Pres. Joko Widodo, Indonesia: Islam and democracy
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- Опубликовано: 26 окт 2015
- Indonesia has two important assets which stabilize and anchor our society: Islam and democracy. We are the largest majority Muslim country, and the world’s third largest democracy. Ours is a strongly moderate and tolerant form of Islam.
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On October 27, the Center for East Asia Policy Studies at Brookings hosted President Joko Widodo of Indonesia for a discussion on the role of Indonesia in the changing world, focusing on economic opportunities and reforms, geopolitics, ASEAN, and international commitments.
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Islam zindabad from india
Yes bro may Allah guide all of us to the straight path Amin
Yes
He struggled with English (at least before) but he can really perform in managing Indonesia
Guud
Ayo pak masuk gorong²🤣
Yeah... we saw during the Ahok trials just how tolerant and democratic Indonesia really is. More like mob justice by religious fanatics
My dear brother Samuel Vimes, thank you for your interest in seeing the development in Indonesia. In regards with the case of Ahok trials, rest assure that Indonesian Government, The Court of Justice is in neither forced nor influence by any external aspects but JUSTICE. In Indonesia, we do have freedom to deliver speech and even demo. Very democratic, indeed. But we also need to be sensitive, respectful and care not to spread hate speech, speech which hurts other people belief of any religion. There is law govern this issue in Indonesia and good for the people and our beloved country with various religions and ethnics. There is no such a thing as "RELIGIOUS FANATICS", there is only "RELIGIOUS PEOPLE". Fanatic means to perform their belief accordingly and corresponding to the lessons in the Holy Book, in my religion the Holy Quran. It teaches nothing but goodness, caring and developing. When moslems really act accordingly to the holy Quran and Sunnah of Muhammad pbuh, rest assure that there is no such a thing as radical or any act that harms humanity and the nature. And I believe that President Jokowi with his Ministries are doing every efforts to motivate each believers of various religions in Indonesia to perform their belief according to what is taught in their own Holy Books, in my case the Holy Quran. Finally, I apologize for any words unacceptable to you. May Allah grant us hidayah. Blessing and Salutation upon Muhammad pbuh. May Allah grant hidayah, ease and success for President Jokowi in managing this truly large, beloved Indonesia.
indonesia allows feedom of speech? Can this be the same Indonesia in which a Christian woman recently recieved an 18 month custodial sentence for blasphemy, merely for commenting that the azaan (Muslim call to prayer) from her local mosque was too loud?
Now, can you imagine the response from the Islamic world, if a Christian majority country were to hand down an 18 month prison sentence to a Muslim woman, simply because she dared to comment that her local church bells were a little bit too loud?
in fact l, it wouldn't surprise me if the offending church were ordered to make a grovelling apology for disturbing the woman and ordered to either reduce the volume until she gave her approval or stop it altogether.
But as we are all aware; it's one rule for Muslims snd another the rest of us infidels.
@Fotrindo mapa buana I agree with you. That's what happens to western society is that they can literally do anything with little to no restrictions. Freedom of speech must be implemented but that doesn't mean we have to abandon religion. In Western society they implemented too much freedom of speech to a point they all became from Christians to Atheists.
@@aimarramadhan2380: So you think it was OK to jail her simply for commenting that the azaan was too loud?
I wonder what the reaction of the Islamic world would be if the UK jailed a Muslim woman for 18 months for commenting that her local church bells were a bit too loud?
It always seems to me that the the religion of intolerance demands tolerance towards its own.
@@paulberesford9360 I think you watched too many propaganda and found your own research from the Internet based from western point of view. Why not you do with your own research by witnessing it with your own eyes and experience living in Muslim majority countries like Indonesia. I've never experience people from opposite religion critisizing on each other like loud church bells or loud adhan in my whole life. Tell me about it only when you experience it in real life, not from western media or any kinds of media.
Well adzan is always supposed to be loud!
No use complaining
People be using one bad case to judge a whole country 👏👏👏
org inggris mungkin bingung ni org ngemeng apa
Kaga kok it doesn't matter what accent he has
Maen lu kurang jauh tod, di inggris aja banyak aksen yg aneh2, scotts, welsh, gaelic, yg org amrika aja susah ngarti nya. Yg penting kinerja
is he really a president?
yes, 7th Indonesian President indeed
Indonesia sibuk demo
Ampun dah... Bahasa inggrisnya si Jaenudin ini... Kerja gak becus, tabrak aturan sana sini, obral janji dan ingkari... Malu punya presiden kayak gini... Untungnya gak pernah sekalipun milih dia.
