I’m not sure there wasn’t 6 wolves on the court last night. As a Denver fan that was soul crushing. Never seen Jokic get blocked, get blocked; get blocked, miss, then duck in 7 seconds in a game in my life.
Murray needs to stop forcing his offense, he's done it all playoffs so far. MPjr probably could've helped win that first game if murray stopped chucking shots
@@truebrowncanadian Murray plays too prideful.. he sees there is a good defender on him and he wants to prove that he can score on him, but he actually can't Wolves are way bigger and stronger than Murray
As a Wolves fan, I don’t want to see Jamal Murray suspended. I want this Nuggets team as fully loaded as possible so we don’t have to hear the “oh well yeah, but so and so was out, etc”. That being said, I’m with Legs here. I can’t imagine a scenario where he’s not suspended for a game and receives a significant fine. If it was a fan that threw not one, but TWO items towards the court, they would have not only been ejected from the stadium, but almost certainly banned from attending games for the foreseeable future, if not permanently. Obviously I don’t think Jamal should be banned from the league, but the point remains. This could have resulted in a devastating injury that altered not only this series, but the rest of the postseason as well. I believe it’s imperative that the league makes something of an example out of Murray and lets other players know that this type of action is completely unacceptable.
as a knicks fan i love how honest and detail-oriented legs always is. i don't blame any fans for being frustrated by how these games are being called - they shouldn't be the determining factor in the final 2 minutes of ANY postseason game. like why can't you review kicked balls? it honestly just doesn't make any sense but it is what it is.
Just watched the Dallas game and they gave SGA 20 foul shots. They called one on DJ when the only contact was SGA kicking him in the balls. I’ve never seen anything like the way they protect him. After watching MN maul Denver and being told contact is part of the playoffs I am just disinterested in the rest. No consistency at all so you don’t get to see the best from both teams.
@@SDesWriter bro that okc/dallas game was borderline unwatchable there was a point in the 1st half where sga had more ft than the entire mavs team. just disgusting shit honestly
@@winterfoxcloud he had more free throws in the first half than he had drives to the basket. He’s one of the league leaders at 7 1/2 per game and he had 11 or 12 in the first half. it’s not why the Mavericks lost, but without the refs keeping them in the game you might’ve seen a tighter Oklahoma team if they’re down 10 or 15 in the third quarter. It’s always easier to play from ahead
Listen at the end of the day EVERY team in the NBA will suffer from a poorly officiated game. Knicks have had their fair share. Just gotta move on and play to win the game. 🤷🏾♂️
I love the pack analogy it’s spot on. It’s so crazy that the wolves are making these teams and players that everyone thought were great (rightfully so) look soooo bad.
Got to give the Wolves full credit for playing great so far; I felt analysts were way too confident in the Nuggets before the series with Murray banged up. But that performance by Denver was one of the worst, most gutless I've ever seen from a defending champion in a playoff game. No heart or fight whatsoever. Obviously, the series is over. The Jokic era Nuggets have always been best when their backs are against the wall but there was no sign of that spirit yesterday at all. Worst thing besides losing is that this will discredit last year's run in a lot of fans' minds. And Jokic will get his MVP Wednesday after playing two of the worst games of his career. Narratives gonna run wild.
First one was not the worst games of his career, it was just a bad one for his standards. They really don't care about narratives and no one can discredit what they did last year. You will always have idiots bringing up their opinions.
@@mike100stdo you know how many players haven’t lost two crazy important games this season? Fuckin zero. And it’s a regular season award, so just shut up.
Denver’s problem is 5 specialists on offense. When their offense is going wrong, there’s no one to step up. I’ve never seen anyone in the NBA with less basketball instincts than Porter. When he gets 15 open looks from 3 in a game, he dominates. When he tries penatrating or helping with the ball movement it’s terrible shots, running into traffic and turnovers. Gordon is useless outside of going to the rim for a pass or lob. KCP is mediocre unless he’s open. They built a team for one style and just can’t alter it to compete with the way MN is playing. Too much on Joker’s back.
@@SDesWriter I agree, it looks really bad at the moment. I guess couching stuff is playing a big part as well. I hope DEN will try to adjust and try something different in game 3. You can't expect different outcome with same approach.
I think this series is proving why the killer mentality is not just some useless thing Kobe and MJ fans just harp on. Ant is the first guy to really emulate that since and you are seeing the effect it has on his teammates and winning rather than just straight statistical output
2 minutes before they called Turner for the illegal screen they gifted Nesmith 2 free throws when he flopped while Donte was trying to fight over his screen. Same official made both calls. Donte took not. Sell the illegal screen and he will call it. 160 IQ play
Good point, but without murray, denver might actually only lose by 5 instead of 20.. murray when he's cold is a big negative and he apparently doesn't want to play defense.
