Acheron 2.2 Penacony Story Explained! Why Ena Of Order & The Dream Master Can't Control IX Nihility
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Acheron 2.2 Penacony Story Explained! Why Ena Of Order & The Dream Master Can't Control IX Of Nihility 
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What are your thoughts will Acheron play a key role again or is that the end of her being a major part of the story? Also do you think IX has a limit to their power?
Did you like the 2.2 story as a whole? I liked the story bits of acheron and the watchmaker but was disappointed by everything else. If i were to summarize why, it would be "Too much twists/red herring, bad execution (specially the explanations) and undeveloped plots (Sunday per example)"
if i go more into details, "It was all a dream" twist is really overused, gallagher being a follower of enigmata meant basically nothing and was another "bait" same for Sparkle, they baited us that IPC was coming, Did not explain how Adventurine got out, FF didn't even help us (besides off-screen but that's a really boring way to "explain" it when we have POV switch)
Death being a pet and the "after life" being a normal place was also pretty disappointed.
And don't forget Sunday telling us the bird metaphor more times than i can count, i couldn't take him seriously despite him having some sound arguments. which again would have been better if we had more character interactions or development, instead we got the waste of time that was the talent show.
2.0 did a good introduction to the world, so the "filler" was expected, it showed the characters and the mystery of penaconny, in 2.1 we get the interesting POV switches, the development of adventurine and other reveals about penaconny, but overall there were some important mysteries that were yet to be revealed, in comparison 2.2 seems like it focuses on something else (developing sunday) and quickly closes the case for the interesting parts of 2.0-2.1.
She must've Already Left Penacony , I don't want to spoil abt an Unreliable Leak of 2.3 but i think her part is done for penacony
Pretty sure they said Acheron will be a major recurring character in the story. I expect to see her again in the 3.0 planet whichever it is
@Toonlink003 bro jade will come in 2.3 what are you whafflin😂 Sunday gone missing, order power can't protect the sweet dream any more, and I believe sparkle and annihilation gang will come and also start seizing this opportunity to kinda creates chaos on penacony. In 2.2 Acheron says before Sunday boss fight that this will mark the beginning of penacony.
@@raystoner1250 Jade the Corpus/IPC is coming in 2.3
Acheron might be the strongest emanator to exist not because Nihility as a path is stronger than others but because IX doesn't care how much power she draws from the path. Every other aeon we know gives their emanators a small amount of their power.
Yeah that is probably a big part of it IX doesnt filter that power and that power is a black hole void to begin with scary haha
Now then its time to wonder how “strong” Elio is considering Elio did even “predict” the arise of Ever-Flame Mansion and Acheron act for Penacony, ITS TOO EARLY to draw the conclusion that Acheron is the STRONGEST emanator, even factoring that she’s a SELF-EMANATOR cuz she delved the deepest on nihility,
But now lets not forget the fact that we barely know about emanators and aeons, like before we get to know Acheron, we can decide that Phantylia is the strongest (she didn’t even use her fullpower on xianzhou cuz of her shell) she fought JingYuan the emanator of hunt and if its not because of trailblazer and their crews’ (Dan Heng Mostly) power, he wouldnt be able to “defeat” her “projection”.
But then boom theres Acheron, now imagine if theres a selfish Aeon that they themsleves are their own Emanators, who knows? We don’t even know if Aeon’s level could still evolve or ascend into more powerful beings, we’re not even clear on the power level of every Aeon and i think theres too much factors to consider… even the swarm took many aeons influence just to take care of it…
Its even possible that Aeons can be at the same branch of path, like how Mythus and Fuli does..
I’m sorry, i didn’t intent to say that you cant have your own opinion but i really think this is too early to draw that kind of conclusion (take what i said with a bit of salt of course)
@@rullieaa2399 I think Elio is an Emanator of Terminus, personally. His power is all in the 'knowing possibilities and which to pick', not pure destructive ability (is my theory, anyway).
@@rullieaa2399 like you said we don't know the limits of the power of an aeon. Qlipoth itself killed other aeons so there is a power diffrence between them. We can even get an emanator stronger than an aeon of an other path but nihility itself has an infitinte potantial, almost every other path fated to fall into nihility, if Nanook destroys everything like he wanted there will be "nothing" left so he will fall into nihility itself. That's why i thought that IX and Nihility has the most potantial for the "strongest" emanator.
But she's also seems... slowly degrading... because self annihilator....
Acheron is the biggest thorn in their side she is just there and they cant do a thing about it but ask her to leave lol
They can do more if they still is follower of xiphe
But since they is not
Their power and resource is limited, they can’t manage to deal with both xiphe and acheron at same time
Even if they follow xipe , they can't do anything to acheron . She's literally an emanator that shouldn't be existing . @@vietcuongnguyenle8530
Nihility has no meaning. That's why Herta cannot figure it out. You can't put meaning to something that doesn't have meaning.
But if it represent meaningless, then it has meaning.
@@user-wj2be8vu8qnot necessarily, because it has no predetermined meaning, it can choose one for itself but it still won't have an innate meaning given to it, that drive their motives and morals.
