a third form of art. You can make an excellent dish with artfully seared wagyu steak and toast, or by controlling the chemical composition and temperature of a mango purèe on some fine chocolate... Or whatever. I'm also not a chef.
Eminems topics may be more complicated than you may believe. The desire to hurt someone you love? The deepest, darkest, fleeting thoughts that some of us have; are we monsters for them? Or is it the natural human condition?
@@harleygarrett8063 Yeah, golden fleece like "When I go out, I'm gonna go out shootin', I don't mean when I die, I mean when I go to the club stupid". Roll over, Beethoven.
Call me an old fuddy duddy, but I think there might be more poetic ways to express the anger at those that you love than "Bleed, bitch, bleed". Call me crazy.
“I’m trying to have an adult conversation”
“Jazz is just *insert trumpet mouth sounds*”
he made me lol for real honestly kudos to him there that ad homenim was funny af. doot dooorurururururut. decades of jazz in shambles.
@@ElDrHouse2010 hahaha same. Stupidity can be both scary and hilarious.
Jimmy Schitz I thought he was making horse sounds
@@ElDrHouse2010 "decades of jazz in shambles" lmaooooooooooo
46:41
When he said “Jazz is a bastardization of the waltz” I had a stroke
He would have been correct if he said it was derivative of classical music, but of course Destiny isn't gonna bring that up because it shits on his argument
Hobo Frodo didn’t destiny also confront that question asking what a derivative would mean when referring to art?
@@Zach0451 classical music was derived from other music. Music didn't just originate with white people so that shits on your argument.
@@theangrycheeto It isn't my argument, and that would presumably help Striker with his point
@@Zach0451 the waltz is a dance..........
Striker: "Stop interrupting me" *raises his voice to interrupt every 10 seconds*
Also Striker: "You're attacking me"... 2 seconds later "Grab your stressball"
This whole thing felt like he's arguing with himself.
people like this are on some schizo /pol/ thread in their mind 24/7
"Why don't you smoke some more weed and calm the fuck down dude!"
Cuckstainy can't help but interrupt, the libqueef/atheist crowd has to sperg 24/7.
waltz is superior to jazz is probably the hottest take I've ever heard
What next that swing is better than Afrobeat?
Lol. Waltz music.
“Classical music is pure logic” 😂😂
@kirkun kirkun the only fucked up people are those that think homo sapiens are biologically monogamous
kirkun kirkun Ok, bot.
Destiny: no you can’t just break down a highly complex music genre into one sound
Striker: haha jazz go brrrrrr
Tis difficult when they always make it up as they go. 🤷🏻♂️
Jazz harmony is really challenging and rewarding. The emotional territory and sonic vistas that open up in jazz through the virtuosity and inventiveness of those performers is ... well lets just say its there for people to appreciate if they take the time to listen to jazz.
@Sebaya Pippen, World-Class Jogger Oh cool what's your favorite kind of music?
@Sebaya Pippen, World-Class Jogger Nice, I've never heard of neo-wave or neo-jazz Neo wave is pretty cool. Have you ever heard of Domi? She's an amazing keyboardist, plays as "DOMi & JD Beck". Seems difficult to me but if you consider it easy I'd love to hear what kinds of chord theory and techniques she's using.
+Sebaya Pippen, World-Class Jogger You definitely don’t play jazz lmao
"lets talk like adults"
"haha jazz go brrrrrr"
Yes.
He spent 3hrs talking to Nazi? What a fucking clown
@@arcarsenal1380 gotta be a troll
Arcarsenal 🤖
tbh thats pretty chad
02:17 Culture -- Music and "high art"
27:10 Economics -- Capitalism and loan interest
58:25 Immigration -- Economic impacts (employment, wages, prices, debt, and a whole mess)
1:37:10 The Jewish Question, foreign policy
"You are pivoting"
"WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING ME PERSONALLY"
Yeah, I actually thought he did attack him but then I realize he really didn't. He just made a little joke, exaggerating how hard he pivoted. Not an ad-hom, right? I can't believe he accused destiny of attacking him lol
35:10
Electric 23 then he later calls Destiny a wigger for saying “dawg”
@@onigengu7846
Mocking and insulting someone technically is still an ad hom but it's only a fallacy if the brunt of the argument or response rests on it, otherwise it's just extremely immature. I don't know how anyone can consider this as a good showing by either side, and it certainly didn't accomplish what debates are intended to accomplish. Destiny gets points not because he did well, but because Striker came in ill prepared, misspoke many times, improperly made his points, and failed to back them up. Both sides were dishonest but Destiny was far more deceitful in his representation of the actual information showing he didn't care about the actual point being made, he just cared about trying to frame Striker as a stupid liar on everything (which Striker made it VERY easy for him to do). His knowledge on many of these subjects was facile at best and he pretended to be an expert by regurgitating the affirmative about how, for example, the Fed and corporate debt operate in a Keynesian theoretical market model while ignoring the real world factors such as sociological impact and limiting factors, the point Striker tried to make but failed to communicate properly (because he obviously didn't prepare due to arrogance and spending his time in an echo chamber). I agree with Striker on his many of his positions which makes it infuriating how poorly he made the cases for them, and how he basically just whined at Destiny instead of using numerous opportunities which were open to him to show how Destiny was arguing in bad faith and missing the big picture (especially with his orthodox neo-liberal views on economics and political interference). The very premises Destiny accepts are wrong and getting into the weeds on many of these subjects was unproductive and painful as a listener. I wish Striker would have either prepared or simply kept his mouth shut.
@@flowerchild8450
Striker sucking ass doesn't mean Destiny did well, but I understand how partisan everyone is nowadays. See my other response if you're actually interested in truth.
22:59 "4/4 beats were common but there were other types of tempo"
As a classical musician I can't tell you how frustrating it is to hear someone who doesnt even know the difference between tempo and time signature argue about how classical music is somehow "superior". This striker dude is a total clown and an insult to all the people who genuinely love classical music for what it is.
God I wanted to kill myself when I heard this! Striker is a fucking clown. Choosing music as a debate for American "whiteness" is so fucking moronic.
