Please stop surrendering Yu-Gi-Oh duels.

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  • @RogueStand
    @RogueStand Месяц назад +1511

    No. If your comboing for 15 minutes while I have nothing to stop you, I’m absolutely surrendering lol

    • @Maximusls2400
      @Maximusls2400 Месяц назад +224

      Facts, dont feed into their egos dont give them satisfaction dont feed into the meta spam

    • @nairbgolden2008
      @nairbgolden2008 Месяц назад +147

      Yup. Blame the state of the game.

    • @Shadowbot074
      @Shadowbot074 Месяц назад +17

      I combo far enough to play thru one thing just in case. One time I made a 4 negate appo and used it all 4 times on a battle fader

    • @jasonfondeur376
      @jasonfondeur376 Месяц назад +15

      100%

    • @MyreLink
      @MyreLink Месяц назад +12

      This!

  • @Tbax9
    @Tbax9 Месяц назад +103

    It is said that the whole point of Yugioh is to not let your opponent play.
    Surrendering is the ultimate example of this phenomenon. You can't prevent, counter, or negate it

    • @Practicalinvestments
      @Practicalinvestments Месяц назад +10

      If they made a card that stopped you from surrendering those sweaty nerds would 1000000% use that every game to make you watch them bm

    • @lorenztor1990
      @lorenztor1990 Месяц назад +3

      @@Practicalinvestments Then also play Prohibition and declare GG EZ.

    • @witherblaze
      @witherblaze Месяц назад

      Isn't surrendering illegal in the ocg?

    • @rebirthxgaming
      @rebirthxgaming 17 дней назад

      I can counter it

    • @namenotfound8747
      @namenotfound8747 2 часа назад

      @@Tbax9 Sounds like someone should do a skit about not allowing your opponent to surrender.

  • @somebodyoncetoldme8317
    @somebodyoncetoldme8317 Месяц назад +551

    Stop taking 15 minutes on turn one and I’ll stop surrendering. Full stop

    • @blackbody3151
      @blackbody3151 Месяц назад +22

      “no joke 15 minute turns” get good.

    • @francewallmortaries4914
      @francewallmortaries4914 Месяц назад +6

      Exactly

    • @RaidZeroh
      @RaidZeroh Месяц назад +19

      so what, do you just surrender every game where you go second then? lol

    • @somebodyoncetoldme8317
      @somebodyoncetoldme8317 Месяц назад +51

      @@RaidZeroh considering I’m casual and only play online and at best will play at locals every couple of months? Yes. The long ass turns are why I’m not more competitive in the first place. You tried to have a gotcha moment and it failed miserably

    • @mapeus
      @mapeus Месяц назад +27

      ​@@RaidZerohA lot of people do when they see their opponent playing an actual deck without opening hand traps lol

  • @sanic007
    @sanic007 Месяц назад +231

    I love how this whole comment section is mostly in disagreement. Sorry Paul, you're not winning this one.

    • @Nopulu
      @Nopulu Месяц назад +26

      Paul should have known this wasn't the smartest thing to say imo.

    • @patricknguyen4848
      @patricknguyen4848 Месяц назад +16

      Yeah this guy say to not surrender but should I keep playing opponent has calamity and 6+ negate monsters. But this guy is saying we should not surrender and waste time.

    • @ShinoHanamisa901
      @ShinoHanamisa901 Месяц назад +17

      @@patricknguyen4848 I play to have fun and not to see several hours of combo.....

    • @Dagordus
      @Dagordus Месяц назад +10

      And dont forget such long combos in literly every Single Step even, when its your turn, they do such long combos even before you draw 1. Card and even after that, they combo again, before you even play 1 card

    • @TheRevengeSociety
      @TheRevengeSociety Месяц назад +1

      I get his point but I'm guessing he is pretty competent at the game where as casual players are wanting to actually feel like they are playing the game.

  • @anavaeru
    @anavaeru Месяц назад +324

    I flip my ipad upside down so it feels like I’m winning 🥹🥺

    • @Matter_Of_Fact
      @Matter_Of_Fact Месяц назад +30

      This is the funniest thing I have read all week lol

    • @MichaelisBLee
      @MichaelisBLee Месяц назад +21

      This is the most adorable comment ever.

    • @NewtBannner
      @NewtBannner Месяц назад +13

      Best comment I’ve read today 😂

    • @Aromapablo
      @Aromapablo Месяц назад +6

      😂

    • @cinderefell1399
      @cinderefell1399 Месяц назад +13

      You did win. That comment was the greatest filp effect I've ever read.

  • @Joolenplus
    @Joolenplus Месяц назад +296

    Maybe yugioh shouldn't be a game where people feel like they want to surrender on turn 1

    • @fuzzythoughts8020
      @fuzzythoughts8020 Месяц назад +11

      True but tbh, in order to do that they'd need to DRAMATICALLY change the game.
      It's have to become an entirely different game to be truly balanced.

    • @patricknguyen4848
      @patricknguyen4848 Месяц назад +6

      ​​​​@@fuzzythoughts8020maybe yugioh should learn from vanguard cardfight first and second turn phase where opponent cannot use Ed and spells/traps until turn 3. But during the first and second turn both can set up monsters hand traps more etc. also no battle phase that part too

    • @roscoeorginal
      @roscoeorginal Месяц назад +3

      @@patricknguyen4848 but isn’t that kinda the point of what he’s trying to say? You’d have to change entire parts of the game that have been in the game for 25 years. I am not saying you are wrong but for a change in Yu Gi Oh would be an interesting change after 2 decades.

    • @lssjvegeta7103
      @lssjvegeta7103 Месяц назад

      Or they could introduce negation sickness. Eg: you can only negate twice per turn

    • @malikjackson9337
      @malikjackson9337 Месяц назад +3

      @fuzzythoughts8020 Then change the game. There's no sense leaving it a hellish mess. I don't even think the changes would even be that dramatic. Tone down flood gates but also make combo decks less generic. Decks should have general support, but it shouldn't be a race to spam the most generic boss monsters. Ban Maxx C in MD. Not even that intrusive.

  • @GordieKat
    @GordieKat Месяц назад +426

    The fact that people want to surrender so much in the first place is fundamental proof that Yu-Gi-Oh! is a broken game.

