Telsa Supercharger Edition | The Definitive UK EV Charging Pricing And Power Guide
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Our monthly EV charging prices and power guide is still on its way but this month we wanted to take an in-depth look at Tesla superchargers and their pricing. So to find out what's going on, stick around as Dave Takes It On.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Start
00:22 - Data source UK Government and Zapmap
00:35 - Total Rapid and Ultra-Rapid public chargers
01:24 - Non-Tesla charger power rating
02:04 - Ultra-Rapid Chargers
02:25 - 2022 Tesla opened 15 superchargers to any EV with CCS2
02:42 - 68 Supercharger locations now open to all EVs with CCS2
02:54 - 856 Ultra-Rapid chargers open to all in the UK
03:24 - Charger power sharing
03:48 - Multiple chargers per location
04:21 - Tesla charger power ratings
06:08 - Cheapest Ultra-Rapid Charging Network in UK
06:55 - Peak and off-peak pricing
07:49 - How to pay at a Tesla Supercharger open to all
08:32 - The Tesla app
09:32 - Tesla Membership £8.99
11:03 - Paying for a charging session at a Tesla Supercharger
11:50 - Charging as a Tesla supercharger member.
12:56 - Where and how much to charge
13:21 - Finding a Tesla Supercharger open to all
13:34 - Tesla web site Tesla.com
15:11 - Locating Superchargers from the Tesla app
16:27 - Pulling into your chosen bay
17:46 - How much to charge
18:42 - Idle Fees
19:45 - How to Queue
20:23 - Complaints and issues 
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I don't own a Tesla but what they are doing is impressive.
Enjoyed 34p kWh charge at Camborne Supercharger this morning as well as setting up Autocharger at Fastned, all in my base spec MG4. Convinced things only continue to get better from here.
Smithy View Garage on Chester Road, Wrexham, has regular queues for petrol and diesel because of their low prices. I smile inwardly as I drive past in my BEV which I can charge at home whenever I like.
Queues for petrol, but surely it only takes 5 minutes to fill a tank
I get a lot of funny looks when I turn up in my zoe ze50 😊
Entitled people can come in many forms and drive many types of cars. However Tesla have a stated vision to accelerate the growth of EV driving so the more the merrier. Imagine a Leaf with an expensive Chademo to CCS adapter, that’s worth making a face at! 😊
Very precise, extensive and informative information. Excellent presentation for a noob like me!
Thanks Paul, nice to be of service
Thank you! This is much needed and informative summary for us non Tesla owners on how we can use the network. As far as I can see no one else is providing this information.
Thanks for your support. If Tesla open them people deserve to know what they are and how to use them
I have only had my Tesla Model 3 for 2 months and haven't yet used a supercharger with it, only charging at home for my last 2150 miles! I hope more people use Tesla and avoid the expensive chargers as this will hopefully get theri attention to reduce prices and be competitive.
Took out the membership for the first time this month as I was planning a mammoth trip to visit friends and family. Ended up doing a total of 698 miles with a total cost that include the membership and top up on my home charger on return of £60.83. So 9p a mile, hate to think what it would have cost if I had used non-Tesla chargers.
More, much more, much, much more. Good to hear.
Great video. Very informative. Thank you Dave
Very informative, thank you
Hi Dave, have you done a report on Chargers for Disabled that may be nearer the Services entrance?
Personally, I would hind it difficult to hobble to Loo/Services if charger was too far away.
Yes, I could park near the door first, use the facilities then move to the charger.
I was just wondering
That’s such an important question also I have seen a lot of chargers for disabled being ICEd by disabled fossil drivers. This is the main friction I believe.
Hi Dave, observed a new Gridserve installation at Wolstanton retail park off the A 500 Stoke on Trent looks like six double bays going in. Waiting to see the price per kilowatt hour after commissioning hope it’s lower than the extortionate charge at present . Keep up the good informative work. 😊
Gridserve operates a flat price across the entire network - 79p/kWh. It's a shame because they are building great sites but the current price is inexcusable.
