The Witcher 3: Can Xbox Series S Still Deliver a 'Next-Gen' Experience?

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  • Опубликовано: 18 янв 2025

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  • @KarlRock
    @KarlRock 2 года назад +144

    Series S performance is impressive considering the console price. Love it.

    • @sakarsubedi918
      @sakarsubedi918 2 года назад

      just like your travel vlogs 🙂

    • @Aslatiel4
      @Aslatiel4 Год назад +2

      You commenting here is so random

    • @Adam-zh4hm
      @Adam-zh4hm Год назад

      Yo it's crazy who you bump into 😂

    • @TrembleB4Me
      @TrembleB4Me 9 месяцев назад

      I am about to Comment This!

  • @KingDDDuke
    @KingDDDuke 2 года назад +223

    Bought Witcher 3 for 10 bucks a year ago and waited until now to play it because I wanted the next gen update experience, and it's the only game I've been playing on my xbox series s for the past few days and it's excellent.

    • @MichaelMitreski
      @MichaelMitreski 2 года назад +4

      lol i see you leveled up to video game collector era too haha

    • @accelement3499
      @accelement3499 2 года назад +6

      these dudes are abit out of touch they have to complain about something people dont like hearing good news all the time idk i think the series s looks great also but if you are actually playing the game none of this stuff matters much shadows dont clear this town for the folks to come back to i do and i should get back at it

    • @Kiwiiizzz
      @Kiwiiizzz 2 года назад

      Yes

    • @djapeboss
      @djapeboss 2 года назад +13

      I mean, is there anything else to play on Xbox but 7yr old games? :)

    • @joshchristenson8286
      @joshchristenson8286 2 года назад +19

      @@djapeboss playing through High on Life right now. Laughing my ass off. How’s that one play on PS5?

  • @darthv72
    @darthv72 2 года назад +173

    This gen i have been using performance mode more than quality. Im just not that impressed with RT anything and would rather have 60fps or more.

    • @Aron-iw7pq
      @Aron-iw7pq 2 года назад +13

      This is the only gen where you actually have the choice more often than not lol

    • @r.o.6180
      @r.o.6180 2 года назад +10

      @@Aron-iw7pq wrong... I have been playing my ps4 pro since 2017 annd lots of games had those options (quality and performance) tomb raider, god of war etc etc But before it was all about resolution. To achieve 60fps (or close to it) ps4 pro usually drops resolution to 1080p. Now it's about Ray Tracing and Resolution.

    • @r.o.6180
      @r.o.6180 2 года назад +1

      @@KyleSetFire whatever… I won’t read your text wall. Good luck with your life lol

    • @funtourhawk
      @funtourhawk 2 года назад +5

      Yeah you definitely haven't experienced the glory of RT on PC maxed settings/res

    • @KyleSetFire
      @KyleSetFire 2 года назад

      @@r.o.6180 Tell me you read my comment, without telling me you read my comment.
      Kinda ironic that you call a comment one sentence longer than yours a "text wall" too 🤣
      God damn I hit you where it hurts didn't I? Ooof. Sorry guy. Didn't mean to ruin your day but you did start a comment with "wrong" like some jumped up little fuck when you yourself were wrong 🤣
      Keep your luck. You're gonna need it chief. Clearly.

  • @USA92
    @USA92 2 года назад +49

    Good to see a review for the Series S. As it's the most readily available and is now the most common of next generation xbox users.
    More please.

  • @ScrapKing73
    @ScrapKing73 2 года назад +152

    If it’s a locked 30 fps on Series S almost no matter what you do in quality mode, it seems like there is an opportunity for a 40 fps balanced mode here in a future update!!! Good job CDPR!

    • @foreversolvent5334
      @foreversolvent5334 2 года назад +27

      wow such a next gen experience xD

    • @SaberKingofKnights1
      @SaberKingofKnights1 2 года назад +34

      @@foreversolvent5334 is a that a sorry attempt at sarcasm?

    • @MrEWhiteYT
      @MrEWhiteYT 2 года назад +12

      @@foreversolvent5334 A few PS5 games did the same thing and it worked great.

    • @johnbishop2536
      @johnbishop2536 2 года назад +5

      @@foreversolvent5334 What's really next gen these days, aside from graphics and better movement animations what has really evolved since the 6th gen era.

    • @glowerworm
      @glowerworm 2 года назад +21

      @@foreversolvent5334 for $240, hell yeah, very nice

  • @fabriciofla8019
    @fabriciofla8019 2 года назад +16

    Shame about that input lag, because Quality mode really looks beautiful on Series S. Right now I'll wait for a patch addressing the input latency or just wait to play it on a Series X on performance mode.

  • @mr.penguin4614
    @mr.penguin4614 2 года назад +17

    would love to see cdpr release a mode for series x and ps5 that drop RT, push ultra+ settings and see how it does aiming for 60

  • @ScrapKing73
    @ScrapKing73 2 года назад +69

    Perhaps this will finally put to bed any debate about whether the Series S is more powerful overall than the last-gen “Pro” consoles. Even a last-gen system with an SSD. There’s just no getting past the benefits of the architectural improvements of the Series S. I loved my One X, but the Series S is even better (overall).

    • @gabrieljohnson1854
      @gabrieljohnson1854 2 года назад +11

      Thank you its best for you to say which is better because you had both consoles. I love my Series S but I get so much hate on it one guy told me the Series S couldn't do 60 fps 😂 that it only gets 30 fps in all games now their lying to make the pro consoles look better. Now I just learn that the Series S defends itself

    • @thedude8128
      @thedude8128 2 года назад +11

      This is a remake of a game from 2015...
      It has to run this well if Xbox wants to even call this next Gen 😂 it doesn't run well at all relative to the fact ue4 on one x and pro could run games this well too. Lols
      Xbots just don't see the grift that Xss is.
      You all realize they sold yoh this so you eventually buy a series x and give Xbox more money due to your Xss only handling 30fps in 2 yrs. Lols

    • @Drip7914
      @Drip7914 2 года назад +3

      My 1050 destroys this brokie garbage 😂

    • @ConnorH2111
      @ConnorH2111 2 года назад

      Its a last gen console that favors FPS over resolution.

