Projecting Buffalo Bills 2024 target distribution: Where will Josh Allen’s 308 vacated targets go?
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- The Buffalo Bills said goodbye to over 300 over Josh Allen’s targets from 2023. Where are thos throws headed? On today’s episode, Host Joe Marino delivers his projection for the Bills target distribution in 2024. The show is focused on the Buffalo Bills, Sean McDermott, Brandon Beane, Joe Brady, Josh Allen, Dalton Kincaid, Dawson Knox, Quintin Morris, James Cook, Ty Johnson, Ray Davis, Reggie Gilliam, Quintin Morris, Curtis Samuel, Keon Coleman, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Mack Hollins, Chase Claypool, Stefon Diggs, Gabe Davis and more!
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I'm optimistic the Bills will be better this year without Allen feeling pressured to force it to Diggs. Play situational football, take what the defense gives you and Go Bills!!!
I am under that same feeling.
Cup of Joe and Bills talk = great mornings
I think Keon will get a good number of the screens Diggs got last year as well as some quick hitch routes just to get the ball in his hands and let him be elusive. I think he's going to be around 50-60 targets as well. They built a WR room that doesn't require Coleman to be a big contributor this year.
I think 50-60 is right for Keon, I am super curious how Curtis Samuel works out and how he is used
His biggest issue is staying healthy. If he's on the field he's going to make plays.
Nope. Keon is going to be just like NKEAL Harry. A bust. They are like twins....just move him to TE. Can't separate, you can't play receiver in the NFL. It's that simple
@@TheOne-pq3gs You could be right, he is awfully young so his skill set might expand, seems like a really good kid and I'm rooting for him
@@TheOne-pq3gs I won't say bust for a 2nd rounder, but I'd agree that Keon will struggle to get any targets at all this rookie season.
Cook, Shakir, Kincaid are studs on fast rising trajectories. Curtis Samuel is explosive, fully healthy, only 27, has been a good producer on garbage offenses, is primed for a bounce back. MVS is a decent deep route specialist. Dawson Knox is a good TE#2. The Bills drafted an absolute bruiser RB. Factor in JA17's keepers. What's even left for Keon?
Also, being a 2nd round pick relieves the pressure on the coach and OC to feed him. He's a developmental project who may or might not break out.
I personally believe that the offensive targets will be spread around, much like the Saints did during Drew Brees prime. Since Joe Brady is an off shoot of the S. Payton coaching tree the target share was unpredictable game to game. The only viable week to week starters in fantasy football was obviously Drew Brees, then J. Graham, Colston, Sproles and Ingram. The other targets were divided up out of who ever had the hot hand in a particular game,, probably match up based. So moving forward to the Bills, I feel that Shakir, and Kincaid will lead the team in targets both slightly over 100, then the combination of Cooks and Davis around 65, then the remaining will be based on match ups per game.
How is Brady part of Payton? Just curious I hadn’t heard that
@@DeepThinker-gc8nz en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Brady_(American_football_coach)
Good Morning Joe. I feel the Bills receivers are going to be better than last year. The offensive and defensive lines are my questions
I made my own estimates before watching and had surprisingly similar results. I def think Coleman gets more than 55 targets though:
Kincaid: 115 (vs 120)
Knox: 45 (same)
Shakir: 90 (same)
Coleman: 70 (vs 55)
Samuel: 70 (vs 80)
Hollins & Valdes-Scantling share 70 (vs sharing 65)
Cook: 60 (vs 65)
Johnson & Davis share 40 (vs 33)
I also think we will see 10-80 targets between Justin Shorter and Chase Claypoole. Unless they can’t hack it in practice, they’ll be given a chance to compete.
Any of the other 5 WRs could also break out and take a share of targets.
This month drags on man. I need football and I need it now
It is more important to figure how many actual passes and for how many yards that each receiver will catch rather than projected targets.
Expecting a lot of play action, middle of the field is where we will live but you have to threats over the top to keep safeties honest I believe the run game usage is being under estimated. We may see fewer passes this year than we are accustomed to but I believe it will work better than anyone anticipated
Kincaid and Shakir as 1-2 is exactly what I’ve been expecting too
Absolutely pumped for this
120 or so Kincaid
90 Shakir
80 Samuel + 25-30 rush touches
Nailed it man
Kincaid the only one I'm certain will get catches...don't think that will change much from last year
@@chrismiller5875 what?
Tell me who else is going to catch it then?
I like the way they are over looking Josh big year for Josh
Joe, as usual, your podcast is once again thought-provoking.
I'm a daily viewer, and would be lost, were it not for your in depth analytics and outside of the box thinking.
With all that being said, I have to disagree with your estimation of targets regarding Kincaid and Knox.
Its all but obvious that Kincaid had a stellar, record setting rookie season last year. Its easy to see how you came up with 120 targets projected for Kincaid next season. Kincaid is clearly now TE1 with Knox taking the backseat. But i say, NOT SO FAST!!!!
We have to consider a few factors that led to Kincaid's remarkable rookie season. These are simply the facts. Bills opponents last season were expecting Dawson Knox to be targeted regularly throughout the game and NOT Kincaid. If you look at his stats, a majority of his success came early on in the season. There were plays when the bills ran 12 personell and Knox would draw most of the coverage and Kincaid was allowed to run free. Teams were expecting a highly productive PRO BOWL Dawson Knox to make the big plays he had been making in seasons past.