I'm heading down to Gridserve soon, to find out what's going on and what is likely to happen in the future
I have a 2023 MG ZS ev I tried to charge at Tesla open charger but it couldn’t recognise my car, took back to MG who had to do an update seems to be a problem with the this model,
Changed at the Trafford centre no problem but it did take a £20 upfront payment my bill was only £8.82 it will take few days for this to adjust,I’m very happy with Tesla charging don’t feel like I’m being ripped off
Yes the £20 precharge settles from that value to your actual value a few days after charging
Still the big gap from Manchester to Glasgow, you should do a review on the new ionity passport, 43p kw with a monthly costs
Likewise Liverpool to Glasgow
I agree. It would be good if the Tesla Superchargers at Westmorland were opened to all.
Walton Summit is opening some time soon, M6/M65 with 15 V4 open to all and Gretna Green about to go live with a large number of V3s and, I am told, V4s.
Standard range MG5s won't charge on a Tesla supercharger. Facelift models require a firmware update that is classed as an enhancement so is chargeable unless done by dealers as goodwill. The pre facelift long range is subject to a lot of discussion as MG issued a technical note that they need a new EVCC - even though some of the later ones have the same EVCC and base firmware as the facelift models and some MG4s
so can I charge my MG5 2024 at any Tesla chargers?
My recent talk with the commissioning engineers revealed that the issues are all known and being worked on. Unfortunately there is a long list of issues with a variety non-Tesla EVs.
Brian, the answer is you should be able to but play safe, try to charge when you don't need to, to find out. I would welcome hearing about your findings
Cheers Dave
I used the Trentham Tesla charger on my MG4 last week. Due a diversion to drop my soon off in Milton Mowbray, we were down to 10%. After a visit to toilets and a cup of tea, we were on 93% on returning. Cost £20 (before 4pm).The first charger I tried was defunct. The site was the busiest I’ve ever seen it but it had 2/3 vacant chargers available. Some people were having difficulty removing the plug (solution; just depress the button on the charger plug).
Good to hear, it is a busy location but only once did I find it full on arrival but that was a while back before the V4s were added
Yes if the plug is stuck it’s because the car or charger are ready to pass high power electricity, depress the button or stop charging in your car should unlock. This can happen on any charger and is better than spilling fuel in the fossil days!
Dave, did you get any idea when the supercharger at Manchester Central will be open for use? I live 5 mins away and have a non tesla ev.
No definite answer but the commissioning engineers I met said it is on their list. But also can confirm it will be open to all
If I pay the monthly fee does that give access to ALL chargers for non Tesla EVs, or only the reduced charging rates.
I tend to only charge at a Tesla charger when out (although mostly charge at home), I find using the app and the chargers to be excellent.
I did however very recently use a MER charger (by chance), it was a shared 22Kw charger, but was only 35p and worked out as I was visiting a local attraction for a few hours, enough charge to get home with no inconvenience, not even ICE drivers can claim that!
Yes, I think the market is moving towards ultra-rapid Tesla and really slow and cheap type 2, leaving the 50kW in the middle of nowhere, wasn't that a song?
Just FYI Dave - stopped at the Abington Welcome Break services on the M74. Whilst I was charging at an AppleGreen in my Polestar2, Tesla have shutdown their chargers at Abington as they are installing a load (I counted at least 10 which are still having the core cabling installed) of new v4 chargers adding to the 6 they already have here which have been covered up for the moment which will make 16 available here at Abington, alongside the 8 AppleGreen 175kW Chargers too (and 2 50kW ‘slow’ GridServe chargers)
Thanks for the info. I was there a few months ago and they only had V3s waiting to be connected at that time. Great they are adding V4s. You forget the 4 Ionity up by the petrol station?
5:20 "instead instead instead" 🤔 so that's why you need to do those LOOONG GAPS, to pre-read...
Tesla chargers are excellent. I only wish my electric car could take advantage of the full rate of charge they can offer but the Kona tops out at 75KW per hour.
Maybe not the speed, but you can enjoy the price.
@@davetakesiton agreed, I delight when I hit 80kw in my MG4 but of course other models do better but that’s part of the reality, contentment is a powerful quality, on the flip side the delta for my car charging on slower chargers is less so choice comes mainly down to price.
When I click on the bubble it enlarges but does not show any information at all. Each one I click on expands but nothing further happens. IPad iOS (15.8.2)
Just tried it on my iPad with 17.5.1 and clicking the bubble opens up the location details underneath with chargers, occupancy and prices
@@davetakesiton Thanks. My IPad will not accept the latest updates, so that explains it
I charged my Ioniq at Banbury Tesla Superchargers at 41p/Kwh last Sunday even though I can only charge at 44Kw
44kw is better than 7kw or 1.8kw on a standard plug, plus how many miles an hour do you add? That’s somewhat more comparable between cars. ☺️
Love Tesla Superchargers, I'm lucky in that I can use all the ones that are open to all as my charging port ison the same side as Teslas. Open to all is therefore a bit misleading as currretly quite a few are the V3 superchargers which because of the short cable few cars can use without blocking off bays to get the cable to reach.