I wish I could say I'm surprised, but we've been through this a few seasons now with the Nuggets. As long as the starting 5 are in top shape, they are great. But if even one of them is injured or absent, the team can't function properly. As soon as that calf strain news broke, my confidence took a massive hit. Malone has to have the balls to bench Murray, or he can go down with the ship, his choice.
@@rohw0016 All the more evidence that it actually doesn't really matter who the opponents are. This isn't really about the Timberwolves, it's about how the Nuggets are constructed.
Denver is being destroyed with pace in the wolves defence .. Jamal and Jokic way too slow. Jokic hardly moves. He is able piroutte on one spot as oppose to handling and dribbling the ball quickly. They have figured him out and we are seeing it right in front of our very eyes. Quite possibly a sweep.
It felt like the nuggets were relaxing when the game wasn’t 18-4. Like that was their accomplishment, which is bad coaching imo. the wolves pounced on that relaxation in a historic way. And let’s admit, Jokic doesn’t want to be there with the way he is playing. He is getting out played by KAT and if we are being honest, he was outplayed by AD. And I hope someone calls him out on his defense cause he set the tone for the rest of the starters
To already lose at home and then come out with that type of effort is demoralizing. Mentally they are spiraling! A lot of pressure to defend the ring b
That Defense looked like robots on a literally on string. Jaden Mcdaniels and Naz Reif made me hate that whole team in a single half of basketball. I won’t be getting over it ever, either. Gonna duck out on the enjoyment of the Ant era. I’ll be cursing his name well into his retirement.
What a baseless statement for legs to say of Haliburton scores 16 they win by 8? You make it seem like him getting to 16 doesn’t affect other events in the game. They shot over 50% from the field. That’s great.
We're in quicksand. It's feeling like the old days again. Not sure what to expect from game 3, I hope we don't get punked again. I admire the Wolves have such a swarming defense. ANT seems like he's hitting a high note through this stretch, the Wolves remind me a little (in their dominance) of the Nuggets last year.
It's not on the Nuggets that higher seeded teams weren't able to be the last man standing. That's on the teams that lost. We're the reigning champs, that's a fact. This year is more relevant and there are new kids on the block. Arguing that Nuggets aren't good enough to be champions makes more sense if you focus on examples that support that argument. What's going on now is relevant, and you have a better argument focusing on the current moment.
@@jadedlynx I simply said it was the weakest competition I have ever seen a champ had to face and I have watched every NBA finals since 1965. They have faced two teams and Denver has been lackluster. Is it the fact that the competition is better or are people overrating them based on last year’s performance.
@@jadedlynx Honestly, I thought Denver was going to win game 2. When the Nugget’s couldn’t score in 11 straight possessions in the second qtr I was shocked. What the Wolve’s figured out is up to this point the Nugget’s can’t handle ball pressure. Jokic has always kind of reminded me of Big Country in college when he was just bigger than everyone. The Nugget’s are almost always bigger than everyone in this positionless basketball. This is the first time they are smaller and slower than their opposition. This is a really difficult matchup.
We don’t even have the depth for a real significant adjustment in game 3. Gonna have to look at some retooling in the off season. I’ll be THRILLED if we lose in 6 and relieved if we can push it to 5.
I still think they should start Braun. His offense is shit but he’s the only guy on the team who can play chaotically. He’s also better on defense against physical players than KCP. Let Pope keep the 2nd unit from being a trainwreck on offense and give the first unit a chance to be less predictable. This Wolves team was THIRD in the regular season. It’s obvious this dominance comes from studying tendencies and being ready to disrupt what they know is coming.
MN is built to stop heliocentric teams. The adjustment is to initiate your offense with someone that isnt your primary. The Suns and Denver lack a true PG.
Tim, I usually receive your takes as really fair. How can you say that there was almost no contact on that illegal screen by Turner, when he ran directly at him to set the screen, and never fully stopped as he bumped into him as soon as Donte turned to run and chase the ball handler. Everything isn't a flop... Also, if you want the refs to call this foul you think Donte committed on a screen, then have that same energy for the fouls in the paint that weren't called for Brunson. Calls are missed all the time, and refs choose files not to call all the time. That's not why they lost. We won because of our 48 min effort, and our Nova Knicks coming up big when it mattered most.