    • @cristi8183
      @cristi8183 2 года назад +1

      Those who brag about better (obviously more expensive) pc hardware are a special form of stupid indeed.

  • @nigelmartin35
    @nigelmartin35 2 года назад +11

    I wouldn't really knock any marks off for one town square being sluggish in a 100hr RPG. Looks like a great next gen experience 👌

  • @the_velvet_void
    @the_velvet_void 2 года назад +44

    Tom is a CHAMP!

  • @Aaron-ng3ef
    @Aaron-ng3ef 2 года назад +108

    Thank you for the Series S coverage.
    Am I crazy, or does quality mode on the series S appear to be using HairWorks? There's a side-by-side of Geralt riding early in the video and his hair looks completely different.

    • @jesser4221
      @jesser4221 2 года назад +19

      It's the same hair physics on both performance and quality, maybe it just broke for a moment.
      Edit: Yeah hairworks is not just a NVIDIA thing. My bad.

    • @georgebimpas3726
      @georgebimpas3726 2 года назад +13

      I believe the witcher 3 has a bug in which the bouncyness of the hair is dependant on the frame rate. Less fps equals bouncier hair

    • @r.o.6180
      @r.o.6180 2 года назад +8

      @@georgebimpas3726 lol FF XV was the other way around. I remember playing the game at 60fps on PC and characters hair, animal fur and stuff was almost static. The only way to get normal hair and stuff was to cap the game at 30 frames.

    • @Aaron-ng3ef
      @Aaron-ng3ef 2 года назад +1

      @@georgebimpas3726 interesting!

    • @ammanus356
      @ammanus356 2 года назад +5

      @@jesser4221 Completely false, Hairworks isnt entirely locked to Nvidia only cards its just an Nvidia sponsored technology

  • @mitchboland9591
    @mitchboland9591 2 года назад +5

    The quality mode at 40 fps would actually be a solid way to play

  • @kuplayford1203
    @kuplayford1203 2 года назад +41

    I’m really looking forward to a next-gen game that pushes Series S as it deserves! Right now only FH5 really showcases how good can a game look on this console… 🙃

    • @ProgInside83
      @ProgInside83 2 года назад +7

      I hope the first will be Atomic Heart 😊

    • @LiquidSpartan117
      @LiquidSpartan117 2 года назад +14

      Microsoft Flight Simulator ✈️ already showed what it can do.

    • @applehazeva2739
      @applehazeva2739 2 года назад +1

      Watch Dogs Legion anyone?

    • @benXtrans
      @benXtrans Год назад

      @@applehazeva2739 Looks beautiful on XSS.

    • @kaigarcia3163
      @kaigarcia3163 Год назад

      @@ProgInside83atomic heart is just so well done made you can tell the love of the devs doing that game

  • @tabletaccountforyoutube
    @tabletaccountforyoutube 2 года назад +9

    This game has always had massive input latency problems. Even the original PS4 / PC versions, the inherent input latency is just super high. For this reason I found this game to be unplayable at 30 FPS back when I got it for PS4. It's not really fair to say that the input latency is "worse" at 30 or anything, it's a fundamental issue with the game and while the framerate can make the problem "seem" worse it's still a problem with the game itself.

  • @baldsquirrel
    @baldsquirrel 2 года назад +76

    Thank you very much for so many content on Witcher :3

  • @ralphengland8559
    @ralphengland8559 2 года назад +20

    Love my Series S. Love the experience it's brought for all the games I enjoy. Witcher 3 at 60 fps is exactly what I wanted.

  • @axilleus
    @axilleus 2 года назад +43

    Series S delivers amazing graphics for this game!

    • @tonygicz8
      @tonygicz8 2 года назад +7

      Of course it does it's a last gen game.

    • @immavegetasan
      @immavegetasan 2 года назад +7

      @@tonygicz8 ok but it delivers amazing graphics on Microsoft flight simulator. That's not a last gen game

    • @tonygicz8
      @tonygicz8 2 года назад +10

      @@immavegetasan You are right about that. Most Xbox exclusive games look amazing on the Series S.

    • @LiquidSpartan117
      @LiquidSpartan117 2 года назад +2

      @@tonygicz8 this patch is not on last gen. Those consoles can't run the Witcher 3 at these settings

    • @tonygicz8
      @tonygicz8 2 года назад +1

      @@LiquidSpartan117 still a last gen game though

  • @randytyson
    @randytyson 2 года назад +4

    Its crazy that a game can run so well on a console cheaper than the switch and smaller than any console before it.
    The Xbox series S is a remarkable machine

    • @mitchjames9350
      @mitchjames9350 Год назад

      The game can run on the Switch which is less powerful than last and current gen consoles.

  • @falikmanit
    @falikmanit 2 года назад +3

    I know teraflops are not accurate measurement of performance but nvidea is doing 83 tf, while this machine is doing God's work.

  • @TylerWillsie
    @TylerWillsie 2 года назад +3

    I've noticed a pattern where new games that have a 30fps mode feel a lot more sluggish then last gen titles at 30, GTA V for example, the input latency feels way higher on the Series X version on 30fps mode compared to Xbox Ones default 30fps

  • @charaznable8072
    @charaznable8072 2 года назад +5

    Wow an actual 60fps mode? That's pretty impressive.

  • @GuntromanCZ
    @GuntromanCZ 2 года назад +86

    I wanted to play this game again after next gen patch but I will wait a bit after they fix it same way as they did with Cyberpunk. It is worth the wait.

    • @Uknown76
      @Uknown76 2 года назад +51

      Maybe their games should work at launch instead

    • @spenn2007
      @spenn2007 2 года назад +3

      its amazing on PS5 and its free, why wait?

