Frankford Arsenal Intellidropper Three at Once! How Close are They?
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Ok, so this should help you out John.
I would take your heaviest tray and match all of the lighter ones to that weight by using painters tape or foil tape on the outside edge. Works great for me.
I was gonna suggest that. Todd from elfsters rifles and reloading did that with electrical tape
KB I use the RCBS lite. The book says within +/- .1 grains So I double check with a beam scale.
I still use an "Analog" scale... works when the powers out and it never needs batteries...
I love Pops Quest. Great small community!!! Thanks for sharing your daily routine with us. Makes me have great ideas.
Take all 3 and post them on your favorite forum for sale. Them u will have almost enough to buy a auto trickle and scale. Then u will have accurate loads as fast as all three of us hose will drop and to .02 in stead of .01.
You should use gloves. Use nitrile gloves to keep the oils on your fingertips from effecting the weights. I'm not sure what kind of accuracy those scales have, or what class of weights those are. However, the scale has enough resolution to potentially be pretty accurate. Also, use +90% isopropyl alcohol to clean them.
...I'm fixin' to load .38/.357 for the first time (I've been loading, off & on, since I came home from the Army in Germany in 1974 - started on an RCBS Rockchucker and graduated to progressives in 1986 - been loading .45 ACP & 9mm mostly with some 5.56, 7.62x51 & .45-70 along the way) but want to develop different loads for various types/weights of bullets in small batches of 6 to ten rounds each before deciding which ones to run on my Lee 4000 & Dillon RL500B...figgered this Intellidropper would make the tedious works of dialing in numerous powders/weights much easier...it's worth 200 bux to try and will come in handy when I load rifled rounds - I've already got my pet .45 & 9mm loads...
You're likely never going to get consistent results using 3 different scales, and these scales are only accurate to +/-.2gn. You are dealing with a lot of variables. Best you can do is sand down the heavier plates to the same as the lightest one (you'll have to pick a scale to be the control for this. Meaning weigh all 3 plates on the same scale) then calibrate all 3 scales using the same calibration weights. But I suspect it will all fall apart during the powder calibration process, maybe skip that step if you can as I'd bet they'll all calibrate differently.
What matters most in reloading is consistency and repeatability. what reads 24.5gn on one scale may not read the same on another. Even if the measure is not actually 24.5gn as long as you use the same scale and that scale consistently measures out the same amount you will have good results.
The results you got in your last video when using CFE 223 is pretty typical for the vast majority of spherical powders but CFE 223 in my experience no matter what I do or what I use it for the only thing consistent about it is how inconsistent the velocities are... That said it also tends to give really good velocity numbers. I like running Vihtavuori N133 and N135 in 223 but Vihtavuori powders in general have become my safety net because it don't matter what I do it gives me extremely stable velocity numbers... I've been looking into getting one of these and I think you just made up my mind for me because for the price of these Intellidroppers seem to be a great deal and time saver. Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
Or here is last idea, LOL. number each tray to each machine so you dont mix them up and your fine, once you zero with that try and you keep using it on the same drop your all good
I cut a 223 case and out over the powder drop tube. Stops that unwanted powder from dropping onto the scale.
Take a little sand paper to the edge of the heaviest ones bit by bit match them up. Use a secondary scale to double check the weight after zeroing it to the dish
Nice video. Even with the not reading the same it was within specs. When you measure from one dropper that has a 1 tenth grain + - and then take that charge to another dropper with a 1 tenth grain + - you can end up with 2 tenths off and still be in spec. They were both independently calibrated with different weights and different weight powder pans. Think about it. You video was quite informative and shows that this will work for your application. I have one of these intellidroppers myself.
Old video, but I’ll comment anyways. The reason I get 35-34.9 is because the are accurate to the 1/10 so it’s rounding. So ur probably getting 34.96 on the right and 39.94 on the middle, most likely u are within a couple 1/100th which is way more than adequate for standard reloading. Unless ur gonna take the time to do every possible precision accuracy step, you will never notice it. For the price of these things, that’s excellent.
When you're calibrating, let your weight stabilize before hitting calibrate again for the 100g weight. Also, I'd be curious how much it effects them sitting on the same table running at the same time. I've found if I'm watching a video, I'll prop my phone up on my bench (very heavy duty workbench), but the sound vibrations from my phone actually throw my scale off. Also my fluorescent lights tend to mess with it.
You could have read that in the manual. Lights electrical etc. It's there and simple to read.
@@garrytalley8009 I agree. Thats why I'm telling him.
Brother, I admire your modern and high tech approach here. I really do...