    • @TheLastSane1
      @TheLastSane1 Месяц назад +54

      One step away from Solitaire

    • @UTgohan
      @UTgohan Месяц назад +32

      Facts which is why I play retro formats

    • @W_Sir_Morpheus
      @W_Sir_Morpheus Месяц назад +10

      @@UTgohan same

    • @andresgenshinclips4229
      @andresgenshinclips4229 Месяц назад +15

      Retro formats >>>

    • @Practicalinvestments
      @Practicalinvestments Месяц назад +14

      @@TheLastSane1it already is bruh, the only reason people don’t is because those sweaty ass nerds want someone to watch them play with themselves for 20min 💀

  • @frostbyte8835
    @frostbyte8835 Месяц назад +194

    Dont agree. Priority should be yo stop 15 minute combos. I play the game for fun. Not there to stay all night.

  • @JustLikeTheSimulations
    @JustLikeTheSimulations Месяц назад +171

    I honestly try not to so the other duelist can win normally. However, if it’s clear I’m about to lose, but the opponent purposefully drags out the last few combos, for 10 minutes, I leave😂

    • @MartinGeorgi91
      @MartinGeorgi91 Месяц назад +20

      I feel this. If my board is open and I have like 4k LP, and I see my opponent start "flexing" all the combos they wanna pull off I just scoop.. Like.. my guy, you have a combined 5k+ atk on field, just end, don't get all "fancy" with it

    • @professorhaystacks6606
      @professorhaystacks6606 Месяц назад +2

      If you have a hand I can kinda see why people still combo. I've seen people do that when I have no hand, too, though. I think that might be reflex. Or flex. One of the 'lex' things.

    • @QBcubed
      @QBcubed Месяц назад

      @@MartinGeorgi91 Admittedly, I've done this to get the dailies done. Sometimes I only have time for the one duel.

  • @michaelh.1484
    @michaelh.1484 Месяц назад +282

    It's ok to surrender. Pulling out the ethernet cord however, now that's crying.

    • @bobbobbyson1
      @bobbobbyson1 Месяц назад +30

      stop leaking my strats wtf

    • @turtletoyl
      @turtletoyl Месяц назад +3

      this one kinda has a point though

    • @NovaSaber
      @NovaSaber Месяц назад +7

      I generally don't understand why there are so many people in Master Duel who disconnect to surrender.
      Do they genuinely not know that it still counts as them losing, or not know where the surrender option is?

    • @professorhaystacks6606
      @professorhaystacks6606 Месяц назад +3

      @@NovaSaber Does a DC count as a regular loss or a surrender? A regular loss lets you get stuff for dailies and such, so if it counts as a regular loss that might be why.

    • @damianpearson1712
      @damianpearson1712 Месяц назад +2

      That's one thing I'll never understand: Winning or Losing due to "Connection Failure." 😑
      Is it actually a bad connection, or did my Opponent transcend the usual Rage Quit? More importantly, is a Win a fluke under Connection Failure since I don't know what caused it? 🤨🤔

  • @IcemanGaming337
    @IcemanGaming337 Месяц назад +99

    Nah I work 11 hours a day I'm not gonna waste my few free hours at home waiting for someone to stop comboing

  • @xsizzlexster6495
    @xsizzlexster6495 Месяц назад +140

    I'm not wasting my time sitting through a longass combo for a "chance" to counter it. Better off just surrendering and finding a new match. I only get 1-2 hours a day to play.

  • @lhdakzymd9036
    @lhdakzymd9036 Месяц назад +138

    I scooped this video at the 2 second mark.

  • @reversal3628
    @reversal3628 Месяц назад +103

    This is one of the main problems that drove me away from Yugioh. People scoop? No, it's what makes people scoop ON TURN ONE, no engine, no one card combo, no handtraps, no board breaker. How many card games that you can already tell that you already lose with first hand. You feel like I'd rather GG next game, than trying to fight and see the outcome that predictable. Blame the state of the game not people.

    • @Chewbyy
      @Chewbyy Месяц назад +2

      So based 👏

    • @MrMac1219
      @MrMac1219 Месяц назад +5

      Right, I play DBS masters and Digimon and neither of those really have this "stop one thing and it's over" mentality there is a lot more back and forth and the game pace is a lot better even when doing some powerful stuff

    • @DragonBallsolosyourverse
      @DragonBallsolosyourverse Месяц назад

      Its two factored
      Alot of the people who like yuigioh these days like it for the long special summoming combo's
      But said gameplay loop is enabled by komani though intentional card design and power creep.

    • @ducky36F
      @ducky36F Месяц назад

      At least you lead with the fact you don’t play the game, one honest commenter 😂

    • @PurpleFiiilth
      @PurpleFiiilth 12 дней назад +1

      This is exactly the reason I quit. I realized that once I draw my hand and the first player starts laying down cards, you pretty much know who's going to win already.
      Why not just skip dueling entirely? You can have both players show their starting hands to each other and then follow the flow chart to see who's gonna win.
      Did player 1 draw combo? Yes? Did player 2 draw the appropriate hand trap(s)? No? Did player 2 draw the appropriate board breaker? No? GG player1 wins, next duel.

  • @tenaciouspoetry
    @tenaciouspoetry Месяц назад +37

    Recovering from a game is more likely in old school formats. The way the cards are now it's just determined within 1 to 2 turns.

    • @prestonmccoy7097
      @prestonmccoy7097 Месяц назад +2

      Yeah. There’s just NO way around it. Especially in Master Duel. By the end of turn 2, if you even get to that, you usually know who’s lost and who’s won.

    • @ducky36F
      @ducky36F Месяц назад +1

      How would you know if you’ve never tried?

    • @ahmadazem4167
      @ahmadazem4167 Месяц назад

      ​@prestonmccoy7097 thats wrong otherwise every player would have a 50% win rate.
      Top players in master duel have a 70-80% win rate and thats in a best of one

  • @AnimeXFever54
    @AnimeXFever54 Месяц назад +17

    Well Paul, If someone hyper combo for 20 minutes why can't I give up

  • @Gojukid
    @Gojukid Месяц назад +187

    I quit if there's someone doing a 15 min long combo after I already handtrapped them earlier in the turn

  • @jasonfondeur376
    @jasonfondeur376 Месяц назад +26

    Whats the point? If i look at my hand and see the board they are boutta make then i will 100% quit knowing I have no way of beating them

  • @CreaturesOfTheMarsh
    @CreaturesOfTheMarsh Месяц назад +25

    I would only agree if they gave an actual Casual Mode that didn’t just play like Ranked but without the rewards. There’s NOWHERE to try fun or casual decks out instead of slamming into the meta at every turn.