    • @GuntromanCZ
      @GuntromanCZ 2 года назад +5

      @@spenn2007 Because I bought it on Xbox when it came out and recently on PC. But performance is not there on consoles and I want to play with RT on PC. (I also have PS5)

    • @the-suspect
      @the-suspect 2 года назад +8

      @@GuntromanCZ To be honest, you might never be able to play on PC with decent 60 fps with RT enabled without a 4080 or 4090. Even if they release hotfixes for it because it's just taxing on the hardware plus it's not a true DX12 game means it 'might' never be optimised for RT..I am playing on PC (2080) without RT, Ultra+ 1080p. It still looks gorgeous though..

    • @TaIIer
      @TaIIer 2 года назад +13

      Maybe they should stop making games and just write books instead

  • @brianjohnson9890
    @brianjohnson9890 2 года назад +5

    I have every new console but think it’s funny that Xbox talked about teraflops like it was the end all be all and then comes out with a 4 teraflop machine and said “everything’s fine”

    • @gabrieljohnson1854
      @gabrieljohnson1854 2 года назад +2

      But as you see the 4 teraflops is killing the pro consoles

    • @sammyg4806
      @sammyg4806 2 года назад +1

      @@gabrieljohnson1854And lagging way behind the 10 TFLOP PS5 and 12 TFLOP XSX.

    • @gregoriolorenzo8771
      @gregoriolorenzo8771 2 года назад +2

      @@sammyg4806 Which are double the price... XSS is in a totally different market position when compared to XSX and PS5.

    • @gregoriolorenzo8771
      @gregoriolorenzo8771 2 года назад +1

      And it is fine, because it is priced and marketed accordingly. It was not fine back when they released the Xbox One, which was technically weaker and more expensive than the competition.

    • @braedonlock3359
      @braedonlock3359 2 года назад

      @@sammyg4806wait 4 tflops isn’t competitive with 12 what??? Congratulations you’ve been awarded with the dumbest comment of the day.

  • @jesser4221
    @jesser4221 2 года назад +48

    I still don't understand why an native 4k or close to 4k like 1800p at 30fps without RT is not an option on this game for PS5 and Series X.
    The same thing I can say about Cyberpunk 2077 on current gen.

    • @JFLTX
      @JFLTX 2 года назад +2

      There's like 3-4 games where I'm like, yeah, ray tracing is there, other than that it's been a big flop for the consoles.

    • @mrartezi69
      @mrartezi69 2 года назад +7

      I'd like a 4k 40fps mode without RT

    • @StrengthScholar0
      @StrengthScholar0 2 года назад +6

      Yeah that's probably because you don't understand game programming or hardware requirements.
      There are plenty of gaming PCs far more powerful than the current gen consoles that can't run 4K at a locked 30 FPS in modern games. Especially without FSR 2.0 or DLSS. There is some chance you could get that kind of resolution once FSR 2.0 gets a better hold in the console market though.

    • @WeAreLegion-
      @WeAreLegion- 2 года назад +5

      The ps5 doesn't support any game at a native resolution, it uses adaptive quality as a matter of fact all consoles do this. Don't believe anyone when the say "native"

    • @WeAreLegion-
      @WeAreLegion- 2 года назад +3

      @@StrengthScholar0 no one plays 30 fps on pc and why have such an ass pc connected to a 4k tv/monitor? That sounds like a gtx1080ti lmao

  • @TheFantomsLair
    @TheFantomsLair 2 года назад +13

    People saying the Series S is not a current gen machine are straight up degens...the CPU is a gamechanger, it can run everything the Series X and PS5 can with resolution and graphics settings compromises. Devs who can't optimize for Series S should maybe educate themselves more for all the money they're earning. I'm a PC gamer so I don't generally care about consoles, but people acting like Series S holds back this gen somehow must seriusly touch grass.

    • @braedonlock3359
      @braedonlock3359 2 года назад +3

      Comparing it to ps5 and series x is where you lose sense.(not just you anyone who does) it’s 1/3rd of the power as series x.
      It’s 150-180$ used, seen sales for 229$. It’s made to do its own thing, budget,casual gamers, not only for that but it’s perfect for kids/people on a budget. But it’s perfect for even very heavy gamers.
      People just have to stop putting up a 4tflop console vs a 12. For 170$ used you can’t beat the performance for money series s is amazing. But when compared to the full power system it doesn’t really make sense. It’s not made to compare.

    • @DaBubby_
      @DaBubby_ 5 месяцев назад

      @@braedonlock3359 You will literally be able to play GTA Vl on it that’s enough to make it worth it

    • @braedonlock3359
      @braedonlock3359 5 месяцев назад

      @@DaBubby_ Right did you read my comment?? I own one nobody is arguing worth. Just that it shouldn't be compared to the x and ps5.

    • @DaBubby_
      @DaBubby_ 5 месяцев назад

      @@braedonlock3359 i agree with you im just saying my point

  • @MrMCG
    @MrMCG 2 года назад +9

    I had this game on my PS4 and have not played it since 2016. Got the Series S a tad before Halloween this year, got it for $10 & waited for the upgrade to drop and started all over. I am playing on Performance mode, and I am loving it. Do I wish I had/could afford the Series X? Yes. But this keeps me happy. This little machine is a solid choice for someone like me, who didn't play games for several years until Cyberpunk2077 came out. Ran that on Stadia. It was great. Stadia died. So the S took its place, and this game has been taking up my free time. I am thoroughly enjoying it.

  • @muhammadruhaan6495
    @muhammadruhaan6495 2 года назад +5

    One more issue I faced - Textures not loading on some NPC's especially in Novigrad in dialogue only. In gameplay every texture loads correctly.

    • @michaellittle7599
      @michaellittle7599 2 года назад

      Thought it was funny when Happen's pants didn't load in correctly. Looked like he was wearing pure silk

    • @TokinMusket
      @TokinMusket 2 года назад

      I get this too but pretty much everywhere in the game. Wait till you see a Skelliger’s horned helmet without textures, it’s like it’s made out of foam. Pretty major issue that I get almost 100% of the time with minor NPCs.