Mike Malone better make an all time adjustment for game 3. Put Murray to the bench and KCP and start Braun and Watson with Joker, MPJ and Gordon. It literally is the only move. If it works it will change series. If if doesn’t. Say it with me 1,2,3 Cancun!
off topic - We live in a fallen world! Draymond can be seen on camera cold cocking his teammate with all his might like he is an enemy on the streets threatening him and months later Kia uses him as a sponsor in commercial? Yet Nike drops Kyrie, who has been nothing but a great teammate wherever he goes because of that movie link he posted, even though his shoes were top rated making them MILLIONS. He is transparent about some of his immature thoughts And behaviors in his mid-twenties as he matriculated into his 30s as an even MORE solid, well-rounded individual. As he stated in his recent post-game presser he has ALWAYS been about helping others; even as a child. He never talks about his Philanthropy but he's done SO much! but media has tried to portray him as some type of cancer to the sport or society in general. Misguided and sheep individuals have rolled with that narrative as if it's rocket science to take a deeper look. I am of course happy that he has new witnesses in Maverick fans, but i know human nature! I can just imagine these same fans hating him before getting to know him the past several months. Funny how fandom is right? Because they are now FORCED to cheer for him since he's on their team I sometimes cringe when I read their glowing commentary on podcasts. They act like he's a totally different person now than he was with Brooklyn. And even though he's a free thinker I can just imagine how stressful or disheartening it can be for someone with his character to be excoriated by the sheep. Thank God for his spirituality strong family and utilization of therapeutic intervention, that has to be a lot to deal with even for a multi millionaire w the most iconic shot in NBA finals history. As a mental health service provider it was also great to hear him give a shout out to his therapist during that post-game presser. Lastly, because there's so much insecurity and hatred in the world people will hold on to that false narrative about this honorable man. Unless of course, he happens to play for their favorite team SMHH!!!!
Brunson also destroyed the nesmith matchup in the regular season. Something like 1.3 points per possession in the PnR. He’s not disciplined enough and his defensive footwork is way too poor to successfully guard Brunson
@@jk11536 I don't get why basketball experts don't look into the stats before they make these claims. Just because a guy has length and athleticism doesn't mean he'd be a good defender against Brunson. You need smarts and discipline. That's why Batum was great and Tobias was ass.
Legs it's stupid when you say if halliburton scored eight more points they would have been up by eight. You don't take into account for other shots that were taken that he didn't take. That's the same as if Randle was playing, we would have won by 25 since that's his average
You cant manufacture intensity on both sides of the ball on the fly. The Wolves have been learning to play intense on both sides without fouling for years now. The Nuggets only way to counter is to do so. Theyre cooked bro
Brunson is currently 10th for single playoffs ppg on elite efficiency. Elgin Baylor and Brunson are the only non MVPs. In the top 10. We are witnessing history.
I love Brunson but he has had TERRIBLE efficiency so far. He is shooting 44% FG and 30% from 3 this post season. He's at 54.5 TS% when the league average is 58%. Jalen is a great player and doing special things in NY. I truly think he's already surpassed Melo in terms of playoff success there. But saying "elite efficiency" could not be further from the truth
Nugetts will be the 1st team to win after going down 3-0. They will be the 1st ones in the NBA to come back from an 0-3 deficit, to win it all. They are just playing Possum!!! lol
its a happy family now, bron the nephew nugs aree sons timbs are daddy's and fans will forget how the nba is a distraction form the government shocking the life out of its citizens, i hope people enjoy the games, because they will be starving in 1 to 2 years and none of these teams will donate their millions to feed the starving. im my own team, i root for me!. only suckers identify themselves with politicians sports teams and celebrities.
If it winds up being OKC and the Timberwolves in the finals I can’t wait to see what happens with the referees. They refused to call any fouls on the Timberwolves no matter how hard they hit Denver while the Mavericks were called for 25 touch files in the first half alone. The NBA has a serious referee problem and it’s gonna come to a head when SGA is expecting those bailout calls on his 15 drives to the basket. The man had more foul shots than shot attempts in the first half. They didn’t even protect Jordan like this. Gonna have to start calling him Princess because the refs are going to call a foul if you don’t genuflect as he’s driving for a layup…..