Acheron declaring she wants to kill IX is why she's one of the most badass emanator so far
how meany men has she killed via blue-balls?
ironic coz you can't kill the End 😂
it's like saying "you wanna end the End"😂
Yea ig...but i think killing IX means you yourself become the end and replacing the current IX..but then again its honkai..anything could happen...remember that acheron said..beyond the darkness of nihility there's like the brightest light or sum..maybe theres gonna be aeon with future path or sum
@@xiangzihua Aeons can be killed, Nihility and End are no exception.
IX is literally that one kid in the classroom who people forget who’s there due to the fact that he doesn’t talk
Bro's the quiet kid in class that no one wants to mess with
And also the type who gives ZERO FUCKS
yet, he's the one who wields hte most power.
Me. Downside being all my faculties hitting me with a 'who u' and 'I have no data on u' once I asked for recommendation letters even though there were only like 10 students in the class nd everyone knew everyone, faculties nd students alike. Relating real hard to our resident strange sad goop IX rn.
The thing about Acheron is that, her existence into a Nihility Emanator, was an accident. She IS an anomaly but a pretty logical one, since her Emanancy did not involve the Aeon she's preciding in. Born from the moment she used the Sword of Origin against Finality. Two polar opposite concepts of the Universe forced to collide against each other that the result birthed a shadow of the Nihility, as the one thing that Origin and Finality had in common was their connection to the Void of Nothingness: Origin coming From it and Terminus leading To it.
No one expected IX to have an Emanator, in the same way as no one expected an Aeon like IX to exist. Which weirdly makes her the PERFECT Emanator of the Nihility, and adding to the fact that she is the only Emanator to actively seek the destruction of the Aeon they're preciding in, Nihility in it's truest sense and fashion. Given her desire to destroy IX makes it reasonable why IX allows her to tap into it's power, as it's also the Aeon that desires it's own end, the Void that seeks nothing less than to be turned to nothing, while ignoring the fact that it's already NOTHINGNESS incarnate.
Acheron's beliefs are what make her an emanator. "It's pointless, but somebody has to."
I like to think part of why Acheron is an Emanator of Nihility is because she even seriously wants to bring an end to Nihility. Everything, without exception, has to come to an end, which would include IX at some point as well. It's so contradictory to what IX generally is/isn't, but I think that is part of how Acheron can tap into it even if she never actually had any form of interaction with IX
Another way to look at it could be that Nihility passively rejects everything. People in the HSR universe seem to have just accepted "The End" as part of their lives, but Acheron seemingly rejects even this aspect of the universe at large :v
Interesting take!
But wouldn't that make her a doctor of chaos rather than a self annihilator? Cuz that former faction's ideology Is to prove IX's belief about how everything has no
Meaning to be wrong
I mean She did Say her resolve is strong More to Cut Off IX than to Serve IX
@@ankitjadhav6775 oh? I still wonder why wasn't she referred to as a doctor of chaos then
@@shakeoffx8558 wdym, Acheron wants to do stuff even if its all meaningless. I havent even finished everything but its kinda obvious that "proving theres meaning" contradicts "believing all to be meaningless".
this makes Nihility Trailblazer sound so overpowered for the future
True this said I can't see how we will attract IX glare, I mean they don't give a f about anything ^^'
@@TheRobin120 we'll probably get it the same way acheron did
@@TheRobin120 HAHAHA well said. 😂
DOT MC? Hmmm 😀
I like that among all the known Eons since the beginning, IX was just 'that cute black hole with giggly eyes,' ignored and underrated (heh) compared to others like Nanook or Lan. However, Acheron changed everything, showing the power of one Emanator (expecting Herta to do it someday) and showing the power of IX with a lot of lore about it.
What do you mean "cute black hole" IX has always have been described as powerful, it's just that people knows that they does nothing and aren't a threat.
@@cracuss31n52his design is a cute black hole
if you remember unlocking paths requires trailblazer being gazen upon by the aeon, nihility is going to be horrific
I wonder how MC will attract the gaze of IX
Depressed MC incoming
One of my favorite examples of the Nihility’s power is actually present in the Data Banks for Aeons. Every Aeon we currently have in the Data Banks has Related Entries to them, except for Nihility (and Voracity, but that’s definitely due to a current lack of info about them, pretty sure if we get the Data Entry for Leviathans, it will automatically register as a Related Entry to Voracity. This is also true to any possible Faction connected to the Voracity, if such Faction ever becomes significant enough to acknowledge and make a Data Entry about.)
However, in the Data Banks for Factions, we have several Nihility Factions with the Related Entry for Nihility. We are literally seeing the mere presence of the Nihility’s name completely overpowering the Path of Erudition, I just can’t help but wonder how the Trailblaze is ever going to unlock the Path of Nihility, because that is apparently an inevitable conclusion!!!
But the funny thing is that it’s also impossible since the way the Trailblazer acquires a new path is if the Aeon of that respective path grants them their gaze.
@@deathwingthedestroyer3632 there’s only one solution! Trailblazer must crawl towards THEIR eye themselves!!! We will touch the Aeon of- ok that sounds a bit … We will force- that sounds worse … actually, why does the Aeon of Nihility even have eyes at all? Is it merely just design choice or … the indication that the Nihility’s Gaze does indeed… exist? Like Boothill said, perhaps we just aren’t Nihilistic enough, I watched a RUclips video (CinemaTherapy, reviewing the movie “Everything Everywhere All At Once”) that perfectly described Nihilism. If everything doesn’t matter, then everything matters at the same level. We don’t do good things because there’s a cosmic rewards for it, but because it’s simply … just the good thing to do. So it would be rather … nice if Nihility’s Nihilism is revealed to be a much more worthwhile thought than we originally thought.