  • @TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99
    @TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99 2 года назад +4

    So a decent version with expected cutbacks on a 300 dollar machine? I wouldn’t be expecting a lot of games to be doing ray-tracing, it’s a miracle you can buy a console capable of that at all for its price even two years on.
    I agree on the SSR update being absent is a shame, hopefully they can get added it eventually. CD Projekt Red have always supported this game beyond and above and I suspect this will be no different. I think the performance and input latency will be fixed at some point.

    • @braedonlock3359
      @braedonlock3359 2 года назад

      229$ at costco, 150-180$ used. Amazing price for performance nothing is beating it.

    • @TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99
      @TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99 2 года назад

      @@braedonlock3359 Yep, I get the feeling it’s gonna stay that way for a while to come too.

    • @hfjtrytry9216
      @hfjtrytry9216 2 года назад

      it IS a console, they are designed to be cheap to buy and more expensive long term. They make the money back with subscriptions. As with most thing tech wise the more you pay the better the product. People dont buy consoles for the best exp they buy it as they are cheap.

  • @leogonzalez6287
    @leogonzalez6287 2 года назад +13

    Already waiting for the PC settings guide

    • @kleberantunes3232
      @kleberantunes3232 2 года назад

      use grass and foliage at medium, you can force the rest, u kept hairworks 2 AA high but im really think about removing

    • @mbsfaridi
      @mbsfaridi 2 года назад

      DF already did the PC video.

  • @fla3056
    @fla3056 2 года назад +11

    I was dispoined not to see a Series S chapter on the yesterday video, very cool to see a dedicaced video for the small console. AThe 2 modes seem good, I like RT AO and GI, but on the Series S, it's the first thing to remove.

  • @andreylucass
    @andreylucass 2 года назад +3

    Just finished the game on SS (before any patches). Its performance on 60fps is 6-7/10 so far.

  • @bobbydazzle4113
    @bobbydazzle4113 2 года назад +5

    Series S £185 UK.. Absolutely awesome 👍

  • @bose5160
    @bose5160 2 года назад +3

    Why the fuck are we still using the term “next-gen”? These console have been out for over two years now. Are we not squarely within their generation at this point? OR is this just a sales tactic that has overstayed its welcome? Remember the old Microsoft claims from mid-2020 that we would see 4k performance at 60fps or even 120fps? Yet two years later we get to choose if we want 1440p@30fps or 1080p@60fps…When is the next-next-gen actually going to start?

  • @Wake-Up-Everyone
    @Wake-Up-Everyone 2 года назад +30

    What a beautiful game in all ways 😍 👏 thanks for the update 😀

  • @kirankara
    @kirankara 2 года назад +2

    I've given up thinking of RT modes as a next gen console feature in reality

  • @frankiebeans8055
    @frankiebeans8055 2 года назад +31

    It played really good on Xbox series x backwards Capability Had almost little frame rate problems at 60. The only thing that it had problems with was some minor bugs and glitches. Now it’s frame rate is all over the place playing at 60. I think because they added more npc’s at villages and more foliage and grass that tanks frame rate. Should of let it alone because it was almost a native 4K experience

    • @auditore8895
      @auditore8895 2 года назад +4

      Yes in my series s frame usually stays near 60.. but in places like vehen marshes, or during evening time gameplay frame rate constantly changes between 52 -60..sometime goes as low as 49 fps .

    • @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
      @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe 2 года назад +3

      @@auditore8895 i am on a vrr monitor and i did not even notice the frame drops that digital foundry pointed out.

    • @USA92
      @USA92 2 года назад +5

      Absolutely! This forcing us to update the entire game just to find it doesn't work as well as it did before. Pathetic and seems like a Cyberpunk kinda insult to lovers of the game.

    • @123doomdoom
      @123doomdoom 2 года назад

      This dude is either blind or lying through his teeth. I just saw first battle of the gane in the performance mode with FPS counter on one X and the frame rate was hitting low 50s.

    • @ajsingh4545
      @ajsingh4545 2 года назад +2

      Bro quit lying, I just saw the frame rate test for One X version in performance and it was hitting low 50s in just the first battle of the game.

  • @Theperfectfuture9000
    @Theperfectfuture9000 2 года назад +1

    I downloaded the Witcher 3 before the update thinking I downloaded the upgrade. I was confused thinking nothing changed. Downloaded the PS4 version by mistake 😵 lol. When I downloaded the PS5 upgrade I was blown away.

  • @gizmoMKD
    @gizmoMKD 2 года назад +3

    whatever you guys are saying, series S is the most loved console :) its cheap and delivers good graphics which is what we are looking for (gamers on tv).... who don't care for 4k pixel perfect quality :) sitting on Cauch from 3m distance i can't spot a bad quality :)

  • @therealfodder
    @therealfodder 2 года назад +7

    I think it's astonishing that a game like this runs as well as it does on a £210 console (£190 a few days ago!). Performance mode all the way for me though - I already put up with 'Geralt on ice' on the PS4.

    • @braedonlock3359
      @braedonlock3359 2 года назад +2

      120 FPS on the last 3 call of duties. 120 on doom Eternal, beautiful 1080p 60 on Forza horizon, runs Microsoft flight sim is amazing. I see them for 150$ used it’s great.

  • @nichamahamek3590
    @nichamahamek3590 2 года назад +6

    Great port for the Series S

  • @SaigonBrit
    @SaigonBrit 2 года назад +2

    Tom is my favourite of all the DF crew.

  • @Hashama
    @Hashama 2 года назад +13

    Thank you for making a dedicated video for this amazing platform. Series S is the most impressive next gen machine in my opinion, providing the best dollar to performance ratio. I am sometimes surprised to see the results MS have been able to achieve with such compact form factor and almost non existent fan noise. Now only if it also receives some top quality single player games like PS.

    • @ProgInside83
      @ProgInside83 2 года назад +1

      Hellblade 2 is the answer!!