Destiny also had retarded takes on classical music though. For example when Eric Striker was arguing that musicians like Limp Bizkit were quick to be forgotten whilst Beethoven stood the test of time really well, he made a legitimate point, and yet it was quickly dismissed by Destiny through the "argument" that nobody cares about Beethoven anymore. Its completely wrong and counterfactual. You hear the works of Beethoven played throughout funerals, large events, religious events, advertisements, film soundtracks, TV show soundtracks, anime soundtracks, and even God damn porn video soundtracks, and at last his 9th symphony was also engraved on the Voyager Golden Record, and so it is certain the man is far from forgotten and will very likely continue to stand the test of time better than most modern musicians.
My opinion: I disagree. I don't think you are on the same page and you've over simplified it, by removing the context: the claims he's actually responding to. Destiny isn't arguing that "Beethoven is literally not apart of culture, full stop." That wasn't the claim he was responding to; he was responding to the claim that classical music is *dominant* in culture. I think that in this specific (stupid, purposefully unhelpful) example the guy chose, he's claiming Beethoven is *as big* as Kanye right now, financially, apart of "high culture" today, etc. (Which is not true.) I think your comment is unfair because it neglects this context. The guy is not just claiming "Beethoven is apart of culture," ..because Beethoven obviously is. This guy is crazy, though.
Therefore, it's trying to apply Destiny's argument to a claim that Destiny wasn't really responding to. That's why it's not a good argument.
The argument is not that Beethoven is not apart of culture.
The argument is that Beethoven is not "high culture" in the sense that it's not *above* modern music. Something I don't know how someone could actually claim. Just look at who is most discussed and paid for by everyone in our culture. .
When it comes to the industry, of course people are still making a living playing classical music. But, as someone who actually has experience in it, people aren't turning out to support many orchestras playing Beethoven. It's honestly insulting to struggling classical musicians. People aren't buying Beethoven anymore, that's the facts. Beethoven is played in the background of scenes and events, yes. (Remember that his music is free, that's also important.)
Other factor:
None of us know how well known Beethoven will be after everyone who is alive right now has died. Same with other music, or anything alive today. Tangent, but "Timelessness" is not a solid foundation for any argument, imo. I've started trying to avoid it. It's just too risky, because anything can happen.
(To be clear, again, I do think of course classical music is a huge part of culture. But, it's not competing with modern music on the same stage.)
Those are my thoughts. Now that I've watched hours of this conversation, my brain is scrambled. So I might honestly be mistaken about what was going on. (I'm also trying to not trigger/offend anyone by sounding like I'm offended.)
@@sorryifoldcomment8596 you are arguing against a point which I didn not make. I did not state anything about the financial or societal success of Beethoven's music, but rather that it is far from forgotten, which was the original claim Destiny had made which angered me. Weirdly enough even he himself went on to say that Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 14 was played everywhere, backtracking on his original fallacious claim.
@@XQQ-qm8ow i assume most of you have seen it but check out adam neely’s video on music theory and white supremacy to see why that might be.
Imagine this guy running on a treadmill with an ipod filled with Beethoven and military marches
Imagine believing there's no difference between Beethoven and Xxxtentacion
@@Octavian2 no one believes that, and no one was making such specific comparisons
What's wrong with having military marches on your Iphone?
@@based344 nothing at all! It's totally healthy and not in any way a sign of some sort of psychopathology. March on!
@@meddlesomemusic Are you assuming it's for psychopaths?
Striker not understanding why unemployment can't be 0% is a good clip to summarize this entire debate.
wait why can’t it
@@asai3132because if you start a new business and you want to hire workers, you want someone out there to be looking for jobs.
@@asai3132 also, to add on to the other guys explanation, if unemployment is 0% that means you are stuck with your current job for life. Even if its a job you hate and want to game end due to. This is because since unemployment is 0, every other job in society is more or less fulfilled. It would be trying to find a needle in a haystack to find any kind of vacant position. 0% is bad for employers, and bad for employees. There's added stuff like, if every job is fulfilled, then companies would have to keep workers staying at their company not with the interest of work itself, but by competitive wages, and increasing wages would cause an increase in cost of goods for the average consumer since any company would raise the price of their products to make up the difference made in wage increases. As every company raises wages competitively, costs of goods rises, it eventually results in that society being unlivable for anyone who is not well off. I read in a paper that an economy showing 0% or close to it unemployment is "burning alive"
@@boredphilosopher4254Theoretically they can still poach workers from other firms, but it's likely to cause a wage-price spiral where labour is so scarce to retain or gain workers you need to pay more and more, which then causes inflation since everyone has more money without more stuff that money buys, which then makes companies uncompetitive and unable to expand which crashes the economy. In most cases banks overhype how much it plays into inflation but 0% unemployment would make it a very scary reality.
Ultimately it's just going to be for White people...not for the dregs, they get sent back.
Striker: Picks music as an argument for his ridiculous beliefs
Destiny: So you have chosen death
I facepalmed so hard because I'm learning piano myself and the guy faceplanted right out of the gate.
He is dumb. He is saying something is more cultured if it is expensive, completely ignoring simple macroeconomics.
Although this striker guy is a total nutjob and wrong about pretty much everything, I don't think destiny should have said that classical music is boring and that music now is better because we can produce a greater variety of sounds. He should have made the argument that its just subjective so you can't definitively say that one form is better than another. My OPINION is that classical music is much more enjoyable and complex than most forms of modern music.
@@sethjeppson5680 Precisely. It is subjective. Though I think what he meant when he says "it's boring" is that it is not popular with the general public, as other forms of music can be considered (albeit subjectively) more "fun". I think we can agree that most people probably do not go to festivals, clubs, or bars, or even house parties, for classical music. And in regards to the variety of sounds, he probably refers to innovation and creativity. With modern instruments and technology, as well as variations in vocal style and lyrics, new dimensions can be explored, whereas classical music will generally be stagnant. I can certainly appreciate classical music, but to me, it has its place, and that place is not in my record collection. In my opinion, complex/technical music does not necessarily = good, fun, meaningful or creative.
@@dragondynastywarrior506 I think classical era (1750-1800, mozart, haydn, etc.) Is fairly boring. But we often call romantic, baroque, and contemporary music classical. I think those 3, especially romantic, have a lot of variety, unlike classical music
When he started talking about jazz and how it is disorderly i was transported back to the third Reich
Swing kids!
Nice profile pic dawg
@Blood Satellite yeah right, they only had men to vote who weren't slaves. defending this over todays democracy is a intellectual and ethical backflip on the neck
Based Log You need Christ. You are a complete Materialist and it’s infected your mind. Man is more than his flesh.
@@anonamouse2780 You need the bell curve.
