I love the cloth seats in my 1SS. I bought my Camaro for the drivetrain, not the creature comforts. My 2013 2SS was loaded. I don’t miss any of those extra options. Love your channel. I watch it more that any other channel I subscribe to.
Thank you very much. I was contemplating which package to get on my 2017 Camaro and wasn't quite sure of the difference between the 1SS and 2SS. After showing my wife this video I got the go ahead to order neither and get a 2017 ZL1, black on black wheels. I can't wait. Great video, very helpful.
BrEEzy TonY no you compass the ZL1 to a GT350. It’s SS VS GT VS R/T Scat pack. Then you go ZL1 VS GT350 VS Hellcat which is still not very fair with the hellcat.
The seats on the 1SS are pretty basic where the seats on the 2ss are gorgeous! The whole feel of the car is completely different with the 2ss, to me it's definitely worth the money
I was just curious about the differences. Honestly all the extras seem nice, but I love my Riverside blue 1SS. I am able to build the inside exactly how I want which I love. It’s kind of like making my own 2SS.
I feel like a bandit. Bought my 6gen2ss with MRC, Tremec six speed gearbox, rally striped, black out rear...for 37K thanks to my aggressive Chevy sales partner who magically garnered that 20% discount... The deal was realized October 14th.
J0hNnY BeE sounds good looks like I'll be going to my local chevy dealer looking for a 2017 2ss to get that 20% discount since it's October 17 and I know they want them off the lot asap
Love your vids man - thanks for sharing. I was on the fence about the Camaro vs Mustang. I went with the Stang but thats my personal taste. I had a 94 Camaro back in the day and loved it. Something about Camaro - it is always the faster one. Keep up the vids - I have a few of my 2012 stang ... haven't posted any of my 15 yet. The new Camaro ATS platform was a bit too small for me for a muscle car.
This is an excellent and very detailed video, and was much more helpful than any other I have seen and than anything I have read. Thanks so much. Joseph
I have a question? have you checked out the New Borla exhaust system. .please tell me what you think about it. .I'f not what's the best system to use to help really give it a growl and open it up. .the Borla system works with the NPP..also
+will collins The Borla Atak system is nice, but for me it sounds a bit to muffled in tone. I still need to hear it in person... but even their new video that went up today, didn't sell me all the way.
Lethalhammer yes your thinking the same way iam about this. I would have to hear it in person also. .so what have you heard or would recommend. .so far I like the stainless works system it's almost 3000 but hey. ....
your videos are the best! am still 16 but planning on getting a v8 camaro in a year or two. i just love them! this video was helpful & now am looking into the 2ss
thanks for making the video very nice well I'm driving in the car bit too busy to sit down and read through the information and compare it to this was very helpful
HUD can be usefully but total not a necessity. The sound system can be modified for around $300-$500 and could sound better. Even with blind spot alerts, still can’t see lol. Who doesn’t have a $20 car charger these days. In fact, wireless charging takes 5x longer so theoretically, if you left home to go to work or get groceries (15 minute trip) and charged your phone (assuming your phone supports wireless charging) you’d only get about a 3%-5% jump versus more charge with a cable. RGB lights on Amazon are $15. Not worth $3,000 to $6000 extra and yes I have owned both cars.
Hey Lethal, I had a question for you: Are you closer to being done with your break-in of your Camaro? I was curious, because I was wondering if you would do a video on the available launch control and how to effectively operate it. It seems simple enough, but as I don't own one yet, and there are no videos on it, I thought that might be a fun video for you to film and an enjoyable one to watch for people. I know you have your Vitesse throttle mod, so I don't know how that would work in the launch. Anyway, I ramble too, sorry for all the long comments I've made on your videos! Thanks for all the information you are providing on this beautiful machine! Best channel on RUclips for it!
As always your videos are very helpful...sent my specs to Becky from Camaro6 and putting my order in tmrw morning. 17 2ss Hyper Blue loaded... Cant wait! Although im assuming it will be quite the wait...haha.