@@TinkRomerouh i think those eyes are white holes?
@@LAHDL … I suppose that’s a fair enough argument? I mean, what are eyes if not holes of some color?
I wonder what would have to happen to draw the gaze of IX since it never happens. But on the other hand Trailblazer could become Self-Annihilator instead.
"Miss, please leave, you're ruining the fun and we can't do anything about it, pleeeease... 🥺"
-Gopher Wood basically
I think acheron is a emanator of nihility because she understood the true concept of nihility without incorporating it, she can grasp all of nihility without falling to it
Optimistic Nihilism!
Maybe acceptance is the true way of nihilism
The aeons cannot be classified as good or bad. Yaoshi cannot be called evil just because she bestowed long life to people. Thats her path, the abundance, she loves to bestow abundant lives to her followers. Xianzhou only cannot define yaoshi’s nature, they are the ones that called to her for abundance blessings. Do you expect a literal god to inform you the terms and conditions of a blessing ? If the mind and soul are strong yaoshi’s blessings are so powerful, making them immortal.
Finality and Equilibrium gonna be eaten by Nihility
Finality can't be touched, it travels backward time, i.e. the last aeon to exist
@@yami7509 Nihility can't be touched either coz doing so is pointless and meaningless
@@yami7509 HI3 and Star Rail are different games with different stories. Please get that into your understanding
@@xiangzihua Finality is travelling backwards in time, which means they probably saw the end of the universe, and that includes the other Aeons (which includes IX). All the Aeons theoretically can be destroyed (even though their paths still linger). For IX, if they get convinced there is a point in the existence of the universe (which is what the Doctors of Chaos are trying to do), then IX will lose their meaning in Aeonhood because they will not represent their paths anymore.
Fantastic breakdown love acheron❤❤ Also hard to gauge just how powerful she is dont think we've seen her max power yet not even close
Most what she do end with 1/2 slash
dude your videos help me understand the hsr story and lore SO MUCH (because i was really confused ngl) thank you for these breakdowns 🙏
Raiden Bosenmori Mei shall reach the end of IX 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Yes, she probably will but having an end in itself to IX makes it not nihility. I mean to say that nihility or IX can't have an end because they are nothingness, they are the symbol for nihilism. And nothingness can't have an end.
But acheron will probably reach it because story.
Thank you for the explanation! I was so confused on what boothill did on the cinematic.
"Nothing cant exist, because to speak of nothing is to speak of something that exist" -some greek philosopher or sheldon cooper i dont remember
bruh ix and acheron out here hacking the game
i remember when in high school i was philoshoiphising on "nothingness" and that "the nothingness of nothing cannot exist in nothing" becuase even a "white or black void" would STILL be a "something" and not be TRULY "nothing"
thanks for the content and hard work bro makes it easier to understand
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In 2.1 Acheron said to Aventurine
"The sleeping and shapeless never glance at anyone. THEY have no face, no form, and even less of a will to speak... The Nihility envelops everyone equally"
following
"Only some who have gone under THEIR shadow can go farther, tainting themselves with more Nihility... That's
all."
Which someone explains that, indeed, there IS NO emanator of IX because of its nihilistic nature. But that, as a pathstrider of nihility, Acheron is just someone who has gone so far into this path, that others are flabbergasted at the nihilistic power she wields and mistaken her for the emanator of nihility. But, she is not an emanator of nihility. Just someone who has tainted themselves with too much nihility.
I kinda rock with this explanation a lot.
Eerrr no, she is emanator. Some people only know that she is emanator but didnt know what emanator she is until she unseath her sword. Every Aeon have their Emanator differently
THANK YOU. It makes so much sense now.
Just Bcoz She is So Deep as a Character That's The reason She is One of my Most Fav Character In Hsr Along with Welt and Elio(Soon to be) Apart from Aeons and Stelle , Next time Hsr Devs Try Release One of these Mysterious & Real Strong Lore characters imma C6 Them
Aeon and Emanator with their pathway is the same as Lord Of The Mysteries Sequence
Her background story mentions that she pulls the power of IX and becomes an emanator to save her own planet that was swallowed by a black hole.
It just that with the closer you are to IX and the more power of nihility she took, the more power she given by IX, like a sink with infinite tap water. Erasing her bit by bit starting with her memories, memories of her, her existence, and her place in the universe until nothing left like she wasn't exist in the first place.
Self-Annihilators, the faction she part of is full of people that got swallowed partially by nihility until Doctors of Chaos tried to heal them using The Sealing Wax of Aeons Curios to prove that they still exist by showing that other aeons still care about them and tether them to existence.
Ena's dream only works if the user doesn't realize an impossible thing that could happened in a dream like the existence of Misha.
Acheron's being nihility emanator and denied to have an existemce basically meant she's a walking impossibility in the Ena's dream. You can't remember something that never exist in the first place. She's more treated as a phenomena like other Self-Annihilators that almost drowns in nihility.
Not even Herta, an emanator of erudition could take away or observe something from nihility. She just saw and felt nothing from it.