Arguing music with Destiny is literally the worst thing he couldve started with
Is destiny a music guy? Also God this guy striker is dumb. "jazz is a JEWDYIZED verison of the waltz"
@@RedAgent2020 Destiny was gonna major in music pretty much until that fell through. It's like the one subject he has concrete background in
@@KantaCrowe one could say that nazboi orchestrated his own demise....
I'll see myself out
Kilroy European culture is boring as shit. I’ll be glad when it’s dead.
@@FriedrichBarb
This happens all the fucking time. Genres die out and something new is popular. Right now it is rap music and before that it was rock.
This also happened in Europe back in the day of classical and shit.
Art and music progresses, just like the rest of society
"Don't call me dawg. What are you, a wigger?"
- Eric "Not a Reflexive Bigot" Striker
Destiny's music degree finally provided some value in this debate
I don't he think has a music degree because he dropped out, but he did major in it so that's why he knows about music.
i know right lol finally
Lol right. .not something really useful for most debate out there except like music theory i guess
@Michael Whitewolf Sorry, but intelligence is not relevant to music taste. What a stupid argument.
@Michael Whitewolf I take it that you're a virtuoso pianist then. Do you have some videos of your solo stuff? Must be really concise and not a mess like jazz.
Striker: *Long ass diatribe of misinformation*
Destiny: *Tries to respond*
Striker: Let's move onto JQ.
These idiots get completely embarassed when they aren't talking over their opponents
@@srikrishnasrivatsan199 I know right?!?
An actual Nazbol. I thought they were a myth
Richard Spencer is a bernie supporting Nazbol now too
its just the title of the vid. nazbols (from russia where it originated are not even racist). he is a nazi national socialist german race worshipper
@@DeadMouse32 wait no fucking way really
Nazbols are just nazis who make the core argument that kicking all the brown people out is necessary to secure worker's rights. The comparative advantage argument that Destiny brings up as rebuttal is a good one because it is not only more parsimonious but also effectively better at achieving Striker's goal than the solution he himself offers, which is why Striker can't pretend to understand it.
@@DeadMouse32 Sources dude, no way that's true
"everyone who has any musical background will find this laughable" 24:05 the guy hit the nail right on the head. literally everything eric says makes my head hurt, he's harder to listen to than grindcore.
That's what blows my mind. Like anybody involved in classical music (Composers, enthusiast, musicians) would literally spit in this dudes face. Most ignorant person I have ever listened too.
grind is the easiest thing to listen to
instrumentally, grindcore is very difficult to preform, especially from a percussion standpoint.
older Iwrestledabearonce and pig destroyer are like some really notable examples of things that only an expert drummer can perform, not like your average "expert" either like a high tier expert
@@Bathrobedwane pretty sure iwrestledabear once is melodic deathmetal not grindcore.
@@degenxayah i dont harp over the sub catagorozation of death metal(s) people like to really bog down for the sake of eleitism but the reality is there isnt many defining characteristics that separate iwrestledabearonce from cannibal corpse, yes they have some melodic sections, but most of it is grim screaming with crazy guitar and drums, the genre(s) gets pretty advance the more you deviate from the orgin point and all of it is pretty difficult to perform instrumentally
No order to jazz music!?!? This dude has never studied any music. What a stupid take.
@@ChildOfTheLie96 truth
@@ChildOfTheLie96 Hardly. Adorno - key member of the Frankfurt School - detested Jazz in all its manifestations.
This blew my mind. What a stupid human being. He's stupid and arrogant at the same time. Its a very bad combination.
Bring jazz isn't a strictly a Nazi thing. Everyone her seems to forget that it was considered devil's music for a LONG time in the US
Tell me about it. An idiot actually thinks jazz music has simpler harmonies than a waltz.
The fact that striker says "4 over 4" instead of just "4 4" shows that hes never actually talked to a musician before Destiny
under rated comment
or even just "in 4," 4 is implied 4 4
Nice catch, very true
Or "common time"
it isnt "4 4", it's "4 by 4".
"Jazz is a bastardization of the Waltz"
I can't wait to pull out that line in my Jazz class.
i choked on air when i heard that.
I'd wait til April 1st for that one.
Most jazz isn’t even in 3 wtf
The dude you think Progressive/Socialists/Feminist arguments are better?
The dude is a typical Progressive.
He is just a Differently Progressive!!
i still wonder WHY he said that. is it because of the name? because other than that there's really nothing in common.....jazz is closer to salsa than to waltz.....
I love how striker talked over destiny like 10 times before destiny started doing it back, then striker started wining about it and the host decided to back him up.
Striker: "Classical music is High Culture™"
Destiny: "What is High Culture™?"
Striker: "Classical Music"
Aristotle would be proud.
Got em there.
Damn dude wants to take art back a 100 plus years lmao.
All these notes make a circle
I love you for the trademarks holy fuck
Striker: “The Trickle-down theory of economics is a lie perpetuated by the wealth elite”
Me: :D
Striker: “Which also legitimizes the argument to deport all Jews, who ARE the wealth elite”
Me: D:
Man, take the redpill already
@@thestrongprevail3039 not a conservative but you wouldn't know that
Horseshoe confirmed.
@@thestrongprevail3039 The redpill is total nonsense. Literally nothing to back up their 'philosophical' claims.
@@NeuKrofta lol
One of Destinys best roasts ever from the 2v2 debate with Vaush still stands:
“Striker Its like you came with a big folder titled research for debate and it was filled with rage comics”
also "if this guy's claiming to speak for europeans, then i guess we might as well be speaking for black people"
This demolishes Destiny’s lies: ruclips.net/video/TCbFEgFajGU/видео.html
My boyfriend has worked in IT all his life. He’s been the only white dude of 2/3 in his companies of all Indians and a bit of Filipinos for 2 decades now. Destiny is such a lying joke.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 cool story bro
@@parsifal2299
Another cool story is that Steven had to go to the Emergency Room and orthodontic surgeon right when this debate ended to get the bottom half of his jaw sewn back on. He was tripping so bad on being caught in all his bullshit and lies that his Adderall finally swung that shit right off when the camera turned off. Jesus Christ, even his eyes were swinging everywhere. What an embarrassing bullshitting tooI.
Hearing how difficult it is for Striker to explain his ideas almost makes me feel sorry for him
Honestly, the dude sounds like his brain is a vegetable.
True, he needs adderall like cuckstainy
The RAW POWER behind these arguments. "Jazz is all prrrrorororor,pralilu,pralili". Unbeatable arguments, made of steel...
ew loki player.