Legs come on man the screen is illegal right even after review the diff is if that screen happens any time up to the two min mark in the fourth quarter in a few possession game they don’t call it cause a 5-4 advantage early in any game doesn’t decide the outcome but a 5-4 advantage on a illegal screen with under a min to go could decide an outcome
Lmao Legler relax big guy. Screens are the most inconsistently refereed play in the NBA. Yeah the call wasn’t great but the whistle was consistent all night. Indiana’s execution down the stretch was very poor and that’s on Haliburton. Only reason they cut into the lead was a Nesmith flop while setting a screen! The ref excuse is getting in the way of the game. Pacers left meat on the bone and can’t do that against a team that never quits
Minnesota’s defense best I’ve seen and been going to 30+ games yearly center court row 9/11/13 since 1987-88 (Reggie Miller rookies year). PS Anyone who objectively watched the game saw pacers get robbed by the refs throughout the game. Also Haliburton is clearly playin hurt (hamstring & back spasms..came back way too early from hamstring injury to get all nba 45 million 65 game minimum bonus). He’s been questionable with back spasms for a reason, wears that black back brace stimulation thing for a reason and most importantly his first 32 games he was top 5 MVP candidate who AVERAGED 24, 13, 5, 2 stocks on 51/40/88! No player EVER had averages 13+ apg with that many points per game! Since Jan 8 injury his stats and efficiency PLUMMET from those amazing stats above to 15, 9, 4 1.5 stocks on 44/29/85. He’s not close to the same player. All that said Pacers objectively were robbed game 1. Haliburton made a shot with 0.1-0.2 on shot clock they didn’t count (or go back and change), pacers only 3 FTA first 33 mins vs Brunson 9 FTA (Knicks 16). Turner was hacked by Brunson that should of been 2 FTA and they inexplicably overturned it which left the announcers stunned! Then with 50 seconds left game tied NeSmith steals ball WITH HIS HAND to start fast break where they probably take 2 point lead with 45 seconds left, but instead INEXPLICABLY call it a KICKED BALL?!?? They then hit 3 to go up with 40 seconds when it should of been down 2 with 45 seconds left! Then the BS illegal screen on Turner with 12 seconds left with DD flopping. The UConn Iowa wasn’t even close to worse then that 1. In that game she was clearly moving and stuck her arm out (after illegal screen not called on DD a minute before that). This one Turner didn’t do any of that. Divencenzo flop was criminal and it was rewarded. Also I didn’t think it was a kick live you clearly saw it was his hand. I said before series the whistle would be bad, but I didn’t think it’d be THAT bad. I also said who would have more FTA Brunson or Siakam Hali Turner COMBINED?!? Game 1 Brunson 14 vs 10 for Pacers 3 best players. Brunson’s whistle is one of best best I’ve ever seen with flopping up there with Trae Young, Harden, Embiid. He’s a great player, but his whistle is embarrassing many times. Then he bites on pump fake for Turner and LANDS on him but they overturn it?!? This game clearly made it look like NBA wants NY vs Boston in ECF especially with superstars Lebron Curry Giannis Durant Embiid etc already out of playoffs.
SMHH! the HECK??!! joker exposed and Luka a BUSTER recently ..SHOULD bounce back game 2...if not, the European takeover is DONE! w him and joker ousted! media gonna cry! ✊🏿💪🏿🙏🏿
Threat game was rigged from start to finish so many 4 five point swings on questionable calls all throughout the game … every time the whistle stopped Pacers went up by 8-12
You’re choosing to ignore the illegal screen called on donte at 2:30 in the fourth or ihart screen in the 1st. All media is conveniently no brining that up
I’m not sure there wasn’t 6 wolves on the court last night. As a Denver fan that was soul crushing. Never seen Jokic get blocked, get blocked; get blocked, miss, then duck in 7 seconds in a game in my life.
Murray needs to stop forcing his offense, he's done it all playoffs so far. MPjr probably could've helped win that first game if murray stopped chucking shots
@@truebrowncanadian Murray plays too prideful.. he sees there is a good defender on him and he wants to prove that he can score on him, but he actually can't
Wolves are way bigger and stronger than Murray
Wolve's pressure affecting the shot clock is a great take.
Legs absolutely roasting the Nuggets and Murray all day on national media lol. Poor Adam 😂
“Emasculating”😂
As a Wolves fan, I don’t want to see Jamal Murray suspended. I want this Nuggets team as fully loaded as possible so we don’t have to hear the “oh well yeah, but so and so was out, etc”. That being said, I’m with Legs here. I can’t imagine a scenario where he’s not suspended for a game and receives a significant fine. If it was a fan that threw not one, but TWO items towards the court, they would have not only been ejected from the stadium, but almost certainly banned from attending games for the foreseeable future, if not permanently. Obviously I don’t think Jamal should be banned from the league, but the point remains. This could have resulted in a devastating injury that altered not only this series, but the rest of the postseason as well. I believe it’s imperative that the league makes something of an example out of Murray and lets other players know that this type of action is completely unacceptable.
no suspension, just a Rudy fine
as a knicks fan i love how honest and detail-oriented legs always is. i don't blame any fans for being frustrated by how these games are being called - they shouldn't be the determining factor in the final 2 minutes of ANY postseason game.
like why can't you review kicked balls? it honestly just doesn't make any sense but it is what it is.
Just watched the Dallas game and they gave SGA 20 foul shots. They called one on DJ when the only contact was SGA kicking him in the balls. I’ve never seen anything like the way they protect him. After watching MN maul Denver and being told contact is part of the playoffs I am just disinterested in the rest. No consistency at all so you don’t get to see the best from both teams.