The Scp foundation would be in shambles upon learning that IX can’t be contained
The universe still containing ix 🤨
I mean really they can't contain ANY of the aeons
I found it ironic how Acheron is the emenator of essentially “everything is meaningless”, but does some of the most meaningful things in the story 😄
I kinda hope the end-story will be Acheron surpassing her own nihility and ascending as an aeon of a new path, after all that would be like surpassing IX itself in a way, and it would actually mean she gained some purpose in life
I think the best part about Acheron’s Nihility is that it doesn’t abide by standard Nihilism. She works hard, she’s very strategic, she’s resourceful, and puts her best foot forward even with pointless tasks, no half measures. I think she’s just a self-annihilator because she understands that everything returns to naught. But it’s what happens after that, that can make the difference. Or maybe I’m tripping. Idk. But she’s dope regardless.
She's helpful too
My god Acheron lore is so good 👏👏
I love how acheron (Raiden B Mei 😎) actually connected to the trailblazer from the begining, since she always tied up or perhaps always has a good relation with the nameless even before meet the MC trailblazer. She met Tiernan the former trailblazer and always guide him even until his final destination. She also told that before meet tiernan she had a companion, a little nameless girl althought they just spend 30 days together but its pricious (and im curious if this little girl is Razalina? FYI razalina is Mikhail and Tiernan companion that also the Nameless/Trailblazer). If thats true, she is destined to be one of our MC's partners in the future battle
Also need to point out that after Acheron tore a rift on Ena's Dream she also used that opportunity to draw out people by instilling fear on them through what seems like Penaconny's doomsday destruction. Basically she created a nightmare that forced people to wake up from it.
I'm actually intrigued by Acheron's dialogue about IX during her talk with Aventurine, and this is why I think IX is one of, if not the strongest and everlasting Aeon.
Simply put, everyone follows the Path of Nihility to some degree. In her dialogue, she said that Nihility exists everywhere, and in a sense, it's actually true. Every person are nihilistic to some extent, it's human nature.
This is what gives so much power to Nihility. As for how Acheron became an Emanator, I think, someone who becomes nihilistic enough, end up drawing power from a path. That's why it can be assumed that every Self-Annihilators are all Emanators, because it's not a title given, it's a title earned.
As for Device IX, I don't really know what this is, it's said to be the deepest part of Nihility. Idk if this is some sort of Core, or Singularity, or even, an actual device that gathers Nihility, giving it existence, ascending into an Aeon. Maybe it's the 9th device in it's series, that's why it's called IX. It's a stretch tho lmao
Not everyone follow nihility
We all just face nihility at 1 point that is after dead
And not all self-annihilatir is emanator
Only acheron is
The rest is not
Self-annihilator only is pathstrider same like doctor of chaos
The Databank says that Device IX is some plane of existence past nothingness, to the point that most people doubt it exists.
If I were to guess, it would be like finding out what lies beyond a blackhole.
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 I wouldn't say that only Acheron is an Emanator in the Self-Annihilators, after all nothing is confirmed.
Everyone can still be nihilistic even if they're alive. It's just the same as depression, when anyone of any path becomes depressed, they lose faith in the world, and may think that nothing matters, giving power to the path of Nihility
All self annihilators are not become Emanators. Acheron is only exception from all other self annihilators because she can withstand the encouragement of Nihility.
@@zaynyeinaung2343 nihility not encourage anything
Acheron just going further into nihility than anyone else
To the point she can get enough power from ix to become emanator by herself
Basically , acheron is the only one become emanator by herself not the aeon
Acheron and nihility ideologist of 'doesn't care' also visible in the gameplay, where as Acheron doesn't care which toughness elements the enemies have, she just slash is regardless
I'm so glad I went for her E2 S1 , she deletes everything regardless of weakness 😂
Oh you think that's strong? Try E6, that's where truly element doesn't matter anymore for aspect of her kit and not just Ultimate for E2.
@@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483E6 is lore accurate acheron
I tried for E2 only got E1 😭 on her rerun it's going down
Sparkle Might have broken Free from Ena's Dream since She spoke in Riddles alot and Her giving out Triggers to Bombs saying they should use it During the "Charmony Festival's Big moment." If she was Still affected by the Dream,she's still so Mysterious.
And Sampo told Black Swan that shes Surely not gonna try and predict what a Masked Fool is thinking.
Aha does Whatever They wants They're Chaotic and I Honestly think Order would have a Hard time Locking Aha and Their Followers down.
appreciate the use of Land of Morytha ost in this vid.
With all that being said about Nihility, I wonder how the trailblazer will be granted the path when time comes... maybe he will cross their shadow accidentaly since they don't gaze at anyone? Or he will be the first one to be gazed at which results in the end of that Aeon since he will go against it's path and ultimately "saving" them, which is what the doctors of chaos are trying to do.
So Sunday is Madara with his mugen tsukuyomi
Thank you!!! ❤️
the all-consuming black hole of trix snacks and dream syrup.
Now I wonder in the future storyline how or in what way could we achieve Trailblazer to be gazed upon by IX the Aeon of Nihility
After 2.2 I’m more than convinced now that Acheron is not exactly a Self-Annihilator but instead a Doctor of Chaos.
Not only does she makes efforts to guid others through the Nihility but she also seeking for a way to slay IX.