My question is then. I want to get a 1LE, is it worth waiting until the 2018s for the availability of a 2SS 1LE or is the 1LE badass enough in the 1SS Trim?
hey lethal has your tire pressure monitor system been acting up mine will show that 2 tires have nothing then pop back up that they are aired up to the correct psi
2 days ago y went to a delearship in mexico that was offering a 2017 2SS they use for demo with no more than 200 miles on it, it has everything that you said the 2SS includes except for the bose audio, is it possible to have the 2SS without the bose audio ? Or the speakers were just missing the bose logo or what ?
+MrKarlitoz94 It's an older motor from 2009, over the years was offered in a 5.3L and a 6.0L design. Less power and not nearly as many after market products made for it. I think the LT2 was last used in the Chevy avalanche.
I'm back. How likely is it that my passenger side rear mirror could be damaged by a replacement after doing major damage to my 2016? It seems it pulled away from the housing by it moving in and out. There are no marks on the outside of it which rules out any type of damage from the outside. And I can't make it budge no matter how or where I pull/push on it. I'm just trying to find out who or what is to blame for this since I did $12k worth of damage to it. (I have a need for speed.) Thanks, Cappy.
I am having a hard time deciding between the manual and auto transmission. I want remote start for everyday use but I don't think you can get that with the manual. does the active fuel management come on vehicles with both manual and automatic transmissions?
Lethal thank you I'm going for a 1SS then. that backup camera with the terrible visibility was a make or break for me but since I got it I'll stay cheaper
I have a friend who just bought a 2017 SS 2SS and he said these come with 525 rather than 455. Any truth about if these numbers are factory or better yet authentic?
He is lying to you... the car comes stock at 455 at the crank, some do dyno at a slightly higher numbers, but not 525HP. unless he is getting a tune and running 100 octane, he pulling your chain.
I'm waiting to see the 2017 ZL1, but I've also been looking at the GT350. However - there is no way I am ever going to pay a huge dealer markup. If I can't get a good deal on the Camaro or Mustang, I'll get a new BMW 340i. Not as sporty, but still a sweet ride - especially for long trips.
+Lethalhammer that's not bad! Considering in getting one but I also want to wait for the 2017 camaro ss 1LE. But it's probably going to cost another 5-6k. Do you have magnetic suspension?
Quick question, on the 1ss with just standard exhaust. Are there any aftermarket options available to make it dual mode on each side? Or would that require the ground effects package? Thanks
Hey lethal might be sorta a Dumb question but the 1SS is the SS?? Or does it go SS 1SS 2SS And is the SS is just a Stock V8 Camaro ?? I’m so lost really looking into buying One But all the models are Weirdly Confusing I just want a V8 and I’ll do the rest of the Customizing Speakers Tires performance Paint Interior Etc...
Hey dude, could u share the song name on the background?, i looked for it on AudioJungle but i had no lucky!, Besides that, thanks for this info, ill buy my very first camaro and i think ill get the 1SS
That would be great. I think emphasis on a poor man's Camaro would be great. Sort of what I listed in my previous post. Understand they stop taking orders for the 2016
Do you think the 1SS is faster than the 2SS? I mean it is lighter due to not having say a sun roof (i'm aware this is not standard), leather seats, and more tech etc. P.S. I'm a huge numbers guy.
Man the vented seats and nav is nice but i can get by with cloth seats, mediocre speakers. Bare bones imo is better for me. My na tuning (600ish hp) setup comes out to under $55K
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The leather trim, stereo and the vented seat is what makes it impossible for me to settle with a 1SS
2ss with a sunroof and magnetic ride is what I need
the 5k difference is based on msrp. in reality if you shop around and haggle the difference is around 3k.
Thanks this is the second of your videos I watched. That is why I'm purchasing the 2ss instead of the 1SS or the 1LE. Thanks guy 🤗
I love the cloth seats in my 1SS. I bought my Camaro for the drivetrain, not the creature comforts. My 2013 2SS was loaded. I don’t miss any of those extra options. Love your channel. I watch it more that any other channel I subscribe to.
Thank you very much. I was contemplating which package to get on my 2017 Camaro and wasn't quite sure of the difference between the 1SS and 2SS. After showing my wife this video I got the go ahead to order neither and get a 2017 ZL1, black on black wheels. I can't wait. Great video, very helpful.