As for myself, I believe that I'll stick with my old Redding scale from the 50's with the oil reservoir to calm the balance bar. It's worked for the last 60 years without issue. But have fun with the new gizmos.😬
I inherited that same scale from my grandpa's reloading set up. You just can't beat them.
@@louiscapasso4452 Well, that makes me feel real old.😕
...I think what I'll do is use my RCBS micrometer adjustable scale (my gold standard since 1974 - that I got as part of my Ammo Crafter kit) I bought in 1973 though the post Rod & Gun club in Illesheim, Germany to verify the charges this thing throws...
Great video...would love to see more on reloading !!! Hopefully primers will get back on the market
I have a RCBS and they have treads inside the powder tube. Sometimes trying to get that last tenth a kernel are two will drop off making it over by a tenth. Doesn't happen often but a Hardy's drinking straw with a piece of electrical tape wrapped around it inserted in the end will help. Those you have may not have that problem.
I’ll be interested to see how these loads turn out!
I understand the frustration. I use a beam scale to back up my RCBS charge master. .1 difference between the 2 usually.
For a quick check I measure the 50grm weight. It should be 771.618grn. So 771.6 is what I expect to read.
I love my Fa powder droppers, I have 2 of them and they are pretty spot on. Just dont use the bubble level on the unit and use another bubble to get is level
If you was to use one of them with a single stage you can be seating your bullet while your next load is dropping. Then depending if you crimp or not you can just do that when your done seating. I always enjoy Johnny's Reloading Bench. Ultimate Reloader is good too. Have you ever watched Eric Cortina? That guy really know his stuff.
I agree with not sitting at the bench trying to get the best scale accuracy, also pay attention to over head ac vents and humidity, if it verys day to day you can get differing loads, imo.
Just a suggestion, Take the lighter trays and add maybe add something like a little caulk to them on the side of the tray a tiny bit at a time till they all weigh the same
I use a powder scoop to get about 2 grains shy then trickle the rest in
Nice demo!
I think I remember from JRB video when using multiple pans to file fown the heavier ones to match the weight of the lightest so they are all the same. I think taking a it off of the handle would be the easiest.
So stick with manual powder dumper?
Hell yeah!!!!!! I liked that Kota boy freedom comes in 25.4grs of CFE223
After my first Intellidropper broke after a few months, they sent two replacements- both defective out of the box. Touch screens defective.
Another way would be to lightly grind some off the heavier trays
KB are there any good gun shops to check out in the Fayetteville area, going to be at Fort Bragg for work in October.
Johnny’s !!!
WHAT YOU THINK OF FLAME THROWERS???😉🔥🔥🔥
Can't understand why 3 powder measures ? Use one 3 times.
You reloading for a mini gun?
Yes
Don't forget to calibrate, calibrate, calibrate...
This thing is going for 169.99 on Amazon right now.
that's a great deal
I am seeing how fast you're going, and I would be worried about losing track and doing a double load. I don't have any experience in hand loading, so I don't know if that's a potential problem or not.
You can't double load, it will overfill the casing. I did it like three times......lol
@@kotaboy32 good to know that it's not a safety issue.
Second intellidroper died in three years , the electric motor is dead ,as I'm located in Spain guarantee don't apply , I can replace but no way to know the RPM .. I know is 12V but factory don't want to tell me if it's 100/200/300/500 or 1000 rpm😡🤬 , bad from customer service
You calibrated 100g+powder, not 100g because you had powder in the scale. This will throw off your measurements.
Great video showing why not to buy that product…. Also shows that Gavin though a great guy, might want to take more time and truly evaluate the accuracy of the Free products he’s given before saying how great they are…. Anyone that’s done research on this product will see several issues with accuracy.
I'm keen on learning how to reload 300 AAC subsonic
Accurate 1680 is the key for subsonic loads in 300 blk.
Also it's not a issue with u. Your chasing your tail with that type of load cell. They will not ever stay consistent and not drift.
I need one of these in my life. I haven’t decided on which one yet.
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Go Kota Go!!!!!
But you never calibrated them…🤣🤣🤣🤣
Youre definitely not a scientis but was a decent video despite the blatant flaws...
Science!
That's a bit nit picky sir, there would be NO difference in performance between a cartridge with 34.9 or 35.00. NONE! Talking while doing this could cause your breath to mess up the scales. Unless you're shooting under the EXACT conditions, a clean barrel each shot, the firearm mounted in a VICE, 0 wind, same temps, humidity, every thing, you'd not see any difference.
Mine crapped out. Scale ranges up and down with nothing on it. Won't zero out. Bought it in 2020. Seen a pound of powder through it. There is no reason it crapped out like this. You get what you pay for seems to hold true.