    • @Hashama
      @Hashama 2 года назад

      @@ProgInside83 That's one game.. but yes let's be thankful.

    • @possiblyunmatched1323
      @possiblyunmatched1323 2 года назад +3

      not even close. ps5 digital is the best for value

    • @davidwooten7212
      @davidwooten7212 2 года назад +2

      @@possiblyunmatched1323 How? It costs nearly twice as much, when you can find the S for near $200 US, and at times doesn't deliver any more fps, just some enhanced visuals. For my money, I'll deep six RT every day for a good game with 60fps.
      That being said I wanted a PS5, yet still can' find one locally and now they are $450 US. For value, the Series S is still at the top, IMO of course.

  • @MightyGazelle1
    @MightyGazelle1 2 года назад +2

    Beautiful little console does it again

  • @MarksL-7
    @MarksL-7 2 года назад +14

    I like this guy, he never really trashes the series s he even praises it.

    • @electrikoptik
      @electrikoptik 2 года назад +1

      Are you new here? Richard is notoriously very biased towards all Xboxes.

    • @MarksL-7
      @MarksL-7 2 года назад +2

      @@electrikoptik im indeed new here, stranger

    • @alfiehicks1
      @alfiehicks1 2 года назад +4

      @@MarksL-7 And they must be, too, because this video is by Tom, not Richard.

    • @EarthIsFlat456
      @EarthIsFlat456 2 года назад

      @@electrikoptik Richard?? LOL

  • @giedmich
    @giedmich 2 года назад

    3:00 if i recall correctly the game Control had even worse input lag. But still in general we lost something on the way to modern day. Next-next gen consoles, RT, Big TVs etc. but on the other hand we have these horrible almost 200 ms input latencies in games. This is mind boggling.

  • @Johnathan1988
    @Johnathan1988 2 года назад +4

    If RT is of value to you I respect that and I do get it's graphical benefits but I feel that RT is really over hyped for what it brings to the table on consoles. RT is much better on (and more of a focus) on PC in my mind and I think it's reasonable to infer that the large majority of players don't notice these differences in general unless they are looking for it. I think high performance options should be of a greater focus for devs in this generation of gaming. 60 and 120 modes should be the focused standards IMO. Heck I think most of us would settle for a 40fps option given the next gen graphical intensely we are starting to see creep up. As far as Series S goes I'd be happy with it being a 1080p 60 next gen gaming machine.

    • @braedonlock3359
      @braedonlock3359 2 года назад

      @@MysticCodermetro exodus 60 FPS RT, Doom Eternal 1800p 60 FPS with RT,Miles morales 60 fps with ray tracing, rift apart 60 fps RT. It’s obviously just down to optimization not a “gimmick” 12tflops can definitely push ray tracing, devs have just been lazy at developing.
      Even if it’s only 30 Fps ray tracing takes so much power. It’s amazing 500$ boxes are capable of doing it to begin with.

    • @DudeRX
      @DudeRX 2 года назад +2

      I play on both pc and ps5. On pc I always leave RT off no matter what, I’d rather take 120-175fps at maxed settings over 50-70fps with RT. I have a 3080 so I can run it just fine. Same with ps5, I always choose the more fps mode options. I honestly find RT reflections pointless and don’t really see the appeal in most cases. RTXGI however does actually make a good difference tho, metro exodus does a fantastic job with that.

  • @anthonyrizzo9043
    @anthonyrizzo9043 2 года назад +1

    I noticed in the beginning when he said devs have to strip out key features from series s like ray tracing. They should strip it out of the more powerful consoles either because it barely works right, sub 30 fps is pretty unplayable when you could be at 60. Someone here is gonna come up with an example that works and before you do, I know there's a couple out there so don't bother. Fact is most games shouldn't even bother with ray tracing if they can't keep the fps up.

  • @stewardappiagyei6982
    @stewardappiagyei6982 2 года назад +10

    Arent the RT modes on Series X and PS5 dropping to 24fps anyway? Considering Series S keeps all the other upgrades, and even has higher foliage settings than Series X in quality mode (bug or not), but still manages to maintain a locked 1440p 30fps, I see that as a win for the tiny beast.

  • @NiCO-jo2vh
    @NiCO-jo2vh 2 года назад +2

    I disagree that raytracing is a key feature. It kills the framerate for little gain.
    60 FPS is a key feature though

  • @ryanschindler923
    @ryanschindler923 2 года назад +6

    Boy, lots of shitty comments in here. For a cheap $250 console, it's doing pretty damn good.

    • @huppupappa1637
      @huppupappa1637 2 года назад

      Yeah if you have decent tv /monitor already, 250 is cheap as hell to get start gaming.

    • @ryanschindler923
      @ryanschindler923 2 года назад

      @@huppupappa1637 Why do you say that? For the VRR thing?

    • @huppupappa1637
      @huppupappa1637 2 года назад

      @@ryanschindler923 what

    • @huppupappa1637
      @huppupappa1637 2 года назад +1

      @@ryanschindler923 What i mean was that Series S is bang for a buck

    • @ryanschindler923
      @ryanschindler923 2 года назад

      @@huppupappa1637 oh yeah, it's a great value for sure.

  • @metachuko
    @metachuko 2 года назад

    Those birds at 2:34 look a bit off in the Quality Mode shot

  • @stingus
    @stingus 2 года назад +13

    Thank you for the video! Love how it turned out on Series S. It looks completely playable in both modes. I'd go for 60 for sure.

  • @riusaki
    @riusaki 2 года назад +1

    The Complete Edition is NOT the name of Next Gen version. The Complete Edition has been available for several years and is the version of the game that includes all DLC's and paid Expansions.