@@SDesWriter bro that okc/dallas game was borderline unwatchable
there was a point in the 1st half where sga had more ft than the entire mavs team. just disgusting shit honestly
@@winterfoxcloud he had more free throws in the first half than he had drives to the basket. He’s one of the league leaders at 7 1/2 per game and he had 11 or 12 in the first half. it’s not why the Mavericks lost, but without the refs keeping them in the game you might’ve seen a tighter Oklahoma team if they’re down 10 or 15 in the third quarter.
It’s always easier to play from ahead
Listen at the end of the day EVERY team in the NBA will suffer from a poorly officiated game. Knicks have had their fair share. Just gotta move on and play to win the game. 🤷🏾♂️
I love the pack analogy it’s spot on. It’s so crazy that the wolves are making these teams and players that everyone thought were great (rightfully so) look soooo bad.
Got to give the Wolves full credit for playing great so far; I felt analysts were way too confident in the Nuggets before the series with Murray banged up. But that performance by
Denver was one of the worst, most gutless I've ever seen from a defending champion in a playoff game. No heart or fight whatsoever. Obviously, the series is over. The Jokic era Nuggets have always been best when their backs are against the wall but there was no sign of that spirit yesterday at all. Worst thing besides losing is that this will discredit last year's run in a lot of fans' minds. And Jokic will get his MVP Wednesday after playing two of the worst games of his career. Narratives gonna run wild.
Crazy 2 important games joke lost and he's the mvp?
First one was not the worst games of his career, it was just a bad one for his standards.
They really don't care about narratives and no one can discredit what they did last year. You will always have idiots bringing up their opinions.
@@mike100stdo you know how many players haven’t lost two crazy important games this season? Fuckin zero. And it’s a regular season award, so just shut up.
Denver’s problem is 5 specialists on offense. When their offense is going wrong, there’s no one to step up. I’ve never seen anyone in the NBA with less basketball instincts than Porter. When he gets 15 open looks from 3 in a game, he dominates. When he tries penatrating or helping with the ball movement it’s terrible shots, running into traffic and turnovers. Gordon is useless outside of going to the rim for a pass or lob. KCP is mediocre unless he’s open.
They built a team for one style and just can’t alter it to compete with the way MN is playing. Too much on Joker’s back.
@@SDesWriter I agree, it looks really bad at the moment. I guess couching stuff is playing a big part as well. I hope DEN will try to adjust and try something different in game 3. You can't expect different outcome with same approach.
I think this series is proving why the killer mentality is not just some useless thing Kobe and MJ fans just harp on. Ant is the first guy to really emulate that since and you are seeing the effect it has on his teammates and winning rather than just straight statistical output
It was crazy seeing multiple 24 second violations by the nuggets..wolves went absolutely feral on defense
Brunson became perfect in the 4th. Those key buckets barely grazed the bottom of the net.
Murray literally threw in the towel.
And couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with his shooting
😂 aye fr
Jalen Brunson is quickly becoming the greatest Knick ever in real time both on AND off the court dude is just NY af
Pacers got screwed tho🤪
That being said JB is making the Sac Kings look to have made the correct decision keeping Fox 🦊
@@TCRgalaxyhuh
Next year when they get bounced in the 1st round y’all will call him a choker 🤷🏾♂️
Greatest Knick ever? Slow down
2 minutes before they called Turner for the illegal screen they gifted Nesmith 2 free throws when he flopped while Donte was trying to fight over his screen. Same official made both calls. Donte took not. Sell the illegal screen and he will call it. 160 IQ play
This was therapeutic to listen to as a Denver fan
Great show, thanks!
Jokic's lack of competitiveness is shocking. Never seen an all-time great be so passive when his team needed him.
Denver needs real depth and another great ball handler. Keep our best 3 recent acquisitions and move on some better stronger role players.
If Embid didn’t get suspended for pulling a guy out the air by his leg we’re not suspended Murray. Play on
Good point, but without murray, denver might actually only lose by 5 instead of 20.. murray when he's cold is a big negative and he apparently doesn't want to play defense.
Do I think Murray should be suspended? No.
Would his suspension be doing my Nuggets a favor? Hell yes
I wish I could say I'm surprised, but we've been through this a few seasons now with the Nuggets.
As long as the starting 5 are in top shape, they are great. But if even one of them is injured or absent, the team can't function properly.
As soon as that calf strain news broke, my confidence took a massive hit.
Malone has to have the balls to bench Murray, or he can go down with the ship, his choice.
And the Wolves were without their 3timeDPOY 💀
@@rohw0016 All the more evidence that it actually doesn't really matter who the opponents are. This isn't really about the Timberwolves, it's about how the Nuggets are constructed.
