I really don’t like the idea of RDJ getting that much money. Like, Disney CEO Bob Iger last year said that the union workers were demanding too much, but now one person is gonna make $200 million total for working on 2 movies?! Come on man
I mean, I have a feeling we will see Doom ending Kangs. Maybe it will be offscreen mostly with a few quick scenes because budget. But yeah, absolutely could see it happening.
i calculated deadpool makes around ~940 million world wide by the end of the weekend. with zero competition in the action genre for the rest of the summer i feel it legs out to 1.7 billion plus. half the audience that watched it in the first week will end up watching it twice minimum, imo.
To me Deadpool and Wolverine is a one watch, it just doesn't have much of a plot with hero's that can't be killed so the action isn't that exciting and never worry about the outcome.
RDJ should show up in a post-credit scene in FF with a speech to the actual FF saying something similar to what Nick Fury said. "You all are part of a larger multiverse now. You just don't know it yet."
The most poetic thing would be Doom attempting to kill Starks family - Pepper and her daughter survive but, Rhodes dies and Iron heart gets brutally beaten too.
I'm pretty sure Thor: Love and Thunder proved John's point about movie length, that movie needed another 30 minutes, but the accountants in charge, via Chapek at that time, forced it to be under 2 hours.
I think Superman has to do well with critics and fans but it also be profitable compared to its budget. Not a billion just profitable. If it isn’t good with critics and fans it has to make a ton of money.
And umm, I think alot of it has stuck. Sucks you didn't. But we really got to give what was good, credit. And phase 4 had many gems. Yes, it had meh things. Thank Chapek. Now that he's gone, Feige is back in control and they addressed the issues. Let's move on as well and look forward.
im like 95% certain rdj appears as victor von doom in fantastic 4. but im guessing he wont be tony stark. butttt victor von doom will be that universes tony stark in a way...
At 30:57 I said that too!! The top people to kill is Pepper Potts Spidey Hulk and Cap in order to prove to the audience that he is not our Tony but Pepper Potts is the top one on my list.
PG13 movie with Deadpool - exactly what you guys are saying about him being censored, but someone else will get the one F-bomb and he will be pissed about it. Either it comes late and hes mad that they got it when hes been being bleeped, or sometime in the first half, with Deadpool having already known that there would be only 1 and had been waiting foe the opportunity, and then be pissed that it was taken by someone else
If RDJ only appears in a post credit scene in F4 it’s a shame that they announced him as Doom at Comicon. Yes it got a big pop from the few people in hall H but Imagine seeing him as Doom for the first time in the theatre, the pop would have been huge at every single showing. I could be wrong but it makes me think he could possibly be in more of F4 than we think and they announced it at comicon because they knew it would leak.
No question RDJ makes a cameo in FF. It just makes sense. It also makes sense for them to film something to add into Cap 4. A post credit scene or so. Even Thunderbolts. But more than likely FF and potentially Cap.
Eh, not that impressive…Engdame made 1.2 billion in its opening weeken😂😂😂 Jokes aside, this is huge! congratulations to Ryan, Shawn, Hugh, Marvel studios, and the entire creative team behind Deadpool and Wolverine. Can't think of a more fun and dynamite experience at the theater.
1:48:26 You know what was the problem with Julian McMahon’s Doctor Doom? He felt too similar to Willem Dafoe’s Norman Osborn. Fantastic Four came out 3 years after Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man. It is obvious that Fox saw the success of Spider-Man and decided to replicate the tone and feel of that movie. That includes giving Doom the same storyline as Norman Osborn: the CEO that was fired from his own company and wants revenge against the board. I bet that’s what happened.
I rewatched the first F4 movie a couple weeks ago and I noticed they even share the exact same scene. In Spiderman/Fantastic 4, there's a scene where "the board" votes Osborn/Von Doom out of the company and the camera zooms in on said villain.