    • @starjadiancloneinvestigato1772
      @starjadiancloneinvestigato1772 Месяц назад +11

      not only, the rewards suck if you lose. There's no incentive to stick out a loss because at best you get a legacy pack which you can't even reduce into dust. konami literally useless giving pixels

    • @W_Sir_Morpheus
      @W_Sir_Morpheus Месяц назад

      Play retro ~

  • @memo.i.garcia
    @memo.i.garcia Месяц назад +137

    I didn't give up because you "played a card", I gave up because you threw maxx-c AFTER you set a full board

    • @W_Sir_Morpheus
      @W_Sir_Morpheus Месяц назад +15

      Lmfao yeah they're toxic for that 🤣

    • @jamalmonroe1170
      @jamalmonroe1170 Месяц назад +5

      EXACTLY

    • @benoliver5593
      @benoliver5593 Месяц назад +8

      There really isn't nothing to say besides that handtraps was a terrible idea on every level

    • @thesavingmenslivesnetwork
      @thesavingmenslivesnetwork Месяц назад +5

      @@benoliver5593 I mean, the original Kuriboh (and I guess "Charm of Shabti) are okay I guess... 🤔?

    • @Murasane
      @Murasane Месяц назад +5

      ​@@benoliver5593some of them are ok but things like maxx c were made without a single thought behind it. Unfortunately cause of the state of the game we need things like ash blossom and effect veiler to stop our opponents from comboing for 15 min

  • @dragonjames4500
    @dragonjames4500 Месяц назад +37

    yeah i'm not waiting 10 minutes just for turn 1 to finally end

  • @CyborgWolf
    @CyborgWolf Месяц назад +35

    I'm not going to wait for floodgates and 20 mins combo.

    • @Maximusls2400
      @Maximusls2400 Месяц назад

      Exactly

    • @renaldyhaen
      @renaldyhaen Месяц назад +2

      Floodgate is auto-surrender if you know you don't have the outs for that problem. But I have some good anti floodgate cards in my deck, this still okay to wait. Most STUN is just set, normal, and pass. Five STUN turns is maybe still faster than a single turn of combo deck.

  • @eduardotorres7111
    @eduardotorres7111 Месяц назад +43

    Always surrender. The other player usually rehearsed a whole 12 minute combo and it shatters their ego when you wont let them finish

    • @ducky36F
      @ducky36F Месяц назад

      No it doesn’t they were playing the 12 minute combo hoping you’d surrender because they don’t actually know how to use their interactions afterward.

  • @ASB-dr8je
    @ASB-dr8je Месяц назад +65

    Why not? This is a game. We play games because it's fun for us. If it isn't, we have the right to stop playing it.
    Now, no one has the obligation to build decks that are fun for me but that also means I don't have an obligation to sit trough a 20 minute combo or go against a board state featuring 200 omni-negates.
    Mega super-duper combo-negate deck? Great! GG, next....

  • @robf.6273
    @robf.6273 Месяц назад +54

    I’m literally surrendering in Master Dual as I watch this. I’m not waiting for a 20 card combo on turn 1 fam lol

  • @gambitgambles
    @gambitgambles Месяц назад +21

    I mean if ONE card combos wouldn't exist you could have a point.

    • @bl00by_
      @bl00by_ Месяц назад +1

      Because decks like mannadium or Infernoble are so much better

    • @gambitgambles
      @gambitgambles Месяц назад +5

      @@bl00by_ as an infernoble player, summoning Isolde when me and my opponent are equally matched feels like bringing a gun to a fist fight.

  • @TheKajero
    @TheKajero Месяц назад +38

    I'm not waiting a 10+ minute turn for a full board that locks me out of breathing and steals my mortgage

  • @NocturnalAce
    @NocturnalAce Месяц назад +29

    Players surrender because they value their time playing the game INSTEAD OF their opponent playing the game for them with a 15+ minute combo that they can do nothing about.
    If it's fair for that (ridiculous unstoppable time-consuming combos) to be the norm of how the current game is played, then it's ALSO fair for players to surrender the moment they encounter such BS.
    The game allows those combos to exist, but it also allows us to avoid having to deal with it, even if it results as a loss. Fair is fair, right? lol 🤣🤣

  • @myeternalsin
    @myeternalsin Месяц назад +181

    I refuse to sit there and let someone BM me while they jack off their deck with some stupid combo when I have nothing in hand and they negated everything with maxx c is active.

    • @Maximusls2400
      @Maximusls2400 Месяц назад +6

      Facts, Pin this comment @Aps

    • @bluelightning118
      @bluelightning118 Месяц назад +2

      Max c isn’t a problem 😂 it’s handtraps and a powerful negation

    • @Honest_Mids_Masher
      @Honest_Mids_Masher Месяц назад +22

      ​@@bluelightning118If you think Maxx C ain't a problem then you yourself are a problem

    • @handlebar4520
      @handlebar4520 Месяц назад +6

      @@bluelightning118 Maxx "C" is a handtrap ong dawg 💀💀

    • @Darkmagecurt
      @Darkmagecurt Месяц назад +2

      ​@@bluelightning118you know max c is the best handtrap right lol. Banned in tcg

  • @Nick-N
    @Nick-N Месяц назад +13

    Not watching solitaire combos. I value my time far more than some miraculous chance of winning.

  • @bobbobbyson1
    @bobbobbyson1 Месяц назад +217

    POV: its highschool. you're 5'2'' 100lbs and the 6'4'' 300lb varsity football player bullying you is telling you ''dont surrender bro just fight me''

    • @bobbobbyson1
      @bobbobbyson1 Месяц назад +29

      this is an illustration of any returning yugiboomer vs snake eyes meta decks

    • @charxmoon9495
      @charxmoon9495 Месяц назад +20

      This example was a little too detailed sir. Do you need help

    • @bobbobbyson1
      @bobbobbyson1 Месяц назад +20

      @@charxmoon9495 yes.

    • @blamberton7893
      @blamberton7893 Месяц назад +5

      If you woulda fought him, he finally woulda respected you. No one's expecting you to win, they just expect you to stand up for yourself

    • @starjadiancloneinvestigato1772
      @starjadiancloneinvestigato1772 Месяц назад +21

      @@blamberton7893 boomer take, you may as well say "you're going home with bruises, a broken nose, fractured ribs and a concussion but at least you have your pride!!"