Denver is being destroyed with pace in the wolves defence .. Jamal and Jokic way too slow. Jokic hardly moves. He is able piroutte on one spot as oppose to handling and dribbling the ball quickly. They have figured him out and we are seeing it right in front of our very eyes. Quite possibly a sweep.
love legler. this is a brilliant get-together. so nice to hear thought in the world of Steven A Smith hollow hype
Put Deandre Jordan in the game.
Jokic isn’t going to survive playing against 3 giants all series.
Starters: Jokic, Gordon, Jordan, MPJ, KCP
Braun over Gordon. Pg. Braun SG. KCP SF. MPJ Pf. Joker C. DeAndre
Funny thing is Shaq was able to survive and then some.
It felt like the nuggets were relaxing when the game wasn’t 18-4. Like that was their accomplishment, which is bad coaching imo. the wolves pounced on that relaxation in a historic way. And let’s admit, Jokic doesn’t want to be there with the way he is playing. He is getting out played by KAT and if we are being honest, he was outplayed by AD. And I hope someone calls him out on his defense cause he set the tone for the rest of the starters
Wolves hunted and devoured Nuggets last night
To already lose at home and then come out with that type of effort is demoralizing. Mentally they are spiraling! A lot of pressure to defend the ring b
I can see Jamal getting suspended then Jokic goes God mode and , Denver win game 3
That Defense looked like robots on a literally on string. Jaden Mcdaniels and Naz Reif made me hate that whole team in a single half of basketball. I won’t be getting over it ever, either. Gonna duck out on the enjoyment of the Ant era. I’ll be cursing his name well into his retirement.
What a baseless statement for legs to say of Haliburton scores 16 they win by 8? You make it seem like him getting to 16 doesn’t affect other events in the game. They shot over 50% from the field. That’s great.
We're in quicksand. It's feeling like the old days again. Not sure what to expect from game 3, I hope we don't get punked again. I admire the Wolves have such a swarming defense. ANT seems like he's hitting a high note through this stretch, the Wolves remind me a little (in their dominance) of the Nuggets last year.
The Nuggets had the weakest competition of any NBA champ I have eer seen. Two eight seeds, a seven seed and a 4th seed.
It's not on the Nuggets that higher seeded teams weren't able to be the last man standing. That's on the teams that lost. We're the reigning champs, that's a fact. This year is more relevant and there are new kids on the block. Arguing that Nuggets aren't good enough to be champions makes more sense if you focus on examples that support that argument. What's going on now is relevant, and you have a better argument focusing on the current moment.
@@jadedlynx I simply said it was the weakest competition I have ever seen a champ had to face and I have watched every NBA finals since 1965.
They have faced two teams and Denver has been lackluster. Is it the fact that the competition is better or are people overrating them based on last year’s performance.
@@Gnofg fair enough, I feel defensive with us getting clowned by Wolves They’re a great team.
@@jadedlynx Honestly, I thought Denver was going to win game 2. When the Nugget’s couldn’t score in 11 straight possessions in the second qtr I was shocked.
What the Wolve’s figured out is up to this point the Nugget’s can’t handle ball pressure.
Jokic has always kind of reminded me of Big Country in college when he was just bigger than everyone. The Nugget’s are almost always bigger than everyone in this positionless basketball.
This is the first time they are smaller and slower than their opposition.
This is a really difficult matchup.
Legler is too kind saying ‘when they got into their sets’. I’m not sure that ever really happened on an offensive possession.
We don’t even have the depth for a real significant adjustment in game 3. Gonna have to look at some retooling in the off season. I’ll be THRILLED if we lose in 6 and relieved if we can push it to 5.
I still think they should start Braun. His offense is shit but he’s the only guy on the team who can play chaotically. He’s also better on defense against physical players than KCP. Let Pope keep the 2nd unit from being a trainwreck on offense and give the first unit a chance to be less predictable.
This Wolves team was THIRD in the regular season. It’s obvious this dominance comes from studying tendencies and being ready to disrupt what they know is coming.
MN is built to stop heliocentric teams. The adjustment is to initiate your offense with someone that isnt your primary. The Suns and Denver lack a true PG.
Mavs in 6.
Cant let Tim down.
Even so i see us lose tonight
Cool to see legs outside of espn.
Knicks 25-5 with OG.
Tim, I usually receive your takes as really fair. How can you say that there was almost no contact on that illegal screen by Turner, when he ran directly at him to set the screen, and never fully stopped as he bumped into him as soon as Donte turned to run and chase the ball handler. Everything isn't a flop... Also, if you want the refs to call this foul you think Donte committed on a screen, then have that same energy for the fouls in the paint that weren't called for Brunson. Calls are missed all the time, and refs choose files not to call all the time. That's not why they lost. We won because of our 48 min effort, and our Nova Knicks coming up big when it mattered most.
Mike Malone better make an all time adjustment for game 3.
Put Murray to the bench and KCP and start Braun and Watson with Joker, MPJ and Gordon.