Overpowering is a Thanos thing which was good for Infinity war. But this is Doom. We're talking about Doom doesn't care about overpowering. Doom is always 10 steps ahead no matter what and when he makes an attack you know., something huge is going to go down. That's what we need. We need a very tactical and strategic Doom that is always going to be out beating the heroes and frustrating them making them feel like no matter what they do he is going to out think them
Pepple keep assuming that rdj's dr doom will be a tony stark variant. Which to be fair, he could be. But i just dont see them doing that. I mean was Brolin's cable a variant of thanos? No. Because they were totally separate characters. I hope they make him a non variant. But id be cool with it if he is a variant too.
What about in another universe doom kills that universes thanos with ease as the avengers watch on in disbelief. Doom sees the failure of the avengers to protect the world from such threats so he believes he is the only one to protect the universe. The power goes to his head and he loves it.
I don’t doubt Jeff Sneider BUT his reporting took a bit of a hit for me cause it appears that he was wrong on Stranger Things 5 both for when it would come out and the titles of the episodes. Both at the moment seem to have been wrong.
Well, if we go with proper math, then no movie has made a true Billion. Before everyone gave up and accepted the American definition, the British Billion was a Million Million or what Americans want to call a Trillion.
I like the RDJ casting but only thing is Vanessa Kirby going to be in a love triangle with two grandpas 😵💫 this why I hated the Pedro casting. Age difference is too much and now RDJ is even greater 😂😂
A Doom/Sue romance isn't significant. The Namor attraction was always where the real story was at, and they probably won't be compelled to loop Namor into their orbit off the bat.
@@richardlogan850 I'm aware, but Sue basically got heart palpations for Namor every year for decades, while Doom's connection read more like he did it because he'd win one over Richards. Granted, they made it a thing in a previous movie, so who knows. These days it's more about his connection to Valeria than anything.
DC is toast unless we see the world's best trailer which gets people hyped! WB's greed watching Marvel has been it's undoing. What we have seen so far gives me little hope that DC bar Batman will continue! & the way Gunn has handled things no wonder he's now labelled Sh*tF**k down the Street!
“They don’t need Dr. Doom in Fantastic Four” What the fuck are you talking about? Lmao, how else is he gonna get into the MCU? The day before FF starts shooting? Come on John, of course he’s in the movie. You thought we’d be introduced to him in Doomsday?
I love this podcast. But idk if i can keep sticking around. I watch every upload and the repetitive regurgitation of the same information is getting incredibly annoying. Im not talking about the mandatory disclaimers and all that...we hear john say literally the exact thing for about 4-5 episodes in a row. People will change thier history after doomsday comes out, for example. Ive heard that same thing 4× now in 4 different shows. And thats just 1 example. Theres usually about 5 things that week that john continues to repeat and repeat....and repeat. To the point where if im not looking at the screen, i think im listening to same podcast i just watched. I get that u have to answer the same questions over and over. But its just getting too much.
Sorry john have to disagree with you in in every level, when you were knocking off names playing variants..yes you have a point there, but your wrong, the actors all played varients of themselves. I wasn't at Comicon but I follow your best friends in Kristian Harloff and Coy saying RDJ isn't a varient from fiegie's mouth..... so this is just stupid and desperate....ppl that casually watch the MCU are going to be like...Isnt that Ironman? It causes confusiion? and desperate pitch to bring fans back....So who's right then? Love to see a debate with the 3 of you guys how your so gun ho knowing all the inside scoop is, They discuss RDJ is not a varient, while you say he is, and it'll be fun with the expectations.....I'm with Harloff and Coy, this is stupid bring back the legend to play antire diff character with that much money. If he's just behind a mask, then why cast RDJ? with a boatload of cash. Hell give Cillian Murphy a kick at the can alot cheaper then RDJ....it's a desperate play why Deadpool was so aswesome just attacking Disney's current lows. Im from Winnipeg Manitoba...don't kill going against you lol
Stop this bull about killing off characters. Haven't we learned about trying to bench characters through death... only trying to solve getting them back to do another storyline.
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I'll say it again: I love movies...but I don't know how john and Ann watch the SAME movie so many times in a day or a week! Madness...