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4:05 Pigs don't sweat- no functional sweat glands. Hence, the lounging around in mud. Ok- leaving now.
as a ford person this video was very informational. Thanks
+Pete Svt 03 awesome. Glad it helped
You had me at 2 extra Bose speakers!
I paid $34600 for my 1SS and it's still better equipped then my 13' GT Mustang.
Out of the door?
olbear303 you don’t compare ss to gt. Ss needs to be compared to gt350
Ummmm no.
BrEEzy TonY no you compass the ZL1 to a GT350. It’s SS VS GT VS R/T Scat pack. Then you go ZL1 VS GT350 VS Hellcat which is still not very fair with the hellcat.
Yeah it shits on the base model S550 mustang.
The seats on the 1SS are pretty basic where the seats on the 2ss are gorgeous! The whole feel of the car is completely different with the 2ss, to me it's definitely worth the money
+Hector Mangual Yeah... that 2SS pack is legit. It is why I saved a bit more as I knew I wanted all the options.
That's a great value for 5k for the 2SS Camaro thank you Chevy.
I was just curious about the differences. Honestly all the extras seem nice, but I love my Riverside blue 1SS. I am able to build the inside exactly how I want which I love. It’s kind of like making my own 2SS.
I feel like a bandit.
Bought my 6gen2ss with MRC, Tremec six speed gearbox, rally striped, black out rear...for 37K thanks to my aggressive Chevy sales partner who magically garnered that 20% discount...
The deal was realized October 14th.
J0hNnY BeE hows It holding up?
J0hNnY BeE sounds good looks like I'll be going to my local chevy dealer looking for a 2017 2ss to get that 20% discount since it's October 17 and I know they want them off the lot asap
I needed this! Thanks Bro
this really helps im so indecisive between the 1ss and 2ss
Was going to get a 2020 1ss but I can get a 2017 2ss for around 3k cheaper I think I’m gonna go with the 2017 2ss
Love your vids man - thanks for sharing. I was on the fence about the Camaro vs Mustang. I went with the Stang but thats my personal taste. I had a 94 Camaro back in the day and loved it. Something about Camaro - it is always the faster one. Keep up the vids - I have a few of my 2012 stang ... haven't posted any of my 15 yet. The new Camaro ATS platform was a bit too small for me for a muscle car.
+1234zcrom share some pics!
I got the 1SS with Recaros, I wouldn't trade those seats for anything. The only thing I miss from the 2SS package is the heads up display.
I purchased a 2017 1SS. The price difference between the two was a major decision. The other side was I didn't want all the extras of the 2SS
Nice, your video helped me understand what I bought...lol. I have the 2SS and greatly enjoy the extras!
This is an excellent and very detailed video, and was much more helpful than any other I have seen and than anything I have read. Thanks so much. Joseph
+Joseph Bullock Thanks man.
I have a question? have you checked out the New Borla exhaust system. .please tell me what you think about it. .I'f not what's the best system to use to help really give it a growl and open it up. .the Borla system works with the NPP..also
+will collins The Borla Atak system is nice, but for me it sounds a bit to muffled in tone. I still need to hear it in person... but even their new video that went up today, didn't sell me all the way.
Lethalhammer yes your thinking the same way iam about this. I would have to hear it in person also. .so what have you heard or would recommend. .so far I like the stainless works system it's almost 3000 but hey. ....
+will collins I am heavily leaning towards the stainless works cat back system
+Lethalhammer Man you are thinking same..iam going with the headers love the sound it throws out THANKS AGAIN MAN
your videos are the best! am still 16 but planning on getting a v8 camaro in a year or two. i just love them! this video was helpful & now am looking into the 2ss
did ya get one?