It literally is the only move.
If it works it will change series.
If if doesn’t.
Say it with me 1,2,3 Cancun!
Let’s go nuggets
Fully loaded yes
off topic - We live in a fallen world! Draymond can be seen on camera cold cocking his teammate with all his might like he is an enemy on the streets threatening him and months later Kia uses him as a sponsor in commercial? Yet Nike drops Kyrie, who has been nothing but a great teammate wherever he goes because of that movie link he posted, even though his shoes were top rated making them MILLIONS. He is transparent about some of his immature thoughts And behaviors in his mid-twenties as he matriculated into his 30s as an even MORE solid, well-rounded individual. As he stated in his recent post-game presser he has ALWAYS been about helping others; even as a child. He never talks about his Philanthropy but he's done SO much! but media has tried to portray him as some type of cancer to the sport or society in general. Misguided and sheep individuals have rolled with that narrative as if it's rocket science to take a deeper look. I am of course happy that he has new witnesses in Maverick fans, but i know human nature! I can just imagine these same fans hating him before getting to know him the past several months. Funny how fandom is right? Because they are now FORCED to cheer for him since he's on their team I sometimes cringe when I read their glowing commentary on podcasts. They act like he's a totally different person now than he was with Brooklyn. And even though he's a free thinker I can just imagine how stressful or disheartening it can be for someone with his character to be excoriated by the sheep. Thank God for his spirituality strong family and utilization of therapeutic intervention, that has to be a lot to deal with even for a multi millionaire w the most iconic shot in NBA finals history. As a mental health service provider it was also great to hear him give a shout out to his therapist during that post-game presser. Lastly, because there's so much insecurity and hatred in the world people will hold on to that false narrative about this honorable man. Unless of course, he happens to play for their favorite team SMHH!!!!
Brunson would foul Nesmith out in the first half. Leading into this game Brunson was 8 of 12 when guarded by Nesmith with 3 fouls drawn.
Brunson also destroyed the nesmith matchup in the regular season. Something like 1.3 points per possession in the PnR. He’s not disciplined enough and his defensive footwork is way too poor to successfully guard Brunson
@@jk11536 I don't get why basketball experts don't look into the stats before they make these claims. Just because a guy has length and athleticism doesn't mean he'd be a good defender against Brunson. You need smarts and discipline. That's why Batum was great and Tobias was ass.
Legs it's stupid when you say if halliburton scored eight more points they would have been up by eight. You don't take into account for other shots that were taken that he didn't take. That's the same as if Randle was playing, we would have won by 25 since that's his average
Its great we get the calls because in Philly we didn't get any
You cant manufacture intensity on both sides of the ball on the fly. The Wolves have been learning to play intense on both sides without fouling for years now. The Nuggets only way to counter is to do so. Theyre cooked bro
Brunson is currently 10th for single playoffs ppg on elite efficiency. Elgin Baylor and Brunson are the only non MVPs. In the top 10. We are witnessing history.
44% is not elite effcicneny lol.Antman is elite efficiency
I love Brunson but he has had TERRIBLE efficiency so far. He is shooting 44% FG and 30% from 3 this post season. He's at 54.5 TS% when the league average is 58%.
Jalen is a great player and doing special things in NY. I truly think he's already surpassed Melo in terms of playoff success there. But saying "elite efficiency" could not be further from the truth
Funny to see the Jokic fan club just glossing over the fact he has been outplayed by Davis in the first round and now Ant
Lol funny when goofs name dollarize spread his own narratives online when in actuality he's just a clown
Jokic was best player in that series and it is not even in question 🤡
@@WhiteGuyMike Ant had one bad game but has still been the best player in the playoffs this year but go off i guess
Nugetts will be the 1st team to win after going down 3-0. They will be the 1st ones in the NBA to come back from an 0-3 deficit, to win it all. They are just playing Possum!!! lol
More likely you'll wake up and find democracy in north Korea 😂
its a happy family now, bron the nephew nugs aree sons timbs are daddy's and fans will forget how the nba is a distraction form the government shocking the life out of its citizens, i hope people enjoy the games, because they will be starving in 1 to 2 years and none of these teams will donate their millions to feed the starving. im my own team, i root for me!. only suckers identify themselves with politicians sports teams and celebrities.
😂😂 the nuggets are cooked 👨🍳
Knicks gonna b NBA CHAMPIONS!!!
Nembhard is bad matchup on Jalen, not quick enough. Bad coaching as it was very obvious.
If it winds up being OKC and the Timberwolves in the finals I can’t wait to see what happens with the referees. They refused to call any fouls on the Timberwolves no matter how hard they hit Denver while the Mavericks were called for 25 touch files in the first half alone. The NBA has a serious referee problem and it’s gonna come to a head when SGA is expecting those bailout calls on his 15 drives to the basket.