@Butter Brickle "I don't understand so it's bAd"
@Da'Rellus Jarvis Marquavius "i never listened to jazz so it sucks"
"WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING ME PERSONALLY? I want to have an adult conversation"
"Get your girlfriend to change your nappy"
What a juggernaut guys.
Intellectual heavyweight
* makes trumpet sounds *
"I understand you want to hprhpRHPRHPRHORRAK but..."
This place is as retarded as it gets... not understanding how to debate without personal attacks.
@@o74769 I mean, striker resorted to personal attacks first because he doesn't understand the difference between attacking an argument and a person, and got very offended.
Striker: "Why do we need the government injecting the banks with money?"
Destiny: "If..."
Striker: "YOU'RE NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTION, ANSWER THE QUESTION!!"
Destiny: "If the..."
Striker: "WHY IS IT SO HARD TO JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION, STOP ATTACKING ME! I'M UNDER A LOT OF STRESS RIGHT NOW, I'M GONNA CALL YOUR MANAGER!!"
lm fing ao
Nazi Karen!
5 minutes later.. Dono: "why does destiny keep interrupting striker?"
@@skilifavas4016 kinda redundant :P
Being a nazbol is the political equivalent of wearing the dunce hat. His arguments were essentially ”durr jazz not high culture because me defines high culture as classical music and stuffs like this” and ”why don’t these big banks do things better for da people in the intuitive way (his own words) I prefer??”
Striker: Says something
Destiny: Explains that thing
Striker: Stop being disingenuous. You know what I mean.
Destiny: Yeah I'm explaining it to you because youre using it incorrectly.
Striker: Be an adult. Agree with me, or you are baby.
Don't forget
Striker: you wouldn't dare to speak to me like that IRL punk
1:56:30 Destiny needs to grow up
Nazi starts acting like a child, good one
Preposterous Altercation what personal insults ??? Destiny mentioned his points and arguments
Rick Astley You can reverse it too and Destiny looks almost as dumb somehow at the end of the debate.
@@Malik_Maverick 46:30 Destiny: You're making retarded points that keep getting struck down and you move onto something else
Striker: WHOA WHOA WHOA why are you being so mean where is your CIVILITY
Striker just sounds like someone who's trying to rationalize their racism after the fact. He builds his arguments from the top down, but when he reaches the bottom it has no foundation.
ding ding ding!
Just here to say that was a damn good comment. Big props.
Alt-right in a nutshell.
Confirmation bias is the foundation for all racist arguments.
I've heard this referred to as table legging
"Anime fans wouldn't tell you to watch Evangelion again over and over again"
That's literally the worst example you could've given
Yeet
Tri watching it, meh.
FMA brotherhood though, damn.
Early seasons of attack on Titan? Holy shit.
@@MikeTall88
The fuck? The latest season of Attack on Titan is the best one.
I've watched it like 6 times, cause I didn't really get it till the 3rd
Bakesterbaker Eren is the most based AOT character, in the manga he wants to purge the world of all non-Eldians due to the fact that they want to exterminate his race, pretty based
Destiny's finest hour
I've rewatched this half a dozen times already, and i'll be revisiting it for years to come.
Heyyyy its your time, right now, to comeback and re-watch the debate.
I just did lol
Why would you put yourself thru such torture?(im rewatching if for the 3rd time)
Bro you could not pay me to re-listen to almost 2 hours of this Striker dude.
bro you watched a 2 and a half hour internet debate 6 times?
him getting angry at destiny calling him "dawg" was one of the quietest dog whistles I have heard in a long time.
Ha not only that, destiny says that to everyone
dawg whistles
how is it a dog whistle? I like genuinely dont know lol
Andy M bc black people call eachother dog.. and he got mad bc he doesn’t want destiny treating him like a black person?
@Thumos Aeterna but who actually cares
Jazz is Judaized waltz? WTF. I seemed to have underestimated the Jewish character of early 20th century black America.
Pretty sure every time Striker cuts himself with the file while doing his nails he thinks the jews did it
When he said that I audibly laughed out loud, your comment was congruent with what I thought.
Lmao.
Yeah. We were responsible for Jazz all along
There is a truth to that, as a lot of Jazz and Swing musicians were Jewish
The piano is a lower derivative of the harpsichord
The letter V is a lower derivative of the letter F.
TRUE
W is a lower derivative of VV
Everything is a lower derivative of smashing sticks against rocks.
@@Daniel-qc7be
Beat me to it, i feel we could have granulated this idea a little more but you jumped right to the logical conclusion. :)
Listening to this again, the most troubling part of this is that Striker seems to genuinely believe that he has 'seen the truth'; you can hear it in how frustrated he is that Destiny knows more about the topics than he does. He's not a grifter pretending to be a hateful asshole to make money, he buys into his own rhetoric, and that's terrifying.
True grifters are extremely hard to find. Most of them buy into their bullshit
He's not pretending to be an asshole, he's only pretending to care about the well being of society.
@@simulatrix Destiny is a prime example of someone who buys into their own bullshit
Its not suprising to me to see someone who has no perspective to come to such a state of dissociation. He is like a scared and confused child wandering through the world afraid of anyone and anything he doesnt know.
The most frustrating part is how excited he gets when they finally get to the JQ where you can hear in his voice how authoritative he feels while spewing incoherent sentence after nonsense paragraph...
Bro dude is trying to make his opinion on music objective... wtf
well they were objective, objectively wrong
Chukwu it was so infuriating. He was using loaded language and acting as though it was objectively true. I wanted to die
That's not even it. He has NO IDEA what he's talking about when it comes to music/theory. But then again, that's usually the case with the neo-nazis/alt-right/etc.
Its not even his opinion, hes just trying to make what he think "white culture" is into the supreme way of making music compared to other cultures, so he can have an excuse to ship brown people out of the country.
@Preposterous Altercation "white music" lulw, talking about generalizing.
“Jazz is a judaised waltz” is the wildest thing I’ve ever heard in a RUclips debate 😭
I'm pretty sure it's just a quote out of Mein Kampf. At least it sounds like that.
@@christophzeit6282 quite ironically, hitler enjoyed a few jazz musicians. guess theres a degeneracy paradox lmao
@@user-vc7ur1hd2s - That's interesting. Nazis banned jazz, but it wouldn't surprise me if Hitler violated his own ban. It's known that Eva Braun violated the ban, and had a huge collection of American jazz records that she and Albert Speer would listen to.