  • @TheTrueRaexes
    @TheTrueRaexes Месяц назад +24

    No, I drew no handtraps and you opened full combo against me. I'm not sitting through that when my hand looks terrible for going 2nd.

  • @gerharddamm5933
    @gerharddamm5933 Месяц назад +159

    Hell no, the best part of MD is being able to concede when you know you’re gonna lose. It’s a fun casual game, after all. Would you win 5-10% of those matches if you didn’t quit? Sure, but who cares?

    • @bl00by_
      @bl00by_ Месяц назад +16

      This, it literally only matters if you grind out DC cup like Ryan yu. But even there he probably quits early to save time

    • @Petsinwinter2
      @Petsinwinter2 Месяц назад +5

      I just want people to surrender after my combo is done in MD. I'd like to collect my Dailies.

    • @mapeus
      @mapeus Месяц назад +6

      Yeah, if you're climbing you're not playing casually, so you shouldn't be conceding because conceding only ever sinks your win rate but otherwise it's very unfun to watch a ridiculous combo/BM so conceding to, so to say, skip the wait is worth it imo

    • @andrewcovell9692
      @andrewcovell9692 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@Petsinwinter2play numeron otk it's faster it saves both of us the time and garuntees you'll win 90% of the time the worst you can get is someone who run the clock down turn 1 and if they do that you should be reporting them for slow play so that way Konami knows thus is an issue they need to deal with

    • @cinderefell1399
      @cinderefell1399 Месяц назад +4

      Sad thing is that if you play the casual mode, people are still playing like they do in rank.

  • @HakumeiTenshi
    @HakumeiTenshi Месяц назад +49

    Imagine you're in a MMA fight and your opponent has you in an arm bar and he gets mad because you tapped.

    • @Honest_Mids_Masher
      @Honest_Mids_Masher Месяц назад +7

      Start trying to kiss him bro it works every time 💯💯💯

    • @Boomster2150
      @Boomster2150 17 дней назад

      Imagine that same fight i start the fight by punching you and the good for a 15 pc combo and when you think you bout to do something cause its your turn i stop you with and arm bar ...STILL WANT TO STAY IN THIS FIGHT??😂😂😂😂

  • @hiurro
    @hiurro Месяц назад +78

    Surrendering is not a player mindset problem in this game, it's a direct result of the way the game has evolved. Why is someone supposed to believe they can come back from behind when their first turn is the last turn?

    • @benoliver5593
      @benoliver5593 Месяц назад +3

      This is the clear reason right here.

    • @benoliver5593
      @benoliver5593 Месяц назад +1

      This is the clear reason right here.

    • @Chewbyy
      @Chewbyy Месяц назад +2

      Based 👏

    • @Dagordus
      @Dagordus Месяц назад +4

      And how you want to beat an Board, which Stops you literly from doing anything, so if you See that opponent starts to do specific combos just surr and dont waste your time watching him do in every Single little Phase 15min+ combos

    • @DarknessRealm
      @DarknessRealm Месяц назад +2

      Exactly but it depends what deck your using overall.

  • @basedangel7230
    @basedangel7230 Месяц назад +85

    Dude no one has time for anyone making unnecessary combos when their life points are wide open and you could just attack and end the game to save us both the time. If the community wasnt so toxic this wouldnt be an issue

    • @ganymedehedgehog371
      @ganymedehedgehog371 Месяц назад +15

      I would literally step away, do dishes or make food and it was still the guys turn.

    • @vonakakkola
      @vonakakkola Месяц назад +8

      it's not the community, the game is toxic
      if don't let your opponent to play anything is a viable option the problem is within the game, it's normal that players choose what would increase their win-rate

    • @PeircingBattleDamage
      @PeircingBattleDamage Месяц назад +4

      Bruh even the Ai in the Yu-Gi-Oh DS video games do this. It's that bad lmao

    • @andrewshewan4551
      @andrewshewan4551 Месяц назад +2

      Because everyone is anonymous I don’t know if you’re laddering and your deck has the out in your hand. I’m going to full combo to make sure that I can win.

    • @acasualgameryt6978
      @acasualgameryt6978 Месяц назад

      ​@@vonakakkola the game is toxic, sure. But saying that the community has no part in it is wrong, MBT is correct, yugioh players way too often surrender to completely winnable games.

  • @HereComesRockire
    @HereComesRockire Месяц назад +20

    Back in the times of classic YGO, I always tried to let my opponet get the satisfaction of the win, without surrendering, but now, in the age of eternal combos, it is really hard to just sit there watching the opponent go off.

    • @Practicalinvestments
      @Practicalinvestments Месяц назад +6

      If some rogue deck beats me (I play dark magicians) then I usually sit there and let them win properly, snake eyes tho? Goodbye lol

  • @bobbobbyson1
    @bobbobbyson1 Месяц назад +82

    i understand how you feel paul, but you're actually indirectly addressing a problem this game has that keeps alot of players on the sidelines rather than even play. the time it takes per duel. not all decks are 15min turn hogs, this is true, but when i have a pretty out dated deck because i dont know how to play the game enough to pick up a modern combo deck, and my opponent is playing so many cards before my main phase i forget whos turn it is, it really turns me off from wanting to play.

    • @Maximusls2400
      @Maximusls2400 Месяц назад +6

      Naww paul doesnt get it..

    • @bl00by_
      @bl00by_ Месяц назад +15

      That isn't even the issue. The thing is that most decks WILL kill you on turn 2 if you bricked, got handtraped a few times or they broke your board.
      So why would you sit there if you know that accesscode will kill you this turn anyway?

    • @bobbobbyson1
      @bobbobbyson1 Месяц назад +5

      @@bl00by_ i dont even play enough to know accesscode exists. but sounds like some really unenjoyable gameplay to force yourself to have to sit through knowing the outcome.

    • @Zetact_
      @Zetact_ Месяц назад +8

      Also Master Duel's "polish" is actually a point against it, especially for the type of game that Yu-Gi-Oh is. It's not something you really think about but something you absolutely feel - having the little animations add up steadily across playtime that stretch things out to an absurd degree. Not just the obviously way too long chain link animation but even small things like taking a fraction of a second to raise up and slam a card on the field or taking 1-2 seconds to show a summon animation will steadily add up. And of course there are things like excavating one at a time instead of just revealing the excavated cards all at the same time (like other simulators, including ones made by Konami, have done in the past) but just on a base level the absurdly long chain link animation ALONE should never have made it to the final product.
      When one of the primary complaints people have about the game is that it takes too long it really should be a priority to streamline as much as possible when making a sim.

