Metroid Prime: Phazon suit cutscene differences (GC vs PAL/Wii)
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EDIT: This change was actually made in the PAL version of GC Metroid Prime. Anyway, it's quite hard to find a video of that cutscene played on GC, and the NTSC (no-PAL) GC version of the game is more spread out.
EDIT 2: It was bothering me not being sure when exactly the change was made so I had to check: this change seems to have been made exactly in the JPN and PAL GC versions of the game, no earlier (e.g., 0-01 NTSC game). See: www.metroid2002...
More links about Metroid Prime version differences (Remastered not included [yet!]):
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www.metroid2002...
The Wii version of Metroid Prime (Trilogy and New Play Control!) changed the Phazon suit cutscene, and as nobody has ever made a comparison between the original and the new one, I decided to do it myself.
I prefer the original scene, where it looks like the suit is electrifying samus as she fights for control back. Adds more power to the scene.
I agree
I disagree in this instance. The pose she does is cringe.
Not only this but Samus literally got crushed by the Omega Pirate before absorbs the Phazon. It looks like she's in literal pain from being crushed/ electrified and nearly corrupted by the Phazon. She shouldn't look like: "Oh I'm fine what happened?" It should literally look like "AAAARRGHHH WTF JUST HAPPENED!!!!"
@@Bakframan Exactly this. I was so fucking disappointed the remaster DIDNT use the original scene
@@IamCanadian3333 a mix of the two for the remaster would have been best. The electrifying part without the camera pose.
This is the weirdest way to get a new suit in any Metroid game
Dunno, the way she usually gets it out of thin air bothers me more. Where is it all stored within her body?
@@meyearsago-lc8bq Samus's morph ball seems to convert her in to energy. If the Chozo has the tech to do that then maybe all these upgrades are the physical item stored in energy form until they interface with the suit
@@JakesGuitarThing are you me? I've thought this exact thing and it would explain a lot. you could easily even explain her losing upgrades between games by that energy eventually dissipating or getting used up
GC version really hammers home how corrupting Phazon is. Shows that even Samus in her Chozo-made power suit isn’t immune to it, but through what seems like sheer force of will, she overcomes it.
Much better storytelling imo than the new cutscene.
It was cool until she did the cringey pose...
yeah idk why that was changed its alittle disappointing
@@Glaceon_Guy”cringey” ok lol
@@Glaceon_Guy Nah
The electrification Samus had in the original GC cutscene puts a lot more emphasis on how unnatural this item pickup was, how volatile and dangerous it can be to tinker with. A Phazon pickup definitely deserved that kind of drama for this point in, if not the game, then the trilogy.
Grew up with the first one...gives the player quite the epic boost...especially how you can imagine the phazon and power coursing through the suit...she feels the energy spike
I mean it's more understandable that Samus gets confused after somehow acquiring phazon suit by getting crushed, rather than doing the pose immediately after
Phazon literally can have electric properties why wouldn’t it be painful
@@urbiznesnunuv6938 He is questioning the pose, not her twitching from the power coursing through her.
Idk why a hybrid of the two won't be so bad. Do the twitch thing, get confused, then snap out of confusion
@@stevennguyen4993 this
This game has tons of little differences between versions and I think someone making a video of all the little changes like this would be neat.
Huh, It would be quite tedious. I don't think I know every single chance between versions. Moreover, some differences are just technical (scan dash being patched and whatnot) and there are a ton of versions to take into account.
Not an easy task.
I noticed quite a few. Warning sounds are different, there's a female AI that tells you thins, there's fission metroids in the phazon mines after the Omega Pirate for some reason, in one of the Magmoor cavern passages that used to have none flamethrower nozzle on the side and two above, it's now two on the side and one continues spewing flames.
1:07 that 7 energy though
swimr93 I used 4 random RUclips videos to make this one, if I find that video again, I'll show it to you so you can see the whole fight.
swimr93 Here it is: ruclips.net/video/v94PZeKrTug/видео.html
Ah yes, looks awful familiar... :)
Me: *expecting the GC cutscenes on the trilogy but it’s different* “my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined”
That’s pretty much prime 1 on Wii in a nutshell. Prime 2 Wii was GREAT tho, I consider it the definitive version of prime 2
GC version is still my favorite. Always makes me shout "Iiiiii haaaaave THE POOOOWEEEEEEER!"
The Wii version is higher resolution, but the Gamecube version is way more badass. I prefer the GC version.
I think I like the gc version.
IDK why they changed the gamecube version! It made it more epic and badass!!
I prefer the GC version. I mean it's pure phazon and a giant pirate collapsed on top of her she's in a great deal of pain until the new suits affects kick in nullifying the pain. I love the post as well. might not have been entirely necessary but I do adore it. I thought I was one of the fee people who remembered the true cutscenes
Brandon Sanders Totally! I like the GC version. It was a painful process from radiation but luckily her suit merged and adapted to Phazon giving her advantage.