You can read acheron Character Story regarding that
@@RazeluxeMeitzen7 Yes the game said that she is a self-annihilator but based on her sequence in 2.2 story I don’t think she belong in that faction. Also from the Factions Data bank there’s this “Some Self-Annihilators would conceive the idea of fighting back. They join the Doctors of Chaos vowing to do their best to cure others of Nihility... Moreover, some of them rely on their strong convictions to try to break the curse of Nihility at its root - by slaying the Aeon that slumbers in the abyss”. Her actions in the story screams Doctor of Chaos for me or at least not something a normal Self-Annihilator would do.
She’s actually not an incarnation of Ruan Mei she’s an incarnation of Raiden Mei from Honkai impact
Ena herself/itself is already dead/absorbed by xipe but that doesn't mean that death of an aeon their follower suddenly gone (akivili and idrila as example) so the one that is afraid of acheron are dreammaster and sunday (and rightfully so since they saw what happened during the battle against aventurine). Now dreammaster said that some of ena personality is influencing xipe, but I personally don't agree with it because otherwise she won't glance at us at all and I beleive acheron said that penacony itself is stray far from harmony and even closer to be nihility if they continue it's path which is true due to how unstable the stellaron powering penacony and also the dream of ena also makes the people keep in the dream and eventually those people instead of become order and trapped in the dream. Basically what I say is that those people life is eventually become meaningless and they will go to acheron river. So I think what Acheron did is try to prevent that after she see the situation there besides keeps the trailblazer save
When I think of Nihility, I always think that the path represents Despair and Hopelessness. I think it fits well into the Path since....well, you know....IX is a black hole....you can't escape a black hole....and Acheron lost her homeworld because of IX....
thank you so much had no idea who thast old guy was she was talkin to makes sense
His name went from ??? to "Tiernan"
Just wanted to say digging the xenoblade 2 music
The Twilight Princess soundtrack was giving me nostalgia.
I'd like to see a video explaining Firefly's role in this 2.2 quest
Literally IX has the broadest path along side with finality, so the power granted is terrible
Even before I know about the lore of IX, I was already a fan of it because of all the characters in Nihility path are mostly OP and mommies.
I'm soulglad(so glad) they explain more about Acheron's past and the extent of her power. My favourite character so far besides Gallagher.
Ignore the bad joke😂
You'd think Aha would be what terrifies Order, since it's nature is chaos, anything done in a whim, pretty much opposite to order, there's no reason behind elation, you follow your desires and, using Sparkle as example, there might not be any pattern behind their actions unlike a normal human usually has.
Acheron's true name was shown after the story quest
I hope she will appear shortly. It would be sad that it would be a one-and-done thing. She's a kinda pivotal character in the story, and she's my favourite. Hopefully, we'll get to see her. 🙂
Also, I like the philosophy behind Nihility a.k.a nothingness. It's interesting, what are the limits if there are no limits. Raiden Bosenmoi Mei can draw unlimited power from IX as much as she wants because if it's nothing and meaningless the IX doesn't care. If there is nothing, is there a boundary between nothing and something? Very interesting and thought-provoking.
Every living and non living thing will return to null, that how strong nihility, the hunt who has hunted it prey will have no meaning in life, abundance will prolong life but will die eventually. Any ldealoly will eventually be gone once everything cease to exist. That how strong nihility is
I'm just excited for the Edo era world maybe we'll see another version of Raiden mei or yae
Me too
I am waiting for the honkai impact 3rd earth to be a playable world
Ain't that the world that is almost overrun by the Anti matter legion? Hella yeach can't wait to beat some legion and minions and seems that we'll meet Lord Ravager Zephyro there, the strongest of the Lord Ravagers of Nanook
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 I thought the Galaxy Rangers already killed Zephyro?
@@davestew5135 Nope, the one that the Galaxy Rangers killed using the Swarm was Lord Ravager Zulo, Lord Ravager Celenova was the succesor to Zulo. Zephyro on the otherhand is considered to be so strong that every time he appears at a planet, it's already considered destroyed or lost. Also fun fact according to what I've found Celenova and Phantylia are the only two female ravagers.
they always talking about "the strong exploits the weak" and they don't want to be exploited by Acheron
Feels like IX or nihility is more threatening than nanook and his destruction followers
Thank you. I know HoYo are really into imagery, and metaphors, but god, sometimes it just drones on and on.
I think the "life has no meaning" principle of Nihility is why IX made Acheron it Emanator. IX probably want to die as soon as possible but because of it limitless power somewhat scare other Aeon from trying and all of it follower are just following it footstep. Acheron however is an exception, she deliberately want to kill IX so that maybe why IX allowed Acheron to freely access the infinite blackhole to help ease Acheron's journey finding a way to erase Nihility.
Theres only one thing im confused on did the family follow order or is it just the oak family i know the dreamaster follows kt
xipe aeon of harmony also hate IX, Xipe love harmony but hate nihilty... that makes sense music / silent
alrite but what happen to Dream Master that Mr Wood something2?