I watch movies every godamn day and on Fridays I watch MCU movies, Marvelous Fridays
I watched Pirates of Caribean 3 15 times 😅
I’ve seen Deadpool 3 times already, and I’m going for a 4th time tomorrow before I see trap
I watched Black Panther 9 times and Top Gun Maverick 6 times
I watched Ford v Ferrari 5 times in 5 days 😂😂😂
John :This movie is done shooting which makes it real
David Zaslav: Hold my tax write off
That bit about the nuns watching the puppy death in jon wick had me laughing so hard I was in tears😂
I really don’t like the idea of RDJ getting that much money. Like, Disney CEO Bob Iger last year said that the union workers were demanding too much, but now one person is gonna make $200 million total for working on 2 movies?! Come on man
Doom kills all the kang varients and says whos your downey.
Ha that would be funny.
This is the funniest comment ever
I mean, I have a feeling we will see Doom ending Kangs. Maybe it will be offscreen mostly with a few quick scenes because budget. But yeah, absolutely could see it happening.
I do think they should have majors comeback for that atleast
@@Magdalena8008s Doom drops a doombot into the stadium we saw filled with kangs and has the doombot selfdestruct. Storyline solved.
Doom showing up in a post credit scene is giving my Thanos vibes, I’m hype
Finally, your show is up. My day just got better.
i calculated deadpool makes around ~940 million world wide by the end of the weekend. with zero competition in the action genre for the rest of the summer i feel it legs out to 1.7 billion plus. half the audience that watched it in the first week will end up watching it twice minimum, imo.
Shut up you absolute waste of breath😂🤡
To me Deadpool and Wolverine is a one watch, it just doesn't have much of a plot with hero's that can't be killed so the action isn't that exciting and never worry about the outcome.
Thor: Doth mother know you weareth her drapes?
Doom: *Smiling*
RDJ should show up in a post-credit scene in FF with a speech to the actual FF saying something similar to what Nick Fury said. "You all are part of a larger multiverse now. You just don't know it yet."
great show!!! Thanks both⚡⚡⚡
You nailed it John!! Great acting...."Whos playing another dude!" LOL
The most poetic thing would be Doom attempting to kill Starks family - Pepper and her daughter survive but, Rhodes dies and Iron heart gets brutally beaten too.
27:34 lol
“you gotta take control and announce before it leaks!”
Jeff a week before the announcement: RDJ is Doom!!
Coach Taylor is the 🐐 of tv dads
That guy really wrote 1/1 in the beginning of his question
Not that funny or weird. I get it. Don't you?
@@Magdalena8008s what’s there to get
1:32:00 I've never seen John get this emotional before. damn
Shout out goodyear Arizona and whoever sent that tip!!!
Love the Pepper dispatching as a plot device. But Happy as the victim tees up the eventual reveal of Tony Stark as Doom to Spider-Man/Peter Parker.
I'm pretty sure Thor: Love and Thunder proved John's point about movie length, that movie needed another 30 minutes, but the accountants in charge, via Chapek at that time, forced it to be under 2 hours.
I think it's safe to say, putting RDJ in a superhero movie puts asses in seats. They already got my money
I loved American Outlaw. Kathy Bates has one of my favorite lines in history. "What do you think momma? I think we can bury the body out back."😅
I think Superman has to do well with critics and fans but it also be profitable compared to its budget. Not a billion just profitable. If it isn’t good with critics and fans it has to make a ton of money.
The mcu since endgame has just been throwing shit at the wall and seeing if it sticks
And umm, I think alot of it has stuck. Sucks you didn't. But we really got to give what was good, credit. And phase 4 had many gems. Yes, it had meh things. Thank Chapek. Now that he's gone, Feige is back in control and they addressed the issues. Let's move on as well and look forward.
im like 95% certain rdj appears as victor von doom in fantastic 4. but im guessing he wont be tony stark. butttt victor von doom will be that universes tony stark in a way...
At 30:57 I said that too!! The top people to kill is Pepper Potts Spidey Hulk and Cap in order to prove to the audience that he is not our Tony but Pepper Potts is the top one on my list.