Okay but
Shouldn't she have done the pain thing while she was being *crushed by phazon and pirate instead of randomly being standing up?*
Hmm I think I actually like the Wii version better. That pose she does in the GC version where she points her gun out is kinda corny imo. Like girl who are you aiming at we just saw the room was empty
0:10 When you convert your Diamond Armor into Netherite Armor
I don't know why, I really liked the reference.
Didn't expect something like that to end up here lmao.
@@ElB0ludo the original GameCube version is better because it made it look like she couldn't control the power
@@nahajinozetano9565 but who poses epically after pushing through something like that ? No one
I had the pal version it plays out exactly like the WII version
Hello from 2018. I played through the GC and Wii version of these sometime last year and was surprised/upset when I found the Wii version removed the awesome pose. Those in the know will recall First 4 Figures did a Phazon Suit Samus figure depicting that same pose. Figured I'd check to see if anyone had made a video comparison and lo and behold someone had! With rumors of Metroid Prime Trilogy hitting Switch (and being announced tonight) I'm definitely bummed that the awesome pose likely won't be in the Switch version, if it is indeed a thing.
Well HELLO THERE
@@BlueSlurpy lol that comment didn't age well
i assume you were disappointed Remastered used the Wii version? cause i was :(
Thanks for sharing. Was curious if anyone else had noticed.
The wii one is more realistic. But, I still like the GC version a bit better.
Edit: I still believe that the pose of the gamecube version is totally unnessecary.
Unessessary I agree but it was so cool back in the day. Looking at it now I’m like that was out of place but hey you get the best of the both worlds
Yea a lot of Samus' power up poses were a little silly in Prime 1 😆
She is literally suffering, poisoned by the phazon which her suit forced to integrate. It's not a power pose, it's an intense suffering pose.
@@RetroDeath Hence making it more realistic than the Wii version, she was in the process of her suit adapting so it makes sense, plus it's more badass, like a Jojo pose and we never get to see that.
It's not more realistic, radiation just fell over your body and your suit hasn't started nullifying the pain.
I think I like the updated version better. The original looks painful, and maybe that's the point, but I think any pain would be negated by acquiring the Phazon Suit, and it looks painful to watch, too. The last pose she does is also striking (it's the same pose used in marketing material, albeit in a Phazon Suit), but it's a bit too dramatic.
Ooh, that's right! I didn't notice that: goo.gl/images/nYjymc
I think it makes sense for Samus to be having a "seizure" after acquiring the unnatural Phazon suit. Its a whole new level of power coursing through her body that miraculously isn't killing her. The bare minimum she should feel is abit of shaking and pain as her body and suit absorb the new upgrade.
Her pose at the end may be corny, but keep this in mind: this was her first 3D game and the first time we've seen Samus since the SNES days. The entirety of Metroid Prime is focused on making Samus feel powerful and look awesome. Making her shrug off the pain she experienced mere moments ago was simply a way to make her more badass.
Stupid af, the original is way better as it makes it seem more weird and important for getting it. Weird poses are better too instead of some bland generic ass pose on the updated version. GC version for life.
The Gamecube version has more style. 😅 One of my Favorit Metroid games.
Game: You got the Phazon Suit! You can now survive phazon!
Red Phazon: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
GameCube is the best
Gipsy Danger Totally! I like the GC version. It was a painful process from radiation but luckily her suit merged and adapted to Phazon giving her advantage.
Also, People Commenting This Video Says That The GameCube Version Is The Best. But It's Not Just Any GameCube Release, It's The North American GameCube Version, So You Could Say "I Prefer The US GameCube Version" or "I Prefer The Japanese & European GameCube & Wii Versions"
That pose Samus does looks awfully familiar to the pose Sonic does in Sonic during one of his idle animation! XD
Mike Anthony the one from Sonic 3 right? Where he points his finger as if to say "hey idiot, this way"
Smithlinkiller Yeah that one! Seriously though, was it really necessary for Samus to make that pose?
I like the Wii version more. It makes sense that she wouldn't randomly strike a pose.
Sheldon Williams Yeah; also the GC version looks more 'painful', I mean, it seems like if Samus were suffering initially. Also, the Wii version has better resolution lol
ElB0ludo I think it would be very painful. Phazon is supposed to burn. Also getting crushed by a massive space pirate has got to hurt.
MasterWort117 Well, Sasmus' suit is suposed to absorb the Phazon and become invulnerable to its effects, so it could not have hurt (that) much. But you're right. Anyway, if I were a video game develloper, I would rather put a cutscene in which the main character doesn't suffer than a cutscene in which she suffers. Also, it makes sense that Samus stands up in the Wii version, while in the GC version doesn't.