    • @bl00by_
      @bl00by_ Месяц назад +4

      @@bobbobbyson1 It's one of many cards in the game which allows you to kill your opponent in ine turn.
      I personally don't mind it, but it basically tells you that as soon as you see a line which could lead to it that the game is over, unless you have a way to stop it.

  • @brendanworley1659
    @brendanworley1659 Месяц назад +8

    Brother i concede when i have to wait 30 minutes for a combo to end, i cant waste that much time

  • @TastySnackies
    @TastySnackies Месяц назад +8

    Time is more valuable than wins. What’s a match win worth for your ego, if you have to waste 10-20 minutes to see whether or not you’re going to win?

  • @rezthemediaruler3768
    @rezthemediaruler3768 Месяц назад +67

    I am ok with it, but I hate it when people start to flex on you, when they are clearly the winner and just go on and on and on…

    • @jorg3023
      @jorg3023 Месяц назад +8

      Sometimes I get it, you need to hit those 3 link summons and 3 synchro summons to get the 80 gems

    • @Quanze
      @Quanze Месяц назад +4

      I always feel bad going through extra steps to setup an extra negate or two, but I've been burned too many times trying to play nice and be quick only for them to have a Battle Fader or something =/

    • @emissaryofcharybdis105
      @emissaryofcharybdis105 Месяц назад +5

      Hey, you'd be surprised how that can actually be a good thing. I remember one time where someone decided to start flexing with more summons when they could have easily ended it by just attacking. They screwed themselves, because the one card I had left was a Void Trap Hole, so when they went to summon something bigger and badder, they lost their monster to the Void Trap Hole, and I was able to recover and win the match after that.

    • @Citizen_Nappa23
      @Citizen_Nappa23 Месяц назад +2

      Yes I can't stand them, just attack and win

    • @andrewshewan4551
      @andrewshewan4551 Месяц назад

      @@Quanzethis

  • @libraryowlaz7986
    @libraryowlaz7986 Месяц назад +358

    As long as the one-turn-win is the meta, no, I will not stop surrendering. I like PLAYING the game, Paul, not watching someone else jack off their deck for ten minutes before one-shotting me.

    • @jesusoyervides5197
      @jesusoyervides5197 Месяц назад +22

      This is the greatest comment ever!!

    • @Luxord5294
      @Luxord5294 Месяц назад +41

      That's typically my response too, if I lose because I got outmaneuvered then GG take the win. But if I have no options to defend and you're still throwing combos out when you already have the win, then screw you I'm out.

    • @Unbound_Selrahc
      @Unbound_Selrahc Месяц назад +18

      I couldn’t agree more on this statement, if the meta is otk, then no, I won’t stop surrendering when they just stroke their own ego for 15 minutes by doing bullshit combos.

    • @beanguru6838
      @beanguru6838 Месяц назад +9

      Facts, man. Players like that are so childish. They don't know what a gentlemen's game is🤝

    • @UTgohan
      @UTgohan Месяц назад +2

      Pretty much every modern yugioh deck is an FTK/OTK lol

  • @BlinkSh0t
    @BlinkSh0t Месяц назад +31

    When I have 3K LP and you, the opponent, have a 3K atk monster... and instead of attacking me and ending the game, they decide to CONTINUE COMBOING... oh.. boi.
    *clicks gear.*
    *clicks shiny red button*
    *reports for slow play*

    • @cinderefell1399
      @cinderefell1399 Месяц назад +5

      They also exhausted your hand and the one card you get at the beginning of your turn. They combo but don't hit you, instead they end turn and then combo again.

    • @motxmod
      @motxmod Месяц назад +1

      ​​@@cinderefell1399 Agreed. Earlier today during the Fusion × Link event, I was running Ninja against Despia. We got to the point where I had 300LP but he had an active Chain Energy. My only card on the field was a face-up Jioh in defense. He could play 4 more cards, had Dragostapelia and The Theatre on the field. Based on this game state, I would have won via deck out in 30+ turns but he had Triphyoverutum in the GY. After he passed his first turn without reviving Triphy after Drago injected Jioh, I knew he was willing to just run that clock to the very end before reviving Triphy to win. Quit right there, nothing I drew could help except Kagero but only once my hand maxed out. I'd be a sitting duck until then.

    • @BlinkSh0t
      @BlinkSh0t Месяц назад

      Yeea... we don't have that time of day to give them.

    • @Daddyfunbuns
      @Daddyfunbuns Месяц назад +2

      Even worse is that Master Duel basically encourages this because of how dailies work. Sometimes people have clear lethal and then keep comboing because if they don't they don't get their dailies cleared and risk running into another game where they're on the receiving end.

    • @motxmod
      @motxmod Месяц назад +1

      @@Daddyfunbuns Alternatively, you also don't get any progress for the dailies if you quit as a way to discourage quitting. In fact, you get no points towards end of match rewards or XP if you quit. Granted, I also don't think the remaining rewards bar carries over between games.
      I will say that during the Labrynth meta, I often dueled people that even after completely nuking my field and hand on my turn would continue to wombo their combo long after they had both 8K on board and fulfilled any requirements for the dailies they had.

  • @lavalord96
    @lavalord96 Месяц назад +9

    No. Not until the games are *naturally* longer than -2 turns.

    • @Practicalinvestments
      @Practicalinvestments Месяц назад +3

      I read this as *Negative* 2 turns (-2 turns) lmao and I can’t agree more game ends at the coin flip before the first turn

    • @lavalord96
      @lavalord96 Месяц назад

      @@Practicalinvestments yepper do lmao-

  • @ThatsSoGiorgio
    @ThatsSoGiorgio Месяц назад +8

    My last locals, I had a mirror Branded Match. My opponent combo’d for 15 minutes and by the time game 3 was on 1 minute left during his first first, he then sent the turn over to me and his Masquerade did 600 damage for my Imperm to negate it for the rest of the turn. I had Super Poly in my hand but in 8 seconds left in the round..there was no way I could deal damage to him without his Quem coming back into play. I should have scooped 8 minutes into his combo and picked to go first round 2. It’s about time management

  • @dinolover
    @dinolover Месяц назад +6

    He says this as if i want to sit through a 10 min play just for them to OTK me. I dont care, if i want to leave a duel i will. I value my time, not your wins.