Yes, short cables are an issue that can only be corrected over time as the V2 and V3 are replaced with the future proof V4s.
So does becoming a member allow me to use more charging stations as a non tesla ev?
Becoming a member allows you to use all of the Tesla superchargers that are designated “this supercharger is open to Tesla and other EVs with CCS comparability” not only in the UK but indeed the whole world
Not in the UK but it does make them less expensive, You can use all the ones that are open to non Teslas without being a member.
My Powerwall App thinks I'm in the US anyone know how to change it to the UK ?
Is your account set to US?
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Try the Website/ Support/ Energy.
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Was your phone location activated when you set up the account?
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Are you using a VPN?
@@rogerstarkey5390
it must be but the company who installed the powerwall set the app up for me .
@@johnstouchpad6437 No i didnt know you can on a phone .
My BIG question is, if Tesla can get EV charging prices down, then how much excessive profits are all these other companies making from (non Tesla) EV drivers?!
An awful lot
What if you arrive at a charger 2am, battery nearly flat & your telco &/or internet banking are down
exactly the same as arriving at a petrol station, DUH
Pay by cash instead at a petrol station if telco &/or internet banking are down.....
If the chargers are at a petrol station & not just a big unmanned charging station charging s
What if your oil refinery is closed or LGV strikes take hold or oil producers go to war!?
I dont own an oil refinary, wish I did.
Short nol fill charge sessions mean more charging breaks.
I suppose with an EV if the internet is down you ser up camp & wait it out.
Same as at the petrol station, how can they process payments with no internet unless you carry wads of cash
That is the answer, always carry cash (no batteries required)
There’s a Charge point near me 22KW at £1.02 kWh 😮
A least Dick Turpin had the common decency to wear a mask.
Bet there's a queue, Rod
Afternoon mate
Sadly Flint Mountain is temporarily closed but no idea why! I have to go to the new Osprey down the road.
Pity. Its a good stop next to a nice restaurant.
@@ralpharmsby8040 Billy Jeans cafe next to the Osprey one but definitely more a greasy spoon!
Camborne was closed on May 31, however a week later was open, may have been open earlier, I’d guess they may have been upgrading the chargers or doing maintenance, if you need Flint, check every day.
Keep checking Barry, if they go down, they usually come back up really quickly, just checked all 8 are open and vacant right now
@@malcolmsutton6740 yes I was pleased it had reopened by the time I visited, being the whole site was down located next door to National Grid might help, in any case 3 other operators are within a short distance. I was glad there were no parking restrictions unlike Heathrow’s Superchargers
On Fridays news you said all Tesla chargers are now open to All. Has there been a press release on Tesla chargers in the U.K. open to all? When will the Tesla app show this too.
You misunderstood what he said on Friday - it wasn’t all Tesla chargers, it was all chargers at Tesla service centres. It didn’t affect other Tesla chargers.
For you to be correct the collective phrase requires a prefix or a verb. It has neither
Sorry Dave got to excited whilst listening too you. Must pay more attention to in future.🤣🤣🤣
@BlackCountryLad
I suppose you could check the Tesla website?
@@davec1768The question was already answered, try reading the comments properly.
As a Tesla owner I have absolutely no problem with Tesla opening up V4 chargers. But seeing blocked bays at the V2,3 chargers is a real pain and Tesla shouldn't have opened them up and this will soon be in breach of the UK charging regulations in any case. This bay blocking must frustrate non Tesla EV owners as much as Tesla owners. I've see a Porsche Taycan blocking 3 bays madness. Also worth noting the V2 chargers share the charge with another bay 1a and 1b for instance so you might find you get a lot less charge than you thought you would
Yes rough with the smooth unfortunately. Luckily the V2s are less than 15% of the total and all new ones opening now are V4. They are being installed at a faster rate proportionately than the increase in EV sales so I’m hoping this is about the worst it’s going to get. BTW I just filmed a foreign Polestar towing a tiny trailer parking across 3 SWARCO bays while charging rather unhitch the trailer. Takes all sorts
@@davetakesiton😂😂😂 numpty
How on earth does Tesla know if there's a short or a long queue ???