Sheldon Williams shes in shock lol
+ElB0ludo actually the original version makes way more sense and gives you a greater feeling of empowerment because the phazon after all is a very unnatural corrupting power source that the chozo race themselves call the great poison of course she would be in pain because her suit is being corrupted to it's corejust seeing her shake violently from acquiring this suit tells you a few things yes this power you just got is unnatural but its also a great power, so now the thing that the enemy was seeking through out the game will now be their undoing that is excellent storytelling without one single word being uttered, that's great game development.the wii version she looks stupid because she just gets up like "meh I guess that was a thing".
If I were to rate them from best to worst it would go:
1. Wii Fusion
2. GC
3. Wii
4. GC Fusion
This Scene Was Also Altered In The Japanese GameCube Versions Of The Game Too.
The shaking of the start of the GameCube version is better to me. But I like if she didn’t pose at the end.
This confirms they based the remaster on the wii version. Very cool.
Well, Nintendo usually seems to be really confident in the changes they make between versions. In this case, being that Nintendo (seemingly) requested RetroStudios to make this change and others for some of the GC versions of Metroid Prime that came after the first release (that is, at least the PAL GC version, and maybe others), and they kept those changes for the Wii versions, it would have been strange if they did not keep them also for the Remaster.
But yes, everything in the remaster seems to be based on the Wii version: cutscene changes, lore changes, QoL changes, glitch and exploit fixes... They seem to like those changes better than the original GC version (despite a vast amount of players feeling otherwise).
Additionally, the remaster also fixed some glitches that were present in the Wii version (namely Infinite Speed, maybe more; I'm not keeping up with all the changes tbh).
@ElB0ludo it might be based on the PAL version because it had more of the base code from that game but simply brings in most changes from trilogy for example the door doesn't stay locked after defeating the phazon elite meaning you could leave the room and not aquire the artifact of Warrior which was a bad thing in the originals but was fixed in trilogy I also i hear the ice beam freezing affects on the arm cannon are from the GC version missing in trilogy same with the water ripples when you shoot in the water
Yeah, the original was where Samus looked cool.
Looks like she was "Ew gross! Get it off! HIYAA!"
Later versions have her: "Oh look, a new suit. This is fine."
I'm sad that I don't have my super sexy awesome pose, but the Wii version has a sort of serenity to it. I like it. :)
So I've been reading around and people say that the GC version is better because Samus is in pain initially, but...
Wouldn't she be convulsing in pain while being crushed by the massive phazon pirate with the phazon seeping into her suit?
@@GarryTheGluestick Regardless of pain or not, the two poses are MUCH more epic than the generic standing we got in the Wii version.
@@GarryTheGluestick I mean, considering everytime you step on Phazon you take dmg AND Samus gasps in reaction, it isn't too difficult to gather she would be in pain given the fact she was crushed by a giant pirate almost literally made of the stuff
Eh. I like the GC version. It was a painful process from radiation but luckily her suit merged and adapted to Phazon giving her advantage.
This game almost ended right there, with Samus fully corrupted by the Phazon. If it wasnt for the fact that it was Phazon in its Purest FOrm, and her sheer force of Will, probably would have taken her mind
Nah, the PAL version looks better, like she is reborn in a new, badass armor.
I don’t know what they were thinking when this PHA son suit suit change was implemented. GC is still was better
The way Samus obtains this suit parallels with Spider-Man logic with the symbiotes and shit. Then for some reason the suit, the Titan, and Metroid Prime herself fuse with the goddamn Phazon suit to will Dark Samus into existence. LOL!
The Gamecube version make clear the Phazon Suit was a accident and it should not happen
GC had the iconic pose, this new one even for remaster looks sad
Yeah, what was even that scene with Samus in the GC version?! LMAO
“I’m gonna shake it off like I’m cool or something.”
Meanwhile Metroid Prime 3: *Samus vomits her guts out from Phazon corruption*
Why they changed the scene? In the GC is absolutely awesome!!
I love the GC one because it looks amazing while the Wii version is just boring.
Looks like she's suffering in the first cutscene.
I think that is intended.
@@ElB0ludo Yeah, and this first part should've been kept in the newer version imo (but not the final pose of course).
I notice how the PAL version of Prime 1 changed many things.
@@ikagura There were tons of changes made to the game in the PAL version of Prime 1, including in the scans (logbook) and lore of the game.
I am not quite sure why they decided to introduce those changes, but some people say Nintendo forced Retro to do it. There are a few pages on the Internet discussing all the changes.
lmao, why is that almost everything was better back then...
The original is so much better imo the way it looks like Samus is writhing in pain because of the corruption is cool.
Ostras pues sí que hay diferencia!
adrii40craft Estaría bien que jugases al juego, es MUY beno :P
Esta es la única diferencia que he visto entre las dos versiones que no tenga que ver con la jugabilidad.