I know right?!?
just straight up talking out of his ass hahah
18:14
ＷＨＡＴ ＡＲＥ ＹＯＵ ＣＡＬＬＩＮＧ ＭＥ ＤＯＧ ＦＯＲ， ＢＲＯ？
thetrashslingingasher *Dawg*
Word yo
It's a good ole fashioned Bro-down!
Destiny should've responded with, "What are you calling me bro for, dawg?"
the dog whistle was real
As someone who works in finance for large institutions, I’m actually really impressed by Destiny’s understanding of the banking system. It appears as though he can speak nearly as fluently as many people in industry. You can tell he’s actually really well read, maybe even past the undergraduate finance/econ level.
As someone who’s a financial retard any books I should read to smarten up?
@@MainerMMA Freakonomics and The Underground Economist are two good books that won't bore the fuck out of you. Wealth of Nations is considered a must-read, obviously, but goddamn is it boring.
Striker is the physical embodiment of the "I was born in the wrong generation" comments on 80's music videos
Gold
Everything old is good everything modern is bad. That's his tastes to the t
@@Black_pearl_adrift
Modernity is trash though, nobody actually disputes that. Everyone has a gripe against it.
@@22andxi3 lol nah it's a part of human nature to think right now sucks. So people in the 1800s probably thought their values might be the worst it could get. The only time period kn the west where this kight not be true is like the enlightenment, and even that had TONS of detractors. Every generation will have people who go "wow we sure did have better ideas x amount of years ago".
@@Black_pearl_adrift
I'm not talking about ideological relativity, I'm talking about objective facts which have never occurred throughout human history. People denying biological reality to the point they don't even know what they are, so they make shit up or pretend to not notice any differences. "Food" that is processed to the point of becoming poisonous to the body, that is grown in chemicals which strip the topsoil and destroy the ecosystem, from seeds whose DNA is patented and owned and produces sterile crop in neighboring plants. Consuming "culture" that is as poisonous as the food and even more devoid of substance. People that blindly accept whatever is told to them by an "expert" or news source, yet fail to ever read the actual data or studies on the subject, opting for popsci articles instead. Mindlessly staring into electronic gadgets which are monitored, to view sites where information is controlled or censored by algorithms , to find answers to questions they don't even fully understand. Becoming a wage slave to buy meaningless stuff, to pay taxes to corrupt politicians while being fleeced by a private for-profit central bank, and giving up the freedom of all so they can feel safe from a threat their phone told them to worry about. Meanwhile they are too busy being snarky, consuming, and justifying the beliefs they were programmed with to see any of this, or who might actually be benefiting from it.
Yeah, it's probably just human nature....
lmao I love that this started off with them non-ironically arguing about whether or not jazz is legitimate music
Striker likely has a problem with jazz, because Henry Ford said that the Jews invented it by introducing seductive bending notes to corrupt the youth. I gotta admit, I love me some bendy notes in my music!
TheLacedaemonian300 look at the curves on those things...
Hey Graham! I love seeing another cuber in the comments.
bobbyfearfactor woah! Haha hey 👋
NormalStyleCrew because it’s hilarious
This guys argument boils down to "people who don't like the music I like don't have culture"
mona s striker is probably boring as fuck I would gather. He’s the type of person that listens to classical music just to trick people into thinking his personality has substance
@@codybarlik4524 Nazi hipster, got it.
NCR Ranger more so a nazi poser. He’d be a hipster if he was listening to music before it was cool, not 200 years after it used to be
Dude. He does NOT like classical music. He just thinks it helps his bullshit argument.
@@mystereee1479 that's 100% my thoughts. I sincerely doubt he listens to classical.
He probably listens to some variation of dad metal. Hell, it's more likely that he just doesn't listen to music than it is that he listens to classical.
“Some BLACK guy-“ The fact that he not only specified, “black,” but said it with such disdain in his tone was pretty gross.
The persons literal youtube channel is SomeBlackGuy. You are reading into this too much.
@@RanEncounter hes not talking about a youtuber
@@hayhorca915 In the video he definitely is. Seriously did you not watch the video? SomeBlackGuy was literally commenting on the events talked about in this video. What are you doing?
This guy shot himself in the face 30 seconds in
in this debate
In a video game
Allegedly
@@janos6644 he's doing it because for the last two years, it's brought floods of alt righters to his channel first to troll him, then you end up getting him linked more and more.
Then something will sink in at some point... And he's got them back on the left!
I can't believe people still don't get it yet? It happens constantly lol.
Scientific approach is bullshit.
People like people being owned.
People are quite simple minded.
People like sweet shop owners not doctors. Science doesn't matter to the people dest is trying to reach
He's not making content for lefties.
Same as contra so stop getting upset if they're not left enough for you
You're not the target! Go watch mike from pa or some shit if you want someone just preaching to the converted?
Jack Gates are you joking right now? Lmfao
This was painful to listen to. I understand why Destiny lost it a few times.
Stupid drags on a lot of patience of people
Striker: "Jazz is atonal"
Destiny: The wrath of all gods has been unleashed upon you.
"youre pivoting so hard youre about to tear your ACL" made me fucking cry.
Symphony tickets aren’t expensive because of demand. They are expensive to recoup their losses, and they have to take donations to stay afloat.
They hire a hundred musicians per show.
So brainless
Also, I think that as mostly just old rich people like it, they can easly charge more without losing the little clientele they actually have so they can stay afloat
I remember when i was in Vienna their famous opera house needs to be subsidized by the city because it can't afford to sufficiently run alone.
@@xavi.cat.4095 "mostly just old rich people" meaning old rich pretentious white people with inflated ego whose only reason to attend these syphonies is to flex their wealth and "high-cultured taste"
"This music is better because its high culture"
"what is high culture"
"high culture is classical music"
And jazz musicians and composers aren’t? Taylor Swift and Kanye West and hundreds of musicians from the past century will be well known centuries later too.
C I R C U L A R L O G I C
@Scott Mamby And the reason is?
High culture is culture I enjoy. If you disagree, you're an uncultured rube.
@Scott Mamby only uncultured swine believe that.
eric: "just because something is profitable under capitalism doesn't mean it's real culture"
eric literally 2 seconds later: "classical music is better because tickets sell out at 60-70 dollars"
Crazy huh?!?