Ruan mei or raiden mei? Incarnation bc you said its ruan mei's
2:35 - 6:07 - 9:05 - 9:12
Irrelevant, but the way you pronounce Penecon(Eh) is so fuc*ing cute. 😭
With that said, great video. 🙂↕️
hey hey now I'm Canadian so gotta have that "eh" at the end ;)
@@TheGamerChronicles999Ofc ofc. Still, cute as hell. 😆
My hypothesis regarding Aeons is that all Aeons are are guardians of the imaginary tree protecting it from “real” damage. Zero is a unique number in which it is classified as both “real” and “imaginary”. This is the reason why IX is the ultimate guardian of the imaginary tree; to serve as the liaison between real and imaginary numbers. I hypothesize that in the past before the leviathans, aeons, and even the imaginary tree and sea of quanta itself, there existed a complex plane. And within this complex plane arose the imaginary tree and the sea of quanta; mete fabrications of this plane. However, while the imaginary tree represented the numbers considered with the imaginary (root of all negativity), and the sea of quanta represented the infinitesimal, there existed a third complex structure; the real bridge. This real “physical” bridge functions to allow us the players to exert real force and dominion over the inhabitants of the Honkaiverse essentially serving as the domain of the real numbers. The imaginary tree experiences these concerns while the sea of quanta observes the catastrophes brought by the real bridge. As the players continue their domain and expand their real accounts stealing imaginary power from the tree amplifying their units’ power while simultaneously stealing quantum power from the sea diversifying their roster, the imaginary tree and quanta sea developed “defense” mechanisms. Ever wonder why the Gacha system is present in all hoyoverse games; it is the sea of quanta’s defense mechanism against the players superimposing their possibilities preventing practicalities. On the other hand, the imaginary tree constructs Aeons; fragments of ideology to hinder the collective assimilation of all numbers. While the Aeon of destruction serves to destroy the vessels that the players create, the aeon of harmony seeks to harmonize all imaginary energy to collaborate against the player. Unbeknownst to the aeons, they are oblivious to the real bridge and how slowly their followers are being manipulated by the players slowly absorbing all the imaginary power of the tree combining it with their real power to amplify their complex control. IX is the Tree’s trump card in which the number zero functions as both a real and imaginary number. As such, IX can absorb the incoming player catastrophe and release that imaginary energy back to the tree for sustenance.
This is primarily why Acheron has and always will be one of the strongest characters the player has in their account. As the player encroaches upon the imaginary tree and sea of quanta by pulling for Acheron’s eidolons and farming for overpowered relics, they will soon clear content so easily that the players will become so bored that their progression and desire to play the game is meaningless. Thus, they will be consumed by IX with imaginary energy returning to them and the tree becoming extensions of the mere nothingness. This is a really abstract hypothesis that I have concerning Acheron, IX, the Aeons, the imaginary tree and quanta sea and how ultimately they are connected to the players’ progression through amplification of the bridge of reality in the complex plane. While Aeons are restricted to immense power within a loosely defined path, complexions, fabricators, and players within the domain of the bridge of reality are on the rise unlimited to the axis of the square root of negative numbers for power.
really cool video if i ignore the parts where you say the same thing over n over again
Need to see an emanator of Equalibreum
Elio is an Emanator of Finality
Why do you want to see the strongest emanator in the game ?
Okay i have a theory thats totally unrelated with this video but hear me out
What if when the trailblazer actually stepped into the path of nihility, its gonna cause IX downfall because as we know the trailblazer can change their path whenever they want to and they get the ability to do that because the aeons gaze upon them, for example when TB is fighting cocolia qlipoth gaze upon the TB and gave them its power.
So because IX is personafication of nihility in the most extreme way possible he will do nothing and literally nothing so that means if IX follow the same formula as the other aeons giving a little bit of their power to the trailblazer IX will gaze the trailblazer and "gaze" is count as doing something, and because IX Gaze that count as doing something when IX was supposed to not do anything it will guide the aeon of nihility into its downfall
But yeah that just a theory of mine and sorry for the bad english
except IX wont do anything
Ix will not gaze the traiblazer
The only way the traiblazer can do to get nihility path is come close ix by himself
Awww it just a little sentient Black hole how bad can he b
wouldent finality and vorism and nihillity, and possibly equilibrium all result in same thing?
Nihility's concepts is about nothingness and the universe is meaningless
Voracity is consume than nothing
Finality is the end of everything
Equilibrium brings balance to the Universe (increase world level based on your power + other things I don't know/remember).
They're similar but all have their differences except for equilibrium which is something else entirely.
Nihility is literally just nothing, the universe and everything in it means nothing to ix.
Finality on the other hand is the end. It means something.
It's the end of all things
Voracity is just yummy everything is edible
Damn, they really took down the IPCs prison just for the family turn it into another prison… 😢
So let me get this straight. Acheron is emenator of Nihility. Herta confirmed erudition. Is Jing yuan confirmed hunt emenator? And isnt dan hang considered an Aeon because hes the descendant of Permanence
Why was acheron on penacony?
It was to help galaxy rangers to remember tiernin??
She promise with tiernan is she will come to penacony to help mikhail
So that's why none of the Nihility factions are not even invited but that leaves me with the Finality, Equilibrium, Propagation, Voracity and Abundance factions that are not invited in the Charmony Festival.
idt the finality followers (the omen vanguards) or equilibrium followers (arbitrators) that we know of would be interested in attending the charmony festival. iirc the propagation and voracity paths dont have any known followers (the propagation is technically followed by the swarm but idt theyre gonna invite beetles to their party). as for abundance, i think the followers we know of rn r all kind of insane/not well/aggressive
If we're trapped in ena's dream from 2.0. Then why we still can use clock power until the fake end. I mean what's the difference between 2.0 and 2.2 if we trapped in 2.0 already?