Tesla monitors all cars on a charge and can see the SOC now, the limit set and the charging speed. It knows which cars are nearly ready to leave and which have just arrived. PLUS it knows how many EVs are heading towards it and their SOC. Exactly the same way Amazon can offer next day or same day delivery,; it has what you are about to order on its way to your local depot before you order it.
I understand it knows how many are leaving but those arriving ? Fascinating topic. I sold my Kona purely because of 'charging anxiety' rarely need to use them but have had to wait in a queue. Can only get better.
My new EV will only charge at 100KW max so the cheapest charger is the thing for me
Tesla chargers all the way
Is it a good idea to publicise the open for non Teslas? Let them find out on their own. As a Tesla owner ,I don’t want to queue for a charger because some non Tesla is blocking two chargers.
🤣my car can only charge at max 43kw. Hopefully you don't get stuck behind me🤞
I’ve charged 5 times at Tesla chargers in the last week. No queues, no waiting, unused chargers at all sites, your comment unfounded.
Wait for the holiday season. Especially in Cornwall!
Not my place to say. I tell people what is out there and feel I need to tell people about the largest, cheapest most reliable ultra-rapid charging network in the UK. I am obviously a Tesla owner who has not queued once in the last 2 years and I often go hunting locations that are reported to form queues for videos.
Dave isn’t going to told back information, he wants to be informative and useful otherwise why bother making videos? I’m glad he doesn’t have the same elitist selfish attitude you seem to be embarrassing yourself by demonstrating.
Had a great experience when I last filled my Diesel 4wd recently.
Had a large number of stations to choose from with no waiting and was completely filled in a couple of minutes.
They had a 2 for one special on Kit Kats so I took them up on the offer.
Life is good.
I see your point and you are right.This has to change and it will for EV's Enjoy your small Kit Kat.
😂 I had a similar experience. Fully Charged my EV at work no waiting. Charging at work is completely free so I'm saving over £240 a month. I Didn't get a free Kitkat. I'm going to have to speak with my manager! I do get free tea and Coffee👍
Most EV drivers don’t even have to visit a public charger. They wake up with a tank full each morning. So it’s likely you who is spending more time fuelling up.
@@alanbrad3727 I no longer have to work and haven't for a few years now.
I actually rode a bike for a chunk of my working life and the money saved meant and early release from the prison that is working for a living.
Total cost of ownership is important imo and is one of the reasons we will likely be ordering our next ICE vehicle before much longer.
@@titanjay Yeah but then I want to do more than 20 kms a day when I go away so sitting at a charger when I want to get somewhere.
A can also go for more than 2 hours without a toilet break which is something most EV drivers seem to struggle with.
Also chargers are pretty thin on the ground where I want to go camping, fishing and 4wd'ing.
I am not a fan of Elon Musk personally, though I acknowledge Tesla cars and charging infrastructure are the best ever. It looks like shareholders are ready to grant him $55 Billion as remuneration. Such a distortion to CEO remuneration will have many damaging repercussions. It’s not a healthy situation facing civilisation.
He wont actually be able to spend any of that money if he actually gets approval to incorporate in Texas.. It gives him more stock upto 21% which he cant cash in for at least 10 years. He is also paid nothing at least Steve Jobs was paid $2 a year. Tesla nearly went bankrupt several times after the agreement so it was a massive gamble.
fully agree, an obscene amount, but it was voted for by the shareholders, not me, and they are the true owners of the company. I personally don't like the amount but like even less that fact that a judge over-ruled the legal decisions of the owners and could not indicate what level of remuneration wold be appropriate; presumably something akin to his own salary
He wouldn’t get cash but stock which he couldn’t option for 10 years and he has no salary. The only real winners will be the thrash music drummer with 9 shares and the ambulance chasing lawyers who brought the action. They will become multi millionaires
This is a little bit fanboy 😊. Limited contactless, many closed to all, large areas with no chargers. Lets be fair here, this isnt exactly great. If Tesla really wants to compete, then they need to open all chargers.
They don't need to " compete "
There's an easy available to access all Tesla Superchargers.
@@ziggarillo share price says otherwise
@@dizzydella1Compared to which other EV charging providers?