Sometimes the bleeps over the curses makes it funnier just saying
PG13 movie with Deadpool - exactly what you guys are saying about him being censored, but someone else will get the one F-bomb and he will be pissed about it. Either it comes late and hes mad that they got it when hes been being bleeped, or sometime in the first half, with Deadpool having already known that there would be only 1 and had been waiting foe the opportunity, and then be pissed that it was taken by someone else
If RDJ only appears in a post credit scene in F4 it’s a shame that they announced him as Doom at Comicon. Yes it got a big pop from the few people in hall H but Imagine seeing him as Doom for the first time in the theatre, the pop would have been huge at every single showing. I could be wrong but it makes me think he could possibly be in more of F4 than we think and they announced it at comicon because they knew it would leak.
No question RDJ makes a cameo in FF. It just makes sense. It also makes sense for them to film something to add into Cap 4. A post credit scene or so. Even Thunderbolts. But more than likely FF and potentially Cap.
Eh, not that impressive…Engdame made 1.2 billion in its opening weeken😂😂😂 Jokes aside, this is huge! congratulations to Ryan, Shawn, Hugh, Marvel studios, and the entire creative team behind Deadpool and Wolverine. Can't think of a more fun and dynamite experience at the theater.
Its safe to say these records aren't getting touched for a while, no? I don't even think Joker 2 is going to graze this
48:17 if you like the backstory flashback scenes in the boys with soldier boy, think of this series as 8 flashback episodes
1:48:26 You know what was the problem with Julian McMahon’s Doctor Doom? He felt too similar to Willem Dafoe’s Norman Osborn.
Fantastic Four came out 3 years after Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man. It is obvious that Fox saw the success of Spider-Man and decided to replicate the tone and feel of that movie. That includes giving Doom the same storyline as Norman Osborn: the CEO that was fired from his own company and wants revenge against the board. I bet that’s what happened.
I rewatched the first F4 movie a couple weeks ago and I noticed they even share the exact same scene. In Spiderman/Fantastic 4, there's a scene where "the board" votes Osborn/Von Doom out of the company and the camera zooms in on said villain.
@@my5head I didn’t notice that. Thanks for the observation. 👍
Wow, Superman's done shooting?!!? Either they're ahead of schedule or shooting doesn't take as long as I thought 😭
Really looking forward to Superman 2025. And also the DCU.
It would be hilarious if in a Avengers film someone takes the f-bomb from Deadpool and he gets pissed off and maybe even punches them.
Overpowering is a Thanos thing which was good for Infinity war. But this is Doom. We're talking about Doom doesn't care about overpowering. Doom is always 10 steps ahead no matter what and when he makes an attack you know., something huge is going to go down. That's what we need. We need a very tactical and strategic Doom that is always going to be out beating the heroes and frustrating them making them feel like no matter what they do he is going to out think them
If they want people to stay during credits then make them funny like Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Never Say Never Again made 160 million.
While not as much as Octopussy’s 182 million, I would hardly say it flopped.
I think it would be funnier if another character gets to use the one f bomb making deadpool made that they gave it to someone else.
James Gun's The Suicide Squad made 168 million total worldwide. On a 185 million budget.
Thanks!
Victor Von Doom purchased Stark Tower
Pepple keep assuming that rdj's dr doom will be a tony stark variant. Which to be fair, he could be. But i just dont see them doing that. I mean was Brolin's cable a variant of thanos? No. Because they were totally separate characters. I hope they make him a non variant. But id be cool with it if he is a variant too.
Seeing doom end kang or spiderman at the stsrt of avengers doomsday wpuld be powerful
What if Doom is shown causing an incursion on his own
Please let Doom make an example out of Giah! Please please please..... Who? Exactly... The most OP person on Earth
1:48:10
What about in another universe doom kills that universes thanos with ease as the avengers watch on in disbelief. Doom sees the failure of the avengers to protect the world from such threats so he believes he is the only one to protect the universe. The power goes to his head and he loves it.
So make Deadpool animated show.
I don’t doubt Jeff Sneider BUT his reporting took a bit of a hit for me cause it appears that he was wrong on Stranger Things 5 both for when it would come out and the titles of the episodes. Both at the moment seem to have been wrong.