I love Kincaid and I DO believe he has the potential to become another Travis Kelsey. But that shouldn't negate how incredibly good Dawson Knox has been amd still very much is.
Every team the Bills face in the upcoming season with almost certainly double team Kincaid to prevent him from doing the damage he did last year. This will obviously open things up for Knox. With Knox playing at full health (no broken hand) and teams forcing you to beat them without Kincaid, look for Knox to return to form and maybe even challenge Kincaid for the most receptions and TDs. I know this probably sounds insane to you, but I think Kincaid gets about 80 to 90 targets and knox gets 60 to 80 targets.
I'm tired of hearing everybody basically closing the book on Knox because of Kincaids rookie success. There are still chapters to be written in the Dawson Knox/ Buffalo Bills love story.
sounds solid. well thought out
Hi Joe, great podcast! I like this years receivers more than last years. Diggs was great, but if you stopped him you stopped the Bills. Who will the defense against us try and take away, we will most likely target the best matchup which should lead lead to more success
Enjoyed the show as usual.
Wondering if anyone writes the predictions down and checks them at the end of the season?
You should do an episode on what bonus incentives different players have/ what they need to get in order to get it
MVS dosent get much if he dosent match some of his higher output of the past
I guess I'm the outlier. I think Keon will struggle to get targets this year.
Shakir, Kincaid, and Cook are studs, all finished the year trending upward, steeply. Curtis Samuel is only 27, blazing fast, and fully healthy. He's been a solid producer despite playing in garbage QB/OC/HC situations. How will he fit in to an elite offense? I see breakout. That leaves Keon to compete with MVS for 5th option, which I see Keon winning out by late season.
DDawk getting at least 4
This exercise is a total crapshoot so I appreciate the thought process and projections. So much has been said about YAC over the years. Shakir, Cook, Samuel and Davis are the guys I look for the Bills/Brady to scheme effectively for YAC. As such, I see Cook getting less than your projection and Davis more than your projection. Kincaid is the guy who gets the most targets and Shakir/Samuel a close second/ third. Coleman is a massive wildcard and fans how think this guy is ready to take a lion's share of targets is going to be disappointed. Coleman needs time to figure out the offense and time for Josh Allen to trust he will be where he wants at the time he expects him to be there.
Ball control and move it down the field with consistency. Stay away from those brutal 3rd and longs.
I always like this podcast!!
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Sounds about right, I’d maybe say kincade gets slightly higher, maybe closer to 130. But that quibbling
I think that for this particular kind of offense and the way that it’s being built, it’s going to be a hot hand approach. Meaning it’s impossible to really calculate anybody’s usage.. that being said I’m not gonna for sure say anything until training camp is over kind of like what you were saying Joe. Because somebody might separate themselves from the rest and that might change the offense moving forward
This is definitely a based sort of take imo. I agree in principle, but Kincaid is going to get 120+. Kincaid and Shakir will probably get 160-180 combined. The rest will be more like what you describe and largely game plan dependent.
Good morning!
Considering, as Joe correctly pointed out, Josh likes to throw to guys he trusts. With that, I think Knox gets a bit more than 45, otherwise I can see this distribution as how things shake out this season.
With as much turnover as the bills have had this off season they are probably going to be finding their identity week to week for a while. Who knows they may run the ball way more than expected
I loved it, but I'm thinking 100 kincaid, and a 100 for Samuel.
Why is he only getting 100?? He had 90+ as a rookie…
He’s going 120 easy
If Dawson Knox gets as many targets this season as Shakir did last sesson and Cook gets more than last year, Im concerned the Bills will have a lot of stalled drives. Lets hope not.
Stop
Josh will never win anything. No Super Bowl. No AFC Championship. No MVP.
close....just substitute @aaronbutler9373 and now you have #facts
Haters gonna hate. You're obviously clueless. Allen is the best qb in football. Better stats than both Mahomes and the Affirmative Action MVP award "winner" joke Lamar Jackson. Allen was the REAL MVP homey. Get it straight! Oh and Super Bowls are TEAM accomplishments. Lamar had a better and healthy defense and shite the bed versus KC's vaunted defense. Allen had 3 tds 0 turnovers vs that defense. It was just that our defense was decimated with injuries. Only thing Bills don't have is luck. But we will overcome that and you'll still just be an ignorant hater. Dueces ✌ chump.
@@BillsMafiaExperience
Josh is DEI hire. He is low IQ and can't lead real men. Hence he leads NFL in turnovers (102) since he entered NFL. Lamar Jackson is 58-19 career. He's 4th all time win percentage. On way to be 1st all time. Lamar is Hall of Fame without winning a Super Bowl. Josh is a media concoction. Nothing more.
😂😂😂 this won’t age well. Haters gonna hate.
Is this an automated account? I’ve seen this phrase copied and pasted at least 15 times across many videos.
I think Colman will get 80 plus targets
Good morning Joe love your show... We are going to be good this year and better than our critics think.... Going to be rough start (maybe not 🙏🦬) we are going to kick A!! This year🎉🎉... Let's GOOOOOOOOOO 🦬 spot on I think also....