Rented a 2ss in San Anonio texas on vacation. The blind spot monitors were AMAZING driving in the city. Loved the car. Hope to get one this summer!
thanks for making the video very nice well I'm driving in the car bit too busy to sit down and read through the information and compare it to this was very helpful
HUD can be usefully but total not a necessity. The sound system can be modified for around $300-$500 and could sound better. Even with blind spot alerts, still can’t see lol. Who doesn’t have a $20 car charger these days. In fact, wireless charging takes 5x longer so theoretically, if you left home to go to work or get groceries (15 minute trip) and charged your phone (assuming your phone supports wireless charging) you’d only get about a 3%-5% jump versus more charge with a cable. RGB lights on Amazon are $15. Not worth $3,000 to $6000 extra and yes I have owned both cars.
I just purchased a used 2016 SS2 for $25K, 40K miles, fully loaded pampered and garaged just like new. With new tires and radar detector!
Sheeeesh congrats man
But has a pic of a shitty ford ? 😆🤣
Hey Lethal, I had a question for you: Are you closer to being done with your break-in of your Camaro? I was curious, because I was wondering if you would do a video on the available launch control and how to effectively operate it. It seems simple enough, but as I don't own one yet, and there are no videos on it, I thought that might be a fun video for you to film and an enjoyable one to watch for people. I know you have your Vitesse throttle mod, so I don't know how that would work in the launch. Anyway, I ramble too, sorry for all the long comments I've made on your videos! Thanks for all the information you are providing on this beautiful machine! Best channel on RUclips for it!
There is no launch control on automatics. I think that's what Lethal has. Only for manuals.
+bemrocs yes this is.
You have a torque converter in automatics. You do not, in fact, have launch control. Read your manual.
there is launch control on automatics, do a youtube search "2016 camaro ss launch control"
gearing for a new position at my company (internal)....first day I get it, shooting down to Chevy for that 2ss 2017. fk it
That’s definitely worth 5 extra grand for those additional options!
As always your videos are very helpful...sent my specs to Becky from Camaro6 and putting my order in tmrw morning. 17 2ss Hyper Blue loaded... Cant wait! Although im assuming it will be quite the wait...haha.
I have a 2018 Redline Package 1SS and its more than enough... sunroof, a big v8, and quadtips exhaust.. what more can you want
Bro
I love your RUclips channel !!!
+Chris Rivera thanks man
I was undecided between the 1ss vs 2ss after watching ur video I’m going to get the 2ss ..
Thanks, answered my question.
What is LPO? Saw it on the website but didn't know what it is
+Donald Hughes Limited Production Order - LPO items are typically dealer installed items.
Does the Trim lights around the door and the cup holder comes with 1SS?
+Vosser it does not but it can be added to an 1ss
Lethal what do they call it on their website?
+Vosser Interior spectrum lighting.
Hey the camaros that come with single tip from the factory still come with tour mode, sport mode, track mode and snow/ice mode?
Yes those modes determine more than just exhaust sound
LethalGarage thank for the info 👍🏼
My question is then. I want to get a 1LE, is it worth waiting until the 2018s for the availability of a 2SS 1LE or is the 1LE badass enough in the 1SS Trim?
the rumor is the 2SS 1LE will be a very late arrival in 2018. So it depends if you're willing to wait.
cool color changing lights *
wait so the 2ss has those cool Cole cha going lights on the doors only right? and the 1ss doesn't have those right ?
+SILVERDUDE 22 correct
You have an awesome car. Thanks for the post friend. So does the 1ss not have the brembos?
may sound like a strange question but does the SS models come with an usb ports? If so, where is it located?
Yes, in the center console arm rest.
hey lethal has your tire pressure monitor system been acting up mine will show that 2 tires have nothing then pop back up that they are aired up to the correct psi
+eddie hamilton might jus be an odd sync issue. Your dealer can recalibrate them.
+Lethalhammer they have to replace 3 or my monitors they aren't working correctly
+eddie hamilton well that's an easy fix.
Does the 2ss come stock with the apple car play or do you have to upgrade to the nav???
+eZ duZiT Apple car play was available at launch. No upgrade needed. Android Auto requires an update that was released in March.
What is the rear crossing assist and Lane change assist?
+Cameron White It will warn you when cross traffic is coming and the lane change is an alert that goes off when a car is along side you.