  • @eliotness4733
    @eliotness4733 2 года назад +8

    i tried witcher 3 with rtx in on series x, it’s really choppy l, 60 fps only for me

  • @sirchicken2940
    @sirchicken2940 2 года назад +1

    Noticed a quite few crashes as well on Series S

  • @gamerzone12673
    @gamerzone12673 2 года назад +3

    Glad you finally talk about The Xbox series S 😁

  • @astrea555
    @astrea555 2 года назад

    Happy new years tom! and everyone else

  • @50H3i1
    @50H3i1 2 года назад +3

    VRR 40Hz mode would be optimal for series S

  • @Tekel-Upharsin
    @Tekel-Upharsin 2 года назад

    Why is HBAO missing for the updated PC version for those of us still on 10 series cards that don't have RT?

  • @hyperteknoman6602
    @hyperteknoman6602 2 года назад +20

    xbox series s could easily be a portable console at 1080p/900p, its components are so easy to trim for this

    • @matthewrobbins663
      @matthewrobbins663 2 года назад +1

      I would imagine within a year they could miniaturize it to a handheld. Look at other console revisions size changes.
      The S starts off already very small. Look at the PS2 models. Started at series S size and shrunk to 2 cd cases thick.

    • @RayCharlizard
      @RayCharlizard 2 года назад +27

      The problem with this is power draw and heat dissipation, Series S draws upwards of 75 watts during gameplay. By comparison, a Steam Deck draws 15 watts and its battery can keep it running for hours, but for high performance content, as little as 90 minutes.

    • @sirmi9868
      @sirmi9868 2 года назад

      Have you already did it?
      No?
      STFU

    • @mrartezi69
      @mrartezi69 2 года назад +3

      We don't have batteries powerful enough for this yet

    • @griffgames9538
      @griffgames9538 2 года назад +1

      Too many watts.

  • @KosOrSomeSayKosmo
    @KosOrSomeSayKosmo 2 года назад

    Thanks for another great video Tom!

  • @jmenarul1
    @jmenarul1 2 года назад +8

    I personally think that XBOX Series S is so good for the money! You can play next-gen games on 1080p or 1440 p with 30 or 60 fps, and somethimes we have games with RT. For a casual gamer like me is a perfect console! I will upgrade when xbox series x elite will come out, or get a ps5 pro!

  • @coinsagE46m3
    @coinsagE46m3 2 года назад +2

    You'd think CDPR would have learned their lesson with Cyberpunk. But nope, here they are again releasing things before they're ready. I know all pubs do this, but damn Cyberpunk was a colossal fuck up.

  • @UCLAKoolman
    @UCLAKoolman 2 года назад +25

    Really enjoying this next gen update!! Playing on PS5 (performance) and Steam Deck. So cool that the cloud saves work between these now

  • @vfmb5179
    @vfmb5179 2 года назад +2

    The latency on 30fps mode is awful, really unplayable. I’m playing the 60fps mode, on a vrr tv, my only complaint is the draw distance for foliage, otherwise it feels great.

  • @RightWingRadioShow
    @RightWingRadioShow 2 года назад +3

    This is sad. 60fps mode is last gen tier. Really sad

  • @azk9218
    @azk9218 Год назад

    It is not only draw distance of foliage. Quality of foliage itself, including complexity and density, also differ.

  • @axa993
    @axa993 2 года назад +4

    This console is $300. Remember that. Controller included.

  • @Judie-Nator
    @Judie-Nator 2 года назад +1

    How demanding is the new Screen space reflections? I'd imagine they could work on series s.

  • @oneeyeonmidgard6801
    @oneeyeonmidgard6801 2 года назад +10

    I own a high end PC and Series X. To be honest, the Series S is the machine of the generation. The value is ridiculous and of i had to do it over again, i would just pick up a Series S and leave it at that.

    • @repodog6191
      @repodog6191 2 года назад +1

      I own a 10900k & 3080 and ps5 I would say I see no value in the s at all but we all have opinion's !

    • @gabrieljohnson1854
      @gabrieljohnson1854 2 года назад

      @@repodog6191 thats because you've never played it and you have no proper feedback backing up your claim other than "no value" wow great feedback no value wow so 120 fps is no value having the same architecture as the Series X is no value fps boost and upscale 4k for almost all backwards compatible games is no value??

    • @repodog6191
      @repodog6191 2 года назад

      @@gabrieljohnson1854 Speak for yourself child I have played one many times ! And still see no value in it and it is a( opinion) as I said ! And this will be my last response to your childish shit !

    • @davidwooten7212
      @davidwooten7212 2 года назад

      @@repodog6191 Says the adult calling some else a child, and then seemingly having vocabulary so limited they have to resort to vulgar language. The irony is impressive, great showing!

  • @dctrbrass
    @dctrbrass 2 года назад

    This is defo been one of my favorite updates in the last couple years. Really nice one to a great game. Despite having a series X, I decided to play it again on PC since I bought it years ago. I was surprised at how well Ultra+ runs w/ ray tracing. I have a 3060 laptop and it runs great in 1080p. I thought it would suck but was pleasantly surprised.

  • @phos4usredeemer
    @phos4usredeemer 2 года назад +17

    I’ve been playing it on a series s on a non-oled 70 inch LG TV and it looks stellar. Performance mode, of course

    • @JKSmith-qs2ii
      @JKSmith-qs2ii 2 года назад +9

      Interesting I have never seen someone refer to their TV as non-OLED. Most of the time people only mention when it is an OLED.

    • @ClaudioAguileraMunoz
      @ClaudioAguileraMunoz 2 года назад +1

      It will look amazing till you try the game in next gen console (pa5 or Xbox series x)… then you cannot unsee the difference in resolution 😅

    • @gabrieljohnson1854
      @gabrieljohnson1854 2 года назад +2

      @@ClaudioAguileraMunoz Series S is A next gen console 😒😒🤦‍♂️ if you can game at 120 fps at 1440p that's next gen 👌 the Series S outperformed the one X and the ps4 pro no contest digital foundry put that to bed have a nice day 😀 👍

    • @andrewsqual
      @andrewsqual 2 года назад +1

      @@gabrieljohnson1854 Keep telling yourself that when cross gen game after cross gen game on series s the past 2 years have ray tracing, details and resolution and frame rate cuts galore.
      And if you don't agree then...... prove it otherwise with footage or even a screenshot of just about any of the major series s/x only games Xbox announced in 2020. Where are they? What's the problem? Digital Foundry have no footage to work with here....... does that 533p series s footage from the Matrix demo count (that The Coalition had to step in and help with too), of course not, that would go against your case.
      Oh right, Phil is terrified of another Halo Infinite situation reveal where a weaker console underwhelms the entire games industry of any hype, dragging down hopes from 100% to 5%. That's why there is no footage.