Destiny should've hammered him on the 60-70 dollars remark, because getting a ticket to a Eillish concert or BTS concert which instantly sells out costs magnitudes more than a ticket to an opera house.
@@tristisludos who? i'm sorry but they just play noises from their computer book. that's not real art.
@@JackPorter Lol, what is art? Define art
@@Issthi fart
I am genuinely impressed that Destiny manages to keep any composure in conversations like this. This guy doesn't engage on anything and just spouts a bunch of nonsense talking points.
Without composure he would not be able to win any debate. I think he had to learn that the hard way, what he has become makes sense. I don't think it's that impressive, or is it impressive that a guy can bench 150kg after years in the gym?
This guy took an absolute nose dive as soon as he brought up music.
You mean his first point lol
Sean Gallagher I think that’s the point lmao
“Windows is crap is because Indians make it” that’s a hilariously stupid thought
Anyone Whatever I am unsure what is dumber, that, or Destiny when asked to look at the Evidence of the Holocaust he said he will not buy a book, might as well not use facts this debate.
Lucid Doggo there was no "lie" when he told him, destiny just said He won't buy the book, what was the point of him asking him to explain if he was not even going
to listen...
fluoxy L. Ngl this is a stupid point , who is to judge what counts as a work on the level of Shakespeare this is arbitrary and opinionated and not a valid way to compare the countries
@@janos6644 i study comp sci related stuff, 99% of classes use unix
@@janos6644 Windows is actually pretty bad. Not totally unusable. Each version just accumulates protective measures until it slows down. I use Linux. I could use Windows. It's not hard. And compatibility sucks because Microsoft uses tactics to get devs to make stuff for it. It's actually not as bad as it used to be thanks to Microsoft joining open source, and Steam for games. But they did a lot of shady shit back in the day like spurious intellectual property suits, and scare tactics about open source software to keep devs away from making stuff on Linux.
Not that I agree with Striker. He's full of shit.
"Pivoting so hard you're going to tear your ACL." absolutely killed me
Also The other time when he said he hopes striker had good healthcare just in case he twists his neck from reaching so hard
Striker saying 1930's Germany listening to more old music than jazz was not a natural change. The Nazis made it illegal to distribute jazz in any form.
''The fastest way to become a millionaire in the U.S is to start by being a billionaire and buy an airline''. That was so POG!
It's a quote from Richard Branson, the owner of Virgin
I love how many of this guys arguments are him just asking a question because he has no idea how something works and then destiny just gives him a real answer and he’s like “oh”
“That’s not high culture!”
Remember, art is only art if it is deemed as such by European aristocrats from the 18th and 19th centuries.
Stupid, huh?!?
@Tollahvision - The Ayatollah no
What’s funny is Eric Striker listens to raw black metal, which has to be the antithesis of musical high culture.
@Tollahvision - The Ayatollah Nope. I said nope so I win.
@Tollahvision - The Ayatollah
Metal and rap will never be anything than low culture lmao literal barbarian sounds you only just deny it because they're pale nords and not ugly dark skinned flat nosed people.
Destiny was right. The dude doesn't want to debate, he wants a solo podcast.
Striker just sounds like a guy who memorized a bunch of talking points without understanding a single thing of what he's talking about
Bro he read some nazis ranting about jazz music back in the 1930s and now he cant stop talking about it.
Why have arguments when you have L A R P
That's what reactionaries are
He sounds like Oswald Bates.
Yep!
Lmao, this guy tried to challenge Destiny on music theory
"I'm not just gonna attack him on his home turf. I'm gonna walk into his house and argue with him while he's sitting on a jeweled throne. That'll get me the win."
I thought that was going to be the worst of it too... then he started talking about economics...
@Infantryman, Airborne hahaha haha, it's not just me, but the entire internet is laughing at you
@Infantryman, Airborne eurocentric nonsense
@@BioChemistryWizard no he literally said he had to drop out of college because he was poor. Nice try though dumbass
Calling Jazz a simplified version of Waltz has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone say about music
He actually uses the term “bastardization” as if many forms of what he likely considers high culture are not bastardizations of other forms of art. The Opera, which he shills for in the video, was considered a low and peasantry form of art when it first started.
@@johnfowler3125 He thinks its a bastardization because it was made by blacks.
it sounds like a talking point he heard from ben shapiro and couldn't wait to repeat it
It's so mind-boggling. I want to pull up the sheet music for waltzes and sheet music for jazz pieces for him. He should immediately see the difference in complexity. Rant: I mean, quite literally, waltzes are simple. Fewer notes and an even tempo. Like, people don't dance in pairs to complicated jazz, because dancing is not simple.
Everything he said about classical music and jazz music and music theory was so wrong and I enjoyed knowing Destiny was thinking the same thing/also a music major. Striker didn't think about any of this, how embarrassing. He seems to know a lot more about Kanye, is that ironic.
I'm sad I missed this video, because I have so many things I want to laugh about. :(
@@johnfowler3125 there's literally been like twelve different points in time where opera was shunned for being too "low brow" and was called to return back to the high art form of the ancient Greeks, like it's literally been the art form for the common man for CENTURIES, only recently is it considered "high brow"
I never agree with Destiny on all of his takes/world views but DAMN he is one of the best debaters and his way of clarifying positions/takes/ideas is unmatched. This was a hilarious bloodbath to watch h
He reads, thats all. One difference compare to every other “political creator” on RUclips
@@laxjsdo you think part of it is also that he’s been doing this for a long time so he’s more knowledgeable because of that?
You guys are insane Destiny is unbelievably bad faith and annoying, can’t even find Egypt on a fucking map why would I take someone like that seriously. And looking shit up in the middle of debates. He just wants to win on technicalities, cares nothing about the truth.
Jesus Christ as a jazz musician I am deeply embarassed by this guy's ignorance.
Saaaammmee
Jesus Christ as a classical musician I am deeply embarrassed by this guy's ignorance.
@@CoachDitka "jazz is a bastardization of the waltz". To unironically believe this, you have to be COMPLETELY ignorant of the fundamental characteristics of.........everything
@@MatthewBanks100 Also claiming that Jazz is bad and unstructured because they just "make it up as they go." Of course this guy commenting on the high culture of classical music has no clue what "realization" and "figured bass" are, or the fact that improvisation has literally always been an important aspect of western music. But like Destiny said, these people view classical music as like a museum exhibit rather than actual fluid and dynamic artistic expression.