The man had more foul shots than shot attempts in the first half. They didn’t even protect Jordan like this. Gonna have to start calling him Princess because the refs are going to call a foul if you don’t genuflect as he’s driving for a layup…..
Legs come on man the screen is illegal right even after review the diff is if that screen happens any time up to the two min mark in the fourth quarter in a few possession game they don’t call it cause a 5-4 advantage early in any game doesn’t decide the outcome but a 5-4 advantage on a illegal screen with under a min to go could decide an outcome
Lmao Legler relax big guy. Screens are the most inconsistently refereed play in the NBA. Yeah the call wasn’t great but the whistle was consistent all night. Indiana’s execution down the stretch was very poor and that’s on Haliburton. Only reason they cut into the lead was a Nesmith flop while setting a screen! The ref excuse is getting in the way of the game. Pacers left meat on the bone and can’t do that against a team that never quits
Nuggets got punked and it exposed that Joker can't play defense
Minnesota’s defense best I’ve seen and been going to 30+ games yearly center court row 9/11/13 since 1987-88 (Reggie Miller rookies year).
PS Anyone who objectively watched the game saw pacers get robbed by the refs throughout the game.
Also Haliburton is clearly playin hurt (hamstring & back spasms..came back way too early from hamstring injury to get all nba 45 million 65 game minimum bonus). He’s been questionable with back spasms for a reason, wears that black back brace stimulation thing for a reason and most importantly his first 32 games he was top 5 MVP candidate who AVERAGED 24, 13, 5, 2 stocks on 51/40/88! No player EVER had averages 13+ apg with that many points per game!
Since Jan 8 injury his stats and efficiency PLUMMET from those amazing stats above to 15, 9, 4 1.5 stocks on 44/29/85. He’s not close to the same player.
All that said Pacers objectively were robbed game 1. Haliburton made a shot with 0.1-0.2 on shot clock they didn’t count (or go back and change), pacers only 3 FTA first 33 mins vs Brunson 9 FTA (Knicks 16). Turner was hacked by Brunson that should of been 2 FTA and they inexplicably overturned it which left the announcers stunned! Then with 50 seconds left game tied NeSmith steals ball WITH HIS HAND to start fast break where they probably take 2 point lead with 45 seconds left, but instead INEXPLICABLY call it a KICKED BALL?!?? They then hit 3 to go up with 40 seconds when it should of been down 2 with 45 seconds left! Then the BS illegal screen on Turner with 12 seconds left with DD flopping. The UConn Iowa wasn’t even close to worse then that 1. In that game she was clearly moving and stuck her arm out (after illegal screen not called on DD a minute before that). This one Turner didn’t do any of that. Divencenzo flop was criminal and it was rewarded. Also I didn’t think it was a kick live you clearly saw it was his hand.
I said before series the whistle would be bad, but I didn’t think it’d be THAT bad. I also said who would have more FTA Brunson or Siakam Hali Turner COMBINED?!? Game 1 Brunson 14 vs 10 for Pacers 3 best players. Brunson’s whistle is one of best best I’ve ever seen with flopping up there with Trae Young, Harden, Embiid. He’s a great player, but his whistle is embarrassing many times. Then he bites on pump fake for Turner and LANDS on him but they overturn it?!? This game clearly made it look like NBA wants NY vs Boston in ECF especially with superstars Lebron Curry Giannis Durant Embiid etc already out of playoffs.
SMHH! the HECK??!! joker exposed and Luka a BUSTER recently ..SHOULD bounce back game 2...if not, the European takeover is DONE! w him and joker ousted! media gonna cry! ✊🏿💪🏿🙏🏿
Threat game was rigged from start to finish so many 4 five point swings on questionable calls all throughout the game … every time the whistle stopped Pacers went up by 8-12
Haah national media is crying 😢 😂😂😂😢😢😢😮😅😅
Knicks got bailed out by the refs. They're going to lose this series
Knicks almost beat them, they not too powerful. They could lose
the knicks almost beat who? nugs or timbs?
Lol they can’t beat either idk what bros talking about
Knicks beat the Minnesota
Nuggets they could beat too
Fully healthy Knicks could win the chip
Minnesota is like the Knicks
no, they’re better than the knocks bro
Yep hard nose basketball. Only difference is they have length 2-5. Their defense is a lil better den da Knicks based off that fact.
They both really hustle.
Fully loaded yes with Randle and Mitch healthy
@@easyyeyeKnicks could beat them in 7
You’re choosing to ignore the illegal screen called on donte at 2:30 in the fourth or ihart screen in the 1st. All media is conveniently no brining that up
You mean Nikola jokic was not an impact in game against the timberwolves! i though he is the season MVP!!!