I stay for credits 99% . It angers me the credits go away on streams
Well, if we go with proper math, then no movie has made a true Billion. Before everyone gave up and accepted the American definition, the British Billion was a Million Million or what Americans want to call a Trillion.
All the chacters in Superman has me nervous.
They should have doom beating down a Thanos from a different universe
I mean, have you read Secret Wars? If not. You're in for a treat. If you have, then you know.
Deadpool will make 1.65 billion
I don't think Deadpool 3 is good enough to make 1 Billion
Doom should kill rhodie in his debut in front of happy or pepper or happy in front of them.
Already sick of the Doom questions and discussions, just wait for more news to come out
Same, and we have another 2 years of all these Doom discussions...
Is that the actor from The Rookie show in that Superman photo?
Yes
Avengers secret wars iron Man colors doomsday Dr Doom colors I'm guessing here
I like the RDJ casting but only thing is Vanessa Kirby going to be in a love triangle with two grandpas 😵💫 this why I hated the Pedro casting. Age difference is too much and now RDJ is even greater 😂😂
A Doom/Sue romance isn't significant. The Namor attraction was always where the real story was at, and they probably won't be compelled to loop Namor into their orbit off the bat.
@@bajansamurai no it’s not. But God doom basically creates a universe where he gets everything he wanted which is Reeds life like his wife and kids
Cillian murphy we want for Doom
@@richardlogan850 I'm aware, but Sue basically got heart palpations for Namor every year for decades, while Doom's connection read more like he did it because he'd win one over Richards. Granted, they made it a thing in a previous movie, so who knows. These days it's more about his connection to Valeria than anything.
DC is toast unless we see the world's best trailer which gets people hyped! WB's greed watching Marvel has been it's undoing. What we have seen so far gives me little hope that DC bar Batman will continue! & the way Gunn has handled things no wonder he's now labelled Sh*tF**k down the Street!
“They don’t need Dr. Doom in Fantastic Four”
What the fuck are you talking about? Lmao, how else is he gonna get into the MCU? The day before FF starts shooting? Come on John, of course he’s in the movie. You thought we’d be introduced to him in Doomsday?
I love this podcast. But idk if i can keep sticking around. I watch every upload and the repetitive regurgitation of the same information is getting incredibly annoying. Im not talking about the mandatory disclaimers and all that...we hear john say literally the exact thing for about 4-5 episodes in a row. People will change thier history after doomsday comes out, for example. Ive heard that same thing 4× now in 4 different shows. And thats just 1 example. Theres usually about 5 things that week that john continues to repeat and repeat....and repeat. To the point where if im not looking at the screen, i think im listening to same podcast i just watched. I get that u have to answer the same questions over and over. But its just getting too much.
Is the D23 thing an inside joke? Or does he really hate D23? Seems very extreme reaction just for an event.
John made a video 3 years ago about Disney and why he is never going to a Disney event again
The Flash was pretty good...really? It likelable characters ruined by bad special effects and a cliché ending.
Sorry john have to disagree with you in in every level, when you were knocking off names playing variants..yes you have a point there, but your wrong, the actors all played varients of themselves. I wasn't at Comicon but I follow your best friends in Kristian Harloff and Coy saying RDJ isn't a varient from fiegie's mouth..... so this is just stupid and desperate....ppl that casually watch the MCU are going to be like...Isnt that Ironman? It causes confusiion? and desperate pitch to bring fans back....So who's right then? Love to see a debate with the 3 of you guys how your so gun ho knowing all the inside scoop is, They discuss RDJ is not a varient, while you say he is, and it'll be fun with the expectations.....I'm with Harloff and Coy, this is stupid bring back the legend to play antire diff character with that much money. If he's just behind a mask, then why cast RDJ? with a boatload of cash. Hell give Cillian Murphy a kick at the can alot cheaper then RDJ....it's a desperate play why Deadpool was so aswesome just attacking Disney's current lows. Im from Winnipeg Manitoba...don't kill going against you lol
My relatives didn't come here they were stolen and trafficked here.
2nd
1st.
Stop this bull about killing off characters. Haven't we learned about trying to bench characters through death... only trying to solve getting them back to do another storyline.