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I noticed the change in the Switch version. I just now learned they used the cutscene from the Wii version. Why was it even changed to begin with?
It actually was changed in a different Gamecube version, so it technically is not "the cutscene from the Wii version". You all who got to play the 0-00 Gamecube version are lucky. Here in Europe (PAL region), the Gamecube game shipped with the new cutscene. I can't say if it was a change between NTSC and PAL, or if the NTSC 0-01 version of the game already shipped with the new cutscene, though.
Concerning the reasons behind the change, I don't know. A lot of the lore was also changed between the 0-00 and 0-01 versions of the game if I recall correctly. Maybe someoene more knowledgeable than me on Metroid Prime stuff knows a bit more. I don't know if it was a Nintendo thing requesting changes from above, or a Retro Studios decision to re-do some parts of the game.
@@ElB0ludo I knew the lore was changed but didn't realize cutscenes were as well. So in og US version, the Pirates actually made it into impact crater and got wrecked by the Metroid Prime. They are the ones who named the creature Metroid Prime, and it's weapons are a result of absorbing pirate tech. Now in the Pal and all future versions (canon) the Pirates not only didn't breach the impact crater, they never even found a single Chozo artifact. You don't learn it's called the Metroid Prime until you actually face it because the pirate lore terminal has been changed. The funny thing is, both versions of the lore introduce a problem the other version solves. In the US version, it's kinda silly that you need to collect ancient artifacts to open a door that's already been opened. In the Pal version, it's silly that the Pirates claim to be unable to find an artifact when they clearly have two in their possession. Whether or not you prefer the Metroid Prime absorbed pirate tech or Chozo tech is up to you. I slightly prefer the og US version simply because the Pirates are presented as an actual threat rather than incompetent morons, though it does imply that Chozo security is subpar because you only need two artifacts to breach the seal
@@ElB0ludo and it's clear with the Beam Trooper Pirates with their pointy head aesthetic, and the Metroid Prime's Beam Trooper style armor with pointy head aesthetic, that the og US version of the lore is what Retro Studios originally intended when developing the game. That and the Pirates possession of two artifacts in contradiction to the "canon" lore seals the deal. Apparently Nintendo demands that magic seals in their games are the end-all be-all, and lore rewrites are required when this tenant is violated
@@jeffjefferson2853 I mean, the seal thing was probably not the only reason why Nintendo requested a lore change. But yeah, you are right.
Samus is super chuuni sometimes eh?
Not only did they make an unnecessary change, its not even cropped right in the Wii version with the exception of the Fusion Suit. I was very disappointed by this in 2009, but I got over it... Wii version is still superior
Idkw they did a really bad corp to the Wii version
smfh who changed it >:(
GameCube is legendary
Ngl, I prefer Wii version and her emerging from the phazon. Plus I find the pose kinda cheesy and a little unnecessary
While the first one is admittedly cooler looking at face value, I think the trilogy version is a lot more fitting in context. Unlike all the other power ups in the game, samus doesn't MEAN to get this one. Its a more "unnatural" power up that's suddenly thrust apon her. So the more "what just happened" reaction makes more sense than the GCs more, "I'm over 9000 pew pew mother truckers" response
I don't know i prefer the original one
0:24 W R Y Y Y Y
Sorry.
Cool
Why is the wii version so plain why change this cutscene
Maybe it's a kind of censorship since the GameCube (NTSC) versions looks kinda painful for Samus.
Well, I know that makes sense since Samus is basically floating in very radioactive material, but I guess Nintendo didn't like it nonetheless.
ElB0ludo I like the GC version. It was a painful process from radiation but luckily her suit merged and adapted to Phazon giving her advantage.
Censorship, eh? Then how exactly did they get away with the Game Over screens? Prime 2 especially.
Who else remembers the Phazon suit having brown in it's color scheme?
Why the fuck would they change this
I don't see the big problem. It's a change in animation that ultimatley, you see once per playthrough, so what?
What problem? I'm not saying one is better than the other; I just found it interesting and wanted to share it :P
Well, Maybe not you in particular, but some folks seem quite butthurt over it.
does this happens also for prime 2 and 3?
I don't really know, but I guess it doesn't since there are no (so many) version differences on prime 2 and 3 as far as I know.
ElB0ludo Everything in echoes is the same..They changed tyw chozo lore..and a few scenes in the wii version to gamecube...thats it though.
In Prime 2, the jingle that plays when collecting a Key is different. Don't recall any other major changes.
Its a shame you lose it
I know right
It was probably for the best. Phazon corrupted the suit making it powerful but dangerous for Samus. She struggled in prime three with the PED suit and it had some way of support, but if it didn’t have that kind of support she could’ve died at any moment imo
GameCube
The Wii version is soooooo boring
GameCube is the best