And why sunday not creating the fake dream from 2.0, the dream that nothing bad happened in penacony? Why he have to wait till 2.2 to do that. And about robin, when was she trapped? when she got out? And it seem that she had a different dream than MC, like each one had their own unique dream in penacony.
The best illusions are those where you believe to still be in control. Pretty much, 2.0-2.2 was wish fulfillment for The Trailblazer.
i hope nihility stays a mystery and cannot be explained until the end of the game's lifetime because thats literally the point of it
I get you guys are talking about how powerful acheron is but
Nihility trailblazer when?
Hmm, i wonder how the trailblazer would get the oath of nihility! Excited for that
I think nihility will be the last path the trailblazer follows simply because IX lacks the ability to give a fuck about anything
Question: why was Acrehon not mentioned in Elio's script?
Question 2: was this also part of Elio's script?
Because probably she cant be observed by fate
L+Ratio to order 😐
"Aeons are not good"
Akivili who's literally a hero according to his fellow aeons and other factions and took on human form to fight alongside mortals: 👁️👄👁️...
Fair point but 90% of the time they cause problems and they are a literally manifestation of an extreme obsession of a path so I still stick with my stance but you do have a soild point with Akivili
@@TheGamerChronicles999 I mean this dude is literally potrayed the Gojo Satoru of hsr. Both are the strongest individuals in their respective verse who are heroes, yet don't care about anything and cause funny shit got lols. I mean atleast akivili admits it he's the 2nd worse Nameless after Aha. Unlike other aeons who stick to their paths and ideals akivili does it for fun.
@@TheGamerChronicles999 what akivili did is basically problems similar to how our TB did. It's not that big. Well it is preety big. I mean what kind of aeon literally eats their follower's food without their permission. What kind of aeon casually steal snow mobiles and ride it in some on going racing stadium. What kind aeon is force to clean up the mess they did.
@@TheGamerChronicles999 imo whatever problem akivili did is basically just your typical trouble the TB causes. Not really galactic lvl harm. Atleast akivili admits he's guilty unlike other aeons.
This video sound like nilihilty path bias but I have to say’s I agreed with u nihility is op.
If I'm in the HSR theres a chance I can be one
Black hole sun won't you come and take away the pain?
Embrace the endless darkness of the abyss my friend. The path of nihility will ease pain of existance
So did Acheron know what was going to happen in penacony before getting there?
Also I think Acheron is a really tragic character
asdania? it's asdana.
rosdana rasdana? huh.. it's razalina.
bro is experiencing brainrot.
I still don't get her red text tho
Foreshadowing
I think nihility is weird because usually nihility=nothing but in hsr nihility results in something
There's saying
"Nothing is everything and everything is nothing".
What if the universe came from nothing and in the end return to the nothingness.
@@fathurrachman9498 well we dont know for sure if the universe came from "nothing" or even if the universe will end in "nothing", the best theory about the start of the universe and the end of the universe that i know is the big bang and the heat death
I don't agree with this interpretation and absoluteness of Nihility. IX is the Aeon of Nihility, it represents Nihility as a concept. Importantly it doesn't really represent the "nothingness" part of Nihility in a physical effect. It most embodies the "meaninglessness". It's ability to shrug off the effects of other paths comes mostly from the Idea that nothing has meaning and so there is no reason to be affected. Embodying the Nihility, being an emanator of Nihility, means stepping outside of the concept of cause and effect. It loses all meaning and thus is irrelevant.
Interestingly a closely related concept to Nihility is Existentialism. An existentialist Aeon may yet be the most likely to destroy IX and Nihility, not through conflict but through usurpation.
Existentialism has at it's core the same conviction as Nihility, life is fundamentally meaningless. Yet through our actions we give life meaning. I am predicting that, should Acheron stay relevant and be featured later on this may play a role. We may yet kill nihility because that Idea fundamentally fits the trailblaze so well.
IX embodies Nihility and does nothing because they believe it is meaningless. No matter what they do it would be meaningless so it is better to do nothing. A usurper aeon might still believe that there is no meaning to things but that just like how acheron described it "It might be meaningless, yet somebody has to do the task, even if it is meaningless" She is giving the task meaning by choosing to do it. If she truly followed Nihility the way IX does, she wouldn't.
That also means that IX and Nihility is MUCH weaker than people make it out to be. It believes everything is meaningless, it will never act, at all, ever, even if it was killed. It just exists.
IX in itself may be pretty weak but i dont think Nihility is weaker than people believe it to be, simply due to the fact that extremely few people even survive being around IX/Nihility and while i like the idea of it being consumed into a new Aeon i dont know if it would be enough to actually usurp it as IX would find the whole "Find meaning in the meaningless, in its own right meaningless" essentially going in a viscous cycle at that point, Tiernan even describes Her desire to kill IX/Nihility as Nihilistic
@@ethanfitzer7039 well, for a person never know about a mortal kill an aeon is possible
Acheron trying hunting ix seem meaningless to tiernan is understanable🤣
@@ethanfitzer7039 Aeons are not ultimate representations of their paths! They represent their respective interpretations pinnacle and so they embody the corresponding path but they are not ultimate! If they were they could not die.