i think, the main problem of muslims and including most of their scholars, are too much "legalistic," (fiqh oriented) as if ayatollah (god guidance) is only one: al Quran (holy scripture). factually, God him self, in very first revelation to Muhammad, is not asking Muhammad to study (iqra) the holy Quran (cos the kitab doesn't exist at that time), instead He command Muhammad to study (iqra) other ayatullah, we called as ayat Kauniyah (universe and all of His Creations in it). That why in serious and encyclopedic Islamic traditional school, we always taught that beside al Quran, there is another god guidance (ayatullah) called ayat kauniyah (the universe and all god creation in it). and for qur'anic scholars, we also know --from al Quran it self, there are two others god guidance (ayatullah), that we as muslims should seek for God Guidances: called as ayat insaniyah (human being) and ayat tarikhiyyah (human history).
if muslims, scholars, and other religious people, uses all 4 God Guidance in balanced ways, we will not always fall into legalistic point of view when we talking or examining Islam point of view about woman/feminism, politics, evolution, LGBTQ issues, democracy, etc. for me, if sociology, political science, statistics, history on the rise and fall of civilizations/countries (as interpreters of ayat kauniyah and ayat tarikhiyyah) comes to the conclusion that democracy is the best political system in the world for advancement human civilizations, then all Muslims should choose democracy as preferable political system to practice in all Muslims majority countries. also if expert on biology, doctors, psycholog, etc (as interpreter of ayat kauniyah and ayat insaniyah) , said that beside man and woman (as gender), we also has intersex, hemaprodyte, woman with more testosterones, man with more X chromosome, etc, then all Muslims should choose to agree that god him self gave us guidance / ayat that beside man and woman as gender, there also another genders/pronouns that we should cherish, protect, and respect (cos if we don't respect others God Creations, are similarly with we don't respect our God as their Creator).
if we stubborn, only picks, one ayatullah, we called al Quran (holy scripture/ayat Qauliyah), as the one and only god guidance to follow, then muslims and also others religious peoples, scholars, will fall upon into legalistic point of view (fiqh oriented) when we examining what is islamic point view on everything under the sky. wahabbiyah, isis, al Qaida, etc are trapped in this narrow point of view about Islam and its believe. of course, for responsible and encyclopedic islamic teaching, all those narrow point views on Islam are wrong (at least incomplete), misguided, and disrespecting God.
umar bin khattab, as on of few sahabah (closed friend of Prophet), several times choose to disregarding some textual issues stated clearly in al Quran, and pick other decision when he choose as Muhammad successor, as leader (khalifah/amir), if there are more fairer and more justice way (socially) on making decision as Amir/Leader, rather than choose from what already state very clear in al Quran, he always choose more fairer and more justice, even others sahabah question his decision. and as we know it, umar bin khattab is one of several sahabah that guaranteed by the Prophet that he is going to heaven. his way of leadership decision, was a hard evidence that the closest friend to Muhammad, also not only consider holy scripture (ayat Qauliyah), but also social aspect (ayat kauniyah), when he making decision as a leader.
nobody in umar bin khattab time, dare to called umar bin khattab as heretic/bid'ah, kuffar, or infidel. but in modern era, several of loud muslims, loud muslim scholars, and most of jihadist will immediately call us heretic/bid'ah, kuffar, or infidel if we also uses 3 other God Guidances beside ayat Qauliyah, when we speak, analyze, examining islamic point of view on everything under the sun. how strange is it, if we following completes God Guidance's, then be called as infidel, kuffar, or bid'ah. legalistic approach (fiqh oriented) on Islam has bad impact on advancement of Islamic civilization, and has backward effect on development of its peoples: the Muslims. but yes, in Islamic jurisprudence (ushul fiqh), we also has similar concept with Umar way, but unfortunately has more narrowed approach and clearly far from sufficient to be implemented in modern era, we call them: maslahah mursalah and maqashid syariah.
if we also incorporate social science, biology, technology, history, political science, psychology, etc (as part of rightful interpreter all of God Guidancs/ayatullah), many problem we faced today in many part of Muslim countries, will be addressed in responsible way. after all, in golden age of Islamic civilizations, all of our scholars/ulama was also scientist that breed many scientific discipline. fiqh, kalam and falsafah, factually quite obsolete for addressing social, economic, and political problem in modern era, and most of them derived only from ayat Qauliyah, which is incomplete way to sorting our problem in modern era. lets to back to the complete of God Guidance on solving problem in Muslims world. and stop kuffar/infidel calling game. lets go back to allah via ayat Kauniyah, ayat Insaniyah, ayat Qauliyah, and ayat Tarikhiyyah as a complete way on addressing our problems.
*KEBANGGAAN CEBONG NI* .
Someone should sent him back to school to learn some proper English
Someone should send you back to school to learn proper english and some manners
His English is fine, unless you judge one’s English by their accent which isn’t fair
Being fluent in English does not define your intelligence. Dont be stupid.
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How can one be islamic or for that matter any religion and democracy. A religious country cannot be democratic. It has to be secular for democracy.