    • @dannyh.2861
      @dannyh.2861 2 года назад +1

      Series S owners got hoodwinked. The system will only continue to look worse and worse moving forward as devs build more ambitious games. It was false advertising by Microsoft, and won't come close to the claims they made about the system. The Series X has underperformed also, which is pathetic.

  • @frankynakamoto2308
    @frankynakamoto2308 2 года назад +1

    Again they should activate checkerboard mode automatically when frames drop under 58fps, or 29fps, dynamic 25% checkerboard render, they should add mesh shaders & intelligent foliage rendering, example
    A similar to nanite software for ground geometry texture rendering, so it focus the loading of assets straight ahead where the camera is watching, & slowing the camera 5% to allow it to be render and reduce texture pop-up, the geometry not visible can be reduced in texture and in resolution down to 420p while the visible texture what the player is seen can be prioritize as highest, ray tracing only in segmentated reflected areas detected by the AI geometry.
    Also there is no getting WET when swimming.

  • @fdurdenc
    @fdurdenc 2 года назад +4

    Great video as usual! Now this is going to sound strange, but could you do a tech review of the latest Crew 2 60 fps performance patch? The original 60fps patch released in July was so bad everything was blurry. Since then it has been fixed and the game is now playable. Curious what you guys will find!
    Thanks and keep the good videos coming!

  • @steel5897
    @steel5897 2 года назад +1

    So, half your framerate for a bit of a sharper image.
    Terrible tradeoff. At least on the RT modes you get a transformative upgrade with the lighting. Definitely Performance is the way to go on S.

  • @stprinz
    @stprinz 2 года назад +3

    I hope they seperate Quality mode and RT mode in a future update, I would also appreciate a RT mode on XBox Series S even if it will run at 720-900p native most of the time. Will still look great on FHD displays with FSR2.

    • @THEchakkid
      @THEchakkid 2 года назад +5

      Yeah, this. People seem to forget that Xbox Series S IS capable of ray-tracing. Not powerful RT, but it is capable (see the Metro games). Developers seem to not want to have the trouble of developing a low-tier RT for their games on Series S.

  • @ApotheosisDivine69
    @ApotheosisDivine69 2 года назад +10

    Great review from Tom! He's the best reviewer from the D.F. team, in my opinion.

    • @jaimemrls29
      @jaimemrls29 2 года назад

      Yea I really appreciate his console performance reviews

  • @SKDREDKY
    @SKDREDKY 2 года назад +1

    Just lost most of my new saves on updated version.(XSS bug)
    I returned to complete blood and wine dlc after a big brake. Through the time game was freezing more and more during the auto saves. (From a second to full 5 and beyond). During final quest of dlc occured an error saying my local saving storage full. I thought last save was 10 minutes ago, so I was ready to replay a little bit. I went to settings and cleared all the local data on console and guess what?
    Somehow the updated Witcher was not sending my local data to cloud 5 DAYS IN A ROW! I lost full 5 days of my progress (about 50 hours) and jumped back into the beginning of dlc. I'm very done with this game. Hope they will fix the problem
    Be careful guys

  • @dunggg
    @dunggg 2 года назад +6

    Why the Series S have farther draw distance is a weird choice.

    • @RovixGR
      @RovixGR 2 года назад +4

      Probably just a bug

  • @DeadZoneGaming
    @DeadZoneGaming 2 года назад

    Yo, how did you get the colors in your game to look so good? That shit is crisp, it pops!

  • @NotoriousRawDogger
    @NotoriousRawDogger 2 года назад +4

    This tiny little shoebox is impressive

  • @ajemad729
    @ajemad729 2 года назад +1

    How does high on life run?

  • @UttRConcrete
    @UttRConcrete 2 года назад +9

    MS should add a disc drive attachment for the Series S.

    • @frankiesab777
      @frankiesab777 2 года назад +3

      Why? The game would need to be installed anyway.

    • @southsidetherealest2860
      @southsidetherealest2860 2 года назад

      You can attach a drive to it

    • @itwsntme
      @itwsntme 2 года назад +2

      @@frankiesab777 Some of use like to own our games you know.

    • @HalfpennyTerwilliger
      @HalfpennyTerwilliger 2 года назад +3

      @@frankiesab777 Physical games can be borrowed and can be found on sale often cheaper than digital games. Also, a minor use case but still a real one, some games that are part of Xbox's backward compatibility program are delisted digitaly. Games like Batman Arkham Origins , FEAR 1 and 2, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 and 2, older sports games like Forza Motorsport up to 7 and Forza Horizon up to 3, for exemple can only be played on modern consoles if you have the disk (or bought it digitally back then).

    • @ThePathLessTraveledIN
      @ThePathLessTraveledIN 2 года назад +1

      Just buy a Xbox series x

  • @FireStormHR
    @FireStormHR 2 года назад +1

    I would have liked an ultra-stable mode for series X, 60 fps 1440p. Might as well call it energy saving mode xd

  • @backtoklondike
    @backtoklondike 2 года назад +6

    I kind of wish CDPR allowed to console users to tweak FSR modes like on PC in both this and in CP2077. So series S on default is 1440p but a console user could put it down to balanced or performance and then they could maybe include raytracing like that. And the bigger brother could get raytracing 60fps mode or 120fps non-raytracing with that.