  • @fluffyninja3467
    @fluffyninja3467 Месяц назад +5

    I really, really don't feel like sitting through someone playing through their whole ass extra deck while I sit there turn 1 with a huge brick. It's a symptom of a much larger issue being ignored

  • @samreddig8819
    @samreddig8819 Месяц назад +3

    I'll stop surrendering when i stop seeing boards with more negates than i have cards.

  • @charadreemurr445
    @charadreemurr445 Месяц назад +11

    i think it has to do with how bad the state of the game is, if people combo off forever and i can’t stop them, it’s frustrating

  • @sparrowhawk3425
    @sparrowhawk3425 Месяц назад +36

    My opponent keep comboing while he has 30.000 atk be like (your field is empty)

  • @imBIank
    @imBIank Месяц назад +8

    If i know imma sit there and watch someone spend more than 3 minutes on their turn, im surrendering, idc.
    That shit is BORING

  • @apertureb2247
    @apertureb2247 Месяц назад +22

    Relying on your opponent to be horrible and mess up while also waiting 10 plus minutes to even play the game is not healthy and its no wonder people scoop.
    Id argue the opposite is more toxic. Thinking the other player is forced to watch your vomit combo instead of game 2 let me side against you is super toxic.

    • @TheNewblade1
      @TheNewblade1 Месяц назад +1

      This was close to my take, from an analytical standpoint winning *only* because my opponent misplayed would be counted as a loss in my book. I won because the moon happen to be in the right position in the sky not cause any skill of my own

  • @Maximusls2400
    @Maximusls2400 Месяц назад +73

    Last thing : Its my pc, its my internet and its my time and sanity

  • @sephnickel9516
    @sephnickel9516 Месяц назад +29

    Sorry bruv but i dont want to see my oppenent play solitair for what feels like eternity and then otk me, so i'll just let them have the w for free instead. It saves us both time. I do agree that you shouldn't give up after the first negate your opponent hands you.

    • @michaelkeha
      @michaelkeha Месяц назад +1

      Even that depends if your deck just crashed and burned from that hand trap and they have full combo then scooping is fine cause they gonna kill you anyway

  • @ronnysneider6978
    @ronnysneider6978 Месяц назад +4

    after my opponent uses ash knowing that they are going to start a 15 minute combo. OF COURSE I'M GOING TO GIVE UP.

  • @trey5446
    @trey5446 Месяц назад +3

    I adopted the “play it out” and legit climbed from P3 to Masters in the span of 3 days. It really is eye opening when you realize that unless they’re on a “circular” type card, a hand full of hand traps is gonna be low on gas

  • @Maximusls2400
    @Maximusls2400 Месяц назад +46

    This game used to be about back and forth but i rarity get that anymore…. That was the height of dueling

    • @bl00by_
      @bl00by_ Месяц назад +4

      I still get that while playing lab lol

    • @acesw6124
      @acesw6124 Месяц назад +6

      The time where Battle Fader and Scrap-Iron Scarecrow were guaranted to give you 2-4 turns to collect ressources and form a strategy and look at your toolbox of extra deck

    • @drigon100
      @drigon100 Месяц назад +1

      @@bl00by_ This is exactly why I still play Lab

    • @MrAlexjmercer
      @MrAlexjmercer Месяц назад +2

      @@drigon100Me too. Stop using degenerate trap in Lab and it’s actually nice

    • @TheLastSane1
      @TheLastSane1 Месяц назад +6

      This game is one step away from just being Solitaire.

  • @bl00by_
    @bl00by_ Месяц назад +10

    Why would I wait for the BP to surrender? You can already see if you win or lose in the MP1.
    Like if you bricked and passed and your opponent normals a SE Ash you can quit right there.

    • @spicymemes7458
      @spicymemes7458 Месяц назад

      Can confirm. I played TGs in Limit 1, but because I summoned Ash or activated the field spell, they quit.

  • @Halomasterchief16
    @Halomasterchief16 Месяц назад +15

    Paul, I say this because I like you and hope you will eventually get this. Instead of terminally online, you are terminally playing yugioh. For the average person who comes home from a hard day's work and has two hours to play before going to bed to wake up and do it all again, skipping your opponent comboing when you have nothing in hand is the right play. The game is supposed to be fun. You are not rewarded for losing in basically any way, and not penalized in any meaningful way for quitting. Skip and go next. Our time is not worth the 10% you might win because your opponent flubs the combo and surrenders

  • @metalmario1231
    @metalmario1231 Месяц назад +8

    Yeah thats a bad take....im not gonna sit there while my opponent needlessly combos for half a day with no way to interact...especially in a video game where its all reset for you every game so theres no real downside to starting over

  • @Andy4995
    @Andy4995 Месяц назад +124

    I'm astonished that someone has even remotely a take like this. Why would ANYONE stay in the match and waste their time watching someone playing with themselves for 10-15min. when they either interrupted them and still go full combo or can't break their board? Just move on to the next game. That's why tactical conceding is even a thing in paper Yugioh, so you don't waste precious time. What poisonous stuff did you inhale to go and say something like that?

    • @itsasecrettoeveryone7158
      @itsasecrettoeveryone7158 Месяц назад +22

      Same reason people demand you not skip the grind in games. They can't fathom not everyone has a lot of time to play. They usually also label their halfwit take as a psa as if it makes it more valid.

    • @DrapionMaxxx
      @DrapionMaxxx Месяц назад +7

      There are times where I've waited 10 plus minutes for my opponent to screw up their combo and cost them games. It is a real strate. Sometimes they're just better than you, other times they just.. click buttons or play cards just because they can.

    • @sanctuarydragon9637
      @sanctuarydragon9637 Месяц назад +12

      I'm pretty sure he is saying that people shouldn't give up over minor inconveniences rather than sitting through a 0% chance of winning

    • @Darkmagecurt
      @Darkmagecurt Месяц назад +10

      He's mad he had a good handle and the player didn't stay for it 😂. Welcome to modern yugioh paul!