+Lethalhammer; Thank you, I kind of thought that's what they were. I wasn't real sure about the cross traffic assist.
The 2016 1ss is going for 32k down here in miami right now.
Maybe the 2ss 1le would be a nice choice
Whats the difference between a 16 and 17 ss2 besides the body.
ECU is locked in the 17 and it costs more to tune among a few other odds and ends
is the 2ss not only coming with a automatic gearbox?
+Eryk No, you can get either or
Thanks, great info
thank you good vid very helpful just what i needed
+Hillslam awesome
Thanks to this I just got done buying my 2SS
so that cool interior lighting u can only get with the 2ss?
+MRAJLOPEZ20 it's a package you can add, but standard on 2LT and 2SS
2 days ago y went to a delearship in mexico that was offering a 2017 2SS they use for demo with no more than 200 miles on it, it has everything that you said the 2SS includes except for the bose audio, is it possible to have the 2SS without the bose audio ? Or the speakers were just missing the bose logo or what ?
Thank you for uploading this helpful video. 💯😎
What are the differences between the LT1 and LT2? Are they similar to this?
+MrKarlitoz94 It's an older motor from 2009, over the years was offered in a 5.3L and a 6.0L design. Less power and not nearly as many after market products made for it. I think the LT2 was last used in the Chevy avalanche.
I'm back. How likely is it that my passenger side rear mirror could be damaged by a replacement after doing major damage to my 2016? It seems it pulled away from the housing by it moving in and out. There are no marks on the outside of it which rules out any type of damage from the outside. And I can't make it budge no matter how or where I pull/push on it. I'm just trying to find out who or what is to blame for this since I did $12k worth of damage to it. (I have a need for speed.) Thanks, Cappy.
Is the axle ratio different from a 1ss to a 2ss?
No
whats the wieght difference?
Go to 3:05-3:07 +lethalhammer
And I'm sure you appreciate those brembo bakes to haul in all the powahh that big ole engine makes
I am having a hard time deciding between the manual and auto transmission. I want remote start for everyday use but I don't think you can get that with the manual. does the active fuel management come on vehicles with both manual and automatic transmissions?
+Jorel DeLeon AFM is Auto only as is the remote start.
+Lethalhammer , well, I guess that will make my decision easier. thanks man, keep up the great work!
+Jorel DeLeon Thank you sir
thanks great briefing!
Thanks
does backup camera come on the 1ss?
+Cory Craig Yes
Lethal thank you I'm going for a 1SS then. that backup camera with the terrible visibility was a make or break for me but since I got it I'll stay cheaper
I have a friend who just bought a 2017 SS 2SS and he said these come with 525 rather than 455. Any truth about if these numbers are factory or better yet authentic?
He is lying to you... the car comes stock at 455 at the crank, some do dyno at a slightly higher numbers, but not 525HP. unless he is getting a tune and running 100 octane, he pulling your chain.
what white is your car and what rims do u have on it ?
+Antonio Juarez It's the only white GM offers. Summit White and I am rocking MRR Designs FS01's
I'm waiting to see the 2017 ZL1, but I've also been looking at the GT350. However - there is no way I am ever going to pay a huge dealer markup. If I can't get a good deal on the Camaro or Mustang, I'll get a new BMW 340i. Not as sporty, but still a sweet ride - especially for long trips.
Where's the universal remote in the camaro? For
Garage in the2ss
+William Branco just infront of the rear view mirror on the right side.
Great video great channel.
+1camaroland Thanks for the kind words
43k start for 1ss here in Canada
and how much do u estimate the insurance will be on a 2ss
+Antonio Juarez Depends on the person, the city they live in and how long they have been driving.
definitely helpful thanks
Can u get red interior ? If so how ?
I think you can. Have to custom order it from your dealer.
when I odered mine in like 2 years I think I will get a 2SS basically for the HUD. I have a 2010 Camaro 1LT/RS and had the 2011 HUD installed on it.
Who installed it for yiu
+Jonathan Orendain
a buddy of mine did it for me. he has done like 5 of them. I got the part in Gen5diy.com I think
Hahaha, my old pos 199 grand prix gtp had an hud. it was kind of nice having it.