  • @Philxtreme
    @Philxtreme 2 года назад +2

    Can we really still call it 'Next-Gen'? These consoles have been the current gen for like two years now

  • @propain11
    @propain11 2 года назад +5

    Love my series s 😊

  • @JFLTX
    @JFLTX 2 года назад +5

    Did anybody else feel like the jump from one x to series x just wasn't big enough, in terms of overall visual and performance impact? There's studios that properly optimize their games to take advantage of the hardware like TC and Doom Eternal developers (both "last gen") but this generation is so underwhelming for xbox.

    • @branpod
      @branpod 2 года назад +5

      Still feel like devs have a long way to go before fully utilizing the hardware. We have yet to see a game that looks better than TLOU2 running on a base PS4

    • @LuizFernando-li1du
      @LuizFernando-li1du 2 года назад

      Many games are still cross-gen titles, and due to COVID maybe the games that were targeting next-gen consoles only got their development slowed down. I feel like this gen hasn't reached its full potential just yet, I believe Unreal Engine 5 can be a game changer in the future.

    • @gabrieljohnson1854
      @gabrieljohnson1854 2 года назад

      @@branpod resident evil village ray tracing mode is better on Series X and Series S but thats the only game I could find. Remember how xbox one looked compared to xbox 360 when it first came out devs just need time to study the new hardware

    • @JFLTX
      @JFLTX 2 года назад +1

      Forgot to mention Forza devs but I find racing games boring af lol

    • @UncannySwan
      @UncannySwan 2 года назад

      @@branpod What lol

  • @tom_123
    @tom_123 2 года назад +1

    I don’t know why, but I especially enjoy DF videos at Christmas time :)

  • @guipierre3741
    @guipierre3741 2 года назад +3

    I own both series S and X and... for now I prefer playing this game on my series S in quality mode. This is, for now, the most stable version of the game.

    • @odin5188
      @odin5188 2 года назад +1

      Why would you buy both consoles?

    • @guipierre3741
      @guipierre3741 2 года назад +1

      @@odin5188 Because the power consumption of the series S is really good (electricity cost in Europe is going crazy). And because sometimes I want to play the "ultimate" version of a game (Elden Ring, AC Valhalla, etc). Something wrong with that ?

    • @odin5188
      @odin5188 2 года назад

      @@guipierre3741 Seems very strange to me is all.
      I've been out of the console game a while now i only have a Switch and a PC (granted i might be a casual gamer now). Have consoles got that power hungry? I live in the UK so i know how crazy it's gotten. I see it more with petrol

  • @gureguru4694
    @gureguru4694 2 года назад +2

    no matter what the architecture it is. 4TF is 4TF. no way around it. thats just RX580-ish vs 5700 XT/6600 XT/2070S of the PS5.

    • @LiquidSpartan117
      @LiquidSpartan117 2 года назад

      That's like saying the 128 bits of Dreamcast is the same thing as 128 bits today. You are tech illiterate

  • @dutchguy1807
    @dutchguy1807 2 года назад +8

    I am definitely happy with this update as a Series S player. 60 fps at a decent resolution was all i needed and now it delivers this with improved visuals. Especially since we only had the One S version before this.

  • @TheCgOrion
    @TheCgOrion 2 года назад +1

    Frame rate and resolution should always take priority over RT. At least for now. 30 fps should be a last resort for the current gen, and by far says last gen more than omitting RT.

  • @lawyerlawyer1215
    @lawyerlawyer1215 2 года назад +8

    My rtx 4090 with a ryzen 5800x3d can’t deliver a good experience with out dlss3
    Dlss3 is a life saver
    But I shouldn’t need it

    • @samgoff5289
      @samgoff5289 2 года назад

      DLSS 3 is kinda garbage imo DLSS 2 is much better

    • @lawyerlawyer1215
      @lawyerlawyer1215 2 года назад

      @@samgoff5289 DlSS 2 is not doing anything because the game is cpu bottlenecked.
      Same fps at dlss quality that at DlSS ultra performance.
      It’s not garbage at all , no visual problems at all , but double the fps.
      It’s the only reason I’m playing it .
      I refuse to play it at 48 fps

    • @seizonsha
      @seizonsha 2 года назад

      The new thing is you need a 4000 series GPU for RT dlss 3..I highly doubt but it might just be so.🤣

    • @lawyerlawyer1215
      @lawyerlawyer1215 2 года назад

      @@seizonsha what?

    • @sugonmaballs
      @sugonmaballs 2 года назад +1

      Play it on the Switch for a much better experience over a 4090. 😜

  • @DEMediaDrive
    @DEMediaDrive 2 года назад +1

    I'm going from Series S to Xbox Series X Elite and/or PS5 Pro in 2023. Skipping Series X and PS5 altogether. Happy with Series S for now.

  • @cheochessman2922
    @cheochessman2922 2 года назад +4

    Another solid win for XBOX💚

  • @TheVentour79
    @TheVentour79 2 года назад +2

    Bought a series S for a 1080p display that i have on my bedroom. Use the series X for 4k panel. But i can't understand why they implemented 1440p res if the game could benefit from more at 1080p. Could it be possible some type of RT at 1080p 30? Maybe it would make some sense, has i doubt people buy series s if they have a good 4k TV.

  • @nicholasotto2882
    @nicholasotto2882 2 года назад +4

    I don't care what people say, 4 teraflops is still a lot more than the 1.2 teraflops on Xbox one.

    • @davidwooten7212
      @davidwooten7212 2 года назад +1

      Absolutely, and the 4 teraflops of the Series S are a totally different architecture, so are more efficient. This is why comparing TFlop ratings amongst different architectures is a fool's errand. I still contend that the Series S is nearly has powerful as the One X on the GPU side, despite having half the CU count. Of course, since 4K was not in the cards for Series S, the memory bandwidth is not nearly as high as One X.

  • @demo2952
    @demo2952 Год назад +1

    4th play through on death march

  • @Mr-Orange-X
    @Mr-Orange-X 2 года назад +4

    I always thought the Series S represented a cheap entry point into current gen gaming since not all games will be on last gen systems. But DF of course says it’s for RT.