    • @Practicalinvestments
      @Practicalinvestments Месяц назад +1

      @@itsasecrettoeveryone7158right lmfao I was like “this guy seriously has the audacity to call this a PSA? As if he’s the yugioh president and what he says is law? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @keelanperumal1980
    @keelanperumal1980 Месяц назад +9

    it's a mixed bag though. Cause absolutely no one wants to sit there for more than 15 minutes just watching chain after chain on there own turn by there opponent for one. Majority of matches are just your opponent playing against themselves, while you're just there waiting to actually get to your turn. Most of the meta don't even let you play period
    So why waste your time getting flexed by effects till the next banlist gets announced. When you can just move to the next match and actually hope to get to properly play.
    I do agree that surrendering after one negate is a pretty bland move to do.

  • @thedevilofparadis6107
    @thedevilofparadis6107 Месяц назад +4

    If I see my opponent with those combo decks that take forever to play then I'm surrendering.

  • @paradoxtheruler7596
    @paradoxtheruler7596 Месяц назад +36

    Paul this a dumb take, 99% of the time you lose on your opponents turn

  • @Magnus_Strand84
    @Magnus_Strand84 Месяц назад +125

    Stop making events/gem requirements pvp dependant..problem solved

    • @Maximusls2400
      @Maximusls2400 Месяц назад +15

      Remember Konami is greedy asf lol

    • @Danlight1911
      @Danlight1911 Месяц назад +35

      The one thing that pisses me off the most about Master Duel is you HAVE to play ranked to get rewards.

    • @Maximusls2400
      @Maximusls2400 Месяц назад +10

      @@Danlight1911 solo doesnt give u enough

    • @MyreLink
      @MyreLink Месяц назад +3

      Facts!!!

    • @GhostlyGhost333
      @GhostlyGhost333 Месяц назад +23

      I stopped playing master duel. Gems were too pvp dependent and all the stronger archetypes are too high rarity to properly build. Besides they’re just gonna ban it to oblivion. So why bother?

  • @BlackwingVayu77
    @BlackwingVayu77 Месяц назад +105

    Nah this gotta be the worst take ever 🤦🏽‍♂️ if open with no negates and a bad hand and my opponents summons snake eye ash im leaving instantly. Rather play the game then watch some one link spam for 20 minutes

    • @Maximusls2400
      @Maximusls2400 Месяц назад +11

      FACTTTTTTTTS

    • @Neptune8
      @Neptune8 Месяц назад +11

      It’s even worse at low tiers when you can tell the opponent doesn’t know the lines and they take twice as long to link climb

    • @pn2294
      @pn2294 Месяц назад +3

      Your opponent might make a mistake that you can capitalize on.

    • @chrisneftic
      @chrisneftic Месяц назад

      It takes them so long because of ppl like you guys surrendering not allowing them to learn and improve so it doesn’t take that long. Ppl who surrender are part of the problem!

    • @chrisneftic
      @chrisneftic Месяц назад +4

      Ppl who surrender are a big part of the problem if your opponent is taking to long trying to combo it’s likely they’re trying to learn their combos and by surrendering you basically make that cycle continue because they will never get the opportunity to efficiently learn their combo lines and will never get faster at those said combos to pass turn quicker in the future!

  • @Gpz0
    @Gpz0 Месяц назад +5

    Why surrender mid duel when you can surrender if you lose the coin flip.

    • @fabianbeteta5795
      @fabianbeteta5795 Месяц назад

      Tell me about it. I hate the coin toss decider because for the last 3 seasons and current, I have been losing the coin toss more than winning the coin toss and always have been going second, and it's irksome especially if I don't have any hand traps not even maxx C. That I would end up with a hand going first, but I am going second instead. To me, I feel as though the coin toss is rigged.

  • @Wslasher
    @Wslasher Месяц назад +4

    You know a game has a problem if people quit without even trying.

  • @Orchested
    @Orchested Месяц назад +3

    Surrunder is the new meta to stay sane against a combo deck

  • @BrandonH58
    @BrandonH58 Месяц назад +3

    If I get negated for the 3rd time in a row; it's obvious that person wanted to play solitaire. I'm scooping.

  • @asdfghj13579fly
    @asdfghj13579fly Месяц назад +2

    In master duel I typically surrender because the other player is taking too long and I don’t have the patience. Sometimes I’m winning and if I can doze off, wake up, and it’s still their turn I’m done.

  • @cyberdragon9826
    @cyberdragon9826 Месяц назад +4

    Ion got all day to wait for some neckbear to finish, plus they get piss off if I surrender quick lmao

    • @Practicalinvestments
      @Practicalinvestments Месяц назад

      Legit that’s why Paul made this video XD he’s pissed off no one wants to watch his gay combo loo

  • @cinderefell1399
    @cinderefell1399 Месяц назад +56

    Sorry dude, but if they play a deck that isn't a duel and actually taking me outside to curb stomp me, then I'm surrendering once I see their first card.

    • @xdantex9724
      @xdantex9724 Месяц назад +2

      The decks that pull up with 6 negates only to be silver and gold rankers is a shitty af system

  • @derekfreiley7980
    @derekfreiley7980 Месяц назад +3

    I have an 11 month old so my time is limited. When I match on Master Duel and see a Synchro spam deck or a deck that’s going to take 10 mins to set up, I don’t have the time or patience for that. I’m here to grind my daily’s so I can get my gems and open packs

  • @friendmaker9210
    @friendmaker9210 Месяц назад +7

    This is 100% wrong lol, people don't have infinite time so if the chance of winning is small then why waste time on cope and hope when you could just start the next duel?

  • @BenovskyGM
    @BenovskyGM Месяц назад +3

    When i surrender is when my board is clearly not coming back and draw a dead card, so to avoid 10 minutes of the other dude comboing i just end it there.

  • @Oof316
    @Oof316 Месяц назад +9

    The thumbnail stared directly into my soul lol, I guess I’m not surrendering anymore!

  • @Nopulu
    @Nopulu Месяц назад +5

    How about.... No? I'm not going to sit there and watch my opponent play 10 minutes minimum to build an unbreakable board that says negate to everything I do just because I didn't draw a handtrap. And if by some miracle, I DO break through their board and manage to make a game for myself, guess what the first thing my opponent will do? Bonus points if you guessed "Surrender". There's a REASON people surrender so much in Yugioh, it's cuz Yugioh is an unfair broken game. Like for real, it's 2024, PUT A DAMN TIME LIMIT ON TURNS ALREADY.
    This is why I only play Retro Formats and Lorcana these days

  • @Lexon2535
    @Lexon2535 Месяц назад +2

    Let's not forget the possibility that your opponent misplays, especially in Master Duel where you can misclick.