@@CoachDitka Exactly! Beethoven played a 40 minute improvisation before debuting his 5th symphony. Mozart was fucking FAMOUS for his ability to improvise/spontaneously compose. This guy is the worst kind of snob.
If Dunning-Kruger effect was a person
@Shawn Brink You might want to go to a video about funny cats instead it that comment was too much for you to understand, just watching out for you buddy
@Shawn Brink nice I wasn't expecting that to really work thanks for the entertainment
Shawn Brink lol chill out
@Shawn Brink lost this debate
@Shawn Brink everything you have said in this reply section was unoriginal because it was carefully orchestrated by me
Ah yes, "going to the opera", clearly something Americans do all the time... lmfao
Aveon Flyer I don’t even see the appeal of going to the opera besides trying to look rich. It seems boring as fuck.
Your missing the point that white people want to go to all of the opera but DA JUICE ARE STOPPING THEM ok? #prokofiev
@@kalinsimovski5081 the funniest part of him bringing up soviet composers were that they were essentially held at gunpoint to create nationalistic propaganda music, literally the most brain dead response possible.
By americans he clearly means "White". We are talking about a dumbfuck Nazi.
@@ko6zap1 I'm not sure it's more brain dead than the capitalism killed Mozart argument tbh. It takes a special kind of effort to be so aggressively ignorant of European social structures and history
Calling whole entire genres like jazz, rock, hip-hop, pop, etc... "not music" is the most idiotic and elitist thing someone could do. The richness and diverse texture of these genres should never be overstated just because they are "contemporary". I am willing to bet 300 years from now, the nazbols of the future will say that their music is not "real music" like how Frank Sinatra, Tupac and Hetfield were.
Let's be real; Nazi's lost a long time ago.
no way
If trump wins in 2020 is it still considered a loss for Nazis?
Nazis run the country and white supremacists/nationalists are growing wtf are you talking about.
@Preposterous Altercation
Do you have any proof of that or is this just Jewish Question conspiracy stuff? Also even if that were true someone should tell the self proclaimed Nazis who support Trump because they seem convinced he's working in their interests.
1Nostrand1 is there any proof that Trump is Zionist? Lmao. He constantly shills for Israel and has been the most pro-Israeli president in history. He also let his daughter marry a Jew and has Jews all around his office like Kushner.
Striker: "Jazz has no order"
Every jazz musician ever: "false"
Also his entire point about symphonies is so incorrect I want to die. I grew up playing in symphonies, was a touring violinist and actually used to work with my city's symphony.
Your city's symphony consists of a minimum of 51 musicians, more likely bumping up to 100. They on average can play two shows a week, with a gap between June-September. So about sixty shows. Plus each show at this point for various reasons requires an out of town guest musician too. So the reason tickets are so much is that they barely break even (Almost every symphony does have government subsidies) since there's so many people involved.
@@Twelvecarpileup His pivot on high art form to what sells on the radio is so self contradicting. Not to mention that in NY people will pay HUNDREDS of dollars to see Lincoln Center Jazz performances tbe same way opera enthusiaists do. He's cherry picking his arguments so much he needs to give up and play animal crossing
@@AllenHavens_sax well he is a self proclaimed "neo nazi".
My first thought when I heard that was "Even free-form Jazz has some structure wtf is with this guy?"
His misconception is pretty understandable, though blatantly false. Failed music major here like destiny, specifically studied Jazz Saxophone. Jazz is often played against order, or what is expected, but not only is it therefore first based in order so it can play against that established order, but it most certainly builds and has it's own order. Dissonant and unexpected notes, while against the original developed order of musical theory, are still designed to evoke a response in the listener, and simply play off of a different and more subconscious form of music.
To an extent, improvisational music, jazz, and players like Jimi Hendrix, use the fact that what they're playing doesn't have a previously agreed upon meaning to make a more meaningful dialogue between performer and audience. Because the musical statements are formed off the top of the head, and are non-standard and less explored, their emotional response is more unique, intriguing, and engaging.
I'm so happy that Destiny gives big ups to John Coltrane. The words 'artistic genius' get used lot but it is completely the case with such a master as John Coltrane. And a gentle soul too.
I don't even know who that is 🗿
@@daMillenialTrucker look him up. He was an amazing, world class saxophone player
Literally every single point Striker made about music just shows he has absolutely no education in the music field whatsoever.
Nazbol is an actual thing, I thought it was a joke ideology, next you’re gonna tell me anarcho monarchism is real
Yep, it's the dumbest of both worlds
Zerg Man To be fair tho, left wing exonomic policies and right wing social policies are possible to mix. Unlike Anarcho monarchism which directly contradicts one another.
@@TechnoLion1 @Zerg Man True, it can be done. And has been done. A lot: libcom.org/library/investigation-red-brown-alliances-third-positionism-russia-ukraine-syria-western-left
Zerg Man how does that work?
As the jreg legends foretold
“NooooooOoOoO you cannot like Jazz music!!!!!!! It’s not even good! There’s no rhythm!!!!” “Hehe Jazz machine go durururururuttututututubrbrbrbrbrbrb”
Modern day music is a bastardization of bashing rocks together.
Ok ben shapiro
Impressively boomer opinion
Matter of opinion
Stfu
Exactly I wish someone would've said that
erik striker is the perfect villain against destiny
-Wants the most radical communist command economy
-an alt-right conservative social structure
-and he believes jazz as well as modern music is the cause of the degredation of culture
Striker should get an award for the smoothest brain in the world. Holy fuck how did i survive this without dying from radiation poisoning.
good work soldier
LOL!
3 whole hours of torture.
god why did i lose 3 hours of sleep over this that was not worth it
You mistyped the name. By “Striker,” you meant “Destiny”/Steven.
"Why can't we talk like people"
"Jazz go brrrrbrrrrbrrrr"
Sir Lord Mister Eric from Striker: brings up music
Steven Kenneth "Destiny" Bonnell II: "Swa thou hath embraced demise."
Destiny: *Brings up valid point*
Striker: "Okay, okay, let's talk about this like adults."
he cant handle being wrong
worst performance from a Nazi since Stalingrad.
@@Wat450???
Define"Nazi" please.
@@LEVER0100 a dumbass holding onto a shitty outdated political idea which does not work in the modern world.
@@Wat450 you're right the real nazis were even bigger fails
@@briennethemaid
The Soviets you're cheering on would've sent you to the gulag.