Is the dual mode exhaust standard on 2ss?
no
How much did you get your camaro 2ss out the dealer? If you don't mind me asking?
+Victor Rivera $46 before tax and incetives.
+Lethalhammer that's not bad! Considering in getting one but I also want to wait for the 2017 camaro ss 1LE. But it's probably going to cost another 5-6k. Do you have magnetic suspension?
+Victor Rivera I do. MRC, Dual Mode Exhaust it's nice...
Quick question, on the 1ss with just standard exhaust. Are there any aftermarket options available to make it dual mode on each side? Or would that require the ground effects package? Thanks
+Colton Swart It would require a new rear dual mode fascia. Plenty offer quad tip setups.
Is this like the mod and installation you did to yours? The rear fascia that is. I can't seem to find one by itself alone online.
+Colton Swart You have to order it from your dealer.
+Colton Swart Note... it is not cheap.
Hey lethal might be sorta a Dumb question but the 1SS is the SS?? Or does it go SS 1SS 2SS And is the SS is just a Stock V8 Camaro ?? I’m so lost really looking into buying One But all the models are Weirdly Confusing I just want a V8 and I’ll do the rest of the Customizing Speakers Tires performance Paint Interior Etc...
Does the 2 and 1 ss have the same amount of power? I’m kind of torn in between and idk what to get
But I’m trying to get like a 2010 as a first car
Yes
Thanks!!! 2SS it is!!!
thanks I'm new to selling cars in Wisconsin this was great
Glad it was helpful.
1le Baby!
awesome video
Thanks
Hey dude, could u share the song name on the background?, i looked for it on AudioJungle but i had no lucky!, Besides that, thanks for this info, ill buy my very first camaro and i think ill get the 1SS
Here you go: audiojungle.net/item/emotional-dubstep/5813103
Lethalhammer
Thankyou lots!!, i love ur work, way to go dude!
possibly getting a 16 Camaro ss on June 16th. good to know this intel
Awesome! and congratz
Over all, 1SS is the lightest 6th Camaro. Right?
The LS with an i4 is the lightest, with the LT1 being the lightest V8
Ok can somebody answer this question for me what’s the difference in hp nothing???
They are the same, butt he 2ss is a heavier car which makes it slower.
ss is good but I’m going for that zl1
Thanks. Appreciate the info. I tend to prefer the 2SS, but this was a good comparison..
do one on 1lt vs 2lt
+Jon Car Working on it.
That would be great. I think emphasis on a poor man's Camaro would be great. Sort of what I listed in my previous post. Understand they stop taking orders for the 2016
+Jon Car it's a good thing I have info on the 2017's
+Lethalhammer cool man do a poor man's 2lt 2.0 and make it look like a SS
2015 1SS/RS, Black Rims, 3:91 gears, CAI, strut brace, 10mm wires and tune...
#ss4life Love my girl..
i have a camaro 2ss ...booom...totally love my car..
just found out i have the 2ss without ss badges lol i was so confused
nice vids mate i love camaros im 16 and from belgium. i cant buy it yet but when i get the money it will be in my garage
Do you think the 1SS is faster than the 2SS? I mean it is lighter due to not having say a sun roof (i'm aware this is not standard), leather seats, and more tech etc.
P.S. I'm a huge numbers guy.
+Billy Bob Joe A 1SS should have the upper hand in weight. But not much
very negligible.
I have a 2020 Camaro 2SS and it doesn’t have wireless charging....
It was removed
I can't live without the backup camera. Not sure if that's worth 5k though
James Friedman comes stock actually even in the 1 LE turbo 4 cylinder
Man the vented seats and nav is nice but i can get by with cloth seats, mediocre speakers. Bare bones imo is better for me. My na tuning (600ish hp) setup comes out to under $55K
This is with the 6spd, upgraded brakes and duel exhaust, blade spoiler etc from the factory
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Thanks! Love your vids- very helpful and informative. I'm just trying to decide on color!
+Donald Hughes that is by far the hardest choice ;) I love the White, Red, and silver... but only silver if you do black accents.