  • @tensaigamerm2736
    @tensaigamerm2736 Месяц назад +2

    Let’s be honest. They should reword the title of this video to “Please let me finish my heavyhanded multi-effect combo.”, or something along those lines.

  • @charxmoon9495
    @charxmoon9495 Месяц назад +6

    No, playing against opponents that think this is solitaire. Also, the people that won't even let you play on your turn. Facing these copy and paste decks with no originality are why I just leave those duels. If those savages want to win that badly, let them reach the higher ranks, let them fester in the filth. Let them enjoy their mirror matches of solitaire.

    • @Practicalinvestments
      @Practicalinvestments Месяц назад +1

      Legit why I stay in lower ranks on purpose, first time I got to platinum I said ‘nope this isn’t fun back to silver’ but some of these sweaty kids lower their rank ON PURPOSE just so they can get easy wins by BM’ing people, whenever I see a snake eyes player trying to purposefully lose I play the game out LONG AS HELL then still surrender last second so they gain a rank 🤣

  • @DC-eb6oo
    @DC-eb6oo Месяц назад +4

    Im with the general consensus here, If I cant play and your pointlessly draggin shit out yeah im not spending 20+ min for you to stroke your ego.

  • @Umbreona
    @Umbreona Месяц назад +2

    At the highest levels you should concede the moment you know your opponent has the advantage. There is no point in prolonging the pain when you know you are going to lose.

  • @ImMural
    @ImMural Месяц назад +2

    If you can't win. Scoop time rules are a thing

  • @kevinhowery6060
    @kevinhowery6060 Месяц назад +6

    Master duel rewards bm with extra gems while punishing conceding with none. But id rather get non to your bm 50 than give you 100+

  • @fuzzythoughts8020
    @fuzzythoughts8020 Месяц назад +3

    I surrender probably like 80+% of my losses simply to save time. I know when I'm beat, I'm not going to sit and watch myself lose for five minutes when I could be in another game where I have a real chance.

  • @JustAnothaDentist
    @JustAnothaDentist Месяц назад +3

    Surrender a win or surrender your time. We know which is more valuable man

  • @billybobjoebrown33
    @billybobjoebrown33 Месяц назад +4

    please don't stop surrendering. I take so many easy W's from ppl who surrender at the first sign of something going wrong.

  • @rell660
    @rell660 Месяц назад +3

    I play MD and I sometimes surrender just to prove a point.
    You want to win so bad. There take it, please move up a tier while you're at it

    • @Practicalinvestments
      @Practicalinvestments Месяц назад

      They lose on purpose to lower their rank that’s why you see them in silver, you seen one of those kashtira players that let you win?

  • @MoeEpsilon
    @MoeEpsilon Месяц назад +14

    Don't BM and waste time or I'm going to absolutely sit there and wait for you to combo for 15 minutes and then surrender so you get no gems.

    • @BmanTheChamp
      @BmanTheChamp Месяц назад +4

      They'll still get gems from completing the daily challenges if you let them combo off.

    • @renaldyhaen
      @renaldyhaen Месяц назад +3

      Funfact: If you wait until your opponent beat you and the game end properly. You still don't get any gems from this. So, both Surrender and losing properly are the same, but surrender is faster.

  • @Daco823
    @Daco823 Месяц назад +4

    This is an L take. I'm not sitting for all eternity just for you to end on a 10 negates, 5 disruptions, and 2 floodgates board

  • @cristifernandes9375
    @cristifernandes9375 Месяц назад +5

    I am playing masochist in master duel so i don't stand by this please concede before i even show my normal summon symphonic warrior

  • @banop7794
    @banop7794 Месяц назад +6

    Nah Paul if you start comboing off for 20 mins I aint sitting there waiting
    Edit is I cant spell comboing lol

  • @IRLBRYAN
    @IRLBRYAN Месяц назад +4

    If you are taking more then 5 minutes in a turn I’m surrendering I’ll find someone who wants to actually play Yugioh how it was intended

  • @aldjiinn4224
    @aldjiinn4224 Месяц назад +3

    Respectfully, hard disagree. If I have good reason to believe the game isn’t gonna go my way, or if they’re playing a deck that is grating, I’m surrendering.

  • @izsubs316
    @izsubs316 Месяц назад +51

    Oh so you like going up against decks that take 50 years to end their turn?

    • @Maximusls2400
      @Maximusls2400 Месяц назад +5

      Yup EXACTLY!

    • @Maximusls2400
      @Maximusls2400 Месяц назад +8

      Thats one of the reasons why people who go 2nd have a stronger chance of surrendering

    • @acesw6124
      @acesw6124 Месяц назад +3

      and let you draw a card but continue to play on your turn..........

    • @witherblaze
      @witherblaze Месяц назад +1

      He's the man that uses those decks

  • @lenninho5113
    @lenninho5113 Месяц назад +51

    To sum up this video so people don’t waste their time, sit around for a while and waste your time while your opponent goes full combo off of one card after hand-trapping your rogue tier deck

    • @chandgrit
      @chandgrit Месяц назад +7

      Now that everyone knows the outcome they can surrender this video and go on to the next.

    • @htothearris
      @htothearris Месяц назад +2

      yea dont play a dogshit deck, how about that?
      you expect to win, while actively playing a dogshit deck? wheres the logic

  • @Slaughter-l-
    @Slaughter-l- Месяц назад +3

    The one thing that annoys me the most is the fact 9 out of 10 players use the same meta decks.

  • @xfighters3913
    @xfighters3913 18 дней назад +2

    I think a big reason for instant surrenders is just the amount of "Feels bad" situations in a game like Yugioh. I mean there are so many salt inducing and shitty situations that it's easy to see why so many people are fast to give up. There are so many games where it's just not fun. It's why I quit ages ago.

  • @bluelightning118
    @bluelightning118 Месяц назад +8

    some ppl know when they’re beaten.but some decks cannot recover from one or two handtraps or negations.theres plenty of boards that are 100% unbeatable

    • @xdantex9724
      @xdantex9724 Месяц назад

      Oh you mean the ones that consist of playing yugioh with yourself for 15 minutes, nah thanks

    • @bluelightning118
      @bluelightning118 Месяц назад

      @@xdantex9724 could be worse