The reason why a classical concert is so expensive is because you need like atleast 50 musicians to play any opera
If you pay a hundred bucks per ticket the musicians still can barely survive
I was literally thinking this too. Why wasn't that brought up lol
Mostly donors keep symphonies alive (at least in the US) and not ticket sales.
@@BimLanders
In Germany this is basically done via taxes and a media fee (which is supposed to support culture that isn't commercially viable or has a greater social good).
Truth is dude don't know shit about music or it's production.
Imagine not liking one of the best genres of music ever created just because it was made by black people. LOL
Sounds exactly like conservative americans since the times of slavery.
@@Potatotenkopf very brain dead statement you've got here....
@Tony Montana well you're a fool and so is meep, because if you know your history you'd know that the Confederate Separatists were Democrats and were in favor of slavery and Abraham Lincoln and the Republican Conservatives were the Union. So no, it's actually what the Democrats thought during the time of slavery and what many in the Democrat beurachracy still think. Get bodied noob.
@@darktooth3563 nothing says historical illiteracy than comparing the democrats of back then to the ones now. Antiracists took over the party, thats why racists like you are republican
I know right!
Striker heard Take 5 once and was like "I can't count high enough to figure out the time signature, this is pure chaos".
LOL
Everyone is laughing at Nazbol until there is someone unironically defending it
Nazbols are retarded lol, they manage to simultaneously bastardize right wing and left wing ideology and unironically refer to themselves as third positionists while having the self awareness of a rock on the enlightenment origins of nationalism and bolshevism alike
David Barnes You know how people make fun of the Ben Shapiros who try to pin Hitler as a socialist? That’s basically you
I'm still laughing tbh. Just harder
@@CrasterFamily I hope you're trolling because that's the most disgustingly retarded take I've read in a while
nazbols are better than nazis to be honest
"Ppl dont listen to rock music."
"Ppl do listen to rock."
"Why are you being so pedantic?"
Also:
"This poll shows that Americans don't support Israel."
"That is not what the poll says. You are a liar."
"WHY ARE YOU LEVERAGING SO MANY PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST ME???"
@Scott Mamby Same sex marriage was supported by 60% of americans in May 2015, it was passed in June 2015. It increased drastically over the (few) years just prior to it being passed.
@Scott Mamby So if a mayority of people in your city were against you marrying, the city should actually not allow you to marry. That's how democracy is suposed to work, right?
@Scott Mamby I didn't ask you your opinion on gay marriage, I asked you if the goverment denying you marriage if a mayority of people oposed to it is how democracy works.
Man, you guys are alergic to having real discussions outside your talking points, huh?
@Scott Mamby why should someone in whyoming be prevented from marrying a man if they want to. Can't bring up how you detest democracy yet are fine with state governments making these decisions. Why not take the position of most liberty and allow people freedom to choose.
I didn't know people were unironically Nazbols, I thought Jpeg made it up.
Did you mean jay greg?
@@OscarMor5678 I've heard it's pronounced Garage
@@Nigel-nv3lr derreg
Bruh. The Strasserist and National Bolshevik movement were painfully real things
It's pronounce Jerry G
Anything brown bad, anything white good. These arguments sadden me as a minority in America.. also, as a pianist, some of the most complex chords can be found in Jazz. Jazz songs have structure and Jazz improv doesn’t.
Destiny: I’m ending the lefty arc
Destiny:
Destiny: I’m gonna do what’s called a “pro-gamer move”
what does this have to do with the lefty arc?
@@MrAntiVision It's a nazbol, with is this weird bastard child experiment between socialists and nazis, and can not be put well into the system of "left" and "right" wing.
I think that's more the fault of the faulty system, but that's why the joke works.
3 dimensional political compass time
@jaca van heesch No nazbols are anti-centrist watch Jreg dude
@@SIGSEGV1337 tsk only 3,lets bring this shit to 9 d
Eric Striker does such a disservice to classical music, first of all, the idea that classical concerts are more expensive than other shows is just wrong, most concert halls give rush tickets and cheap tickets for 10-15 dollars, and not only that, but there are many giveaways to students and elderly people to get them to see shows for free. At the same time, last year, the San Francisco Symphony did a side by side with Metallica, and most tickets were over 150 dollars, and yet they were completely sold out, even though most San Francisco Symphony shows aren’t. I don’t agree that classical music is boring or that we as a culture have moved on, but rather, opinions like these do so much damage to the genre, most people won’t even give it a chance. Most classical musicians, myself included, don’t think that classical music is any better than any other music, just as Destiny said. Rather, that classical music is of a different genre entirely: there are many people writing and performing classical music today, if the namesake only acts as a way to suggest age, then how can people still be writing in the style? John Adams, Arvo Pärt, Philip Glass, Steve Reich, David Conte, Eric Ewazen, all of these people and many more, are still writing and performing in this style. On top of that, his idea that classical is better, does so much harm to the genre, especially his ideals of Wagner, in that, many of us are trying to get rid of the idea that classical music is “better” or “more refined”, as it deters many people from the genre entirely. I may not agree with some of Destiny’s takes, as I love Mozart and Haydn and would argue for their greatness to be played. However, I and all my colleagues would never suggest that it should be held on a pedestal, especially for the reason that he provides and points to, that being that European culture is somehow superior to any other. Honestly, there is so much more I could say, but I think I’ve said enough. However, I would love the chance to talk to Destiny about how he feels about classical music, as I think there is a discourse that Eric Striker just completely missed.
i very much want to see you talk to destiny
I've said this already but his argument is the equivalent of saying "Macs are better than PCs because they're more expensive. "
i feel like erik has absolutely no knowledge on classical music
@@i_sulfat He doesn't. He making mistakes a 3rd grader would have already learned past in music class.
@@i_sulfat bruh this nigga literally said that jazz has no order and that it's atonal i think we established pretty fuckin well that he's musically illiterate as fuck
This must be the new wolfenstein game because in the first 5 mins I see a dead Nazi.
@Based Log Dilate
Define "Nazi".
@I Son if people are gonna throw around the word Nazi, then they should be able to easily define it. So what's the definition?
@I Son yeah that's what I thought. Pathetic.
Actually made me chuckle. Hahah. Some of the burns you twats come up with are pretty good.
Metallica tickets in Los Angeles at the SoFi Stadium ranged from 450 each for nosebleed seats to 9k dollars each for front row. No one is paying 9k to hear a symphony play Wagner.
Also if you've been to a Gwar concert you understand why it's such a better show than classical concerts typically.