Ena the Order was absorbed by Xipe the Harmony because Ena's Order overlapped with the Ideal of Harmony represented by Xipe. Harmony includes Order, yet it is more than Order and so Ena disappeared where Xipe prevailed.
Sunday made an attempt at restoring Order and had the ability to do it precisely because he found that Order in his mind indeed did clash enough with Harmony to warrant Order to exist in itself. We showed him that his will alone is not enough to manifest Order as it's own separate Aeon.
A path may exist without an Aeon, yet an Aeon can not exist without a path.
This is why I believe Existentialism may usurp Nihility. The core principle behind Existentialism is "existence over essence" Meaning: Existence comes before meaning. Things exist, their existence is inherently meaningless. It doesn't clash with Nihility nearly as much and it includes a large part of Nihilistic belief.
What is meaning? Why does something have meaning? Those questions get equal answers on both paths. There is no reason, there is no meaning. Existence is in itself inherently meaningless.
What changes is the result. IX saw things are meaningless, so IX decided that there is no reason to do anything, at all, ever.
Acheron shows us Existentialism at it's most beautiful core. Even if there is no meaning, some things have to be done. Nihility according to IX would not agree with that. Yet we still do things. Existentialism comes to the conclusion that even if there is no meaning, we do things because we must, and that this in itself can be called meaningful.
IX may call that conclusion meaningless, but that is THEIR interpretation. Not a fact. Who is right is only determined at the end and that end... if there is one.
@@verySharkey IX is literally one of the strongest Aeons in HSR. How did you come to conclusion that they are weak just because they do nothing when even getting close to the Aeon can delete your entire existence no matter who you are lol. Aeon's power is also measured how broad their path is, meaning IX might be the strongest Aeon simply because Nihility envelops everyone equally in the universe and this is stated by Acheron herself. Even if you belong to a different path, you can't escape the shadow of IX. stfu
@@lesterism i'm telling you exactly what made me come to that conclusion.
IX is a supermassive Black Hole.
As far as that is concerned coming close to one of those deletes your existence regardless of if it's IX or not.
It's not uniquely different in that aspect.
Don't have to be an ass when discussing things tho.
Still wondering if the white acheron is full emenator of nihility and the trigger is her sword and If she knows a nameless wouldn't she be over 500+ years old since the nameless stop. I still wonder why Acheron is there if she represents Nihility and her aeon isn't interested on something why is she on penacony and why she stealing invitations? Is there particular reason why she there
That's on elio script. Acheron want to go to penacony for the sake of tiernan's wish. For doing that, she need an invitation to take part in penacony. Elio saw that, then he make ever-flame mansion who coincidentally in her way to become the one receiving invitation by eradicate japella brotherhood.
If she is the strongest emanator we met, why didnt she want to fight the embodiment of Harmony?
It's not she didnt want to fight. Sunday might just avoid any direct confrontation with her, waiting until she's out of Penacony before moving his plan. Plus it wasnt her role
@@shutup1037 When she talks with the dreammaster, he says that, if she Will raise her weapon, he will use the Eternal Centurion's wrath, the Embodiment of Harmony. Why didnt she want to fight against him?
@@iDxctor why would she want to fight him? i mean she has no reason to kill a bunch of people then basically fight the entirety of Harmony when harmony wasn't even the problem Order was, plus as she said in the end all that will happen is that the dreamscape will succumb to the Nihility which it basically did the entire point of Penacony was that while dreams may be nice and all at some point all dreams will end
@@iDxctor he didnt say he will use it though? It's not a weapon, it's another Harmony Emanator. And she have better things to do than just fighting. Because after she is exiled, she go to Express and forming a plan to wake everyone up
She fight dominicus only lead to many people dead
Let the fighting part for other people will decrease the damage
Since she know is the dream master and sunday not try to harm people
But if she fight then her attack will harm people
Wait… Black Swan is an Emanator?
No one is entirely sure. Welt made a generic implication of all memokeepers being emanators, but as far as I'm aware that's the only reference to memokeepers in general being emanators.
I wish they named her Rei instead of Mei. Rei can means zero or has similar meaning to nothingness in Japanese.
Why tf someone care what that means in Japanese. Her name is explained already and core to what she doing.
@@GerriFuryman the first part of her name "Raiden" means "Child of lightning" or "Lighting God" so technically you are wrong, people do care
@@GerriFuryman tell me you're dumb without telling me you're dumb. Hoyo named Raiden Shogun "Ei", which comes from the Japanese word "eien", which means eternity. But you're too dumb to understand. I mean, you were too dumb to realize that Acheron's name, "Raiden Bosenmori Mei" is entirely in Japanese. The amount of dumbness you've shown is amazing 😒
Secondly, Bosenmori is the only part that's core to what she's doing. Raiden Mei is just because she's an expy of the original Raiden Mei from Hokai Impact 3rd, but then again, so is Raiden Shogun from Genshin Impact, so it's entirely reasonable for them to name Acheron "Raiden Bosenmori Rei", esp since Rei is even more core to what she is doing as opposed to "Mei", which, by the way it's written in Japanese, means "sprout". But again, all this is probably too difficult for you to understand, since your IQ is so low and all.